Michael Jackson's accusers describe graphic details of alleged abuse
Two men who say Michael Jackson sexually abused them as children are opening up about their experiences with the pop icon. Wade Robson and James Safechuck are featured in an explosive new documentary premiering Sunday on HBO. Both men also sued the Jackson estate, but their lawsuits were dismissed because of the statute of limitations. They are appealing. Jackson always denied any inappropriate behavior with children. Robson and Safechuck tell "CBS This Morning" co-host Gayle King about their relationships with Jackson, including very graphic allegations of abuse that some viewers may find disturbing.
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It's easy to accuse a dead man who can't defend himself.
ksr622002 its also easy to defend someone who’s dead. Exactly what you’re doing...
Aaron Horowitz it's easy bcs there's actually proof he's innocent. it easy to believe one sided documentary with literally no proof.
B B He never sleeped with kids he slept on the floor. Many off tjose kids who met him who are now adults said he was a nice guy and didnt touch him even one off them denied to be in the documentary and 14 times he was proven innocent, 10 years investigated by the FBI+ The 1st kid who accused him was brainwashed by his dad. He admitted himself and said he was a nice guy and the dad was arrested for it he just wanted money
Glory Legendary Manchester United EXACTLY. but people ain't ready for that conversation.
Glory Legendary Manchester United And BTW, Chandler never admitted he was brainwashed by his father. And MJ settled for 20 million dollars out of court because the lawyers were afraid he would be convicted if the case was taken to court.
James said he was abused from 1988 to 1992 (remember that) -He said he was abused alot in the neverland train station,but the train station was built in 1993 and it opened in 1994 -He said he was abused after the grammys show in 1989 in New York,But that show was in Los Angeles and michael didnt perform grammys that year -He said he was abused on a trip to euro disney in 1988,but euro disney opened its doors in 1992 -Remember that the FBI investigated michael for 10 years and they found NOTHING And to think with an open mind why would they sue the king of pop 10 years after his death for 100 Million dollars Haters and trolls please investigate better
You must know, haters would only hear the lias. Like Tom Sneddon.
yeah the grammys in 1989 is the 31st annual grammy awards and it was held in Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles, euro disney opened on 12 April 1992
I appreciate you
What about that maid who came forward? We don’t really know the truth, but these men coming out with those stories, it takes courage to do that, and even if it’s something they made up wouldn’t it make more sense to remain anonymous? But these men bravely put their faces out there for sexual abuse of a minor awareness to families who might just trust a stranger with their kids.
PREACH MY BOY 😭❤️
I dont understand leaving your kid with a stranger rich or poor.
Mj targeted weak families. None of the numerous victims ever had a strong father present. What manly man father would ever say "alright son go cuddle up with Mike and I'll see you in a few weeks."
I don't understand all the people giving MJ a pass. It's ludicrous to me. Just because he's gone? People still view him as a hero and they absolutely shouldn't. Dude was a straight up creep.
Exactly
Right? If Michael as molesting them it was just as much the parent presents fault. My mom was a single mom and would never have let me have a sleepover with any adult, period.
@@joea.9969 I deal with a lot of litigation that pertains to pptouchers. even a homeowner who isn't the perpetrator being liable for negligence etc etc. number one rule we tell people is no sleepovers prior to high school EVER even with "trusted" people because even they don't know about their harmless 20 year old nephew they look at with rose colored glasses and a million other things
I think the difficult thing is knowing that this could be as true as it could be completely untrue. It’s sad because there is a victim and they deserve the right outcome. If what they said happen is true I also think the parents should be responsible. You can’t let your kid stay over with a grown man.
If the grown man was the most famous person in the world I don't think they would be worried
Leaving neverland has been debunked and that have been caught lying many times. They also have different versions of their story. They claim to be abused in places that didn’t even exist at the time. And suggest that Brett Barnes and maculey caulkin were also molested. Brett Barnes sued hbo because he didn’t want to be involved in this mockumentry. And Michael Jackson niece Brandi even stated she dated wade but that wasn’t mentioned in the doc because it would ruin their whole story.
@@WoockerSocket2they should be extremely worried, all that money and power should make you afraid
so u gon find sum way to still defend MJ
I was molested as a kid. Not once ever even thought how can I sue. Most men usually don't even want to talk about it and want to put it behind them. Never have I met another man that was molested trying to be compensated or profiting off it.
Y’all really waited for this man to die to switch up.
Have you ever been sexually abused do you know how hard it is to speak about Michael probably told them not to say anything and they are basically trapped in a golden cage YALL KNOW MICHEAL WAS GAY
@@Aaliyahhh.S girl stf up
@@Aaliyahhh.S girl bye-
@@Aaliyahhh.S 🙄🤦🏽♀️
@@Aaliyahhh.S wtf do you mean probably? You didn’t know him
The parents just wanted money who would leave their 7 yr old wit a 30 yr old man it's just the money fam
right?
@@jodiefinney5072 don't be naive
I was surprised when I found out that Michael Jackson actually abused Jordy. But credit goes to MJ's attorney for telling the truth.
Angel Morales true
@@kulwantdhaliwal1445 liar
I don’t trust any grown man who wants to be around little boys. Creepy
U love assuming don’t u?
You are a normal human being. Mjs fans are creeps
@@tammymcinerney7153you’re ignoring his creepiness because he’s Michael Jackson
Thats creepy blame the paremts
Them in front of the Camera: 😢 Them When the Cameras turned off: 🤑
Yep
Interesting. But it also makes me wonder what Michael was like with the cameras off 🤔
@@thl205the exact same person bruh
@@thl205it’s crazy the amount of kids that were over at his house in his life and yet only like 5 (if that) have said he did anything to them. 1s family who got the settlement won’t talk to any media about it and to add to this who settles for money over your kid for things like this happening to them? I’d want that guy in jail no money is settling the mental of my kid for the rest of his life, 2nd went to trial with it and lost, 3rd and 4th are 2 guys who’s careers never took off and 30 years later are now all of a sudden against him seeing that the estate is worth well over 1 billion dollars. Those are only 4 I can think of
preach
Damn can we just like pull out a lie detector test cuz I would really wanna see what happens
The man requested for small children to stay with him at his private estate. If you walked up on me in the middle of the woods with a person bound and gagged in my trunk, a bag of lyme, and a shovel, would you wonder what I was doing?
@@modernsavage2584 ??...
It exist no lie detectors.
Rightttttt
@DR. KIA DAVIS THE PEDOPHILE EXPOSING BOUNTY HUNTER Stop with your blatant lies! I can't believe people like you exist!!!
As an abuse survivor, this is outraging. I never really was into MJ but I can safely say he is innocent. Their story’s are unbeleivable and change every time.
@Realist but yet I bet you wouldn't say the similar thing about Elvis or Harvey wouldn't you? your just as deluded and polluted as these 2 so called men.
@Realist and you ignoring the fact that Elvis, Harvey, and Drake did do all of that stuff that they did and you going by your "Realist" name your is pretty contradicting because your far from real. your no different from the media and the tabloid junkies of America, and the wacko jacko jazz is really getting old.
@Realist you sound stupid anyone can sleep in a bed with kids there’s nothing wrong with that he loved them like his own kids
@Realist grown people sleep in bed with little kids it’s not a problem .... everyone sleep in a Grown person bed before so don’t sit here and act like you haven’t or never heard no one do that before ... but i forgot since it’s Michael Jackson it’s not okay ...
@Realist Can you not see that the accusers were money hungry? On the days that Wade and James claimed they got molested mj was on tour. Wade at this time was also broke, and what better way to make money than accusing someone else for what they never did, right? And so he filed a lawsuit against the estate and reported that he got molested. Watch square one before you start spitting your nonsense.
I was abused as a child and NO AMOUNT of money would help the years of suffering I’ve been through
I can understand its a universal problem same happened to ms
Same; and, agreed. I wish you the very best!
God will help you 🙏
Do yo believe their story? is it possible to remember these things so many year after?
Ya but men are different we are easily distracted and at the end of the day I bet you Michael told them he would pay them one day and take care of them financially so in their defense! No amount of money Michael ever had was worth these two kids innocence and that’s facts. They can’t go to court and give him direct justice so bother his estate financially is about of a middle finger. Also I was molested by my uncle as a kid and there’s just a energy these men have that I feel that I know Michael did stuff to them but with his massive fame not even you or I can fathom the reality of MJ doing this. Btw look up jimmy safechuck and Michael Jackson and then look up Michael Jackson with a specific woman and there’s more pics of Michael and jimmy together than there is with any other woman.
No matter how rich or friendly someone is, dont allow them access to your child.
The Ped Pusher know Wade Robson's MOTHER OLD lost interview exposes Wade's lies Wade's mother's interview gives away their lies of WHY they are SUING NOW. It's called GREED. I hope Mez plays this to JURORS the mother's OLD interview on my cha,,nnel. 🤣 1. Joy Robson said they couldn't pay rent for 8 YEARS after moving to California. That's 1990 to 1997 or 1998. She couldn't PAY RENT and she complained that the MJ videos that Wade was in DIDN'T PAY ENOUGH. It proves THEY WERE NOT PAID OFF to "keep silent" even during that MASSIVE criminal investigation that had the entire world news media involved. 2. Wade Robson's gave his timeline of abuse from age 7 to age 14. The timeline proves it as well from Joy's interview because it intersects her deposition of being ANGRY that Michael forgot to call a 9 year old when Michael was out the country on his DANGEROUS TOUR. The 1st leg of that tour was June 17, 1992 to December 31, 1992 when Wade would have been 9 and just turned 10 in September 17, 1992 as he was born September 17, 1988. If MJ was having "sex" with him there is NO WAY he would be waiting for a man doing that to call him. And the Chandler investigation started on August 17, 1993 and here's THE CONFLICT. Based on Wade and James own LIES, MJ would have moved on from him at this point because he would have met the Chandler's at the beginning of 1993. Right?? Why would he need Wade. 🤣Using their own lies of moved on to the "next one." 3. When the August 17, 1993 investigation started, Wade Robson would have been 10 going on 11 in September. And in his interview, he stated MJ wold never do anything like that and he knew that for a "Fact." He also called it "Sick" which means HE UNDERSTOOD what it was. SICK! 5:01 He was very EMPHATIC using words like "SICK" in describing the thought of a boy molested. So he understood what it was even at age 10 about to turn 11. And he said he knew for A "FACT" Michael wouldn't do anything like that.
He's innocent
@@rose_blue1 Of course he is as stated by Wade and his family in 1993. Greed makes one LIE.
You have no idea what you're talking about 😡 Michael will never hurt a kid and you know that so leave him alone
@@janelmurden3388 I think the point OP is trying to make is that regardless if MJ was an ab*ser or not, parents shouldn't just leave their kids in the hands of a total stranger, a grown man. In this perspective, the parents look completely negligent and silly.
Stevie Wonder made a statement today about the situation. "I've known Michael Jackson for years and haven't seen him touch children once". Reliable source
Bruh 💀💀💀
Bro Stevie wonder can’t see what are you saying 😅
Link? Please :)
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@angeliclydark4248 reread the comment.
The parents probably left their kids with Michael because they trusted him but they used Michaels innocence and love for kids against him and that would make it more believable that he abused them
Saffron Smith who in there right mind would leave there children. The parents were just incredibly stupid.
@@joeywalker2061 He was proven innocent everytime and wade Robson the guy who is now accusing him defended him before when he was alive yet after he died he now says that he was sexually abused. Wade Robson is clearly a bullshiter with no evidence and the other guy has no evidence either.
Joey Walker young boys.. or young girls and boys and parents and uncles and aunts. Sometimes only adults, sometimes no adults. Pick one lane bro.
Joey Walker he didn’t sleep in the bed. He slept on the floor. His adult friends were always with him
@@takagalore exactly...
I relate to them. When I was a kid I coudn't tell it was abuse. It didin't hurt or made me feel bad, only confused a lil bit. But as you grow and start understending things a little better you can see the demage. When you're a kid you tend to believe what adults tell you and that's what makes child abuse so easy to cover.
Real victims don’t VOLUNTARILY go to court and DEFEND their so-called “abuser”. Real victims don’t PUBLICLY defend their “so-called” abuser with Tributes even 10 years after his death. Real victims don’t want to get married to his fiancé at his so-called “abuser’s” ranch because it was a place of beauty & solitude. Real victims don’t do the epilogue in a book about your so-called “abuser” after his death and say “ he was pure and a great person”. Stop with YOUR excuses for these 40 year old liars and extortionists. I would never defend ANYONE supposedly “abused” me 100s of times; I don’t give a damn if it was my brother, father or mother. I’m sick of people like you giving these two 40 year old entitled MEN an EXCUSE for lying on a deceased man , when they didn’t do when he was alive . Their opportunity was on the WITNESS stand. They are now lying for MONEY, not justice.
He would have come out a lot sooner if this was the case he continued to defend michael until he was old.
@@BundaDestroyer590 Come out sooner to sue for a billion dollars??? Does that sound rationale to you. If this was Jussie Smollet you call him out but this is why WHITE privilege allows James and Wade to get away with their extortion CRIMES.
Wade was already a fully grown man when he defended MJ during the trials
@@mjmedia09returns you need to look at the indisputable facts instead of making vague arguments. One fact, which is blatant evidence, is that Jackson suffered from the skin discoloration disease vitiligo so Jordie Chandler was asked to draw a picture of the markings on the underside of Jackson’s penis. His drawings were sealed in an envelope. A few months later, investigators photographed Jackson’s genitalia. The photographs matched Chandler’s drawings.
Seems like a fake story 😢
I normally side with the victims but this doesn’t feel right. I’m not even a big Jackson fan but I’ve researched this a lot and I believe Micheal had a beautiful heart and they used that against him.
Agreed thank you 🙏🏽 also did you know James is an actor in real life 😐
Saffron xox haha! not anymore lol
But can you explain when he admitted he slept with the children in the SAME bed ..?
Jake Paul the bed cannot be proof of anything. any view of the bed, good or bad, is subjective. you should research pizzagate and Hollywood elites, then you’ll understand why Michael got accused. he was a scapegoat. actually, if you would like, I could tell you some stuff about it.
SAVE THE CHILDREN I know about pizza gate but could you tell me more about him being a scapegoat
This proves adults are sick enough to place a child in a situation just to get money. Not saying it did/didn't happen, just that the parents of these children knew what they were doing.
Don’t b thick u can’t see these 2 are lying ffs Wade so gives it away going to court to say he never touched u. Oh and what about the train station that was not built u know what Micheal is the victim in this and in death sad people do any thing just for money
U should research but making assumptions
They knew Michael was a safe person & would not harm anyone.
exactly if it was real why would you demand money? i think MJ was innocent i think he was framed, i think MJ was just one of those victims who never had a childhood and because of this he long to be a child again, this things happen all around the world, people who had tough childhood or in MJ's case people who never got be child have the desire to be childlike.
These guys are just after money
*Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons* ~Michael Jackson~
So he spent a lot of time sprinting?
@@lucasgingerbreadman1658 It's a quote
@@SPZ909 funny....
Stupid quote
Michael Jackson beat it to little kids
These two are lying through their teeth
Im so glad ppl in the comments aren't blind
It's clear to see. Michael was a predator
@@RoadsidePicnic your so quick to believe anything just be quiet and leave
@@destinymonique2683 lol y’all are so quick to believe that mj was innocent, u should leave too
@@destinymonique2683 I'm believing Michael's own words in the interview. It is inappropriate to have children in your bed period. No normal person thinks that's ok
@Your Move exactly my point I shared a bed with my grandma and my older brother nothing happened
The letting kids sleep with him in his bed....theres no way anybody can persuade me that that's alright
Onion Head exactly
I've said it before. If it was your neighbor up the street you'd be furious and make some phone calls to officials, but because you like the way this guy dances, it's just fine! It's beyond delusional!
Not cool, but that's not evidence of criminality.
Onion Head no one is saying that’s it’s right, it’s about weather or not this actually happened
@@brendan8870 like they say, where there's smoke...."
Lies….. lies……. Tell them that its human nature…… lies….. lies
I know we suppose to stand by the victims but, I do not believe these 2 goofballs.
Wade said hearing Michael’s music triggered him but there is literally footage of him as an adult teaching choreography to Michael’s song makes no sense
we all live in different dimensions, they both admitted that they still cope with different types of emotions, including love for Michael.
@@29doll29 what does that have to do with what I said it still makes no sense “love for Michael” he said himself hearing his songs trigger him so much that he has to walk out the room yet a vid got leaked of him dancing to his music he could’ve just told the truth and said mikes music doesn’t triggers him 😂
@@29doll29 how can you love someone that sexually abused you?
@@edona2146 fame is twisted
@@edona2146 pain and trauma can do crazy things to your mind. Like when a kidnap victim falls in love with the captor, it helps them cope.
The sad thing is, Michael Jackson is deceased and is unable to defend himself! Of course these 2 men come out and speak on this subject after Michael already passed. 🙄
Jackson did not want to defend himself. He didn't want to go to court to clear his name. Why not? If he is such a kid loving saint you say he is.
@@fakeoldtoughguy768 Well to correct you, he did go to court in 2005. Wade Robson testified at the trial and swore under oath that Michael never laid a finger on him. Sounds fishy to me. Think what you want, but I have my own opinion on the topic and you can either take it or leave it.
yeah... it's really sad
yeah same thing happened to Jimmy Saville, leave them alone they are great men....
Never underestimate the influence of a popculture icon, if MJ was still alive. All of these allegations will all be swept under the rug all again. It will be all in vain. Now that he passed, people are more comfortable in opening up since MJ's influence aren't oppressing and twisting the truth anymore.
These two were taught as children to scam people
Spoiler alert but fact, Michael’s innocent.
Suspicious that they only showed up after his death tho 🤨
I hate to be the devil's advocate but, it would make sense considering how famous he was and no would believe them (if it is true)
Honestly I’d probably be speaking out if I knew my abuser couldn’t hurt me anymore. Especially if he’s dead. Js
@@jadendafinger people still defend mj.
@@nicksenick5196 same lmao
@@jadendafinger (it is not true)
When will the media do a piece called Surviving Harvey Weinstein?
Denyse Renne or better yet did Mr. Polanski when an Oscar?
@THE PEDOPHILE EXPOSING BOUNTY HUNTER Maybe he meant WIN not When
When it's revealed he molested little boys
Yeah cuz Harvey Weinstein in Michael Jackson sure are on the same level
Never.
These guys are sick to the core
Still lying, changing the story. Micheal is with God while these fools will be with Satan so
I don't care who the person was, but I would never let my child spend the night with a grown man, especially alone. That would raise some red flags and would make me feel so uncomfortable. I don't know if Michael Jackson molested any of his accusers, but I think that it is sad that all the great music he created is being overshadowed by the child molestation allegations.
Markus Chelios that’s Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a reliable source people could change things on it.
@@quite.unloveable The saying goes if something sounds too good to be true it probably is.
It's not though, no one believes that he did it because of all the great music he made
Alberto Lopez I literally went on the site and put “Michael Jackson is innocent!” It May get removed but I will continue putting it there
First paragraph, first sentence it’s not hard to miss
The fact that they got money bc of their “abuse” says it all.....
Kiki -- At what age would you allow your boys to sleep alone in the same bed as MJ -- 6 0r 7?
You right. It says that michael payed them to stfu.
@@maxmus1259 Thats not how it works. Watch the documentary
@@YBM2007 kzhead.info/sun/ZL2paZWygnR9mpE/bejne.html
@@philippeosthoff6244 not a credible witness, discredited ages ago
what disturbs me about these two, is they are only coming forward to try and get MONEY from the estate!!!!!!! when a molester is caught they go to court for justice! no victims are trying to get rich off being a victim...its disgusting. If they want to help people, then get out there and help...NO MONEY from the estate.
Their stories have changed numerous times, an the one still teaches choreography to Michael's songs til this day.
I'm not a Michael Jackson fan and even I can tell they're lying.
lol, dont lie fanboy
Me neither, I liked the skillet rock band and I’m here watching as they giggle while acting as victims.
Exactly. I know people who arent fans who think they're lying too, what does being a fan have to do with supporting him anyway - there are fans that think he's guilty.
not a fanboy as well and I think they're lying.
Quintin Blanson Bravo for you. I am fan -but after all my rechergen I'm shure, MJ is and was not pedofil, but a honest person.
they speak out when he isn’t here to defend himself. of course.
He was alive when ppl came forward! And he tried to bribe them and made threats so of course some of them stayed quiet....
@@dancefloor8020 that’s absolutely not true. he never bribed them and he never made threats. he paid them off because his advisors told them to, not because it was his idea. he was found innocent in every case. the families just wanted money off him and now, that’s what people like these want too. they want money from the estate.
You don’t understand how abusive relationships work. MJ groomed them for years. He made them think they were in some sort of romantic relationship with them. They actually thought they were in love with him. Abused people often don’t understand that they were abused until years, possibly decades later. Don’t speak about something you don’t know.
@@aiden6422 Michael Jackson was always surrounded by mony greed. Since he became famos and made a lot of money. He was also the gold donkey of the music industry.
These guys are actors. You have to wake up and understand that nothing in tv is real
Idol worship is dangerous.
Cash grab, Jackson aint here to defend himself. Let him rest.
So were gonna believe these two guys when literally 5 other grown men have defended Micheal saying that he never ever touched them even though they were at his mansion all the time
Trash Daddy dude MJ was rich he probably paid them off. What reason would 2 men have to lie ab being abused. I know from experience it sucks being told your lying ab that stuff. Or that the person couldn’t have done that cause they were a good person. Or well no one else was there or there was some. There but they didn’t see/hear anything bad.
@@Wow30035 Wade Robson one of the accusers in this video LITERALLY defended Michael when he was alive and now years after his death he changes his statement and acts like a victim to get money.
They are pathetic.. and people who believe them just dont know half the information, they the ones who'd believe an alien attack was happening if they heard a sci fi book being read on the radio.
ColdCats lmao I actually got that reference
@@Wow30035 Money Grabbbb. No evidence once again just accusations
So now after he is dead they decide to come out with it. I smell gold diggers.
Right!!?
He was accused when he was alive aswell the boys had no proof I know Michael did it i have a strong feeling
Someone is a smooth criminal. Lol
How will they get money if Michael Jackson is dead u idiot? I believe these guys their stories are too disgusting and detailed to be made up. There was always something weird about Michael Jackson anyways
@@debramariabrown5001 He's the idiot? Lol Don't you know that they can sue Jackson estate you idiot😂 Michael was weird for several reasons..i will gladly tell you these reasons.. 1- Michael got beaten up by his father growing up.. 2- Michael never got to be a child that goes to parks and do kid stuff because he was too busy working and singing from a young age.. 3- his hair was on fire in a pepsi commercial which made him 50% bald and this incident gave him insecurity about his looks and image.. 4- The media and press took advantage of his Vitiligo disease and made up alot of awful and disgusting stories which made alot of people make fun of him and that really affected his personality.. 5- His own brother was jealous of him so he released a disstrack that destroyed Michael on a personal and emotional level.. 6- He got bullied by his father growing up telling him his nose was too big which lead to the plastic surgery.. Michael was weird..but he was never a child molester..
It's easy to accuse someone who is dead of such actions. This is pathetic. If true, why didn't you tell your story back then?
me waiting for the one fake person to say "as an abuse survivor, i believe the abuser" lool
What kind of parent would leave their child with a grown man or anybody???
And, why wouldn’t they tell there parents if they thought that what “love was”
And even if Michael never touched them, why a GROWN man of 44 years old HAS to sleep with a child? I’m sorry but if my child is telling me that I assure you I call the police.
Uh its Michael Jackson...
@@red5wormy165 couldn’t give a shot if it was Christ himself I’m not letting my kid sleep with a grown man
@@lemmythebulldog8812 Yeah but its Michael Jackson...
Look at them trying to remember their lies
Omg I’m dying this comment killed me🤣🤣
scripted lol
@@kierstenmiller05 factsss
Their eyes are very obvious
You don't know the full story man. As long as there's no proof, it's probably best to not say anything.
Notice how the dude in black blinks a lot when he’s talking about his experience, first sign of a liar
True
😂 that stuffs been debunked
@@Mr.Brightside83 Came here to post this ☝🏼
Oh you solved the case! 🙄
Can you not decipher dates? James Safechuck was born February 28, 1978. Look it up. Let's do basic math. 1988 - 10 years old 1989 - 11 years old 1990 - 12 years old 1991 - 13 years old 1992 - 14 years old 1993 - 15 years old (Chandler Case began August 1993) May 1994 - 16 years old (James Safechuck in Budapest with his mother, working for MJ and carrying his umbrella) Civil Litigation: James said he never returned to Neverland until he was 17 or 18. Leaving Neverland Claim: Safechuck claims MJ repeatedly had sex with him at the Neverland Train House FROM 10 TO 14. Look at the dates. Overhead aerial footage Neverland police raid in August 1993 proves the train house IT WAS NOT THERE. MJ Santa Barbara Permit given to build it was September 1993 (google the permit online). Proof Safechuck LIED.
😂 what's so demented about you creeps is accepting that mj has any good reason to be alone with boys in his bed every night.
He didn’t have a childhood- so kids were his age mind set. There’s just no way. Have them take a lie detector test- let’s get over this.
Right he was a child at heart. He loved children because he was hurt as a child. The hurt this man has gone through cuz of people like them.....this is ridiculous. Lie detectors NEED to be put on them DEFINITELY
Yes you took the words right out of my mouth.
Lie detector test isn't accurate tho
@@korrasstreams9827 True but it's so annoying that these people LIE about serious stuff like that.
Hbo is getting sued now and the court proved Michael was innocent smh these 2 are just money hungry
This is so sad i feel bad for Michael. Imagine caring for a person and giving them the best life but in the end they are the one who's gonna bring you down.
I can't imagine how heartbreaking it would be
Michael jackson is not bad
@@justinejackson9151 imagine being 30 years old, building a predator den aka never land to lure kids over sleeping with them having naked bath with them.. instead innocent fans that never gone true evil '' hes innocent, bc he is mj he can dance and a world superstar i love him so he innocent'' everything is there open your eyes.
@Giri_shiva that doesn’t make it correct
that's one way of looking at it
Why speak when the person you accuse can no longer defend himself.
All about money ,shame on them to try to destroy.a men. That was kind .all sbout getting his money. I dont belived their lies
As a person whom has been raped... i feel disgusted how they are lying! Everyone, do your reasearch and you will find that micheal is innocent . Omg he is dead and now they are doing this... wtf
Sorry for what happened
I am sorry u have to go through this. I hope u r okay. Stay safe
Danielol Vb...so sorry to hear whatever happened to you.be strong and safe
@Danielol Vb I'm so sorry to hear about that. I hope you are okay now
So was I but I believe them we all react differently and I believe them for many reasons
Ye lets believe the guy who only 6months before he goes to sell his story, had the role of choreographing the michael jackson broadway show taken away from him. Pathetic.
I feel very sad for Michael, peoples betrayed him and lied just for his money 💰
the fact that in the 4 hour documentary the credits have burned items like thriller jacket, bad gloves smooth criminal clothes etc but those where actually sold to the Julies auction. LIARS
I grew up listening to Michaels music, he was absolutely great at what he did.. Only God knows the truth about whether he did or didn’t do what he was being accused of.. I would hate to think it was true.. One thing I do know is that I would never agree to let my child spend the night at Any Grown Man’s house.. Regardless of who he is.
So true !💯
You speak my mind
oddly enough, I've seen data suggesting that females are almost just as likely to abuse children (anyone can do research themselves on the issue and find similar research). i guess the key safety factor would be the caretaker being a fellow parent. i used to stay at friends' houses all the time at that age... i can't see our giggly, chatty selves not utterly blowing up the spot together if an adult did that to any 1 of us in such a context... but an ALONE single adult and a child... perhaps just, "No."
@@luceatlux7087 An abuser in my home town was the coach of an elite little-league baseball team. He would pay for the kids to go to Hawaii for a special training vacation, and only isolate one of them once they got there. So the parents thought it was a big crowd, but that wasn't the reality when they were far away from parents and supervision.
@@SuperRobertoClemente i think it's rare to find a fellow parent who will do such a thing. like i said, with the data saying females are just as likely to abuse chilkdren, everyone can live in fear or just try to use best judgment and not endorse children going on vacations with alone, childless adults and instructing them well.
They lying so much you can tell. He was not that kind of man. They just want to make him look bad.
Also what man let’s little boys sleep in his bed ...
He was that man and one . What man takes showers with little boys . Sleeps with little boys in the same bed . Cores little boys ? And you mean to tell me he was just doing all of this to be a good father figure ? To boys ... WHO HAD FATHERS
@@XQUEZZYX You have no idea of life. Why do you think it's always about sex. You can't think further than S E X. MJ loverd children, children loved him. He could never say NO when they begged to sleep with him. MJ was never a pedophile. He was not that guy. MJ loved women, but he was discret. Finally let him rest in peace. He had more decency and conscience than all haters together. "This is it".
@@menema1151 dude by the way you typed this up your under the age of 15 and need to go read the actual court documents
@@XQUEZZYX are you taking special Ed classes?
People just cannot believe that their favorite singer could ever do something like this just because they love their music and think they know them as a person.
Or maybe it's because their stories are inconsistent?
They were kids under enormous pressure; I think it happened 🥺
Wow no way. Evidence ran out of the window. 🤓🤓It's not just about being a singer, he did many good things other than singing. You are blinded by media to see the evidence to prove mjs innocence, I feel sad for you. Keep living believing the false reality of the majority, you're a sheep.
If you look into it you will find out he is innocent. He just look weird and act weird so people assume he is a bad man as well. One of the victims stated that MJ molested him in a train station from 88-93, while the station was only built in late 93. You can watch tons of videos on youtube discussing this
@@yp8152 You don’t know anything
Funny how these guys spent decades defending Jackson then suddenly changed their position A). When their careers tanked and they were financially broke and B). Over $1.5 billion of Jackson's estate was at stake.
seems like they struggle a lot to remember the exact same things they said in the document 😂
They were 8 and 9.
@@ruthcuratolo9383 sexual abuse would leave trauma on a child's mind, people who had actually been abused not only sexuality but also mentally, physically, and emotionally would remember in detail how they were abused and every little detail. There is a book a man wrote about himself when he was around 4 to 5 when his abuse begun and remembered every little detail and put it in his book where he was abused every way possible with it being a bit light on sexual by his mother. Abuse is common accusations when a person who was really good and nice passes away, there had been rumors and accusations of Stan Lee sexually abusing child fans. They are clearly lying and damaging the name of a celebrity that was actually abused during his childhood. Just disgusting don't defend them for not remembering there lies completely as abuse leaves trauma on a child and adults alike that have been abused.
@@blueberry1804 Not every kid remembers in detail how they were sexually abused. Sometimes trauma blocks out your memory as a way for your brain to help you heal and move on.
@@blueberry1804 sometimes your brain turns off the memories of the abuse to protect the victim. happens a lot
@@TheBigChubbyBunny I know about that just a lot of there story was false by timeline
I have had sexual abuse happen to me as a young girl. If I tell anyone there is NO evidence. How can we have evidence in the first place from me being 6 years old? I believe these two guys.
Exactly sorry about that they could take lie ditector tests but if a grown man has boys spending the night what are the odds he was being inappropriate with other?
Princess yesss like people are so easy to be like “ it’s fake they have no proof” I don’t have proof either yet it happened to me. But I didn’t find out what had happened (if it was good or bad) once I was older. I knew what they had done to me was not right i was so innocent at that age.
It actually in the first place wrong that M.J. would let kids “sleep over” like who does that? That’s just weird and wrong
I blame the parents they basically handed their children over to him I would never leave my child alone with a grown man especially after the allegations came out..
Princess yes like heck no. I would never.
It is so wrird that people use the eord "innocence" for a grown man. He was a grown man having sleepovers with children.
The guy is dead, can't defend himself so now you have these guys come out and try to get money.
Once you hear a lie over and over again you start to believe it. -Michael Joseph Jackson, 1993
Michael Joe Jackson
Thats not a Michael Jackson quote. It’s from The Crown of Life from 1869.
@@youtubingbabs Michael Joseph Jackson . He stated his full name many times.
He must have told the man in the mirror he was black hundreds of times then
The funny thing is one of them wanted to have his wedding in neverland the place he was "abused" in 😂
Long term abuse victims often take years to admit to themselves what happened.
@@outlawJosieFox except for these two Too bad they didn't get their fast paycheck maybe they should've stock to one story 😂
@@outlawJosieFox took about 30+ years
Watch the documentary and you'll understand why. They were abused and brainwashed
@@ollie5271 nah I'm not going to watch something fake
Sorry for genuine people suffering abuse not evil people who lie. One day in heaven the truth will be found
The truth is obvious to those who are not fools and the truth is that he enjoyed fiddling with kids
@@seonggihun5069 The 19 year old is about to speak out so we shall see, you know a lot that no one else does you are so cruel to his children shame on you for making stories up
Liars!!!
PLEASE, do a lie detector test. I wish that wouldn’t be so hard...
True, and it's also a fact at this point that he was sick with food poisoning during most of his career. Doctors say he just couldn't stop eating 12 year old weaners apparently.
Lie detectors aren't always used for the clear fact that if you actually know how they work, they aren't always accurate and are a last resort. It doesn't read the brain, it reads the bodies reaction to a lie, which alot of people have control over or can manipulate
Lie detector tests are nonsense. They do not work.
Latest update: the jackson estate wanted a lie detector test on this both men, but they dint want it!! What are these both men afarid about?
News reported their lies: kzhead.info/sun/f5Wdhcl9ZJVthmg/bejne.html
Wade described himself as a master manipulator. That so-called doc was so rehearsed. Can’t believe some folks are falling for these manipulative puppeteers. The man is dead. Let his soul Rest In Peace already
🙏🏾
Tbh.. i feel sad people making up lies its just horrible
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Lies Lies Lies
Don't worry. No one believes Michaels lies.
It’s easy to accuse someone who’s dead and can’t defend themselves.
Right
Will we ever know the truth? The man himself is gone now
Like Wacko would tell the truth if he was still here
@@stevens5541 HE WAS NOT WACKO SO SHUT IT
WE KNOW TRUTH WAS PROVEN INNOCENT
according to wikipedia, he was never convicted and he was acquitted of all accusations. his accusers contradicted themselves, and one of the accusers (father of jordan chandler) even killed himself a couple of months after michael jacksons death. im not aware of everything what happened. but to me it looks like some people tried to make some money by means of these accusations. i have a strong feeling that he is innocent
you just learned the truth, did you even watch the movie?
the way that they’re talking sounds very rehearsed. i don’t believe any of this at all. go ahead and disagree w me, my mind won’t change 🤷🏾♀️
To be fair, it is an interview.
It’s bad writing lol
No show of real emotions when speaking about the actual abuse they claim. Most people even after 20-30 dealing and excepting what happened they still have tell tell signs through unconscious movements. To comfortable talking about all of it. Maybe they were brainwashed and paid off by the entertainment moguls to keep the eyes on Michael and not on them and their casting couches and own pedophilia.
@@DarkDucky79 it a lie the documentary is a lie
kzhead.info/sun/ZL2paZWygnR9mpE/bejne.html
Not sure what's true, but Michael's story never changed. Wade has said nothing happen between them when Michael was alive. Now that he's dead his story has changed. Could be a money grab, could be true, but we will never know.
Money is the root of all evil. All this is about is money. People will say anything when they want a bit of cash and fame it's ridiculous
Terrible journalism. Why wasn't their a discussion about their contradictory stories in their failed lawsuits? What about their attempts at forging evidence and telling lies in court? Seems like it would be a sensible thing to talk about when they make belated accusations of the worst kind against someone no longer here to defend themselves. Their credibility (or lack thereof) must be scrutinised before condemning a dead man.
Yes. And, not to mention that they both changed their stories and lied at least twice just in this interview.
Bad journalism has been going on for a long time kzhead.info/sun/q9SzcdiciIBraZs/bejne.html look at this like how the media did the trial.
Media is all about the Money. Whatever sells.
Paul Glaisher Hernandez 👏👏👏👏👏
What did they say?
The a***oles didn't even show emotion and they were proven to be liars. Like dude they kept changing their stories didn't they? They'll get what they deserve. Karma is real.
Exactly
They said their stories multiple times 😐 would you keep laughing at a joke that's repeated 100 times?
Liars
Even he is 6 feet under ppl still robbed him.poor soul MJ
It sounds like they are talking like they have rehearsed with a lawyer
And that lawyer is well rehearsed in this 'story'!
Yep, and BTW they do have the same attorney.
verbatimmags yup
Exactly..
like they ‘rehearsed’ it in 1993 and 2005??? 🤔🤔
What kind of parent leaves their child with an adult like that? I would have gone after anyone, no matter who, who touched my child!
One who asked to take custody of MJ’s kids after he died, that’s who. Grifters.
Exactly! It’s all about the money! Who in their right mind would leave their child with and man alone for a week!? Their parents should be sent to a mental institution.
YES
Someone who is convinced that MJ is just a kid himself. That's what he wanted them to believe. And they did.
@@belladonna5904 plus, he gave them presents and money. It’s funny how die-hard defenders of MJ are ready to believe that James and Wade would be ready to lie about being abused for money, but they can’t imagine that the parents could have turned a blind eye on what was happening because of all the material benefits they got from being friends with MJ.
James Safechuck is more of a professional actor which is why Pepsi picked him as a CHILD ACTOR to be in MJ's Pepsi Commercial. 🤣 But when you create a LIEStory, it has to make sense and that's where James FAILED. He forgot about putting down a timeline to MATCH a story. He must have forgotten Michael didn't have a train house at Neverland in 1989 to 1992 when he was age 10 to 14. He gave graphical details describing "sex" with MJ on the 2nd floor of the train house. How do you make up a lie like that? It's so SICK!
The man just lied 🤥 to our face smh 🤦🏽♂️. Wake up people, He Clearly was with his family during the “Grand Canyon trip” smh 🤦🏽♂️.
He is not here to defend himself
@THE PEDOPHILE EXPOSING BOUNTY HUNTER wow really sad that your talking about yourself i mean noone would be sad soo call me when the event is happening.... lol
@THE PEDOPHILE EXPOSING BOUNTY HUNTER also who tf told you that mj was a rapist?
THE PEDOPHILE EXPOSING BOUNTY HUNTER bruh
@@asmoroll I'm sorry, he's Michael Jackson?
@@justignoremyasspls4675 well yes Who did u think he was lmao
It's funny how he's trying to remember the lies he wrote down .. Even the man beside him is looking at him crazy .
Go and speak about sexual abuse and tell us how easy it would be
@@egb6322 it's easy when your lying about it .
Actually most of children who have been sexualy abused develop dissociative disorders which leads them to forget the details about what happenned, some of them are even victim of total dissociative amnesia, i mean they forget that they ever been abused.
@@lyricrichardson1351 so it seems you joined KZhead to just vehemently say that all of this is a lie and what these people are saying is a lie. Where do you have a foundation to stand on that this is all a lie? I would have to think that you're an adult man that loves to abuse children and would defend this predator, because you're one too. Truly what grounds do you have to say that these people are telling a lie? Other than looking down at a note. I keep notes all the time I have to. So tell me, what about Chandler he took his own life. It was settled out of court with 20 million dollars, Pepsi dropped him so many others did too. You're standing up for someone that has little boys sleeping in his bed. What if he was one? Just plausibly? Would you allow your son to sleep in his bed? Or is that your daughter on your photograph? Or is that a little girl you admire?
@@MzClementine "Where do you have a foundation to stand on that this is all a lie?" Documentary called 'Square One' that's ACTUALLY backed by police reports, WITNESSES, ACTUAL court documents, REAL evidence even gives you time frames... It also answers all the questions you asked. Do your research before sounding like a clown.
They should sue them both
I see a man with emotions that don’t match the story he’s telling. A very carefully planned fabricated story.
Fool
Exactly. His history speaks for itself.
this is crap‼ how can people believe this? honestly.
To people who were abused and groomed its very familiar and easy to believe. The truth is no one knows...except MJ and the victims.
Lola Twinkle alleged victims
I believe everything the men say I believe michael is not as innocent as he is maked out to be
@@poopoopeepee6203 well today d allegations against HBO came out all clear for Michael Jackson. truth or not he is legally innocent
How do you know its crap tell me the details
All lies. Their parents just wanted his money. Accused in 1993 and then in 2003 and both times found NOT GUILTY.
THANK YOU ILL SEE YOU IN HEAVEN MY BROTHA
First of all,what parent would accept money for abuse done to their child.????they would want the culprit to be behind bars.
@@Carousel5883 what they were saying was these accusers wanted money. so they accused michael of sexual assault, which was later proven all false by the court.
Found no evidence also 7:06
Still guilty
They money must be running out so they came to do an interview , liers! They didn’t got paid in the documentary thinking they’re gonna get paid after 😂
Regardless of what the truth is. If MJ is innocent or not. No parent should have left their children with a strange man.
Anything for money Would lie for you Would die for you Even sell my soul to the devil. Dats It.
Wow this is probably my favorite KZhead comment of all time.
M J mhmm.
He loved little boys.
Illustraful ? He loved children, not in a sexual way. He saw their innocent, and non-judge mental ways of thinking. He felt like he could be himself when he was around them, without being judged.
Anything Anything Anything for money Die for you Lie for you Even sell your soul to the devil✌
“what’s an extreme sport?” trying to remember all your lies about michael jackson
what lies
@@alexx76654 All the lies that fell out their mouth.
@@rossothecrimson7 MJ's? oh right MJ's lies
@@alexx76654 lmao none of the dates add up, like this comment and I’ll come back in a hour or 2 to PROVE to you that they don’t.
@@MacobVFX and yet we are still waiting
Its crazy, if it were anyone other than MJ having sleepovers in the same room and even bed as young boys, would that person be getting the benefit of the doubt? It's just the level of fame the man had which still blinds his followers. Plenty of people have had trauma and bad childhoods, but who else would get away with letting young boys share thier bed with them supposedly because of it? I mean c'mon!
Wade also said nothing ever happened until he publicly was going through money issues. All a cash grab
yeah sure sherlock , he didn't say anything like that . Also they burned down all memorial items that michael jackson gave them . Those items cost billions of dollars like his hat and thriller jacket etc. You're really blind ?
@@maxwellwilson3871 clearly you didn’t follow the story 😂 let me guess he touched you too
@@Cartello_Diamante92 Hah thinking you're funny . Leave your kid with stranger in the room so they can cuddle and ONLY SLEEP 🤗 what an innocent act isn't it ?
@@maxwellwilson3871 *he didn't say anything like that* Yes he did. At the 2005 trial, Wade was asked directly if Michael ever molested him. He said no. He was then asked if Michael ever touched him in a sexual way. He again answered no. He was then asked if Michael had ever inappropriately touched him anywhere on his body. Yet again, the answer was no. *they burned down all memorial items that michael jackson gave them. Those items cost billions of dollars like his hat and thriller jacket etc* Wade sold Michael's items on the Julien's Auctions website in 2011. Furthermore, he suspiciously requested that his identity be kept secret. They ignored his request and listed it on their website as the Wade Robson collection.
@@lesleyd9969 Keep protect a man who is a pedophile 😆bravo
Where is the lie detector test when you need one
If you know anything about lie detector tests you know they are unrealiable. If they were accurate they would be used in every interrogation. Just don't get nervous, and you'll pass the test with ease...
Watch the documentary. There is no doubt these guys are telling the truth.
Yes! Hook these 2 liars up!
katwil89 i’ve seen it and some white kid who never touched a black man’s hair would describe it as a “brillo pad”. seriously?!
@@banksysgirl3699 bet you'd feel pretty bad if you got molested and nobody believed you
Disgusting how you could just sit down and lie about Michael like that
Why would they want to do that ?
Money talks
Rxti X you don‘t know if theyre lying. please always believe the victim first
Bro just look at michael that dude is a freak, if you let him around ur children ur an idiot
@@EM-mh4fw dang, your opinion, but how you gonna disrespect a dead man who changed the world. And people like us will never really know the full truth
As a victim of sexual abuse I believe these men .. I know what the world may question why victims choose to not speak and then speak stop bashing victims for how they choose when they’re ready to come out and speak
They aren’t “victims” , there has been no conviction. Nobody has proof of anything.
These two are the reason real victims are affraid to come forward, greedy liars just make it hard to be believed.
@G Walker look up the documentary and see why it was pulled. So many things they said were proven not to be true. they say things happened in places that weren’t yet built. Claim things happened when MJ was proven to be out of the country. Etc.
@G Walker ur so surface level to this go actually do research before you talk
@G Walker agree