Mid Season Balancing Patch Notes Y9S1.3 - 6News - Rainbow Six Siege
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Nokk should get her silent step back
No, she should have the ability to bypass gadgets like Kapkan traps, Melusi traps, be undetectable by Alibi clones, and other electronics
@@optionallemon9262 why not both
@@Griffith74 that's a bit too much
@@optionallemon9262and I don't agree with that either, she was fine the way she was before
She doesn't need silent step The increased time is good, but they need to remove that cool down And make her not detected by proxy alarms
Buffing time on Nøkks ability dose literally nothing they need to actually buff her because she has no place
shit was just filler lmao
I still use her no matter what i go crazy
Did you even read the patchnote ? It's a change to wait for a bigger buff
Console players in defend: Work as a team?? Nahhh…where is my ACOG?!
It’s so annoying the amount of people using Doc bro
@@J-Stediford06 Not only doc…Wamai & Melusi as well
Most console players are very selfish I do agree but I swear the main reason everyone wants acog on console is because no one can see with a 1x. The resolution is far worse than a medium tier pc and you are stuck on the worst aspect ratio of 16:9. Whenever I have just played pc then switch to console it feels like I have the vision of a 60 year old
@@walterblack5678 does this mean I'm weird for not running ACOG on Melusi?
Console? Both platforms tbh
They should give Nøkk Tachanka’s LMG, silent step and the ability to interrogate Defenders. 👌
🤣
and she can open reinforced walls with her hands
Nah, just let her crawl out of cams and TV's like The Ring chick. Making stealing cams a great time, and being on Defense a horror game
nerfing gu mines bc people dont check the floor is crazy.
To be fair lesion can put them on doorframes that makes them basically impossible to look without a drone
@@waypoint732 but you see how you know that information. they’re still nerfing due to people’s lack of common sense. its like knowing there’s a kapkan and still not checking your door ways.
Bro in champ lobbies you can’t look at the floor… attacking winrates in champ are so low and lesion is picked so much and he’s so op. Very much needed nerf for pro play and high elo
@@evanhiatt5606 it takes no more than a second to shoot one. you assume im not in high elo lobbies lmao
@@evanhiatt5606ur baked
😭I was thinking they were gonna give nokk her silent step back tbh
They just keep nerfing her i thought the point of her was to be silent and sneaky
they need to
@@speclove1 like the amount of times the defenders still know my exact location especially on cams is something
@@favourkennedy3004 I’m going to use her and see why she’s so strong
Right? I haven't seen her played enough to warrent a nerf
Ubi never fails to disappoint me with these patch notes
just give Nokk silent step or at least the ability to ignore electronic traps rework they tested awhile ago...
that would be a well worth buff
they really should give the electronic trap rework. It would be so cool just to walk past a Fenrir Dreadmine with no issues.
I'm pretty sure Nokk actually got buffed her ability last for 30 seconds now instead of 20 which is pretty good. The recharge time doesn't really matter unless you go all the way to zero
Her gadget is useless now
Yeah I guess but if you were nokk and you saw a camera, would you shoot it or use your ability?
Came to say this^ It’s a 30 second pool of time. If you use 10s, it takes 10s to recharge. If you use all 30, it takes 30s. So this is just a flat buff, no downside.
@@GamerTagCaptCluel3ss her gadget is still terrible without silent step
@@kaboombasket3140 this is not relevant to the conversation
“The recent changes to frag grenades, along with increased operator access, have had a negative impact on Nokk’s presence.” Bro…I don’t think that’s the main problem here… Give her back her silent step, then we can talk.
They will not, they already said it
Just nerf everything why buff less used or underpowered ops when we can nerf everyone into the ground
ubi: lets also nerf the underpowered ops too. lets make everyone terrible and not fun to play
And when they do buff operators, it’s incredibly weak and small like being able to dash through a shield……. I feel like the devs are still waaaaaay too out of touch with the community than they have any right to be
@@mandomero5484 you don't like the changes. Your opinion =! The communial consensus
@@drjamaymay405≠* and also nobody likes the changes, just you buddy.
@@GrandRegentSScratch lesion nerf needed. Great gun, side shorty, impacts, average of 6 gus each round (I'm guessing). Too much power in 1 op.
NO lesion nads and shotty is a great combo. make holes with shotty and hit shields with the nads
Tbh once he got the super shorty the camera was the better gadget. place a cam for guaranteed value instead of pocketing 2 impact for potential use.
@@drjamaymay405not if one of your teammates already have a cam, also there’s a reason he’s loosing impacts and everyone runs impacts.
0:54 You missed Clash out the chart at the bottom.
Nook just needs her silent step back. No reason why it was removed. She also shouldn't trigger proxy alarm, kapkan traps, and any other trap that would reveal her location
Sens gadget is worst than a smoke grenade as you can destroy it. Like there is no point in picking Sens
There is a point I'll be the best player in the world using sens to show you why it's goated
@@qwrxy.yhe is literally a throw pick at the moment lol
@@qwrxy.yLmao I just recognized you bro why are you yapping I’ve capped you in ranked 10 different times and you are always typing in chat while u are at the bottom of the board, I’m IIIBane I know you remember me
I wish sens's gadget had 2 modes (like Capitao's or Grim's) ... One like how it works right now, and one where it would roll to the side instead of straight ahead. It would make for a nice QoL buff and make some cool setups possible.
@@xanderlaskey2753nobody cares bro
Tyvm for the news it's appreciated 😁👍
4:20 that's not a nerf ya goofy goober. It's a 10 second increase to the max amount of time Nokk can stay cloaked. Consequently, this means if you use all 30 seconds, it'll have a 30 second cooldown (still a 1:1 cooldown ratio). It's a 50% duration buff to her gadget while the devs figure out other ways to make her more impactful.
"No ban" is in the top 5 bans. That's a pretty big achievement for Ubi
Not mad about any of this but I’m curious how effective impacts are going to be at making rotates now.
Clash on PC was in the bottom corner. I'm surprised you didn’t check.
I was waiting for days hoping Jäger gets an Acog the guy deserve it back
no he don't lol
@@Lorentz_Driver But Wamai who have better gun better secondary and better gadget deserve it ?
@@saibot1246 MP5K dmg - 30 (33 with extended) firerate - 800 mag size - 30 vs 416-C CARBINE dmg - 38 (42 with extended) firerate - 740 mag size - 25 jager's gun is better. and the AUG A2 is better then the MP5K on wamai anyways. AUG A2 dmg - 42 (no extended) firerate - 720 mag size - 30
@astolfo4346 the M416 has far more recoil. The ACOG would be more of a liability due to how much visual recoil it has
@mysterymeat1216 the 416 has recoil? Since when?
They really didn’t think things through with who gets an acog and the laser sight rework
I mean the only maybe problematic ones are wamai and goyo, everyone else is fine.
@@Gigopz goyo was better before they changed it. he had the pre-nerf 1.5x. and i was called a copper for thinking he was good. NOW ppl calling him a problem when he gets a WORSE, nerfed sight???? god this community makes 0 sense
@@astolfo4346 I never said he was worse before just that he might still be overturned a bit, your take on frost/azami was just wrong in every single way and everyone was right to call you out on it.
Remove Wamais acog and give it to Jager would balance out the graph more
jager's ar is better. that would be a terrible change
@@astolfo4346 that's the point, right now Wamai has a higher pick rate and win rate, since his ability is also Jager 2.0, remove his acog and give it to Jager, Jager moves up in pick rate and Wamais goes down
@@frankf6325Dead by daylight ass balancing change
@@astolfo4346not recently it isn’t. Higher fire rate for mp5 wins versus 416 after being nerfed 3 times
no
0:56 I don't think I've seen clash's pick rate that low before. She is hidden by the timestamp of the video.
As a monty main, this is a RUSH of dopamine. Impacts were so buggy and annoying, but now they probably won't even scrath my boy
Your crutch just got even easier, i'd be hyped!
@@BourbonBandit-calls Monty a crutch clearly has never played him. If he’s so no skill then why don’t you play him?
@@SuitGuy6579 I main hard breachers. You don’t have to take offense to what I said. It was mostly a joke
@@BourbonBandit- I understand and apologize for my harsh tone. I just get heated when people call Monty no skill when you have only a pistol with no sight at the end of the day. I hope you have a great day!
@SuitGuy6579 you can win most 1v1s with Monty by just baiting your shield
things i would do to improve sens make the gun more controllable and then theres 2 things that can be done to his gadget 1 you cant shoot low caliber rounds though it smg, ar, handguns, buckshot but dmr, slugs, big handguns, snipers can go though it and throwables can go though it too 2 you get pinged when you shoot though it like a alibi clone
The gun control is a skill issue and everyone saying they should add a ping to the smoke is dumb cuz u could just throw them at a defender holding a angle and they can do anything but stay still or run forcing a reaction is strong thats how u play sens take control of half the site or just a bit of it make the defenders react kill them for it then your team floods in and you spit on the site in two with a plant down
@@hamtrik1745sens is literally last place in both areas,don't try to say there viable lol
@@badasscrusader im not lol but that’s why im saying if they were to do what this guy says he be like grim
indirect Solis nerf with the impact change too
Nokk is more of a buff since technically you regain the same amount of her ability time every second, but you can just store a lot more of it.
They don’t need to nerf the explosions from impacts with shields wtf
Sens’ smoke wall should pulsate for Attackers. What I mean by that is 3 seconds after the wall is up it pulsates between clear and smoky, allowing the attackers to see through it for like half a second. Pulsates every 4 seconds. Just my thoughts
Very cool idea !
Maybe just Sens can see through it other wise it would be like the whole team is glaz
@@xanderlaskey2753 Yeah, that’d probably make more sens
@@_lonewolf_7917 Good pun
0:51 are we just going to ignore clash who’s literally off the chart at the bottom?
Honestly they should just give sens the gonne6 again. The ability to get through doors and immediately cut off LOS for a plant was great. The frag did nothing for the kit since frags got nerfed not long after. They need something for entry.
They should add a neutralized state to gadgets in a greenish yellow. Thatcher should neutralize a gadget unless its picked up and replaced. Jackal shouldn't be able to scan an operator at all. Footprints should last a little longer. Sens they should add a 10m line indicator of where the gadget will roll in addition to where it will land. Dokkabei should only be able to place a phone call once she has hacked an enemy phone. Both teams should still have full access to hacked cams unless Dokkabei is on the cam.
I just can’t believe they’re still letting defense run ACOGs 🤦🏻♂️
This is actually like....a really good mid season patch. I have a few complaints, obviously nokk just needs her silent step back. But lesion was heavily dominating before this, yet he seems to be more balanced here, I think the 2 birds one stone approach I've been saying for 6 months is the allow BRAVA to hack his gadgets again (if you didn't know they nerfed her from doing that. The highest picked, largest pool of gadgets on defense should have been interractable with one of the weaker attackers). Doc acog should have been Removed, we don't need 6 months of that to know its a problem, you have one of the highest picked Defenders with no utility having a huge spike in pick rate after getting it, let's not lie to ourselves ubi, doc is an acog simulator, and ash....come on, I guess we need to incentive people to buy her 4 elites. The impact changes were each good on their own but both at the same time seems like an over step, the damage nerf would have hurt solis mostly with plant denial but the radius reduction is going to hurt mostly the interaction with ACE in higher play. The shield nerf is a no brianer though, 2 hits was too much.
Silent step is balanced on cav because the attackers can drone her out. She can get a buff but not silent step. If brava can hack a gu mine, IQ can detect and thatcher can disable. If he needs more nerfs bring back the electronic aspect without the invisibility, but I don't think it will be necessary. Yeah Doc/Ash acog is very popular, but it's fine. It's the first season in 3.5 years since, we should wait a bit longer before making another optic change. If we remove Doc acog all the users will just go rook/melusi acog instead. Let the fad die out instead of forcing it. The impact changes seem good, but tricking is probably going to be impossible on most wall/hatches. Hopefully it's not just Selma's that can avoid the impacts and hard breach charges are safe to.
Ain’t no way they dropped the ball this bad, Ubi is killing the game and it’s pretty sad.
Wtf did they change that has you this butt hurt?
@@badasscrusader how am I butthurt? you definitely haven’t read the comment section kid😆
@@GrandRegentSScratch so the entire patch has you butthurt got it,must suck not knowing how this game is balanced
@@badasscrusader horrible bait comment, try again.
Sens is dope, they just need a shotgun (maybe something they haven’t recycled yet like Ying’s sixer)
Dude nook and Ying share the same shotgun
@@kastoondaria1413* nokk and lesion share the same shotgun, ying uses the unsilenced version
@geni4261 ahhhh fair enough fair enough, didn't think about the silencer not being on hers
Why would you want a statistically identical gun but without a suppressor, give her a supernova or a spas 12
Either Ash acog needs to go or have jager and bandit have them. Ash has the biggest buff with the acog plus the no grip literally 8 seconds she is in the obj. She does not need acog
if they want to make sens good theyll make his gun better than jackal and osas PDW. 42 damage with that recoil is acceptable
For everyone saying that Nokk should get silent step back, ubi already said they would never do it. It was just too op in attack to gap and go through advanced setup without defenders having a clue Where's jager acog tho?
As someone who never fully committed to siege i wanted to ask you guys what you think is the current status of the game, i always liked the game, but find it kinda difficult
I wish they'd reduce the recoil on noks gun it's fine on console but PC has been brutal for me esepcialy when you try run suppresor
dont run a suppressor then? she isnt a stealth op anymore since they removed that from her gadget. plus its better to run extended on it anyways
@@astolfo4346 brilliant ill just run extended to reduce my recoil problem solved, I don't run suppressor but the option would be nice if the recoil wanst so rediculous for such a middling weapon, it doenst Warrent the recoil it has
Extended barrel and suppressor both add vertical recoil to the gun, not sure if it is by the same amount though
PC literally has easier recoil
@@dave3171 that was what I was getting at
So they removed impact tricking????
When are they going to fix the sensitivity bug 💀
I think azami should get the blackbeard treatment
When does it release?
Sens buff: make it so no device or gadget can see through their smoke. A counter to warden, maestro and bp cameras
Have been thinking similarly. Can defender cams see through alibi prismas? If no then that can apply to sens as well
@@YOSI-IKA it doesnt even needs to make sense, just buff the poor thing
I blame myself for using impacts to secure kills as clash
Why is it that all my operator skins went back to default and play cards back to grey its annoying. Anyone else have that problem? Looks like it happens at least once a year.
Oryx going thru deployable shield is bad, I mean he might aswell go through reinforcement walls too 😅
Make sens a viable op: her gadget disrupts/ disables sight based gadgets+ disables nitros/impacts cameras have no problem seeing through her veil and impacts/nitros instantly destroy it also buff the rof9
that would be a neet change. making them a weird type of emp could be cool
if the oryx buff made him destroy goyo canister too a lot of oryx player gonna injure themself
awful work by the balancing team 🗣️🔥🔥🔥💯💯
I’m so baffled by how little Ubisoft is doing for Sens, an attacker I consider to be worse than Blackbeard right now. The gun, the speed, the secondary gadgets, do not matter. I think Ubi thinks everyone is just stupid and isn’t putting in time to make Sens work, but the problem is that Sens straight up does not work. The gadget bounces off too many things and isn’t very reliable. Regular smoke nades are easier to throw and get value. At this point Sens needs a gadget rework.
The gadget of Nokk is one of the most stupid useless gadgets of the game…she should be full invisible to the vigilance devices, the actual image distortion system is just a perfect way to identify to Nokk through cameras because nothing else causes that distortion 🤷🏻
When is it releasing
4:36 ??? Ah yes extend the ability that doesn’t even do its job in making you undetectable on camera like just removed the footsteps on cameras at least if your not going to give silent step back or rework the ability (it’s like training to throw a ball but your playing soccer yeah ok you can throw a ball but how does that help you?)
If they reduced the recoil on sens assault rifle he would be used more gun is brutal
Can they fix the bug where I come in first but don’t get mvp
Just take off that Wamai ACOG already. His load out was pretty balanced before they put that scope on.
Nah but for real though. They need to buff NOKK. Honestly they can give her silent step but increase cooldown another 5 seconds. OR give her the ability to walk through beepers/electric traps. I used to love her but now she brings almost nothing to the team like not even for lurking. Use her on bank sometimes. Literally if they made it so she can walk through beepers I guarantee she would get used more. Silent step and her pick rate would go to the very top I bet which might be too OP
Impact nerd is interesting
Always remember that the pick rate differences between PC and Console are heavily to do with cheaters. Wamai is the favorite of xim kids since he has ACOG. Same with bans. Kapkan is banned way more on console because cheaters are too lazy to look at their feet.
Does Ubi has a fetish for nerfing grenades? Like c’mon, no one have problems with them
3:29 wtf ? she's getting emps, not impact grenades
That’s what they’re called in competitive.
While seeing pefrectly well that Iana is a solo operator, they're replacing her only useful secondary gadget with this eco-friendly excuse of a grenade. Smh
Ngl defender balance on PC looks golden.
Clash is literally off the chart at the bottom of the screen, devs keep refusing to buff her non ability gunplay.
Ubisoft try not to be bricks challenge “impossible”
Mid season? You're telling me!
I love how ash has been a far top pick for so many years its mad funny, love it or hate it ash will always top frag
Wamai and Buck on console are a direct result of them not doing any kind of work with Mousetrap
The kapkan ban is an indirect result of this same issue, since everyone just wants to charge in with their XIM
Impact 3 to 2 meters not 2 to 3
Interesting to see mute with a negative win%…
im not doing shit utility wise with Iana no stuns how lame can you guys get
I wouldn't say the Nokk one is only a nerf
It isn't, but it won't make her any better
ATTENTION ALL CONSOLE PLAYERS!! LETS ALL BAN WAM AND MELSUI!!
no lmao. those are terrible bans
You ban melsui/wamai they will just go doc/rook,plus then you have to deal with fenrir which is worse
attackers ban capitao and brava!!
Bad changes tbh. Really unhappy about the change to Iana and impacts.
They need to do something with the f&ucked up rank system. I'm a resident copper loser for a year now. I don't wanna deal with diamonds alpha men.
I’ve lost all my fucking ops wtf
Remove ban from the game!!!!!
Sense has too many counters in play in a single round. You're better of with smoke 'nades
give nokk silent step back
give thorn acog
their priority is nerfing lesion and not Fenrir?? he has been consistently the most banned op by a great margin, doesnt that tell the ubi devs something?
he's getting nerfed next season
@@TennessineGD if ur talking about the nerf that u can shoot a deactivated gadget that wont even be that big of a nerf, the problem is when it is on and you have someone playing off the gadget
@@Evp3 they're also removing a mine and a code. i don't see what else they could possibly do without a complete rework. maybe add a hard counter?
finka's boosts already increase the visibility range of the fear effect but maybe they could make it remove the effect altogether. it's an adrenaline boost, you could reasonably say it would make a fear gas ineffective
@@TennessineGD finkas boost doesnt help counter fenrir, it is a soft counter and a bad one at that, buffing finka to counter fenrir completely wouldnt be enough, you can have only one op fully counter him. Id say a good step would be increasing the time to be fully blind and increase the distance slightly
Buffing shields by making it impossible to kill them and nerfs lesion to the ground
Give lesion impacts back
Is it really worth its 67GB for this update on my hard driver? Hell naaaw💀💀💀
any time i take any type of small break it isnt long before i start hearing changes ...more changes ........
Medicore update pretty normal
So solis just got killed basically
Wait, did they just fucking buff shields?
I think ace and thermite need to swap weapons. Ace is the clear winner in all categories.
Buff tachanka
I wonder how they will nerf ash again she’s already at her weakest she looks strong because they made everyone else so weak
Their nerfing Nokk again? “STOP STOP, SHES ALREADY DEAD”
Why remove stun grenades for Iana its ridiculous who asked for this ?
Lesion has no reason to lose impacts based on their reasoning and who was even complaining about his impacts 💀 Ability nerf is whatever but wasn’t that difficult to deal w so now attackers are just gonna brain dead rush even more
yep. plus with the fenrir and solis nerfs incoming, and azami being useless, shits just gonna happen literally every round. i swear, ubi is trying to keep this bs tdm meta alive aslong as possible
@@astolfo4346 not to even mention that fenrir and/or kapkan get banned practically every game so it's like they're wanting people to spam the acog ops to keep the attackers outside
stop fucking removing explosive secondary gadgets from operators
No
@@BourbonBandit- yes
They ruined the Goo towers a second time
I’m just done. Ubisoft just don’t know how to balance games 😪.