Future Newcastle Stadium - Expand, Upgrade or Rebuild?
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3 Options
Option A - Expand
Option B - Upgrade
Opcion C - Rebuild
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Option C makes sense to me
if money is no object, council approves destroying more of the park, they find a suitable venue to play games in while the works take place and residents dont mind the construction.
@@74_pelicans if im the shake or who ever it is and i have the money pay off the council , pay off the residents and pay off the lawyers to do it and get away with it , pay for a 20,000 seater indoor stadium for rugby super league, womens super league, concerts and conversations at a near buy location that adds balance and convenience to the city , pay for some abandoned areas/run down areas near by and make green spaces / park / shops and restaurants and hotels buy up some land outside the city in a more convenient location for cattle grazing , donate that to the people of newcastle. build a 88,000 seater stadium something like the bernabeu if it was a complete bowl with 5 tiers , cheap seats / safe standing with mad supper expensive level of king like vip boxes so the revenue can go up but 80,000+ tickets would be cheep as chips. get a friend of a friend in the middle east to start a company call "leazes" get them to sponsor the nameing rights of the stadium. rent out 32 permanent residences in the best box seats location of the stadium so ya bump up revenue even more and build ya own camera rigs and mounting points put in your own cameras so ya can distribute highlights and live footage without partners. of course ya have to have the underground pitch so ya can boot profit even more and then wack all that cash into the team , sit back and enjoy then seen as how ya might need somthing else to do start to build affordable and luxury housing so ya dont piss anyone off win win win
Never gonna happen, they cannot build that far into Leazes Park and never will
I can't see why the other options are not feasible. Just demolish those 180 year old apartment blocks. Who lives there anyway. The English are strange. Newcastle is hardly a big city and would understand if a skyscraper was in the way but that's not the case. Also stadium design is orientated East-to-West. The new stadium seems to be correctly orientated. So they you go. Option C corrects the stuff up of the original.
Not a Newcastle fan, but I happen to like option C. But it should still be called St James Park though.
I love St James Park but, its mark of a new era and I think the new name serves the stadium well. Time to create a new legacy. Mind... would have loved a retractable roof
MBS arena
Leazes Park… Nice and simple ❤
U can’t keep the name bro, if u change it just change the whole thing
Newcastle is one word!
Tha t's cor wrecked!
Yeh. Sh1te. Lol
The pm ħo
It's their "New Castle" 🤡
It'd be sad to see an old stadium go but it has to be C surely?
Totally agree 💯
I like expansion option C. They could play with a full stadium capacity as it currently is as they build 3 sides of the new stadium then have those 3 stands full as they build the fourths side to complete the new stadium.
im a Liverpool fan and I was 50/50 about keeping Anfield but now after 10 years to build half a stadium that in my opinion could have been designed far better than what we got wasn't worth it. I hope you do a similar build to Tottenham stadium and go for option c as its the best by far, though that design could be a lot better.
@@ecohipster7724 lol I'm a Liverpool fan too. I was just commenting on the options for Newcastle. I wanted to move out of Anfield because I didn't think it could be extended much but since going and sitting in the new Anfield road stand I think it was the best decision. Maybe FSG could have started building the stadium somewhere behind the main stand because there's lots of space there now. Then like spurs build the final part on the current stadium plot.
@@isaz597 the problem with Anfield is it has no major transport so it can be expanded any more until this is resolved and FSG aren't going to invest in public transportation. there is no doubt inside the ground. It does look good but on the design point of view I think they got a lot of things wrong and it looks too messy and cheap but that's just my point of view.
C is the worst, why would we want to relocate a historic site. Personally I would be absolutely devastated me, me dad, my grandad and my kids have all followed our club from here
@@harryl9yearsago788 you wouldn't be relocating it would be the same as what Tottenham done. You're literally building right on the side of where your historic stadium is my point is is good to keep the historic stadium but it comes at a cost and the cost is you're not gonna get a modern stadium.
This is a brilliant video. However unfortunately all three options are extremely difficult to almost impossible depending on various circumstances. Option A: Extending the Gallowgate is tricky as it'd extend over a road which is currently used by Emergency Services to and from the RVI hospital and there is a Metro line/station underneath. It's probably the most feasible option (ovbiously extremely complex and expensive) although wouldn't be possible for at least three years due to the STACK Fanzone due to open on Strawberry Place in June. Option B: Moving the pitch and extending the East Stand is the most unlikely scenario and difficult with regards to the stadium. There are Grade II listed Georgian buildings (Leazes Terraces) of which extending the East Stand would obstruct their right to light and various other problems and the buildings themselves cannot be bought and demolished either. There have been suggestions to keep the Farcade but move the buildings a little but that would be uneconomical. Option C: Rebuilding on Leazes Park is also very difficult. Leazes Park is protected land so that immediately complicates things. Our former chairman Freddie Shepherd had a similar proposal in the 90s to rebuild the stadium in Leazes Park but came under fierce resistance from conservation groups and others. This in theory wouldn't be as big of an obstacle to overcome today as funding for it's upkeep has been severely reduced so there's a potential they'd accept a trade off of some land for a large investment and the chairwoman of 'Friends of Leazes Park' is a NUFC ST holder and on the fan advisory board. However this would still be a significant hurdle to overcome. Another issue is that there are many fans who are completely opposed to a new stadium as they have a fond connection to SJP and many see modern stadiums as soulless bowls stripping away a clubs history so it'd require significant persuasion of the fanbase. Nobody connected with Newcastle will have any idea of which direction the club will go with until a Stadium Feasibility study is completed with initial reports due to be received this month based on previous information.
Totally agree with everything you’ve said…I am a 100% Geordie from Benwell originally, but I left in the early 90s for work and now unfortunately I don’t have a ST aka Willy Wonka tkt, so have to survive off ballot scraps or borrow me mates seat when he can’t make it-been x 4 this season🎉so for me the only is Option C to quench the Geordie thirst for a ST or more of chance with a ballot less than 55,000! Times have changed since Hall/Shephard around the time I left, oh and vast sums of ££ but THE most important is catching up with the Gangster 6 as without a 80,000 seater it will take decades and most of us will be deed 😂🖤🤍
Well written. I want us to remain at St James Park and expand to make it as big as possible
Added to this, I'm sure the victorian terrace and bandstand within leazes park are also listed - Option C just demolishes them lol
The Stack wouldn't be an issue since it's made from shipping crates and is movable.
Agree with this. Spent 8yrs in Newcastle and a number in that area north of the Hospital. The expansion to the east in Option B is very difficult because of Leazes Terrace. In reality I can see Option C being the only viable route. I fished in the lake. It's not exactly picturesque, more a concrete bowl. Revitalising this area would be a benefit. The new stadium would have an East facing main entrance which would I think be a plus.
This is a fantastic video bondibot ! My favourite is option C closely followed by option B, what an absolutely brilliant idea in option B to elevate the pitch ! It’s pure genius ! Brilliant video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Do you think that if they elevated the pitch, they would still keep have it on a sloped angle?
Tremendous work, once again Bondibot. Where would we be without you?! You are the unofficial industry standard.
Option B increases the height of the stadium in close proximity to neighbouring houses, almost certainly unacceptably so. Those houses are also Listed Buildings (protected historic assets) so even if the club bought them all, they would not be permitted to knock them down, as other clubs have done to get around similar problems. I believe the club has bought land outside the stand behind the goal, making option A more likely.
Newcastle council has demolished more grade 1 listed buildings than I’ve had hot dinners , what’s another street … it’s a shame st James park is still on a long lease the owners could just say f**k the council and the money it generates for the city centre and move …
100% option C! Please let it happen!
100% won't happen.
@@marksavage8052 i hope it can.
B*
Option C is the best solution
Worst*
This might be your best work. Even surpassing the Old Trafford work. And I think you’ve done your homework, as per discussions on the Tyneside Life video Option B would be incredible. I’m not sure if possible re Right To light at Leazes Terrace but I read an article about moving the pitch so seeing this visualised was sensational As for option C, Again, v plausible. I’m just not certain about how much space to play with at Leazes Park. I’ll read the comments from the Toon Army who’ll know more. In the meantime I’m watching this on the biggest screen I can find
thanks
C all day long get it built man!
B*
Option C for me too, fantastic that current ground used until new stadium 3/4 complete before moving over. Makes complete sense and keeps the green space warriors happy too as well as the listed building campaigners. Great work!
definitely option 3 REBUILD
Option C is no brainer right? The whole area looks so clean and open compared to the current location.
Not that simple as we tried to do it years ago and got rejected
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Always liked option B, very clever idea, but C is the most optimal if they can come up with a unique design
very interesting! and awesome work with 3d as always!
thanks
Option C is perfect we need a full rebuild a stadium that will last for decades to come
B*
The work that must have gone into this! Thanks man brilliant stuff.
Spent many years in the old Richardson Road student flats and fished in the lake. Would love to see the Option C come to pass. The old listed Uni accommodation to the east of the current stadium is problematic to any expansion on that side. A revitalised southern Leazes Park would be a real benefit to the area.
Option C is the best
One that we've all been waiting for ! Thanks Bondibot
Option B btw
option C is the best new stadium lock good and they cold have more space for new upgrade in future
Absolutely Not, Option C looks like a generic football stadium. Option B is the better one IMO.
@@TheEarth1874Howaboot Option B where Option C could be?😂😊
Never relocate c is the worst
@@harryl9yearsago788How is that relocating? One of the new stands would be sitting where the north-west corner currently is located. Option C is clearly the best if they can overcome local objections, relocate the band stand etc..
@@TheEarth1874 B ,only SJP
Option C, I can't like these projects that build buildings over the road. A video recommendation, could you do a before and after of the Brazilian league? Currently Vasco, Santos, Red Bull Bragantino have renovation projects underway, Goiás, Red Bull Bragantino, Criciúma and São Paulo have advanced projects.
Option C, NUFC need the best to be the best
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Amazing video plan C looks phenomenal 😮⚫⚪⚫⚪
Love B and C. Think C may have fewer planning issues as Leazes Terrace is untouched. Video is stunning. As a ST holder in my 80s just hope I live long enough to see it. HTL!
I’m an evertonian but this looks absolutely stunning
Option C - but the freemen will never allow it. Great video!
Thanks, been waiting for someone to make this
Excellent work Bondibot
Option C seems the best option however I don’t think the stadium should be renamed St James Park is Newcastle United’s home
Option A they have the issue with the metro. Option B issue with the light restriction on Leazes Terrace. Option C problem with that park being protected ( Grandstand Area ) . Im sure they will figure somthing out 🤞
Option C without a shadow of a doubt, it makes sense and would look so much better, the other options look to cramped and don't look right in the surroundings.
If only someone would set fire to leazes terrace, it would solve all our problems Always envisioned Option A, and that was planned as the next phase circa 2008-10 if the Hall's had stayed on and would have been the Casino/Hotel, still feasible but would need Metro station strengthed, plus point is you have nearly 15 levels from metro Station to top of stand that could be used so retail option would be immense Would be happy with Option C, Saudis love a futuristic stadium, we have Darren Eales who built arguably one of the best stadiums in the world and also owned by Reubens who are on the biggest builders in the country, new top end, world class stadium is enivitible IMO
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Just blown away by this video, well done!
I'm a Sunderland fan who can only respect Newcastle. St James' is one of sport's most raucous cathedrals. That said, the Toon deserve a brand new palace that will sell out every game. Genuinely looking forward to what they choose
Sunderland has too great stadium
I think all options are viable: A. buildings can be built on top of underground stations B. the right materials could allow light into Leazes Terrace C. Leazes Park could be used if the land under St James is made into a park Option C just looks immense!
I agree.....Option C gets my vote. B is most unlikely with Leazes Terrace right to light, but I think the council and the Friends of Leazes Park would be more cooperative now than when John Hall tried.
Can we get a video on lower league stadiums like Wrexham’s racecourse or Pompey’s Fratton Park since they are so small it would be magnificent to see what they could blossom into
Option C please !!!!
Great work 👌
個人的には最後のプランがベストと感じます。やはり改修では早いうちに建物限界が来てしまうからです。
Beautiful piece of work, thank you. Do we have any idea of the capacity in each option?
Α 60Κ, Β 70Κ, C ?
Option C but keeping the St.James' Park name is a must.
I dunno Leazes Park Stadium sounds pretty cool although it would probably be named something else for sponsorship reasons
Option C.. and put a great big flag pole flying the crest right on the old centre circle
Option C is a must in my opinion.
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Option C makes sense when money is no object and you can then maximise real estate value of existing stadium.
Bro I love your videos and animations, can you tell which software you are using to make these ?, because I'm an architect and I need to present videos like these for my clients.
Option B seems an interesting option you would lose some rows of seats but give that space to build both stands but think you will have the issues of the height of the stands for the housing behind and not letting in enough light. Option C if your allowed to build on that space seems to be a great idea basically doing what Spurs have done.
Can you do this video with Genoa's Stadium? Thank you
Option C is no BRAINER damn it looks good
Option C would keep everyone happy.. The fans as it retains its stadium on the hill, the council would gain massive compensation, the residents of Leazes Terrace would have no objections of light being lost... And we'd gain revenue from match day parking and non match Sat parking too... The only thing I'd change is retaining St James Park name.... Otherwise perfect solution for the massive growth we're going to see... We could double ticket sales at the moment and still have a waiting list.... And can you imagine the sound that will come from an expanded 75,000 seat stadium when we're smashing visiting teams????!!!!!
Isn’t Leazes park protected making option c unlikely.
Well that used to be the case but rumour has it that the council would be open to it being used due to the massive injection of cash it would bring... And tbh the whole point of the park was for public enjoyment, and what in Newcastle brings more enjoyment than seeing NUFC smashing visiting teams and it would no doubt be available on non match days for many other uses 👍👍👍👍👍👍
The friends of Leazes Park have said it would be a different conversation now to the one when John Hall wanted to build a new stadium due to the rundown state of the park. I'm sure a compromise can be found with all of these options, the council and local residents could be more cooperative with investment in the surrounding area. Option C would be my preference to start from scratch to remove all the current obstacles I.e. Metro station, road, listed buildings, lack of space on concourses
We wudnt make anything off parking newcastle United do not own the land at James park sits on
Option C looks phenomenal 👍
I understand the reluctance of some of our fans to move our ground even a short distance due to tradition and familiarity but we will make new history and memories in a new home and we really do need a bigger ground to allow the many people who want to come to games given that chance. Option C seems a reasonable idea to get a brand new facility and keep the ground in the same locality.
Option C. The stadium looks really nice.
Option c is amazing
Plan C for me. Obviously St James holds much history and sentimental value, eventually it will become out dated. Though Plan C would require building on some greenbelt land, the space created from the move could become a green area to compensate and I'm sure the local residents would be happy with that. Plus it doesn't involve much of a move so would still be a city centre stadium. If we have owners who are eager to invest, improve and dream of success then I fully support it. We might not get this opportunity again. I just hope they keep a bit of the essence of St James park in the new stadium if this is the way we go.
Excellent video mate…!
maybe option A but built the way option B is by not extending beyond the road
Leazes park is safeguarded from building so unless every member of the safeguarding board agrees to it which is highly unlikely I doubt we’ll be building there, the more possible outcome is they may allow the stadium to encroach by 20 metres moving it away from the graded buildings behind the east stand allowing for further development on that side
It’s Newcastle not New Castle.
Fair enough you’ve seen stadiums in the past that sort of needed rebuilding but history has proven it’s been the downfall or step back of many clubs in football. There is so much history in ST James park and it’s such a lovely stadium it doesn’t need knocking down. It’s the Geordie cathedral dead set in the city centre.
I have to congratulate you on the quality of the modelling work here, just superb. Option A seems realistic, but I don't know how authorities feel about roads going under terraces. It would have to be robustly closable on match days for obvious security reasons. Option B is very innovative, but I dont' think it solves the problem because Leazes Terrace has a right to light, and the stadium would still take that away. Option C looks absolutely spectacular, but it would massively change the nature of Leazes Park, and I don't know how willing residents and the local authority would be to allow it. Whatever they do, they should hire you for their PR on the project!
Imagine the atmosphere of option C with the roof closed, homes games would be a breeze, 80,000+ fans echoing your name
Option C please
Option c looks beautiful with the scenery of lake around it
Option C all day for me like !!
Are these the official proposals or mockup suggestions?
Option C, new stadium 👌🏼
*C - "80, 000 ➕️ " Seater/Safe Standing/corporate- v.i.p- super stadium, we could fill st- James's 3 X over. Extending is not big enough for the demand. If we want to be the best, we have to aspire to be the best, hence, again, *c*.... We have to move, no pun intended, with the Xs. Plus, the rev will be very much welcomed, with ffp, era, protecting the breakaway 6.....
Option C for sure - exactly how White Hart Lane was built
It boils down to weather the council want Grade A listed student doss houses or a Leazers park. Personally C works for me the council and those apposed to Leazers Park land been used need to realise times move on, lets face it the council have already abandoned the Park, oh the promises of how the Poll Tax would see our recreation areas blossom, I'm surprised Gypsies haven't move on. For me just ripp down them Grade A student doss rooms then they can have VIP car parking next to our Plan C Leazers Park stadium.
What would be the capacity for option c...what happens to the Georgian terrace? Demolished or relocated? Toffees fan
Capacity would be whatever you wanted as long as it didn't exceed Wembley. I think 75-80,000 is what is being suggested. Leazes Terrace is Grade 1 listed and will remain. This is the problem with expanding St James Park now. There has been talk of moving it brick by brick but that is unlikely to be allowed. If it was moved we would be staying at the same location and a stand the size of the Milburn and Leazes would be built
If NUFC want to be world leaders in Football. Then option C is a no brainer. Pocket change for the owners and investors. Not a Newcastle utd fan, but think there supporters are different class, and deserve the best of success with a new Super Stadium. Not sure on the architecture though. 👍
Id love the full wrap around would be spectacular
Option C looks really good. What would be the capacity of this new stadium?
Please do expansion of greek stadiums!!!
There's already a video of the Greek league my friend
Can you get a trowel and start building it now mate
Love option C but i think will be tough to get conservationist to not oppose it, no matter what you agree to compromise with. Option A is a great short to medium term option and can definitely see it happening. Option B would NEVER happen for the same reason we havent been able to do it for years now (because of blocking the light to the listed buildings). GREAT VIDEO and amazing work put into this, great job !
Not a Newcastle fan, but Option C looks Awesome 👌
How did u make these concepts what's the software 🤔
I was wondeing so I could have a go for my own stadium
You cant spell Newcastle and option B would never be permitted as it would block light out to the listed University Buildings behind.
what a genius!
Had to add my comment here also ( From X ): Forget which is the best option.. What a fantastic presentation.. Whomever did this.. Well done.. Absolutely brilliant! 🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤 A wonderful viewing experience.. HWTL! Thank you. Sincerely! 😍👍😍👍
Option B is a non starter. The new East stand would cause right to light issues with Leazes terrace behind. Plus I’m not convinced that you could gain enough room for such a massive stand by moving the pitch a few metres. KZheadr Tyneside Life seems to think Option C is the likely option but the pitch wouldn’t be moved quite as much as this video suggests. The East stand would still need to be smaller than the others albeit not as small as it is now and it could blend better with the rest of the stadium.
Option C is similar to what Spurs ended up doing, where would Newcastle end up playing for atleast a season doubt Sunderland would let them play home matches. Option B would be good, they need to get move on as the stadium is a host for the Euros and I'm sure they'd want more matches at an expanded ground
Option B has quite a cool San Siro feel to it but it's got to be option C. If you're going to do it then go for it.
You guys in the comments wanting C should be ashamed of themselves
Groundshare with Sunderland.
Someone said Valencia's Mastella stadium is really narrow and steep so could we not use their design to make a new East stand?
Option A - Feasable Option B - Illegaly narrow pitch not happening. Option C - Unique Grade 1 listed structure in the way, not happening. Option D you didnt try, turn the pitch 90 degrees, build 2 colossal grandstands on the north and south sides and get what you can out of the end stands, north and south is where we have the real estate so we need to amximise the seats pointing from those directions.
I agree with others on option c. It removes the burden of the terrace and looks like it could be a better setting. Definately need to keep St james park name though
nice.. but I think the owners would go for a new stadium elsewhere if they can.. too much will be spent on the same stadium otherwise which will not add to the asset on the balance sheet, but rather they have to amortize the cost of the development instead.. building a new one as the one in option C would seem plausible from the financial point of view, but could present a problem with the local council me think.. building on an entirely new site would allow NUFC to book in a new building as an asset.. and then dispose of the current one to negate the cost..
Option B is not an option - impossible due to it affecting Leazes Terrace (listed status)
Option d build a brand new stadium would be great as it's still in a city located
Option b can not happen for houses around the ground then option c is knocking down st james park which is not happing any time soon so it will be option a
Option A
Id say option B. Its a relatively cheap option, genius and also keeps the history of St James park. However option C looks cool as hell by the park and lake and would create 5 star facilities for the club
This concept art is amazing and very cleverly done! However, it is clearly for entertainment purposes only and makes no consideration for significant land restrictions that will prevent certain aspects of the designs. For example, the Grade I listed Leazes Tce building prevents an East Stand structure of that size and any build in its entirety in Leazes Park will be prohibited due to its Grade II listed status. That’s a none starter. I’ve carried out significant research into this topic and covered the results over 7 videos. I would welcome you contacting me to discuss some ideas. Many thanks 👍🏻
"To discuss, the realistic re build" wow ! The *vision, graphics, technology is mind blowing. Idk,
@@AnthonyODOnnell-tt8gh everything but the vision. It has no basis in reality and I’ve explained above. Everything else is amazing, the graphics, the use of software technology etc… but it’s for entertainment
@@TynesideLifeI understand the restrictions regarding leazes park but honestly, this is what’s holding us back, narrow minded fuddy duddys who bleat about a piece of land that in reality very few people use or even know about, looking at the graphics it’s quite clear to see that this whole area would be rejuvenated and I suspect a lot more people would be inclined to use/visit it, yes it would be a massive project and would probably upset certain members of the public but we can’t stand still, we have to move forward or be left behind, money talks and rightly or wrongly, we have plenty of it 😁.
please add capacity number for each options. Otherwise great video
Option A would be around 62-63k, option B is a bit more difficult to say, but I say with the capacity lost on the milburn and the leazes would be similar, maybe a bit more at 65k. Option 3 would be at least 70k
@@phil1721 Option c then , no brainer, and it looks mighty impressive
@@phil1721 So- B only SJP