This video looks at the tragic death of Ray Chapman in 1920 and the consequences of the event for Major League Baseball.
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I met Carl Mays and his second wife, Esther, in 1964 at their ranch near Dayville Oregon. My brother and I played catched with a ball that he had just signed for us. In doing so, we roughed up the leather and his signature. Upon Carl seeing us doing this, he laughed and joined in for a three way game of catch. The next day Carl signed an other ball for each of us with the promise we'd never play catch with them. I still have those two baseballs to this day. I remember Carl telling us story of his life but rarely about his baseball career. Esther enjoyed telling stories of inspiration that left a positive impact on my life to this day. I enjoyed their company immensely.
@TheZincroofer Жыл бұрын
Any interest in selling one of those? He was a distant relative and it would be a really cool gift for my dad, who talks about Carl a ton. I met Bobby Doer in Junction City, I beleive, and he told us stories of him and Carl when they'd hunt in John Day. If you have no interest to sell them, I'd really appreciate at least a picture if possible!!
@coryfoster6004 Жыл бұрын
@@coryfoster6004 I'm not sure I'm ready to sell one of Carl's baseballs. Had a coworker offer me $1,600 back in the early 90's and I decided pretty quickly not to. I can take a picture but not sure if you really want to give me your email address? Carl was a big time hunter, no matter if it was open season or not. He hunt a lot on my grandmother's ranch, Cant/Mascall ranch. Beautiful country in the middle of nowhere.
@TheZincroofer Жыл бұрын
I love these kinda things, especially growing up in Oregon, also a baseball fan, and a believer. Thank you for sharing!
@nathanielriesterer9103Ай бұрын
Yea and I'm the president of the United States of America.
@HeatherRadcliffe-pb1vjАй бұрын
@@HeatherRadcliffe-pb1vj- Congratulations Mr. Biden. Get back to work
@tiberiussempronious6252Ай бұрын
I read about this incident in the Babe Ruth biography titled the Big Bam. Carl Mays was the son of a Methodist minister he didn’t smoke drink or chase women into the night. That made him an outsider in baseball culture which is why a lot of players including his teammates didn’t like him and he didn’t like them either. He was a hard case no nonsense pitcher who demanded that hitters stay off the plate. The incident happened during Ray Chapman‘s third at bat of the game. In Chapman’s two previous at bats he bunted twice, once for a sacrifice and once for an out. In his third at bat against Mays the count was one and one and the next pitch hit Chapman Square in the head. The ball rolled towards third and Mays fielded it thinking it was another bunt. When he turned around He saw Chapman trying to get up off the dirt with some blood coming out of his ear, then Chapman collapsed again. It was thought he never saw the ball because he never moved. The first and only time a player died from being hit with a thrown baseball!
@donaldleider7382 Жыл бұрын
Good info
@impassable Жыл бұрын
Wow
@TheEternalOne1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@David-wk6md Жыл бұрын
Wow...such a sad story...
@terrishumpert272 Жыл бұрын
@Glennsten Bergkvist I was young but I was at the game! Lol 😆
@donaldleider7382 Жыл бұрын
Some years ago, a bronze plaque memorizing Ray Chapman was found, and properly placed in Heritage Park behind center field at Jacob’s Field (Cleveland). I happened upon it with my wife while visiting the park during gameplay. It tastefully displays not only him, but how the life of a good man transcends the game of baseball. Funny how I remember it but not one detail of the actual game...
@keithmussey9635 Жыл бұрын
Let's hope Ray Chapman never made a racist comment or his plaque will be removed.
@mikelmart Жыл бұрын
He's buried at Lakeview Cemetery not far the President Garfield, the Jacobs brothers, Elliot Ness and his Son, and John Rockefeller
@PolishX Жыл бұрын
@@mikelmart lmao
@helix9268 Жыл бұрын
@@PolishX Who are the Jacobs Borthers?
@joemarshall4226 Жыл бұрын
Jacobs brothers owned the Indians in the 90"s
@msnell326 Жыл бұрын
Even on his death bed in 1971 a few days before his passing, Carl Mays kept insisting that he never meant to throw at Chapman during that fateful game. It was just a very sad, unfortunate accident, and it really is unfair to this day that baseball historians & analysts still feel it necessary to paint Mays as a low life scoundrel who savagely looked to bean Chapman intentionally with that pitch ☹. RIP to both great players 😇🧚♂.
@musicoldies83 Жыл бұрын
No body will say they deliberately try to hurt other player in sport (except combat sport) or they will ban for life , second he just regret the outcome that Chapman Die, but don't felt guild. I dont know about you , a waitress hit her head in table today because I accidentally bump to her , did it deliberate No , did I felt guilt , bloody hell I am. Only psycho don't felt guilt when they hurt someone, let alone kill someone. There is a reason why other player dont like him.
@anubizz3 Жыл бұрын
@@anubizz3 Your analysis is extremely faulty and full of holes. First off, there are many instances over just the course of one baseball season where one player will purposely try to hurt another. Have you ever even watched a baseball game from start to finish? Pitchers throw at hitters all the time in retribution cases to "settle the score" - where one team was trying to show up another team. Also, there are brawls which occur between two teams where bullpens empty and punches are being thrown - mostly caused by players being thrown at. What do you think the intent of those punches are? They certainly aren't meant as love taps. Yet, will any player involved in a brawl come out and publicly state that they were intentionally trying to hurt the other ballplayer? Of course not! That's just plain common sense. Next, you erroneously imply that because a lot of other players don't like a certain ballplayer, it's because that ballplayer looks to intentionally hurt others. Wrong Again! Many well-known players over the course of MLB history weren't well liked by their peers, such as Roger Clemens, Bobby Bonilla, Ty Cobb, Jim Rice, Steve Sax and many others, yet none of them ever killed or seriously maimed anybody during the course of a major league ballgame. Those players weren't well liked mostly because of the attitudes they displayed towards their fellow players, and not because they purposefully looked to injure others. Finally, you stated that Mays "regretted the outcome" but didn't feel any guilt, a statement which, in and of itself, makes no sense whatsoever. It's impossible to be regretful about hurting or killing somebody else, and then not feel any guilt about it. So, in effect, you're even admitting yourself that Mays felt bad for what he did. Also, if you would have bothered reading what I wrote in my original comment, you would have seen where I stated that Mays insisted that he didn't throw at Chapman when he was on his deathbed - a few days before he succumbed. Again, common sense would dictate that - at that point - Mays would have absolutely nothing to lose by indicating that he meant to injure Chapman if that had indeed been the case. On a last note, your statement of, and I directly quote: "Only psycho don't felt guilt when they hurt someone, let alone kill someone" is totally idiotic and non-sensical. Suppose somebody is defending a family member from being attacked, or an intruder entered that person's home and that individual had to knife or gun them down in order to protect themselves and the members of their family. Are you now going to state that individual is a psychopath for killing them? Honestly dude, you're the friggin' psychopath if you truly feel that way. Either that, or you're one of those brainwashed liberals currently destroying society with their policy ideals & evil ways.
@musicoldies83 Жыл бұрын
Only Carl Mays truly knows how he felt after his pitch killed Ray Chapman. The rest of us can only speculate until the end of time whether or not he felt remorse.
@ericinMN1970 Жыл бұрын
@@ericinMN1970 LOL That's an idiotic remark in the sense that you're stating the obvious. Of course nobody knows what truly happened - that's the whole point of the topic being analyzed for discussion in the first place. We're all putting forth our own self perceived observations using educated rationale & deductive reasoning based on the facts of a given situation. This is the same path used by any judicial system anywhere in the world. A bunch of men & women get together as jurors using the process which I described above to determine the innocence or guilt of an accused individual pertaining to a crime that he or she was charged with. If there was somehow a magic crystal ball that they had access to where they could see what actually transpired in a given case, then obviously there would be no need to go thru the whole legal routine to begin with.
@musicoldies83 Жыл бұрын
@@musicoldies83 Your reply is idiotic in the sense that I didn't comment on what "truly happened". Maybe you need to work on reading and comprehension.
@ericinMN1970 Жыл бұрын
Mays and Babe Ruth won 4 WS titles together. They came up with the Red Sox as rookie pitchers in 1915. Boston won the WS that season although neither pitched in that Series. They won two more WS with Boston in 1916 and 1918. Boston traded both of them to the Yankees in 1919 in a fire sale for cash. They subsequently won a WS together with the Yankees in 1923 (though Mays did not pitch that Series, either). Mays finished his career with over 200 wins and ERA of 2.92. He led the AL in wins the year after this incident. The Chapman KBP (killed by pitch) probably caused the Hall of Fame not to induct Mays. Everyone hated Ty Cobb. Mays admittedly threw at Cobb once. Cobb retaliated by throwing his bat at Mays and the benches cleared. So, yes, everyone hated Mays, too.
@straycatttt2766 Жыл бұрын
No one liked Mays he was a grouch not even his own teammates
@jaclaim4283 Жыл бұрын
Cobb threw his bat at him lol
@jonnydanger7181 Жыл бұрын
The guys lucky Cobb didn't shoot him.
@zombiedog1088 Жыл бұрын
Mays was a great pitcher.....should have been in the HOF
@joemarshall4226 Жыл бұрын
@@joemarshall4226 I agree with you. MLB brass had suspected him also of gambling on baseball during the Black Sox era scandal. All these collateral events hurt his chances.
@straycatttt2766 Жыл бұрын
Hockey goaltenders use to play without masks. That was pure insanity.
@brutalplanet1708 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Even the full face fiberglass jobs from late 50's onwards didn't offer much protection, it was still insane. They basically just protected from cuts, you still felt everything almost as if you were bare faced. The protection level did get much better over time though, and some still wore the things into the '80's like Esposito, Fuhr, Lindbergh. I think the last time one was used in an NHL game was in 1989. I know Robin Lehner tried one out for pre-game warmups once, but he's def crazy. haha Said he wouldn't want to do it again.
@C77-C778 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, the “macho” pressure in sports always has been there. Many athletes feared ridicule if they attempted to wear protective gear.
@straycatttt27663 ай бұрын
The big change for goalies safety was BoomBoom Geoffrion making the slap shot popular in 50's and Bobby Hull (another great slapshotter) in 60's popularizing curved blades. The game Jacques Plante played in NHL when he joined after WW2 was way faster and different than it was in 1959 when he first wore his mask.
@vladaАй бұрын
Back in that day, they didn't lift the puck so much and there were no curved sticks. They had slap shots, but scored more by ragging around in front of the crease and maybe deflecting a shot with skates and sticks; and most shots from that area were rebounds. Fast forward to the late 60s and early 70s, there are only 2 goalies not wearing masks, Gump Worsely of Minnesota; and Glenn Hall, a goalie for the St. Louis Blues. Boston goalie Gerry Cheevers's mask was festooned with squiggly black lines signifying every time his mask saved him from a scar that he added to his mask with a magic marker. Goalie leg pads were a lot smaller than today as well.
@ronaldviens7862Ай бұрын
@@ronaldviens7862 I actually have a reproduction of that mask
@brutalplanet1708Ай бұрын
I was hit in the face , leading off the game ( Columbia vs Harvard), I was on my way to the Baltimore Orioles rookie league. Never made it, that pitch gave me a : linear fracture of my cheekbone, concussion, and a nasal hemorrhage. My toes scrunch up when I see a MLB player get hit anyplace, but particularly the head. God bless both these guys! 😥. I have to say: guys I tear up with your heartfelt replies, thank all of you so much, and God Bless everyone here as well. Please understand I never wanted to put myself front and center. I just wanted everyone to know that I really scrunch up when I see a batter getting hit, especially in the head. Pitchers out there know what they are doing when they throw a pitch behind the hitter. Because batters are taught to back up in the batters box . Again I want to thank everyone here for your amazing responses. God bless you all guys, Joey
@joeylocognato2198 Жыл бұрын
Oh good lord man 😦😵💫
@KreemieNewgatt Жыл бұрын
You went to the Ivy League and you're hanging around here? I admit, I once got 750 on both parts of the old GRE, but I went to Tier III colleges. I have an excuse.
@anonymike8280 Жыл бұрын
@@anonymike8280 I live in Cleveland sir, that is where I am from. Hanging around maybe.
@joeylocognato2198 Жыл бұрын
@@joeylocognato2198 That's good explanation.
@anonymike8280 Жыл бұрын
It's too bad you got hit, but it might have been a "blessing in disguise" because it's probably better you didn't waste your time trying to make it to the majors and, I assume, focused on your career instead. I presume you know that very, few guys in the rookie league ever to AAA let alone the big leagues.
@yekutielbenheshel354 Жыл бұрын
I work in industrial construction, which means I sit through many safety training courses. The thing I remember the most is the saying, "many of the safety rules were written in blood". It's sad that people have to be seriously injured or killed before the governing bodies mandate personal protective equipment (PPE). I had no idea this applied to baseball Great video. Very informative.
@joecool2125 Жыл бұрын
I had a chem prof who had worked with nitrates at a refinery. On the day of the lab safety lecture, he brought in the photograph of him wearing the spider webbed safety glasses he wore in the hood when he made a mistake. It made the point and an impression.
@nicholasschroeder3678 Жыл бұрын
so true, it takes a tragedy to get politicians or officials to change anything, then after years of people not getting hurt society forgets why they were there in the first place, then corporate bean counters whine about the "nanny state" and get regulations repealed, until another tragedy... around and around we go... how many times do we hear "tough guy" arm-chair fans whine about sports "getting soft" even tho a pro-football players average life span is 20 years under the average. societies NEED to be regulated.
@prisonersforprofitАй бұрын
You’re inspiring me to take action against a dangerous roadway situation that I’ve been too lazy to act on. I frequently drive on a main surface artery that posts a speed increase from 45 to 55 about 500’ BEFORE a traffic light. This is insane since it promotes flooring it just before the light may turn yellow. Then the driver will beat the yellow light rather than screech to a stop. If the opposite way driver starts a left turn having judged that the opposing vehicle is going about 45, it’s a disaster waiting to happen. Tomorrow I will file a plea with WVDOT to move the increased speed limit sign PAST the light. Thank you!
@gregm8522Ай бұрын
I came across a similar post on my only cruise in the Navy. It went something like, "In the Navy, the safety rules are written in blood " Decades ago when I first saw it on the Bristol County, a tank landing ship (LST), I also felt a sadness that it takes accidents or deaths to move organizations to protect their people from hazards. Some time later, I learned of the U.S. government agency, OSHA. I know many employers dread any contact with the Occupational Safety and Health Administration's inspectors. Maybe that dread has contributed to more attention being given to safety issues and even proactive approaches to guarding individual safety in workplaces over the decades. Thank you for your post and reminding me that we must never take safety for granted.
@cedricgist7614Ай бұрын
@@prisonersforprofit: "Societies NEED to be regulated." What a statement in this time of apparent Conservative dominance in politics. I agree. I tend to be more liberal than many of the loud voices railing against Big Government. I recall studying the U.S. Constitution in 7th grade and regret that I am less-informed than the citizens who were naturalized last week. Yet, I do remember a section that says, in effect, that any rights not reserved to the Federal government belong to the States to exercise as they see fit. Of course, at the time, this allowed for slavery. I'm glad the Founding Fathers drafted a dynamic document that could be amended as times change and society matures. Yet, I think we both recognize the element of human nature and that there is a need to restrain folks so no one runs rough shod over anyone else and individuals are protected under the law. I know rules and regulations can be chafing. I am not for Big Government - sprawling bureaucracy that reaches into every aspect of our lives like Big Brother in "1984." However, History shows that we flawed human beings need government to ward against oppression. Ain't it funny: throughout the World, it seems governments are the biggest oppressors of all....
@cedricgist7614Ай бұрын
There are plenty of aspects to this story that are heartbreaking. A good book on this topic is The Pitch That Killed by Mike Sowell. I recommend it.
@Lava1964 Жыл бұрын
Read it and 5 star reviewed it on Amazon. Great book. They were supposed to make a movie based on Sowell's book, but sadly never happened. Too bad because it's a great human story whether you're a baseball fan or not.
@hiramnoone Жыл бұрын
I read it many years ago. It's one of my favorite books on baseball. It inspired me to replay the 1920 American League season using APBA Baseball. The Yankees one my replay, beating out the Indians. Incidentally, Ray Chapman was injured in the replay. I sent him home where he decided to take "retirement".
@michaelstearnesstearnes1498 Жыл бұрын
Very informative. So that's why the umps keep changing the baseballs every other pitch. RIP Ray Chapman.
@martintruther5808 Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace? Ray has probably been reborn somewhere by now. No doubt as a player with the "new" Cleveland Indians ( I'll never acknowledge that stupid "G" name).
@kentduryea1741 Жыл бұрын
@@kentduryea1741 Thanks Kent, I'm so tired of people calling them Guardians.. They will forever be the Indians to anyone who aren't offended over nothing.
@towelman8589 Жыл бұрын
@@towelman8589 It doesn't offend me personally, but that doesn't mean it's not offensive. I also have a hard time with change, and the Guardians was a poor choice. Blame the new name rather than dying on the hill with the old name.
@WashingtonSportsYuku Жыл бұрын
Well, in addition to keeping the ball visible, the umps are under orders to change the ball waaay more than necessary, even to the point of creating their a supply shortage, because the MLB can then turn around and sell any ball that's been in the game, no matter how insignificantly, as a "Game Ball" and charge a premium to fans and collectors. That's why they go through like 100 - 120 balls per game.
@LogMeInGoddamnit Жыл бұрын
RIP to everyone else playing in the league at that time too lol
@Tuvok_Shakur Жыл бұрын
Always sad everytime I hear about Ray Chapman.
@someperson8151 Жыл бұрын
Progressive Field in Cleveland should have been called Chapman field in memory of its former shortstop. The only major league baseball player to die for the game
@darrellhall6622 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. But the Chapman family would not be able to compete with the corporate giant’s millions they are paying. Unfortunately. Money rules. I wonder if the field even has a memorial like a statue or plaque for him?
@georgea6403 Жыл бұрын
@@georgea6403 Indeed there is www.cleveland.com/livingston/2013/08/almost_a_century_after_the_pit.html
@KreemieNewgatt Жыл бұрын
This is the real world and that did not and will not happen.
@williamford9564 Жыл бұрын
Several minor leaguers were killed by pitches....and High Schoola nd Little Leaguers died every year from thrown and batted balls.....
@joemarshall4226 Жыл бұрын
There was a catcher in the late 1800s who crashed into a wall chasing a foul ball and died from his injuries
@isaacscanlon218224 күн бұрын
I did a stat comparison one time. Walter Johnson & Carl Mays actually hit batters at a nearly identical rate. Since Walter was a nice likeable guy, and Carl Mays apparently was not, Mays got the reputation as a head hunter, while the Big Train did not.
@TheBatugan77 Жыл бұрын
There could be very different underlying reasons for those rates. One player may have had a control issue, or a particular pitch that tended to move or stay inside. Most of his bean balls might have been to the leg or hand. The other player may have routinely thrown high and inside; a significant number of his bean balls might have been to the upper body or head. So the reputations might be well deserved, even though the very simple math that you've done can't identify a difference.
@glenm99 Жыл бұрын
@TheBatugan, or it could also be that Johnson had over 3500 K's while Mays had about 860 K's. 417 wins compared to 207 wins, it's not about being likeable, it's about who was the dominant pitcher period.
@TeufelHunden605 Жыл бұрын
@@TeufelHunden605 "Nearly identical rate..." Apparently you don't know what 'rate' means.
@TheBatugan77 Жыл бұрын
You think like-ability was the key factor? Uh…. Ok then.
@bryansmith9431 Жыл бұрын
@@bryansmith9431 Good. That's what it was
@TheBatugan77 Жыл бұрын
Nice film. You put this together perfectly. I love the photos of Mays and Chapman. There's something mesmerizing and sinister about Mays' photo in mid pitch. It's uncanny and it reminds me of a strange piece of art depicting a war dance.
@jasonuerkvitz3756 Жыл бұрын
I’ve visited Chapman’s grave living in the Cleveland area. Knew some of the story. Never knew the effect on Baseball U presented here. TY so much Professor. Many Blessings cm 🙏🇺🇸
@deadalready7467 Жыл бұрын
All that typing and you still cannot type out the word "you"?
@DVankeuren Жыл бұрын
Old-time Indian and Yankee fans who remembered the Mays/Chapman incident got a second shock on May 7, 1957, when Yankee Gil McDougald, at the plate, lined a pitch back at Indian pitcher Herb Score, hitting Score right in the face. He recovered and returned to pitching, but was never the same afterward, although he denied that the injury was the reason.
@jimslancio Жыл бұрын
Pick up your cross and follow Jesus! The world is quickly headed for destruction, and sooner or later you will have to sit at the judgement seat and give an account for your actions. Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life! - Revelation 3:20. Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God tho. Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc and you should get a response. Have a blessed day!
@benc589 Жыл бұрын
The pinch runner who came in for Chapman would score the winning run of the game. Cleveland then got hot and went on to win the AL pennant that year by two games over the White Sox and three over the Yankees. They then went on to win the World Series over the Brooklyn Robbins 5 games to 2. (The series was a best of nine that year.) I remember when players started wearing head protection in the 1960's. Many players felt it was unmanly, but eventually saw the sense of it. Some wore protective caps under their baseball caps. Others had the hard protective helmet, but without the ear flap.
@MFPhoto1 Жыл бұрын
They didn’t stop the game after the deadly pitch?
@MikeCee7 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeCee7 No. As I recall reading, Chapman lived through the night and died early the next morning. So no one realized the injury was fatal. Mays did turn himself into the police after hearing Chapman died, but the DA ruled it an accidental homicide, and there were no criminal charges.
@MFPhoto1 Жыл бұрын
Excellent homage to that era - thanks.
@mirrorblue100 Жыл бұрын
While the spitball was banned in 1920, those pitchers using it in previous years were "grandfathered in" and continued to use it.
@Ultravate Жыл бұрын
Funny to think it was ok for them to spit over a ball which would be touched & fielded by other players. Just think of all those players rubbing their fingers all over their teammates spit. Weird...
@billb3414 Жыл бұрын
@@billb3414 Guess how the balls get rubbed up for high school games when the school can't afford rubbing mud.
@karlrovey Жыл бұрын
there was one pitcher who was not a spitballer until the grandfather clause kicked in
@geoffroi-le-Hook Жыл бұрын
@@billb3414 the infielders were in on it too. They would spit tobacco juice or licorice juice into their gloves, and rub it on the ball. New balls were rarely taken out of play, and the game in question it was dusk and cloudy. Bill James wrote about it in a number of his books. Chapman likely never saw it till it was too late.
@g.t.richardson6311Ай бұрын
Also mays had a weird motion, basically he threw underhanded.
@g.t.richardson6311Ай бұрын
Submarine pitching is a lost art. Today, only seven major league pitchers use that style.
@davidlayne4147 Жыл бұрын
I love watching submarine pitchers go to work. In fact, I will tune into certain ballgames just to see a submarine or a knuckleball pitcher. I also wish someone like Ricky Henderson existed. The game today is exciting, but certain baseball arts are in repose.
@thebaseballprofessor Жыл бұрын
I saw one that I recall, Pirate Kent Tekulve, in Atlanta.
@davidcouch6514 Жыл бұрын
Tyler Rogers of the SF Giants
@MoreLBo1zo2046 Жыл бұрын
@@thebaseballprofessor it's hard to have someone as fast as Ricky
@kxngnestor8764 Жыл бұрын
its not a lost art...its just really bad for your shoulder, not as bad as side arm, but still not suggested for longevity in pitching
@sidthesloth12 Жыл бұрын
Ray Chapman is a relative of mine (somehow). Ancestry has him married to a distant cousin. His story is part of our family lore . . .
@gordonelwell7084 Жыл бұрын
Ray's wife Katie was our 1st cousin twice removed!
@rozannehakala3034 Жыл бұрын
yeah, ok.
@huckleberry460 Жыл бұрын
I have watched a few of your videos and they are all well done. Excellent narration too. This from a new subscriber. Keep up the fine work.
@kevin7151 Жыл бұрын
After the deadly pitch, Carl Mays played nine more seasons in the major leagues and was highly effective when healthy. He won 27 games in 1921 and contributed to the Yankees pennant winning seasons in 1921 and 1922. One can make the argument for Carl Mays' inclusion in the Baseball Hall of Fame.
@thebaseballprofessor Жыл бұрын
"Contributed"? He was one of the worst pitchers in the league in 1923 at 5-2 with a 6.20 ERA and he didn't even pitch in that world series. Seems like you're grasping at straws there and being a little disingenuous by even bothering to include his presence on that team without mentioning how terrible he was on that '23 team. I agree, his stats were very good when he was healthy but he stopped being healthy after 1922 and could only manage 2 full seasons out of 7 after that. The case for him being HOFamer is pretty thin in my opinion, though he did get 2.8% of the vote in 1958 so.... he's got that going for him.
@jennyanydots2389 Жыл бұрын
Good point about 1923 (I just edited my pinned comment). I will say, however, Mays had two stellar seasons with Cinncinnati and retired from baseball with a 51.2 lifetime WAR. There are plenty of HOF pitchers with less impressive stats.
@thebaseballprofessor Жыл бұрын
@@thebaseballprofessor You're probably right about the hall of fame stuff though. He was kinda sorta unofficially black-listed for a couple things. The Chapman thing, people thought he had a hand in throwing a world series and they say he was just a generally unpleasant person who shared little in common with his teammates outside of baseball. After looking at his contemporaries' career stats his numbers line up fairly well even when you consider how much time he missed after the '22 season. He was also a pretty good hitter, I think his career average was around .270 and they would use him as a pinch hitter sometimes on his off days.
@jennyanydots2389 Жыл бұрын
The ball hit his head so hard that it bounced on the field and was fielded by an infielder not knowing it hit his head .
@mafia_dave32 Жыл бұрын
That's how the story goes. But it wasn't just any infielder... In fact, it was the pitcher (Carl Mays) that fielded the ball. But just like any historical moment, we don't know for sure if this is all true. Carl Mays must've been stupid if he didn't realize the person he pitched the ball to fell to the ground. This leads me to believe the fielding part of the story is fake.
@billb3414 Жыл бұрын
@@billb3414 If you pause the video @ 1:42 and look at the newspaper accounts from the next day, they say Mays was the one who fielded it and threw it to first.
@daroofa Жыл бұрын
@@billb3414 The only stupid idiot here is you. If a pitcher hears a 'crack', he's looking for the ball. Not at the batter. You are a loser. LooHOOhooHOOhooSER!
@TheBatugan77 Жыл бұрын
@@billb3414 You're an idiot, billy boy.
@TheBatugan77Ай бұрын
@@billb3414 i would guess nearly every pitcher i've ever seen deliver the ball didn't have their eyes on the catcher/batter through a significant portion of their post-release movement. this video made the remark that the the collision of the ball with the batter's skull was loud and resembled the crack of a bat (i dont remember for sure about his last bit, i might have made that up). if you went through a motion and rotated away from the batter, and heard the report of the bat while you rotated, and then saw the ball rolling on the field, i could see fielding it and throwing out the batter. if that was me, i'm guessing the thing that would have stopped me was aiming for a throw to 1st but not seeing a runner.
@muddro4209 күн бұрын
I had a friend that was catching at Ohio State in the 1900s, the pitcher hit a batter in the chest and he died on the spot. The pitcher and catcher walked off and never played another game again. My friend became a doctor.
@jonlanier_ Жыл бұрын
You had a friend playing in the 1900's? Are you 110?
@cameronevanstheanalogueall7729 Жыл бұрын
@@cameronevanstheanalogueall7729 1990s are in the 1900s. So are the 1980s, 1970s, etc. Awkwardly stated but accurate
@seaotter52 Жыл бұрын
No disrespect here, but how old are you man? If you were alive in the 1900’s and you mean that to be 1900-1910 you’ve got some incredible genetics!
@piercehubbard4086 Жыл бұрын
Ok everyone so the way this is phrased makes it sound like this commenter was the same age as his friend. But I've become friends with people 50+ years older than me, mostly through my jobs in restaurants. You befriend regulars no matter their age. So his friend was probably in their 20's in the 1900's and if they lived to 80 they would have been alive in the through the 60's. And if the commenter was in his 20's or 30's at that time then he would be in his late 70's or 80's now. Definitely feasible. Probably unlikely, but not technically impossible.
@mastod0n1 Жыл бұрын
@@piercehubbard4086 Nice sarcasm. Almost got me. You could so easily get folks by telling them your folks are so old they were born in the 1900s. If you are 23+ then you could say that about yourself.
@seaotter52 Жыл бұрын
Very well produced short. It grabbed even a casual observer of baseball like me.
@marklondon3823 Жыл бұрын
Totally unexpected. Nice work. I had an entirely different expectation about how baseball would've changed over this incident. Again, nice work.
@craigpridemore5831 Жыл бұрын
Having been to MLB games for the past 45 years, the one thing that surprises me is that more fans haven't been killed by foul balls. My god, some of the foul balls go into the stands at over 100 MPH. Us baseball fans know some situations: left handed hitter- can slice a line drive foul ball to the left side over the third base dougout. If that ball hits you in the head when you're not looking....... Anyways, good luck everybody!
@dennistani1986 Жыл бұрын
People don't care about the games and they don't pay attention, that's why they put up the screens down the lines. Can't catch a ball now. I think it sucks.
@lloydclaussen3925 Жыл бұрын
@@lloydclaussen3925 You're full of crap. They extended the screens a bit further up the lines, but plenty of foul balls still get into the stands.
@rylian21 Жыл бұрын
Yeats ago...ca 1976 or 77 I knew a girl who had the worst crush on Bucky Dent. Went to the stadium one night just to see him in action...she met him...but not the way she wanted to...she gitbhitbin the face when his bat flew out of his hand and hit her in the face broke a bone...or two...he was a standup guy...went to the hospital and apologized..she. despite her injuries was thrilled...
@cbroz7492 Жыл бұрын
Those screaming foul balls usually have a mean slice.
@TheBatugan77 Жыл бұрын
@@cbroz7492 Sad but heartening story. Bucky was a standup guy!
@TheBatugan77 Жыл бұрын
Gotta say this is my favorite baseball channel ! Thank u for the in depth history !!!!! My favorite players ( to many to list but the to tier are :) mickey mantle , Nolan Ryan ,cal ripken Jr, Rickey Henderson , Greg maddux , Mike musina , Reggie Jackson , and Tony Gwen / Kirby Puckett (tied). I enjoyed the Nolan Ryan back history I saw and hope to see others on my favorite players ! Keep up the great work !!!! I'm trying to keep up with sports again now that my life is allowing the time again. I hope to play catch with my toddler son when his motor skills develop better. 😅
@mike288411 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment, Mike! It makes me happy to hear about a father planning to play catch with his son. :)
@thebaseballprofessor11 ай бұрын
I did not know that! Thanks for putting this together.
@jakea6837 Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing that this man’s death did not much to add safety to baseball but rather introduced the live ball era to Major League Baseball, giving us legends like Babe Ruth, Lou Geihrig, and Rogers Hornsby to cheer on and watch what would have been impossible a year earlier with dirty doctored baseballs.
@tyronebiggums1213 Жыл бұрын
As a cricket player and fan I can see the parallels in our sports. Back in day batters had no helmets and fast bowlers would, and still do, routinely bowl at the batters head. As far as I know, there have been two instances where batters have been killed in this way.
@michael42158 Жыл бұрын
Not too long ago a cricket player was killed while wearing a helmet.
@jimaanders7527 Жыл бұрын
It's the tea. 🍵 ☕
@TheBatugan77 Жыл бұрын
If you ever hold a baseball and a cricket ball you notice the difference. Baseballs are rock hard verses the cricket ball which is softer and more giving. At least the cricket ball that I have held. I grew up on baseball.
@lazarochavez1 Жыл бұрын
@@lazarochavez1 When a cricket ball is new at the beginning of the innings it is very hard, then softens during play.
@michael42158 Жыл бұрын
@@lazarochavez1 A new cricket ball is typically significantly harder as well as 10% heavier than a baseball.
@lxUn1c0 Жыл бұрын
You can’t blame Carl Mays. In the time he played, balls weren’t changed every pitch like today. Batters wore no protective helmets. Pitchers threw spitballs, some players (Ty Cobb)sharpened their spikes, batters used corked bats, etc. Tony Conigliaro was hit in the head in the ‘60’s, & it ended his career. That’s when they began wearing helmets with side shields. Same types of things happened in football too, & the gear they wear now is like armor compared to what they wore way back in those early times.
@SteveBrownRocks202327 күн бұрын
I'm Australian and have never had any particular interest in baseball (I'm a cricket man), but I watched the Ken Burns Baseball documentary series and absolutely loved it. This incident was brilliantly covered in that series but this was a deeper dive into it. Thank you.
@NewFalconerRecords Жыл бұрын
Mays was my great great great (great? Maybe? Cant remember how many) grandfather. Have some cool photos of him. I met Bobby Doer before he passed away, he is a HOF Red Sox player that played with Mays and he lived in Oregon, where I live, and he told us stories of him and Carl Mays hunting in John Day, Eastern Oregon. Bobby also told me how he would always cast a vote to induct Carl Mays into the HOF given he was a phenomenal pitcher, but with Bobby passing away, it's likely Mays will never get in. There's also a family story of a great great grandmother that played with Babe Ruth's daughter underneath Yankee stadium. Not sure if it is true, but it's been told around the family for ever. Carl also lost the vast majority of his wealth during the great depression and he had an unrivaled hatred for Ty Cobb, who felt the same about Mays.
@coryfoster6004 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff. I assume Bobby liked your ancestor, Mr Mays? Did he say anything about his personality?
@joemarshall4226 Жыл бұрын
@@joemarshall4226 They were great friends. They often hunted in eastern Oregon together, I remember a story he told where they both tagged a buck in the same season, and I think the same day. He was an advocate to put Mays in the HOF, so he truley appreciated him and others talk about how nice Mays was as well!
@coryfoster6004 Жыл бұрын
@@coryfoster6004 The best way to judge a pitcher's career is by his ERA+ and the number of inning he pitched. Carl had a 119 ERA+ (19% better than the average pitcher), and he pitched just over 3000 innings. Similar toe David Cone and Jimmy Key who had similar ERA+ numbers (121 and 123) but fewer innings pitched (2898 and just over 2500) Their ERA+ numbers are higher than the following pitchers: Bert Blyleven, Gaylord Perry, Catfish Hunter, Phil Neikro, Jim Bunning, Steve Carlton,Warren Spahn (119 also), Dennis Eckersley, Red Ruffing, Jack Morris, Pud Galvin, Don Sutton, Jim Kaat, Jesse Haines, Jack Chesbro, Nolan Ryan, Chief Bender, Waite Hoyt,Robin Roberts, Candy Cummings, Eppa Rixey, Ferguson Jenkins, Vic Willis, Ted Lyons and Tom Glavine....now some of these pitchers had way more IP, but some had fewer, so there's a case for Carl as a borderline Candidate for the Hall of Fame.
@joemarshall4226 Жыл бұрын
This is my first time coming across your channel. I subscribed. Thank you.
@mick6479 Жыл бұрын
Loved the history of this pitch by Carl Mays that changed the game of baseball forever as you tell it. You yourself are a great story teller, a professional historian, who as you say does baseball history for fun. I also like that you site your sources on screen in your videos. My only addition to your story would be that Ray Chapman more than crowded the plate while hitting. “Ray Chapman hugged plate so closely when he batted that his head was usually in the strike zone.” Source: 20th Century Baseball Chronicle, 1992. This in no way dimensions your video or history of this pitch in 1920 that forever changed baseball. My dad bought that book for me at Cooperstown in ‘92. I was so intrigued by your video I pulled it off my bookshelf and read about it. Fascinating history. Foreign substances placed on baseballs were forbidden that year. More importantly just as you tell the story clean baseballs were mandatory during the game because of the unfortunate death of Chapman. Now to watch the rest of your baseball video. Can’t wait to see the 1950’s as low point for MLB. Thanks for getting me to reread a book I always treasured given to me by late father, a man who loved baseball.
@spg1026 Жыл бұрын
Why do you think 1950s was the.low point in baseball
@jameswalton3930 Жыл бұрын
In the wee wee early 1980’s, I broke my arm. As I waited in the emergency room a kid came in by ambulance. He had gotten hit in the mouth, which pushed his braces up into his mouth. Why they had not given him painkillers is beyond me, and to make it worse they had to wait on a dental surgeon. Poor guy was in so much pain.
@wynfrithnichtwo8423 Жыл бұрын
Just because someone isn't considered popular doesn't mean that they are a bad person. Nor are popular people necessarily virtuous.
@d.martin7692 Жыл бұрын
Man this is great footage. Mays really went down low to fling his pitches. I knew he was a submarine pitcher and always had the curiosity of what his motion was like. Well, a mystery no more but damn I can see why Chapman never saw the pitch coming.
@jdspreest Жыл бұрын
Dan Quisenberry from the Kansas City Royals was the same submarine style pitcher and was hard to hit off. I always wondered how different the damage to your elbow was for a submarine style pitcher versus a regular overhand. I think overhand pitcher would have more shoulder rotator cuff , upper arm issues and a submarine pitcher would probably have more issues in the elbow but that's just my opinion I'm sure there's some kind of damage after 10 to 12 years of pitching that style at 95 to 98 mph regularly
@mikejacobs2886 Жыл бұрын
@@mikejacobs2886 Once the base salary for a ballplayer went over a million per, I stopped worrying the wear and tear. Quisenberry died of brain cancer at the age of 45. Obviously not baseball related. Looking at the pictures, I seriously doubt he used steroids.
@anonymike8280 Жыл бұрын
@@anonymike8280 No he was definitely not using steroids. I'm not sure that steroids were even around in the early 80's. Strange that Quisenberry died of a brain tumor. I know that the Rpyals head coach of Quisenberry ( Dick Howser) also died from a brain tumor in 1985. 1 year after Quisenberry.
@mikejacobs2886 Жыл бұрын
@@mikejacobs2886 Steroids have been around since at least the 1930s. purified testosterone since the 1890s, crude testosterone earlier than that. Then there's the expedient of mountain oysters. Braise lightly, chew thoroughly. However, Quisenberry was in no way built like a steroid user. Ballplayers from the 50s and 60s knew about steroids but they were not widely available. They used greenies and white crosses (amphetamines). These did not make you a better athlete like steroids will, but there is much to be said for staying alert and avoiding creeping weight gain. One of the effects of PED use is enhanced performance. When you see enhanced performance, unfortunately, you have to consider the possibility of PED use. That's not just today, but going way back. I suspect, but cannot prove, that extreme consistency from year year is another possible indication of PED use, especially if performance does not fall off past the early 30s. Athletes have always sought an edge and their psychology is that there achievements are earned even they cheat. One of the few who ever was honest was Jose Canseco. He straight out said once, without steroids he wouldn't even have been in the big leagues.
@anonymike8280 Жыл бұрын
@@anonymike8280 Wow those are some interesting facts, thank you for sharing that. I know alot of synthetic drugs were have now were originally Parr of the early German chemists. Germany actually synthesized Amphetamines to keep their soldiers alert. All you need to see about steroids is to look at Barry Bonds before and after. So obvious. Huge muscular gain. Thanks for the information.
@mikejacobs2886 Жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace
@gretahottunareed Жыл бұрын
This is documented in a great book called "The Pitch that Killed".
@ericharmon7163 Жыл бұрын
Also kind of crazy to consider they didn’t think of batters wearing any sort of head protection like a helmet especially since during the dead ball era pitches were more erratic with their movement and harder to see.
@themusic6808 Жыл бұрын
There was a time that they didn’t even play with gloves
@dspsblyuth Жыл бұрын
I never knew about this. I just thought players always wore helmets when at bat. Thanks for the history lesson.
@karenrich9092 Жыл бұрын
There was a time they didn’t even play with gloves
@dspsblyuth Жыл бұрын
Fine video, short and sweet but full of informative value.
@bottominaplatecarrier1118 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Harold Klawans, in his book "Why Michael Couldn't Hit and Other Tales of the Neurology of Sport," offers a brief analysis of the fatal pitch, explaining that Chapman never really saw the pitch because the visual cells that saw the submarine delivery hadn't learned to trigger any reflexes.
@orbyfan Жыл бұрын
Sonar helps with identifying submarines.
@TheBatugan77 Жыл бұрын
And a dirty ball kept in play too long
@g.t.richardson6311 Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Mr Chapman
@alandesouzacruz51245 ай бұрын
I just read up on Mickey Mantle a while a go. Came across something called the batter's eye. That patch of greenery or dark colored seating right behind the center field such that the batter can see the ball. I didn't recall when it came out but I'm sure this incident was influential.
@dragoncarver287 Жыл бұрын
I've been a baseball fan for over 40 years. I had no idea about this. Thx for the great intel.
@metalgamingwarrior2714Ай бұрын
Another change resulting from this incident was that centerfield fences have no advertisements and are painted green. This allows the batter to better see the ball as it’s delivered. Not sure when the change was made or if it was directly in response to Chapman’s death, but player safety became a higher priority after 1920.
@LouBloss7 күн бұрын
Excellent presentation of a far reaching incident in Baseball History. Thank you.
@curiouscoot1987Ай бұрын
Merci for this. I went to our Swiss sports ground and heard the crack of the baseball, so headed over to watch. The school had their electives Gym class on the baseball diamong throwing and batting. I tried to give some pointers at the young men. They didn't care to listen. One kid was standing facing the pitcher and tried to slash at the ball. His teacher had told him to turn with his side, but he didn't care. The trouble is that they teach baseball and not softball, and even girls are enrolled. Western Switzerland is not a breeding ground for baseball talent.
@lawrencetaylor4101 Жыл бұрын
i'm surprised anyone plays baseball in switzerland.
@minamur Жыл бұрын
Interesting thought process. "Someone got killed by getting nailed in the head with a pitch. Should we make everyone wear protective headgear?" "Nah, let's just make the ball easier to see so they can move out of the way." Apparently it helped a little?
@101jir Жыл бұрын
I have to think that not requiring helmets might also have been that they probably would have been made of heavy, padded leather or of metal. Not very comfortable. The lightweight plastic helmet didn't exist at the time.
@patrickmorgan4006 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmorgan4006 A very good point! Didn't think of that.
@101jir Жыл бұрын
ruth taking a cross step into his swing is crazy. was his timing just that good or pitchers timing that predictable. i think for sure they throw at someones head if they take a cross step like that these days. that makes wild crazy power
@MrLostform Жыл бұрын
Pitchers wouldn't throw at a batter's head if they did a cross-step, they would simply change the timing of their delivery and make the batter look foolish
@rico9163 Жыл бұрын
I saw him pitch on old baseball films. Quite a talent and surely a one of a kind. Self made talent.
@NormanSilvАй бұрын
Not so fun fact: almost a year to the day before he was killed Ray Chapman was struck by lightning during a game. The lightning struck pitcher Ray Caldwell then the catcher and Chapman. It was the ninth inning and Caldwell finished the game. Just found out Caldwell was one of the starting pitchers at the opening of both Fenway Park and Ebbets Field.
@richstrobel26 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your research
@RatelLaw Жыл бұрын
A very fine little bit of history, sadly that's how a lot of history is made. RIP . 👍
@johnking6252Ай бұрын
You should do a video about Adam Greenberg. The Cubs player who was hit in the head and ended his career with only one at bat. Even though he tried a comeback later he was never able to play the game fully.
@MayhemAndGridlock Жыл бұрын
There are other examples, like Tony Conigliaro and Dickie Thon to name two.
@bradfilippone7064 Жыл бұрын
I've always said, that UNFORTUNATELY, Tragedy must occur, Before ANY change is ever made 😢
@2riverageo Жыл бұрын
Yes agreed, rules and regulations are often written in blood.
@mattboggs6304 Жыл бұрын
Your excellent video has spawned some excellent baseball talk in the comments. Great job.
@edgarsnake2857 Жыл бұрын
Baseball outlawed pitcher's using foreign substances on the baseball in February of 1920, before the season started. That rule was not a direct result of the Chapman beaning, which occurred in August of that year. Using only clean baseballs was the major rule change that was a direct result of Chapman's death.
@patrickcolon8809Ай бұрын
My brother's father-in-law was playing an exhibition football game. He was in a semi-pro football team and he said he was just rock hard muscle. The other football team was an informal non-professional football team, really just a bunch of guys that liked to play football. At the kickoff, my brother's father-in-law tackled the kickoff receiver. He admitted it was a hard hit because that's how you play in semi-pro football. All of the players on that team wanted to go to the pros, so they played at their top form. Well, the guy that returned the kickoff, was severely hurt and broke his back. He was paralyzed from the neck down. My brother's father-in-law felt guilty for the rest of his life.
@sjb3460Ай бұрын
Ever see Ted Abernathy's (the late 60s /early 70s) submarine curve? Three foot horizontal curve. The epitome of the high school curve ball. All horizontal break and no vertical movement. Terrorized rookies. Veterans hit them into the cheap seats.
@stokerboiler Жыл бұрын
David Cone had a similar pitch, from low side arm. They called it "The bolero".
@joemarshall4226 Жыл бұрын
Fred Lieb was a noted baseball scorer, historian, and writer; his book "Baseball As I Have Known It" covers over 70 years of his observations. I just looked it up. He said Tillinghaust Huston, the owner of the Yankees during the 1920s, was in Florida one year with Wilbert Robinson and some other executives, and after a bout of drinking rum and Coca-cola, Huston tried to share a story with Lieb, but Robinson kept interfering. At last, the story came out: Huston said that Mays threw games in both the 1921 and 1922 Series. There also was an actor who independently shared this information with Lieb: that Mays's wife was signaling him with a white handkerchief from the stands that the fix was on (in cash). When Lieb researched the results of the innings in question, it was clear that the NY Giants had suddenly found themselves getting base hits whereupon before, they were unable to get anything against Mays.
@MDLOP88 ай бұрын
1:24 Notice how the shadow hangs over home plate area as a potential distraction.
@AmishWebmaster Жыл бұрын
Interesting fact..Chapman was replace by Joe Sewell who was inducted to the HALL OF FAME and was the toughest player in baseball history to strikeout.
@terrylake22 Жыл бұрын
Growing up we had one brother hit another brother in the head with a snowball and it killed him. Be careful what and where you throw.
@2jacksplat Жыл бұрын
woah...that is really sad.....
@joemarshall4226 Жыл бұрын
Did not know any of this. Great video.
@creepycrespi8180 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Sad story. I appreciate many of the comments below also.
@whitneymacdonald43962 ай бұрын
Great but very sad story. Rip Chapman
@sameshitdifferentsmell1305 Жыл бұрын
I think Tony Conigliaro had his career ended by a pitch to the face. I think he played for the Red Sox. I was a kid and don't remember exactly the details of that,though.
@jameschancey251 Жыл бұрын
Tony C was on a HOF trajectory when he was hit. He eventually came back but was never close to being the same player. He died in his 40s. IMO, he was beaned in retaliation for the headhunting that Jim Lonborg regularly did as a Red Sox player that year.
@ohger1 Жыл бұрын
@@ohger1 Thanks for refreshing my memory. I was not aware that he died so young.
@jameschancey251 Жыл бұрын
@@ohger1 Hey J.D. Is that when they started putting ear flaps on batting helmets?
@jameschancey251 Жыл бұрын
@@jameschancey251 I don't recall, but it was in that era I believe.
@ohger1 Жыл бұрын
The last baseball game I ever played was once I was 15 and took a fastball directly to the temple and got a concussion. That was the last pitch I ever took. I'm 43 now and until I watched this video I've been telling myself for decades "how could i have not seen the ball?" It always bothered me how I saw the pitcher go through his motion and I remember thinking "where's the ball?" right before it hit me in the head. Watching this video makes me feel a little better that a professional also didn't see a dirty ball on a bad weather day.
@billkammermeierАй бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I got hit in the face playing catch once. I can only imagine what it would've felt like 25 mph faster.
@thebaseballprofessorАй бұрын
Great segment!
@reviewcentral1209Ай бұрын
The fact that there were no lights 🚥 at the Polo Grounds at the time didn't help matters any. (Night baseball at the Polo Grounds wouldn't be played until 1940).
@kevinmiller63804 ай бұрын
Imagining the cloudy, late afternoon skies really puts things into perspective.
@thebaseballprofessor4 ай бұрын
First time watching it was a good video thank you
@alexterry558 Жыл бұрын
It’s like Chapman unwillingly gave his life to save Baseball. May he Rest In Peace.
@cougar2013 Жыл бұрын
Unwittingly anyway.
@majorpuggington Жыл бұрын
@@majorpuggington that’s probably what I was trying to say lol
@cougar2013 Жыл бұрын
@@cougar2013 It’s stunning to me , if not arrogant on the part of MLB , that it took , what..almost 50 blankety blank years for MLB to wake up to the danger of a rock coming to within a very few inches of your head; that could kill you , before they FINALLY started with helmets ??!! And R.I.P. ✝️ Tony Conigliaro a great guy and a great team player of the Boston Red Sox, who died in 1990, - he was hit in the face by a fastball in 1967, and suffered from the effects of this until his untimely passing at the young age of 45. BTW, why were all the baseball columnists and radio announcers silent and ineffective , during all those long years ? !
@jnstonbely5215 Жыл бұрын
Interesting story... thank you!
@stevemcelmury4618 Жыл бұрын
This is what made us transition from the dead ball to the live ball Era. Even though you look guys like Ruth and ty cobb the numbers they put up during the dead Era is still mind blowing.
@rongary3186 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you.
@georgeduarte8627 Жыл бұрын
Pick up your cross and follow Jesus! The world is quickly headed for destruction, and sooner or later you will have to sit at the judgement seat and give an account for your actions. Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life! - Revelation 3:20. Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God tho. Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc and you should get a response. Have a blessed day!
@benc589 Жыл бұрын
the defining moment from the dead ball (no pun intended) era to the modern game era.
@tomitstube Жыл бұрын
I had never heard of this. I’ve watched Ken Burns’ Baseball several times but don’t recall this being mentioned.
@samgunn12 Жыл бұрын
Watching the Burns documentary you'd never know baseball was played outside of Boston and New York.
@mikegeither7785 Жыл бұрын
@@mikegeither7785 ToughShit. NYC is what matters.
@TheBatugan77 Жыл бұрын
@@TheBatugan77 then play by your got-damn self, all everything.
@jameswalton3930 Жыл бұрын
Subscribed... cool channel... Red Sox and Tony Canigliaro fan
@davidmattson5209 Жыл бұрын
Why have I never heard of this until now this changed everything
@user-tp2ex8gd1f28 күн бұрын
RIP that’s messed up
@wread1982 Жыл бұрын
That footage of Ruth looked like he was running into the pitch.
@MikeJones-rk1un Жыл бұрын
They have implemented a lot of rules that have made the game safer
@rickyparrish8310Ай бұрын
I’m confused by the Babe Ruth reference… Was the change in the number of Ruth’s homers that year bigger than the average change for other players//teams?
@gruntopolouski5919 Жыл бұрын
Not into sports but this story touched me somehow, thank you.
@heethn Жыл бұрын
The "livelier ball" ie., cork-centered ball, had already been is use for about ten years previous to Ruth's Home Run pace.
@stevefish3124 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you!
@JBoles-pb9nc Жыл бұрын
Protective headgear in MLB became mandatory in the late 1950s, not the 70s.
@hiramnoone Жыл бұрын
1971 In 1971, Major League Baseball made helmets mandatory, though some veterans continued to wear cloth caps with liners under a grandfather clause. They included Norm Cash, Bob Montgomery and Tony Taylor.Feb 14, 2022 Provided by Google
@jimmeeks320 Жыл бұрын
@@jimmeeks320 Yeah, I read that. But I also read that the NL passed a league rule in 1956 that made protective headgear for batters mandatory. The rule then being adopted in 1958 by the AL. I know for a fact having lived through the 70s that no team in MLB was sending players to bat without headgear in 1970. And if you look at film from the 60s' only Norm Cash and a few others were wearing that insert. Otherwise it was helmets.
@hiramnoone Жыл бұрын
@@hiramnoone I remember that the late 70s early 80s they first started requiring earflaps on helmets. Seems to me that there was a grandfather clause and Pete Rose was the last player to wear a helmet without earflaps.
@big8dog887 Жыл бұрын
@@big8dog887 Ear flaps were mandatory for rookies only, and optional after that first year is the way it was originally set up. Not sure if it's still that way, but seems like most hitters wear the helmet with the flap. Some even with the flap extending past the jaw. Plus all kinds of other protective devices, on elbows shins and insteps so that some of these guys go up there looking like they're wearing suits of armor. Times have certainly changed in that regard since 1920.
@hiramnoone Жыл бұрын
We called that a sling shot delivery in fastpitch softball. How that was considered legal even then boggles my mind.
@highonimmiАй бұрын
Great video an even better background music…👍
@DGFX64 Жыл бұрын
So sad that something that tragic change the game forever in a better way
@BobDog72Ай бұрын
Cricket has the added ingredient that the ball mostly hits the pitch before the batter plays his shot! For it to work the pitch has to be perfectly flat. There was an infamous Test match in the West Indies, early 1990s, where the pitch was awful and the ball was flying all over the place. Game was abandoned after an hour or two, both teams agreed it was a danger to life and limb!
@petercorbett3794 Жыл бұрын
Sad story.
@wilrobles9824 Жыл бұрын
You didn't have to ask me to subscribe. I like your style and your presentation.
@billwhite970329 күн бұрын
There was also the case of Manny Senerchia, who played third base for the Pittsburgh Pirates; was beaned in 1952. He was unconscious for an hour. They carried him off. MLB got more behind plastic helmets after that.
@kellyem33Ай бұрын
The thing is, you have to start your swing before the ball is released in pro ball if its a fast ball. Part of the batters swing calculations are based on the pitchers body motions. Having a dirty ball will make the final calculation harder though.
I met Carl Mays and his second wife, Esther, in 1964 at their ranch near Dayville Oregon. My brother and I played catched with a ball that he had just signed for us. In doing so, we roughed up the leather and his signature. Upon Carl seeing us doing this, he laughed and joined in for a three way game of catch. The next day Carl signed an other ball for each of us with the promise we'd never play catch with them. I still have those two baseballs to this day. I remember Carl telling us story of his life but rarely about his baseball career. Esther enjoyed telling stories of inspiration that left a positive impact on my life to this day. I enjoyed their company immensely.
Any interest in selling one of those? He was a distant relative and it would be a really cool gift for my dad, who talks about Carl a ton. I met Bobby Doer in Junction City, I beleive, and he told us stories of him and Carl when they'd hunt in John Day. If you have no interest to sell them, I'd really appreciate at least a picture if possible!!
@@coryfoster6004 I'm not sure I'm ready to sell one of Carl's baseballs. Had a coworker offer me $1,600 back in the early 90's and I decided pretty quickly not to. I can take a picture but not sure if you really want to give me your email address? Carl was a big time hunter, no matter if it was open season or not. He hunt a lot on my grandmother's ranch, Cant/Mascall ranch. Beautiful country in the middle of nowhere.
I love these kinda things, especially growing up in Oregon, also a baseball fan, and a believer. Thank you for sharing!
Yea and I'm the president of the United States of America.
@@HeatherRadcliffe-pb1vj- Congratulations Mr. Biden. Get back to work
I read about this incident in the Babe Ruth biography titled the Big Bam. Carl Mays was the son of a Methodist minister he didn’t smoke drink or chase women into the night. That made him an outsider in baseball culture which is why a lot of players including his teammates didn’t like him and he didn’t like them either. He was a hard case no nonsense pitcher who demanded that hitters stay off the plate. The incident happened during Ray Chapman‘s third at bat of the game. In Chapman’s two previous at bats he bunted twice, once for a sacrifice and once for an out. In his third at bat against Mays the count was one and one and the next pitch hit Chapman Square in the head. The ball rolled towards third and Mays fielded it thinking it was another bunt. When he turned around He saw Chapman trying to get up off the dirt with some blood coming out of his ear, then Chapman collapsed again. It was thought he never saw the ball because he never moved. The first and only time a player died from being hit with a thrown baseball!
Good info
Wow
Thanks.
Wow...such a sad story...
@Glennsten Bergkvist I was young but I was at the game! Lol 😆
Some years ago, a bronze plaque memorizing Ray Chapman was found, and properly placed in Heritage Park behind center field at Jacob’s Field (Cleveland). I happened upon it with my wife while visiting the park during gameplay. It tastefully displays not only him, but how the life of a good man transcends the game of baseball. Funny how I remember it but not one detail of the actual game...
Let's hope Ray Chapman never made a racist comment or his plaque will be removed.
He's buried at Lakeview Cemetery not far the President Garfield, the Jacobs brothers, Elliot Ness and his Son, and John Rockefeller
@@mikelmart lmao
@@PolishX Who are the Jacobs Borthers?
Jacobs brothers owned the Indians in the 90"s
Even on his death bed in 1971 a few days before his passing, Carl Mays kept insisting that he never meant to throw at Chapman during that fateful game. It was just a very sad, unfortunate accident, and it really is unfair to this day that baseball historians & analysts still feel it necessary to paint Mays as a low life scoundrel who savagely looked to bean Chapman intentionally with that pitch ☹. RIP to both great players 😇🧚♂.
No body will say they deliberately try to hurt other player in sport (except combat sport) or they will ban for life , second he just regret the outcome that Chapman Die, but don't felt guild. I dont know about you , a waitress hit her head in table today because I accidentally bump to her , did it deliberate No , did I felt guilt , bloody hell I am. Only psycho don't felt guilt when they hurt someone, let alone kill someone. There is a reason why other player dont like him.
@@anubizz3 Your analysis is extremely faulty and full of holes. First off, there are many instances over just the course of one baseball season where one player will purposely try to hurt another. Have you ever even watched a baseball game from start to finish? Pitchers throw at hitters all the time in retribution cases to "settle the score" - where one team was trying to show up another team. Also, there are brawls which occur between two teams where bullpens empty and punches are being thrown - mostly caused by players being thrown at. What do you think the intent of those punches are? They certainly aren't meant as love taps. Yet, will any player involved in a brawl come out and publicly state that they were intentionally trying to hurt the other ballplayer? Of course not! That's just plain common sense. Next, you erroneously imply that because a lot of other players don't like a certain ballplayer, it's because that ballplayer looks to intentionally hurt others. Wrong Again! Many well-known players over the course of MLB history weren't well liked by their peers, such as Roger Clemens, Bobby Bonilla, Ty Cobb, Jim Rice, Steve Sax and many others, yet none of them ever killed or seriously maimed anybody during the course of a major league ballgame. Those players weren't well liked mostly because of the attitudes they displayed towards their fellow players, and not because they purposefully looked to injure others. Finally, you stated that Mays "regretted the outcome" but didn't feel any guilt, a statement which, in and of itself, makes no sense whatsoever. It's impossible to be regretful about hurting or killing somebody else, and then not feel any guilt about it. So, in effect, you're even admitting yourself that Mays felt bad for what he did. Also, if you would have bothered reading what I wrote in my original comment, you would have seen where I stated that Mays insisted that he didn't throw at Chapman when he was on his deathbed - a few days before he succumbed. Again, common sense would dictate that - at that point - Mays would have absolutely nothing to lose by indicating that he meant to injure Chapman if that had indeed been the case. On a last note, your statement of, and I directly quote: "Only psycho don't felt guilt when they hurt someone, let alone kill someone" is totally idiotic and non-sensical. Suppose somebody is defending a family member from being attacked, or an intruder entered that person's home and that individual had to knife or gun them down in order to protect themselves and the members of their family. Are you now going to state that individual is a psychopath for killing them? Honestly dude, you're the friggin' psychopath if you truly feel that way. Either that, or you're one of those brainwashed liberals currently destroying society with their policy ideals & evil ways.
Only Carl Mays truly knows how he felt after his pitch killed Ray Chapman. The rest of us can only speculate until the end of time whether or not he felt remorse.
@@ericinMN1970 LOL That's an idiotic remark in the sense that you're stating the obvious. Of course nobody knows what truly happened - that's the whole point of the topic being analyzed for discussion in the first place. We're all putting forth our own self perceived observations using educated rationale & deductive reasoning based on the facts of a given situation. This is the same path used by any judicial system anywhere in the world. A bunch of men & women get together as jurors using the process which I described above to determine the innocence or guilt of an accused individual pertaining to a crime that he or she was charged with. If there was somehow a magic crystal ball that they had access to where they could see what actually transpired in a given case, then obviously there would be no need to go thru the whole legal routine to begin with.
@@musicoldies83 Your reply is idiotic in the sense that I didn't comment on what "truly happened". Maybe you need to work on reading and comprehension.
Mays and Babe Ruth won 4 WS titles together. They came up with the Red Sox as rookie pitchers in 1915. Boston won the WS that season although neither pitched in that Series. They won two more WS with Boston in 1916 and 1918. Boston traded both of them to the Yankees in 1919 in a fire sale for cash. They subsequently won a WS together with the Yankees in 1923 (though Mays did not pitch that Series, either). Mays finished his career with over 200 wins and ERA of 2.92. He led the AL in wins the year after this incident. The Chapman KBP (killed by pitch) probably caused the Hall of Fame not to induct Mays. Everyone hated Ty Cobb. Mays admittedly threw at Cobb once. Cobb retaliated by throwing his bat at Mays and the benches cleared. So, yes, everyone hated Mays, too.
No one liked Mays he was a grouch not even his own teammates
Cobb threw his bat at him lol
The guys lucky Cobb didn't shoot him.
Mays was a great pitcher.....should have been in the HOF
@@joemarshall4226 I agree with you. MLB brass had suspected him also of gambling on baseball during the Black Sox era scandal. All these collateral events hurt his chances.
Hockey goaltenders use to play without masks. That was pure insanity.
Yep. Even the full face fiberglass jobs from late 50's onwards didn't offer much protection, it was still insane. They basically just protected from cuts, you still felt everything almost as if you were bare faced. The protection level did get much better over time though, and some still wore the things into the '80's like Esposito, Fuhr, Lindbergh. I think the last time one was used in an NHL game was in 1989. I know Robin Lehner tried one out for pre-game warmups once, but he's def crazy. haha Said he wouldn't want to do it again.
Unfortunately, the “macho” pressure in sports always has been there. Many athletes feared ridicule if they attempted to wear protective gear.
The big change for goalies safety was BoomBoom Geoffrion making the slap shot popular in 50's and Bobby Hull (another great slapshotter) in 60's popularizing curved blades. The game Jacques Plante played in NHL when he joined after WW2 was way faster and different than it was in 1959 when he first wore his mask.
Back in that day, they didn't lift the puck so much and there were no curved sticks. They had slap shots, but scored more by ragging around in front of the crease and maybe deflecting a shot with skates and sticks; and most shots from that area were rebounds. Fast forward to the late 60s and early 70s, there are only 2 goalies not wearing masks, Gump Worsely of Minnesota; and Glenn Hall, a goalie for the St. Louis Blues. Boston goalie Gerry Cheevers's mask was festooned with squiggly black lines signifying every time his mask saved him from a scar that he added to his mask with a magic marker. Goalie leg pads were a lot smaller than today as well.
@@ronaldviens7862 I actually have a reproduction of that mask
I was hit in the face , leading off the game ( Columbia vs Harvard), I was on my way to the Baltimore Orioles rookie league. Never made it, that pitch gave me a : linear fracture of my cheekbone, concussion, and a nasal hemorrhage. My toes scrunch up when I see a MLB player get hit anyplace, but particularly the head. God bless both these guys! 😥. I have to say: guys I tear up with your heartfelt replies, thank all of you so much, and God Bless everyone here as well. Please understand I never wanted to put myself front and center. I just wanted everyone to know that I really scrunch up when I see a batter getting hit, especially in the head. Pitchers out there know what they are doing when they throw a pitch behind the hitter. Because batters are taught to back up in the batters box . Again I want to thank everyone here for your amazing responses. God bless you all guys, Joey
Oh good lord man 😦😵💫
You went to the Ivy League and you're hanging around here? I admit, I once got 750 on both parts of the old GRE, but I went to Tier III colleges. I have an excuse.
@@anonymike8280 I live in Cleveland sir, that is where I am from. Hanging around maybe.
@@joeylocognato2198 That's good explanation.
It's too bad you got hit, but it might have been a "blessing in disguise" because it's probably better you didn't waste your time trying to make it to the majors and, I assume, focused on your career instead. I presume you know that very, few guys in the rookie league ever to AAA let alone the big leagues.
I work in industrial construction, which means I sit through many safety training courses. The thing I remember the most is the saying, "many of the safety rules were written in blood". It's sad that people have to be seriously injured or killed before the governing bodies mandate personal protective equipment (PPE). I had no idea this applied to baseball Great video. Very informative.
I had a chem prof who had worked with nitrates at a refinery. On the day of the lab safety lecture, he brought in the photograph of him wearing the spider webbed safety glasses he wore in the hood when he made a mistake. It made the point and an impression.
so true, it takes a tragedy to get politicians or officials to change anything, then after years of people not getting hurt society forgets why they were there in the first place, then corporate bean counters whine about the "nanny state" and get regulations repealed, until another tragedy... around and around we go... how many times do we hear "tough guy" arm-chair fans whine about sports "getting soft" even tho a pro-football players average life span is 20 years under the average. societies NEED to be regulated.
You’re inspiring me to take action against a dangerous roadway situation that I’ve been too lazy to act on. I frequently drive on a main surface artery that posts a speed increase from 45 to 55 about 500’ BEFORE a traffic light. This is insane since it promotes flooring it just before the light may turn yellow. Then the driver will beat the yellow light rather than screech to a stop. If the opposite way driver starts a left turn having judged that the opposing vehicle is going about 45, it’s a disaster waiting to happen. Tomorrow I will file a plea with WVDOT to move the increased speed limit sign PAST the light. Thank you!
I came across a similar post on my only cruise in the Navy. It went something like, "In the Navy, the safety rules are written in blood " Decades ago when I first saw it on the Bristol County, a tank landing ship (LST), I also felt a sadness that it takes accidents or deaths to move organizations to protect their people from hazards. Some time later, I learned of the U.S. government agency, OSHA. I know many employers dread any contact with the Occupational Safety and Health Administration's inspectors. Maybe that dread has contributed to more attention being given to safety issues and even proactive approaches to guarding individual safety in workplaces over the decades. Thank you for your post and reminding me that we must never take safety for granted.
@@prisonersforprofit: "Societies NEED to be regulated." What a statement in this time of apparent Conservative dominance in politics. I agree. I tend to be more liberal than many of the loud voices railing against Big Government. I recall studying the U.S. Constitution in 7th grade and regret that I am less-informed than the citizens who were naturalized last week. Yet, I do remember a section that says, in effect, that any rights not reserved to the Federal government belong to the States to exercise as they see fit. Of course, at the time, this allowed for slavery. I'm glad the Founding Fathers drafted a dynamic document that could be amended as times change and society matures. Yet, I think we both recognize the element of human nature and that there is a need to restrain folks so no one runs rough shod over anyone else and individuals are protected under the law. I know rules and regulations can be chafing. I am not for Big Government - sprawling bureaucracy that reaches into every aspect of our lives like Big Brother in "1984." However, History shows that we flawed human beings need government to ward against oppression. Ain't it funny: throughout the World, it seems governments are the biggest oppressors of all....
There are plenty of aspects to this story that are heartbreaking. A good book on this topic is The Pitch That Killed by Mike Sowell. I recommend it.
Read it and 5 star reviewed it on Amazon. Great book. They were supposed to make a movie based on Sowell's book, but sadly never happened. Too bad because it's a great human story whether you're a baseball fan or not.
I read it many years ago. It's one of my favorite books on baseball. It inspired me to replay the 1920 American League season using APBA Baseball. The Yankees one my replay, beating out the Indians. Incidentally, Ray Chapman was injured in the replay. I sent him home where he decided to take "retirement".
Very informative. So that's why the umps keep changing the baseballs every other pitch. RIP Ray Chapman.
Rest in peace? Ray has probably been reborn somewhere by now. No doubt as a player with the "new" Cleveland Indians ( I'll never acknowledge that stupid "G" name).
@@kentduryea1741 Thanks Kent, I'm so tired of people calling them Guardians.. They will forever be the Indians to anyone who aren't offended over nothing.
@@towelman8589 It doesn't offend me personally, but that doesn't mean it's not offensive. I also have a hard time with change, and the Guardians was a poor choice. Blame the new name rather than dying on the hill with the old name.
Well, in addition to keeping the ball visible, the umps are under orders to change the ball waaay more than necessary, even to the point of creating their a supply shortage, because the MLB can then turn around and sell any ball that's been in the game, no matter how insignificantly, as a "Game Ball" and charge a premium to fans and collectors. That's why they go through like 100 - 120 balls per game.
RIP to everyone else playing in the league at that time too lol
Always sad everytime I hear about Ray Chapman.
Progressive Field in Cleveland should have been called Chapman field in memory of its former shortstop. The only major league baseball player to die for the game
Absolutely. But the Chapman family would not be able to compete with the corporate giant’s millions they are paying. Unfortunately. Money rules. I wonder if the field even has a memorial like a statue or plaque for him?
@@georgea6403 Indeed there is www.cleveland.com/livingston/2013/08/almost_a_century_after_the_pit.html
This is the real world and that did not and will not happen.
Several minor leaguers were killed by pitches....and High Schoola nd Little Leaguers died every year from thrown and batted balls.....
There was a catcher in the late 1800s who crashed into a wall chasing a foul ball and died from his injuries
I did a stat comparison one time. Walter Johnson & Carl Mays actually hit batters at a nearly identical rate. Since Walter was a nice likeable guy, and Carl Mays apparently was not, Mays got the reputation as a head hunter, while the Big Train did not.
There could be very different underlying reasons for those rates. One player may have had a control issue, or a particular pitch that tended to move or stay inside. Most of his bean balls might have been to the leg or hand. The other player may have routinely thrown high and inside; a significant number of his bean balls might have been to the upper body or head. So the reputations might be well deserved, even though the very simple math that you've done can't identify a difference.
@TheBatugan, or it could also be that Johnson had over 3500 K's while Mays had about 860 K's. 417 wins compared to 207 wins, it's not about being likeable, it's about who was the dominant pitcher period.
@@TeufelHunden605 "Nearly identical rate..." Apparently you don't know what 'rate' means.
You think like-ability was the key factor? Uh…. Ok then.
@@bryansmith9431 Good. That's what it was
Nice film. You put this together perfectly. I love the photos of Mays and Chapman. There's something mesmerizing and sinister about Mays' photo in mid pitch. It's uncanny and it reminds me of a strange piece of art depicting a war dance.
I’ve visited Chapman’s grave living in the Cleveland area. Knew some of the story. Never knew the effect on Baseball U presented here. TY so much Professor. Many Blessings cm 🙏🇺🇸
All that typing and you still cannot type out the word "you"?
Old-time Indian and Yankee fans who remembered the Mays/Chapman incident got a second shock on May 7, 1957, when Yankee Gil McDougald, at the plate, lined a pitch back at Indian pitcher Herb Score, hitting Score right in the face. He recovered and returned to pitching, but was never the same afterward, although he denied that the injury was the reason.
Pick up your cross and follow Jesus! The world is quickly headed for destruction, and sooner or later you will have to sit at the judgement seat and give an account for your actions. Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life! - Revelation 3:20. Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God tho. Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc and you should get a response. Have a blessed day!
The pinch runner who came in for Chapman would score the winning run of the game. Cleveland then got hot and went on to win the AL pennant that year by two games over the White Sox and three over the Yankees. They then went on to win the World Series over the Brooklyn Robbins 5 games to 2. (The series was a best of nine that year.) I remember when players started wearing head protection in the 1960's. Many players felt it was unmanly, but eventually saw the sense of it. Some wore protective caps under their baseball caps. Others had the hard protective helmet, but without the ear flap.
They didn’t stop the game after the deadly pitch?
@@MikeCee7 No. As I recall reading, Chapman lived through the night and died early the next morning. So no one realized the injury was fatal. Mays did turn himself into the police after hearing Chapman died, but the DA ruled it an accidental homicide, and there were no criminal charges.
Excellent homage to that era - thanks.
While the spitball was banned in 1920, those pitchers using it in previous years were "grandfathered in" and continued to use it.
Funny to think it was ok for them to spit over a ball which would be touched & fielded by other players. Just think of all those players rubbing their fingers all over their teammates spit. Weird...
@@billb3414 Guess how the balls get rubbed up for high school games when the school can't afford rubbing mud.
there was one pitcher who was not a spitballer until the grandfather clause kicked in
@@billb3414 the infielders were in on it too. They would spit tobacco juice or licorice juice into their gloves, and rub it on the ball. New balls were rarely taken out of play, and the game in question it was dusk and cloudy. Bill James wrote about it in a number of his books. Chapman likely never saw it till it was too late.
Also mays had a weird motion, basically he threw underhanded.
Submarine pitching is a lost art. Today, only seven major league pitchers use that style.
I love watching submarine pitchers go to work. In fact, I will tune into certain ballgames just to see a submarine or a knuckleball pitcher. I also wish someone like Ricky Henderson existed. The game today is exciting, but certain baseball arts are in repose.
I saw one that I recall, Pirate Kent Tekulve, in Atlanta.
Tyler Rogers of the SF Giants
@@thebaseballprofessor it's hard to have someone as fast as Ricky
its not a lost art...its just really bad for your shoulder, not as bad as side arm, but still not suggested for longevity in pitching
Ray Chapman is a relative of mine (somehow). Ancestry has him married to a distant cousin. His story is part of our family lore . . .
Ray's wife Katie was our 1st cousin twice removed!
yeah, ok.
I have watched a few of your videos and they are all well done. Excellent narration too. This from a new subscriber. Keep up the fine work.
After the deadly pitch, Carl Mays played nine more seasons in the major leagues and was highly effective when healthy. He won 27 games in 1921 and contributed to the Yankees pennant winning seasons in 1921 and 1922. One can make the argument for Carl Mays' inclusion in the Baseball Hall of Fame.
"Contributed"? He was one of the worst pitchers in the league in 1923 at 5-2 with a 6.20 ERA and he didn't even pitch in that world series. Seems like you're grasping at straws there and being a little disingenuous by even bothering to include his presence on that team without mentioning how terrible he was on that '23 team. I agree, his stats were very good when he was healthy but he stopped being healthy after 1922 and could only manage 2 full seasons out of 7 after that. The case for him being HOFamer is pretty thin in my opinion, though he did get 2.8% of the vote in 1958 so.... he's got that going for him.
Good point about 1923 (I just edited my pinned comment). I will say, however, Mays had two stellar seasons with Cinncinnati and retired from baseball with a 51.2 lifetime WAR. There are plenty of HOF pitchers with less impressive stats.
@@thebaseballprofessor You're probably right about the hall of fame stuff though. He was kinda sorta unofficially black-listed for a couple things. The Chapman thing, people thought he had a hand in throwing a world series and they say he was just a generally unpleasant person who shared little in common with his teammates outside of baseball. After looking at his contemporaries' career stats his numbers line up fairly well even when you consider how much time he missed after the '22 season. He was also a pretty good hitter, I think his career average was around .270 and they would use him as a pinch hitter sometimes on his off days.
The ball hit his head so hard that it bounced on the field and was fielded by an infielder not knowing it hit his head .
That's how the story goes. But it wasn't just any infielder... In fact, it was the pitcher (Carl Mays) that fielded the ball. But just like any historical moment, we don't know for sure if this is all true. Carl Mays must've been stupid if he didn't realize the person he pitched the ball to fell to the ground. This leads me to believe the fielding part of the story is fake.
@@billb3414 If you pause the video @ 1:42 and look at the newspaper accounts from the next day, they say Mays was the one who fielded it and threw it to first.
@@billb3414 The only stupid idiot here is you. If a pitcher hears a 'crack', he's looking for the ball. Not at the batter. You are a loser. LooHOOhooHOOhooSER!
@@billb3414 You're an idiot, billy boy.
@@billb3414 i would guess nearly every pitcher i've ever seen deliver the ball didn't have their eyes on the catcher/batter through a significant portion of their post-release movement. this video made the remark that the the collision of the ball with the batter's skull was loud and resembled the crack of a bat (i dont remember for sure about his last bit, i might have made that up). if you went through a motion and rotated away from the batter, and heard the report of the bat while you rotated, and then saw the ball rolling on the field, i could see fielding it and throwing out the batter. if that was me, i'm guessing the thing that would have stopped me was aiming for a throw to 1st but not seeing a runner.
I had a friend that was catching at Ohio State in the 1900s, the pitcher hit a batter in the chest and he died on the spot. The pitcher and catcher walked off and never played another game again. My friend became a doctor.
You had a friend playing in the 1900's? Are you 110?
@@cameronevanstheanalogueall7729 1990s are in the 1900s. So are the 1980s, 1970s, etc. Awkwardly stated but accurate
No disrespect here, but how old are you man? If you were alive in the 1900’s and you mean that to be 1900-1910 you’ve got some incredible genetics!
Ok everyone so the way this is phrased makes it sound like this commenter was the same age as his friend. But I've become friends with people 50+ years older than me, mostly through my jobs in restaurants. You befriend regulars no matter their age. So his friend was probably in their 20's in the 1900's and if they lived to 80 they would have been alive in the through the 60's. And if the commenter was in his 20's or 30's at that time then he would be in his late 70's or 80's now. Definitely feasible. Probably unlikely, but not technically impossible.
@@piercehubbard4086 Nice sarcasm. Almost got me. You could so easily get folks by telling them your folks are so old they were born in the 1900s. If you are 23+ then you could say that about yourself.
Very well produced short. It grabbed even a casual observer of baseball like me.
Totally unexpected. Nice work. I had an entirely different expectation about how baseball would've changed over this incident. Again, nice work.
Having been to MLB games for the past 45 years, the one thing that surprises me is that more fans haven't been killed by foul balls. My god, some of the foul balls go into the stands at over 100 MPH. Us baseball fans know some situations: left handed hitter- can slice a line drive foul ball to the left side over the third base dougout. If that ball hits you in the head when you're not looking....... Anyways, good luck everybody!
People don't care about the games and they don't pay attention, that's why they put up the screens down the lines. Can't catch a ball now. I think it sucks.
@@lloydclaussen3925 You're full of crap. They extended the screens a bit further up the lines, but plenty of foul balls still get into the stands.
Yeats ago...ca 1976 or 77 I knew a girl who had the worst crush on Bucky Dent. Went to the stadium one night just to see him in action...she met him...but not the way she wanted to...she gitbhitbin the face when his bat flew out of his hand and hit her in the face broke a bone...or two...he was a standup guy...went to the hospital and apologized..she. despite her injuries was thrilled...
Those screaming foul balls usually have a mean slice.
@@cbroz7492 Sad but heartening story. Bucky was a standup guy!
Gotta say this is my favorite baseball channel ! Thank u for the in depth history !!!!! My favorite players ( to many to list but the to tier are :) mickey mantle , Nolan Ryan ,cal ripken Jr, Rickey Henderson , Greg maddux , Mike musina , Reggie Jackson , and Tony Gwen / Kirby Puckett (tied). I enjoyed the Nolan Ryan back history I saw and hope to see others on my favorite players ! Keep up the great work !!!! I'm trying to keep up with sports again now that my life is allowing the time again. I hope to play catch with my toddler son when his motor skills develop better. 😅
Thanks for the comment, Mike! It makes me happy to hear about a father planning to play catch with his son. :)
I did not know that! Thanks for putting this together.
It’s amazing that this man’s death did not much to add safety to baseball but rather introduced the live ball era to Major League Baseball, giving us legends like Babe Ruth, Lou Geihrig, and Rogers Hornsby to cheer on and watch what would have been impossible a year earlier with dirty doctored baseballs.
As a cricket player and fan I can see the parallels in our sports. Back in day batters had no helmets and fast bowlers would, and still do, routinely bowl at the batters head. As far as I know, there have been two instances where batters have been killed in this way.
Not too long ago a cricket player was killed while wearing a helmet.
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If you ever hold a baseball and a cricket ball you notice the difference. Baseballs are rock hard verses the cricket ball which is softer and more giving. At least the cricket ball that I have held. I grew up on baseball.
@@lazarochavez1 When a cricket ball is new at the beginning of the innings it is very hard, then softens during play.
@@lazarochavez1 A new cricket ball is typically significantly harder as well as 10% heavier than a baseball.
You can’t blame Carl Mays. In the time he played, balls weren’t changed every pitch like today. Batters wore no protective helmets. Pitchers threw spitballs, some players (Ty Cobb)sharpened their spikes, batters used corked bats, etc. Tony Conigliaro was hit in the head in the ‘60’s, & it ended his career. That’s when they began wearing helmets with side shields. Same types of things happened in football too, & the gear they wear now is like armor compared to what they wore way back in those early times.
I'm Australian and have never had any particular interest in baseball (I'm a cricket man), but I watched the Ken Burns Baseball documentary series and absolutely loved it. This incident was brilliantly covered in that series but this was a deeper dive into it. Thank you.
Mays was my great great great (great? Maybe? Cant remember how many) grandfather. Have some cool photos of him. I met Bobby Doer before he passed away, he is a HOF Red Sox player that played with Mays and he lived in Oregon, where I live, and he told us stories of him and Carl Mays hunting in John Day, Eastern Oregon. Bobby also told me how he would always cast a vote to induct Carl Mays into the HOF given he was a phenomenal pitcher, but with Bobby passing away, it's likely Mays will never get in. There's also a family story of a great great grandmother that played with Babe Ruth's daughter underneath Yankee stadium. Not sure if it is true, but it's been told around the family for ever. Carl also lost the vast majority of his wealth during the great depression and he had an unrivaled hatred for Ty Cobb, who felt the same about Mays.
Fascinating stuff. I assume Bobby liked your ancestor, Mr Mays? Did he say anything about his personality?
@@joemarshall4226 They were great friends. They often hunted in eastern Oregon together, I remember a story he told where they both tagged a buck in the same season, and I think the same day. He was an advocate to put Mays in the HOF, so he truley appreciated him and others talk about how nice Mays was as well!
@@coryfoster6004 The best way to judge a pitcher's career is by his ERA+ and the number of inning he pitched. Carl had a 119 ERA+ (19% better than the average pitcher), and he pitched just over 3000 innings. Similar toe David Cone and Jimmy Key who had similar ERA+ numbers (121 and 123) but fewer innings pitched (2898 and just over 2500) Their ERA+ numbers are higher than the following pitchers: Bert Blyleven, Gaylord Perry, Catfish Hunter, Phil Neikro, Jim Bunning, Steve Carlton,Warren Spahn (119 also), Dennis Eckersley, Red Ruffing, Jack Morris, Pud Galvin, Don Sutton, Jim Kaat, Jesse Haines, Jack Chesbro, Nolan Ryan, Chief Bender, Waite Hoyt,Robin Roberts, Candy Cummings, Eppa Rixey, Ferguson Jenkins, Vic Willis, Ted Lyons and Tom Glavine....now some of these pitchers had way more IP, but some had fewer, so there's a case for Carl as a borderline Candidate for the Hall of Fame.
This is my first time coming across your channel. I subscribed. Thank you.
Loved the history of this pitch by Carl Mays that changed the game of baseball forever as you tell it. You yourself are a great story teller, a professional historian, who as you say does baseball history for fun. I also like that you site your sources on screen in your videos. My only addition to your story would be that Ray Chapman more than crowded the plate while hitting. “Ray Chapman hugged plate so closely when he batted that his head was usually in the strike zone.” Source: 20th Century Baseball Chronicle, 1992. This in no way dimensions your video or history of this pitch in 1920 that forever changed baseball. My dad bought that book for me at Cooperstown in ‘92. I was so intrigued by your video I pulled it off my bookshelf and read about it. Fascinating history. Foreign substances placed on baseballs were forbidden that year. More importantly just as you tell the story clean baseballs were mandatory during the game because of the unfortunate death of Chapman. Now to watch the rest of your baseball video. Can’t wait to see the 1950’s as low point for MLB. Thanks for getting me to reread a book I always treasured given to me by late father, a man who loved baseball.
Why do you think 1950s was the.low point in baseball
In the wee wee early 1980’s, I broke my arm. As I waited in the emergency room a kid came in by ambulance. He had gotten hit in the mouth, which pushed his braces up into his mouth. Why they had not given him painkillers is beyond me, and to make it worse they had to wait on a dental surgeon. Poor guy was in so much pain.
Just because someone isn't considered popular doesn't mean that they are a bad person. Nor are popular people necessarily virtuous.
Man this is great footage. Mays really went down low to fling his pitches. I knew he was a submarine pitcher and always had the curiosity of what his motion was like. Well, a mystery no more but damn I can see why Chapman never saw the pitch coming.
Dan Quisenberry from the Kansas City Royals was the same submarine style pitcher and was hard to hit off. I always wondered how different the damage to your elbow was for a submarine style pitcher versus a regular overhand. I think overhand pitcher would have more shoulder rotator cuff , upper arm issues and a submarine pitcher would probably have more issues in the elbow but that's just my opinion I'm sure there's some kind of damage after 10 to 12 years of pitching that style at 95 to 98 mph regularly
@@mikejacobs2886 Once the base salary for a ballplayer went over a million per, I stopped worrying the wear and tear. Quisenberry died of brain cancer at the age of 45. Obviously not baseball related. Looking at the pictures, I seriously doubt he used steroids.
@@anonymike8280 No he was definitely not using steroids. I'm not sure that steroids were even around in the early 80's. Strange that Quisenberry died of a brain tumor. I know that the Rpyals head coach of Quisenberry ( Dick Howser) also died from a brain tumor in 1985. 1 year after Quisenberry.
@@mikejacobs2886 Steroids have been around since at least the 1930s. purified testosterone since the 1890s, crude testosterone earlier than that. Then there's the expedient of mountain oysters. Braise lightly, chew thoroughly. However, Quisenberry was in no way built like a steroid user. Ballplayers from the 50s and 60s knew about steroids but they were not widely available. They used greenies and white crosses (amphetamines). These did not make you a better athlete like steroids will, but there is much to be said for staying alert and avoiding creeping weight gain. One of the effects of PED use is enhanced performance. When you see enhanced performance, unfortunately, you have to consider the possibility of PED use. That's not just today, but going way back. I suspect, but cannot prove, that extreme consistency from year year is another possible indication of PED use, especially if performance does not fall off past the early 30s. Athletes have always sought an edge and their psychology is that there achievements are earned even they cheat. One of the few who ever was honest was Jose Canseco. He straight out said once, without steroids he wouldn't even have been in the big leagues.
@@anonymike8280 Wow those are some interesting facts, thank you for sharing that. I know alot of synthetic drugs were have now were originally Parr of the early German chemists. Germany actually synthesized Amphetamines to keep their soldiers alert. All you need to see about steroids is to look at Barry Bonds before and after. So obvious. Huge muscular gain. Thanks for the information.
Rest In Peace
This is documented in a great book called "The Pitch that Killed".
Also kind of crazy to consider they didn’t think of batters wearing any sort of head protection like a helmet especially since during the dead ball era pitches were more erratic with their movement and harder to see.
There was a time that they didn’t even play with gloves
I never knew about this. I just thought players always wore helmets when at bat. Thanks for the history lesson.
There was a time they didn’t even play with gloves
Fine video, short and sweet but full of informative value.
Dr. Harold Klawans, in his book "Why Michael Couldn't Hit and Other Tales of the Neurology of Sport," offers a brief analysis of the fatal pitch, explaining that Chapman never really saw the pitch because the visual cells that saw the submarine delivery hadn't learned to trigger any reflexes.
Sonar helps with identifying submarines.
And a dirty ball kept in play too long
Rest in peace Mr Chapman
I just read up on Mickey Mantle a while a go. Came across something called the batter's eye. That patch of greenery or dark colored seating right behind the center field such that the batter can see the ball. I didn't recall when it came out but I'm sure this incident was influential.
I've been a baseball fan for over 40 years. I had no idea about this. Thx for the great intel.
Another change resulting from this incident was that centerfield fences have no advertisements and are painted green. This allows the batter to better see the ball as it’s delivered. Not sure when the change was made or if it was directly in response to Chapman’s death, but player safety became a higher priority after 1920.
Excellent presentation of a far reaching incident in Baseball History. Thank you.
Merci for this. I went to our Swiss sports ground and heard the crack of the baseball, so headed over to watch. The school had their electives Gym class on the baseball diamong throwing and batting. I tried to give some pointers at the young men. They didn't care to listen. One kid was standing facing the pitcher and tried to slash at the ball. His teacher had told him to turn with his side, but he didn't care. The trouble is that they teach baseball and not softball, and even girls are enrolled. Western Switzerland is not a breeding ground for baseball talent.
i'm surprised anyone plays baseball in switzerland.
Interesting thought process. "Someone got killed by getting nailed in the head with a pitch. Should we make everyone wear protective headgear?" "Nah, let's just make the ball easier to see so they can move out of the way." Apparently it helped a little?
I have to think that not requiring helmets might also have been that they probably would have been made of heavy, padded leather or of metal. Not very comfortable. The lightweight plastic helmet didn't exist at the time.
@@patrickmorgan4006 A very good point! Didn't think of that.
ruth taking a cross step into his swing is crazy. was his timing just that good or pitchers timing that predictable. i think for sure they throw at someones head if they take a cross step like that these days. that makes wild crazy power
Pitchers wouldn't throw at a batter's head if they did a cross-step, they would simply change the timing of their delivery and make the batter look foolish
I saw him pitch on old baseball films. Quite a talent and surely a one of a kind. Self made talent.
Not so fun fact: almost a year to the day before he was killed Ray Chapman was struck by lightning during a game. The lightning struck pitcher Ray Caldwell then the catcher and Chapman. It was the ninth inning and Caldwell finished the game. Just found out Caldwell was one of the starting pitchers at the opening of both Fenway Park and Ebbets Field.
Thanks for sharing your research
A very fine little bit of history, sadly that's how a lot of history is made. RIP . 👍
You should do a video about Adam Greenberg. The Cubs player who was hit in the head and ended his career with only one at bat. Even though he tried a comeback later he was never able to play the game fully.
There are other examples, like Tony Conigliaro and Dickie Thon to name two.
I've always said, that UNFORTUNATELY, Tragedy must occur, Before ANY change is ever made 😢
Yes agreed, rules and regulations are often written in blood.
Your excellent video has spawned some excellent baseball talk in the comments. Great job.
Baseball outlawed pitcher's using foreign substances on the baseball in February of 1920, before the season started. That rule was not a direct result of the Chapman beaning, which occurred in August of that year. Using only clean baseballs was the major rule change that was a direct result of Chapman's death.
My brother's father-in-law was playing an exhibition football game. He was in a semi-pro football team and he said he was just rock hard muscle. The other football team was an informal non-professional football team, really just a bunch of guys that liked to play football. At the kickoff, my brother's father-in-law tackled the kickoff receiver. He admitted it was a hard hit because that's how you play in semi-pro football. All of the players on that team wanted to go to the pros, so they played at their top form. Well, the guy that returned the kickoff, was severely hurt and broke his back. He was paralyzed from the neck down. My brother's father-in-law felt guilty for the rest of his life.
Ever see Ted Abernathy's (the late 60s /early 70s) submarine curve? Three foot horizontal curve. The epitome of the high school curve ball. All horizontal break and no vertical movement. Terrorized rookies. Veterans hit them into the cheap seats.
David Cone had a similar pitch, from low side arm. They called it "The bolero".
Fred Lieb was a noted baseball scorer, historian, and writer; his book "Baseball As I Have Known It" covers over 70 years of his observations. I just looked it up. He said Tillinghaust Huston, the owner of the Yankees during the 1920s, was in Florida one year with Wilbert Robinson and some other executives, and after a bout of drinking rum and Coca-cola, Huston tried to share a story with Lieb, but Robinson kept interfering. At last, the story came out: Huston said that Mays threw games in both the 1921 and 1922 Series. There also was an actor who independently shared this information with Lieb: that Mays's wife was signaling him with a white handkerchief from the stands that the fix was on (in cash). When Lieb researched the results of the innings in question, it was clear that the NY Giants had suddenly found themselves getting base hits whereupon before, they were unable to get anything against Mays.
1:24 Notice how the shadow hangs over home plate area as a potential distraction.
Interesting fact..Chapman was replace by Joe Sewell who was inducted to the HALL OF FAME and was the toughest player in baseball history to strikeout.
Growing up we had one brother hit another brother in the head with a snowball and it killed him. Be careful what and where you throw.
woah...that is really sad.....
Did not know any of this. Great video.
Great video. Sad story. I appreciate many of the comments below also.
Great but very sad story. Rip Chapman
I think Tony Conigliaro had his career ended by a pitch to the face. I think he played for the Red Sox. I was a kid and don't remember exactly the details of that,though.
Tony C was on a HOF trajectory when he was hit. He eventually came back but was never close to being the same player. He died in his 40s. IMO, he was beaned in retaliation for the headhunting that Jim Lonborg regularly did as a Red Sox player that year.
@@ohger1 Thanks for refreshing my memory. I was not aware that he died so young.
@@ohger1 Hey J.D. Is that when they started putting ear flaps on batting helmets?
@@jameschancey251 I don't recall, but it was in that era I believe.
The last baseball game I ever played was once I was 15 and took a fastball directly to the temple and got a concussion. That was the last pitch I ever took. I'm 43 now and until I watched this video I've been telling myself for decades "how could i have not seen the ball?" It always bothered me how I saw the pitcher go through his motion and I remember thinking "where's the ball?" right before it hit me in the head. Watching this video makes me feel a little better that a professional also didn't see a dirty ball on a bad weather day.
Thanks for sharing. I got hit in the face playing catch once. I can only imagine what it would've felt like 25 mph faster.
Great segment!
The fact that there were no lights 🚥 at the Polo Grounds at the time didn't help matters any. (Night baseball at the Polo Grounds wouldn't be played until 1940).
Imagining the cloudy, late afternoon skies really puts things into perspective.
First time watching it was a good video thank you
It’s like Chapman unwillingly gave his life to save Baseball. May he Rest In Peace.
Unwittingly anyway.
@@majorpuggington that’s probably what I was trying to say lol
@@cougar2013 It’s stunning to me , if not arrogant on the part of MLB , that it took , what..almost 50 blankety blank years for MLB to wake up to the danger of a rock coming to within a very few inches of your head; that could kill you , before they FINALLY started with helmets ??!! And R.I.P. ✝️ Tony Conigliaro a great guy and a great team player of the Boston Red Sox, who died in 1990, - he was hit in the face by a fastball in 1967, and suffered from the effects of this until his untimely passing at the young age of 45. BTW, why were all the baseball columnists and radio announcers silent and ineffective , during all those long years ? !
Interesting story... thank you!
This is what made us transition from the dead ball to the live ball Era. Even though you look guys like Ruth and ty cobb the numbers they put up during the dead Era is still mind blowing.
Excellent video, thank you.
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the defining moment from the dead ball (no pun intended) era to the modern game era.
I had never heard of this. I’ve watched Ken Burns’ Baseball several times but don’t recall this being mentioned.
Watching the Burns documentary you'd never know baseball was played outside of Boston and New York.
@@mikegeither7785 ToughShit. NYC is what matters.
@@TheBatugan77 then play by your got-damn self, all everything.
Subscribed... cool channel... Red Sox and Tony Canigliaro fan
Why have I never heard of this until now this changed everything
RIP that’s messed up
That footage of Ruth looked like he was running into the pitch.
They have implemented a lot of rules that have made the game safer
I’m confused by the Babe Ruth reference… Was the change in the number of Ruth’s homers that year bigger than the average change for other players//teams?
Not into sports but this story touched me somehow, thank you.
The "livelier ball" ie., cork-centered ball, had already been is use for about ten years previous to Ruth's Home Run pace.
Great video! Thank you!
Protective headgear in MLB became mandatory in the late 1950s, not the 70s.
1971 In 1971, Major League Baseball made helmets mandatory, though some veterans continued to wear cloth caps with liners under a grandfather clause. They included Norm Cash, Bob Montgomery and Tony Taylor.Feb 14, 2022 Provided by Google
@@jimmeeks320 Yeah, I read that. But I also read that the NL passed a league rule in 1956 that made protective headgear for batters mandatory. The rule then being adopted in 1958 by the AL. I know for a fact having lived through the 70s that no team in MLB was sending players to bat without headgear in 1970. And if you look at film from the 60s' only Norm Cash and a few others were wearing that insert. Otherwise it was helmets.
@@hiramnoone I remember that the late 70s early 80s they first started requiring earflaps on helmets. Seems to me that there was a grandfather clause and Pete Rose was the last player to wear a helmet without earflaps.
@@big8dog887 Ear flaps were mandatory for rookies only, and optional after that first year is the way it was originally set up. Not sure if it's still that way, but seems like most hitters wear the helmet with the flap. Some even with the flap extending past the jaw. Plus all kinds of other protective devices, on elbows shins and insteps so that some of these guys go up there looking like they're wearing suits of armor. Times have certainly changed in that regard since 1920.
We called that a sling shot delivery in fastpitch softball. How that was considered legal even then boggles my mind.
Great video an even better background music…👍
So sad that something that tragic change the game forever in a better way
Cricket has the added ingredient that the ball mostly hits the pitch before the batter plays his shot! For it to work the pitch has to be perfectly flat. There was an infamous Test match in the West Indies, early 1990s, where the pitch was awful and the ball was flying all over the place. Game was abandoned after an hour or two, both teams agreed it was a danger to life and limb!
Sad story.
You didn't have to ask me to subscribe. I like your style and your presentation.
There was also the case of Manny Senerchia, who played third base for the Pittsburgh Pirates; was beaned in 1952. He was unconscious for an hour. They carried him off. MLB got more behind plastic helmets after that.
The thing is, you have to start your swing before the ball is released in pro ball if its a fast ball. Part of the batters swing calculations are based on the pitchers body motions. Having a dirty ball will make the final calculation harder though.