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Modern space exploration and the global competition to Mars sparks civil and military innovation.
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#Mars #Space #Military
seeing all the comments that are against space exploration make me sad. There is so much medial technology, communication, advanced materials, and transportation technology that was made possible by the Apollo missions in the 1960s. We innovate through competition, and people still want to turn away from space. Imagine all that we could develop and discover through exploration of Mars, and imagine the peaceful competition it would enable through competition with China, instead of turning our resources to war. Mars is the most exciting opportunity this century, and people still try to turn it into billionaires vs us argument. I for one am excited to see NASA work towards mars missions in the 2030s, GO NASA!
It's just further evidence that most people don't deserve the comforts they enjoy.
It's just not feasible! 🤷🏾♂️ and we are not ment to live on mars, God created us for the EARTH! That's it
Then there are the G0dd@mn @$$H0L3$ who think human space exploration is "unnecessary" because we can just send "robots" NO. The human race has an obligation to go to these places. It is NOT satisfactory to ONLY rely on robots.
Need to Take Care of Our Planet First!! Otherwise we will be just a Virus to whatever we find out there!! True!!
@@iamBlackGambit God doesn’t exist. 😂 Imagine still believing in a god in the 21st century
A lot of people don’t realize that the space race is the reason why we have so much new technology that has changed the lives of everyone on earth for the better. Without time periods like the Industrial Revolution , space race, etc our world would look so much different and probably not in a good way . We would probably have no medical imaging techniques, durable healthcare equipment, artificial limbs, water filtration systems, solar panels, firefighting equipment, shock absorbers, air purifiers, home insulation, weather resistant airplanes, infrared thermometers, etc
I was going to comment something similar! So much revolutionary tech birthed from the space division. I wish more people could see all the positives out of it...
These anti-space fools will one day suffer the humiliation of being proven dead wrong
People don't realize how much technology we take for granted in our everyday lives is a product of warfare.
@@aliensoup2420 Just think how much more technology would exist if our focus was pure research with the goal of advancing into space, and exploration of the solar system instead of new ways to annihilate ourselves into oblivion along with this beautiful planet.
Dang 😮… that’s a lot of stuff !!
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If we loose the desire to explore, we have lost our humanity.
We’re losing people here. right now my guy ….
The difference between going to the moon and going to Mars is like the difference between going to the convenience store on the corner and doing a cross country road trip, but in space.
Try this. We can get to the Moon and back in less than a week. The roundtrip to Mars would be at leat 2+ years, if the people could have food and water for that time, and not get sick.
It’s less likely that you get shot on a road trip though.
@@wordwarrior2350 it's not a problem. 5 people * 10 liter a day * 730 days = 36,5 tons of water. 1 space ship can easily carry 100 tons to mars. (ofc you don't need that much water, because 80% of the water will be recycled.)
@@24AK Please think of it this way: You can´t even write a proper sentence with a capital letter at the beginning, the proper use of commas, and a period at the end, but you are a Mars, (With a small "m".), expert. By the way the round trip would take more like three years and there are other things like food and exposure to possible diseases, Etc. Did you volunteer? I doubt it. You have to get a HS diploma first, right?
@@arealperson641 Where did you get that information? Maybe if the road trip is through South America or Africa. Please try to get your facts straight. I would much rather drive from El Paso to Argentina than blast off on a rocket for a R/T to Mars. Ask an expert for the real figures. Give them my example. By the way, I can carry guns and bodyguards, actually two good looking women who love me, with bullet proof vests to Argentina and buy a bullet proof car. add that in Genius. NASA will prepare the way they do, so I can prepare the way I want to, right?
What do you think Optimus is for? Send robots to mars to build the habitats and life support before man goes to mars.
Optimus prime. 🤣
It needs to work first..... Stop dreaming
@@Batman-vr6jp this just the beginning or beta stage
If spaceX can land a 100 foot lawn dart from space on a platform in the middle of Oceane, don't you think they can make robots that can make mars possible?
That’s a much better plan but given how little atmosphere and gravitation Mars has people simply won’t be able to survive there. No magnetosphere, either.
This seems more about US vs Them than. Science.
Good job NBC. A rare example of high integrity journalism covering the mostly successful SpaceX test, when I thought that wasn't a thing any more.
Lol why do you all buy this nonsense? They’ve been telling us we would be taking rocket taxis to space in 2012. They are lyinggggg. Every year they say ‘we are 15 years away’
Mostly successful😂. That “mostly” is doing serious lifting.
@@tatata1543 nah. Primary goal as stated was to clear the launch pad, and then learn from whatever happens next. That happened successfully. Nobody involved thought of it as a failure, other than a bit more damage to the launch pad than expected. But then the plans for a better launch pad were already in the works.
@@Seehart The launchpad was wrecked, they tried and failed to blow the rocket up after it went completely out of control soon after launch and now both the FAA and Spacex are being taken to court. Characterizing that as a “success” is Musk levels of spin. Ignore all the fanboys cheering like idiots and have a look at Musk’s reaction when it eventually blew up, that’s not the reaction of a guy looking at success.
Actual journalism, what a concept
3:30 - "Only the US, Russia, and China have successfully landed robotic rovers." Incorrect. Two Russian robotic rovers may have reached the surface of Mars in 1971 during the Soviet Mars 2 and 3 missions, but neither vehicle completed its mission. Mars 2 crash-landed on the planet (rover destroyed), and Mars 3 ceased transmissions 20 seconds after landing (Rover never deployed). Neither of these can be called "successful".
the us public simply won't have the sustained support for space exploration unless they say China and/or Russia is also doing it (better when both are doing or have done it). Twisting the truth a little bit is a small price to pay.
@@xiangyuanpeng8120 That's very true - they come right out and say it in this NBC report. We would not have made it to the Moon if were not in a race with Russia. Now it's Mars, and we're in a much friendlier competition with China - but it's still a race. The US has experience, but China is a technological and manufacturing powerhouse, and is gaining rapidly. China expects to walk on the Moon by 2030. The next 10 years are going to be exciting times - US and China moonbases first, and then on to Mars.
@@ianbruce9603 there is news recently coming out from SCMP china already in production in factory for their EXPENDABLE rocket to Catch up of SpaceX Reusable rocket capacity and building their own Constellation. So they already planned to make 52 rocket in a year. Mind you they are not reusable so it had higher cost and it seems China can afford that and their Reusable rocket technology was still in development so probably the reason for the factory meanwhile the building the Reusable Technology.
very professional comment,
Russians had successful missions to Venus!
anyone remember "Orion", The building sized spaceship that was going to fire mini nukes out the back end and detonate them to impart force onto a plate that would then push the craft forward?
Yeah. They interviewed the son of the main scientist on that project and he claimed a different reason it was canceled. He said they developed a way to make cheap nukes very easily and they were afraid that tech would leak out. If true I'm guessing that is the reason fusion energy went from "10 years away" to 60+ and counting. The issue with fusion is creating the environment to start the reaction, the scientists at the time envisioned using mini atom bombs to create the reaction. That seems to have been taken away as an option.
I saw that being used before in the docu movie Evacuate Earth.
I would be incredibly excited to see a human on mars. i am jealous of my parents and grandparents who got to experience the moon mission. I feel like it would be amazing to observe that.
Give it till 2030 people will be on mars probably
You think it would be amazing to watch humanity’s best and brightest die horrifically slow and painful deaths?
@@chikapunk4340No, they won’t.
@@shacktime why don’t you think so
Oh, I don't think you should envy them lol. I mean, c'mon, sure they got some cool moon landings but they got them in incredibly poor quality - plus, for 50 years, they never did it again. Also, you can observe that!! Artemis 3 is landing on the moon in 2025, sending 2 humans to the surface.
60 years later,we learn about it. And in another 60 years,we'll hear about the Starship Enterprise.😊
maybe you just learnt about it, but we learnt about Nerva in highschool in the 90s. It really wasn't a secret
Zero chance of that.
Space Shuttle Enterprise: 🗿
Our true purpose is to reach for the stars. The human race must become multi-planetary. We'll also adapt to space in a 100 years.
true. evolution can be very fast sometimes. Doesn't always take millions of years to do it
@@ClockMaster_3100 Yep it can happen fast. There was a documented case this century when scientists were able to observe a new species of bird evolve. I imagine is a baby is born and raised in space or on mars it will have minor adaptations that make it better suited to survive there. When those people reproduce their offspring will have even more.
@@Bitchslapper316 just look at the astronauts on the space station and how they change up there
@@Bitchslapper316 yea the only unfortunate side of that is that person would never be able to visit earth or any high gravity world because their bodies would be adapted to a low gravity environment. Well unless they can condition themselves
I agree. I don't believe we can just randomly go back and forth to different planets for long periods. We will mostly stay in the place we are adapted to live in. Martians may become a different species. We may even use science to change human DNA for life in space. It's illegal now but if China starts colonizing space with enhanced people, you better believe the US will follow suit to not get left behind.
Space X is in the lead, and I don’t think there is competition.
Imagine how much more Musk could do if the Biden admin wasn't trying to ruin the guy due to a difference of opinions.
SpaceX is in the lead but the race isn't over. There is the moon, then Mars then martian colony. All are difficult. All are a competition. When this is done, there will be new races
Considering the amount of problems their raptor engines have, they are leading the back of the line. Every single milestone date they presented has failed.
@@rebelcrusader9973 What? no one comes close to Space X. Have you looked into the process they use? Not sure how they are leading the back when literally everyone even Chinese companies are just copying Elon's ideas.
@Rebel Crusader He has high hopes, they are still doing a ton and having success. Raptors are getting better and most are not the newest models same as the ship. Give it some time, rockets are hard. Look at all the success Falcon has
Some things are about more than what we might physically be able to see in OUR lifetime. I *may* personally never benefit from any of this, but I think it’s important, it’s cool, and seeing it makes the inner nerd in me happy.
WE WILL NEVER LIVE IN PEACE AMOUNG THE STARS UNTIL WE LEARN TO LIVE IN PEACE HERE ON EARTH...
Hmmm 🤔
Among
why does the media keep characterizing the first flight of Starship a failure? They seem to have no clue that real rocket development proceeds step by step with rapid iterations, including failures. You need to push the envelop to succeed.
True, the Starship test was a unqualified success. A failure would have been a big explosion on the launch pad.
They are still mad he bought Twitter and stopped the censorship of Americans. The left doesn't like Elon because he believe in free speech. Super weird how that works and how they try to make him out to be some crazy MAGA shill. Nothing wrong with MAGA but he isn't a republican last time I checked.
I hate the argument of "we are pouring so much money into space". NASA is working with less than .5% of the total US budget and seems to be able to do more than 95% of government funded programs. Space exploration is the future of humanity and restricting mankind to one planet would be a sin. We spent 2.3 trillion in Afghanistan, a war that only brought death and suffering for no reason. The same budget would be able to fund NASA and space exploration (at 2023's budget of 23 billion) for almost 85 years. Just think of that...
How is that .5 can you explain?
@@azeem5471 The United States budget is 7 trillion dollars while NASA’s budget is 23 billion.
Also, the most serious large-scale Mars plans are not from Nasa but from SpaceX, which is paying from it's own pockets (mostly through monthly subscriptions of Starlink customers).
@@jwstolkaceX's Mars plan is stupid and they know it. They can't be serious when they show how to get to mars will require 7 rockets, one to land and 6 to store fuel - all because space x is using 100 year old technology. You want to go to mars you invent new engines that use new fuels that's what space x should be doing, that's what nasa is doing. A nuclear rocket engine can be used to travel back and forth between earth and mars for 20 years and make the trip in half the time, space x requires 7 rockets to get to mars and 3 to get back on each trip. And to do this Space X needs so much fuel that almost all rocket fuel the United stars can manufacture will need to be sent direct to space x
If humanity is able to successfully land on Mars it will be the start of a new era which is the exploration of space and colonizing new planets
When first humans land on Mars,it will be incredibly uplifting for the entire human race. Might even encourage us to cooperate more instead of fight with our petty little differences. Space exploration needs the resources of ALL of the people on the Earth. We all need to unite.
I know our species needs something to rally around
@@ClockMaster_3100 Thanks for the reply man.I agree.
We should be exploring Uranus right now
Uranus has been deeply probed.
We cant just push a rocket deep in Uranus.
at this rate, we are not gonna see the manned exploration of the outer solar system until the late 21st century
"We are running out of space and the only places to go to are other worlds. It is time to explore other solar systems. Spreading out may be the only thing that saves us from ourselves. I am convinced that humans need to leave Earth." Stephen Hawking
we arent running out of space, colonizing deserts, under the oceans and the poles would be easier than living in space......such an ignorant quote.
@@eabutler6861 Are you Stephen Hawking? I don't think so
@@justinratcliffe947 On Earth, ALL our eggs, literally, are in one basket - one KT sized asteroid (or nuclear war) away from extinction. The more we spread out, the greater our chance of surviving as a species. If the West gives up on Space - we can live under the thumb of the Chinese military space stations and lunar station, trapped on earth in a dystopian hellscape.
@@justinratcliffe947 it was a quote dude... Like seriously... No one should have to say that to you. Lol
Running out of space? 😂😂😂 Drive across Canada ffs. We got space.
Glad to be alive to see this! ✊🏻
I was 12 years old when Neil Armstrong took that step into history. It was 9:50 P.M. CDT
Bro, that means i can see the first man to actually go to mars live. Just like when the whole world watched as us humans first land on the moon. This is exciting to see and patiently.
It won't be live though because of the light-speed transmission lag and we may not even have the interplanetary data bandwidth to do a livestream. We don't have it right now, certainly.
@@Andreas-gh6is if they gonna do this they gonna have to find away for technology to transmitt that far back to us if not then this iwill be known as a suicidle mission
So, my great, great, great grandson might come to earth for a vacation, if it's still here and livable.
Hopefully it will be.
earth will always be more livable than mars.
Or, by then, he might say, "Earth? What a sh-thole!" (actor Ron Pearlman's line in the last "Aliens" movie).
A negative greeny no doubt ? So sad !
I'm not an optimist about the Human Mars mission, but even I think that the 2030ies are a reasonable timeframe for the first manned landing on Mars. Starship is going to be revolutionizing the orbital lift business by then, and that means even a very conventional manned mission is possible. But by 2040 I would think multiple unmanned Starships would reach Mars during every window.
Btw, SpaceX's "Starships", are simply conventional, liquid-fueled, chemical rockets, that explode quite often.
Sure thing, they haven't even launched yet. This is all such a pipe dream. But musk said it so here we are😂😂
@@joshlewis575 What are you on about, you might want to catch up, it launched over a month ago for it's first TEST flight...
lol. Musk is a product of zero % lending. his starships are just a con job.
@@rjswasand they still have 5-10 years of engineering challenges to solve. You’re obviously an arm chair aerospace engineer.
people say "unite and we can do so much together as a species" but competing against each other has proven it'll advance human innovation just for the sake of being better than others. That's what a space race is, competition.
It’s kinda sad that the only thing that seems to be able to get humans to mars is to do it before other humans. I wish we could do this as one species.
It is your nature to be tribal. That will never change.
@@hawkdsl that is true
USA!
Yes, It -although sadly- makes you wish for a conflict for the sake of scientific innovation.
If we ever make contact with another species on a different planet, they won't care if we are Americans, Chinese, Russian or Irish. They will only see us as various types of humans...just as their race may have variations. So yes, to other species on other planets, we are one species. We are the ones who make the separation of various countries.
I am truly excited about this future to come. I hope to live too see all these changes.
15:09 nice interaction. These guys really seem to be close. The human side of news. Love it.
I want a For All Mankind Timeline!!!
Bro that writers room called it
Yeah, my parents lived to see the first man on the moon, I would like to see another small step for mankind in my lifetime. Even if we can colonize the moon. I think Mars is a big leap. I feel if man can feel comfortable with commuting to the moon, it will make it better to go to mars. Cause I really would like to see the moon as a destination for civilization in my lifetime.
Way better than the one we got for sure. My little sister is 50 and no one has gone beyond LEO in her lifetime. They making a 4th season of FAM?
We need a moon base!
At my age, growing up with the original "space race" with Russia, it's hard to believe we still haven't established a moon base. We've spent the last 50 years stuck in low Earth orbit.
They have moon bases already lads. They are just drip feeding us
@@kenhoward3512 what's even more ridiculous is that we have had the technology to build one since the 90s
@@ClockMaster_3100 Even earlier. The U.S army had their engineers design and lay out the plans for a moon base that would house 20 soldiers and have a garage full of vehicles. The issue was the cost was enormous. It would have taken something like 100 saturn 5 launches.
That’s the plan with Artemis the current program
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the moon is so much more closer than Mars that it would be stupid to not perfect your interplanetary technology on the closest planet/moon first. It would also take a lot less time to send help if needed. I'd feel much better about my kids having their first camping experience outside in a tent be in the backyard than the next state over.
Which is why that is the plan. It’s called Artemis
Any rocket scientist would look at delta-V instead of distance. If you take into account that Mars has a thin atmosphere that can be used to slow down, Earth to Mars only requires a bit more delta-V than Earth to Moon. I agree with sending help is easier when traveling to the Moon, but if you send 10 ships to Mars at the same time, there are 9 that can provide help. And SpaceX is planning to send not 10 but 1000's every time Earth and Mars line up. They won't be alone.
@@perspective8369 NASA's initial overall plan, anyway. I think we have at least a half or more century of (hopefully, largely scientific) business to do on the Moon, first, before we ever send actual people to Mars.
@@jwstolk How is it that Mars's very thin atmosphere makes it easier to slow down?
@@samr.england613 the drag slows it down by a lot
0:54 "NASA thinks it can get astronauts, human beings on the M-- on Mars.." 🤣
This was a success we gained so much date from this mission to make the next one BETTER 😎😎😎
First humans on Mars by 2060??!!?? There will be Chinese restaurants in 30 different places on the planet waiting for us.
You jest now. But you're probably not far off the mark.
@@AntonioPerez-zk2mb Someone needs to start seeing obvious solutions. We need to go to one of the Mars moons FIRST! Set up a base. From there, we can have humans living in a protective area either dug in, or there may be depressions that can be roofed. Once that's done, we send in the Robots to the surface. The distance from Mars's moon to the surface at laser light speed would be fine for the teli-operators living on Phobos.
I remember NERVA - K (I’m 70) we could have had this a long time ago Kids.
Spinning up an hollowed out asteroid has the problem that most asteroids would just fly apart from the centrifugal forces. You'd need one that is very solid.
Forgive me I'm not a Astro physicist, but I've always wondered why NASA doesn't just use robots to prefab a ship yard in orbit. They can use or reuse the rockets to get there and back but the new heavy duty rockets would be at a ship yard in orbit as a midway point
They haven’t done it yet but they want to! It’s called isam: in-space servicing assembly and manufacturing
For some reason Nasa has a really tight budget
Did he literally ask the lady from NASA what it was and then answer his own question? Yikes
Love you chuck, I love space so thank you for a very informative segment,see you Sunday on meet the press 😂 lol
10 years ago we were supposed to be on Mars in 2023 lol
I find two points very interesting about mainstream media. 1. The floor under StarShip was damaged not the whole launchpad As reported! 2. No mention of the staggering cost of SLS or financial sustainability of a disposable rocket, despite the fact that the SLS is built from recycled parts and technologies from the space shuttle. One might be sensing a biased here? Or is it a totally destroy launchpad increases advertising revenue.
Is this the behind the scenes special for the new Expanse prequels?
I can't wait to start my supermarket on Mars .
Mars Rover is actually on an island in Canada.
I'll believe it when we get there.
Correction: the only Russian (then Soviet) success was when Mars 3 landed and lasted a few second and the PROP-M crawler launch from M3 is unconfirmed.
Correct. Mars 2 crash-landed on the planet (rover was destroyed), and Mars 3 ceased transmissions 20 seconds after landing (Rover was never deployed). China, however, nailed it on their first mission, so major props to them. Mars ain't easy. Mars eats landers for lunch.
@@ianbruce9603 China is standing on the shoulders of giants with decades of space advancements from different nations. Mars 3 craft was literally the first to land, give them a break. They had to actually invent this technology.
@@Michael-it6gb I don't disagree with that. And that said, Russia's Venera probes and landers for Venus were an unquestioned and unparalleled success - they just haven't had the same luck with Mars.
"You see men sailing on their ego trip; blast off on their spaceship. Million miles from reality; no care for you, no care for me." -So Much Trouble In The World, Bob Marley
Ms. Smith and Dr. Frank were great guests! Very informative. Thx for having them on to speak.
It was a self destruct by SpaceX plus they only gave it a 50% chance of making it to orbit. The ship performed better than expected actually. Its just one of *many prototype* ship combos. They will make it. Just look at their Falcon rockets that did similar things during development. Now Falcon returns back to earth and lands o a dime every single time. I've never heard of a plan to use both traditional engines and nuclear. I keep a watch for developments by watching SpaceX, other video channels etc. This is the first time I've heard this plan.
That's nonsense, Falcon 9 had a very streamlined development that used standard methods and designs, the only aspect of iterative development was the booster landing and recovery, which is something that's always secondary, after the two stages do their job and get payload to orbit, which is its base design and purpose. It had no failures in first flights, and I also heard that not only do none of the people working on Starship worked on F9 before, they never worked on any launch vehicle. These F9 comparisons that are propagandized everywhere hold no water whatsoever as they're nothing but false equivalence fallacies. Starship IFT was nothing but a failure to anyone who doesn't drink the coolade and knows their stuff. Like for everything, having a measure and a balance is key, and going all out on iterative development from scratch, making the core design is not looking good at all, they're going overboard with it. Even an ex-SpaceX veteran Ben Kellie called the flight crappy and a failure. There's a fine line between crappy and scrappy. The general management of this project has been inadequate, impulsive, and shortsighted. I predict it will end up either something unrecognizable from what it is currently and planned, or a total failure. Time will tell.
And you are an expert at WHAT? Making excuses for E. Musk?
@@wordwarrior2350 and I suppose that you have extensive knowledge about rocketry, in particular SpaceX and the Starship development system. I guess you know better than the Whole of SpaceX because you’ve watch a few notable televised NASA missions. What they described is what has been observed and communicated by SpaceX and the community of people observing them from the start of the program. This is exactly what was expected by the hardcore space nerd.
spacex is gonna go bankrupt before they ever get to mars, probably the moon.
Musk is CLOWNSHOES 🤡🤡🤡 LOL
IMO the problem isn't going to be the space ship. The real challenge is exposing human beings to 4 to 6 months of hardcore radiation from the sun and getting them there healthy and able to do work.
We know how to shield people from radiation. It shouldn't be an insurmountable problem.
@@xChemistryFTWx And there's that Mushy Musk Mind "it's so easy!". The Joe Rogan Idiocracy is here now and
we routinely keep astronauts on the ISS for 6 months on end. Yes these missions are still in earth's magnetic field, but we do have a lot of expereince and data on long term effects of people in space, and through Artemis, we will get a lot of expereince with crewed exploration outside of Earth's magnetic field. The radiation is bad, but not nuclear melt down bad. Honestly, the largest problem we have is keeping astronauts mentally healthy through the mission's duration.
@Java It is easy. Radiation shielding is well understood.
You forgot to mention how totally great for human health zero G is. The low gravity of Mars will work wonders for the health of the Astronauts. After a year of one third Earth gravity those astronauts will be in fabulous physical shape. I bet they will all be competing in weight lifting contests when they get back to Earth.
The term "spage age" used to mean something. Everyone knew that because we were going to space and had all this new technology coming from the efforts to go there, that was all the rage and it was common knowledge and pride in America for it.
If the foundations of your house are eroding you don't take long journeys for holidays or to examine new places. You focus on your home and manage the harms that affect it before allocating funds and time on other things.
I'd be happy to make a one-way trip to Mars, and we need to get to Mars to start building a new home for our country
It would be cheaper and easier to build a bunker habitat on the south pole that would survive virtually anything short of an asteroid directly hitting it.
@@Andreas-gh6isI agree. Mars is a dead world.
This is not possible. Even if you built a dome, the quality of life would be terrible.
@@basketballbicker8933 still better than anything on Mars. It's way cheaper to bring in construction materials so you can basically construct any kind of building Humans already spend their time in. The sun can even be used as a direct heat source, as well as indirect. Of course, the quality of life may be a little less. Better than no life at all though, and the point of that habitat is to survive when the rest of the Earth is unsurvivable....
@@Andreas-gh6is I agree. If we have to live in a dead world, better it be one we are already on and have infinite knowledge about.
every time i see a major news publisher use stock sci-fi images and renders when reporting on science or space developments, i lose a year from my life. i have a few months left
LOL
4:13 i was starring at my man's eye browse for the entire time 😂
Right!!! Thats the right question if we put our heads together we would be able to figure it out!!!
Mars looks like one big desert
Without oxygen
It is
And they haven't even tried living under water yet.
No Plant Life 🌳
The thinking is, That humanity isn't putting all its eggs in one basket so to speak, if something were to happen to earth, Humanity wouldn't go extinct. Super volcano, Nuclear war, War, Pollution, etc
Please. A base on the moon has to be established first and that's a ways away.
It is the slowest race ever!
Imagine if they all just got together we would be head to mars right now
Dear NBC please listen to what SpaceX said before the flight. We were not expecting to land it.
I dont think SpaceX were expecting to destroy it in a few minutes.
SpaceX can deliver such big loads to orbit that lifting up six nuclear powered craft that always remain in space but can act like a taxi service in a conveyor belt method of autonomous craft to Mars taking supplies while bringing cargo lifted from Earths surface with a Starship could make this project a simple way to maintain a Martian base as well as a Moon base.
Getting there first is pointless being able to STAY first for as long as you want or need is the real goal that has value.
the US have 5,582 space-focused companies, almost ten times more than the next country, the UK, which has 615, And there are more than 10,000 total, globally. Most of the 10,000 + companies are clustered in just five sectors, company regional distribution...the US has 52.1%, china has only 2.7%. The U.S. government’s space budget is almost $41 billion, $23.3 billion of which is focused on NASA. China has the next-largest budget at just under $6 billion, reportedly, followed by Russia, France, and Japan with budgets in the $3-4 billion range. The United States spends more on space than all other countries combined, with its budget exceeding the next 15 nations spending by a wide margin.
That isn’t taking into account Purchasing Power Parity which accounts for costs if labor, matériels, and utilities in different countries. With that it evens things out a little more, but the US is still far in the lead by spending and provides the vast majority of space services.
It's not 41 billion, it's under 20. You're counting space force and spending which is military and used for things like military satellites and LEO warfare. China and Russia also expend an enormous amount of resources on the same thing. They also don't disclose their expenditures on it.
@@Bitchslapper316 He pointed out the separation clearly I thought. His point was the total space budget, which naturally includes Space Force.
@@hawkdsl That's not a space exploration budget though. Space force deals with military satellites which are used to support the military on earth. NASA is space exploration. He doesn't know what other countries spend on military satellites because it's a military expenditure and they don't publish it. China has as many satellites in orbit as the U.S has so we can automatically conclude they expend similar resources doing it.
Imagine how much more would have been done if NASA hadn't wasted so much time and billions on "others" like Boeing failing to deliver all while Musk was well ahead. Biden didn't even invite Elon to the white house for EVs and Tesla is the best. They don't seem to like him. Also, the biggest issue the US faces when it comes to Tech/IP is CCP espionage. Chinese spies have already been caught trying to steal nuclear research secrets. The government isn't very good at stopping spies and the US loses nearly 1 trillion yearly in tech espionage. My fear is that we will develop everything just to have them steal it and pour billions more to make sure they win. Honestly, China has 50 hackers for every 1 in the west. They are bleeding us dry and unfortunetly some western companies just sell or transfer it over which is how they have caught up.
“So it is not surprising that some would have us stay where we are a little longer to rest, to wait. But this city of Houston, this State of Texas, this country of the United States was not built by those who waited and rested and wished to look behind them. This country was conquered by those who moved forward--and so will space.” - John F. Kennedy
a race that benefits mankind
Mars can teach us about how to live on Earth. If we find liquid water under the surface of Mars we will probably need desalination technologies to be able to turn large quantities of salt water into something drinkable for low energy cost. If fresh water become abundant all over our planet then we could regrow the deserts and turn barely viable land into a green oasis.
Outstanding reporting on something Good. Maybe it will work, maybe not,. .but. It's outer space. Only little, pale, green aliens get upset.
The human race is absurd.. It's unfortunate that people have not discovered that by working together, we would most likely be working on getting to one of Saturn's moons by now...
If you listen to Nelson continuing his demonizing every single success in Chinese space program, you think it is possible?!!
competition is natural, it is impossible for all of us to work together in harmony.
Yes, I totally agree with Mr. Dreadstone that competition is good and natural. I'm just so sick and tired of constantly hearing someone(Nelson) demonizing someone else's effort in space. You can call them competition if you like. Russians and Chinese are humans too. Why is their effort always considered evil and military-related and only the effort of NASA is considered benign, innocent and for the good of all human kind?!!
Sun and moon stars rain 🌧️ rises before me... Jamaica sky
Great news article thank you. Been waiting a long time since 69 for us to make another bold move into space.
Same
Colonizing Mars is very possible and affordable with existing conventional fuels. But adding unnecessary complexity of using nuclear engines is the best way to make sure it will never happen. Maybe nuclear rockets will outperform conventional rockets in 75 years, but it won't play a role in colonizing Mars.
I agree, could be a worthy investment for the long term, but in the current context, it almost feels like a sideline to extend the time-clock further.
The first thing Mars needs is several artificial magnetic field craft wobbling around at the L1 Lagrange point. That way anything done that might affect it's atmosphere is not as easily lost to the solar winds. Strategically placed reflective material on Phobos tidally locked side to Mars will produce extra light and heat to Mars. Some material from Phobos and Deimos could be lobbed to Mars via catapult rovers on those moon. Dark regolith could be sent to absorb more light and help to increase Mars mass. Mass drivers built on the poles of our moon could one day help to send water, materials and mass to Mars. A mass driver built on the poles of Ceres could help to send Nitrogen, water, and other substances to Mars.
this guy knows what's up, based megaproject enjoyer
I feel like an artificial magnetic field for a planet isn’t quite realistic is it? I mean right now, like next few decades. I certainly hope we do something like that one day. I think it was kurzgesagt who did a video on terraforming mars
welcome to year 3023
@@finn54123 It's actually not that hard (Diameter of Mars is smaller than Earth) It can be done with existing superconducting technology and powered by solar. About 4 or 5 loops of wire around Mars can make a small field that is sufficient. Try making a compass an you'll find out that Earths magnetic field is actually also very weak.
Phobos and Deimos are just a few km wide so there is not much mass to catapult into mars
2:47 They said 2030 last time lol
It's always in the 'future'!
Hi Reverbex. I assume you're the one that gave me a thumbs-up. Musk and all who follow him are either stupid, or just naive. It's so sad. Even NASA is duped by Musk. None of these milestones is going to happen in the claimed timelines that these people are saying.
❤,muy interesante,haría falta otro tipo de inducción un motor diferente capaz con sus funciones de alterar las partículas haciendo que la gravedad no afectará tanto,y haciendo más fluida su velocidad,estabilidad disminución de vibración ,y potencia segura para cruzar las barreras de el espacio.
Fission ?
@@ClaudiaMitchell-jn7fw A different engine that alters the particles in its core in order to make gravity not a problem, remove strong vibrations, and a safer and faster launch. It's just an opinion, happy day.
@@LL-bg4vl Something internally spins so fast, it eliminates gravity ?
I think earth as a whole is in a race to oblivion. Sad to say. On a more positive note, I love space science and space exploration. I am still an advocate of NASA and their successes.
it feels like we are back on track
Everytime the rocket launches (or doesn’t make it off the ground) you learn something
@@Zarkiola at least it’s not tax dollars this time
@Zarkiola millions. Billions is when congress and the public cancel the program because they do not understand the reasoning behind it and how it all works. A rocket is a few million dollars. A program is several Billion.
Just use a warp core
Quit day dreaming
Whatever Astronauts sign up for that mission have balls of steel. Godspeed gentlemen. 🫡
Yep. They always put their lives on the line to go to space. We need explorers to push the envelope.
I want to live on mars 🇵🇭❤️💯👍👌
There are lots of plants that grow without soil could be used for capsules
Musk needs to use his drill tech to settle cities inside Mars. Something with a very redundant set of airlocks. Better than domes by far.
Lava tubes are all over the planet, just waiting for us. No need to live in cramped spaces. They are Huge!
Yes, or perhaps just grab headlines and run away with the money bag (subsidies included)
Real fun! To live in a hollowed out asteroid. Can't wait to do that. LOL
Well your gonna have to wait!😅 😂
They just need to focus on building larger space stations in a ring configuration and spin THEM instead of all these bonkers ideas about terraforming environmentally hostile planets and other objects.
what's funny is that is actually a viable thing to do. it provides natural protection from radiation.
@@AntonioPerez-zk2mb I mean cant you just build a Oniel cylinder within a long asteroid and spin the asteroid
@@ClockMaster_3100 Just build a station that you can engineer specifically for habitation with built in life support features throughout its superstructure. It's more cost effective and easier to do from an engineering standpoint than trying to stabilize and hollow out some asteroid. Just think about it very thoroughly.
As a child I'd have been thrilled that we're going back to the moon. Now I realize it's a waste of money, considering that we've got robots which can perform mostly the same job at a fraction of the cost. No it's not as romantic as humans in space suits, but the cost of manned space exploration is an order of magnitude greater. We're not living in the 60's where funds were abundant with a political goal in mind, we need to spend wisely.
The first and last words spoken by Russian astronauts during the Mars landing? - Hi Mars... HIMARS !!!!!!!!
That's not big news they should have done this as soon as we know we had to there's a lot of technology we already have and it's probably just setting around.,.,...what are we really waiting for?
@Carl Weezer again are we waiting for?
NASA is afraid to fail. That is why each experimentation and research takes decades even though it should only take a few years if they become very aggressive. Any failure especially loss of life could cause more decrease in the NASA budget or worse ordered cancellation of a project or NASA itself by the government. And the anti-NASA politicians will have a field day if ever something life-threatening incident would happen to any of NASA's projects.
I’m all for space exploration and discovery, but a corporate owned Martian colony is the worst idea imaginable. Give a private interest enough independence, and they do some pretty horrible stuff
A corporate controlled mars colony? Sounds like science fiction? Not for much longer.
There's going to be all types of colonies on Mars. Whether corporate, government, or even religious, it's going to be there on Mars.
Using the moon to slingshot to Mars 🔴
Fan here in the Philippines 🌴
I feel like rockets have too small payload.... we need to create in space like moon or build up spacestation the stuff and assemble in space.... that way we can create bigger things... also we can assemble in mars it self. if we find iron or needed resources then we can use mars itself to build the base needed...
You don't need the Moon to get to Mars anymore than you need Mars to get to the Moon. If you want to use the Moon, well, fine. But the stuff you'd send to the Moon to get to Mars you can just send to Mars. The Moon itself is a good goal. There are a lot more than thousands of asteroids. But Ceres itself could be broken up and remade into smaller colonies and house the entire population of the Earth with room to spare.
Let's shoot for both
When basically every astrophysicist agrees that the best way to get to Mars sustainably is to use the moon as a jumping off point, what makes you so much more informed than them?
The guy who call out booster ignition made a mistake 😆 🤣
Nice summary of technology history
A magnetic field will need to be created before attempting to terraform Mars. With no magnetic field, solar winds will perpetually evaporate any attempts to create an atmosphere. Until that problem is solved, there will be no terraforming on Mars.
Nobody serious is talking about really terraforming yet. That's still probably hundreds of years off in terms of technology.
I have no doubt we will all go nuclear soon enough.
I think the USA will win the gold medal for the race to Mars like the Moon, I am just wondering who gets the silver and bronze in the space race?