AliExpress Wouldn't Lie... Right? - Crelander Dual Screen Laptop
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - Crelander wouldn't lie
0:38 - Build Redux!
0:54 - LTT Intro
1:02 - Linus has high expectations
3:20 - Screens (first reaction)
4:18 - Trackpad, keyboard
5:56 - Stated vs. real specs
8:01 - Cinebench
9:30 - Screens (labs report)
11:28 - Webcam
12:08 - Teardown
14:44 - Speakers
15:14 - Squarespace!
16:08 - Outro
Honestly, they were SO CLOSE. Better BIOS (CPU boost and proper RAM usage), 20 bucks more for the panel and a less bizarre keyboard layout, and this would be a hidden gem.
The panel isn't even a deal braker for me. For a screen that size the resolution is fine. And the cpu and ram can be fixed with a firmware update. So close to being a hidden gam as you say
@paras shut up man
@RobGMun the problem with the display is the horrendous colors. With a coverage like that it is probably even strongly noticeable to the average person.
you can remap the keyboard easily.
Not even a different kb layout, just swap a couple of key positions. But there's no way they could just add two cores to an i7-10750H, so you can't just "fix" it entirely.
I can’t believe Linus has never heard of the clearly superior right-shift-backspace key placement.
I like apples
@paras you didn't cook the rice first did you. if not try again with cooked rice.
Well shoot, didn't expect to see you here Patrick lmao
Love your ring designs man 😌
Linus hasn’t learned of a lot of things.
07:21 having worked in China, I can tell you why they partition boot and user files separately. It comes from the old school mindset where you'd had to re-install windows once in a while to keep it snappy. Keeping the user files away removes the hassle of having to use an external drive for backup. (We're talking Win Me/ XP era).
Makes sense
old school mindset? my friend I still do that, how is that old school haha
Chinese are hopelessly stubborn.
Is this reliable today?
We do this in india too
I really loved how the HDMI icon flipped to reflect the actual orientation of it on the machine.
The way Alex comes into frame with something to say and immediately looks to camera, even when talking to Linus, always makes me laugh. It's endearing for some reason haha
It’s like an office reaction.
@@robertt9342 What do you mean? He is in an office, that's his workplace.
@@bsame . It’s a tv show….
@@robertt9342 he is Jim. wonder who he pranks? who is the Dwight of LTT?....now i need an episode where they compare everyone in LTT to an Office character.
Alex is basically Linus’ little minion lol
The editors with their little funny details, I love it. The flipped HDMI port icon😅
@Daniel Leone is this supposed to be funny…
OMG i came down to the coments just to mention this! i loved the animation
@toetia Please help my computer isn't working I deleted windows but now it has an ugly screen with some monster. Help?
Beat me to the comment lol
Yeah
02:10 Do you seriously not know that socket is an OCuLink port? Are you kidding me? Amazing!
He doesn't know anything; he only makes funny faces, lol.
Grande Marco!
Dignene!!!
Ciao Marcoo!
marco mio padre
I have literally never used the right shift key.
Honestly it's very worth a follow-up video with Anthony tinkering further with the Bios and try to find a boost solution. There has to be a way to unlock that CPU boost!
I agree, and upgrading the ram and remapping the keyboard. I am curious to see how much more expensive it would be and time consuming to get things working exactly as needed.
And upgrading the ram +nvme
Unfortunately, those upgrades won't do anything about the extremely crap display. I mean, you *could* upgrade that too, but that is so much more difficult.
@@The_Keeper I mean possibly but it could also be very simple. I had an old Samsung laptop 10 years ago that had such an easy screen replacement. I barely knew what I was doing and it took maybe 30 mins. If you can get one that's the right size and connectors for less than $100 then it could be a simple fix for a big boost.
I'm disappointed they didn't do this here lol
That flipping HDMI animation there was a nice touch which made me chuckle in delight. Whoever edited this, you are on top of your game.
There’s credits at the end of the video if you want to know who the editor is. :)
Mark Rathgeber he edited this 👌
@@gamamew Mark*
It would be a fun video idea to "fix" this laptop. Throw in a more relaible SSD, swap the ram out, fix the bios and let the cpu boost to higher clock speeds. Maybe even fix the weird keyboard layout by remapping the keys in software. It might be a very good deal in terms of performance even after accounting for the price of the fixes.
Can't really remap the power button in this case since it is where backspace is normally on a keyboard. As for "fixing" the BIOS/UEFI that would take a software engineer to do correctly honestly and they would have to have PROPER knowledge of BIOS/UEFI and they work in the modern era to be able to "properl;y" fix the dang thing.
reprogramming BIOS is unrealistic but the rest would be cool
hell why not even add a PCIe based egpu for it! i mean it does apparently advertise to support it
Agreed.
Shouldn't flashing the BIOS actually fix the problem? Maybe I'm just dumb, but I had to upgrade my PC BIOS so it could support TPM 2.0 to install Windows 11, so I believe simple updating should go beyond that
Personally I have never been able to build muscle memory to use Right-Shift, but that power button is unforgivable. When I still had my MacBook (2015) I always hit the power button when aiming for backspace.
Exactly I always use Left Shift only.
Yeaaaa that's what I was thinking. Who uses right shift lol left shift is more intuitive
Yeah I'd much rather have the delete button there
I've never used right shift in my life
I love the upside down HDMI port on the specs portion instead of the usual right side up graphic. Props for the fun little things
nice eye! So glad you noticed -- what a great detail
Yeah lmao you can see it flip
but they managed to screw up the USB 3.0 icons lol
@@EsotericWizard Linus brought it up thoufg
Big question is:did they [A] flip the HDMI port by accident & incompetence? Or [B], by design, on PURPOSE, and if so: what DA FUCK was it? I'm inclined to think [A]
14:59 Linus going in sync with the crab bounce for a quick second made my day
That connector is called the OCulink x8. It give you external PCIe support. Mostly found in the server hardware world. Super cool to see. Wish framework did some thing similar.
The power button on the backspace location is actually a total deal breaker
That and the deleted right shift.
@@alexatkin Wait, people actually use rshift ?
Sure, pay 3 times more for those buttons you can't live with. A genius like you absolutely needs those button to work at nasa. 🫠
The power button isn’t actually where the backspace should be though, it’s on the line above the numbers and the backspace is correctly on the line with the numbers, he’ll my £1200 cell laptop has the same setup, just with a bigger backspace button, but the power button is in the exact place as on this. Never once hit power instead of backspace.
This video makes me think: how much would it cost to buy a cheap AliExpress laptop and upgrade it (memory, storage, etc..) and end up with something better than buying a real laptop. I hope to see a video like this soon
Since its stolen project you could probably buy spare display and keyboard and try to craft it up.
The problem might be to get a proper bios.
@@sebastianjost fax If the manufacturer can’t even , how shall we ?
"real" I mean those aren't usually the best quality laptops, but they definitely not imaginary either
You still pay tons of import taxes when buying from AliExpress... years ago it might have been cheaper, now not really. EU citizen experience...
I'm interested in seeing the BIOS options on this laptop. A lot of Chinese laptops from little-known brands have very customizable and unlocked BIOS settings, so there might be a way to manually increase the RAM speeds, adjust the CPU TDP and clocks, and more.
And u forgot to mention they frel cheap n looks like crap 🙄 id only pay $10usd fuckin bucks for that shitty laptop lol 🤣
I agree with you, the bios is something to look at here
considering the heatsink, they probably expect one hell of an overclock on that cpu
@@patrickkeller2193 lmao
@@patrickkeller2193 Well, H is not unlocked, so no overclock, just boost.
Backspace location would dive me nuts, but the shift key wouldn't be a dealbreaker. I use the left shift for everything(still type around 140-150 wpm last I checked). I never even realized I had that habit until you brought up the right shift key in this video!
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Yes I would, I require the aliexpress listing
forget to post this earlier?
yes, to steal the components but no
its oky man for u , if you buy 700$ is nothing for that pc at the least not 1,000,000 $ computer and after is broken hahaha
I would just to upgrade the ram and maybe the SSD. but I think that would be about it. seems like everything else is fine. despite the few lies sprinkled in here and there about the laptop.
After working computer tech in a college town for over a decade, one full of Asian students in particular, I can confirm that the vast majority of computers they brought from home had three or more partitions even on SSDs. The computers that came in sourced from the US did not often have this layout making me sure that it's a regional standard thing.
This way we can reinstall windows and not lose all our data
I'm european and have usually 3 partitions on my computers.... not a big deal to setup if you dont want to loose data.
@@Didier88600 i've never thought of that... I should do that next time i te install windows lol
Yeah, one of my college m8s also bought a laptop recently, and it has like 4 partitions. I see epic odd gamers reasoning behind 2 partitions, but y more?
@@epicoddgamer2900 or just have dedicated 128-250gb windows drive lol
That rear PCIe connector looks a lot like OCuLink. It's a thing that was supposed to be a Thunderbolt competitor but ended up mostly being used internally in servers for NVMe connections. Hope they didn't mess with the pinout or something lol, would be interesting to see if it works. Also I love that they straight up put the PCIe logo on the back lol.
disappointed they didnt test that
@@theinktician they didn't even know it existed till filming, so hard to test
@@jaykoerner They probably should have known; on the aliexpress site it says that the machine supports external graphic cards and makes no mention of the USB-C port being Thunderbolt (because presumably, it isn't). 'External Graphics Card Interface * 1' is also in the ports list(this is in the section where it lies about the capabilities of the 10750H and the RAM though, so maybe that was just dismissed as more lies). What's hilarious is they appear to have photoshopped right-shift and backspace keys (in their proper positions) onto the image where it details the WIFI capabilities of the machine (but it looks like the keys are power and delete in the other photos where they are visible).
@@danieljones9937 that express card slot is only like 1x, any gpu would not be good on that. maybe like an add on card such as a m.2 slot card but other than that is pretty useless for gpu's
@@slavb0i646 this isn't an expresscard slot It looks like OCuLink, which has 4 lanes
The Heoraidy brand for the SSD isn't that strange actually. I've lived in China for a while and I've seen that brand quite often for memory related devices. I even bought one for an awefully slow PC that was controlling a measurement system and it worked fine.
lol
its Heoriady
Gotta be honest. I can't tell you the last time I used the right shift key. That being said this keyboard design is strange.
I have never ever used the right shift key. Even going back to when I was in pre-school I've never touched it
After you pointed it out. I litterally never use it either. Fuck it time to make it a macro button
Guess you never heard of touch typing
@paras Go to hell, Bot! That's all you need.
I use it when both pressing it and right ctrl to quicly highlight a word with my left hand. also use it to change writing from LTR to RTL.
If it helps, I never use the right shift key so that keyboard wouldn't be incredibly terrible to use imo
yeah exactly, I'm like "people use right shift??" I'd be happy to split it in half and get back two of the keys I lost from that trackpad
I refuse to believe anyone uses the right shift key.
@@FrankFurther it must be a canadian thing because we were never taught to use the right shift key in keyboard class. But then again i taught myself playing runescape as a kid in the early 2000's.
@@ColtenMHickerson keyboard class???? is that something taught in schools where you live? in my country computer related stuff isn't taught in school and almost everyone types with just 2 fingers
I blame Mavis Beacon teaches typing. I have never ever used the right shift key for anything. Yes I can hold down the left shift key with my pinky and still hit any left hand character, including z quickly.
Love you even flipped hdmi icon on your demostrations of what it has :D +respect
I love the details the editor put by placing the hdmi port upside down in the spec sheet
Partitioning still makes sense if you format your OS drive often and still wish to keep backup storage. Everything else.. But hopefully like retro handhelds (which have evolved heaps in the last 2+ years), they will listen to customers and reviews and with next iterations they can get much closer to a fantastic affordable alternative.
@@zaandam0172 As I'm aware it's not automatic. You can partition when you install the OS. Back in the day you did in through fdisk commands through DOS. Don't think you were alive yet..
i partition my drives for organization
I cannot imagine anyone willingly partitioning their primary SSD with Windows nowadays. (Except for using different FFS for different partitions, but that is a rare case) With all these updates and applications that don't allow you to choose drive to install to, it will be waste of space and space management overhead. You will end up bouncing big files and applications between partitions. Or backing all up before using 3rd party tools to repartition disk. Why will anyone go into these complications?
@@sergeymaximenko3049 Yep. Why not buy another SSD/Nvme drive for backup? Of course everyone on earth has easy access to it and the means to purchase it. What if they can only afford one large SSD? Will they re-install a whole Steam library of games when the OS fails? Will they buy a NAS for storying a library of media? You have enough sata ports to get more than 4 drives? Those are just 3 scenarios. Makes no sense to "you" I can see. Ohhh wait.. They can just backup everything on the cloud right? because everyone has 1 Gigabit fibre. My bad.
@@Natewu188 That's literally what folders are for.
No.. the reason to partition your harddrive, if you only have 1, is to have on partition for data/steam/games/etc and another partition for OS, so you can format the OS partition, every time you want to reinstall your OS. This way you dont have to reinstall all your steam games, or move your data, to external storage for a re-install.
I just have a drive that's only my OS LUL
Anyone who would actually want to do that though would probably just do it themselves. Your average person just wants an unpartitioned drive.
Yeah, that's a very common thing with Chinese people.
@@Nabee_H I used to do tech support in my dorm, and I learned about partitioning the hard drive thing, it seems like people act very recklessly on their drive, removing important stuff that keep their PC, not sure how they do it, but somehow there's always issue on the C drive, so I make a partition and told them, "no matter what you do, use the D drive, don't use the C drive for your college stuff and work", I never heard any problem on their PC wont boot after they do clean up for next semester. it's kinda like dumb proofing the PC IMO
The problem is that's a Linux thing that never really HAS worked on Windows. Yes, you can do that with Linux easily. Hell you can do that with pretty much any UNIX type system. Windows defaults to installing everything to C: and it gets very pissy if you don't get with the program files, capiche?
Regarding that PCIe slot on the back: It looks very similar to what's used in servers to put PCIe devices into a separate, external chassis. I.e. look at a "Bressner PCIE x8 Gen3 Dual-Port" add-in card. It seems to be using similar sockets. From what I've found, these connectors are actually standardized by PCI-SIG! You can also find some cables by looking up "iPass PCIe x8 cable" or "external PCIe x8 cable".
thats the oculink port
The Zen Duo has Thunderbolt 3. The Duo has two similar heat pipes. One also covers the GTX chip.
The reason for multi-partition is the force of habit from old time Windows which people got used to using C:/ drive for system installation. D:/ drive for personal data such as documents, and , sometimes, E:/ drive for either games, entertainment, or other softwares. This is probably the result of sudden shift of OS from Unix to Windows. But I’m too young to know that, and this was the explanation given to me from older tech people in China
Kinda I still do it from those days but that's because as a technician I've had to deal with so many unbootable windows installs and repair takes a longer if you have to backup their data first. Partition the drive redirect my document folders to second partition and then if you need to wipe you can do so with no data loss and no backups first. It's not so bad now windows has gotten better and with the PE environment now but it still stands I've still had a corrupted 10 install that saved the client time by a wipe and reload than spending time trying to figure out a fix
I like to backup different partitions at different times to different external backup drives. Therefore I use D: for Windows, D: for small important files like docs and photos, E: for big projects, F: for music and G: for less important stuff like downloads. This is also great for making everything neat and organized. Some of theses drives are external and apart from the smaller C: all others are 1TB or bigger.
I mean C: for Windows
No, you're pretty much right. Especially back in the day when hard disks had small capacity. But the practice is still done today in more professional area. In case you have to "reformat and reinstall the OS + apps" you don't have to worry so much about losing your Documents / music / videos / etc.
If you do clones, a smaller partition can be useful since a smaller drive costs less for a company to salvage filrs
It's probably worth noting that as with a lot of these types of computers, the components likely vary somewhat. Especially things that are easy to swap; the RAM, the SSD, even the LCD panel, are probably whatever stock is reasonably close and that they want to move. Even with the slight mismatch on specs, to be honest, it's a super cool computer for under $800.
You guys have no idea how efficient china has become. They've been pushed to the limit on cost Saving while maintaining ok quality. No one can beat China in production prowess
Except Taiwan apparently.
Yeah but a bad screen is a deal-breaker for some.
Nice review - i was inspired to buy one😊 - i remapped the keys with powertoys… delete is now right shift and shift backspace is now delete… works like a gem 😂
Is it possible to remap the power button?
I'd totally buy one of these and deck it out(new RAM, a couple of decent NVMe drives in RAID...) if I knew the Oculink port worked. I have a Macbook Pro from 2017 now (almost permanently in bootcamp) with a Razer PCIe enclosure and it's starting to show its age.
Yeah, kinda lame they didn't do anything with that. It's one of the more interesting features on the machine.
So... -Upgrade ram -Add second (NVME) storage drive -Remap keyboard ... There simply has to be a way to extract more performance out of that CPU. With those changes, you've got a pretty good stand in for the duo.
The ram isn't even running at the rated speed of 2666, let alone the advertised speed. I don't even think the bios supports xmp
@@piersonm5574 The BIOS really does appear to be the main thing standing in the way of this being a really salvageable product for people who thought the Duo was a cool idea but weren't willing to pay the exorbitant MSRP for a cool idea. 2666 isn't terrible; I'm typing this on a 2019 Razer Blade with 2666 DDR4.
@John May yeah 2666 is great, my laptop is still rocking ddr3 lol. What I'm saying is I don't think upgrading ram will help because it will always run at 2400mhz
@@johnmay9598 the thing is that yout laptop must have a dedicated GPU. Since this run on integrated graphics it's more dependent of ram speeds. In a laptop with integrated graphics DDR5 makes a noticeable improvement to the igpu
@@7evive We're talking about a ~$750 price point, and a non-gaming laptop. You're... not getting DDR5.
Methinks the editors got that raise, it's just amazing the work they've been doing on here lately! I might just want to try this one out--it looks like fun!
I love that the editors add as much personality to the video as the presenters do. It's such a cohesive operation.
Would love to see ltt labs talk about Linux support, especially for these more obscure devices
Really would have liked to see them upgrade the RAM and see performance after because this is an enticing prospect
These AliExpress laptop reviews have been great! Especially with their presentation. Keep em coming, maybe make a playlist if you make enough of them 👀
They still have that "power button on or near where backspace or delete should be" layout on the 2021 model of HP's Omen laptops! Huge dealbreaker IMHO.
Had a power button on the close right edge of my old msi laptop. Very fun to try to rotate my laptop so someone else could see it and having it shut down.
I got one before Xmas, Loaded Ubuntu with no major issues. Only issue is bottom screen acts as if it is a full screen with touch, But still very happy with it for the price and not having driver issue.
Sadly, ~63% sRGB coverage is still pretty much the norm in 2023 for IPS displays in budget laptops, even for major brands. Even not-so-budget models are affected. For instance, I have yet to use a ThinkPad T-series laptop that does any better (I'm sure better screens can be optioned, but who actually ordered them that way?). Even the P50 I had briefly a couple years ago was just as bad. You can usually tell if a laptop comes with one of these because it will be labeled something like "43% NTSC" on the spec sheet and/or have a max brightness of 250 nits instead of something better.
7:35--no, Linus. They know what they are doing. They partition the drives to make it SEEM like it has an extra hard drive in it or a secondary drive to the less technically inclined. I fell victim to this too when I was 14ish, wanting to get my Windows XP computer fixed at a sketchy repair shop. They partitioned my drive and claimed they added another hard-drive, but they didn't add anything.
they dont know what they are doing of they are doing that lol
@@Lightingkid2010 no, because they charged me extra for a hard drive they didn't even put in
@@de_stroyed you didn't see the size was same?
@@Terahydron I was a kid that didn't know much about these things as I know now and I forgot how the storage amount I had.
they use a partitioned disk to pay Microsoft less for installing Windows
One good reason to partition a boot drive (especially on a laptop) is to keep your OS separate from your files in case you want to format or if windows update screw your files. Always did that even on ssd so it's way easier to clean install and keep the important stuff.
I didn't know you could clean install without having to erase your entire hard drive That's really cool however I still would do this myself because having a separate drive for all your data is easier to navigate in the file structure.
@@bland9876 sure 2+ drives is always the best but I was talking about laptop in general. They most of the time come with only 1 drive so you make the best of what you have. 1TB ssd for an OS boot partition is excessive imo. That's why I normally cut it to have the strict minimum on the boot drive.
Same here....I never cared about the speed or use of the HDD. I always did and do 2 partitions ..one for the OS and the second for all my files so when everything inevitably craps out in Windows I can format in 5 minutes without worrying about losing files or backups. Way easier. Problem is even though I do it for most of my clients and I explain to them why and how to do it a lot of them just save everything in Documents or Desktop and cry when they lose everything when something goes wrong.
@@Catani84 . Just have the desktop and documents folder associate to the other partition.
Here in Taiwan I see many people partitioning their drive for this exact reason. One of the possible reasons I could think of is when someone runs into a problem with Windows and they ask on the forums, many of the replies are simply "just reinstall Windows". So they just do a reinstall everytime as a early fix rather than as a last resort, and partitioning it makes it so easy to do.
I used to make a partition in the middle of the hard drive just for the swap file. That ensured it would not get fragmented and all of it was never more than halfway across the drive for quicker access.
it wouldn't make a difference to fragmentation where it is on the drive, its a partition, it will be treated the same wherever it is. But the seek time to access it was definitely a thing.
If the keyboard layout was the only flaw, you could band aid fix one of the 2 issues by using autohotkey to rebind the delete key to shift, although you'd have to map delete to something of your choosing (maybe shift+del)
I haven't used the right shift key in my entire life- so that would be ok with me- but the power button in the backspace place...
@@olik136 Try it, it's *AWESOME* :D
@@olik136 I thought that too and then realized a day later that I actually do use it.
It's really funny how they didn't have to lie at all, even at its actual specs it seems to be really good value, especially if they had properly coded the BIOS. You can tell the people involved in this have an ingrained scammer mentality of trying to make the most out of whatever they have no matter how much they lie about it, even when it's not really necessary. Old habits die hard.
That's Aliexpress for you. Chinese companies that have no business making laptops score a couple pallets of pre-builts from one of the 1,000 random OEM's building cheap laptops, then slap their logo on the bios, juice up the spec sheet to sell the lot quickly, and disappear overnight.
Linus roasting the best webcam in a laptop LOL 12:00
U should do this more. Its so fun. Your reactions are so hilarious.
The external graphics card dock from crelander makes this thing bad ass you connect it to the pci express port on back of the laptop and add your graphics card to the dock and It uses the laptop screen which is pretty cool
Thanks for the update and information
15:13 squarespace 👹👹👹👹👹
For me the reason for partitioning is to use same image for all choices of ssd - from 128 GB up to 1 TB
I really like these Aliexpress product videos, you should do more!
Me encanta que se hayan dado el trabajo de incluir pista de audio en español ❤!!!!
I almost never use the right shift key. I was a stubborn kid who refused to learn the right shift so I left shift everything. So that keyboard makes perfect sense to me (at least the sift key part).
I love how Linus time stamps his own intro. That’s quality you won’t see elsewhere, you have my respect.
Linus won't lie to us about the sponsor so he got someone else to do it for him 💀💀
I love how you flipped the HDMI port when you listed the ports the laptop had
I got used to use the partittion in a case where I would reinstall windows. I like a fresh install every 2 - 3 years. Got a partittioned drive with windows install in one half and the rest of the stuff in the other half, meaning when I get a fresh install i dont need to format the whole drive just the partition with windows, and everything on the other partition stays 👍
I love when you check out these shady computers! I'd love to see you take one of these (this one maybe) and upgrade the components and see if you can improve it!
11:50 I like when Linus extends his hand towards the webcamera, the colours in the live picture turn to near greyscale to a second. Now that is crappy.
1:30 funny flipped hdmi port
The reason for extra partition in that if you need to reinstall windows you can keep the other partition and all the data on it
Partitioning drives even on SSD make sense from a backup point of view, you can backup the whole drive. System/apps/data that's the ways
For the price, specs wise, it is really decent despite the lies. But for me, the keyboard is a "no-go". Beside the weird layout that I'm not a fan at all, since at work I manipulate data with a lot of numbers, the absence of a numpad is just impossible
Love how in the intro of the I/O they upside downed the HDMI port
That PCIe connector reminds me of the Alienware proprietary external GPU setup, but I wonder if it might be Oculink since that's an actual standard and also looks similar...
I would really like to see you upgrading this laptop to what it should be if they wouldn’t lie and see if it is still worth the price
1:30 that hdmi flip really got me 🤣 good one
Just had a stroke 3 days ago you guys and these videos are keeping my spirits up.great work guys
Sorry to hear that , hope you had recovery plan on the way
Partitioning the boot drive allows you to reinstall the OS without formatting all the data, only the OS partition data. Pretty common.
Thank you for saying this. It makes me rage that they don't realize this.
I was surprised, too, that Linus's team hadn't told him about it. Apart from the fact that Linus himself has been a computer enthusiast for a very long time...
Re-installing the OS already preserves the data if you don't reformat, and the recovery options also allow you to keep data...
Thank you ! I am appalled I had to scroll so far to find this.
@ not for privateers or when you deal with 3-10 year old laptop. Or even with data recovery, makes so much easier if know you only have to copy D partition and got all important data.
Another old school reflex of partitioning your drive is that viruses or something else infected or corrupted your filesystem so often, that you have to put your OS and files in separate partitions so you are ready to wipe out and reinstall an OS on the system partition at any time and make sure the issues are gone. Also installing a fresh OS on a partition with existing data and system did not seem like a popular option.
Exactly this, not just viruses and malware but an unbootable os the quicker fix can be wipe and reload esp for a paying client. I do this on my personal pc still to this day and redirect the my document folders to the other drive letter. I was always taught keep user data and os separate
It still blows my mind about Linus needing the right shift key. I don't think I've ever used that key
Common - it's like *extra* *bold* *capital* *meaty* *LETTERS* :D
yeah fr i use the left shift almost exclusively when typing 😂
If you learn proper touch-typing, you're supposed to right shift when capitalizing left hand letters.
I've been using keyboards for many decades, and until I watched this video, I hadn't noticed that I have NEVER used the right shift key.
@@MichaelLaFrance1 Same here, except I feel like *maybe* I use it when I capitalize a letter on the left side. Except now That I'm actually Trying it, Without exception, I Seem To use The left Shift key... Huh. Maybe it really it useless.
I don't trust aliexpress enough to make a big purchase like a laptop there, but seeing this thing I can't help but wonder how good laptops on there will be in the near future
11:40 that microphone is like 5x better than the HP they showed after
Around the disk partition I wonder if it is because people in China used to partition disks because it makes reinstalling OS easier. Back in the XP days it was common to restore an older version of a backed up OS or reinstall it completely. If you keep your files and even program files in a different drive. It makes the process faster and less painful. But it is 2023 now, seriously 😁
Ngl I didn't even noticed the Delete key until you pointed it out and I doubt I would have I dont even use the right shift in my typing at all. Ive completely adapted my typing to use the left shift exclusively.
Love how the HDMI port flipped in the details
would be interesting to see what it does with a better SSD and better memory (maybe some BIOS teaking)
Its good to have a separate partition for boot even in ssd coz in case of anything goes sideways you can formst only the drive with os on it and your data partition will be intact
Largely unnecessary these days as most people will backup their documents to the cloud, you should at LEAST be backing them up somewhere.
Just had that
I Loved this video man just 2 guys chilling testing out this laptop, this is like a dream job seriously.
5:30 holup.. People use right shift? (for anything other than a random shortcut/mute key
I think ingame shortcuts use that sometimes
I was hoping to see them fix the BIOS settings to see if it was even better the than the deal they got already!
It would be interesting to know if the bios has the settings to fix the performance issues.
on laptops the BIOS is often locked, but I would've liked to see them try atleast
@@Accolyte1 if the bios could be fixed to fix the ram and get turbo boost, then this laptop is worth the money hands down. Yeah it has a weird backspace/shift issue but who cares. Yes the top screen is bad but you could probably swap it with something better.
The second partition allows you to store your data and reformat the C drive while preserving your data without having to offload it to an external drive. HP used to do this....
would love to see a video where you try to upgrade this laptop and make it better! it seems like for the price and with a little effort it could be great
5:35 - Not that much of a dealbreaker as it seems. People who buy a laptop like this should have some tech knowledge, so it should be fairly easy for them to remap those keys.
Finally, someone that uses the RIGHT SHIFT KEY! I always get this unnerving feeling when I watch keyboard reviews and the reviewer has this unused right pinky... my right shift key even has the "well used gloss" on it :D
You can probably unlock the UEFI firmware yourself! There are ways to extract the image, edit it and repack it... these tools can be found on various forums related to UEFI hacking!
linus im not very old but one of the reason i partition is to keep C exclusive for windows installation. and use other partition for everything and tell antivirus to dont care about that drive so it wont delete files i want to keep also another benifit is it looks smoother nobody wanna see those windows folders all the time so having a partition with the only things i wanna see is much better
Partitioning your boot drive was pretty standard. Allows for an Erase and reinstall without affecting your data partition. Not really really now but until window 7 it was a good idea.
I would love to see a follow-up video on some upgrades and a BIOS fix. Would be interesting to see how much it costs to get a steal of a Laptop
Same here!
You can do a BIOS fix? I thought by saying that's how it is that they implied they couldn't reach the bios or something
@8:21 It uses ass wind technology...
would love to see some bios hacks and ram upgrades on this!
I thought I was done when I saw a barrel charging connector instead of USB-C in 2023, but then, that, keyboard, wow. It's like the lynx on a plane video when they get to the end and see the eyes wow
7:43 A reason to create partitions probably would be to keep the data safe in case of a fresh install of the Windows on the C drive partition probably. That's why I used it on my laptop with an HDD.
but on a ssd that would probably be redundant?
@@RezarkPvP why would that be? If i want to reinstall my Windows install i just delete the c partition and install it in the empty space, if i have a single partition i have to move data using Linux live boot(if that works) and then reinstall my OS.
Keyboards really are a dealbreaker. For example what put me off the framework laptop is that they went with the apple-clone design, which nobody asked for and they need separate top cover to fit a UK layout for example but they decided against it and they distorted the UK layout to fit the US layout cutouts...
That's rough Hopefully they make proper regional layout modules in the future, since keyboards can be deal breakers on laptops
I mean you could remap the keys... that power button though :/
@ you tell Windows to ignore it, so it doesn't go to sleep when pressed. Maybe it's even possible to remap (not sure whether it's possible, probably doesn't register as key press)
@@niter43 I have it set to do nothing cause everyone always presses it whenever they get the chance
Great review Linus. Now can you please do a gaming test on this laptop and also upgrade its ram?
Am I the only one who always shifts with left shift?
nope
No
The partition thing is common in some countries- people would typically put their important files on the non-OS partition so when Windows inevitably dies, the OS can be reinstalled without losing any of that data or having to extract it to another hard drive first.
And you can just plug the drive in a new pc for quick and simple transfer.(unless you activated the drive encription)
exactly, I still do that to this day.
he literally said its being done on an ssd not an hdd...
@@mahdi9064 No difference, the easy reinstall part still is true, the whole system partition can get wiped, where the other data can be relatively "safely kept" on the other partition. It's windows, not linux
This. Also a lot of these oems have a rather rudimentary "recovery" setup, where the "recovery" process just nukes the OS partition and writes a default image. If it weren't partitioned they'd actually have to make actual recovery software to pick out the user data and the system.