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if your gf didnt dump you for making her watch this, she is a keeper
hahaha
But maybe you aren't lol
Facts.
She now understands those mood swings and drinking.
She's a keeper!!
Half of Disney’s employees are lawyers, they literally could’ve gotten one to help them with courtroom scene
"Hey! Remember that time we sued a family over a Spider-Man gravestone? We need a little advicing here."
@@miguelandresforerodelgadil3059 I can't tell if this is making fun of my comment or emphasising my joke lmao
@@expandapantsii341 Emphasising. Like, for real, Disney are full assholes at this point, so they giving direct advice on writing an asshole-type character, while thinking they're doing great, would be overwhelmingly fitting.
Also, not so important actually, but the fact that a story with an asshole lawyer MC this bad, came out barely two months after the phenomenal Better Call Saul finale, makes it all the more jarring.
@@expandapantsii341 he's not making fun of you nor expanding your joke, Disney actually sued a family over a spider-man gravestone IRL.
The fact that the writers even mention the online haters, and the very on-the-nose Doomcock reference is proof positive that it has truly gotten under their thin skin. A thing of beauty to witness.
Who is doomcock?
Who is doomcock?
The one who constantly leaks Disney's internal issues
bro typed out a whole paragraph to cope with the fact that a show got under his skin 💀💀💀
@@superspies32 actually: the guy who imagines Disney's internal issues, then presents his imagination as a leak.
I like how CGI in the 2000s and early 2010s are better than most of todays 😢
Expensive time-consuming CGI vs. Expensive mass-produced time crunch CGI with unreasonable deadlines and no pay to the actual animators.
The difference is lots of overtime and not being paid for it.
She hulk looks and is awful but tbf the cgi is better then alot of the stuff in the early 2000s not 2010s
@@JerkinPork I couldn't get specific cause I was too lazy 4 months ago 🤕
@@Dewday1REAL Its alright I DIDINT KNOW YOUR COMMENT WAS 4 MONTHS OLD LMAO
She-Hulk is the worst show ever made Velma:allow me to introduce myself
She-hulk: "at last, our battle shall be legendary!"
@@ezroid7791 Queen Cleopatra: Weaklings....
@@l0sts0ul89 How dare you, it's a documentary!
@@Rudra0141 That's even worse💀
@@Rudra0141💀
Deadpool had a million jokes and fourth wall breaks in it, and STILL had serious moments where the comedy was turned down
Because Deadpool is an actual good movie with actual good casting, directing, script, etc. Plus, was made by Fox. Not Marvel, which is why it's better.
And what's worse is, Deadpool had a smaller budget than all of She Hulk, was made by FOX, and is a less popular, newer character than She Hulk is.
"Jokes"
Because deadpool is an actually good movie
And still felt as shitty as most of the MCU nonsense these days.
I hate these shows like She-Hulk where they can only lift women up by demeaning and almost de-humanizing men
What bothered me most was the fact that she didn't want Hulk to help her in the end because it was "her show" yet we've watched Loki, Hawkeye, Dr. Strange, and Thor become damn near bystanders next to their female counterparts in their own shows.
What I like about Hawkeye though is that she at least never one-upped him. He actually had to train her and she had to allow him The agenda is still there, but it's done better than these other shows
@@Beastinvader There's still that part where Hawkeye tells Kate that she really is the best Archer in the world
In the examples you are listing, we already know about those characters so the writing focused on introducing new. In she hulk she is the new character so she is the focus. The guys you listed are not going to be around much longer
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp That's true. But at least she had to train under him before getting that title. It's still cringe as she's so young and he is still alive. But I still think Hawkeye handled the new generation better than any film so far
@@Beastinvader she's definitely the best set up, but that show is just less crap then all the other crap they've been putting out. I demand better.
It’s almost as if the writers knew exactly what they needed to write a good She Hulk series and just did the exact opposite
Rumor has it, the Loki show. That time agency is supposed to be Disney. The writers just taking subtle jabs at how working for Disney turns you into a NPC.
@@hectorrico8661 wooahh that's pretty interesting if that's true 😂
Didn't the writer said that she will anger fans in purpose because she wants to see the drama or some shit like that if I remember right?
And they somehow created a character that's more narcissistic than Patrick Bateman
I don't think so, they clearly don't know how to make She Hulk show. They don't understand the character and just turn her into something fit their propaganda.
"She-Hulk is the worst show ever made" *Velma:* Hold my beer
'She-Hulk' is a prime example of why Disney should have simply closed shop when Walt died.
That’s a bit extreme because it’s not like Disney never did anything good ever again. The Renaissance changed the course of animation history and that’s something worth keeping. Now what I will say is that the MCU did not have to continue after Endgame. The MCU had a great ending and the fact that they’re floundering to keep it going is evident in the quality of its very sharp decline in quality.
Well, I know a very good show that ends when a dude called Walt dies
@sadboijokes endgame was trash, read the six original infinity gauntlet, infinity wars, or any multiple character infinity crossovers that were published and you'll understand why everyone is soo mad with Disney but they've changed narratives, storylines, and pandered soo far from how it was written (which was masterfully done initially) that they cant capitalize on what they envisioned from the start because they've screwed all aspects soo terribly that, theres no redemption. And Disney isn't willing to just give up on their cash cow now so heres what we get, sloppy written manure to try and eek out any remaining dime to an informed audience base who no longer watches because those fans saw their flaws immediately
@@sadboijokescase in point, in the original, Adam warlock with the help of Silver surfer which were 2 of the fastest beings in MCU stole the gauntlet off of Thanos's hand while he was distracted in battle by almost the entirety of MCUs superheroes after which Dr.Doom fought them and took it into his possession, sadly none of which happened on screen even the battle was changed. Second, Thanos killed off half of the populous and in return to balance the universe he created evil doppelgangers of all superheroes, which is how Carnage, (Spiderman/Venom's evil-twin because both were once joined) was created from them by Thanos. I mean Disney even screwed Adam warlock's character soo bad that he went from a near omniscient, egotistical, know it all, to a clumsy, dim-witted, test tube baby incapable of self reliance or cognition. And i dont even want to elaborate on how demi-gods like Galactis, Dormamu, Ego and full gods like Eternity, Infinity, or the watchers were completely dismissed for a lazy quick buck
@@kermanklooxd4739”Jesse, what the hell are you talking about?”
Jessica Gao really let that pickle Rick episode go through her head , she actually think that she's a genius and her will shall be done no matter how stupid it sounds or looks like
Jessica Gao is guaranteed to die alone, in her apartment, not found or discovered for days, and no one will miss her or hold a funeral for her. Her and everyone like her, will end up like that. She will never learn from her mistakes and never grow as a person. I can't even hate someone so toxic and miserable, you already know how their life is going to end.
Which is hilarious because that episode was the beginning of the end for R&M
@@gingeranagram2467 The episode was based on joke from Twitter. A picture where they put Rick's face on a pickle. They really ran out of ideas.
That was weird
@@gingeranagram2467 tbh that episode was amazing
Wish you had a short section talking about Jen's original character in the comic, which is what makes this the biggest tragedy in Marvel. The character of Jen Walters is actually extremely charming, she's a wise-cracking sass much like Peter Parker. She loves her cousin Bruce, who she is grateful to have been saved by, as her transformation into She-hulk actually was a huge boost to her life. She loved being She-hulk, and it empowered her. She didn't care if people thought she was monstrous, weird, or a freak. She was meant to be the opposite of Bruce. A woman who wanted to be seen, and found, and not have to hide who she truly was.
The character in the show is extremely charming. You just dont like it
@@garenthal9638 You have that backwards. You think she is charming. Most people did not, which is evidenced by the poor performance of a show that had every advantage when it started.
@@billedens4749 the majority of the people who you say don’t like her already decided they didn’t like her before it came out. I actually think the show is pretty bad but she is great. Main issue is the writing. Tatiana Maslany gave a good performance and has the marvel charm that an actor needs to fit in. Brie Larson does not have that charm. When she hulk is in movies like secret wars with other people writing it people will start to like her more because she is likable. Captain Marvel is hated all around because she is just not a likable person
To the OP: it's a pity that the "writers" didn't take their inspiration from the source material then, as the version you're referring to sounds fun.
@@billedens4749 Ironic - Palpatine
How I would have fixed She-Hulk: 1. Cast an actually tall, athletic woman to play She-Hulk, use practical effects to make her look even bigger compared to the other actors, and use CG to "Steve Rogers" her down to "Jen size." Why? Because, in the comics, Jen actually prefers her Hulk form and feels more confident as a Hulk, so she stays Hulk all the time. 2. Make THAT her story arc. In the beginning of the series, she hates being Hulk, and the series is about her accepting it and she becomes She-Hulk 24/7. 3. I like your idea about the Abomination case being one long arc. Let's keep that. Also, the complication that she may end up having to defend Wong as well for breaking Abomination out of prison. 4. Fewer 4th wall breaks. I know Jen does it in the comics, but the MCU just acquired Deadpool, so let's not overdo it. 5. Write an actually compelling character and story. 6. Hire a legal consultant for the court drama part of the story. 7. Don't. Let. She-Hulk. Twerk.
Yeah my wife said the same about the show. We kept our kids away from it. She Hulk and this show is a bad role model for girls. All men are not like this. It's all about hating men. And they changed She Hulk origin too. She was dying and Bruce gave her his blood.
fr its disgusting to try to get girls to start fearing or hating all men. like what???? u rlly cant be happy in life if u hate half the population
They changed it cause this show is only about empowering women so they will never show a woman needing help from a man cause they're better than everyone all of a sudden
So they’re just going to ignore that time the apple store employee called Steve Rogers a “specimen” as a compliment? Like, yeah, that’s fine, but when it happens to Jen (who repeatedly talks about Steve like a piece of meat), it’s a cardinal sin. Okay, cool.
Tbf the context is very obviously different. Its not perverted at all to compliment a bro whose obviously worked hard on his physique, and is going on a honeymoon with his hot wife (from the employee’s perspective). It was just a nerdy compliment from a somewhat socially awkward dude - a response from Natasha’s sarcastic “you must be twins” I don’t like she hulk, not trying to defend the show, but calling a woman a “specimen” on your first date is a creepy red flag in itself. It’s plain to see why Jen (or any self respecting woman) would be grossed out and even troubled by that remark, in that context. A better comparison would be that one h*rny female officer in First Avenger who took advantage of Cap (who was clearly uncomfortable in the situation). Both the officer and “toxic man 3” had little regard for the respective main character and tried to take advantage of them, showing how easily both genders can be harassed. I appreciate that the early mcu at least tried to show a female taking advantage of a strong man like Cap bc that shit happens to everyone unfortunately
@@Luke_SkywaIker Whhhhat? You think calling a woman a 'specimen' is equal to groping and sexual assault? Opinion disregarded.
@@15thobserver tf where did he say that
@@vincesaenz2760 "A better comparison would be that one h*rny female officer in First Avenger who took advantage of Cap" You know, the one who groped and kissed him without his permission or prior interest? Thats S.A. and no its not 'a better comparison'. the better comparison was the one in the one espoused by the OP
@@Luke_SkywaIker I generally agree with what you're saying in this comment. But I do think the scene in CA:TFA proves there is a slight double standard. After all, unlike Jen - who gets to be angry about her sexual harrassment, Steve is victim-blamed, slut-shamed, and physically attacked by his love interest. And we know that the Marvel writers don't think Peggy's reaction would be acceptable if the genders were reversed because in the same movie Steve also wrongfully assumes Peggy is involved with Howard and he doesn't attack her for it. They also don't have a role-reversal of this scene in the Captain Carter episode of the "What If" series.
When Jen told Bruce that she didn't have anger issues, i thought that it was part of her development. That by the end of the show, she would acept that she actually has anger issues, and learn that accepting that isn't a weakness, but a strenght. But that didn't happen, even when the final episode had the perfect chance to do that, after Jen's violent reaction when Todd revealed all those videos.
i honestly believed the ending of the last before 8th episode would be a start of some sort of redemption arc
I thought that was what they were going for, especially at the penultimate episode when she got angry and lost everything because of it. Them the last episode was at age was wronged… and she Karen’s the writers to change the ending… the F!!
She didn’t say that. She said she used to controlling her anger due to dealing with catcalling and ish like that
@@CalebBerman thank you for your message. A little out of left field, but appreciated all the same. God bless you as well.
@@GreyKnight7777 it’s not that expectations where subverted. It’s that bad writing is grating. Ever hear of chekhov’s gun? Well if not neither did the writers. When the writers create a plot point, character thinks they have anger under control, to then show her life being trashed because of lack of control of anger. Then to have her fix it, not by actual character growth, but by complaining to the robot god who was never referenced before that point… it’s more then a missed opportunity. It’s nails to a chalkboard bad writing.
The last episode felt like something out of Deadpool without the comedy or charm of Deadpool
That office scene when Michael goes to Pam’s art show is truly written perfectly
She-Hulk is a show that will be forgotten and one I know I can be certainly glad to never have watched
What the heck is She-Hulk? Is it a show?
I'm still trying to figure out Why Anybody watched this show.. It couldn't have been Just for Daredevil, knowing they'd Butcher him too.
@@kmdreacts To see how bad it is lol
@@kmdreacts I watched it because it was fascinating. I make nothing but bad videos and yet somehow professions have done worse than me.
@@whateverkat8122 that seems like a Lot of work 😩
Are we really living in a time where Minions: The Rise of Gru is one of the best things to come out this year!?
I wouldn’t say that. Sonic 2 and Batman were pretty great.
The Batman, Sonic 2, X, Pearl, Top Gun: Maverick, Dahmer, Everything Everywhere All At Once… definitely a few worthy features out there this year.
@@TheMovieCynic your not wrong I was just saying that it’s rediculus that a show made by marvel is cinematic garbage, minions was the best example foe comparison to me
Alright now I know she hulk is garbage but sheesh now we’re just saying literally anything is better ? Or did she hulk lower the bar so much a minions move can be considered “one of the best things to come out this year”?
No.
I have a theory. Maybe Jen only runs into the worst guys because she’s just such a foul and despicable person herself and like attracts like and all. Or maybe it’s an “if you go outside and you meet an asshole, you met an asshole, but if you go outside and everyone’s an asshole, you’re an asshole” situation. Maybe that was what they were trying to say all along.
I promise you the writers are not that intelligent or self aware
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access But…but… No one can be that unselfaware, right? …right? P- Please…please tell me they don’t suck that hard. Please…
I love how when you start "salvaging" the story, you begin by making the assumption that the producers deliberately made an unlikeable main character to allow for development. I think that's probably giving them way too much credit.
I feel that nowadays a lot of writers ruin things completely out of malice and envy.
As a non-binary bisexual goof I am severely disappointed at the new shows they just paint wrong messages about people to promote their own message while people just want entertainment. The new Velma show is goofy you ruined a show and removed scoob and shaggy for your own message Bruv
Misandry is the only driving force of out society
@@angeloryanguerzon7561 wait scooby’s not gonna be in the new show?
@@1Luhreezy yes, he doesn't exist
@@nohomonohetero7932 how tf they make a show about mystery inc without scooby??? Ts not adding up
Being a VFX artist working on a show like this sounds like hell on earth.
It was
@@MASTEROFEVIL damn were u one of them
@@jacobmatthews7524 Never worked for Marvel or Disney but I did do VFX one summer back when I was interning. It sucked
@@MASTEROFEVIL i can imagine, any kind of animation is something i would never want to do as a job, the conditions seem terrible
@@jacobmatthews7524 Believe they are. They really really are
I havent heard anyone talk about the fact that as a hulk her bodily fluids are radioactive and deadly to humans. She 100% killed every single perspn she got with. This is why bruce stays away from romance and is a crucial part of the burden that comes with his condition. It defines his character
i think its funny how one of the people who worked on this show worked on the annoying orange show on CN back in 2012
Well that explains why this garbage is so idiotically braindead.
...that explains literally everything
"you must be fun at parties" This is always said when someone says something REALLY dumb and gets called out
I'm so glad essays like this exist, that way I don't have to actually watch the show
The immortal guy who jumped out of the window to get away from those women is a hero to me.
Fallout will come true soon enough
My friend got mildly annoyed I had a opinion about the show and the mcu's state as a whole when I hadn't watched any of the shows, im like that's what reviews are for, so I know whether a given show is worth my time. She said the only criticism she's heard of the show was from and I quote "misogynistic dudebros who can't stand to see a powerful woman" I have never heard something that caused me more pain than that statement, and I once dropped a rock the size of my liver on my finger when I was nine.
@@azaril7780 to be honest all of the criticism I've heard is about the lazy writing. Every single time it comes down to that. Now I'm not gonna hate on this show or tell people not to watch it. But if every critical mention of this show is how in order to make the main character less shitty they make every man around her at least twice as shitty, then I think we might just have a shitty show
@@TheHarryBalzonya exactly, you can have a powerful woman, look at half the damn xmen, several of dcs female heroes, this just ain't how you do it
What really made me uncomfortable was how Jen was talking about Steve. And that happened multiple times and she has his butt saved as phone wallpaper. And you don't even have to reverse the genders in this situation, it was just plainly disgusting.
I'm a woman but I agree as well, i found those scenes really creepy; shows the double standards
@@onceafetus426 Yeah, really gave me an ick. Imagine Moonknight doing this to Natasha...
@@danton1 I am sorry I don't understand that line xddd. But I am sure that there's plenty of those kind of lyrics, million sexist songs sung and written by both men and women.
@@onceafetus426 I wouldn't say double standard necessarily, because it seems most people agree it was creepy and weird. There certainly can be times where people unfairly treat issues between men and women but this one seems pretty universally understood as wrong
that and when she says she smashes Matt Murdock, which seemed like elevating him to just a piece of meat rather than respecting him as a person. If any man said said the same thing about Jen he would be called disgusting, and rightly so
Hold on there bucko! Rings of Power and Willow are defiantly in the conversation
When a show goes out of its way to insult the fans that might watch it & cry foul when they’re critiqued for doing so .. How did they expect this to succeed ..
only Deadpool and Danganronpa V3 can do that and make it good and funny!
The main issue with most of these female lead, writer self insert character stories revolves around one thing… They don’t get character arcs because that would force the writer to put her character(herself) down in some way. A character has to fall down in some way before they can raise back up. That’s the foundation of any good character arc, but it can never happen to any of these strong female characters because that would mean that first need to be knocked down, and the writers can’t have that.
you defined the problem in one short sentence "writer self insert character story" self insert characters are always the need of an egocentric person to prove they are better than what they are. and I know this because I'm no different than that. I have failed to write any decent story because I end self inserting myself as one of the main characters.
@@WilliamWizer I’ve never written anything to that extent, but I imagine it’s gotta be hard sometimes not to self insert in some way, even if it’s subconsciously.
@@ganjathegr8143 the problem isn't inserting yourself but inserting an idealized version of yourself because you tend to forget to insert your flaws too.
@@WilliamWizer Exactly. Character arc implies that there are lessons to be learned, experiences to be had, growth and personal development etc. Can’t really have any of those things if you’re a “Mary Sue” and there’s nothing more to add to your perfect character who knows everything. I think you worded everything excellently.
@@casadilla111 it's easy when you become able to see that your worst flaw is feeling you aren't allowed to have flaws (already working with my therapist about that)
They had a chance to have She-Hulk stand for true justice, exposing how the justice system is broken and her struggle to fight against the corruption, but no. How you look on social media, dating issues, celebrities and dealing with petty 1st world problems are exactly what you should expect from She-Hulk Attorney At Law.
luckily daredevil covers this issue
let me pitch you an idea: She-Hulk Season 2 with a lot more Daredevil, this exact plot, Pheonix Wright and Saul Goodman as side characters and Monokuma as the villian!
Truly, a show written by women.
There is no version. Of SHE hulk that would work. Just stop
I have to admit the "I'm a completely different person now" joke made me chuckle
What a great review. I couldn't finish this abomination of a show (pun intended) so the fact that you watched the entire show without dying gives me Mad Respect for you. I couldn't imagine finishing the show, so watching this review, I'm glad I didn't finish this show. You make wonderful points and it shows how the writers and producers failed an interesting character in the comics, and made her into the most unlikeable character in the existence of film/TV. I love your examples of films/shows too on good writing and execution, as it shows the writers of this mess of a show definitely feel so bitter towards their audience rather than telling a good story. Speaking of unlikeable characters but growing to love them, A good night and day difference is an actually good, funny, and snarky female character: April Ludgate from Parks and Rec. She could come across as unlikeable to some viewers, but as viewers get to know her better, there are more layers to her than her just being snarky and deadpan (like when she gives Andy Dyer the Jersey he wanted for Christmas). Jennifer Walters in Attorney at Law, however, does not have ANY moments like that throughout the show. She thinks any male is like you said, either against her or stupid. Funny enough, before they announced the show, I thought Aubrey Plaza would've been a fantastic She Hulk based on She Hulk's comic personality, but looking back, I'm glad that they didn't cast Aubrey because Aubrey deserves ALOT better than a shitstorm like She Hulk: Attorney at Law. (I saw where you really enjoyed Emily the Criminal, which is a fantastic movie in my opinion). So yeah, I really enjoyed your review Cynic, which is ALOT more than I can say of the episodes I watched of Attorney at Law. Keep up the great work.
“It’s not the best MCU show - but I appreciate the MCU trying something new” - *The Average MCU Fan* that can never muster up harsh criticism for a Marvel property.
Don’t forget the classic “oh it wasn’t for me but I still enjoyed it, I just can’t understand the hate! Don’t like, don’t watch” Nothing annoys me more than that deflection
When they get super-hyped up over a small cameo like dude, DD was done dirty in She-Hulk and you know it. Stop being a shill 😂
Every once in a while I find myself in one of the mainstream Marvel comments sections. It's alarming. I'm not making fun of the fans, I'm just shocked at how ironically bad mainstream Marvel fans are at reading the room. They would probably say that the people calling out wokeness are "incels" who don't do well socially, but the average person has long since decided that Marvel has problems. The die hard fans are completely behind the times on this stuff. Warning bells were breaking out of flashing red enclosures months ago trying to call attention to the collapse of the MCU and some fans are oblivious to it. It's started canabalizing the nostalgia created by lots of the original films to power the low effort TV shows and that's the last thing that a fan would normally want. If they aren't careful, "Marvel" could become a hated household word.
@@matthewmosier8439 I somewhat agree. But because I really liked Wandavision, am I apart of the problem? Wouldn’t it be more wise for both sides of the isle to come together to voice genuine concerns for the franchise, rather then just clown on each other and not take others opinions seriously? That’s a lot of what I’m seeing in the comments, and personally I think that’s just as unhelpful as the die hard fans who can’t critique anything.
@@cosmo588 I agree there should be a happy medium. I think you should be able to watch something from Marvel, enjoy it, but also not allow them to insult your intelligence just because it’s Marvel. I think that’s the main issue, would they defend it so vigorously if it didn’t have the Marvel tag attached to it?
I just fucking love the observation of Camile Vasquez being this universally loved lawyer (woman of color) while they talk about how hard it is to be a female lawyer, and then simultaneously saying they dont know shit about law or lawyers.
I agree with you but it is hard as a woman in that field, that’s just how it is :/ Camille Vasquez is a badass tho
And the woman who defended Heard was loved?
Who knows Goa might’ve been siding with Heard during the trial.
@@bibi-bi9qu Speaking from experience?
@@bibi-bi9qu Camille was a pilot of Zeta Gundam after all
They missed a golden opportunity and easy way to get high ratings is when they didn't do the story where She Hulk and Spiderman team up to sue James Jonah Jameson for defamation. Could have gotten the Spiderman actor to make an appearance and that alone would have made it one of the most watched episodes out of all the marvel shows.
17:20 this is the same problem I have with the Harley Quinn show. If a male character isn't an ally, he's written as stupid, pathetic, an asshole, or a combination of the three. None of the men can be good without any of those properties attached in some way.
This show is a cautionary tale about what happens when you hire the wrong writer.
Or more to the point, when you let narcissists become writers for a TV show.
A lesson Hollywood is doing the opposite of learning nowadays
When Karens run show. These are another type of Karen's.
When you hire an all female writing staff unfamiliar with source material. They were hired because they all have an axe to grind with men who either don't give them a second look or leave after a few dates. Just one look at Gao tells you all you need to know about her.
@@scifiwriter98 You thought they'd learn after the Ghostbusters feminist disaster. Then blaming the men that the movie sucked 😂😂😂
Even though this video is 34 minutes long, it was compendious and accurate. The lead actress-as talented as she is, couldn’t save this show.
And then she doubled down on the BS.
I'm still yet to see her talent, what are you seeing that I'm not?
@@ironmatto3 dude so many people keep talking about it including Drinker himself but idk what they’re talking about.
She’s objectively terrible.
@@fersuvious she did a really good job of playing such a shitty and narcissistic character, or that could be her real personality and she wasn't acting, you never know
I think they were trying to re-create Fleabag and failed miserably because they thought it was all about the drinking, raunchy commentary + breaking the fourth wall when it was really about grief and coming to terms with one’s darkest moments and finally taking ACCOUNTABILITY - this is where they checked out because they obviously had no grasp or concept of that.
She-Hulk was not just the worst Marvel project ever released, it was one of the worst series ever released.
Lesson from the She Hulk Finale: Don't like your plot in life? It's ok, just whine until you're given what you want.
I think that was suppose to be about how the mcu is repetitive and messy Idk how you got that out of it
That's an Oof
@Easton Earl idc it was funny
@@mamajeans8966 🤡
@@mamajeans8966 Don't listen to them. FemceIs who hang out on FDS forums also find it funny.
Imagine if this show had character development, a good sound track and every episode wasn't about she hulk trying to get laid.
Ep 7 was good character development but the following eps kinda messed it up. Imo breaking the fourth wall doesn't fit well to character development.
Welcome to near every TV show in the modern day..
@@oeny6040 I think you could show character development while breaking the fourth wall. I dare say it would make it easier, as the character has a chance to actively voice the change they've undergone, and show recognition of their past.
@@NicolasKiroy that's just monologuing no need to break the fourth wall to achieve it. Edit: now that I think about it I would like to see monologuing while breaking the fourth wall, it's as if the character is directly talking to the viewers.
@@oeny6040 That's literally what I was talking about. As a tool, using the wall break to have a heart to heart with the audience, a moment of reflection, etc. You can achieve that with a monologue, but monologues are cheesy the majority of the time they're used. Same could be said for the fourth wall break, but some do it better than others.
Thank you for watching it all and giving a thorough summary of the show. It's a shame since in the comics She-Hulk is actually a character I really like. They could have copy-pasted any one of those story lines and instead went the route of let's smear our shit on this food and serve it to people and then wonder why they don't like to eat our food.
It’s funny because Hollywood used to make strong female leads better than they have in recent years. It’s almost like when they specifically try to make them a strong female boss bitch, they fail, but when they didn’t really try and were just focused on making a decent movie, they succeeded. Lara Croft is a good strong female character because they focused on making a good movie and character, and didn’t focus on the fact that she was a women. She went through trials and hardships, she wasn’t insufferable and immediately amazing at everything. I just don’t understand how people nowadays think that these “strong females characters” are good. I would NEVER want my daughter to look up to a female character who puts men down, is completely obsessed with herself past the point of general confidence, is born amazing at fighting or whatever and never had to work for it. A good lesson would’ve been if She Hulk did allow Hulk to help her. Boom, teaches kids and everyone that you can’t immediately be great at everything, and seeking help from people with more experience than you is invaluable. But no, teach them to be conceded assholes who never have to work for anything and overshadow every male no matter what.
I have never seen any form of media that holds the writers insecurities and hatred so tight to its core that it feels like you can see through the content into their mind without deeper analysis. This show is honestly astounding in how it managed to accomplish that.
Must really suck to hate all men on such a visceral level, yet still be attracted to us.
Velma would like a word lol
@@ewitz9328 Tbh it feels like Velma is just more honest about it, but has the same opinions behind it.
What's truly astounding is the raw and naked insecurities of so many dudes that this show has revealed. 😂
@@dougcrump3581 Hope she sees this bro
I have the feeling that the new form of entertainment these days isn't really the product itself, but rather the controversy surrounding it.
At this point, I doubt anything would surprise me.
Agreed.
Deep truth.
Amen
The new form of entertainment is listening to KZheadrs shit on garbage movies and shows that we’re never gonna watch ourselves.
Oh man I’m gonna love this channel , great content to binge. You literally hit the nail on the head with everything 🤯 much appreciated sir
0:55 imagine seeing a person who stopped a leviathan in one punch being thrown to the ground after a clap from its female counter part
Reminder that Jennifer never apologized to her cousin about her belittling of him and his experiences in Episode 1, and probably rewrote the memories of Bruce and everyone involved in this show in order to avoid doing that, or any consequences.
She even doubled down in that episode and said she was "right". Very noble character, right?
@@INFILTR8US are you a fucking retard as well as a sexist?
@@INFILTR8US eh
Why would she appologize for telling him the truth
@@MarStoryTime she was right
This show.... I honestly couldn't even stomach to finish it but the clips I have seen.... Wow.. Especially the finale.... It's almost like they're trying to make shehulk look bad on purpose and then gaslighting the consumers into thinking they're the problem. I honestly don't even know what to say
I find it interesting that they’re attacking the fans for disliking the show, effectively saying “it’s awesome, you’re just misogynistic idiots”, and then are apparently quietly restructuring phase 5 and 6 due to criticism. Sounds like a video needs to be made about that.
@@TheMovieCynic I would love to watch a video of you talking about that! I'm just still baffled at how delusional they are. Do they have dementia? I'm seriously rhetorically asking 😖 Videos like yours are the only entertaining thing about these dumb shows. Maybe they're using these shows to launder money or something. I dunno lol
@Alteori That's almost literally what Jessica Gao did; someone who has serious issues and baggage, who decided to literally waste millions of dollars of her employer's money to "troll the audience," in one big giant therapy coping session for herself and all her equally misandrist writers (as well as literally having a giant therapy session for herself and writers in the actual show.) And Marvel Studios, since they let them do it, deserved to lose all that money. But the character of She Hulk didn't deserve to be destroyed like this, and the audience didn't deserve this level of hate, either. It's actually poetic, because like most feminists, they unintentionally ended up hating women and female characters almost as much as intentionally hating men and male characters. Anyone who could write a female character this badly has to hate women.
@@TheMovieCynic Have you done that video??? If so, haven’t seen and would enjoy watching. She-Hulk cannot be put on screen ever again. It simply doesn’t fit. It’s beyond a joke to see She-Hulk and Kamala as part of main Avengers team in Kang Dynasty. Pure cringe.
I couldn't even last the first 5 minutes of the first episode Jumping up and down on broken glass with bare feet would be less painful
The fact that you watched this just to make this video is the equivalent of running into a horde of zombies so that the rest of us can run away. I shall remember this sacrifice, subbed.
I subscribed because of your No BS, level headed and realistic approach..... and .... and the F-Bombs. Your analysis is refreshingly intelligent. Love it man.
My mom isn't really into marvel stuff. She likes her crappy hallmark Christmas movies. But even she called me, and went on a rant about how terrible this show was. I was baffled that she was so upset with the show, because it's an honest, raw reaction for how someone feels about a piece of content.
It’s unreal how bad this show was… on all aspects
A show so bad that makes Hallmark movies look like Citizen Kane level of movie making.
"None of these storylines make any sense!" You literally just summed up the entirety of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
What's wrong with Falcon and the Winter Soldier?
@@leonrobinson8180 So much. Red Devilosa Reviews has more information and he says it far better than I ever could, so watch his content.
Sums up every show in phase 4 😕
@@k7l3rworkman97 You're so right that it's not even funny.
Facts
“She/Her Hulk” killed me 😆
I was confused how they could write the lead character to be so unlikable, but then realized, the writers wrote her as they seem themselves. Narcissists, insufferable and lacking any charm.
I love when people call me a 40 year old happily married man an “incel” because I don’t like a tv show because it has an unlikeable main character and bad writing / acting and written by activists to send a message and not to just make a quality show (like how the Netflix daredevil show was). It’s like “incel” now a days just means “person who doesn’t agree with me” as well as “troll” these words have lost their meaning.
Just out of curiosity but what does incel meant originally?
LOL
"Incel" these days is the same with the word "woke", irrelevant words caused by overexposure and the constant misusing
@@georgeray1906 Involuntarily Celibate. It's essentially calling out angry nerds who can't get laid. It used to reference fat ugly perverts gaming in their parents' basement who think all women are against them. It used to be a derogatory term toward someone who never took charge of their own life and blames the world for their problems. Ironic...
@@georgeray1906 involuntary celibate, someone no one wants to have sex with usually because that person is incredibly ugly, unlikable, or both.
When Batgirl was axed by WB, saying that it was brand damaging, I actually wanted to watch it to know what a brand damaging movie will look like. Now I know.
People forget originally she was white, then recast as a bw. Then kept snowballing downhill. Why make a big budget movie of that?
I bet you BG was slightly better than this. At leasr Zaslav has some sense of shame.
Remember how awesome it was when Punisher showed up in Daredevil? Then, that Luke Cage episode, when Iron fist and him team up, so cool. We had it pretty good back then 😪
When people say "write what you know" I don't think this is what they meant...
Modern writters really used the 'meta joke' tool to its limits, there is really nothing worse than a "see, how bad our show is? Even we know it". How about making a good show? That would definitelly subvert my expectations.
Critical Drinker: "Nahh,it will be fine" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
His making Cameo's everywhere now😂
it really pissed me off when i was in penguinz0s live and i seen that comment about velma’s skin color, like he had a legit point and the twitter bot got defensive and instantly tried to make him seem racist when race wasn’t even part of the conversation
these kinds of shows and movies make me hate feminism, which is the exact opposite of what I should (want to) do. It‘s a message rubbed in your face instead of a good story, and it‘s horrible. I agree with everything mentioned in this video. And just so you know, I fully support women‘s rights.
It’s everything wrong with the mcu in one show. It’s like they did it on purpose
It planned to do it in purpose "dats da joke... bigot!"
everything wrong with phase 4, shows mcu should of ended with end game
They did do it on purpose. They want to "stick it" to people who don't like it by deliberately making something horrific and then sit back and act it like it proved something. It's bizarre and psychotic. Funded by Disney.
When I saw Bob's Burgers I thought they tried to write the worst show ever on purpose. She Hulk makes that look like The Sopranos.
@@kyotheman69 No, the commentor does not need correction. its had the same problems since p1 and endgame quite literally made it worse.
Tim Roth given 100% for The Incredible Hulk but here he don't give any shit whatever happens. After watching She-Hulk, my respect for Edward Norton's Hulk increased.
Much respect to Ruffalo but the Ed Norton version and look was better imo. The university scene against the military is the epitome of Savage Hulk. Underrated movie
@@mikewright8304 I always felt Nortons Hulk was great. And I thought Mark was good at first but after Ragnarok I was like “okay I’m out.”
@@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT Yea Ruffalo was excellent in the first Avengers film, especially the way he played Bruce. The socially awkward, depressed, embarrassed to be who he is, etc... that's the one time I felt he played the role perfectly.
@@anthonyanderson9303 same 👍
Go for a gritty law drama with some action and a dash of comic relief. Make the leader the main antagonist of the series,who will undo banners control over the hulk, returning savage hulk to the mcu. The leader will be unable to control the hulk and she hulk will have to battle and ultimately out wit him to save the day. so much potential squandered
even though i watched your vid a year later you have my mad respect for binging she hulk. I couldn't get past the first episode
When the writers of a show featuring a lawyer as the main character said they had no idea how to do courtroom anything, you knew it was gonna be a one in a kind show.
But the writers were females, and they know everything
Ironic that She-Hulk is one of the most beloved superheroines in Marvel comics, but the show made her one of the most hated.
No it didn’t, at least for me. Just like Teen Titans Go didn’t make me hate the Teen Titans By that I mean, it made me appreciate the previous, better-written incarnations
Because some comic characters simply don’t translate to big screen.
@@jayw3512 except that this was a tv show
@@Animestar21 Any screen.
Well, if it worked for Deadpool, there was no reason She-Hulk couldn't work The problem was the people making it
I just had to comment here that out of all your great thumbnails, this one is the greatest.
I'm not a homosexual person but I still find it kinda insulting that the show represents almost every gay character as the same? Like, it's like they turned the term homosexual into a personality (which is literally just being feminine and shit) rather than what it is, a sexuality And that's not even a problem in just this show, it's literally a problem in everything
Yeh, that was my issue when I saw the designer dude... fkin insulting. I may bottom with my man, but I dont walk around with my hand up, talking like a walking stereotype and dangling my hips. This show managed to denigrate everyone.
@@AnonningAnon yeah, I'm surprised people aren't talking more about this, it seems to be a trope now which, well, it's pretty insulting, considering that this is not how gay people act (I know that there are a few that do but to assume that it's every single one is ridiculous)
The Token Gay Character is becoming another box to check with each series. Another aspect that makes these properties so regressive.
"Then he turned himself into a pickle funniest shit I've ever seen" I think she let that gone into her head
At least the end of that episode had some interesting character analysis 😭 I’d give ANYTHING for the therapist monologue to be in this show
Thanks. Your review is more entertaining than the TV show itself.
I couldn't believe the vitriol and hatred poured onto this series. So I went and watched 3 whole episodes. It's unbelievable. I can't imagine how many steps in the processes of movie industry must be compromised to hallow this brain damage to happen.
Wtf are y’all talking about 🤣🤣 she hulk stands up fine
@@joermcconnor7331 Hope she sees this bro
@@joermcconnor7331 k paid npc bot desperate to defend trash from the light of reality
I find it hilarious that, when one upping Hulk, he throws the rock with just a wrist flick while she puts her whole arm and back into it and only gets a few feet farther. Then she celebrates thinking she did something. It's like the director snuck a little F U in to the writers and they were too dumb to notice.
23:20 thank you for your sacrifice
While i agree with most of what is said in this video, there were a couple things i liked about it. They made the lead more flawed after the first episode, and anytime Jennifer Walters (not as She-Hulk) was on screen, i think she did a good job. I actually liked the way they had her behave after she slept with that guy, and waiting anxiously for a text that never came. That was written well. There were definitely a lot of cringe moments, but the performance of the lead (in human form) i enjoyed quite a bit. It's unfortunate that most of the time, the writing was stupid.
I’ll never get sick of people crapping on she hulk
And I’ll never get sick of dunking on it
I am consistently appalled at the kind of dialogue that comes out of shows like this. "I love harassing women at the work place" is fucking legendary lmao. I guarantee that's never come out of a person's mouth genuinely. I'm sure it's crossed a person's mind. But literally declaring it to a room of nothing but women? Seriously? Lmao
that was a shapeshifter who wanted to mess with anything and everything so it makes sense she would say that lol
That sounds like something someone would say ironically
I heard a guy say once, “we were just talking about women, and how we don’t respect them and only have sex with them.” But he was shitfaced and he said it super awkward, like you could tell he didn’t know why he was saying it. This was at a college party about ten years ago. Anyway that’s all I got.
It reminds me of old people trying to write teenaged characters. It’s just so out of touch and literally no teenager actually talks like that lol
Fun fact: this was the only Marvel tv show that I started but never actually finished
I got a show idea. "Budding Flowers", a highschool drama where the protagonists start out agreeable from different genders and ethnicities, but as the 20-24 episode 1st season goes on each character becomes more and more polarizing in their own views to the point of mayhem. In the end the only character that ends relatable is a janitor that's always in the background shugging off the highschool drama.
I think a far better comparison than The Office would be Peacemaker.. He's a dude that has some bad personality defects, from his upbringing and other factors, but at his core, he is a good person and genuinely wants to be a hero. Throughout the show's first season, we learn where he came, how rotten his father is, the trauma from his past, and how all of that molded him into the person he is, but also it shows him grow and learn from both his victories and his failures, and in the end he finds redemption. He's still not perfect, but he comes a long way, gaining friends, developing clearer morals and values, rising above his villainous father's abuse, and becoming the hero he had always sought to be. On top of all of that, the show was fucking hilarious.. Basically every thing She-Hulk did terribly, Peacemaker did it right.
But Peacemaker is from the master James Gunn
@@arturocastroverde3349 very true
@@arturocastroverde3349 give james gunn the she-hulk IP and watch the magic happen
Well to be fair if Movie Cynic actually used Peacemaker as a comparison with She-Hulk then it would've been more like a curbstomp battle.
@@georgeray1906 You definitely have a point there.
Beautiful video that touches RIGHT on the subject matter at hand, especially around the 10:00 mark. There's a wild misunderstanding in Hollywood writing these days that the only way to get an audience to connect with movie characters, they have to relate to them by means of gender, race, or sexual orientation. This is not true. A man can watch Alien and find ways to connect to Ellen Ripley, just like a woman can watch a Spider-Man movie and relate to Peter Parker. Sadly, the writers of today can't understand this. Excellent video! Gave it a thumbs up!
THIS. I've also seen the misunderstanding affect Japanese media, in this case, the new Mobile Suit Gundam show. Witch from Mercury is made by and for people who don't get Gundam. The concept of a female protagonist however, SHOULD have worked because Mobile Suit Gundam has tons of memorable female characters in the franchise. Sayla Mass from the original show? Marida Cruz from the Unicorn OVA? Cagalli Yula [Atha] from SEED? All of these characters could be relatable to male viewers, just like how Amuro Ray, Banagher Links and even Kira Yamato could be rooted for by women. However, Witch from Mercury didn't get this, and instead, under the belief that "GUNDAM IS FOR OLD FOLKS SO LET'S UPDATE IT FOR MODERN AUDIENCES!", decided to make a High School Lesbian Romance, which is just UUUUUGH... so frustrating and hateful. It's quite telling that now, the fanbase is suffering from an invasion of fake "fans" who misunderstand the franchise like how the staff do, and that there's no safe haven. Witch from Mercury used the Hollywood woke misunderstanding, and it is damaging the franchise.
@@NebLleb Well said it!
@@NebLleb I don't get the complaint here, You say that female protagonist would work and they made a show with them. How is that an issue?
@@criccode2993 NO, They did it WRONG, you nutter! Rather than just making a show with a female protagonist, they decided to trick fans into watching something that foresook the DNA of the franchise for something far worse. They made it about IDENTITY and REPRESENTATION rather than STORYTELLING.
@@NebLleb Well its been only 3 episodes out of 25+ so I would hold back on criticism about story telling. It has only set up the basic premise of the show and have not done anything bad yet. Identity and representation are very welcome in any show as a theme so I am happy to see them. We will have to see what they do with these and then we can criticise them. I do not believe that there is any problem with the concept of this show, and you should keep an open mind while watching this show.
If you want great female characters, look no further than Mission Impossible's Ilsa Faust by Rebecca Ferguson. She does not need to berate Ethan Hunt or rest of the IMF team to show she is "strong" and "independent". She brings her certain level of skills and expertise which the entire team, especially Ethan, respects.
You are so creative and funny. Loved this.
That moment with Michael buying Pam's picture was also even more poignant because he has been established as a man with no filter. We know that he is being absolutely sincere in how much he loves her work and the pride that he has in seeing her work. With a character like Jen we would assume she was just being nice.
Also, She-Hulk somehow manages to ruin the worldbuilding of the MCU even more by repealing the Sokovia Accords, which renders the Civil War film entirely meaningless now. You'd think that, after the events of Phase 4, the UN would want even more regulations and restrictions placed on superpowered individuals, because in the eyes of the average person, they clearly can't control themselves. And after what Wanda did in Westview - *_enslaving an entire town of over 3,000 people_* - and what Jennifer did in Episodes 6 and 8, which was start a fight at a *wedding reception hall* and *destroy the top level of a parking garage and multiple cars,* public opinion of superpowered individuals would be *down.* And now this finale has made the entirety of She-Hulk season 1 pointless. Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories and Kingdom Hearts 2 somehow take the idea of fucking with people's memories more seriously than the MCU, now.
The Sokovia Accords wouldn't have lasted anyways and it would be impossible to enforce it over a long period of time. I'm glad they did away with it.
@@MovieGuy666 No, they would. And the fact that they did away with it in such a shitty manner shouldn't be something you're glad about. These superpowered individuals have the potential to hurt thousands of people, if not more, and you think it's a good thing that the governments of the world have _no say_ in what those individuals do?
@@MovieGuy666 The Sokovia Accords would have been an effective mine for character drama, especially since they want to bring in the X-Men who have many stories built around mutants, who are super powered individuals, being profiled, registered, and hunted down. You also had the potential of background organizations like Hydra or Shield repurposing Stark's tech to create an enforcement system for helping handle super powered individuals. There was a lot of narrative conflict that could have been used to make something, be it referencing comic content or making something new to fit the MCU.
This is what it looks like when a writer feels that they deserve to work in Hollywood, rather than a talented writer who earned the right to work in Hollywood.
She hulk is not a show it is a joke from marvel. They probably wanted to show us that all other movies are not bad since they could have been much worse
That office scene literally makes my eyes water. This show can only dream of anything resembling that.
I almost sobbed at that Michael and Pam moment with her drawings
Cried bro. Ngl
Same here man, so heartwarming
I think that made me not like she hulk even more. Micheal is a mess… but in that moment we got to see the bright-gentle human soul underneath. She Hulk has nothing like this to redeem her
wait but it did work in iron man 2. i remember laughing my ass off at that scene, unless that was sarcasm i just found your channel lol
22:10 Reasonable response
I have a sneaking suspicion that the writers were extremely insulated females who never actually experienced these various stylizations of men. Merely, they were romanticizing being a victim because that’s what they heard it’s like when men actually show interest because these women have never actually had a man interested in them to begin with, sad.
Obviously
I’ll get on board with that
I watched the head writer of this movie interview and I HATE her already😂
Daaaamn.
DAMN! you just dropped a nuclear BOMB on the writer LMAO
The writers literally self inserted themselves into the show, and not the several times they gave themselves cameos like at the awards show.