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Jordan can tell you in 10 seconds what a school will never tell you after 4 years.
I actually did do a test like Peterson said. I pushed my man verbally to nearly a breaking point. I needed to know that even if he lost his temper, he wouldn't hit me, like had happened to my mother and grandmother. He didn't loose his temper. His voice got very low and he said slowly, "Shut. Up." The he walked away. I never did that again. Didn't need to. He's been an amazing husband of over 3 decades and I have made it my job to bless him in every possible way. He's been an excellent father. I don't regret the test.
That's cause you don't listen😅
Because he prefers simplistic answers, even if the reality is complex.
The problem is his sexist generalisations actually apply to most men AND women.
@@enterpassword3313 Sexist Generalization?
When society is run by liars, speaking truth is an act of rebellion!
I'm gonna use that. So true
Worse than liars. If only that was the case of a couple wrongdoers or thieves here and there looking to start trouble, no it’s much more sinister than most people would think, these guys have their own private islands and devil worshipping cults/agendas and they’ve infiltrated themselves all around you and your children smiling and waving at them shaking all your hands and brainwashing them using the tvs but you’re all too blind to see it. You’re all being controlled by them, everything you see and hear. They’re coming for your kids all of them. It starts with them, they have their own beliefs and everything. They have a very strange obsession with children it’s part of all their rituals. At this point i know i sound batshit insane but this really is the truth idk how much longer it has to be right in our faces before anyone does anything about it. It has been reported numerous times by numerous people and still people still think it’s some kind of myth, wether those things exist or not is something else, this is what these people do at their gatherings. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to learn they even make live sacrifices at those fucked up gatherings
Have you ever seen Peterson debate an actual intellectual? It's painful to watch, and the fact that Peterson is a fraud becomes immediately apparent. His conversations with Sam Harris come to mind.
@@Thaco69 even in this video hes just being sexist. What he said applies to both men and women
more like an act of transcendence
Very few men or women have the awareness to test potential partners in this way. Bless the few that are on this level!
Yeah I shit tested my VIOLENT X... he nearly died. I can only take so much people
I think many do it unconsciously.
@@lorrainecouch348shit tested?
@@LovieRosee It was in the comments I believe? I'm only as good as the last 24 hours... that's why most of my comments look bonkers. I absorb the day, the week... the year... my life... then wallop!!! LOL
@@roamingmompreneur792subconsciously
I wish that there had been a guy like Jordan Peterson around 30+ years ago. I hope that many more young people see this and take him seriously. Thanks.
I couldn't agree with you more.
Kids definitely test your nerves.... lol lordy
So do men lol😂❤.. get on our nerves 😅
@@glameducatress sounds kinda sexist
@@glameducatress = man-hater.
Bro why are you guys calling her a man hater? It's done jokingly cmon
@@glameducatress gotta keep yall on your toes around here
He got me at, “and no one likes to talk about that…” 😃😂
What He Just Said is Not True and an Attempt of "Reverse Psychology"... A Educated and Knowledgeable Woman or Man is Recognize this BullSh!t....
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@@lingeriemeetswoman2958 what?
Nobody talks about that, beacose it's stupid non-sense that he made up, and doesn't happen in real world, why talk about something, that does not happen?
@@KyleCox404 men being aggressive, doesn't happen in the real world? What?
Half the time she's deliberately bullshitting you to test you and the other half she's trying to have a genuine loving connection in which she expects you to be open and vulnerable and trust her. Can anyone else see the problem here?
Yes, exactly. No human being can get away with both if they want something genuine. I think this view that Jordan has is very fatalistic, but no doubt true for a bunch of people.
@@eleanor4759 It would be nice if women realised this in large numbers whilst I'm still young. "Testing" your man with mind games completely undermines the foundation of trust and gives the man no option but to (1) treat you as a child with no capacity for integrity or (2) stop associating with you. Furthermore I'm becoming increasingly aware that it is often the case that when men "fail" his partner's tests (usually by giving her the benefit of the doubt, giving her the trust and openness she claims to desire) she comes to resent her man for showing such weakness and starts to abuse him psychologically and emotionally.
@@e_squared604 number 2 is always the best option imho, and I wouldn't say that children have no integrity ;) also, it does not seem you have had the good fortune of being around decent girls 😲 I'm sorry!
@@eleanor4759 I concur re 2 is generally the safe option. It certainly would be nice if these were all just bad apples we were describing as you suggest but unfortunately as a man that's a naïve outlook that makes you vulnerable to getting destroyed psychologically, socially and financially.
@@e_squared604 I just think it's a heartbreaking perspective from which to look for/enter a relationship, rather than assume the best and abandon it if your intuition tells you someone is untrustworthy.
Controlling your emotions is very important
Capacity for aggression is good but you have to be able to control it
Sure so women insult men to see if he's going to be agressive with the kids... a stretch a bit too far i think.
@@limoncr5205Well... If the man ends up being a danger to the family then it will end badly...👍 He can be a danger to those outside the family as a protecter, and that's a good thing because if will keep the family safe.
@@limoncr5205only a man who will feel weak will responds to it
@AmalRaj PR, so I can just go around and disrespect anyone I want and when they react I can go "ha ha you're weak". Definitely sounds like toxic feminine logic.
@Mia Penttinen, when you shit test a man you're not doing it thinking "how's he gonna handle kids". You're doing it to dominate him and inflate your own ego. A woman who does that isn't worthy of protection. And no man is going to want to protect a woman like that. No man goes out, meets an asshole of a chick, and thinks to himself "she's the one" lol
I am a woman and I so very much admire Mr. Peterson for his astute comments, passion, intelligence and, of course, because he is Canadian and courageous. We could do with a few more like him in this country. Gratitude kind sir🙏
Absolutely 💯. I watched this, and I can recognise how I've tested my husband.. to be honest, I'm a little concerned that he hasn't tested me to the limits that I have him... We've been together (only?) four years, and I have complete trust and faith in him... I can't understand how has so much faith in me though. I know that he has an immensely accurate pick of people and their motives... He's detailed (extremely) physical fights, hours before they happened.. he's told me about who was going to die tonight and how, even before the preceding events occurred... It's almost as though he's connected to a higher power or consciousness... I can't understand what he sees in me, but I'm so grateful to have SOMEHOW proven myself to him.. he's the yang to my yin.. ❤❤❤
*Dr. Peterson
I thought you actually had something to add to what he was saying
You admire him because he’s Canadian?
it's dr. peterson
That makes sense. My brother gave me that same advice! He said, "You wanna know what any guy is realllly like? Piss him off, not too bad tho but just enough to see how he handles stress." Excellent advice as it turns out.
Pissed off is not the same as stress. Anger is not the same as handling a a failing marriage, a bad job while going to school and cooking dinner because she wants to be lazy.
@@echofourmike85 It’s not about saving a marriage, it’s about preventing potential abusive relationships during the courting process.
He lost his man card by suggesting a woman to shit test her man. That's despicable. Hope he get shit tested by his future partner.
Your brother sounds like a joy to be around
The trouble is, some women don’t like a controlled and mature response to their aggression. They keep escalating until you are broken.
Yes it's called "shit testing" and she does it because she likes you. Sizing you up as a mate. But it can morph into an abusive behavior if she has narcissistic tendencies or a lack of self control.
Not in my experience. If a woman shit tests you, she's not saying yes to you. She's saying "maybe". If she's saying yes to you already, she won't shit test you, she'll simp to you. If a woman likes you, you can say and do whatever you want. A woman who shit tests you thinks she's better than you and views herself as out of your league, but she might give you a shot if you know how to respond in a way that either puts her at ease or triggers her insecurities.
@@smokingcrab2290 Well put
Wow... shit testing is a real thing. You people roll down a very different street to how I was brought up! The nearest I ever got to shit testing anyone was when it was their round and they just stood up, grabbed their cigarettes and lighter... hiccuped in my face... and left. FAILED THE FVCKER TEST
Some women aren’t testing a man’s temperament, those women are just mean and insecure. And I’m pretty sure it’s possible to know someone without playing games or at least I still hope so. People who test people and play games personally make me feel sick. Much love sent out to good quality souls in the world who are genuine.
100 percent facts. People need to grow up. Grown adults talking about games!
We’re just animals until we find god. Until then, every action is based on reproduction and survival.
@@owlmacaroni nah bro
I'm sure most women don't do it on purpose. It happens unconsciously. Those are unconscious drives deeply rooted in our psyches.
I whole heartedly agree. If my spouse or a friend of mine try to test me with those "games" then I will definitely walk away. Personally, I think most people who set up these mind "games" are unconsciously insecure about themselves and deep down, they are afraid that their partners would leave them one day. In the very core, they are afraid of being alone. Trust your gut feeling when it comes to relationships and just be your authentic self, always. Because when we truly accept and love ourselves, we will atract people with the same frequency who will accept and love us for who we are. When we truly love ourselves, there is no need to create any "games", "tests" or drama, because we realize that Life itself has enough challenges for us and our relationships, and those who are not meant for us will naturally fall off as time goes by.
Most women would go nuts if men started testing them the same way many women constantly test men around them.....
Women write entire articles about how they can barely handle the slightest criticism for any reason. They say they're emotionally stronger than men but then they can't keep composure if you even speak to them in a certain tone that you're not even aware of. Then they shit test men with these psychotic games to maintain their girl boss facade and then call men fragile for not wanting to put up with the abuse. There's a reason a sweeping majority of women are mentally ill, on meds, and in therapy. Wana know who shit tests women the most? Other women. They can't even handle each other.
True, imagine being rude to a woman that aproached you, i know i was because i am autistic, she grabbed my drink in what i now know was a flirty way and i thought how bloody rude and i snatched my drink back and she gave me the dirtiest look then punched me in the tummy hard and winded me ! and again imagine if when a guy aproached a woman who was rude as a test and he ended up punching her in the tummy and knocking the wind out of her lol ! the double standards are craaaazzzyyy high
No. Men decide they deserve to be 'irritable'
Lmao c'mon now. We all test each other
@@joeldwestvastly more women decide to be “irritable” than men
If a woman is harassing you just to “test your temper” then you want NOTHING to do with her.
There are easy ways to do this. Clog the toilet, tell him the light on my car is on I dont know what it means but its been bothering me for two weeks. Some men will absolutely lose their shit and verbally tear a person apart for anyt of those things. A decent man would educate and instruct her. Like he would his own children. And thats what she wants to know.
@@worndown8280 stop testing. It’s freaking stupid and annoying. Just interact with him like a normal person and not a complete weirdo, and find out from there. Stop purposefully doing crap to provoke him. Period. Just stop manipulating people. Just interact like a normal person.
@@datboi42 first off I am a man. None of these things are over the top. They are, if anything, minor things. To which observing a persons response, will give you a better sense of the character. None of this is manipulative either. Most people if asked dont know why they do things, so the best thing anyone can do is to observe. Talking is rather pointless, as your little rant shows.
@@worndown8280 why in the heck are you starting off a relationship showing your absolute distrust in a person, so you do contrived bull crap to test them. None of that is required, it’s just entertaining for women to do and a game for them, and it never stops. It is manipulative. Some of you nurtured men defend this goofy behavior. Pushing a man to his last straw just to see when he will break, doing something that requires him to do unneeded labor for you if you wouldn’t have done the stupid thing anyway, not fixing something you could’ve fixed yourself and bothering him to do it, all stupid and for no good reason. It should not be contrived. You’re effectively messing with him for no good reason when he has done nothing wrong, and when he is presumably not doing any of that to the woman, and he didn’t ask for it, and it is an insult to the man. It’s petty and dumb. Just naturally observe the person and be straight forward and upfront about concerns. Talking isn’t pointless, that’s how a child thinks "man". Part of your advice is for a woman to literally go out of her way and clog a freaking toilet. Stop making excuses for this bull crap.
@@datboi42 would you wanna date someone who’s attractive, yet acts like a total asshole? Obviously not. Women need to get to know someone before they wanna commit to a relationship. It doesn’t even have to be deliberate testing. if one of the examples that worn down gave happened naturally, and the man acts harshly by yelling and losing his temper, that relationship is probably gonna end. And I’m not saying that women want men that are weak and submissive either. Like Peterson said, women want men who are strong and capable but can control their strength in a way that doesn’t harm the people around them
I used to date a Cree girl who loved to stir up needless drama. I said "forget it" and married a nice, sweet, fit, friendly, feminine Chinese girl instead.
Women crave drama. Why do you think women watch nothing but tv shows of women telling at other women over who's fucking who?
@@smokingcrab2290 Some women prefer peace. They mostly don't reside in the West.
I’m not surprised. Being human and interacting with other humans, can be challenging. Even family members can get on your nerves. Male, female, and in between have strengths, flaws & weaknesses. We’re all human. Spiritual beings having a physical experience. Sometimes humans are kind & loving towards one another and sometimes they’re not. Biggie said don’t hate the player, hate the game 😅
Let me channel my inner Peterson : "Well that's because you can't pass shit tests from walking whales and you seek a easy way out you Peter Pan go clean your room " Ironic because it comes from a guy who ate bromazepams like popcorn, overdosed went into coma, and who fathered a single mother slut guess infallibility of women failed when it came to his offspring.
Based centrist dad and his Chinese wife just trying to barbecue.
I’m sorry but I had to laugh about him saying kids harass their parents, it was not the word I was expecting for a child’s behavior 🤣
Why would you "be sorry"???
Lol sure feels like that. But it's something we aren't suppose to say out loud. That our lovely children can be very annoying sometimes 😂
What He Just Said is Not True and an Attempt of "Reverse Psychology"... A Educated and Knowledgeable Woman or Man Will Recognize this BullSh!t....
calling the emotionally unmatured behavior of children "harassment" shouts narcissism to me. And let's note he equates female behavior with that of a child.
@@ultra.based.27 I don’t know, it’s a bit of a habit I guess
Be angry, and sin not. Anger is ok just needs to be controlled.
"(...)children check out their parents, by harassing them and seeing what happens." Truer words were never spoken
So true! I always watched how he behaved around children and how he handled losing games before we ever became boyfriend & girlfriend. We’re married now and I am very pleased to be married to him.
The difference is u never tested him on purpose...u did it the correct way...when woman test us with demeaning and evil tticks its disgusting and unfair because they hurt the way we see them
Wise woman!
So when you beat him at Monopoly, he took it well I assume? 😊
@@oldiesgeek454 😂
@@justhavingfun9798 😊 👍
This makes me feel even more confident about the girl I just met the other day, one of our first conversations was an intense philosophical one, and it felt like she was trying to push at my buttons in a subtle sense, but after that conversation fully concluded she seemed to ease up A LOT, which was a bit peculiar to me but it after this clip it seems like this is roughly what she was doing.
Bro, go get her.
@@bushbladesnbows.2378 Working on it :) She was already very clear that she likes me and called me out that I like her too when I said something that implied it 😂 so It's just a matter of following through properly more so than 'making a move'
Yawn. Pathetic
@@devin9205 W. How did it go?
@@gogojuice2621 She's very cautious and patient, as well as deeply values patience, so it's gonna take a little bit to unfold into a formal relationship, but it's moving along fantastically :)
Wife provokes me constantly. When I finally lose it, I can tell, she's happy and backs down. Or maybe she's unconscious, I can't tell.
Is your comment supposed to be funny? Yep domestic violence is such fun. Your being a douchebag and saying maybe she's unconscious is why you're single and if you're not I pray for any woman that ends up being tricked into dating you. No REAL man has to joke about Beating a woman to get a couple likes. A******!!!
Lmao that was funny though
Top tier comment
probably shes mad at you , anf wants you to feel the same she felt so
She is not testing you she is a sadist.
There's a difference between checking each other out vs putting them through their paces. And speaking as a petite woman who survived an abusive household, I much rather keep my distance from both than intentionally provoke. Things come up enough without inciting anything.
It bothers me that so many women like to play these manipulative mind games with men, what are we teaching our daughters? I base my life on the principle of honesty, it would never occur to me to speak or behave in a way with duplicitous intent. Honesty is the best policy.
It's not about being manipulative, it's just an unconscious behaviour we have as a woman. Pushing the guy to see his reaction is important and can save us if he has not the right behaviour. And only in conflict, you can learn a lot about somebody.
@@isis6256 if that's true, then why doesn't every woman behave like that? I don't do it, my friends don't do it. We were raised with male siblings, that could be a factor. We went to unsegregated schools, maybe that's it. Who can say, but what I can say is that this isn't instinct, it's learned behaviour, even if it's unconscious. It makes no sense to start fights or misbehave like a child just to see what your man's reaction will be. Life provides enough tests of character without inventing more.
@@CourtneyCoulsonit’s not just women. Men are mastor manipulators as well. Stop this radical generalizing to get a pat on the back by all these weirdos who hate women. It’s getting out of control. Men are not perfect. They are just as disfunctional. I grew up with that.
@@CourtneyCoulson thank you. God dam, thank you.
@Courtney Coulson maybe not every woman does this because there are so many more factors involved. But the point is: these are general behaviors. Even he could acknowledge that such a statement does not apply to every woman that exists. Only a sizable enough majority to make the statement accurate for most ppl. If you’re not like that, then good for you. Keep doing what you’re doing. But you aren’t everyone, everyone isn’t you, and no one claimed otherwise
I didn't know this and now I realize all my ex did was harassing me for a whole year "just to check" if I was her type finding out that she was absolutely childish because she was pretty much impulsively, immature and depent
Nah, likely she was just a psycho.
That's because this idea is garbage. If anyone is to be "checking" its the older men around you.
Over a year? Nah that is plain abuse. A woman might test you a couple times at most or observe how you act around children if they want to test you. That sounds like you were dealing with a psychopath.
Sometimes, her behavior fitting Dr. Peterson's description happens later in the relationship, at which point it serves no purpose for validating a potential Father. It then fall into abusive, possibly narcissistic behavior, and gaslighting, and / or other patterns.
Women check out men same as children by harassment
This man is almost perfect his knowledge the way he speaks his thinking topics presents himself dresses confidence n calm etc
stop testing me women. i don’t care if you like me or not.
I did this over 20 years ago, by buying a puppy. As I wanted to see if she would be a good mother. Turns out, only when it was convenient for her, to feed and give love to it. That’s how I naturally thought about it. 9 years on, we divorced. Love is love, regardless, if it’s a puppy or a baby, they both need everything, to live and be happy.
That's a really good idea! 👍
That is a completely false test and there is no correlation whatsoever. I really dislike the smell of dogs - it absolutely revolts me and I will not touch them or have them around me, period. But there is absolutely nothing I wouldn't do or give for my kids and grandkids
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@@lingeriemeetswoman2958 Ugh we get it. You know how to use copy and paste 🙄
Lol f*cking weirdo equating animals to children. I kill and eat animals constantly but woah guess what ive never done to a kid?
The bible actually urges fathers not to kill their children in anger (and not to provoke them), which I always found somewhat comical. It was problematic and common enough that fathers had to be adressed about it. As my colleague likes to point out, every warning sign has a history behind it.
That is just how nature works. If e.g. a dog breed has enough aggression to be a good guard dog it always comes with the side effect of that aggression may harm the wrong person. With men it's the same. You want them to be aggressive enough to defend their loved ones with their life if need be - so don't push their buttons recklessly while ignoring all warnings because of course that can go south. Every man has a little green hulk inside and most men lerned how to control it 99% of the time. Still you don't wanna play with fire.
Pretty sure you misinterpreted the first thing you said. I can’t even guess where you pulled it from
@@cosmictreason2242 You're right, I haven't read that part in a while (it's in there only once, so it's not as important as the rest I guess). If I remember correctly I read it in an amplified version of Colossian 3:21 "Fathers, provoke not your children, that they be not discouraged." But it's not in any standard translation I found. None the less the idea of fathers killing their children is obviously not gods will. But apparently he didn't think he had to tell us that directly.
@@Fotoschiki yeah it’s kinda covered under do not murder lol
@@cosmictreason2242 🤣 it is.
Smart women understand that you don't poke bears.
Men test women very fast on their quick behaviour and gentleness and politeness .
Man has to know if she is capble of controling her impulsive desire otherwise she going a stray Speaks volumes to our modern day females gone astray
People are who they are and what they want to do in many different ways. Humans need to evolve out of this childish game of “control to survival” and feeling this unnatural game as a natural way just because it has been enforced to humans out of fear and mindlessly push to survive. Including JP’s way of justifying the falsehood of religion. It is what it is. Do life your way and leave the rest! If you can’t, you are stuck!
@@sal2321 Yeah right, as evolving is something that's done by pure willpower. We are molded by our environment, and who's to say if the current comfy environment is going to last or not.
@@julius43461 It happens all the time. It is our nature as opposed to the unnatural and deceitful religions numbing humans into submission including JP’s.
They have the morals of an ally cat
@@sal2321 Right-wingers like Jordan are to naive to see that, that this is evolution. He probably seen one or two vagins in his life now his bitter.
If a woman gives a headache to test you. RUN
I kinda agree with you. But it can kinda mean 2 things. 1 You're "agressive" enough but they require more(to which ur comment applies perfectly) 2 you're not agressive enough in life and you gotta up yourself in some sense. Agressive not in a sense of putting ppl down, but raising your standards. Depends a lot tho on how they give you these "tests".
@@dakk3 No you always run. Those women are literal bottom feeders. They will give you a child that is mentally backwards. But hey, maybe she fits with you.
What He Just Said is Not True and an Attempt of "Reverse Psychology"... A Educated and Knowledgeable Woman or Man Will Recognize this BullSh!t....
You know men of old used to, and could discipline their women physically. But now its illegal, this "Dr" is some loser beta male that got lucky his work saw the day of light. For every 1 intellectual that gets famous a 100 will remain where they are. This fool will say anything to justify his marriage and failed life.
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Your wisdom, Jordan, is bottomless. Every tidbit you share, I admire. Thank you.
He certainly is one of few who relentlessly fortify their expertise despite exponential success and eminence.
He is mixing up aggression with assertiveness. The latter is what women seek.
Limitations of the English language. There's really no positive connotation word for aggressive/assertive.
Yup. Every single one of them. You checked too, right?
Shit testing always backfires 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣
As a woman ive never tested for aggresion. An aggressive man is very easy to see they can barely contain it lol
You have the judgment of a drunk Helen Keller
I can almost guarantee that you will do subconsciously
An aggressive man w/ temper issues will first show himself w/ his voice inflections: 1 - does he raise it often? Is he hostile sounding or rough around the edges often? Does he sound bitter? 2 - is his tone sarcastic often and rude, belittling, defensive, arrogant, etc...Does he boast a lot? 3 - Does he renegotiate promises and deals often? Bad signs! Here is an ex: even w/ business men, a client will agree to give me an hour to get ready to have them come over for an appt and then call that next day and say "I'll be right over in a few mins" and you say, "what happened to our agreement to have you give me an hour's notice so I could have time to get ready and plan this?" And he quips back, "you don't need an HOUR do you?" BAD BAD SIGN! This kind of disrespect and rudeness is his deep insecurity as a weak man and strong women w/ integrity sure don't need a weak baby-man to have to correct or raise! NO thank you! 4 - do they speak highly of ppl or put others down a lot? Do they act jealous of others' successes? Bad BAD sign if so! 5 - also - body language...if they give you looks like you're not worth their time, and they snarl or roll their eyes alot in a dismissive way, RUN for the door sweetie! What I am saying is this: You don't have to test a guy for aggression in just the physical ways. You have to spend quality time w/ him and have experiences and many conversations. Interact w/ him at restaurants, at events, to see how he treats others and how he REACTS to others. If a man never hits you physically but harms you emotionally and that is often - you are dealing w/ a narcissist! Never marry a narc or someone who is mentally ill. They are not worth your time, trouble or future heart break that they will bring you. It's better to be alone and sane than w/ a selfish man and insane! Yes he may be hot and sexy but it's better to have PEACE than to get a 'piece'....ya know what I'm saying folks!
Thank you! My thoughts exactly.
@@kaitlynkarol4600 you make more sense than this “man” that everyone seems to worship here. He’s everywhere polluting the dullard minds of the weak that love him so.
It’s strange a majority of people don’t understand what he’s saying. Especially women, but they agree with the statement on kids.
Wow! 😮 I totally agree with you on that one! It's amazing how one person can reveal so much in just 10 seconds, that's a true skill. I'll definitely have to check out Jordan's advice, thanks for sharing! 👍
theres nothing manly in getting harassed and somehow not doing anything
It depends on the harassment and the style it's done in. Also, the place and time. You are not considering nuance and that is what is wrong w/ this culture now. No one thinks beyond a quick sound byte. If it's a woman testing you, as long as she's not violent or mentally ill crazy, you should be patient w/ her and talk her down or use good psychology principles. If you're w/ a guy who is harassing you, you stand up to him in a stronger way. You defend yourself w/ a man physically who comes at you first and if a woman gets violent , you hold her arms behind her back or call the cops or both. Man, this is just common sense and decent morality in our roots as humans. Is your heart's roots wounded so much, you can't see how to find balance and rhythm to this?
@@kaitlynkarol4600 stop projecting
Thank you
You do do something. You set boundaries. Tell them to behave and ignore them for a while.
@@kaitlynkarol4600 don't tolerate women testing you. Just break up and move on.
This is true. I was watching for aggression and reaction in one man and when i saw the lack of ability to control it I knew he wouldn’t be suitable as a father.
If you provoke aggression in a man, you deserve it.
I'm so glad I'm in a generation of humans that got to learn from Dr Peterson's teachings. To me he's like the prophet of this lifetime.
Men and women need their alone time daily, it’s mentally beneficial.
I just checked my woman for not checking herself... she sent me a lovely text this morning... with an apology that I wasn't looking for... the mere fact she looked at her behaviour was more than enough... she's got it figured out now... better for her, better for us..
And is she happy?
@@banecrew4963 when I say I checked her ,I should have said I refused to engage with her emotional "its all about her " attitude.. she actually did apologise.. and yes she's perfectly fine..
@@QuadriviumNumbers cheers brother but I'm all over dat shit they play
@@QuadriviumNumbers like what she could possibly want to test by that ?
If a woman is intentionally provoking me it's over. That's why it takes time to build a good relationship, without a doubt we'll have disagreements and you will experience how I react firsthand, you'll see that I conduct myself respectfully and have good control of my emotions. But if I realize that you're intentionally creating problems between us in an attempt to get a reaction out of me I'm going to walk away from that relationship. I've got a couple ex's who played mind games like this just for fun, and to get other people's attention and pity. If she thinks this is the way to go about learning who her partner really is then she needs to look inward and fix herself.
@@rosezful5241 no he understands it.because yeah the woman wants to see emotional stability but if you keep reacting super calm and with no aggression she s gonna walk all over you to the point that doesn’t see you overall capable protector etc In addition some women crave that emotional turmoil for the fun of it ,something like a drama queen ,which is very annoying and taxing after a while
True
@@rosezful5241 my ex put her hands on me multiple times, cheated, told everyone around her that I was abusing her, and did her best to tear me down. I didn't learn about the abuse accusations that she had made until almost a year and a half after she had started making them. I don't need to prove to you that Im not abusive because the people who matter to me already know that, but I can honestly say that I never put my hands on her and I never did anything with intentions to hurt her. Countless times I tried to walk away she would show up to my house drunk in the middle of the night crying in the street and I would end up carrying her inside and taking care of her. I did everything I could to be a good partner to her and she used that to manipulate me. When I love someone I put my whole heart into it, there's nothing I wouldn't do to take care of that person so when I can see that a person purposefully manipulates me to get what they want regardless of how their manipulation affects me I refuse to give them a position in my life that would allow them to do so. I'm not perfect or special but I do know My exes didn't dodge anything, they lost one of the most loyal and caring men they'll ever know. You know nothing about me and the fact that you immediately accuse me of being a bad person says more about you than it does about me. I'm still just as loving and loyal as before I'm just more careful who I trust with that part of me. I refuse to ignore red flags, like manipulation and lying.
@@RestLess-MinDsame happens with people, other men make fun of youa dn bully you, if you keep it super calm
Not all shit tests are mind manipulation games. It's best a man knows the differences
It's awesome someone is exposing unspoken and even unconscious truths!
I think modern men need to check women out WAY more than in past times
In summary, women test men to see if he can control his temper and men test women to see if she's able to commit to a long term relationship. I fully agree with Jordan Peterson here. A lot of people bitch about other people playing mind games when it comes to relationships. However, you can't just blindly trust anyone you're interested in. People have to earn your trust. Testing your partner before you being in a committed relationship is important because it filters out the shitty people from the genuinely good ones.
I don't get how men test women ...didn't get the last part
@@MsUnknown007men test women by observation. Women test men by provocation. Only the good women ‘test’ men by observing their actions rather than trying to cause them. I will never put up with a woman who likes to play stupid little games.
"you can't just blindly trust anyone you're interested in" There's this thing called "getting to know each other" and typically in a healthy relationship model it involves things like communication, positive reinforcement, conflict resolution, mutual trust, forgiveness, love languages, etc. You day shit testing filters out the shitty people from the good ones, yeah you're right. If a woman shit tests me she's showing me she's the shitty one, and I'm the good one.
But what if a guy with a hot hot temper sees through the game and plays along for awhile and passes the immature test, which does happen. Guess what she’s in an abusive physical and verbal relationship. If you are a woman and you are sincerely not messing with the man and he gets pissed off, run away asap. There is a big big difference here. If men get mad at women for simply being a woman with no voluntary mind games that is on the man. That means that dude has some serious issues. Women that play mean and vicious mind games are man haters and will be alone and simply bring out the worst in men, mainly good men. This isn’t high school anymore so these women need to grow up. You can thank toxic feminism for this and that’s why this MGTOW Movement is happening. Enough is enough with this behavior.
@@MsUnknown007 sometimes is subconsciously we test women , like you ask her about her past and you ask her body count , that’s a test many women fail , they will start to brag and tell you how slutty they were to impress you but they don’t know you were for pure answer, I have asked this question to many women and 90 percent Fail they don’t know it’s turn of for women , right there and then men will say yea she’s just a smash and I am out
the question is, why do women KEEP checking out men long after they have had kids
I don't think we realize we are doing it
@@gaia7240 take accountability...yes yall do
Why do men keep checking out women after hav-look dude this question can be spat right back at you dudes. Y'all are a buncha cheaters and harassers
My theories: she want to check his aggression is still there You need his aggression for protection for the rest of your life, if you haven’t seen it for a while you want to know if he’s lost the capacity or if he just hasn’t flexed the muscle in a while, kind of like checking for weaknesses in his armour It kind of reminds me of gorillas when they chuck trees around and beat their chest for no apparent reason but the females are able to see his is still strong healthy and aggressive and a good gorilla to stick with It’s just a reassuring thing somehow to know if push comes to shove that he can flip a switch. Oorrrr displays of aggression and dominance is attractive to women maybe she wants to feel some sparks - she done one check in early stages of dating and it was attractive so she got into a long term relationship and then he stops doing the thing that attracted her in first place and she’s just trying to find it again Ooorr maybe she just genuinely and earnestly disagrees with something and is trying to speak up and it’s not some sort of check at all Oooorr maybe the women isn’t as submissive as the guy originally thought and she’s actually low in agreeableness and he didn’t run his checks thoroughly Plus men will also keep checking women are still submissive to them throughout the whole relationship, especially after kids as he wants to know his kids are being raised how he has envisioned My husband definitely comes up with random things for me to do or new plans that to me look fairly unimportant and I’m sure he’s subconsciously testing to see how I respond to his command Sorry for the massive paragraph! I thought it’s an interesting question
Probably because you keep slipping up?
I love it…so true! I can’t stand a male, who may be a potential date, with no self-control.
Jordan Peterson for PRIME MINISTER ❤👏👌
Testing temper for tolerating children... interesting, never occurred to me. JP excellent again.
It's not for children. It for their own fucked up insecurities
True. Also how a man treats people in service/servers, others children, the elderly and animals, sometimes especially animals because a kicked cat won't spread the word and expose them where a vocal human might. I had my first proper date after seeing a man a little for a few week... and through playful teasing and joking, we were BOTH testing each other and I have some green flags and 'yesses' of course, but also, some reservations about how he copes, manages and takes care of himself too. I'm going through my own stuff and I understand him....But I'm not going to stand by while he goes off the rails, nor be his mother, nor his rehabilitation centre or saviour, or project manager. I am my own project right now. However, from a place of love, I can support him, be his cheerleader, help him and help take care of him but he has to take the initiative himself mostly, pour back into me/us or else it's unfair, one sided and I'll have to break my own heart to keep myself going and evolving. I'm not going to be dragging him through life, but if he wants to walk alongside me, he's most welcome. I'm not ditching him, that was my old, trauma based defense mechanism sad way of being.. However, I'll address and see a few things, see what happens, have some fun too of course and learn some new things. He's going through a crisis, I'm going through a transformation after my own crisis. We may not work out but it had better be for good reasons. Everyone deserves a chance, grace and love. But not at our own personal detriment. I used to be attracted to horrible men who were just cruel, not in control (raised in trauma and abuse so it's understandable that my radar was off), but I'm being more realistic and sensible and yet admitting that this strong, masculine energy viking like man is SOOOOO appealing to me and yet, he has to have balance and be addressing and healing his demons. I'm happy to walk that road with him. And if not as his lover which is more intimate and intense, then I'm still happy to help as a friend and stand back and see. I can't overthink and worry too much but also not be over romanticising and excusing either. I find Dr Peterson so helpful. Men have needs and because of a fairly toxic society and maybe for some, a broken upbringing, they're tainted and conditioned and find it hard to heal because in toxic masculinity circles it "not manly". The other week, his shoulders were tense and just a little rub and he virtually melted, I cooked for him and he said he's not used to it, that almost broke my heart.. we need each other in so many ways and it's time we realise some truths. And I need to ask more questions about the interesting foster parents he had. There's treasure in there.
Feminism is the problem. Also may i add that as a woman ur dury is to be submissive to a man and continue ur bloodline. When it comes to family its its not about u anymore. Many western woman r very egotistical and that has destroyed society. So drop the feminism
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Thanks for this, you spoke on these matters beatifully.
Need someone like you damn. Good stuff and good luck.
If a woman is taking jabs at me in a way that I know she's joking, then I know she's inviting me to play. But when she's making remarks that are genuinely targeted towards making me feel lesser than, that's when it turns from "vetting" to just plain emotional abuse, and those women should be rewarded with giving her shit right back.
My God, how this man loves to hear the sound of his own voice!
This man has the SEXIEST brain and the most selfless heart & soul. Love him. Wish the very best for you always ❤
And when a woman tests you by flirting with other men that is your answer. She tested you and herself at the same time.
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And when men test their better half by flirting with other women…
@@Hans_Magnussonto the dump he goes
I regularly test my girl by sleeping with other women, too. Better be safe than sorry.
That's hoe behaviour. Drop her immediatly.
I think there needs to be a subtle distinction between observational tests and contrived tests. -Having a date be potentially surrounded by annoying kids (e.g. family get together) and watching what happens is not contrived. -Purposefully acting a fool to test his limits is contrived No man worth his salt would object to the former even if you told him. Pretty much every man would have a sour taste his mouth AT THE VERY LEAST towards the latter.
This is behaviour that has extremely deep roots into our subconscious. It is not exactly that women plan out to test someone's boundaries or men plan the testing of her loyalty or whatever. This 'testing' is not a bad thing. You would probably condemn women for making a bad choice in partner when anything goes wrong, which would be seriously hypocritical.
@@gusjeazer if you're trying to argue against my position, then you're defending people acting out because it's just a test. My assertion is that a good limitation on testing is no contrived tests, only organic ones. A classic contrived one is what my aunt did: dress provocatively with her now husband, go to the bar with him, and see if he 'defends your honor from pigs'.
@@zelda12346 no I don't defend people acting out because it's a test. That is not really what Jordan Peterson is talking about either. This '''''testing''''''' is part of how men and women interact with each other on a fundamental level. Your example is a single instance that seems to have happened once in a single relationship you probably know very little about. This is not what is meant by either me nor by JP. Yes, clip and clear contrived tests would of course fall under this testing, but that is not the norm and not what is meant.
I have never intentionally tested a man and maybe that's been my problem, as it does say in the Bible to test the spirit and to test a friend. Instead, by situations that arise let's me observe the reaction of a man 🤔... although some can fake it until you get into a relationship with them, then they pull the rug from under you, or maybe that's just been me🤔
@@zelda12346 Thank you for sharing your comment! It was exactly what was on my mind. As a man, if a woman delivers a contrived test and does not have children it is a definite red flag and I definitely will not be looking to initiate a long term relationship with that person. And if I did continue the relationship it would be so that I could conduct a few of my own contrived tests just to prove a point. I feel as if I would never initiate a test without being tested first as I normally rely on observations. I think introducing your partner to your family is the natural way of "testing" them and should be obvious. Most of the actions you decide to take in the presence of your partner are actions that you are saying that you would want to have continued so think on that before acting impulsively. I think if you were to contrive a test of your partner's aggressiveness (because women can be aggressive too) then you are wanting to see more of that and would then build a habit of experiencing that, which is the exact opposite of what most heterosexual males are looking for in a female partner. Contrived testing of your partner's traits in any relationship is probably one of the worst things you could do in my opinion. You really just have to have patience and not be in need of a relationship all the time so that you can get a good look at your prospector. And if we were as a whole society able to build patience and practiced abstinence from sex without the intention of possibly having kids then we will all experience better intimate relationships because we would have learned to focus on the things that bring us together and not the things that divide us. If any one reading this feels as if they are a codependent being all the time, just take some deep breaths in those lonely moments and practice breathwork daily so you can learn to handle your stress better because no one will be able to do that for you.
This man's a Teacher 👏👏👏
Wow. Such important messages. Just when I think he’s said the most profound thing I’ve ever heard about human behavior or society, he tops himself. Over and over and over.
This isn’t a woman or men bring this is a people thing. We test others in various ways before forming alliances to ensure we can trust them.
In distinctively sexed ways though
Men’s tests are more passive. We simply observe whether or not you have the capacity to stop testing us after we’ve passed.
You have it backwards. Men will insult women, not show up when expected, parade other women in front of them, engage in jealousy, and try to dictate a woman's movements. The way that men test women is aggressive. Women test men passively. Think about it. A woman it testing to see if a man is aggressive. She isn't aggressive. He is.
@Bella Taleysnik unless you have, in which case she’s toxic
You do realize the testing never ever stops right?
Why should we stop when we have so much to lose? Its survival
@@tcrijwanachoudhury think about what you’re saying. If you never stop, you’re saying no one can ever pass, so why are you even doing the test?
Born too late for world exploration, born too soon to explore the galaxy; Born in the same time as Dr. Peterson 🙏
When there is no real love in relationships, both man and woman have to check each other out all the time, but if there was love, there could be a different story
It’s much more complex and subtle than that too. Harassment is easily identifiable. But the sh1t tests happen all the time, even in what seems to be a normal rational conversation. A woman rarely is communicating (only) what her words are saying, because they work mainly on the emotional level. Men, read The Rational Male and learn how to identify and deal with the sh1t tests
The only winning move is not to play
@@JoseRRodriguez absolutely not worth the time, money and mental energy today. not talking about risks but even success is not really a success
I heard a good way to "test each other" by taking a long road trip together.. my husband and I did this during our second year of marriage.. boy, was that an eye-opener!
how does that work
@@lastraven7205 - I'm guessing bitten by mosquitoes, hair growing on your face etc. Getting insulted etc
You get to see them at their worst. Which is a good indication of the type of person they are.
Second year of marriage sounds a bit late in the game.
Most "shit tests" are BS, unreliable, don't work, and risk false feedback. However, this specific example for testing a man for self control actually makes sense. Very interesting points made
It the way he held the pen and paper for me... It shows how study worthy and serious this stuff is
Where does this part come from? Where is the full version?
The data is in And it is perfectly clear. Professor Jordan Peterson is the Wisest Voice among us. 🙏 Godspeed Friend. Hoping You the Best. Assisting with Prayers.
Women want a man that really wants her and will work hard for her and be able to protect her and her children. That will go the extra mile with her.That will make time and effort.
that is the problem working for people cause lrelationships failure you to work together WAKE UP YOU ARE NOT CREATED TO SERVE HIM BUT ELOHIM YOU LOOK TO SEE WHAT PURPOSE HE WANTS YOU TO SERVE
Some women want a wimp so they can mess around with an Alpha.
"A man's got to know his limitations." Harry Callahan
Y'all listening...that was a jewel. JP 👊🏾
I used to purposely fail these tests and then tell them I failed on purpose. It was funny.
Cheers, i used to do that too ! and also when a woman was testing me id say stuff like im sorry i dont knowif this is a test or not but im autistic so i have to leave, they would get really angry and pretend that i was crazy and it wasnt a test lol !
All I heard was gaslight women and I’m here for it
Great advice coming from someone who has been emotionally and physically abused
I giggle at the the fact that this is true, and I recall my tests. Younger folks of first loves are often blinded and don’t suffer from these things, but uh after you get hurt enough, then yes it’s learned to test a man’s loyalty, demeanor ect... It’s a blessing to know without a doubt, when your best friend has your back through thick in thin. True love isn’t a fairy tale at least for me, but an example of what’s listed in 1 Corinthians ch 13, which I also learned after engaging with my partner.
The funny thing is that women say they unconsciously test men but recognise that they test men 😅
Never heard of reflection and self analysis?
"How can I count on you to stand up FOR me, when you cannot stand up TO me?" - Woman
The age of damsels in distress is over, stand up for yourself, lady Equality, it's what they wanted......so let them fight their own battles
I'm glad to see women commenting and being positive for male opinions and showing that no matter how media tries to demonize people and group us up, we can all still agree on common grounds.
i have my problems but if someone is provoking im done talking to them ((if i can)) "game" is for shallow people, reality is for close ones.
I don't see it as a dirty game, just natural behaviour. What do you know about your inner thoughts and your "games"?
@@asamicat8323 man be quiet
Testing of a female can control herself is necessary and also tells you if she’s intelligent, 2 birds 1 stone
I’m good I’d rather not test others and be not tested as a result and be perfectly content not to play other peoples mind games. Good doing my own thing thank you.
I’ve been tested by men and it felt demeaning, especially since they are generally so untrustworthy. If he’s checking ME out that way, it’s because HE’s been guilty of doing something sneaky. I broke up with every guy who “tested” me, even when they admitted that not only did they test me but that I passed the test with flying colours. I have nothing to hide but I certainly doubt people who do.
I failed a test miserably in a trip with an ex, I just completely lost my temper and yelled at her angrily about something inconsequential. I still don't know why I did it, it ruined the trip, and she deservedly broke up with me a few days later. I was taking some medication for my upset stomach, but it didn't excuse my behavior.
Your honesty and taking responsibility is quite refreshing.
Ah yes the classic “shit test”
It tells the man the woman is shit
My X-dad is a complete and utter shit... the test? He sided with NATO instead of his own flesh and blood. BEYOND SHOCKING
Social media enters the conversation
If a woman takes pride in testing you take pride in showing her the door.
You seem slow bro. You would want your daughter to test a man to see if he's abusive or crazy
@@joys8634 No, because i don't want a daughter that plays those stupid ass mind games.
@@joys8634 you seem slow. Stupid purposeful tests are insulting and wrong.
@Jo Ys, yeah I want my daughter to go around treating dudes like shit for no reason and thereby turning them into angry vindictive dicks towards her because of her own unwarranted negative behaviors thereby creating the abusive men she fears... Shit testing is the result of an avoidance attachment issue and an unstable upbringing. It's a self fulfilling prophecy that insecure women project onto men. They think "he might abandon me, therefore I'm going to push him away and then tell myself I was right when he leaves". Or its an invitation used by weak women who want you to degrade them because deep down they're attracted to toxic men.
I'll also add that it's the tactic of insecure women who genuinely enjoy trying to hurt mens emotions to make themselves feel powerful. Classic beating others down to lift themselves up
All women will hear is "women check men out like a kid checks out their parents" DID HE JUST CALL ME CHILD???!!!
Women are mostly children mentally.
Women are children
100% correct. A smart woman does this.
This made me want to cry.
If she does that, I'll likely lose all respect for her. I wouldn't treat her badly, but she'd immediately become very uninteresting to me and not worth pursuing
Exactly. I've received messages to provoke me from men. Blocked them.
Why is that too bad for you?
@Asami Cat I'd say it's not, it gives me an opportunity to see what kind of person I'm dealing with. I can make an informed decision about whether or not I want anything to do with her. Then again, it really is a crying shame that people cant just treat each other with consideration, kindness and dignity
@@anonymousanomalous9937 I think you misunderstood. These are necessary things to do before trusting someone, it's just natural, nothing toxic (under certain limits, you can understand that). I can't simply ask you "are you gonna be a good father?" Because your answer would be insincere or unknown even for yourself. How can you trust and give yourself to someone you don't really know? People aren't perfert or just cover the worst of themselves, you do that too. Women need to know if they are safe. Doing what you describe is suicidal, nobody want to feel cheated in the deep, so when you choose the right partner for your future children you need to know how he's gonna be. Anyway not everyone do that and a lot depend on the self security/past experiences the girl you are frequenting had. Take JP advice as it is and not a rigid view model of human behaviour
@@asamicat8323 Psychopaths and narcissits pass all those tests and a few normal and good men fails some times those same tests. Those tests means nothing useful.
Modern women can’t control their impulsive desires. It’s been proven many many times
So then according to Jordan's theory that would mean that men just aren't marrying any women these days because they all failed the test is that what you're trying to say? Are you married sir? I really hope that your wife is not controlling her urges in fact she may just have the sense to just get the hell out of there. 😊 If you are not quality then don't expect a woman to commit.
@@RavenLunatik wrong men are the gate keepers of commitment women are the gate keepers of sex. Men marry women they feel are loyal loving and would make good mom to their kids. If she has non of those qualities she is not deserving of his commitment. She decides who she has sex with that is her power but many women just give that away thinking it will get them commitment without securing commitment first.
I couldn't agree with you more. Conversely, I do believe it also happens to be the case in men.
In my experience it's always been the men who stray
I do concur with you but the contrary can be also true. Nonetheless, women do pay higher costs for men who desert taking into account the history of intimacy.
Ask her to pick something up in a store that's out of her way ( within reason ) ..if she says no or argues about it she's out ..don't travel oceans for someone who won't jump a puddle for you
Some humans are just bullies plain and simple. They are trouble maker's and lousers. That is what a bully is a louser.
Not true. No one is born a bully. Hurt people hurt people. The pain is always spread from somewhere. Hence why it is our job to transform acts of hate into love (for example: through forgiving someone who has wronged you) - which is extremely difficult! But it is what is right.
That’s the first time I’ve heard that men are looking for commitment lol
Men are always looking through the lens of his woman being his woman.
Every wise person is... once they find a good enough partner.
@@josiahwright3751 I would say that if you sign a prenub then marriage is still the best option for most people...
@@josiahwright3751 Wow... didn't know that! And don't know much about laws in general but that seems like a big issue :/
@@josiahwright3751 And I'm from Panamá so I will ask whats the case for my country.
Thank you Jordan, for many things.
As a woman. He's 100% correct. We test men. We need to make sure they can meet the mark. I don't know why we do this! We're just wired this way!
Yes we do these kinds of tests without even thinking about it.