Why Verstappen’s Dominance Feels Different to Anything Else
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The "unprecedented reliability" jinx is unbelievable
bruhhhhhhhhhhhh i was about to say
jinx of a lifetime
we need you to talk more about the " reliability " xD i watched the video just 20 min before the race
OMG Aldas you need to do a video like this every race weekend!!
bruh
The reason why it feels different is it’s a driver dominating and not the team. Other teams and drivers can challenge Perez on track and do, while Verstapen seems untouchable
Same shit with Vettel vs Mercedes. He pocketed Bottas twice.
@@neb530 not quite the same as Hamilton wasn’t untouchable then
@@jackcowling5969i totally agree, since jeddah 2021 Q3 lap crash until Monaco 2023 spin, you rarely saw a mistake from Max, that for me is the difference between MSC and HAM era
exactly, max was fighting with sainz with his right rear constantly somewhat on. Insane
You may say it's both Max and RedBull being perfect all the time (although somehow this doesn't extend to Sergio, for whatever reason)
Max's is that the gamer who even after finishing a game still wants to get 100% completion. Even after winning the title with 5 races to go he still won every race last year. His relentless desire to win after winning the championship is incredible. He is possible the last driver you want to have a dominant car because unlike other champions he never has an off day. You can argue about who the fastest is between Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton or Verstappen is and their arguments for all of them. But in terms of consistency and machine like efficiency, we are witnessing another level
Wait till he gets a mediocre car then well see how patient and consistent it is. As Alonso said, "It is the Car".
@@krunalgode3391 We've already seen him in a mediocre car? Look 2015-2020..
@@krunalgode3391we have seen him in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th fastest car. And he was always class, even though aggressive in overtakes etc.
@@krunalgode3391what has he been driving before 2022, or even 2021?
@@xJeTzzDriXx I saw him crashing 2 times every 5 races before he had the fastest car lol
The thing with Verstappen is that everyone saw this coming years in advance. For a long time there has been a consensus that Lewis and Max are the top 2 drivers in F1. We knew that whenever Red Bull gave Max a competitive car, which was a matter of time, that he was going to win multiple world championships.
The first season, you understood that this kid will do wonders
There are _many_ drivers you could say the same about, take Alonso for instance
@@HilbertXVIThe difference with Alonso is he was changing teams constantly. A lot of those decision to change teams being really dumb imo. Max stuck with a team for years trusting the process that at some point they were gonna deliver a title winning car.
@@HilbertXVI You may think that there are _many_ drivers you could say the same about, but I strongly disagree. Brazil 2016 showed exactly how special Max is. And how more special he is than other special drivers. The Brazilian crowd was literally chanting _”SENNA…SENNA…SENNA…”_ towards Max. Or as Hamilton’s boss said in *2016* on live German television: _“This is a once in a century talent. There has never been a driver like him and if you ask me there wil never be another with that level of natural talent.”_ (Niki Lauda)
Lies again? Transformers Movies Dirt Rally
The reason it feels different is the amount of consecutive wins Verstappen gets is incredible, plus Red Bulls mechanics and engineers have built a very reliable car. During Schumachers, Hamiltons &Vettels dominent eras they didnt win every race, other drivers won the occasional races throughout the season
Tbh Mercedes screwed up a lot in their era. Red bull are showing us they've been the best team around for a long time
you didnt watch the video? He clearly states the difference is external factors like the FIA not introducing regs to slow them down like they did to hamilton and schumy. No reliability issues in 2 years. No competition inside redbull between drivers. Your comprehension is shocking.
Not really the Schumacher era - but yes Lewis would have the off race 2/3 times a year and then merc would make a race loosing error 1/2 a season
@@hebisty4163FIA have done MULTIPLE things to slow RB down, mostly because Toto and Lewis were crying. Remember the “unsafe” pit stop rule change? Remember the ride height change? Those changes were meant to slow down RB. Your comprehension is shocking.
Yeah this is wrong@@hebisty4163
IMO it feels different because SkySports tells us its different. We didn’t hear domination being a negative when it was Mercedes and Lewis.
British bias, the usual thing.
@@Arsenic71 We didn't have that during schumi's era either, it's nothing to do with British bias
There was always the sense that Lewis had to fight for his wins though, sure he had dominant periods, but the most races he won in a row was 5, the most races he won in a season was 11. Compare to Max who won 19 of the 21 races last season, it's not even a competition. At least with Lewis he fought with Rosberg from 2014-16 and with Vettel from 2017-2019. It was only 2020 where I feel he was truly dominant and even then there were still other race winners.
@@james_holder IMO Mercedes managed very closely who won races, to ensure their second driver cam second in the championship and that Mercedes wind the constructors championship. This was also evident when Lewis’ crew were moved to Nico’s side for one year when he wind the drivers championship…I reckon this is evidence of Mercedes managing who won what. RB haven’t had drivers close enough to Max, so have not had to prioritise their second driver in races as much.
@@cuscoothriyas5163 Of course we did!!! EveRyOne back then complained about *Schumi’s dominance* and how BORING F1 was becoming. I even stopped watching F1 for a season or two. Hence WHY Alonso’s victories and Kimi’s challenges became so extremely relevant.
Its just sad when you saw people hate max because of his dominance. They bully him and redbull instead of supporting and pushing their own favorite team. I don't have a favourite driver, but hating and bullying on one is just pathetic yk, very unsportsman like.
Exactly
Idk why but i hate max for some reason
@@nihalbhamrah4726 lol
Who’s here after the smooth operation
The smooth operator still had to wait for Max car to blow up. Max made zero mistakes.
I'm still looking for it after Melbourne.
Watching now for over 30 years, this is not boring, this is special
You left out the FACT that Mercedes had two years developing the hybrid power unit before anyone else was allowed to.
Merc literally set the hybrid standard. And then it was locked in, so no-one was able to catch up.
Really? Why is that?
Yo I'm curious too where can I read about this
@@Aceliious Ask the FIA i guess
@@Endslikecrazy FIA are corrupt 😂😂
i think the things that are helping max the most are the increased number of races a year and the sim racing honestly, like sure he's not the best over 1 lap, but the sheer number of races he's competed in (both irl and online) have allowed him to develop his racecraft to such a high level, plus the fact that his attitude that only a win is really good enough (while he has the best car, i wouldn't be surprised to see that mentality hurt him if he's in another super tight championship battle). also side note: it still blows me away that in 2012 we had the championship winners for every season from 2000 to 2020 on the grid
I think Max is also the best over one lap, the RedBull not being setup for qualifying is giving a false impression that Max is not as good as Leclerc, whose Ferrari IS setup for qualifying
Do you realize that Max has already completed more races than Hakkinen and Senna at only 26 y/o 😨
Who won in 2012? The goal vettel
@@flom1951 yes very much so, but even if he's only doing like 10 sin races a year, that's still far more racing than hakinnen, schumacher or even the likes of hill and clark were ever really doing each season like
@@Alsael nah max defo isnt the best over 1 lap, look at leclerc in 2019 (ferrari and red bull were p even for 2nd) or even in 2021 (max only got 8 poles in what was for a good chunk of the year the best car)
Firstly... he won the most consecutive races in history.... 19 out of the last 20. Secondly, both Schumacher (who was my idol) and Ham did mistakes, here and there. Max doesn't make mistakes (anymore).
True but he is under no pressure whatsoever
@@iversongmdHes not under pressure and still finishes 12/22 secs in front of NR2. That says something about discipline and consistency. Edit: oh and takes fastest lap whenever possible
@@fixxa6455 2021 season has taught him that every single point counts. So he tries to take every single point possible.
That reliability Stat aged well😅
This whole “faster over one lap” is the miss congeniality of F1, points are scored at the grand prix not at qualifying.
Totally agree. And Leclerc is surely not the fastest
Though starting position makes that a fuck ton easier
@@Villani_AV and that’s why Charles has that 23/5 pole to win ratio?
It's an objective indication of skill.
@@alvarojneto not necessarily, don’t get me wrong Leclerc is a terrific driver but in 2022/23 for example, it was more the characteristics of Ferrari than Leclerc himself (again, not hating him). Ferrari was able to generate more heat in the tires and therefore was able put them in the operating window easier which was great for qualifying, but during the long runs it caused a lot more deg. Looking back to the races Leclerc in the first a laps was able to build a gap to be free from drs but after some laps they begin to lose performance on the tires and it was a matter of time.
3:06 I dont know man those monaco and saudis laps are mighty
I would still say he’s better over a race distance than he is in qualifying
@@NovaDaGoat agreed. But qualifying is definitely one of his strengths and not his weakness.
@@ManWithSum I wouldn't call it a weakness, more like the fact that he isn't a "pole hound". He knows he can win regardless.
Just because it’s a weakness, doesn’t mean he’s bad at it
I think that goes to show how good his race management is, even if he can put int those quali laps when quali is deemed a "weakness".
2 things, I think the biggest difference in the Merc domination and Red Bull is that, Merc and/or Lewis occasionally had bad days. Germany 2019, Austria 2018, Monza 2020 and 70th anniversary GP comes to mind which allowed other teams to capitalise, which arguably Red Bull/Max, seem to have very few, if not any, for example since the TD that effectively began the full fledged dominance, they have made 2 mistakes in set up which allowed Russell to win in Brazil and Sainz to win in Singapore. Secondly, the biggest difference in this domination is Max. Say what you will about the car and his teammate, no wdc has had THIS level of consistency. To put it into context, since 2021, when he has finished a race without damage, which is 60 in total, he has won 46 of them, p2 11 times, p3 once in Monaco and p5 and p7 in Singapore, which is consistency unlike we've ever seen. Maybe a bit of luck in a couple of races, but to consistently bring it home and not make a single mistake is something else.
In 2022 Ferrari was very close, only the 2nd half of the season was Verstappen domination. In 2023 you also had Singapore. People pretend he has won everything in the last 5 years. It's been a very brief domiance. Which is likely continuing til 2026, unless Red Bull nail the regs again.
But its much worse than before considering the lack of competition for Max. Nobody can beat him unless his car breaks and that never happens. This is really bad and suddenly F1 doesnt seem to mind the domination either and doesnt propose changes@@miker7920
Singapore wasn't a setup issue, they anticipated the car would do badly there because of the floor concept. So technically the team have only had 1 mistake.
Thank you. I think Aldas forgot the most important difference, the driver. Verstappen is a different beast from Hamilton & Vettel.
@@Gamurboi well yes that is true but they also lost all their learning from fp1 and fp2 as they changed the ride height if I'm not mistaken and effectively were hamstrung the rest of the weekend, which may not be a mistake as such, but was a fault considering it was an otherwise perfect season.
Verstappen is the key. We never had a driver with this much talent and a good car at the same time. Max is such a monster now. The consistency is insane. Only thing stopping him is his car shitting itself 😄
Bro jinxed the reliability of redbull
Another difference is that teams used to build their cars with different philosophies and the drivers, especially in the Bridgestone V Michelin era, would have different driving styles. Which would make it interesting to watch. Now, Max and Red Bull are so dominant that everyone is trying to copy them at least to some extent, and Red Bull can’t be beat at their own game.
Teams do not like having less rules. They don´t want another Brawn GP situation where the big teams get embarrassed by a creative smaller teams, they come up with more rules so they can spend more than the little teams and they can´t be out done with creativity. I really wish we had another constructors open wheel series with less restrictions than F1.
@@MrSilverfish12Brawn GP didnt develop that car it was the car of the Honda f1 team which wasnt small by any means. They slapped their own name on it because Honda suddenly pulled out of f1.
@@kevinvanharen1740 yes Honda did develope it but the technical team was still lead by Ross Brawn. He tried to anticipate the rules creatively with a smaller budget and this is exactly what big teams don't like.
They copy RB because the fia changed the rules so only one concept works, and that was whatever redbull started with. The dominance is due to the rule changes, not due to the work of Red Bull.
@@zrpggamer the same can be said about Mercedes and their engines. It's well known that they started researching hybrids in 2010 then Daimler pushed the FIA to have it for 2014. The teams didn't stand a chance until Honda got it right in 2021
He is too damn consistent, he doesn't have an off button man won his third before the Suzuka GP but you wouldn't know that by how he drove the rest of the season. If you want atleast some excitement this season somebody needs to step up like Max did in 2016-2020 during the Mercedes dominance, but so far none of them have. Zandvoort with the insanely tricky conditions should have been that opportunity instead Max just put in another master class wet drive.
These manufacturers can’t step up to plate. And F1 needs to allow closer racing these ground effect cars ain’t it go back to 2021 cars
Well he didn’t lmao
@@rapidshot3033 these cars definitely allow closer racing than 2021 cars tho? it was the whole point of the reg changes. other teams are just too slow. either that or max is just way better than everyone else
@@wohnie39max is okay but that deficit comes from thw car, its a motor racing competition little buddy, you want to relax yourself.
@@Wonderkid44 "little buddy" tf even is that 💀you don't know me bro and i am relaxed, where in my comment did you get a hint of aggressiveness? you're yappin just to yap at this point, im not even a max fan but it's clear as day it's not just the car, and you have to be delusional to think otherwise, but i guess you do have 44 in your name so that explains it
If people must use the argument that Max has the best car and 'only' Perez as a team-mate, then they must also accept that of Hamilton's 7 titles, 5 of them were with lesser drivers than Perez, ie. Kovailainen and Bottas.
Bruh Perez is much worse than Bottas ☠️
@@FoxhoundSe7enno he isn't look at the statistics perez isn't bad
@FoxhoundEvo Yeah because Bottas is really shining these days...
@@FoxhoundSe7enNo he is around the same level.
The point is Hamilton won 2 titles with a teammate that was a top level driver as well in Rosberg. Hamilton was just better he won 3/4 seasons against Rosberg and if he had better mechanical luck in 2016 it would have been 4/4. Hamilton has raced against Fernando Alonso a two time WDC, in the same car, and he beat him as a rookie. Hamilton had Button another WDC as a teammate and Hamilton beat him 2/3 seasons as well. Hamilton is 7-1 against WDC teammates when equalizing for mechanical DNFs. That’s incredible. No other driver in history comes close. Ricciardo actually outscored Max when they were teammates, despite having more DNFs, and look where Ricciardo is now. So what does that say about Max? We want to see a top driver in that seat alongside Max, and see what Max is really made of. That’s never gonna happen though.
FIA has changed the rules in 2022 with increased floor height. In the end it hurt Ferrari more than RB.
That’s always funny to me since RB wasn’t happy with that TD and Horner kept saying it won’t affect them but no one believed them. And right after the TD got implemented the gap got even bigger.
@@EstellammaSS and to put salt into the wound, that TD is why the Ferrari stopped challenging RedBull in 2022
@@EstellammaSS I wouldn't put it past Horner to act like that to egg the changes on tbh
@@EstellammaSS It was so funny how Mercedes were the ones pushing for that TD the most and when it has taken effect at the 2022 Belgium GP Mercedes were 2 seconds off Red Bull in qualifying.
Max started becoming the driver he is today after crashing in qualifying for Monaco 2018.
1000% true. he changed his attitude and took a major step forward.
He said that that weekend he had a car that could win the race and the only reason he lost was because of his mistake in Q2 of that race.
I personally think that the 2020 Season is what we see now. Verstappen 2018-2019 was a hybrid of consistency but with some individual errors (Spa 2019 and Italy 2019) and some punishments (some races in 2018). But in 2020 he came much more consistent, more determined, he was very angry in 2020, but you didn't see punishments or individual errors like we saw after Monaco 2018-2019, and if we did, it was a very rare mistake from him. So much so that all of his retirements (ironically, the one he abandoned most) were mechanical or tire punctures in 2020. For example, is the first season that he doesn't end a race due to his mistake
Hamilton involved in at least 6 crashes every season.. Never gets mentioned.. More than any other driver in the last 30 years. Crashstappen gives you another perspective of what Sky propraganda is broadcasting...
Your conclusion is therefore that Max is lucky, doesn't have serious competition, the rules favour him and the FIA won't do anything about it. Sure mate ;)
Typical Aldas :) Lewis thanks to the dominating Mercedes became GOAT and Max thanks to RB became lucky xd
Because Max on top of being more consistent driver actually focuses on racing. He literally goes simRacing after scoring pole position
That's a sign of coasting not exactly a sign of hardwork
He hardly ever races anyone on track because he's leading so much. It makes sense he wants to drive in something that will let him actually race.
@@KailamiMwiinga how does he coast when he consistently win races in 1st? How do you become the best at what you do for a living against everyone when you're just coasting?
@@Gigi-zr6hp If you are winning with your engine not at maximum power means you are coasting... In F1, the "World Drivers Champion" is not always the best driver (see 09). Until Max is in a car which is rivaled by other great drivers, will never how good he is...
Adrian Newey and Red Bull deal with rule changes better than any other team... Verstappen is benefitting from superior engineering.
The red bull isnt even the historically most dominant car, Verstappen is just so dominant. Hamilton fans are just malding
It took Mercedes several seasons to address stability problems due to regulation changes... RB and Adrien Newey dealt with them almost instantly... Engineering dominance is behind the latest monopoly for R.B.
true. Aldas admitted openly he is Hamilton fan.
I think the main difference is presentation. Rather than being celebrated, dominance is demonized, even in official coverage. As if being good was a bad thing all of a sudden...
They tried doing the Max hype train but Max's charisma does not match his driving talents. He's just a very very good driver, not a media icon like Hamilton.
@@wiegraf9009 he's just prone to calling out bullshit, while Hamilton just goes with it
The question here is not what Red Bull is doing - it's what other teams are doing. Why is no one of them even narrowly capable of beating them? It's hard to believe that Ferrari and Mercedes are that incompetent of making competitive cars for years, while other teams seem completely incapable of going to the top and seem comfortable of where they are. Compare it to, say, 2004 season. Ferrari was absolute beast while McLaren and Williams dropped the ball. However, Renault and BAR were there to pick up scraps and at least attempt to challenge Ferraris, making that season at least somewhat entertaining. So, if Ferrari and Mercedes are "McLaren" and "Williams" today, my question is where are "Renaults" and "BARs"? That complacency is what ruins sport nowadays and it gets extra sad when you take in consideration that a lot of great drivers are essentially getting wasted.
Pretty easy answer actually: Cost cap.
@@illyricus. yh, the positives of the cost cap are that we have an uber competitive field. the problem is that teams can't burn money to fix their issues, like Merc probably would've built a whole new car during 2022 instead of running the same concept for 2 years. In 2023 they had the zero-side pod chassis for a non zero-side pod design and only now have a proper chassis.
the cost cap plays a crucial role here cause look at merc long ass dominances other team caught back up 2018, 2021, 2019
Ferrari and Mercedes used to throw money at the problem, while Red Bull had less money at that time so Red Bull had to learn how to be resourceful! Ferrari and in particular Mercedes were exposed for not being resourceful, so then Red Bull are reaping the rewards!
“who are the Renaults and BARs?” Aston and mclaren, bro. Did you watch last season?
I think you hit the nail on the head with the analysis. I've always felt that Max's dominance is different to that of previous eras, but I couldn't quite put my finger on what it was. But you've got it spot on. And as someone who wasn't watching during the Schumacher era, I never knew about the qualifying/race pace discrepancy between the Michelins and Bridgestones. I thought it was just 2005 where the regulation changes hurt the Bridgestone runners. Another great video!
It probably feels different because there are just way too many races these days and no team is even close to red bull and max
like I said before, this is basically mercedes domination 2.0 Secondly, the cost cap is actually big blunder actually
@@johnlau6749 yeah it is but what's even worse is no team has even closed the gap to red bull in these regulations. If anything it's gotten bigger and will continue to do so unless something is done about the cost cap or these regulations end
@@mihirarjun2791exactly what i usually tell peeps and they'll say cause I'm not a fan of RB 2010-2013 is the best RB era They really showed how good they are
@mihirarjun2791 In better news though, Vettel is doing WEC.
Imo, the most disappointing thing about this is unlike other eras. There are so many elite drivers on the grid. That are having their talent wasted in this era because of the cost-cap etc. Lewis, George, Charles, Fernando to name four, are incredible drivers, who’d be winning races if it was like the Mercedes era from 2014-2020. If they were winning a race every so often (which they’re all capable of doing) it’d be a lot better. Which may have an effect on how some people look back on this era. Max, again, is an incredible driver. But I wouldn’t be surprised if we hear the excuse in the future of: “it’s not that impressive as he only had to be better than Checo and Max is obviously better than Checo. It’s not like he defeated Lewis or George or Charles or Fernando or even Norris or Piastri or Sainz fair and square. He had a car so much faster than them that the car did pretty much all of the work. He just had to better than Perez” as an example. Which isn’t fair to Max. But I can see that point being used to discredit what a great driver Max is.
It's funny because I remember in 2020 people rated Perez very highly. Some people called him top 5 on the grid. Now he's hated to hell
he defeated Lewis in equal or worse machinery and had significantly more bad luck that season as well. The difference in this era is that Max is more stable than any driver has ever been. The gap between the car isnt as big as Max makes it seem. Lewis underperformed in 25-30% of the races even during Merc's dominance, Max does so maybe once in 20 races (at most).
deluded
You seem to forget he did beat Sainz fair and square before he even had a drivers license back in 2015. Other than that it's hard to look past his consistency.
You in a different comment: "However, the issue is that Red Bull is so far ahead that it’s only Perez can win races other than Max. And Max is just a better driver than Checo." You in this comment: "Which isn’t fair to Max. But I can see that point being used to discredit what a great driver Max is." Isn't it ironic that you are making that argument in a different comment on this video? Of course you wouldn't be surprised, you are initiating and vehemently arguing this point already.
I think it's just one factor.... He doesn't have any challenger for the title. Schumacher had Raikkonen and Montoya Vettel had Alonso Hamilton had Vettel Verstappen It only has its own fast laps.
I like how you refer to Verstappen as "it". Man's a freaking robot driving that car.
@@viskyboi1275 I think it's not IT but LT (short for literally)
you are right. Max has only low level opponents like Hamilton, Alonso, Leclerc,and Sainz. LOL
@@sluischris I'm not referring to the drivers entirely, I'm referring to a rival who pushes him beyond his limit, and lets be honest The only ones capable are Hamilton and Alonso, but the level of the car is far above everyone, give the same RB20 to Hamilton or Fernando and they would be breathing down Max's neck.
Schumacher had Villeneuve, Hakkinen, Montoya, Raikkonen, Alonso, and of course, Williams cars.
The floor reduction changes for 2021 were not universally seen as a disadvantage for Mercedes. In fact, the jury was still out on which type of car would profit from it until it became clear that Mercedes had drawn the shortstick.
he knows it, but he's just manipulating the information to fit the narrative Typical Aldas :)
If nico wasnt on the grid it would have felt exactly the same for the mercedes domination that it does for the r.b
Max’s consistency and ruthlessness is an underrated factor. Lewis and others would ease up after getting the championship and could take a loss or two. Max lost twice to Perez then went on a rampage and crushed his soul and he never lets up.
3:10 Leclerc is the fastest over one lap Sainz: hold my appendix
Dominant team (working like a well-oiled machinery) Dominant car (designers fully understanding the ground-effect concept and are able to play with it) Dominant driver (consistent, very few mistakes and driving like a metronome , already a once-in-a-lifetime driver) Yes, this is very different...
Arguably FIA tried to stop Red Bull with the TD39
Only 1 and half years and everyone is already crying, love it.
We all have a personal favourite driver, the one you admire the most and your all time best. But Max is so perfect, it seems like he is in a league of his own.
Doing a 360 and winning by huge margins is not perfect my guy
@@andrehoward5130 no, but taking every milisecond of the car, not having a single mistake during Qualy or Race is perfection. If you dont like it its ok, but just see the graphics of his races, he nails the same exact time every single lap of the race. Try not to cry so much my guy
@@manustrasser9056 didn't know I was responding to a child..... max is not beyond criticism none of these drivers are.
@@andrehoward5130 how am I exactly a child? Funny cause you are the one not paying any attention. What i said does not conflict with what you said. Of course you can criticise it, but on track he is the no. 1, also acknowledged by the other F1 drivers like Lando or Alonso
@@andrehoward5130grow up
Ferrari how I remember them: Ross Brawns 5D-Chess moves like that 4-stopper at Magny-Cours against Renaut, completely relying on Schumi's ability to deliver insane lap afer lap Ferrari ever since: "We are checking"
It is very funny watching old races and hearing the commentary talking about Ferrari's "strategic genius" 🤣
I’ve been saying max is Michael reincarnated. He’s relentless pursuit of wanting to win even tho he has already bagged the title. That’s a trait the greatest drivers have( Hamilton and Schumacher)From the start of 2021 max has won 46 races in 3 years. Let that sink in. I don’t even think he has reached his peak yet. We are witnessing a talent that is coming to more rare air in the realm of all time greats.
More like, Max is Clark and Senna reincarnated. Max got Senna's racing mentality and aggressiveness, and he's got Clark's consistency. I think he does have a bit of Schumacher in terms of mentality as well which Schumacher also learned from Senna.
20 of the last 21 races. That’s why. During the other periods, other people *did* win.
Lets be honest here, RedBull have always been a championship team without an engine. Mercedes were able to anticipate the rules better and Toto practically vetoed anything to do with engine regs from 2014 to 2020. Even with the new ground effect cars, the engine regs have not really changed all that much and will be the same till 2026. Toto´s biggest mistake was thinking his engines could overcome the dominant aero that Newey would have prepared for the RB. He got arrogant and pays the price every race now.
That's just false, Redbull didn't have a good enough car in the previous era of cars, outside of 2021 where the rules were changed to hurt Mercedes. Mercedes were making the best chassis in 2014, 2015,2016,2017,2018,2019,2020. Redbull wasn't even number 2. 2015 to 2020 they were miles away. Newey is just a god of ground effects, and on top of that td39 and the 2023 rule change killed the competition and gave Red Bull years of advantage over the rest. Totto's mistake is pushing for rules that hurt the compeition, raising the minimum heights of the cars hurt all the car concepts barring the RB one, practically created the dominance.
@@zrpggamer nah I don't believe this for a second. If you watch the onboards of the Ferrari and Redbulls you can see how much power the Mercedes engine had from 2014-2020. Ferrari had to build an illegal engine just to have a fighting chance. It's also well known that when Ross Brawn sold the team to Mercedes in 2010, he was already anticipating the hybrid v6 era. They started researching those engines VERY early. Also RedBull were still winning races with arguably the worst engine on the grid(Renault) before they switched to Honda. Redbull had some amazing cars from 2016-2020 but you could clearly see they did not have the power to compete. Also Mercedes refusing to provide them with a power unit is very telling too.
@MrSilverfish12 ferrari had a good engine in 2018 and 2017. And Mercedes were using illegal fuel flows as well, ferrari just did it better than them in 2019.
@MrSilverfish12 redbull were so far off in some of those years that the deficit wasn't just engine. Mercedes made the best chassis every year from 2014 to 2021.
@@zrpggamer the 2017 all the way 2019 engines at Ferrari were not legal. This is why they were basically no where after 2019 because of the technical directive. They did not "do better" it was an illegal engine and the only reason they didn't get penalized is because the FIA couldn't figure out how they were doing it and agreed to show them in confidence to improve the FIA's scrutineering in the future. Again the Mercedes chasis played a minimal role in their dominance. It was mostly the engine, this is why Toto worked hard against any changes to the engine regs, he KNEW the advantage he had. You need to watch the onboards from those years again. You don't get acceleration like that with simply having a good chasis.
I think a big part of it is the gap between Checo and Max, and the sheer excellence of Red Bull's strategic calls and Max's driving. In the Rosberg v Hamilton era we got a fight for the lead, even if it wasn't between multiple teams, it was intense and entertaining. Post-Rosberg, Mercedes still was very dominant but they tend to make a lot more mistakes when compared to Red Bull, which provided opportunity for other teams to pick up a win here and there when Mercedes missed a strategic call or wasn't able to find the best setup for the track. These past few seasons, Red Bull and Max have made so few mistakes it's absurd, the only off day they've had in 2 years was Singapore last year, and I guess last weekend in Australia. It's insane. Also the way other teams haven't managed to get good balance or performance out of their cars in over 2 years speaks a lot about their development process vs the Airbender Newey.
Leclerc isn't the best quali driver. That's thanks to car setup. Because where is Leclerc during the race? Pole to win ratio! And how many times did Leclerc crash his car because he is always driving over the limit? We all saw the stellar quali lap from Max and Fernando during last year's Monaco Race weekend. A Leclerc would have ended up in the wall.
Yeah max has a faster car which is why charles drives thr way he does and its a risk and I admire that
You're just brain dead. Leclerc puts a shitbox on pole, he's just talented. Instead of hating on the guy you should just appreciate the talent and not be a hater.
The Ferraris suffered from tire deg, that obviously hurts way more in the race than it does in qualifying. They seem to have fixed that this year, seeing Charles first stint in Japan. I'm pretty sure they will have little competition for the runner up spot this year.
the way I see it is every all-great drivers can hit a similar level in top level pace but the abnormal consistency is only been achieved by podiums of Schumacher and wins of verstappen
His focus is something else. Even during their most dominant years Schumacher and Hamilton would have their incidental mistakes that would result in losses, DNF's or at least interesting races. But Max seems to almost not do self inflicted mistakes right now. And I am having a hard time remembering the last time when he lost because of a mistake of his own making.
The last one I think was Jeddah 2021 qualifying. After that, I don't remember him making a mistake that would cost him something in the end.
The big difference for me is the growing frustration not at max or RB but the other teams who seem to cannot get their shit together … There are always been superior cars , pilot and team in super execution show but there was always hope coming from the others tires, strategy etc … and here there just isn’t …
Max has had two years of super domination like McLaren in 1988 and 1989. Hopefully Ferrari can do in 2024 what they did in 1990 or even better.
There actually was an effort to stop Red Bull very early with TD39 but it actually stopped everyone else.
Toto's Directive 39 🤣
@NeedforMine1 TD39 was done on safety, not because of Todo.
There where a few actually but that doesn’t fit the British narrative
@@titanmode3888 I didn't say anything about Toto
@@titanmode3888 Ah yes. For “safety” huh. Just like those pitstop regulations that totally weren’t aimed at RBR, right?
Max is the best ever because of 2 things. His ease of adoption and his dedication. Bro relaxes with simraces. I have no doubt that if you’d put max in the other car during the mentioned domination of the other drives Max would have crushed him.
I think rather than having Max or rather criticising his dominance and calling that F1 is boring when he wins , we should be blaming other teams for not being as efficient and as reliable as Red Bull right now ! I mean Charles or Sainz or Lewis can still win races if they get the correct cars! F1 can again be competitive if other cars compete neck to neck with Max and Red Bull! I'd just wish to see Max win another championship because he is giving his best and will always will and deserve it well! Criticise as you will and Red Bull's will maintain their dominance!!,🔥
This spreading of false information about the 2021 regs being designed to slow down Mercedes needs to stop. The rules were requested by Pirelli to cope with aero, and initially it was excpected for Merc to have the advantage from this rule change, but it wasn't to be. The 2017 regs were also not specifically designed to slow down Mercedes the way Ferrari was screwed in 2004 for example, even if Merc's engine advantage eventually diminshed a lot. However, Mercedes surely have gotten their fair share of gifts from FIA during the new Red Bull era, like the BS pit stop rule in 2021 and the 2022 mid-season change to help porpoising.
and they literally banned the rear wing setup RB had in 2021 by merc complaining. a wing setup that was legal in that it passed testing. so a different test was devised mid season.
@@dco1019 Yep, I forgot that.
I think you should’ve mentioned Jim Clark’s run of dominance. I believe Max is completely in-tuned with his machine, he is basically an extension of the car. That’s what they said about Clark.
Jim Clark winning the F1 Championship and the Indy 500 in the same year is the most insane feat in motorsport history
With Max the whole Red Bull team has become a well oiled machinery. The mechanics and engineers love him and respect him for his attitude towards them and the concise feedback he gives them. He doesn't behave like a 'star', but acts as if he is one of them. Add to that his talents and consistency as a driver...
The rule changes in the past were necessary because of huge budget differences like Mercedes had. Nowadays there is a budget cap and even lesser time in the windtunnel for the winner. It makes it even more special that there is a driver dominating like Max does. Really special. Max is the GOAT.
I think Charles is the best over 1 Lap, he is super inconsistent though, Max is consistent, he is fast over 1 lap also one of the fastest and can find lap time if he needs to, such as Jeddah 2021, Monaco 2023, I think he is just aware that he has the better race car, and therefor theres no reason to risk it.
Max is a human metronome
Okay but that is also unfair to Charles, Charles can be inconsistent but he's ringing the neck out of more difficult machinery. Look how consistent Lewis looked in the W11 or Max in the RB19, yeah they're consistent but they have stable and strong machinery that inspires confidence and consistency, Charles has never had a season with that. Lewis and Max can also have bad weekends when they get lemons as we saw with Lewis in this era and Max in the last.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanksmax just makes the rb19 look stable
@@griffin6219 He does but then so does Checo and we all know Checo isn't on Max level so what does that tell you..
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks checo makes the car look stable? he has like an average gap of .5 to max and struggled to adapt to max his setups. checo has mostly looked good in the beginning of the year 2023 and this year (on the easy new age F1 tracks with smooth asphalt and uniformity) when the real tracks arrived he started struggling massively to get close.. failing to get Q3 even like 5 times in a row. so no, checo doesnt make the car look stable. We will see this year.. he looks better but the car is getting more stable and familiar now too for him.
i think you are forgetting that the wind tunnel restrictions and cost cap reductions based on constructor standings slow redbull down, so i dont think they have it any easier than the others had it with the rule changes aimed at slowing then down.
You don't need as much wind tunnel time and money to fine tune your design if you get it right from the start.
No this is so entirely true, as a MV fan. Even the Merc era gave us interteam battles for a bit.. This era just feels incredibly dull .. with such bright stars on the grid.
Facts. RBs politics of not wanting a serious second guy is hurting his legacy, same as Ferrari did to Michael (well Michael requested that situation and put a veto against them getting Mika and Kimi to the team).
No team wants a Nico-Lewis or Webber-Vettel situation ever again. Hence Bottas and hence Checo can keep his seat if he can keep coming 2nd.
As a Michael Vick fan?
@@flyaway6671 tbf they obviously tried multiple times to get Lando out of Mclaren to them and it doesnt work out because lando himself doesnt like the idee of coming to "Max Team" and realistically there isnt much option outside. Lewis has bad relationship with them, Alonso would be really short term and a lot of negativ media, and leclerc probably feels the same as Lando
@@ehrlichgesagt863 Because Lando doesnt have champion mentality. He always says that Max is the best and how good he is and that they obviously cant win. back in the day you couldnt torture this type of answer out of Schumacher or hamilton or Vettel or Alonso. if you admit someone is better than you in F1 you already lost.
What. A. Video. Awesome explaining as always!
Max deserves a lot of respect and congrats for what he’s done. However, the issue is that Red Bull is so far ahead that it’s only Perez can win races other than Max. And Max is just a better driver than Checo. At least during the Hamilton era, other drivers could win races. Even at their peak in 2020, it wasn’t as boring as 2023 was.
So true. Vettel, Leclerc, Verstappen, Ricciardo, even Perez. Other drivers seized opportunities and won when Mercedes made mistakes. Red Bull just doesn't seem to make mistakes.
As well as in the Schumacher era we had seasons like 2000 2001 and 2003
It's funny how the comment (at this moment) above this one is pointing out that this is a argument being made to make it look less impressive.
At Mercedes peak in 2020 there was only one driver who could challenge them. Basically everyone else was lapped. Guess who?
@@arrownymouse1811What Max has done is incredible. But I can see both sides of the debate. Yes, it’s incredible. But there’s truth in the point that he’s only had to deal with Checo.
The W11 was so good it made all of Merc’s other mediocre factors (drivers, strategy, reliability) irrelevant.
@quigglyz The W11 was fast in qualifying, in race trime it was normal. The RB on th eotherhand is all Newey and even overrated fake champs like Max can win in it.
@@titanmode3888 lmao.. in race trim it was a second faster than anything....they just got the gap and then cruised to save the engine (which was more a concern at the time)
@@titanmode3888😂😂
@@titanmode3888 copium
@@titanmode3888 want fake champs? go watch 2006 onwards and all the career boost hamitlon got.
I guess it's because of the Mercedes ear of dominance that redbull is soo good now. When Mercedes was dominating, Red Bull had to ensure that they are the best in everything apart from the engine. And once the engines were at par, the Bulls had a better design, it pushed them much forward than what anyone hoped.
Because Hamilton and Michael still had to race. Max just needs to show up.
race who? bottas and barrichello? that's partly true, but it wasn't Max fault they were not good enough to qualify always ahead of their wingmans. the pace advantage mercedes and ferrari(in two seasons) had over the rest was a lot bigger than Max and red bull have ever had during their winning stint.
Yeah because Max can only win from pole. I mean, Hungary 2022, Belgium 2022, Miami 2023 never happened.
vertappens brakes caught on fire causing a ferrari one two .as a ferrari boy i loved it
The only difference I notice is the budget caps stopping the main rivals from spending their way out of the lesser cars.... but that could the copium talking.
It’s copium
nah that 100% true, the budget cap is one of the biggest problems
Merc outspent the competition before the budget cap and that's what kept them dominant for so long
It's cope, yeah it is a factor but it's also a skill issue if one team is fumbling with the same/similar resources as another.
Figures, been a Ricardo fan, and my copium dealer recently bought a Bugatti.
my man forget about the TD that raised the floor or about the flexi wing which were all agains radbull XD
The one thing that always gets left out is their dominance comes with a cost cap. I honestly feel that RBs dominance is made more glaring cause of two important factors. Ferrari, Mercedes, Alpine, and McLaren are all technically skilled and resource heavy as anyone. Honestly speaking outside of RB having an generational talent in Max and a great designer there is no reason Merc and Ferrari shouldn’t be at least close technically. I feel like not enough points get made that the other teams fumbled so badly that it made RB look like they competing with amateurs
How would F1 change the rules to try to nerf RB/Max? Other than adding ballast I can’t figure out a way that they could change the rules without also hurting the other teams. RB’s advantage isn’t some trick that only they are doing, they just have the best understanding of ground effect and how to balance a solid overall car.
I've always said success ballast should be a thing in F1. With stuff like DRS you're already effectively making the racing artifically exciting, what's the difference really? And success ballast when used well - as in the BTCC in the 90s - can make a series super competitive and exciting. This dominance thing is F1's biggest problem; McLaren dominated the late 80s, Williams for most of the 90s, Ferrari from the early-mid 00s, Red Bull in the early 2010s, Merc from 2014 to 2020, now we're in the midst of another period of Red Bull domanance. Going back well over 30 years you can count the number of genuinely open, competitive seasons with multiple teams in with a chance of titles on the fingers of one hand. One of those rare seasons was 2021 and it brought a huge audience to the series, but it's immediately reverted back to boring dominance by one team and driver and the new audience feels like its drifting away. F1 and the FIA need to engineer the series to make EVERY year like 2021, and if they have to use artifical means then so be it.
Allow more real world testing and teams further down the grid to spend more.
@@craigcharlesworth1538You can't do success ballast in an open development series that would be insane. Why bother spending boatloads of money on development when you can aim a bit lower and just let the ballast make up the difference for you?
Also don’t forget the banning of “Party Mode” Engine modes. This 100% put Red Bull in the fold.
What is the song/theme called you use in the background?
F1 is an engineer's sport; the WRC is a true driver's sport. If you want to engineer's blueprints face off against each other week in and week out, continue watching F1. If you want to watch drivers squarring off against each and the unpredictability of the elements, watch WRC. It's truly unfortunate the extinct to which F1 dominates all other forms of racing, when F1 drivers are inarguably not the best drivers in the world. It's all marketing at the end of the day.
50/50 go watch back schumacker era, or this era with verstappen jr, neither had the best car on the grid, they just make it work, schumacker was so fast on soft that changing tyres 7 times a race wasnt a problem, verstappen is so consistent that no one can keep up unless they try to kill him like hamilton in silverstone.
The reliability is what makes it very boring imo. In the late 90s or early 2000s, one could still hope for Schumis car to implode on occasion, so there was more variety. That's why we're all craving those few chaotic races that happen on occasion, us older fans remember the days that this was the norm.
I believe the budget cap to be a factor as well. In the past, other teams could spend as much as they want on closing the gap, and some more on creating a car for the next season. Today that is not possible, you will sacrifice next years' car if you want to close the gap this year or vice versa. Meanwhile the one on top can focus on the next season way earlier without having to worry about a thing. Getting the regs right from the start is a much bigger advantage than it used to be.
There were some rule changes in the middle of the last season to try and make the redbull slower, but they didn't work out the way they planned it ay mercedes
Max is a perfect driver in the perfect circumstances
how you jinxed this omgggggg
Max is going to destroy everyone in Suzuka that much harder just to underline that Melbourne is not a representative circuit.
The budget cap is protecting Max Verstappen at the moment he will win the Wdc this season and next season
Those qualifying style race laps schumi would pull out during the race were legendary in how well he managed to consistently do it
He was a monster
I think you have this wrong. Verstapen is probably the best driver ever. His dominance is unprecedented. He never makes a mistake or over drives his tires. Plenty of excellent drivers on the grid today. None can touch him.
It's so bad the biggest talking point at the moment is Williams making a driver step aside. In better news though, Vettel is going to WEC.
I thought Vettel is just testing the 963. It would be great though if he does race there. I hope Max and Alonso compete in WEC too.
I think you missed one thing in particular. The quality of sim racing these days. Younger drivers such as Verstappen, but also Norris, Sainz and Russel, are more used to sim racing off the track at the highest level. Instead of doing their thing in the weekends every 2 or 3 weeks, they do it on a near daily basis, allowing for far higher consistency. Verstappen has even been seen simracing in the morning at 4 Am in his hotel room on the day of the race in Saudi Arabia.
I think Bearman demonstrated the quality of driver training these days: he had less than an hour of practice in a car and then went and still showed competitive lap times and finished the race in the points.
An awful lot said here was well said to me. Dominance in the past, while not ideal still at least had some sustainability via certain external factors such as teammate championship battles like Senna/Prost, Hamilton/Rosberg. Reliability being more of a factor. More teams had relatively competitive cars. Driver attitude was different. The FIA actually made efforts to prevent such insane levels of domination. These factors allowed the sport to retain some portion of interest. Now with Red Bull literally none of these factors apply. Max hasn't got a teammate to take the fight to him. Reliability, (bar that incredibly rare Melbourne moment recently), is almost perfect. Teams don't have competitive cars with Ferrari maybe being our only small hope at this moment in time. The drivers now, bare Lewis, Alonso and maybe Leclerc all accept that Max is the best and don't show enough fight to do anything about it. Lastly the FIA refuse to slow Red Bull down which totally contradicts what they've always done in the past when a team is dominating. This type of domination from Max is not sustainable in any way, and if this year turns out to be pretty much exactly like last year then surely there's no way that the FIA can possibly allow this to continue. Too many people like me will have walked away, cancelled TV subscriptions etc.
Lifelong F1 fan been watching since 2000 and let me tell ya, people complain nowadays about dominance have no idea what it was like during the Schumacher era from 2000-04 when half of us fans couldn’t wait for someone to finally overthrow and topple that single bulletproof Ferrari and then when Alonso finally did it we all thought it would be a 1 season wonder cause Ferrari came back strong in 06 and nearly won again but Alonso managed again by a stroke of luck. After 06 the fans finally thought that Ferrari were beatable going into 07. That’s what you call dominance.
Oh man, watching The Michael roll past blown-up McLarens, almost every FIA call beside tech regulations seemed to go Todt's way (I swear, Alonso vs Schumacher was the top of the iceberg of Todt vs Briatore.). I think only non-Bulls fans had it worse during Jordan's era. Remove the high tech, single-line tractors, put high-strung engined, smaller, cars back. Trucks should be raced in Dakar.
I think what´s scary here is the FIA unwillingness to change the rules. I don´t care if they don´t do specifically to mess with RedBull, I just don´t want to see the same damn cars every year. We could start by making them more narrow, they basically the width of two regular cars now.
@@jajanka10 for me the biggest “Ferrari international assistance” moment was when they told Massa to say that Alonso impeded him at Monza qualy in 06 so Alonso gets a grid drop. Obviously karma would bite Ferrari in the ass at Japan later that year. 😂
@@MrSilverfish12 the cars been ruined since 2009 and only getting worse and worse. Heavier bigger uglier but real fans will always watch regardless of changes.
@@botortamas Im still gonna watch, because I think engine development seems to be the more interesting thing these days. I just really miss seeing the cars skate a bit and seeing the drivers fight it. These things are on rails now
For me the difference between the max and Lewis era is the fact that during the Mercedes era their cars were rapid but that covered up a lot of their flaws which were now seeing when they don’t have the car to save them while Lewis also had certain off days meanwhile the max era every part of that team is working perfectly week in week out and people need to have the weekend of their lives to keep up with him so you’ve gotta respect everyone at redbull for playing their part in this domination
2 mistakes: 1. regarding the floor regs, nobody really knew who it would effect and some still thought, until testing, it would hit the high rake concept more, as rbr was so heavily reliant on the floor providing a huge amount of downforce for them! toto wolff even had a cheeky grin on his face when asked if he thought it would hurt rbr, during an interview in the winterbreak! There was no general consensus that low rake was gonna be hit, and not until toto realized it would, did he start spreading the ‘they did it to hurt us’ narrative! Insider rumours on the grid were that it was toto who complained and begged pirelli, after their many tire issues in ‘20, to do something -> pirelli asking fia to do something bc the downforce load was too extreme -> fia complying and taking away downforce! Let’s not forget, even back then the red bull was as good as, if not better than, merc when it came to downforce, but their weakpoint was that renault engine (before switching to honda) which allowed merc to keep relying on having a faster pu to make up the difference and keep that gap, hence why rbr only ever did good at monaco (downforce) and mexico(altitude) 2. You forgot the floor ride height adjustments made after mercedes and toto complained and kept whining abt physical danger due to porpoising, which red bull didn’t really suffer from. Raising the height was something people expected would hurt rbr, as they could go much lower than the rest, and seemingly were able to extract a massive amount of downforce that way, but unfortunately for other teams it did not even remotely affect them!
Comparing different era's make this compilation outstanding. F1 team dominance is always very subjective and can be viewed many different ways. In the Schumacher era, team orders and pushing the 'on track rules' gave him a distinct advantage that made his records look even better than what they actually were ........ but ........ that does not detract from his amazing results.
I don't buy that Max isn't the best qualifier. He is always 2 to 3/10 ahead of his teammate. Does he need to be half a second? Sergio Perez was the fourth best qualifier in 2020, in the racing point. He is not as bad a qualifier as everyone is making them out to be.
Idk why people are so upset with Verstappen's and Red Bulls dominance. 2022 was competitive in the first half and so Verstappen's dominance is really just 2nd half of '22, '23, and now 2 races in '24 seems like the reason why people are so fed up is the cumulative effect of the Merc dominance and then the Red Bull dominance which got broken up by 1.5 competitive seasons
You're not listening. No one is upset with redbull, we're concerned and upset with F1 and where its headed. I'm watching my favourite f1 drivers peak years go by unmatched, it's disgusting and I hate it. I loved watching Max in 2020, then he got my heart racing again in 2021. Ever since then it's been so... I want Max pushed in the race, and you know he wants it too. That's what we all want too.
@@wildcatkhaya5675this kinda why the early 10s were really good. multiple world champions going wheel to wheel. Alonso, Lewis, Vettel, Webber, Kimi, Michael, Button had individual battles with eachother while being relatively young.
@@JuicedOnKidsI wouldn’t say that they’re all “relatively young” at that point tho lmao
@@wildcatkhaya5675 Yeah nah. A lot of people are genuinely upset with RBR and I love seeing it
People are upset about his fanboys and the narrative that F1 is giving to Max as a GOAT. So far, Verstappen had: _ Only one competitive teammate in his career (Ricciardo) and lost 2-1. _ One tainted championship (2021) and two easy championships without competition. _ Still not proven to be the best of his generation as neither Norris, Leclerc, Russell, Ocon, etc ... had a championship wining car to fight against him. Actually Leclerc had that car from time to time and had most of time outperformed Verstappen (2019, 2022). People are also upset about RedBull and Max fanboys hypocrisy. When Lewis was winning "it was only the car". Now that Max is winning "it's all about the driver". Verstappen is overrated af.
Max and Schumacher are the most simular, while other drivers love racing, they life racing.
Max was playing iRacing at 4am before he went and won in Jeddah 2024.
The FIA introduced a higher ride height in 2022, pushed by Ferrari and Mercedes, who where convinced that this would slow down RBR, even when Horner said it wouldn’t. The fact that it didn’t hurt RBR, doesn’t mean that the FIA did nothing. And now Adrian Newey took Mercedes’ zero pod concept and made it work. RBR is simply a year ahead of the pack and in the hands of Max it’s 4 to 5 tenths ahead per lap.
Max is just the goat. He doesnt make mistakes. He could win even when mercedes were dominating. He is a machine with only one objective - to win.
quite sure he could've beaten Merc in 2017/2018 in that Ferrari.
Because the Merc wasn't bulletproof, High altitude tracks were Mercs weakness so others could compete. RB currently have zero competition on virtually all circuits, the car is just too good.
pahaha Has never won a title having a dominant car. 2021 was a mess not even Schumacher did, most rotten championship of all time.
@@chrisgoat6435please keep crying 😂
@@quigglyz2021 was a total joke 😂
It feels exactly like Hamilton dominance, same shit
And don't forget the cost cap, because if you got it wrong in 2022 you're mostly condemned to play catch-up because of the limited budget and we can only wait and hope that teams can bridge part of the gap during winter, and if not, with the exception of a surprise like the jump in perofrmances from Mc Laren last year there's little to no suspens.
The only thing that makes ne unhappy is seeing my favourite F1 drivers best years go so unmatched. I loved watching Max so much in 2020 and 2021, I loved watching Lewis push him in the race, you just know that they both worked for it and things havent really been the same since. Everyone praises Max for being a mythical creature these days, but i honestly feel hes shone he's brightest when he had serious opponents and a lot more to push for. I cant imagine how boring must be looking at the data every Friday practice and seeing that your long run pace is miles ahead of everyone. He probably only lives to fine tune the car to perfection and putting it on pole, after that when he goes to bed after quali hes thinking about iracing and thats it.
Yeah but you never mentioned that RBR have only been dominating since mid 2022, so why should they be “pegged back” ?
Mercedes really knocked the wind out of F1 fans, no one wants to see another 7-8 year run by a team. Not only that, it´s often a sign that the rules are too tight and restricts creativity so we practically see the same type of cars every year with predictable results.
@@MrSilverfish12Ironically, the rule book is tight so that no team can find loop holes and take an advantage. The problem is, only one team has Adrian Newey...
@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 not only that. The teams have way too much say in how the rules are interpreted. If the FIA deem something legal, the other teams can protest it to all hell until they get their way. Im tired of the old mates club they have now with each other, it´s really only 3 teams competing seriously for the championship. The other 7 are just there to collect money.
I think it's only Max haters (probably fans of Lewis and Ferrari) are bitter about his dominance because they know Max can surpass Lewis and Schumacher's 7 titles.
@@glouise9 Max dominance will eventually end
i think max’s defeat of hamilton in 2021 is why most of the young drivers seem to universally agree that he is the best driver, whilst for seb in 2010 he was seen to be a “lucky” champion. if max hadn’t challenge hamilton in 2021 and started dominating in 2022-now, i think the “it’s the car” comments would be much louder
Watching this a bit late... thanks for jinxing it 😜
Even if Verstappen is helped by an incredible car and an almost flawless team, there's no argument that from 2022 onward he drives closest to perfection than any other driver in history. In the two last seasons, the only error worth mentioning was his scrap with the wall in Singapore 2022. Even when the conditions deteriorates, when the rain levels the field, he's still the fastest driver and don't make mistakes, an achievement that even great rain drivers like Hamilton or Schumacher can't claim to have reached.
Its interesting that you feel the Schumacher era is most comparable with Verstappen’s and i agree. Im lucky enough to have witnessed live all 4 dominance eras mentioned. I remember the things said at the time for each of them. During the Schumacher era, it was ‘Schumacher is untouchable’. He was an already established great in a now dominant team and had full measure over Barrichello. Like Schumacher, during the Verstappen era it is ‘Verstappen is untouchable’. A driver everyone knew was a mega talent, now has his hands on utterly dominant cars and has the full measure of Perez. Now during Hamiltons era, people would instead say ‘the silver arrows are untouchable’, not because i feel they didnt respect Hamiltons greatness, most pundits, including myself, agree that Lewis is the greatest the spot has ever seen (even if not the most soul crushingly dominant), but i feel people praised mercedes as a whole, because in the early years of the Hamilton era, you also had Nico Rosberg, one of the most underrated drivers of all time, and even though from 2017-2020 it was all Hamilton, that ‘dominant mercedes’ tag stuck and never got replaced by ‘dominant hamilton’ like we see with max and saw with schumacher But when Vettel dominated, it was ‘Adrian Newey is a genius’. For three reasons i feel, one : sebs dominance wasnt preceded by as much hype, max was the rising chosen one, and schumacher and hamilton were already champions, but seb only had that monza 08 win and a strong 09 season under his belt before taking over the sport. Two : while i admire seb as one of my childhood heroes and know he is for sure one of the all time greats of the sport, he is just a bit behind the other 3 drivers mentioned in terms of the goat debate, and in his dominance era, weaknesses were still visible, such as when he wasnt out front, he’d occasionally struggle. Three : like you touched on, the calibre of opposition during sebs era I feel was the highest ANY champion has had to face in the sports history. All time greats in Hamilton and Alonso, other great champions in Button Raikkonen and Rosberg. Title challengers in Webber and Massa. And an all round strong grid bar the odd pay driver at the back. Like you said, many of sebs rivals felt they were the best and i just do not see that on the current grid. This is a weakass soy boy generation of drivers like norris russell tsunoda soon to be bearman, all bending over and accepting defeat to verstappen. Sure the cars cant compete but i bet Alonsos 2012 ferrari was as far off sebs red bull as this years ferrari is to Maxs. But that didnt stop Alonso from dragging that car to the final round showdown that year. Case in point. Seb had it really freaking tough, Lewis had it tough, but the odd year where it was easy. Schumacher mostly had it easy. Max has it really damn freaking easy, betweencar reliability, weak opposition and has the fia kissing his and red bulls arses to make matters that much easier. But credit where its due, max is insanely consistent. And may very well be the greatest of all time time, but im not sold on that yet. For me Hamilton and Schumacher are out front in that debate
But Shumi used some dirty tricka to become champion. I never saw Max doing that.
@@sluischris really? Monza Brazil and Jeddah 2021 dont cross your mind? I suppose max never directly pulled a dirty move to become champ like schumi and senna did but he did throughout a championship winning season
What a Joke, Hamilton had it tough and Schumacher had it easy is the most illogical opinion. Schumacher left a championship winning team to go for Ferrari, secondly Schumacher's time had more reliability issues than the era after that. Looks like you never saw Schumacher race
@@samsony6225 no bro i meant purely in terms of his on track opposition, thats the metric i was gauging, their rivals
@@samsony6225 hakkinen and briefly towards the end raikkonen and alonso, were the only real threats to michael throughout his career. Hill villenueve in the williams were somewhat formidable but it was largely the williams car, and dc and barrichello proved little threat to michael