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Absolute filth. go wash up haha
I love your channel I am a subscriber
Nicely done
If you weren't a dude they wouldn't have done it! Hard work is paying off. Keep working.
You need a different instructor bro. This guy will get you hurt.
Reporter: "So, Bob, how do you catch a knuckleball?" Bob Ueker: "You just wait for it to stop rolling and you pick it up."
"There are two ways to catch the knuckleball. They are both wrong."
I used to play softball with a guy who throw a NASTY knuckleball with a softball..Trying to warmup with this guy ..I only did it once..After getting hit in the chest...legs..Never warmed up with him again..ABOUT CAN'T CATCH THE DAM THING!
They dont move till theyre in the glove
I had a coach that would warm me up with the occasional knuckle. Trying to track that shit was impossible, it looks so weird coming at you.
@@groupersti I could throw a really mean one with a softball, but could never keep a baseball from moving a little too much.
I think everyone loves knuckleballs because they represent hope. This kid is topping out at 80 mph fastball, but his knuckleball could strike pros out.
Topping 86 on a normal day 😉
100%. Well said.
Yeah, it's like R.A. Dickey's knuckleball
@@bbdina14nice pitching! Hopefully tread post more of your pitching!
@andrewpoe7516Don't be an ass hat, the kid isn't lying. He knows what his fastest pitch is better than some angsty nobody on KZhead...
HOLY CRAP. That first knuckle had ZERO spin, it just floated and moved crazy. A ton of his tosses don't really move, that's SO HARD. I tried throwing knuckles for months and months and something always catches and it spins then it's just BP at the point. Mad respect to Knucklers.
Bro for real! That first knuckle would leave even the best pro hitters cross-eyed. That shit was nasty!
Knuckleballs aside, this is an interesting video to see the conversations you have w guys who aren't in the 'elite thrower' velo range, thanks for posting the longer/full pen vid!
“That was kinda sick” The catcher: kill me
This guy is an awesome coach. Positive, upbeat, clear instruction, interested in his players' progress. What a great influence for all these young guys. Also, hats off to the fella throwing those crazy knuckleballs. Hope he continues developing that pitch, along with his other stuff.
except, as a brit, what the hell does he know about baseball. This aint criket 😂
@@tijan8948 Ned Lasso?
@@tijan8948 I think he’s an Aussie dude lol
Definitely aussie.
@@lastsecondshot5779 is there a difference? And what the heck do they know about baseball 😝
I once struck out one of my best friends with 5 straight knuckleballs, even told him b4 the game that was all I was throwing to him. He never swung (swang) not sure, whatever, once. The last one was questionable as whether or not it was a strike but the ump wrang him up. His reaction was priceless as he flipped is helmet off immediately with his forearms and screamed at the ump "you gotta be kiddin me". I played baseball my whole life and that was probably my favorite moment. Always wanted to share that memory so thanks to all that read it. Im not trying to brag its just seeing a knuckleball video on YT that brought back fond memories. Good to see someone throwing that pitch, its deadly if you can control it, i could not, just got lucky against my good friend that day. ✌️✝️
Similar story, I went to a different High School than one of my best friends growing up. He caught for me for years, summer and travel ball. We used to spend entire weekends just hitting baseballs and pitching to one another. We finally faced each other senior year, and he knew every pitch I was going to throw all game long to every batter. I struck him out 3 times throwing 9 knuckleballs to him. One at bat I threw all 3 knuckleballs 6 inches above his eyes and he swung and missed at all 3 out of frustration. I pitched a 1 hit shutout and scored both of our runs in 2-0 victory. Even better is that I have the video tape because the people over the ballpark said I earned it.
Dude it’s so hard to throw with zero spin like that. What a beast.
Need some more knuckle ballers in the show, hope he makes it far
I love seeing the knuckleball gaining traction in popularity with the young players
Me too. I think the problem that will almost always exist though, is how hard it is to be consistent with it. I think this is why you have so few guys in pro ball throw it. Guys like RA Dickey and Wakefield are HUGE exceptions to the rule. But even then, they couldn't maintain long careers because even they lost that ability to maintain.
@@rmoultonrmoulton145Dickey lasted 17 years in the league
@@theleftuprightatsoldierfield But he didn't really develop that knuckle until is early to mid 30s though right? And then he had the Cy Young season and then another solid season or 2 after?
@@rmoultonrmoulton145 It's really tough on catchers too, and they generally have to have their own catcher. You could see how frustrated this kid was trying to catch them.
it's becasue you don't need to have a super strong arm to throw it.
The way it moves at the plate is just unfair. He's got an incredible weapon!
I’m handling my incredible weapon as we speak
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He’s throwing upper 70s. I’d be taking that shit to the moon
@@bowerthomas1078coach? Is that you?
@@shaunobrien7675 Against that lineup, nope
every video i have seen from these guys is awesome. Great coaching and some unbelievable talent. Those knuckleballs were gross
I love how he did this and said "rosin too sticky" avoiding bad habits. This pitch gonna cause some problems for them boys at the plate 🔥🔥
This coach's communication reminds me of my golf coach in my competition years. Clear, direct, and high yield; Great job gaff.
Awesome to see Knuckleballs are alive and well
so he has a 76mph knuckle and a 78mph fastball?! damn
I’m like mid 80 but I was out of it that day 😂
Nasty dude @@bbdina14
Awesome knuckleball! Interesting velo was down so much. I honestly thought you were barely trying based on how it looked those first few, so it made complete sense when he said what effort level are we at? I thought you were going to respond 75%. I just don't see that "oomph" or explosion. Do you have more of that on days you're at 86, or is it always a relaxed pitching motion? @@bbdina14
The catcher shaking his head says it all lol
Think what it would do with some wind. It makes them go,,, only God knows where.
I remember Tim Wakefield from the Red Sox playing a critical role for the Sox in those years. He served as irreplaceable role of chewing up innings whenever needed. Whenever a starter have a bad outing especially in a playoff series, manager could always rely on Wakefield to come in and keep damage to a minimum instead of sacrificing the entire bullpen and losing the series. Wake could pitch on one day rest, that knuckler was the heart of the Sox. This is when Pedro our Lord was there.
That's CRAZY the technology and coaching that goes into this!
One of my favorite knuckleball pitchers was Tim Wakefield. When he threw one in game it was like he was just lobbing it in, and dudes were swinging for the fence blind. Steady mid 70s everytime. Hope to see this guy on the big mound doing the same one day.
One of Boston’s beloved all time athletes. I miss him up here.
The slow-mow eyes when Sam sees how good the nuckle is great!
He's got the body of a legendary knuckler
I smiled through the entire knuckler segment, I must admit. Dude even has an unconventional grip. The late Tim Wakefield (RIP, still so young), used the tips of his middle and index fingers to directly "push" the ball off from under the horseshoe seam pattern of the ball. Here, Madison uses his index and middle finger sort of curled in on the seams of the ball (or even right next to the seams) to give the ball that "push." Very interesting!
I love the philosophy of the knuckle ball: if I don’t know where it’s going, neither do you.
I love this!! Knuckleball and Tread!
Protect this kid. Man we need more knuckleballers back in the game.
Think of how good this guy will be in a few years when he gets bigger and stronger... keep on working...
I would love to see that against a hitter. Coaches reaction after first one was awesome.
This catcher is like, "WTF, how am I supposed to catch these things?"
It's why the knuckle catchers mitt is larger than normal.
RA DICKEY won a CY YOUNG.. he led the NL in innnings pitched+ Strikeouts+ complete games+ shutouts.. Hes easily the best knuckle baller ever
An Australian Pitching coach...cool! As a former catcher, we had a guy that could throw a nasty knuckleball as well. I could not catch it. They purchased me a first basemen's glove to try and help...it helped a little but man when it's working it's tough to even catch much less hit.
The knuckle is a awesome weapon to have if you can control it, command looks like it’s getting there great stuff
70+ mph knuckleball is crazy. All old guys threw them in the 50-60 mph range with a slow stretch
Thats ultimate control, like starting at your feet and ending up at your fingertips, and dead spinning all the physics involved with a feeling. I dont even like baseball anymore but that video of his fingers makes the great pitchers of the past look even m9re insane if you could imagine seeing this footage with the MLB? Maybe i would watch again if this was real-time tech, to make the game less boring and show how it really works.
Always wanted to work my knuckleball in in college. Was sitting 94 and topping 97 but could throw my knuckleball around 84 and either force it to tumble or with no spin. Cool seeing trackman come into baseball. We had the probatter in high school and that was beyond cool back then.
Tips ?
In a galaxy far, far away a long time ago, I was playing second base and a knuckleball was hit right to me. It's weird, with no spin, the ball appears to be moving like a butterfly--kind of hopping around, veering off to one side. You have to experience one to actually know. I almost didn't make the catch. From the stands it looked like a routine 'comebacker'. It was a tough catch to make.
Sky high infield pop ups will do the same thing it's an automatic drop the first time you get one of those
i had a coach who was a elite pitcher once upon a time. while playing catch he would sometimes throw in a knuckleball. they are ridiculous and the camera does not do it justice
The "uncontrollable and untamed" pitch. 😅
Problem is it’s super hard to control and have a feel for it. If you throw it too fast or too slow l it’s basically a practice pitch for hitters to homerun
Hope this kid makes it and has a long career somewhere. Knuckleballers can pitch 9 every other day and stay in the league until they're 50.
What you’ll notice is that the knuckleball’s initial motion is *slightly* predictable. A well thrown knuckleball spins very little if at all… but what it does is to revolve around its trajectory. It’s nearly impossible to tell where it will fall out of that revolution, which is what makes it so difficult to hit or catch, but that’s what it’s doing. Go watch slo-Mo vid of RA Dickey’s best, and you’ll see it clearly.
When people gather at practice to watch, it’s good. Nice job!
This guy's knuckler gives him potential. The arm is not live, perfect for a knuckleballer. I didn't have a live arm either, and relied on changing speeds, location, and a screwball.
I read an article in Sports Illustrated (which used to be a GREAT magazine) about Wilbur Wood and I spent 12 months teaching myself how to throw the dancing bear. After a while my friends would not play catch with me if I threw knucklers. I was a pretty decent pitcher who had zero fastball.
slider is solid too. just need a little more velo on the fastball
Inside lighting is super different too I’m sure they pitch much better indoors vs batters
Ah the knuckleball, one of the few pitches I haven't been able to fully get a hang of spin wise.
As a long time sox fan it was always a Pleasure when Tim Wakefield was on the mound
Looking good, recovering nicely I hope.
I wish I had a facility like this when I was coming up. This has probably driven so many players to their full potential.
The knuckleball is definitely a lost art!! Good to see they arent completely lost.
catcher was bewildered
Back in HS I faced a pitcher that had a knuckleball. I was a good hitter, (had D1 offers) he threw that knuckle ball with 2 strikes and it just froze me, didn't even wait for the ump to punch me out, just started the walk of shame, 35 years later I'm still baffled by that pitch.
I perfected an underhand knuckleball softball pitch. I could also curve it in using the knuckleball, it was deadly.
deadliest combo.. fast ball 98mph and the knuckler at 75.... batters get so pissed off.
The coach is an Aussie! So funny for another Australian like me to hear the accent on a baseball video
These programs should have the ability to predict how hitters at different levels would hit a certain pitch. it would be super neat to see: div1 hitters: X, AAA-ball: Y, average-MLB: Z, MVP-level MLB: XXX
Amazing what coaches can do, knowledge and tech in 10 years there won't be any records left.
I'm hopping pitchers don't loose this pitch is part of baseball and we should try to keep it alive 💪
For the uninitiated, can we get an explanation of what the red, blue, and grey dots mean on the analysis screen?
I wish I could help but I’m colorblind
Those are the pitch types. Black = FB Red = 2S Blue = Slider
The best part is when the catcher misses the ones right over the plate. Not being able to predict the flight is CRAZY.
Man that poor catcher is thinking "why did I volunteer for this"???
You want to have everyone in the world rooting for you to make it, become a knuckler.
by the 3rd knuckle, catcher just totally gave up. Somebody once asked Bob Uecker how to catch a knuckle ball. "Wait until it stops rolling, then go pick it up."
4:07 that dog was about to stake his claim on that bullpen!
Hope you thank your catcher after these sessions! Dude was questioning life one pitch in 😂
Fun to watch 99 mph that moves 8", but way more fun to see 73mph and looks like Elaine Betiss dancing and the catcher can't handle it..soooo sick. 😢 thanks for all these great videos..
On top of a knuckleball being a nasty pitch, it's also great for career longevity - you have a strikeout pitch that you don't need to throw 100 mph, and it saves the arm a bunch of trouble. No snap of the wrist or anything, and you can't predict where it's going to go, even if you see it coming. Just a dangerous pitch to have in the kit
If it’s HIGH let it FLY; if it’s LOW let it GO!
Man I wish I would have had a trainer like this growing up especially with this technology
Every catchers worst nightmare 😂
When I got the opportunity to pitch, I mostly used the knuckleball. I was able to K 6 in two innings. I got it to drop like an anvil. That's when it was doing what I wanted it to do. When it was bad, it hung in the zone and got tattooed. So I gave up 1 ER on 3 hits. The pitch is a double-edged sword.
Rohan peeking through in the back
My favorite pitch by far
I kind of "push" the ball away from me. I never turn my hand. I am not sure if that's the correct way, but my catchers say there is no spin at all. And it looks very scary because the ball wobbles.
To be fair, when I looked at the fast balls and sliders, I was thinking I could put my bat head on them easily. But then, that knuckle ball was just nasty.
I havent searched yet, but I'd be really interested to see them working with a sidearm pitcher working on a crossfire delivery.
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The knuckleball is so underrated.
The knuckle ball. For those situations when “you don’t know what I’m gonna do bc neither do I” is a chance you’re willing to take.
Dogs love knuckleballs took me out. 😂😂
Best part is watching the catcher trying to catch it.
너클볼을 던지기 위해서 손목을 90도로 고정시키고 손바닥을 계속 포수쪽으로 향하게 하는게 좋은가요?
He's already better than Dennis Springer
an australian coaching baseball is crazy lol
The fact that a good catcher is struggling to catch these pitches...just imagine how hard it would be to hit!
That guy is crazy love the videos
That first knuckle was an absolute Glitch in the Matrix
75 mph knuckle w/no spin, is the coolest pitch ever.
Step dad played for the reds told me pull down light a light switch on a knuckle ball ! Sickest pitch in the game
Yup just like a curve
I once threw a knuckle ball that was the slowest ball maybe 40 mph just enough to get to plate. It had zero spin and danced 6"s in every direction and moving that slow the catcher missed it. The ball look like it was in slow motion all the to plate.I never did repeat that throw.
I threw one like that when I was just fooling around playing catch. Never could duplicate it. Unbelievable movement.
Bro I thought dog was a banner pop up for an ad at first.
My 11 year old loves throwing knuckleballs in Little League, struck out so many batters
The catcher, every time 😵💫😲🧐
Goodluck my man
“Even dogs love knuckleballs”
Knuckleballs are a high wire act. Its either amazing or it's death
Poor catcher clearly has not caught many knuckles.
A good change up, is worth its weight in gold.
With no change in speed his fast ball is going yard every time in the pros
A properly thrown knuckleball should make 1 to 1.5 times rotation to get the best movement.