Tatiana Malinina / Татьяна Малинина / タチアナ・マリニナ
1998 Nagano Olympics / 1998 олимпиада в нагано / 1998 長野五輪
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Nagano Winter Olympic Games Figure Skating Ladies Short Program
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Her son Ilia Malinin has just become the world champion in figure skating in Montreal.
❤
What a beautiful moment of pride and joy it must be for Mrs Malinina 🥰
Ilia looks so much like his dad! I believe that’s him sitting next to Tatiana..
@@Ladylore9. A LOT of people think he "takes after his mother"!
I agree with you.He looks just like her@@GARose-kt4jc
I could see Ilia's technique on her. Mom and son are so gorgeous. Good technique, height, speed. Even their style are so cool. What a gifted family.
Они и внешне похожи....
Так конечно, это мама Ильи@@user-vk1yi5ph2y
@user-vk1yi5ph2y Ilia actually resembles both his parents, but yeah, Ilia does look a lot like his mother. In the kiss 'n cry in this video, the younger guy is Roman Skorniakov who married Tatiana in 2000. I can see a resemblance that Ilia has to his father, Skorniakov, around the mouth and jaw line. Ilia was born in 2004. The couple waited 10 years before giving birth to a daughter, Ellie.
Because of Ilia , Americans are now watching Tatiana!⛸⛸⛸
Absolutely not, we know who she is. I watched her in the late 90s. She ranked high enough where we saw her perform
@@erivera4928 I was once BIG, into ice skating, but I drifted away a bit after the Tanya Harding debacle.
Exactly @erivera4928. Anyone who watched figure skating during the 1990s would remember Tatiana. She competed in the era of Michelle Kwan's domination of ladies singles. I remember Tatiana very well. When Ilia was a young skater coming up the ranks in the U.S., everyone who followed men's skating closely in the U.S. knew Ilia was Tatiana M's son. Ilia decided to use the male form of his mother's maiden name since his father's name is more difficult to pronounce. 'Malinin' sounds nicer with 'Ilia,' after all. 😊
Tatiana Malinina was the most beautiful text book jumper in that age. Her jump is an art itself with +GOE. Bravo!
Oddly enough, the flip was a new jump for her in the 1997/1998 season, and she was ALWAYS badly two-footing her Lutz prior to this as well.
Так вот, чей этот мальчик, замечательный, Илья Малинин! СУПЕР!
Dear Ms Tatiana,your son was landed all quad on 2023,25 years after your performance here.❤❤❤
Знали эта девушка, что её сын станет чемпионом мира с новым рекордом и с фантастическими прыжками?
Она не знала, а все делала для этого!
Не знала.
Of course, she had no idea. Both Tatiana and her husband, Roman Skorniakov taught their son, Ilia (Skorniakov is the younger man in this video in the kiss 'n cry -- Tatiana's boyfriend & one of her coaches at the time). Skorniakov also skated competitively. He married Tatiana in 2000, and Ilia was born in 2004. Tatiana's father was a figure skater and her mother was a gymnast. Thus, huge talent is in Ilia's DNA.
Это был риторический вопрос😊
Ilia Malinin’s mom! She finished 8th at the 1998 Winter Olympics.
Ilia is a carbon copy of his mother omg. just the female version of ilia lol
No, his mom has much better body line and extension than Ilia.
@@deirdrekiely6187 It's hard to compare females and males. Ilia has impressive body line and extension for a male skater.
@@automnejoy5308 Exactly. Ilia is much taller than his mother, too. So, he is probably taking a lot of his build from his father's side. In addition, Ilia's maternal grandfather was a figure skater and his maternal grandmother was a gymnast. Talented genes were passed down for sure. Plus, Ilia's parents taught him well. And he's also getting great advice today from Raf Arutunian, Nathan Chen's coach.
I remember watching her back then and always believing she was ridiculously underscored. She is a great talent.
Same!!
Her son is Ilia Malinin. He just won the world championship.
That was faulty 6.0 system with very political judging back then. For sure, Tatiana wasn't given enough credit for her talent, but she skated for Uzbekistan, not a country with any political clout. Also, Tatiana skated in an era of outstanding ladies skaters, so it was tough. But, Tatiana did end up winning the 1998 - 99 GPF (which was at the end of the year from the 1998 Olympics performance we see in this video). She also won 1999 Four Continents.
@@nadlerskidFor sure, Tatiana's son, Ilia, with skater, Roman Skorniakov, is fulfilling all of Tatiana's frustrated figure skating ambitions. They certainly taught Ilia well. Plus, Ilia is blessed with wonderful physical attributes, perfect for figure skating. Tatiana's father was a figure skater and her mother was a gymnast. So, lots of athletic talent was passed down to Ilia, on both sides.
Yes!! Very very low numbers!! And her triple lutz is/was HUGE! 😍
Great triple lutz: outside edge, toe pick, almost no prerotation (only 1/4 resolutions on the ice). Superior technique, in my opinion, 5.8. :з
Omg she looks like a doll and her body is perfect 😢
Wow - seeing both her and Roman sitting together when they were younger and thinking Ilia really takes after both of them equally. These scores are so unfair. She was technically and artistically brilliant.
He's literally 50-50 it's actually funny 😂 Only difference is his eyes, both of his parents have brown eyes
Ilia definitely has his mother's fair coloring, and he resembles her around his eyes. But he takes a lot after his father around the mouth and jawline. His tall build apparently comes from his father, but bone structure is a mixture of both parents, with strong athletic genes inherited from both sides. His parents taught him beautiful technique, which is a great foundation to have. Ilia is also fearless competitively and he has nearly perfect physical attributes for skating.
A complete package totally overlooked. The judges forgot that figure skating is not all teenaged-style or Swan Lake. To skate to jazz music is more challenging, and Malinina did a fine job with this piece. She is a reminder of the classic eras in skating, which was more straightforward as in musical but not frilly. The jumps and skating skills are first-rate and textbook, and she had the whole package. However, this was the 70s-early 2000s dirty judging era, and she was not from a favoured country or group.
It's funny you say Swan Lake regarding Malinina- she skated to it for the *three* prior seasons to this in the free skate. Also, I can't agree that she did a fine job with the piece. She spent the majority of the program looking down, as if she were extremely nervous. The choreography this season seemed to drop below what she was presenting in the previous three seasons (same programs both SP and LP) as well. There is no denying her technical merit, though.
@@TonyWheeler Yes, she was more tense with this program because it is a more difficult type of music (jazz) and piece to skate to. This was also the Olympics, and more nerves are present. However, she really grew into the program later on by World Championships where she skated to it more freely and relaxed, with more flair too.
And I must add, it's not just jazz music but a sombre jazz piece by the great American jazz legend, Louis Armstrong.
@@alexsdb9712it’s Dixieland jazz. Not the same as classic jazz.
@Person-mh6xq It's in the genre, in the family. Jazz is a genre, a culture, a family. A world.
Tatiana had huge jumps and she was grossly underscored imo! Her son Illia has her eyes, and her fair coloring, but he also his dad's features as a young man! It's like looking at a young Ilia, only as a brunette! 😍✨️💖💖💖✨️⛸️⛸️
Yeah, I think Tatiana's scores should have been a bit higher. But thus was the old, faulty, very political judging system. Looking back at a lot of skaters' performances, the judging clearly sucked quite often. A lot of skaters were low-balled. Tatiana also skated during an era of amazing ladies singles skaters. It was the Michelle Kwan Era. You can clearly see Tatiana's frustration with her marks in the kiss 'n cry. Her boyfriend Roman looks more upbeat and he tries to encourage her.
Yep, you nailed it about Ilia having his mother's eyes and fair coloring, and that he also resembles his Dad quite a bit facially, and in bone structure.
ルッツは完全にお手本で完璧ですよね～（S字カーブを描いてから深いアウトエッジ、プレロテ０、トウピックで踏切、完全に回り切ってから着氷） そしてフリップもしっかりインサイドエッジで踏切り、ステップから直ちに飛んでるのが凄いと思います。
Glad to see that Ilia has definitely learned the beautiful toe pick technique from his mom.
so undermarked!
イリア・マリニンのお母さん。
5:08 Мама и папа (слева). :)
なるほど似てらっしゃる。てか息子さんがもう活躍しているとか時の流れを感じる···
I have no idea what you said, but the thumbs up were at 199, so naturally I had to make it 200.
SCANDALOUS MARKS!!!!!!!!!
I noticed the US judge scored her the lowest, may be it was a reflection of US-Russian national relations.
Её муж, папа Ильи, ничуть не изменился с тех пор. И она сама ещё больше похорошела. И мама, и папа и сегодня молодые и красивые!!!
Илья на папу в молодости как похож, одно лицо! Талантливый сын талантливых родителей
@@user-hj6jc3rd2w я сначала подумала, что это Илья рядом сидит🤣
Like mother like son! Bravo! 🍀👏
I remember this from 1998! I thought she was awesome and very underrated.
Tatiana was very good technically, and she had great height on her jumps. She was competent and very competitive in an era of accomplished aesthetic and athletic skaters. The judging was very political in those days as well, and she was not supported by a powerful federation. But, Tatiana went on to win 1998-99 GPF and 1999 Four Continents in ladies singles. She married Roman Skorniakov in 2000, and gave birth to Ilia, in 2004 (perhaps her finest achievement).
Это мама Ильи Малинина 34 года тому назад в Нагано на Белой Олимпиаде. Ну и посмотрите на ее сына сегодня. Ясно,что талантом мальчик в родителей.
24 года назад это 1998 год
25 лет назад
Mathematics is not your jam!
Молодец Умница.Красавица
У мамы с сыном одно лицо, прическа, надо же...😊
Ilia does look a lot like his mother, but he's clearly a lot taller. Plus, Ilia also takes a bit after his father around the mouth and jawline. As you can see by looking at the young man in the kiss 'n cry in this video. That's Roman Skorniakov, who married Tatiana in 2000. Ilia was born in 2004.
Shes way underscore in this competition
The same face her son has !😍
Татьяна уехала из России в Узбекистан потому что в России была большая конкуренция среди девушек фигуристок, и ее бы не брали на международные соревнования
Она уехала потому что не столичным тяжело было попасть в сборную,но ей предлагали перейти в цска.Татьяна отказалась бросать своего тренера
So what? If given the opportunity one is smart to take it. Good for her.
I Love Chen Lu but her lutz was under rotated and Tatiana had hang time. The marks are ridiculous.
Her son just look like her. Wow such a resemblance.
Well, not exactly. But you can definitely see it.
С сыном одно лицо. И прыжки высокие
Ok, deductions for her step sequences, spiral, talking to a judge what have you. However, the purity and technique of her jumps and spins were first rate..that lutz!. Yes, her artistry not in same class as Kwan, Lipinsky, Lu, but this was definitely a top 6 short program.
Totally agree. Malinina was talented and competitive, but she was not supported by a powerful federation, and she did not have aesthetic skills on the level of the top ladies of that period. It was an era dominated by one of the most technically consistent and aesthetically pleasing skaters ever, Michelle Kwan.
Malinina went on to win 1998-99 GPF and 1999 Four Continents in ladies singles.
The jump is so good.
Это ж мама Ильи Малинина👍👍👍Во наследственность😊
Pani Tatiano gratuluję ma Pani wspaniałego Syna🙂
ママニン❣️ 旧ソ連出身で夫はマリニナのコーチで、今は夫と共に息子マリニンのコーチですね。 四大陸もGPFも制覇してるので 親子でフィギュアスケートやっていてもマリニナほどの実績者はいないので、親子共々すごいです。
Also Ilia's dad in the kiss n cry. Cute!
Her son totally has his mom's body type. They look so similar skating.
He takes from some of her bone structure and athletic talent. But Ilia is much taller than his mother, with very long legs. Both his parents taught him excellent technique.
technicly the best programm of the night. her lutz and flip were just perfect!!!! 5.8 and 5.6 and she shoud have been in the top 5 after that! if she were russian the marks should have been far away better!!!!
@@GallinaGarkina she didnt skate for russia it was right there in the beginning
@@GallinaGarkina It seems like you need to be told twice dog. she skated for uzbekistan in the 1998 Olympics and now she’s American please fuck off out of my replies.
@@GallinaGarkina are you 12? Youre legit as annoying as a mosquito. Maybe youre mad putin singlehandedly destroyed what was left of your shell of a military? Slava ukraini 🇺🇦
I didn't see Russian ladies on the podium at this Olympics. What are you talking about? By the way, the skater is Russian!
@@alexandrefreitag5502 She represented Uzbekistan, though.
I see ila in her so much
Her technique on the jumps was the class of the field -- bar-none.
Талантливая мамочка талантливого фигуриста Ильи Малинина! 💝Наши, русские ребята! 💥
Эти "русские" ребята никогда не были в России. Он родился и вырос в Америке
@@user-mw2ve8pz2n ее отец до сих пор тренирует в России.
@@user-mw2ve8pz2n Мама Ильи - из Новосибирска, папа - из Свердловска (у Вас Гугл не работает:?))!
Не пристраивайтесь к чужому.
@@BogdanaBDN нам без нвдобности, мы еще и своим можем поделиться, как в случае с Малининым, вы дамочка перепутали, это пендосы чужим материалом проюавляются: то этническими китайцами, то, как вот в этом случае, русскими. Это нам не надо, чтобы потом всякие малинины к нам примазывались.
Сын так похож на маму, не только внешне, но и в отсутствии растяжки и пластики. Но Илья в технике исполнения прыжков гений!!!
А вы похожи на слепую тетерю если не видите растяжку Ильи...смените методичку
@@yulysolgunter2057к сожалению, Илья проиграл Чха Джунхвану и непобедимому Сёме Уно. При всём уважении к юному дарованию
@@user-sd6re4de5s непобедимому?Илья месяц назад выиграл финал гран при у непобедимого Шомы Уно
@@yulysolgunter2057 но чм проиграл увы
@@user-sd6re4de5s это прошлый год был когда Илье сильно зажимали компоненты.Сейчас другая история и другой лидер ,Илья Малинин
Such low marks for a clean skate. One of the flaws of the 6.0 system was the lack of explanation for the marks.
The US judge scored her the lowest.....a reflection of US-Russian relations?
Exactly. It was a flawed system. It was exciting, though, to see the rare 6.0s for outstanding athletic and aesthetic performances.
Илья копия мамы, даже взгляд😊
Илья похож на неё!
ilia looks so much like her!
She was a excellent toe jumper. Makes sense.
В какой же космос улетело с тех времен фигурное катание в плане презентации!
Here bec of her son Ilia💗
Her son is here because of her ,Moron remark
@@ingai7014 Happy Mother's Day then. Was just simply admiring them both. Btw, it's this toxic remark of yours that keeps us away so shut ur trap!😡
@@adorcuntapay3915 shut up yourself ,the way you posted it’s the way I responded ,it does not look like you trying to explain
@@ingai7014 just saw the US Nationals and just learned that Ilia is Tatiana's son. Is that so hard to understand? Grow up!!!
@@adorcuntapay3915 this is why ,child ,cause you just saw and just learn ,so next time ,before putting something stupid you actually know and read before
Ilia Malinin's mom.
Замечательная фигуристка и мама🎖
Best 3Lz of the games
Well she got three deductions. You can’t go over and address the judges because your jewelry came off. Even if you’re addressing the judge you know speaks your language. She was so shook she forgot to go straight to the referee. When part of your costume comes off on the ice that’s a deduction. She skated through it instead of stopping and starting over or asking to wait to skate til the end of the group. Next, to avoid skating over her jewelry she completely collapsed the circular step. Imagine you’re un molding a pie and one side caves in. She lost .3 on not finishing the circle. Or making the circle shallow. Then the spiral step. She had to hit three positions using a serpentine spiral. She only really achieved one arabesque and her last spiral when she had to hold the leg up for 3 seconds. She let go too soon and took at least .3 on that. So what appeared like a well jumped program got deduction on both step sequences. That’s why the artistic mark had to come down since most of your choreography is showcased with those two elements. She learned her lesson and became quite a champion during 99-2001
IF you look at her worlds short program in 1998, she changed the spiral sequence and made the circular step much larger with a few more moves. And she got a 5.7 from one of the judges.
Thanks for the detail explanation! Now it makes sense her marks were a lot lower than I expected. I knew she was going to get deductions due to her jewelry fell off but wasn’t aware of other choreography errors she made.
Thank you for this detailed explanation.
Yes, thank you for this. The jumps were great, the spins good, but the sequences had major deductions. Not only was the pattern shallow, but the steps were really simple. And you're absolutely correct about the leg barely being above (if at all) the hip in the spiral. A lot of two-footed skating as well.
Thank you for this sound, fair, competent explanation/ assessment of this performance by Malinina. Indeed, she went on to win 1998-99 GPF and 1999 Four Continents! Her only major championship medal wins. Tatiana married Roman Skorniakov in 2000, and she gave birth to Ilia in 2004, one of her finest achievements.
懐かしい〜！！ NHK杯によく来てくれてましたよね。
Bravo très jolie performance ❤
Никита Малинин сын взял рекорд чемпионатов мира и золото
Илья Малинин.
Как Илья похож ❤
Let's give the skater with the best Lutz amongst the women a 5.0 and artistry marks in the 4's. What a joke.
I am outraged still for Ms Malinina who deserves 3rd place ordinals that evening. Had this been judged fairly, Ms Butyrskaya would have been leading, followed by Ms Kwan and finally Ms Malinina...
What about Irina Slutskaya though?
キスクラ左側の若い男性はマリニン君のお父さんですね。そしてアナウンスは新村さん。そして私は観客席前方にいました。お母さんマリニナさんはジャンプのお手本を飛ぶスケーターでした。
Those marks were a mess compared to what she delivered!
She can do a quad. Great height.
tes 5.8 ~5.7 !!!!!!!
Илья копия мамы!просто вылитый! А если рядом с ней папа, то теперь ясно, кто всегда рядом с ни сидит в киссен-край!!!
I like her 3Lz.
Как Илья похож на маму❤
omg son looks just like her. amazing
Remember then ,always though she was unfairly treated by the judges ,cause of small republic she represented ,nobody cared ,and now once again ,history repeated itself ,her son was failed by his own country !
Agreed! He needs to switch countries.
Ilia's wish was granted! He gets to compete in World's Jr and Sr event this year!! Hope he wins both.
@@tw5543 he should be ready to go there yesterday!
@@tw5543 but he wanted to go to the Olympics
@@the_piano_diva Well, we don't always get what we want, do we? He wasn't quite there yet. He'll be going to the Olympics this next time around. He is the World Champion. There is nothing to cry about.
I think jazz is "harder" to skate to, I found myself wishing she had different music.
Почему иакие разные оценки у судей ? Они спали чтоли во время катания фигуристки или чтото нюхали ?
Илюша, в женском обличии.
Сын горааздо сильнее. Рекордсмен мира. Даже непобедимого Уно в рейтинге обошёл, хотя и проиграл ему
Илья похож на маму :-)
サムネ、マリニン選手に似てる😊
Боже,одно лицо,мама и сын.Илля вітаю з України з титулом переможця ЧС.
Спасибо за эту запись! Мне очень понравилось!! PS Вот времена-то были, когда украинский арбитр поставил оценки выше российского спортсменке из бывшего СССР!!!
5.1 technical????? wrong...should be much higher.
Это мама Ильи Малинина?
Da 😊
So sad for her LOW numbers!! Like… why??? Wtf? She did it perfectly!!
5:24 These two were thinking: Let’s start a legacy in America and see if these judges dare to mark us low again.
お母様もジャンプが高くて得意な方だったんですね😵お顔といいマリニンにそっくり😵
Хорошенькая
С точки зрения выразительности и хореографии слабовато.
お母さんかわよ。
а что случилось?.. что она там судьям говорила?
потеряла и нашла на льу
なんて踏み込みの浅い、それでいて高さがあって、明確なジャンプ！ この遺伝子があるならイリアのジャンプにも納得だ。
Surya stole the show at Nagano 98
5.3 in this amazing routine??? Disgrace!!! She deserved all 5.9s and 6.0s.
Разве такие оценки она заслужила 😱😱😱
А какие? Детсадовское катание.
Nyet.
@@user-ov9ko5jk2mтак это 1998 год. По вашему они тогда должны были прыгать четверные?
Ну к примеру Катарина Вит и каталась и прыгала гораздо лучше ещё в начале 80х. Даже сейчас о её катании не скажешь что оно слабое.
Илья так похож на папу, точно так голову высоко поднимает
Это вообще-то его мама...
@@evi_corgi Папа Роман Скорняков, тренер и муж Татьяны по её правую руку сидит в ожидании оценок.
マリニン君によく似てる❤
these marks were just ridiculous
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ダイアナさんに似てる綺麗過ぎる マリニンはお母さんそっくり
マリニナさんウズベキスタン人だったのか
Ring of Ice
I think this could’ve been 2nd or 3rd? I did think Michelle won the night…
In some angles, she looks like demi lovato.
Странно, даже российский судья поставил 5,3! За что так мало
Так она же не за Россию выступала, поэтому и поставили что заслужила.