US Navy Reveals TERRIFYING Truth Behind The OceanGate Submarine Tragedy | Titan Documentary

2023 ж. 15 Шіл.
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US navy heard implosion. We dive deep into the thrilling and tragic story of OceanGate's submersible, the Titan, in our new documentary. This engaging narrative charts the heart-stopping search and rescue operations led by the US Navy and Coast Guard, 900 miles east of Cape Cod, following the mysterious disappearance of the Titan.
Discover the chilling reality of a race against time, as the rescue teams faced harsh weather conditions, poor visibility and a fast-depleting oxygen supply aboard the submersible. Unearth the shocking delay in the alert sent out about the Titan's disappearance and ponder over the numerous speculations regarding this strange occurrence.
Learn about the involvement of various entities, from the Canadian armed forces to commercial and research vessels, in this massive operation. But what was the biggest concern during this rescue mission? Surprisingly, it wasn't the depth or the limited oxygen supply, but the Titan's very structure.
Explore the harrowing narrative of this experimental carbon-fiber vessel that went dark, leading to terrifying speculations about its hull being compromised, making it fragile during recovery or even a possible total failure. Gain insights into the chilling events leading up to the discovery of debris from the Titan near the Titanic wreckage on the seafloor and the unfortunate implosion that led to the loss of lives.
Intriguingly, the U.S. Navy, with its high-tech acoustic detection system, had picked up the sound of this implosion hours after the Titan started its voyage. But why didn't they immediately disclose this information? And what did the US Navy hear in Titan Submarine's last moments? #titan #oceangate #usnavy
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  • Video starts at 23:20.

    @claudiodiaz9752@claudiodiaz975210 ай бұрын
    • The hero we need.

      @chickenpermission@chickenpermission10 ай бұрын
    • Thanks. I am so sick of the same shit over and over. They need to just get to the point.

      @DMD81773@DMD8177310 ай бұрын
    • 😘😍😎

      @cottoncandisandi6109@cottoncandisandi610910 ай бұрын
    • you deserve the best 🧠

      @baddiemwah@baddiemwah10 ай бұрын
    • thank you

      @mkoury83@mkoury8310 ай бұрын
  • First rule I learned from my SCUBA instructor: " Never fight the ocean. It always wins." Never forgotten those words.

    @EdSileo@EdSileo10 ай бұрын
    • And an old sailor told me as a child, NEVER, NEVER disturb a shipwreck. It is a underwater grave and the lost souls will retaliate those who dare to disrespect them. Rush was trying to profit on the underwater grave of over 1500. I'm surprised it took so long, especially when you take into account the cutting corners all motivated by his greed to profit off the loss of others. This was not a scientific dive, nothing more than a tourist trap. Literally.

      @sds5502@sds55029 ай бұрын
    • So true. And applies to riptides at the beach. Riptides don't kill people, panic does. Same principle with to diving.

      @helentaylor7132@helentaylor71329 ай бұрын
    • Thats a great rule.

      @marcellinebruck7083@marcellinebruck7083Ай бұрын
    • that’s great.

      @YourLocalRat378@YourLocalRat378Ай бұрын
    • When you think you have beaten mother nature (The Sea) wait a second because you will be in the water or at the bottom of the ocean. Consider all the ship that have sunk at sea it a single moment.🤨 I served 21 years in the US Navy and have experienced seas that could have sank my ships several times if we had not been well prepared. EBW USN Ret Servant of God

      @ebw_servant_of_GOD@ebw_servant_of_GODАй бұрын
  • Imagine diving In an "unbreakable" sub, to visit the "unsinkable" boat!

    @musician96gaming34@musician96gaming344 ай бұрын
    • You could not pay me any amount of money to get in that thing even on dry land. And cinched in from the outside? Just no.

      @bobbiingram4258@bobbiingram42582 ай бұрын
    • Both named Titan (ic)

      @transvonjng@transvonjng2 ай бұрын
    • @@transvonjngthe titans ultimately were defeated!! They were taken down and never on top again! Some symbolism for ya huh

      @Thelstlaugh@Thelstlaugh2 ай бұрын
    • Hail Satan 🤘

      @pattyann8661@pattyann86612 ай бұрын
    • Hail Satan 🤘

      @pattyann8661@pattyann86612 ай бұрын
  • It is sad that these people died. It is silly to pretend that they were noble. They simply had money and bad judgement

    @jdsalinger3731@jdsalinger37314 ай бұрын
    • Just like the Titanic, people died from people's foolishness, especially by ignoring warnings because of arrogance and pride

      @lvelez1999@lvelez1999Ай бұрын
    • 31 000 palestian civilians !?

      @strangevideos3048@strangevideos304821 күн бұрын
    • The son seemed to have the most sense out of all of them!

      @glenforde6558@glenforde655815 күн бұрын
    • Tf is wrong with you??​@@strangevideos3048

      @its.sapphire@its.sapphire11 күн бұрын
    • @@glenforde6558 Lives were lost, which is tragic, but I find it even more so for the son. He was just a kid and from my understanding, was only obliged by his father because he requested he join him for Father's Day. Allegedly, he didn't even want to go! It hurts to think about.

      @Gohaeism@Gohaeism11 күн бұрын
  • They weren’t a group of “Intrepid explorers” they were billionaire tourists, a kid that didn’t want to be there, a negligent CEO and a Titanic Expert. They were classified as crew falsely so that ocean gate could reduce their liability.

    @ryanorusio1056@ryanorusio105610 ай бұрын
    • Friendly reminder that Hamish Harding was on Epstein's list

      @ctg4818@ctg481810 ай бұрын
    • yeah, they kept being referred to as crew, by many news outlets across the world.

      @imalrockme@imalrockme10 ай бұрын
    • ​@@D3v611Am I an explorer if I go to Paris to explore the Eiffel tower?🤔

      @bernice6867@bernice686710 ай бұрын
    • I feel so bad for the kid. What kind of parent does that? I can't understand why the mother didn't put a stop to it. If that was me, and my hubby wanted my son to do something so risky, and my son was clearly not happy to do, there would be no chance of my child going anywhere. I know sometimes we have to encourage our kids to try and overcome their fears, but that doesn't include things that are so risky that they have to sign an agreement that stated that they could die in the process!

      @samsara-summermooncomehome5881@samsara-summermooncomehome588110 ай бұрын
    • ​@@D3v611 Well the mother is as bad as the father was. They had to sign their life away ffs. The son could've been so worried about losing both of his parents so took her place, but either way they were wrong to let him go on such a wreckers, pointless trip.

      @samsara-summermooncomehome5881@samsara-summermooncomehome588110 ай бұрын
  • David Lockridge is a hero. He put his conscience before money and blew the whistle. A GREAT man, in my opinion. Very rare to see morals before your job nowadays.

    @Martyz-TV@Martyz-TV10 ай бұрын
    • where are his response? Im sure he feels bad but not one comment from him after accident.

      @bikelifewithalex120@bikelifewithalex12010 ай бұрын
    • He did his due diligence to try and stop Stockton rush from killing people with his recklessness

      @radiationshepherd@radiationshepherd10 ай бұрын
    • @@bikelifewithalex120 He wants to avoid any lawsuits. Don't blame him.

      @KeithWF@KeithWF10 ай бұрын
    • Crushed by a woke implosion of colorful diversity. Gosh it just feels fuzzy ya know? SO fuzzy!

      @baneverything5580@baneverything558010 ай бұрын
    • @@baneverything5580 You didn’t do well at school I guess…

      @jonhall9000@jonhall900010 ай бұрын
  • My wife and I were a part of the live stream and the announcement of the game plan to take payment for people to dive into the deep. Being a fan of titanic lore, wifey jumped on board,(figuratively of course. ) we spoke about the idea with the founder and his initial plan was 250k each. We had thought about being married down deep at the Titanic. Time passed and the idea was inspiring, so we decided to go. Oceangate saw the opportunity to upcharge and make money on us so we went back to just a dive w/o the wedding. We were scheduled initially for the march 23 dive. But we decided that the dive wasn’t for us when my wife found out the sub was not classified. I’m alive today because of her intuition.

    @christopherclark6898@christopherclark68982 ай бұрын
    • And God's deliverance!!❤

      @gladysvogel9442@gladysvogel9442Ай бұрын
    • The best I told you so ever, can't even be mad if she said it lol.

      @bradglenn8570@bradglenn8570Ай бұрын
    • Crazy fact; they ran out of oxygen way before 72 hours.

      @jacquessowhat3680@jacquessowhat3680Ай бұрын
    • I can think of a lot better places to get married than an ocean graveyard! So glad you’re still with us. Smart lady!

      @user-od5sh1ck5g@user-od5sh1ck5gАй бұрын
    • And then she left the oven on

      @user-qk9yh1zp4u@user-qk9yh1zp4uАй бұрын
  • The worst thing about the OceanGate tragedy is that it could have easily been avoided by adhering to stringent safety management. Instead they ignored safety and it cost the lives of 5 people. Never, ever ignore safety concerns.

    @nathanvandermeer@nathanvandermeer3 ай бұрын
    • The person behind the safety program is what makes it safe. You can go through all the process, its only a matter how? Having an OSHA stamp would not have made it safer. With all the shoddy materials, firing of responsible people to push a 'dream' should raise the flag right there.

      @spudhut2246@spudhut22463 ай бұрын
    • And maybe the CEO should have avoided his policy of deliberately not hiring "50 year old white engineers". I had to replay the video the make sure I heard him right.

      @logowatchman@logowatchman2 ай бұрын
    • Very Wise and Appropriate observation and advice.

      @TheBkmillerjr@TheBkmillerjr2 ай бұрын
    • @tchman yeah you heard right, everybody heard it yet not many talk about it, we could have come to that conclusion even without him saying it but damn, he said it^^ and he paid for it with his life, sadly he had to bring other lives with him...

      @Yvory6@Yvory62 ай бұрын
    • It came down to a choice between money and safety, and we know which choice was made here.

      @BingBangBye@BingBangBye2 ай бұрын
  • What a strange question: "could OceanGate have done a better job in ensuring their customer's safety?" Well, being as their customers were squished into a fine paste, I would say the answer is "yes, they could have done a better job."

    @georgeford6056@georgeford605610 ай бұрын
    • Explain how mr scientist...

      @kygodragon4782@kygodragon478210 ай бұрын
    • @@kygodragon4782 Don't use carbon fiber that shatters under stress. Get third party certifications of the vessel. Don't hire a bunch of diversity hires and brag about not wanting White men as engineers. That would be a good start.

      @thestig007@thestig00710 ай бұрын
    • @@kygodragon4782 How about simply listening to EVERYONE in the submersible filed that told them the whole idea was flawed and should be redesigned from the ground up.

      @jamieayres8030@jamieayres803010 ай бұрын
    • ​@kygodragon4782 Carbon fiber does not have the structural integrity to withstand the 5000+ lbs of pressure present at that diving depth. Scientific enough for you, Mr. Sarcasm?

      @ghostlygent@ghostlygent10 ай бұрын
    • @@ghostlygent No, there was litearrly no science in your comment... Or do you think because you typed "lbs" you are smart? Didn't work kid.

      @kygodragon4782@kygodragon478210 ай бұрын
  • I'm a Submarine veteran. I had to graduate submarine school after boot camp. Sub school is a weeding-out process where I and the others in my class were subjected to different types of stressful scenarios to see if we were capable of responding to emergency situations and claustrophobic environments. Our class began with 30 I believe and graduated about half I was one but I could/would not do it today as an old man. Navy submarines do not can not operate in the depths that submersibles do which is more dangerous. My point is that you need training and I just do not think it is suitable for tourism if someone has a health or mental breakdown could be serious

    @user-wb9vz3dt5y@user-wb9vz3dt5y10 ай бұрын
    • Thank you! Excellent response!😊

      @brianreber8842@brianreber884210 ай бұрын
    • Interesting deduction but know one really knows what happen but your big mouth 2 cents is about average... Your future enjoy it.... THREADS

      @dragonflydreamer7658@dragonflydreamer765810 ай бұрын
    • I wanted to go on subs when I joined the Navy but I washed out because I found out I was claustrophobic AF.

      @Ken_Scaletta@Ken_Scaletta10 ай бұрын
    • @@dragonflydreamer7658 Brother are you ewer full of shit. You obviously have never been on the broken end of a bottle.

      @mathewmolk2089@mathewmolk208910 ай бұрын
    • It's like taking 4 random people off the street and asking them to crew a mission to space.

      @patrickshaffer7051@patrickshaffer705110 ай бұрын
  • They weren't "shedding new light on the tragic Titanic story". They were Titanic tourists, plain and simple.

    @davidstratton6374@davidstratton63743 ай бұрын
    • and continuously referring to them as "the crew" doesn't change that. Rush was the captain and crew. The other 4 were passengers.

      @mikeprevost8650@mikeprevost86502 ай бұрын
    • Titanic was sunk. It was a "Berg" just not an "ice-berg". And the federal reserve happened the year later. Oceangate [think pizzagate, watergate] name sounds like they were trying to prove there was a conspiracy involved with Titanic and the iceberg narrative. Same people who control Hollywood who brought you Titanic, are the same people who owned the papers back when.

      @fgarrison2910@fgarrison291018 күн бұрын
  • The Titanic should be left alone.

    @saxman7131@saxman71316 ай бұрын
    • Agreed

      @Ng110..@Ng110..Ай бұрын
    • I agree 100%

      @sillarose5545@sillarose5545Ай бұрын
    • It really should like theirs nothing left their for people to see it’s rusting away and plus i find it disrespectful that they go down their cause that’s literally peoples graves leave them be 👎🏾

      @_invinciScribe_24@_invinciScribe_248 күн бұрын
    • Go watch d movie and let it be 😢

      @murrayent1able@murrayent1able6 күн бұрын
  • Our government needs to search for our kidnapped children as much as they do for adults that took this risk. It's maddening.

    @sf9145@sf914510 ай бұрын
    • This

      @therealdeal3672@therealdeal367210 ай бұрын
    • Our government needs to do just about everything they're not doing, and stop doing most of the things they are doing 😒

      @richardparker3273@richardparker327310 ай бұрын
    • @@richardparker3273 very good job at specificity! Hahaha 🤣 Care to actually make a point?

      @therealdeal3672@therealdeal367210 ай бұрын
    • I mean, that isn’t really the same thing. If you look at searches of woods and stuff for missing people, they tend to be as relatively through

      @nevermore7285@nevermore728510 ай бұрын
    • Amen

      @adtrent@adtrent9 ай бұрын
  • Search and rescue expenses should not have been paid from taxes. Those who were financing the mission should be held financially accountable for this search and rescue operation.

    @bluefluke7585@bluefluke75859 ай бұрын
    • The ones who financed it were inside of it.

      @user-dp5cd8kg7p@user-dp5cd8kg7p2 ай бұрын
    • The SAR activities especially the different agencies and private entities got good experience from this. Should there be a need for a submarine from our Navy or Canada or anyone else to be rescued, these resources are better equiped to work together to potentially save a crew. This effort should be treated as a learning experience just as practice SAR exercises are. Also hopefully others in trouble on or under the seas should know to get help as soon as possible. It wasn't a complete loss of taxpayer money. A lot of the money spent would have been spent anyway like salaries and much of the fuel. Cost estimates really should show expenses over normal day to day operating costs. Not having the submersible tested by anyone else was criminal. Especially things that have never been attempted before should be undertaken with caution not arrogance. The submersible had dove deep before and survived intact, but the effects on the integrity of the pressure hull of multiple dives most likely contributed to 5 senseless deaths.

      @TerryKeever@TerryKeeverАй бұрын
    • ​@@TerryKeeverI'm with you 100% on the costs being incurred whether this happened or not. All of the Navy, all of the Coast Guard, and many of the other resources were things that would have been being used during that time whether this incident occurred or not. The cost in the context in which the video seems to imply is actually for any additional equipment like the commercial robot submarine that was brought in.

      @mikeslater6246@mikeslater6246Ай бұрын
    • ABSOLUTELY, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!! Tax paying suckers like you and I get into a car accident that's no fault of ours and even with medical coverage the ridiculous bills for everything under the sun start flowing in, ambulance, tow trucks ect ect, this dick's estate should be responsible for every last penny of this response, no doubt!!!

      @JoeBilello1969@JoeBilello1969Ай бұрын
    • 500 people drowned in the Mediterranean at the same time the USA and Canada were throwing millions towards looking for something that had already been destroyed. Two countries decided not to go look for them because they didn't believe there was a problem. (It was a boat full of refugees that no one wanted)

      @koriw1701@koriw17016 күн бұрын
  • The 19 yr old being aboard and trusting the adults with his safety and life was what really broke my heart. My son is a year or two older than him, and I could see he was an innocent and a sweetheart, like my son. It makes me hug my son a lot more. This was so unfair to him, with so much life that should have been still left for him to live. The one guy said the thing was making crackling noises when he had been on it. Just scary. Lots of broken rules for safety. This was so wrong and terrible. I wish they would have stopped this guy before he was able to take people with him. It's one thing to risk your own life, but not the lives of others. ❤ 🙏

    @tommybutler2454@tommybutler24545 ай бұрын
    • hes an adult as well . its sad he died though .

      @VinhTran-lu6gm@VinhTran-lu6gm3 ай бұрын
    • 19 is adult, just ask the military.

      @Dora_is_my_cat@Dora_is_my_catАй бұрын
    • He didn't want to go

      @kimbradley9595@kimbradley95957 күн бұрын
  • As an engineer who has used many different sorts of plain and composite materials for all sorts of structures, I can't get my head around the choice of a fibre composite for a sub hull. The point about a fibre-reinforced composite such as glass or carbon strands, is that it adds tensile strength to the plastic matrix. Fibres resist it when you pull them in tension. I've used them in silos and pressure vessels where the pressure inside is elevated - for which they are great. But when you push the ends of a fibre together, it just collapses in a loop. In an externally- pressured vessel, the structure is purely in compression so the fibres are doing nothing, the plastic matrix is carrying all the compression. This is the basic theory of use of reinforced concrete - the steel fibres carry any tension, but the concrete takes the load in compression. So I can't see what benefit the presence of fibres has at all - they are at best passengers, or at worst could help to weaken the plastic, encouraging the propagation of cracks through the matrix as the compressive force cycles. It would surely be better (stronger and more stable) to just make it out of unreinforced cast plastic resin, preferably made in a single cast to minimise discontinuities in the structure. Was this really as stupid as it sounds? Is it the schoolboy error it seems to me? Or am I missing something here?

    @sheelaghbradley942@sheelaghbradley9423 ай бұрын
    • Good summary. Stupid - yes CEO Hubris - yes

      @TheBkmillerjr@TheBkmillerjr2 ай бұрын
    • James Cameron gave a good explanation of the difference between the internal pressure differential between and aircraft fuselage at typical cruising altitude, and the external one on a submersible's hull at deep ocean depths, and made the same point as to why carbon fibre was totally unsuited for the hull material.

      @mikeprevost8650@mikeprevost86502 ай бұрын
    • I’m no engineer, but just LOOKING at photos of the Titan, I can see how badly it’s put together. The joins don’t sit flush - see for example towards the front of the craft, where there almost appears to be a crack (might just be the lighting). Claustrophobia aside, there is NO WAY I would go in there. And if it’s true they bought the material from Boeing, who considered it sub-standard for use on an aircraft, well, enough said.

      @heidifromoz215@heidifromoz215Ай бұрын
    • but fibre sounds cool and strong you wouldnt understand you arent an explorer like me! now bon voyage to the titanic!

      @MultiMMariOO@MultiMMariOO13 күн бұрын
    • As well as too many dissimilar materials expanding/contracting at different rates at extreme pressures over and over.

      @kgm2182@kgm21828 күн бұрын
  • As a former U.S. Navy submariner, I can confirm that it didn't matter if the carbon fiber used was brand new and perfect or old and falling apart. It should not have been used to make a submersible craft going down that deep in the ocean. Kind of like putting rubberbands around a wheel of car instead of a tire. Also, the U.S. Navy does not use game controllers for anything on a ship. At least not on the Ohio class submarine I made 4 patrols on.

    @rodneyking4183@rodneyking418310 ай бұрын
    • Thank you for your service 🙏

      @AnneMarieBibby1966@AnneMarieBibby196610 ай бұрын
    • What is your professional opinion of the actual shape of Titan? Could that have also played a part in the implosion?

      @Pappa.D@Pappa.D10 ай бұрын
    • expired carbon fiber is news reporting fodder. Of course it's meaningless but gee whiz it sounds so sinister. "He used expired carbon fiber ! ! OMG, how negligent ! ! " lmao.

      @buckmurdock2500@buckmurdock250010 ай бұрын
    • BOOMER CLASS

      @rsears78@rsears7810 ай бұрын
    • The have no expertise or relevant education and training. But my common sense tells me that carbon fibre isn't strong enough because if a large truck drives over the carbon fibre hull of a boat it will break. Knowing 1 litre of water weight 1 kilo that isn't a good material to be under that weight of water. I don't think he really cared, he wanted to be famous and rich. He's now famous unfortunately as a person who ended the life of 4 people

      @WooWoo-co4jf@WooWoo-co4jf10 ай бұрын
  • Whatever happened to David Lockridge before I hope he is able to secure the highest paid job in his field. The guy had enough integrity and guts to at least try prevent the tragedy. Huge respect to him

    @cherrytomato6139@cherrytomato613910 ай бұрын
    • Also that other father and son who decided not to go because they didn't think it was safe enough.

      @raymeus@raymeus10 ай бұрын
    • @@BobbyT-yj1cw If he had indeed called every "paying customer" to warn or otherwise dissuade them from going on any expedition with Oceangate, he would've been opening himself up to a serious lible case by Oceangate! Business is business and especially when customers are paying "a quarter mil a seat", you can bet the legal threats and lawyers would've been implemented had anyone interfered with any customers. As far as the argument about, "Everyone knew the risks" that's not necessarily true. There have been more people shot into space than there has been sent to depths anywhere approaching the Titanic wreck site. This whole, "extreme thrill seekers/danger explorers" market niche is a cottage industry and only relatively new. There are no written rules and playbooks that exist as a result of decades of experience learned via many trips to the oceans greatest depths while hauling multitudes of people down there. The mention of Boeing selling that carbon fiber to Oceangate is a new discovery to me. I can see the lawyers lining up now. They would be one of the targets in an ambulance chasers sights that are looking for the largest and deepest pockets to attempt to dig in after this catastrophe...

      @jimmcfarland269@jimmcfarland26910 ай бұрын
    • @@BobbyT-yj1cw I heard there were 91 "dives" but the majority were aborted - one after just 40 feet. So there would be an extensive passenger list for a fired employee to go rogue and try to privately contact.

      @peterdarr383@peterdarr38310 ай бұрын
    • Being a whistle-blower is a frightening and challenging role. Corporations and organizations do an unrelenting job of disparaging anyone who speaks out or asks questions about irregularities. The goal is not malicious. It is to improve outcomes and safety. Lockridge was doing that. Anyone who can verify accounts refuses to speak up because they are afraid for their jobs. Having spoken up about issues, I have been treated respectfully in two instances, and adjustments were made. I have also been targeted and it is disheartening.

      @cherylburkhead1334@cherylburkhead133410 ай бұрын
    • @@cherylburkhead1334 I think Rush threatened to destroy this man reputation - how stuck up was that? The sad irony is that Rush, who said he was insulted when told he was risking lives, actually ending up taking 4 lives with his own. Plus Rush was a liar according to this one man who said Rush lied about blaming the weather when the submersible had issues. The more I learn, the more I find it hard to believe that those poor passengers were aware of the actual risks.

      @irene_f.@irene_f.10 ай бұрын
  • Stockton Rush was the Millenial version of Dr John Hammond, in "Jurrasic Park". It's just too bad that no one like Jeff Goldblum was around to tell HIM beforehand, "Your scientists were so preoccupied with wondering whether or not they COULD, they didn't stop to think about whether or not they SHOULD."

    @lindadegraaf9297@lindadegraaf92973 ай бұрын
    • Amen ❤

      @stephaniemurria5534@stephaniemurria5534Ай бұрын
  • Ive worked on LA class and Ohio class submarines for twenty years. When i heard about the accident i knew how deep they were but had no idea about the actual vessel they were diving in. When i looked it up I couldn't believe that that vessel had ever been that deep before and that it is reused for consecutive dives. Anyone with the knowledge of this topic will tell you this was almost guaranteed to happen.

    @teamperry757@teamperry7572 ай бұрын
  • The US navy didn't keep the sound anomaly a secret at all. They passed the information on to the coast guard who were responding to the call for help. Just because they didn't declare it to the press doesn't mean they were hiding it or keeping it a secret. The coast guard HAD to presume the submersible was missing even with that information because the anomaly heard/detected is only interpretive and could have been anything else as well. We only know it was an implosion 100% sure now because we found the debris. Underwater sounds/signals are hard enough to interpret and we do the same on land - if you hear a loud bang in the next room, you can't just presume someone got shot and there's no point checking.

    @GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend10 ай бұрын
    • There is no coincidences anymore with timing of information release.

      @yourmomsdildo3938@yourmomsdildo393810 ай бұрын
    • IIRC they did say, early on, that they'd heard noises but couldn't be certain whether they were from Titan, or Titanic.

      @derekday4832@derekday483210 ай бұрын
    • They kept some of the circumstances of it a secret. A whole lot of operational security issues with the Navy's sonar capabilities, which I can assure you from personal experience, and beyond. your wildest dreams.

      @dougww1ectebow@dougww1ectebow10 ай бұрын
    • @@yourmomsdildo3938its less of a coincidence that such a comment would be posted by a fw like you

      @stephenhathaway269@stephenhathaway26910 ай бұрын
    • I'm sure you will find out, in future, that in private they would have already told the families that they detected an implosion, or at least that they were all certainly dead. They wouldn't release that to the press until the search has concluded, for....... many reasons, that I'm sure you can imagine yourself.

      @unexpecteditem7919@unexpecteditem79199 ай бұрын
  • As someone who has broken a total of two carbon fiber mountain bike frames, believe me when I say that old carbon fiber is MUCH weaker than new carbon fiber.. One bike frame that was made in 2006 broke completely in half at the top tube and down tube ( the two tubes that would be between your legs if you were straddling the bike) causing a horrible crash in 2015. The second frame broke at the headset/toptube/downtube junction and just cracked. That carbon frame was only 6 years old. My current bike has a steel frame and I'll be keeping it that way. Whoever ok'ed old materials to be used 100% had zero knowledge of carbon fiber and hopefully will be held accountable

    @supafrancis@supafrancis10 ай бұрын
    • Carbon fiber is brittle and hate vibration/shock. the stronger the material the more brittle. fellow bike racers I knew in the early 90s told me the frame transmitted that shock all the way through to them carbon fiber was a MAJOR mistake

      @larsmoen5657@larsmoen565710 ай бұрын
    • ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

      @janbonfiglio1156@janbonfiglio115610 ай бұрын
    • I work in an arena...we have a big pile of broken carbon fibre hockey sticks in the back. They break all the time.

      @projektkobra2247@projektkobra224710 ай бұрын
    • Meanwhile, I'm still tearing it up on my steel alloy road bike that was once my dad's when he was in high school... in the 70s. (And it's comfy and not rough like a carbon fiber frame is.)

      @cozymonk@cozymonk10 ай бұрын
    • It seems as if the person who gave the OK was on board the submersible and holding on to his game controller; therefore he won't be held accountable.

      @fredcarr3550@fredcarr355010 ай бұрын
  • You couldn't have paid me a million dollars to get into that thing and bolt me in from the outside. Are you nuts?😮

    @jerardnorgren3411@jerardnorgren34113 ай бұрын
    • Nobody is paying you tho lol

      @DerexLuvsJenkins@DerexLuvsJenkins2 ай бұрын
    • @@DerexLuvsJenkins Which makes it even more insane.

      @jerardnorgren3411@jerardnorgren3411Ай бұрын
    • @@jerardnorgren3411 true

      @DerexLuvsJenkins@DerexLuvsJenkinsАй бұрын
    • @@DerexLuvsJenkins To me that would be kinda be like being buried alive. I wonder what they were thinking when that first crack / leak / or noise was heard? For their sake I hope they at least got to see the Titanic in the distance. That's a sacred buriel ground and nobody really should be messing with that.

      @jerardnorgren3411@jerardnorgren3411Ай бұрын
    • @@jerardnorgren3411 they didn’t see the titanic, they were only 10,000 feet down, when it ran out of power and it was pitch black they were still 2000 feet above it before they imploded, and other other words, they didn’t get to see anything lol

      @DerexLuvsJenkins@DerexLuvsJenkinsАй бұрын
  • Someone got ahold of the transcript from the mother ship. They knew they were going to implode if they did not ascend fast enough, and it wasn’t. Likely due to the owners negligence it wasn’t ascending at the rate that it should. The alarm meant to signal that the pressure was causing catastrophic damage to the submarine was blaring for 30 minutes ish until it finally imploded. Until this was revealed I was relieved to hear that they did not suffer from such fear as it had happened instantaneously. It hurts my heart now knowing that they knew what was happening, and they knew they would lose their lives. I don’t particularly feel back for Rush, but I feel especially empathetic to the boy that was on board.

    @cocoedelie5054@cocoedelie50543 ай бұрын
    • And I'm sure you did your due diligence and fact checked the details before regurgitating this information right? Right.... People are so worried about contributing something even if it's complete nonsense. Truth is Jack was still bitter about Rose letting him sink from that large piece of debris that was clearly large enough for 2 people and has vowed revenge on anyone getting near the Titanic.

      @richardrebecchi7351@richardrebecchi7351Ай бұрын
  • I’m still in disbelief that something like this can happen in this day and age. Oceangate is criminally negligent for the death of 5 people for failing to prove to regulatory authorities that their vessel was safe to operate in an extreme environment. Firing someone for reaching out to OSHA should have been a HUGE red flag!

    @hcac36@hcac369 ай бұрын
    • what do you mean with: this day and age? that is so arrogant. People now are as unaware as they have always been.

      @eduardscharis@eduardscharis9 ай бұрын
    • at least two reasons, corporate greed and people believing they know more than experts.

      @jss27560@jss275609 ай бұрын
    • Ocean Gate's ceo was killed. So who do you go after.

      @bananka4905@bananka49059 ай бұрын
    • ​​​@@bananka4905the engineers who said the vessel was safe to operate for a start. Just because Rush died, doesn't mean there aren't others responsible.

      @Smeggy87@Smeggy879 ай бұрын
    • ​@@eduardscharisI think he means in modern life it's unbelievable that people who are well educated are stupid enough to do things like ignoring industry safety standards in an extremely hazardous environment. He's not being arrogant....

      @Smeggy87@Smeggy879 ай бұрын
  • I have been down to the Titanic wreck, and have been to the top of Everest many times. I have travelled to different countries, wandered down the streets and all thanks to KZhead, and Google earth.

    @lew832@lew8329 ай бұрын
    • Amen.❤

      @sheilagravely5621@sheilagravely5621Ай бұрын
    • Exactly and one probably sees more of the titanic in the documentary or footage instead of out of a small submersible window. They must not have been claustrophobic.

      @earnold1896@earnold189617 күн бұрын
    • Corporate manslaughter!

      @shod1112@shod111216 күн бұрын
  • These guys are why I have started keeping an eye out for an opportunity to tell someone not to Rush into something.

    @ratgirl34@ratgirl345 ай бұрын
  • "OceanGate" sounds like the original Watergate and not a company I would choose with a dangerous Ocean activity.

    @andyreidsmustache9247@andyreidsmustache924712 күн бұрын
  • What is so ironic is that in 1898, English author Morgan Robertson wrote a book called "Futility." It was about a huge "unsinkable" Atlantic liner named the TITAN. In the book, the Titan strikes an iceberg on a cold April night and sinks with a large loss of life. Its now April 1912. The "unsinkable" White Star liner "Titanic" puts to sea, strikes an iceberg and sinks with a large loss of life. Now a submersible named "Titan" is lost descending to the Titanic. This almost sounds like a Twilight Zone episode. I fully agree that tourist travel to the Titanic should be prohibited! It is a grave site, NOT a tourist attraction.

    @user-ns1cf6lh8m@user-ns1cf6lh8m10 ай бұрын
    • I concur fully with your last statement- it is a mass grave. The fact that this site would be a 'tourist destination' for wealthy, low-IQ individuals is morbid, but the outcome was perfectly just, poetically.

      @odochartaighofodonegal2351@odochartaighofodonegal235110 ай бұрын
    • This is just so wild, and the titanic tragedy story seems to go on and on.

      @OneaeBlack@OneaeBlack10 ай бұрын
    • Since when are cemeteries not supposed to be visited? Ever been to a cemetery yourself or even heard of Arlington National Cemetery?

      @DigiLab360@DigiLab36010 ай бұрын
    • Utter stupidity ! I bet you believe in Nostradamus and astrology as well

      @gowdsake7103@gowdsake710310 ай бұрын
    • ​@@DigiLab360It's not a cemetery where people can pay their respects. It's the site of the aftermath of a significant tragedy, not a place for lookey-loos to gape and gawk at in ghoulish curiosity.

      @WWZenaDo@WWZenaDo10 ай бұрын
  • The fact that they knew they were cutting corners, is enough to say that they definitely could have done better.

    @jaytee3060@jaytee306010 ай бұрын
    • More than just that It's a literal crime scene at this point

      @dr9gonkid20@dr9gonkid209 ай бұрын
    • Unfortunately, it's always been normal to cut corners. Generally takes two crashes to correct the deficits.

      @nabirasch5169@nabirasch51698 ай бұрын
    • Imagine if a car company or an airline or any tourist company started "cutting corners" with safety protocol. This spoiled rich guy actually fired then sued his own safety inspector because the inspector said it was untested and therefore could implode. We need to find that judge that heard that case, and put them in jail too. That's literally criminal abuse of the legal system resulting in loss of life.

      @Somethinghumble@Somethinghumble3 ай бұрын
  • In reading a number of articles about such collapses, the mechanism is ultra-violent and ultra-fast. Pressures compare with those in a diesel engine ( CR:19 to 1) and whatever hydrocarbons in the chamber reach the combustion point. No bodies left. But it is faster than the initial pain can be sent to the brain.

    @bobhoye5951@bobhoye59516 ай бұрын
  • The attachment of the different materials may be one thing. But I believe the main issue was the pressures that are at those depths require a sphere for the crew to be in, not a cigar shaped craft. Spheres have proven to be the most strong at depths (windowed portholes to see out, become the weak points). H-D Cameras would be the best option with no portholes. Is there no F.A.A. like program for vessels that travel on and under water? How did they get insured without being tested and Certified by an outside company?

    @pault2148@pault214813 күн бұрын
  • Apparently, the most relevant question is: could Ocean Gate have done a worse job than it already did?

    @Imustfly@Imustfly10 ай бұрын
    • Could have bobbed back to the surface and then violently tumbled around as a small white tube in the foamy North Atlantic for several days with no food, water or toilet until the people eventually suffocated while staring out the window at the sky. If you're going to die in an Oceangate sub, abrupt decompression early in the journey isn't the absolute worst.

      @notzathros@notzathros10 ай бұрын
    • WDYM? They did a good job. A good job of what not to do.

      @blackwater7183@blackwater718310 ай бұрын
    • If they had used cardboard soaked in linseed oil instead of carbon fibre.

      @Alef.93@Alef.9310 ай бұрын
    • ​@@notzathrosThey could have escaped at the surface all they'd need would be a pocket knife.

      @PapaTanGh0stNI9htM4R3S0nMaInSt@PapaTanGh0stNI9htM4R3S0nMaInSt10 ай бұрын
    • @@Alef.93 No linseed oil and ATF in a 50-50 mix, old timers used that on old lapstrake boats, superb water deflection

      @455buick6@455buick610 ай бұрын
  • I spent way more than I could afford at the time I bought all my scuba gear. Getting regular services on all equipment and paying attention to detail ensures equipment never fails and that you always have a backup if it does. The last thing any diver needs is a critical gear failure at depth. You can never spend enough on any life support system for a hostile environment. Titans fate was just a matter of time very sadly😔

    @neville4451@neville445110 ай бұрын
    • Buying old carbon fiber is a red flag. I'm sure the customers didn't know, but overtime that thing shreds like old cardboard under impacts or pressures.

      @ICYDRAGONS@ICYDRAGONS9 ай бұрын
    • "You can never spend enough on any life support system for a hostile environment." - funny you say that, because Oceangate CEO was saying exact opposite. He said something along the lines "after a certain point any money spent on safety is wasted"

      @Shajirr_@Shajirr_9 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Shajirr_Darwinism, the definition

      @borregoayudando1481@borregoayudando14819 ай бұрын
    • @@Shajirr_ yeah mate..how do you even get your head around the CEO's attitude? It's almost like he had a death wish. I can't help but wonder if he had secret mental health issues. Anyway if they died before implosion they would've slipped into unconsciousness and died peacefully. Implosion is so instantaneous to even realise what's happened🤔 🇦🇺🙋‍♂️🇦🇺

      @neville4451@neville44519 ай бұрын
    • @@neville4451 Nah, he was just one of those "you can't tell me what to do" people. Those who think the government should not interfere with what private companies are doing and preferably not tax them, stuff like that. He was just living his dream, making stuff as cheaply as possible with as little regards to safety as possible.

      @Shajirr_@Shajirr_9 ай бұрын
  • just like the space shuttle challenger fired the guys that said it will fail ! complete negligence!!

    @lostinspace2246@lostinspace22463 ай бұрын
  • ❤Ok Navy Lessons Learned. NEVER DEPLOY ANY CRAFT in the ocean without a BEACON installed in it and tested. My heart goes out to the families of lives lost. May they be with God resting in Peace.

    @dianeberania2024@dianeberania2024Ай бұрын
  • 21 minutes of bombastic retelling of what we already knew before getting to 'What the US Navy knew', which amounted to 5 more minutes of telling us nothing in particular.

    @peatbogg3688@peatbogg36889 ай бұрын
  • I am a Navy veteran and a commercial diver, and have spent the majority of my younger working years on the docks. I will tell you, trying to profit off a wreck that is also a gravesite breaks about every traditional law of the sea. I feel James Cameron did honor to the wreck, but these guys were plundering the wreck in a repetitive & disrespectful way and were punished for their greed. You do not ever push that luck out there. RIP.

    @jackmazza5742@jackmazza574210 ай бұрын
    • You should see the videos of WWII sunken vessels being cut up and recovered because the metal is extremely valuable because metals not under hundreds of feet of water in 1945 have become irradiated following the nuclear bomb explosions done in the atmosphere. Human remains recovered along with the metal are just thrown in the local landfill.

      @AbbyNormL@AbbyNormL10 ай бұрын
    • ​@@AbbyNormL Let me guess, those videos start popping up when you watch geniuses talk about wifi cancer and powerline death rays. Sounds super legit. Radiation bad. Let's go spend a billion dollars fishing up salty scrap metal. Its half-life is infinity, man. Me so smart.

      @amarissimus29@amarissimus2910 ай бұрын
    • @@amarissimus29 Maybe get your facts straight before replying like a snarky a-hole because she's mostly right. The part where she's wrong is that the steel isn't radiated because it was smelted before the atomic era and not because the water protects it, so there's little to no radiological impurities in the steel. It's very valuable for ultra sensitive scientific and medical equipment because any modern made steel emits much more radiation. Or are you arguing that it isn't happening? Because China just got caught illegally chopping the HMS Prince of Wales and the HMS Repulse. Part of the reason they got caught is because anything non-metallic was being thrown into a local Malaysian landfill.

      @albinoman13bt@albinoman13bt10 ай бұрын
    • Well said.

      @NETBotic@NETBotic10 ай бұрын
    • Veterans fight for the freedom of these people to do just that. How about honoring that.

      @sojourner2013@sojourner201310 ай бұрын
  • Sad that the taxpayers have to flip the recovery bill for negligent company without insurance

    @kellyklocke8183@kellyklocke81833 ай бұрын
  • What really saddens me most, is in an effort for "conservation", Stockton took a huge amount of carbon fiber into the ocean and exploded it for all the marine life to now live with.

    @CFLsurfr@CFLsurfr6 ай бұрын
  • The three tourists could have rationalized their internal fear by telling themselves repeatedly that the owner / designer would not be on board unless the submersible was completely safe.

    @bobbyricigliano2799@bobbyricigliano279910 ай бұрын
    • Tourist prefer Cancun

      @ratchetwise440@ratchetwise44010 ай бұрын
    • Absolutely

      @hasnainy@hasnainy9 ай бұрын
    • When u play with double edge sword u will eventually get cut

      @michelerorabaugh8134@michelerorabaugh81349 ай бұрын
    • Wow, I’ve considered a lot of hypothetical scenarios since this drama began but not this POV yet…I agree whole heartedly. Sooooo easy to rationalize in that situation…seems almost predatory now that i think of it that way. Like Rush maybe fetishized “dying for his creation “ like so many before him.

      @Shroomie.shawtie@Shroomie.shawtie9 ай бұрын
    • familiarity breeds contempt. 'Nothing will go wrong I've done this loads of times before' said the CEO

      @bigoldgrizzly@bigoldgrizzly9 ай бұрын
  • Sounds like the CEO had plenty of warnings and due to arrogance suffered the consequences. A similar fate to the Titanic. The unfortunate issue is he took four other souls with him.

    @honnorjustice@honnorjustice10 ай бұрын
    • Maybe he was afraid of old age and subconsciously was looking for a quick death. People are very illogical and emotional creatures and make mistakes. That's why we have engineering reviews and work as teams. Putting all faith in one man is risky. But even NASA crashed TWO Shuttles for the pretty much the same reason - they thought the risk was OK and underestimated it.

      @weekendwarrior3420@weekendwarrior342010 ай бұрын
    • He joined the souls of the titanic because of the same reason Humans never learn

      @xemirov9298@xemirov929810 ай бұрын
    • Sad the the CEO F'd around and the passengers had to do the finding out.

      @fractuss@fractuss10 ай бұрын
    • Exactly what james cameron said

      @pauliedi6573@pauliedi657310 ай бұрын
    • It was kept a secret

      @pauliedi6573@pauliedi657310 ай бұрын
  • If they we're already dead, what was making the knocking sound at regular intervals?

    @swingping@swingping6 ай бұрын
    • My exact question too???

      @scottghost1@scottghost13 ай бұрын
    • Sponge bob

      @chrisbrown7423@chrisbrown7423Ай бұрын
  • I think a lot of people are just misinformed when it comes to making a point about the submarine having been operated by a repurposed console controller. Those controllers are reliable and created for precision and comfort. That, as elaborated on in this video, is absolutely not the reason why this accident occurred. Instead, it was the CEO's negligence.

    @manslaughter3180@manslaughter31807 ай бұрын
  • The Ocean gate company should have to pay for the recovery. Millions of dollars paid by we the people, yet "we" would never be able to take a trip like that. Need regulation obviously.

    @kimmorris764@kimmorris76410 ай бұрын
    • @@blantech8978 bro the Perdue that makes opioids is not the same Perdue that makes chickens lmao. Next you’re gonna say they all went to Perdue university 😂

      @navigatewithme4829@navigatewithme482910 ай бұрын
    • @@blantech8978 Perdu means lost in French.

      @jguenther3049@jguenther304910 ай бұрын
    • @@blantech8978Entirely different companies

      @yosemitesam9576@yosemitesam957610 ай бұрын
    • Ummm from who ?

      @gowdsake7103@gowdsake710310 ай бұрын
    • Totally agree!

      @steveowens913@steveowens91310 ай бұрын
  • What's mind-blowing is not only did they use carbon fiber but the fact that it had expired and to think that Stockton thought that was good to use for his submersible! It's insanity!!!!

    @meganruchwatercolors7186@meganruchwatercolors718610 ай бұрын
    • Yeah and he was so sure of it that he put his own life at risk and behind it. Which showed just how much he believed in its safety.

      @cwatson42785@cwatson4278510 ай бұрын
    • honestly the fact that it was expired doesn’t really matter- using carbon fiber period for a deep sea dive capsule is a huge mistake

      @TheGryfonclaw@TheGryfonclaw10 ай бұрын
    • He was extremely tight for a man with money

      @kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934@kathyinwonderlandl.a.893410 ай бұрын
    • Considering carbon fiber for any part of a sub is insanity. Carbon fiber is used where there is less atmosphere, he put it under 12x the atmospheric pressure than ground level

      @hippieash2799@hippieash279910 ай бұрын
    • I’m not trying to defend Rush but he did design a submersible that made multiple dives to the titanic and other sites. This engineering worked at the beginning. The problem was Rush had the ego to believe he had engineered a vessel that many said couldn’t de done, a new generation that would expand the human reach of the deep seas. Because of this ego he refused to properly test and class this vessel. And there lies the rub.

      @cambizkhosravi@cambizkhosravi10 ай бұрын
  • I worked in the oilfields most my life. Safety is a must you just can not ignore the issue. I've seen bad things happen on drilling rigs. It sounds like ocean gate ignore Safety for profit. 😢 Makes me very sad that this happened.

    @johnreagan5852@johnreagan5852Ай бұрын
  • The initial investor from Las Vegas, who was offered a bargain price for seating, if you want to call it seating, could see all the Red flags involved with this submersible craft. His pulling out, should have alerted the eventual "explorers " of the dangers they faced. The implosion obviously occurred during descent and all the assets deployed would have been on a recovery operation rather than a rescue attempt from the outset.This video presentation was very well done.

    @malikmcclain7869@malikmcclain786918 күн бұрын
  • I think the Coast Guard made the right move. From an ethical standpoint, I would shut my mouth and keep searching until I found the debris that proves it was an implosion.

    @georgevan2606@georgevan260610 ай бұрын
    • One would think

      @gabeswitala2292@gabeswitala229210 ай бұрын
    • If nothing else, they had to locate the wreckage for their formal investigation. They may as well do it like there were survivors to rescue.

      @Ryarios@Ryarios10 ай бұрын
    • You can not automatically assume it was that stupid little sub when you first hear the noise. The report they were missing did not come until hours after the implosion so in those first hours those who heard the noise could only guess as to what it was.

      @Wildstar40@Wildstar4010 ай бұрын
    • It wasn't the CG that withheld the info, but the Navy...most likely from seafloor hydrophones that are part of the Navy's SOSUS network (Sound Surveillance System), the same system that triangulated the implosion of the USS Scorpion in '68.

      @hyliedoobius5114@hyliedoobius511410 ай бұрын
    • Absolutely...almost like a damned if you do and damned if you don't...lol

      @oliviaadan8208@oliviaadan820810 ай бұрын
  • The data that’s available shows that this type of sub is only strongest on its 1st dive, and decreases in hull integrity every dive after. In other words this sub should have had a overhaul after each dive to maintain integrity. The fact this company either knew this or ignored it all together show’s negligence. Simple concept the owner was arrogant and greedy, cost the lives of 4 people plus himself.

    @brettc1984@brettc198410 ай бұрын
    • would make the company not profitable to rebuilt it everytime after one dive, but it totally makes sense but it doesnt make dollars.

      @harristech6807@harristech68079 ай бұрын
    • Apparently Rush knew this and ordered no checks, no maintenance because he didn't want a paper trail. He knew any reports would get back to authorities and they might force him to make repairs or stop diving.

      @littlekong7685@littlekong76859 ай бұрын
    • In an another article, I learned this was the Titan's 14th dive. More negligence if that's possible in this case.

      @savemykind5877@savemykind58779 ай бұрын
    • @@savemykind5877 And the company is closed permanently. 200k a person per trip and couldn’t afford to do what’s required to maintain a sub. There’s so much shady crap that went on it’s sickening.

      @brettc1984@brettc19849 ай бұрын
    • what makes it worse is, They had the money to do it!

      @iJiimi@iJiimi9 ай бұрын
  • Controlling a periscope or an unmanned vehicle with a commercial game controller makes sense. But to make a wireless commercial game controller your main input source on a vehicle you're inside of is crazy.

    @MckWells@MckWells8 ай бұрын
  • Great collection of video!

    @AriBenDavid@AriBenDavid3 ай бұрын
  • Oceangate needs to pay for all the search and rescue. I can't believe they waited 8 hours before contacting anyone.

    @ksmith8793@ksmith879310 ай бұрын
    • With what money lol. they already done they gonna be bankrupt by end of the year. They just get the bill clsoe up shop already doing that anyways and you can't bleed a stone you won't get back 1/10 of that money from their company assets, and man with any personal liabilty died in the damn thing. Plus I am sure they got loans out who will want to help gut and auction off whats left they have to fight for. You can send them the bill but don't mean it will ever be paid sigh.

      @blantech8978@blantech897810 ай бұрын
    • They’ve stopped all operations. At best, the government might be able to squeeze some money out of selling the support vessel beyond what’s still owed on it. That would get all muddled with the wrongful death lawsuits that are sure to come anyway. I don’t think airlines are charged for S&R costs of downed aircraft either.

      @Ryarios@Ryarios10 ай бұрын
    • @@blantech8978 What ever is left will be recovered. Uncle Sam don't mess around. If it there they'll find it recover it and auction it to the highest bidder right down to the last nickel.

      @Wildstar40@Wildstar4010 ай бұрын
    • It’s consistent with their stellar ethical and safe practices.

      @Martell-XO@Martell-XO10 ай бұрын
    • @@Ryarios the support vessel, I assume you mean the Mother Ship, was leased for the short period of time when dives were feasible.

      @gailmcn@gailmcn10 ай бұрын
  • Unverified transcripts of text communication between topside and Titan indicate the rate of descent even early on was too rapid. That high descent rate may have been an indication that Titan was becoming water logged. The Titan crew may well have been doomed by the time they were about 30 minutes into their journey.

    @wtmayhew@wtmayhew10 ай бұрын
    • Water logged, or water in the back fin. If that transcript is real, it also indicates that it was tail heavy and so did not rise when ballast was dropped.

      @joanberkwitz2662@joanberkwitz266210 ай бұрын
    • @@joanberkwitz2662 Thanks for the additional information.

      @wtmayhew@wtmayhew10 ай бұрын
    • The back fin was outside the pressure hull, so it must have been designed to fill with water. I saw a video of the Titan with its tail section opened up like a vintage car hood (hinged down the middle), to expose what looked like electrical and electronic components. Perhaps the sea water planned to be in the tail shorted out the battery that was mentioned as failing in the leaked text transcript. That could explain why the sub rose less than 100 feet after the ballast and landing legs were jettisoned (the two bulges on the back of the pressure hull contained vertical thrusters powered by two batteries).

      @charlesyoung7436@charlesyoung743610 ай бұрын
    • Unfortunately it was doomed as soon as it was built, it was done that badly

      @455buick6@455buick610 ай бұрын
    • @@charlesyoung7436 Why would they design it to fill with water? Wouldn't that be unecessary weight and dangerous because of what was under it??

      @irene_f.@irene_f.10 ай бұрын
  • Here, here!!! I couldn't agree more!!

    @jasonpoteet4470@jasonpoteet4470Ай бұрын
  • All the warnings he was giving by professionals and he ignored it the man was clearly on a suicide mission and was scared to die alone so brought unsuspecting people with him to be doomed scary never kno what somebody thinking smh

    @domino8820@domino88206 ай бұрын
  • The first photo of Titan that I saw, after it had gone silent, my first, gut reaction, was "No way would I get near that, it just looks unsailable, in any way." It factually frightened me.

    @Raelven@Raelven10 ай бұрын
    • I was the same. After seeing my first photos of Titan I called it a Heath Robinson submersible. I worked with diving bells and ROVs for thirty years.

      @emmagibbs-smith2989@emmagibbs-smith298910 ай бұрын
    • Claustrophobia prohibits me from even getting into a vehicle like that, much less getting bolted in from the outside or dropping down into the ocean for a couple miles into the complete darkness. Trapped. And then there was the creaking...... No. Just no.

      @mcsmith732@mcsmith73210 ай бұрын
    • @@mcsmith732I get that. Fear of being locked in, trapped, would have prevented me from getting inside. The fact that they’re bolted in with no way to escape is enough for me.

      @mikoto7693@mikoto769310 ай бұрын
    • I actually thought I had deja vu the first time I saw it. I’m big into Titanic and around 2 years ago got really into another Titanic binge. Amidst the videos I came across, I found out a company was offering sub dives down to the Titanic. I remember watching a video with some sub somewhere on KZhead where you have to get bolted inside it and the interior is a bleak mat with little in the way of physical control. It was a manufacturing process video I think. I remember thinking it looked a little out of spec compared to others I had seen before. I remember thinking that looks incredibly bush league. When I saw this story I was like “holy shit something about this seems familiar but I’ve never heard of Titan.” Well it was familiar. It used to be called Cyclops II and I specifically remember that name. Crazy when something comes full circle. Very rarely does something you think is a death trap ever get confirmed to be a death trap

      @dblackout1107@dblackout110710 ай бұрын
  • It's amazing that anyone could think material that was not good enough to be used on planes anymore was good enough for a water vehicle that would go through even harsher conditions. None of this sounds right yet it happened.

    @SuperCosmicMutantSquid@SuperCosmicMutantSquid10 ай бұрын
    • ...and no receipt or record of the sale or transaction... something's fishy.

      @tea4223@tea422310 ай бұрын
    • Yes, I agree.

      @kamilebrahimoff3589@kamilebrahimoff358910 ай бұрын
    • considering carbon fiber in an aircraft had to withstand about 14.5 lbs per square foot to hold air IN and was rejected and then used in a vessel "built" to withstand a pressure of roughly 6000 lbs per SQUARE INCH TO HOLD WATER OUT is tantamount to murder it is no wonder the company brass acted the way they did.

      @garychase8637@garychase863710 ай бұрын
    • Your future enjoy it.... THREADS

      @dragonflydreamer7658@dragonflydreamer765810 ай бұрын
    • our future enjoy it.... THREADS

      @dragonflydreamer7658@dragonflydreamer765810 ай бұрын
  • What a way to go. Hearing the cracking in the rear...jeez.

    @douglasfoster2215@douglasfoster22156 ай бұрын
  • Seems to me they would have had a cable hooked to the sub.They would have had a way to talk to the boat by a cable running along the main cable.

    @bammersmith5993@bammersmith59938 ай бұрын
  • Stockton Rush was the maverick behind this disaster, cavalier about safety. 4 other people died because of it. Some justice that he was the 5th. 3 other were sophisticated people who didn't do their due diligence, and research this company and this submersible. The signs that this was a troubled company along with its leader were there. One of them taking his son into eternity with him. Serious failures and questionable judgment all the way around.

    @sergeanttrucker@sergeanttrucker10 ай бұрын
    • I am most baffled by Paul-Henri Nargeolet's "okayness" with the Titan. It just seems like he would have been more leery. This was his second (?) trip down in that thing..or at least his second trip down with Rush.

      @katembender@katembender9 ай бұрын
    • But they knew there was a chance of death hence why they weren’t called passengers they were called crew and had jobs to do

      @raneeshaw2129@raneeshaw21299 ай бұрын
    • No justice as Stockton Rush cannot, now, be put on trial and, ultimately, held accountable.

      @derekday4832@derekday48329 ай бұрын
    • ​@@katembenderme too.. even in his Wikipedia page it speaks of a quote he made about deep water

      @Escort201@Escort2019 ай бұрын
    • @@derekday4832 The owners of the Titanic were never held responsible. Why not? They invoked a maritime law from the late 1800s that prevents such financial losses in International waters. That maritime law still exists and can and probably will be invoked by OceanGate.

      @StephenShawCanada@StephenShawCanada9 ай бұрын
  • How ridiculous it must have been for those professional to be looking for something on the top of the ocean when it was at the bottom. Having spent 5 years in the Coast Guard, there's nothing more frustrating than it be sent on a wild "sub" chase. That rescue operation was nothing but theater.

    @elskid206@elskid20610 ай бұрын
    • a very expensive theater

      @markmilan8365@markmilan836510 ай бұрын
    • But real life training also

      @doomoo5365@doomoo536510 ай бұрын
    • @@markmilan8365 Like shooting missiles at a balloon.

      @tubee2b@tubee2b10 ай бұрын
    • Looks like the biden administration ordered that they didn't say anything for days because The media had bad stories on the administration.

      @HLZBORO738@HLZBORO73810 ай бұрын
    • @@tubee2b Now we know why China delayed our shipment of giant jet-mounted needles...

      @sprinkle61@sprinkle6110 ай бұрын
  • I missed the part where the US Navy revealed the terrifying truth Does anyone know what it was .....?

    @Keepingthefaith72@Keepingthefaith726 ай бұрын
  • Sad...😢😢😢😢😢 .but great work♠

    @ginadv5288@ginadv5288Ай бұрын
  • Russian submarines made with titanium suffered brittle fracture failure in the hull systems due to titanium's inherent strong lattice structure that tends to breakdown after repeated expansion and contraction, like that of a submarine diving and surfacing during normal operations. This was known in the early 1990's. Carbon fiber is substantially stronger laterally and therefore far more inflexible. It is the worst material you could ever use in the deep ocean and probably in the for any ship's hull period. It is meant for static pressure not dynamic.

    @ElonTrump19@ElonTrump1910 ай бұрын
    • I don't think carbon fibre is "meant" for pressure at all. It is very strong in tension but has no compressive strength at all. Because of its high tensile strength and low elasticity it tends to fail when subjected to side impact loads in a composite. There is no way I would use it in the shell of a vessel subjected to high external pressure. One might as well use sheep's wool fibres to hold the epoxy resin in place while it sets, literally.

      @johnswimcat@johnswimcat9 ай бұрын
    • ​@@johnswimcatso the resin the CF was suspended in while ship was whole cracked and the CF folded up like it was a tee in a vacuum storage bag

      @borregoayudando1481@borregoayudando14819 ай бұрын
  • Having had the unpleasant task (being a Coast Guard Chief Petty Officer) of interacting with family of deceased individuals) the balance between communicating reality with expressing compassion is not an easy task. It was known earlier that it was likely hopeless, but to suddenly extinguish the loved one's hope would have been a cruelty. They needed a little time to process the probability.

    @roybarger4179@roybarger417910 ай бұрын
    • I WOULD HAVE TOLD LOVED ONES THE TITAN WENT “ POP GOES THE WEASEL “

      @xavierminchello8431@xavierminchello843110 ай бұрын
    • @@xavierminchello8431 Immature comment. You must be very young and haven`t experienced death yet.

      @sparsh415@sparsh41510 ай бұрын
    • @@xavierminchello8431People like you need the tree giving you air to be chopped down.

      @Justsomebodyelse235@Justsomebodyelse23510 ай бұрын
    • I think it is more cruel to drag out the possibilities than to define what actually happened. At least family members would have been spared the agony of imagining what their loved ones may have been experiencing down there. The drama was excruciating!

      @Suelynngrr@Suelynngrr10 ай бұрын
    • Now that makes sense!

      @rhemmiel@rhemmiel6 ай бұрын
  • Hindsight is 20/20 as they say, but given all the concerns expressed by so many well-qualified people, to have risked lives and launched this submersible was insanely irresponsible. I suspect they all had to sign waivers releasing OceanGate from liability, but Stockton Rush's estate, and/or OceanGate should be held responsible for these deaths.

    @rebecculousrk@rebecculousrk3 ай бұрын
  • It is quite sad that they passed away in Such Devastating circumstances....

    @ashleyponiszkis8224@ashleyponiszkis82248 күн бұрын
  • After doing the research into the Titan, it was not a question of IF but when it was going to fail. I am a big Titanic fan but there was no way in hell I would have gone in that submersible.

    @DarkWorldConversations@DarkWorldConversations10 ай бұрын
    • I wouldnt go there in James Cameron's rig. In retrospect it looks just more and more insane. What a waste.

      @RipTheJackR@RipTheJackR10 ай бұрын
    • you can do it already - I have a few times ...in VR ..its as close to the REAL thing as you can get - you even have your own sub..comes with claustrophobia..and the feeling of DRED the weight of 2 miles of ocean above you- gives ...........for me - I have to be in the right headspace to even play it

      @rextrek@rextrek10 ай бұрын
    • exactly, it was a ticking Time-Bomb. waiting to go off, thats the best way of putting it.

      @Kris-bx5qj@Kris-bx5qj10 ай бұрын
    • the Titatnic Wreckage is a Grave sight, where 1,500 people purished some 100+ years ago. Respect it, and let it be.

      @Kris-bx5qj@Kris-bx5qj10 ай бұрын
    • Grave Site*

      @Kris-bx5qj@Kris-bx5qj10 ай бұрын
  • I like how you compare that 'star ship' to OceanGate--lots of similarity there! But you're wrong to call the group 'explorers'. They were expensive tourists in the hands of a sociopath and visiting a gravesite. The boy along for the ride expressed trepidation about the whole thing.

    @RideAcrossTheRiver@RideAcrossTheRiver10 ай бұрын
    • @@stacer1962 What?

      @RideAcrossTheRiver@RideAcrossTheRiver10 ай бұрын
    • Wait ah minute sociopath, I heard that Mr Rush of Ocean Gate his wife was a descendant of a person that died on the titanic. I felt spooked out when I heard that! Let me check again! Rip to those people.

      @Moouse44@Moouse449 ай бұрын
    • @@Moouse44 Sociopath--what? Also, how can a man and his wife be descended from one person?

      @RideAcrossTheRiver@RideAcrossTheRiver9 ай бұрын
    • Think he means. Stockton Bush's WIFE is a descendant.

      @ImSoCoolChyren2@ImSoCoolChyren29 ай бұрын
    • Actually, it was the boy's mother who was supposed to go with her husband, but gave her seat to her son b/c he wanted to go so badly. The story that the boy didn't want to go is just plain erroneous.

      @Kimber123@Kimber1239 ай бұрын
  • Wrong. The Navy may use game controllers for periscope servo motor, never for directional control of a vessel. Many corners were cut by the nutcase Rush.

    @duncanidaho2097@duncanidaho20972 ай бұрын
  • I’m amazed that the passengers went for it. All of them were intelligent folk.

    @oliver13809@oliver138097 ай бұрын
  • US Navy heard a noise consistent with the noise of an implosion. But the Navy could not state that the implosion sound was from the titan. That had to be verified. It could be possible that the sound came from some other source. Therefore, the search and rescue efforts continued until 1. The oxygen supply went well past the 96 hour mark with no possibility the titan passengers would still be alive or 2. The implosion sound has been verified to be the titan imploding. If the search and rescue were called off on the base of just an implosion sound, and that was not the titan, then it would have been possible that the titan surfaced but the passengers suffocated anyways because the search had been called off. The navy doesn’t guess.

    @johnnyg3166@johnnyg316610 ай бұрын
    • They're lying to us. You can't tell me they heard this sound but couldn't tell where it was coming from. What good would any listening device be if it couldn't detect where the sound came from? You can continue the search just to "cover all the bases" without telling a preposterous lie.

      @Unknown17@Unknown1710 ай бұрын
    • @@Unknown17 they heard the sound consistent with the noise of an implosion. But they can’t say yep the titan imploded because they don’t know for sure. The navy may not have been aware that there were dives on the titanic that day. So, until the titan is confirmed imploded, the search would, and should, continue.

      @johnnyg3166@johnnyg316610 ай бұрын
  • As a Naval Engineer on Columbia and Virginia Class subs, these subs made out of steal can only go 1600 feet. Ocean Gate had no business sending that joke of a vessel to the depth

    @Reallifeintheblue@Reallifeintheblue10 ай бұрын
  • sorry for the question, what is the song that they used for this video?

    @daianadaidone121@daianadaidone1217 ай бұрын
  • Thank you. I guess there's plenty of blame to share around. One small but significant point, physics laws can't be broken and definitely not ignored. Arrogance, ignorance, greed, and selfishness killed these people. An even greater tragedy is if we don't make regulations more robust to protect paying clients. Great post

    @recurvearcher6542@recurvearcher6542Ай бұрын
  • Actually, it was disclosed the sound detected by the NAVY was passed on to the unified commander of the search and rescue. It was the commander who chose to continue with the search (i.e., to err on the side of caution) until there was proof the sub had imploded.

    @pwu8194@pwu819410 ай бұрын
    • That's been bugging me. I read that it was disclosed. It makes sense to me that you'd keep searching until you had confirmation. If they did it early enough, it would make sense that they could have stopped talking about it before it became a media frenzy and just slipped through the cracks. Though there's this other narrative that it was kept secret for some reason. As far as I can tell, that was started by some nutball who read a headline and decided that Biden was trying to redirect media attention from something else by timing the announcement. Now so many people are repeating that they didn't tell anyone.

      @AiluropodaPanda@AiluropodaPanda10 ай бұрын
    • Plus the Coast Guard has a massive annual budget, but they have to use all of it so they can get more next year. They definitely wouldn't pass up a chance to spend taxpayers money.

      @strayedarticle2838@strayedarticle283810 ай бұрын
    • @@djuarakurniawan4738 True.

      @strayedarticle2838@strayedarticle283810 ай бұрын
    • ... because the sound detected by Navy system was not specific as to cause or location.

      @Kitsambler@Kitsambler10 ай бұрын
    • @@strayedarticle2838 The CG has a very small budget, and not adequate for the thousands of miles of coast and sea that they have to provide services for. one of the worst budgets in the military branches.

      @gailmcn@gailmcn10 ай бұрын
  • It probably was safer than crossing the street, if the street was made of lit dynamite with a forecast of raining hand grenades.

    @s1acr457@s1acr45710 ай бұрын
    • Hah!!! My favorite comment so far!!!

      @richardduerr9983@richardduerr998310 ай бұрын
    • 😂 I needed a laugh. I have my drink all over me. This is such a sad, unnecessary and expensive waste of time and especially human life. At 78 I would attempt Everest before going in a sub like that one. I do not expect the Navy to tell us that they heard a sound. 🇺🇸

      @sharondrury5676@sharondrury567610 ай бұрын
  • Sadly, it's all about greed and cutting corners to save a buck. The old adage "Your weapon was made by the lowest Bidder" rings true

    @user-gi9zp8di3i@user-gi9zp8di3i16 күн бұрын
  • The terrifying thing here is playing loose and free with the facts!❤😂

    @lindalaw8368@lindalaw83683 ай бұрын
  • I love our Navy and all of the brave folks involved. God Bless them all.

    @PissONUwe@PissONUwe9 ай бұрын
    • Amen.

      @kenmason6135@kenmason61352 ай бұрын
  • One aspect of this that seems to have captured less attention is the fact that those on board Titan had no way of getting out of the craft from the inside. So even if it had miraculously floated back to the surface somewhere, they would have been totally reliant on rescuers finding it and undoing the external bolts to open the nose and release them before oxygen supplies ran out. Perishing that way would arguably have been even more horrific.

    @coleuk8817@coleuk881710 ай бұрын
    • One of the bolts wasn't even secured properly, in a previous trip, it has been revealed.

      @beverleymason9038@beverleymason903810 ай бұрын
    • And there wasn’t even a beacon to help locate them in this event!

      @MrsGlynn07@MrsGlynn0710 ай бұрын
    • Imagine a fire breaking out on that thing...

      @dboozer4@dboozer410 ай бұрын
    • Big deal. People on an airplane have no way to escape either if something happens in-flight.

      @weekendwarrior3420@weekendwarrior342010 ай бұрын
    • Do you think they would tell us even now if more horrific events did in fact happen? I don't. I think the whole truth isn't really out there. Probably won't be.

      @Neelysmusic@Neelysmusic10 ай бұрын
  • Thanks!

    @brianbsayloraa7969@brianbsayloraa79698 ай бұрын
  • You don't know what you didn't know till you find out. My condolences to family and friends.

    @ronniedunaway@ronniedunaway3 ай бұрын
  • I believe it to be an error to say the submersible was lowered into water once on site. It was towed on frame to save money unlike previous trips. Likely jarring the unit for hundreds of miles and possibly weakening it.

    @lawdawgfair9611@lawdawgfair961110 ай бұрын
    • Film I saw showed it on a raft, that sank and tipped it in.

      @himoffthequakeroatbox4320@himoffthequakeroatbox43209 ай бұрын
    • Any jostling it experienced while being towed is nothing in comparison to the pressures it experienced at depth.

      @StephenShawCanada@StephenShawCanada9 ай бұрын
    • @@StephenShawCanada certainly. Compression wear and tear might be the mode of failure but vibrating will weaken just about anything over time.

      @lawdawgfair9611@lawdawgfair96119 ай бұрын
    • ​@lawdawgfair9611 yup. The vibration alone can and most certainly cause some problems.

      @daviddesousa3178@daviddesousa31789 ай бұрын
    • Good observation. Did not help !

      @linanicolia1363@linanicolia13637 ай бұрын
  • I saw a comment on another video somewhere that really summed up Stockton Rush. Though he was wealthy by layman standards, he really wasn’t wealthy enough to really pursue this type of endeavor. Hence, that’s part of the reason he was constantly cutting corners and doing everything on the cheap. He could not afford to really be in this field.

    @andrewmontgomery8428@andrewmontgomery842810 ай бұрын
    • According to the interwebs , his net worth was only 12 million, so yes , he really was engaging in a pursuit out of his price point.

      @Smedley1947@Smedley194710 ай бұрын
  • Very sad my step father was on the sub uss kamehameha i always wondered what if that happened I used to make a cable and hydrophone sensor that would drag behind a sub for picking up noises

    @Rleydic1@Rleydic15 ай бұрын
  • Wow.. the navy part in the last 5 mins

    @rockothepig@rockothepig8 ай бұрын
  • A rich man's hubris cost lives. A terrible lack of humility causes lifelong pain for so many.😔

    @armusc757@armusc75710 ай бұрын
  • Yeah the Navy may use controllers to operate some systems like periscopes etc, but they certainly dont use them as the primary method of controlling the entire ship now do they... Stockton cut so many corners on this vessel that im amazed it made any successful dives at all.. i just hope that he had enough time before the inevitable to realise his own hubris and stubbornness had brought about his own demise. My heart goes out to the other 4 onboard, but i find it hard if not impossible to feel any sympathy for Stockton himself

    @jockmchaggis6797@jockmchaggis679710 ай бұрын
    • And the the Navy’s are hardwired, not Bluetooth connected. My Bluetooth connection gives me problems connecting from my phone to my car at sea level, nevermind at 10000 ft below sea level.

      @queensapphire7717@queensapphire771710 ай бұрын
    • Exactly what occurred to me. A Periscope is not the same as the entire vessel.

      @PicoAndSepulveda@PicoAndSepulveda10 ай бұрын
    • ​@@queensapphire7717ain't that the truth

      @PicoAndSepulveda@PicoAndSepulveda10 ай бұрын
    • Yes! The use case is important, and the argument of controllers being used in other military applications isn't enough, those use cases don't appear to be related directly to lose of human life if they fail.

      @fotofillholland@fotofillholland10 ай бұрын
    • yeah. the navy does use controllers.

      @philipwilliams7947@philipwilliams794710 ай бұрын
  • Aircraft fuselages are internally pressurized putting the composite structure in tensile stress due to pressure loading. The fibers are wound in a crisscross pattern..In the case of the Titan, from what has been discussed, the fibers were wound primarily in a circumferential direction seemingly putting the fibers in a compressive loading due to pressure differential..a completely different application from that of an aircraft fuselage.

    @alanmorrison3598@alanmorrison35985 ай бұрын
  • As a person who was trained in commercial diving I can't understand why ppl think carbon fiber is some kind of indestructible material- it is very strong in comparison to it's weight and density but it's basically just souped up fiberglass.

    @ericjohnson8001@ericjohnson80012 ай бұрын
  • Certification ought to be required by law before sending humans down. It was pride that led to this tragedy. Nothing more and nothing less.

    @Arthur-oj7hv@Arthur-oj7hv10 ай бұрын
    • It’s more then pride It was money too

      @jameskashmankashman3355@jameskashmankashman335510 ай бұрын
    • Imternational waters.. no laws.

      @crowbarviking3890@crowbarviking389010 ай бұрын
    • ​@@crowbarviking3890💯

      @austinmcnamara8488@austinmcnamara848810 ай бұрын
    • I would suggest it was arrogance rather than pride. He thought he knew better than everyone else.

      @wendyash6915@wendyash691510 ай бұрын
    • @@wendyash6915 They tend to go hand in hand.

      @LadyHeathersLair@LadyHeathersLair10 ай бұрын
  • You'll notice that there is not one Navy submarine with a porthole. That is not by chance.

    @demsandlibsareswinecancer4667@demsandlibsareswinecancer466710 ай бұрын
  • They may never really know the fail point in this craft….the well under rated view port, that bowed inward under the pressure up to an inch, and had cracks appearing on its edges, the supposed out of spec/life cycle carbon fibre material, the lack of systems redundancy, the inability for fail safe recovery and communication….all played a factor in its outcome…we as humans experience the results of short cutting on a daily basis….and yet it seems acceptable until it doesn’t.

    @Lakeman3211@Lakeman32114 ай бұрын
  • Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.

    @mrb6309@mrb63099 күн бұрын
  • 1. The 3 passengers go onboard the Titan coffin by believing the words of Stockton Rush. 2. The passengers go onboard thinking that we are safe having Paul Henry with us. Paul has been there many times to see the Titanic. Me, I don't give a flying A if I'm with Captain America just to see the Titan alone I won't even go in there.

    @robertbolivarr8363@robertbolivarr836310 ай бұрын
  • It's not a "tragedy". A tragedy cannot be avoided. This incident certainly could have. Secondly, I feel sympathy only for the son, Suleman, who did not want to go but did so because of his father, to honor him on Father's Day.

    @jasonbourneistreadstone@jasonbourneistreadstone10 ай бұрын
    • He was the only one in a psychological dependance situation. His signing of the waiver is the most questionable.

      @WirrWicht@WirrWicht10 ай бұрын
    • "4 rich guys take a kid 3 miles under the ocean to his death and cost (not rich) tax payers millions" what legacy theyve left lol

      @mattball420@mattball42010 ай бұрын
    • Stockton Rush was a wealthy blowhard!

      @donaldoehl7690@donaldoehl769010 ай бұрын
    • @@user-oz7jn2kg5p According to the aunt (you can google for the link to the story) he was reluctant to go. The mother may be rationalizing her son's death, imo. The 2 accounts do not jibe.

      @jasonbourneistreadstone@jasonbourneistreadstone10 ай бұрын
    • Feel proud of yourself for announcing you don’t have sympathy for victims of this tragedy? People who did absolutely nothing to you? Bet you wouldn’t say that to their loved ones.

      @ik1437@ik143710 ай бұрын
  • i remember hearing at the time that the Navy did say they heard "something that could of been an implosion" to stop the search because the navy thinks they heard an implosion would of been a mistake

    @deathlord7918@deathlord79187 күн бұрын
  • Thank you

    @suzannebrown945@suzannebrown9453 ай бұрын
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