A Comedian’s Take on How to Save Democracy | Jordan Klepper | TED
Conversation is a battlefield with only one winner. Or is it? Comedian and author Jordan Klepper believes we can get better at talking to each other (and perhaps save democracy) by learning how to lose.
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This message will reach exactly the demographic that needs to hear it the least.
That’s the rub
I think you are wrong. The left progressive are just as bad when it comes to not listening. As Jordan said when you are certain you are right, that leaves no room for discussion.
...and this is actually NOT the lesson the target audience needs to hear. When one side of the political spectrum is blatantly trying to end democracy and set up a fascist dictatorship, conceding is NOT the right response.
@@nicholasflamel1134 If that's what you think he was saying you need to watch it 10 more times or until you get it.
Isn’t this the guy who goes out there with a camera a mocks his political opposition?
This wasn’t a standup routine. He wasn’t trying to get hee-haws and guffaws. He was trying to use humor to convey points that, to be quite honest, are deadly serious right now. I appreciate when someone can do that effectively, and with the lens on everyone. Themselves very much included. Glad I found this. Even more of a fan now.
Jordan is great, and has unique perspective on current views through comedy. I really wish this TED talk was 18 minutes.
Some need to know that the word "concede" means...
@@b.a.wellman1922 Concede. Consensus. Partisan politics should be rooted in finding common ground. That’s what the House and Senate should be focused on working towards.
Exactly!
He's absolutely trying to get laughs. And you can see the pauses where he expects them.
I think that they should make Jordan the second host of the Daily Show Tuesdays thru Thursday and keep the man, the myth, the legend, the great Jon Stewart on Mondays for as long as they can! Jordan is a special voice in our modern culture!
I would like to see him too!
I really like Desi as a host too, her delivery is great. If they rotated every week I'd be happy with that.
@@Beartato1989 I agree, Desi is a close second to Jordan Klepper in my book too
He used to have his own show after he left The Daily Show a few years ago. Unfortunately it didn’t last long. He’s very smart and funny.
The only reason I don’t want Jordan to host is because he is so good in the field.
"I could be wrong" brilliant way to end it. If we all could have that openness and curiosity I think that is what would go the furthest to solving the divide. Certainty is the enemy of curiosity.
Agree!! So much. This was a powerful 7 minutes
I came to the comments just knowing that I would find someone to make this point. Brilliant ending.
The problem with this is that there are certain things we should be ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN about... I can't concede ground to a flat earther... There is no ground to concede... Certain people just need to educate themselves better... All tolerance has it's limits...
@@joshuaohuka7719 I fully agree with you, in a just. Rational world. That is not our world. The question I would pose to you is: which is more rational: a somewhat conciliatory approach that opens minds 30% of the time vs a principled one that does so less than 5% of the time?
@@joshuaohuka7719 Sometimes a "concession" isn't about admitting you're wrong, but giving space to allow someone to sound out and explore their point of view. Some people just aren't good at educating themselves, so conceding that space allows you to walk them through the learning process and allowing them to see for themselves why they are wrong.
"The cultural conversations we have are dictated by the forums we have them in." Just wanted to isolate and highlight this pure gem.
Absolutely; as Marshall McLuhan once said "the medium is the message"
Very rough paraphrase of Marshall McLuhan
@@ymustisignin Not a paraphrase, it's literally the name of chapter 1 of his book "Understanding Media"
As I have; divorce yourself from social media.
you guys know you're on social media right ?
1. Read a long book. 2. Travel. 3. Concede something. Accept when you don't know something.
1. Not every long book is good read 🫣 even compare to the TikTok Other two are great advices.
@@LilMnstR85the purpose behind reading a book is to train your brain to have a longer attention span and learn different perspectives. It's not about finding the longest book, it's about being able to read a different point of view and that too without getting distracted. Today the average attention span of a human is getting down to below 1 mins. We cant focus on anything.
I'll take one's ability to regulate their emotions properly and think rationally over how well read they are any day of the week.
@@noitallmanaz Read a book about emotional intelligence then!
@@LilMnstR85 this is exactly what he's talking about, hah! Arguing a pedantic point, attacking a straw man in order to get yourself a win He's not saying every long book is good. Just that the practice of going away, at least once, from short-form media to something longer and more thoughtfully created is a helpful step in the right direction
Jordan Klepper has bigger balls than most of us. Here's a hero who, using satire, was bold and brave enough to challenge MAGA crowds - it wasn't that funny around the time Trump ruled and especially after Jan 6th. This type of satire at times becomes a true heroism. We salute you, Jordan.
He’s definitely quick-witted and has such a sense of humor that make his interactions with the MAGA crowd oh so satisfying! But his courage is slightly offset by the fact that he’s a white male and he doesn’t stick out in the MAGA crowd. I seem to recall Roy Wood Jr staying clear of those situations for a good reason.
@@AlisVolatPropiis I personally think the bigger offset is the fact that he goes into those crouds to do sort of "gotcha" journalism where you try to find the dumbest people and cut those fragments together. Don't get me wrong, it's entertaining and I enjoy his clips, but you can't say it makes him a hero. Also yes he's white and a man, but he is still purposely trying to make people look stupid. I know he probably has multiple security people with him, but it's still not for the weak-willed. I don't think it makes him less courageous to do it just because it would be more dangerousfor a trans, queer or person of colour to traverse those spaces and I dislike that take in general because most spaces are harder to traverse for those groups so to say it is a bit of nothing burger.
Imagine if we all followed Jordan’s example: went out with a camera and condescendingly mocked our political opposition. Imagine how many hearts and minds we would change. My favorite part of watching Jordan is the massive numbers of Trump supporters he converts right there on camera. They’re all like, “Wow! Jordan you’re right! I’m an idiot Trumper and need to address that! Thank you!”
@@CMA418 you make a very good point. Yes, this is a comedy show and what we get with Klepper is instant gratification, but we are no where near understanding our political opposition or being understood. We have to hear and understand each other if we want the madness to stop. Klepper has interviewed that woman who, upon going jail for a short time, realized that she was in a cult and has since started to speak out in hopes of helping others. It would be a good evolution for Klepper to focus on facilitating communication instead of the mocking.
The Fourth Estate and their verbal pitchforks are essential even if not always an ally of the people but more the profit process as silence is how one surrenders to evil.
"I think the phrase 'I don't know' invites a softening, and the ground is too hard to grow much of anything right now." ❤❤
Love Jordan. I’m a Klepp-tomaniac.
I'm going to steal that joke.
Omg I’m obsessed with that. Also stealing🙃 You genius!
@@robertjansen6019 🤯
Kleppermaniac?
Nice! I'm a Kleprecaun!
Interesting take: Travel, read books, admit shortcomings, as individuals we do not know everything. Words of wisdom right there 🙏
They are, but the problem is this - this is all well and good but when you have a significant percentage of the country who deny basic facts of the reality of the last election because they've been lied to for so long that to accept the truth is to crush a huge part of their world view. It really is true - you want to anger a democrat, tell them a lie. You want to anger a republican, tell them the truth.
Jordan Klepper is gold.
I feel so sorry for him! His great jokes were falling on essentially deaf ears while I was howling!
@@athanatic His message was heavy, though, that's most likely the reason why the triggered crowd didn't laugh to his jokes...
This Ted talk should have been longer. Jordan Klepper is a national treasure!
example...he just compared questioning the last election to flat earthers. implying there is zero middle ground. "we are right and they are wrong and that's that" yet we know some facts: the heads of the security state were provably lying about russian interference claims to sway the election. having government agencies sign on to one campaigns fabricated oppo research *is extremely troubling* to say the least they were signing letters to bury the laptop story (again whivh they provably knew to be credible) which raised serious questions about corruption and coordinated censorship to influence public opinion for the election. there were real questions about mail-in ballots and dropbox integrity, and real questions about dominion. (they may be proven false later but that doesn't make you contemptable for having the question, particularly in a low-trust climate where journalism is partisan) the implication that this was cut-and-dry is itself a partisan deflection that refuses to meet at a middle ground...rather embarrassing during a talk about how to do exactly that
Agree!!
I grew up an Air Force brat. Being forced to move around the country every year or two was a good way for me to learn to observe things from multiple points of view.
I was in Marines. Traveling around does give you a different perspective or view on life. You learn to understand and appreciate people and things around you. Yea, when possible, the family came along. For my kids, it was one of the best times of their lives.
I wasn’t in the military, but have lived and worked in several countries around the world. Hearing other people’s views is critical to a healthy country and world.
Same here from India
I always love to talk to people of the places I visit, mostly to old people, because they are most likely to have the time and patience for my questions and curiosities.
One of my favorite people out there. Smart, honest and is very good at expressing things we all think about. Whether we want to or not.
The insecurity that drives arrogance leads most people to claim knowledge and expertise that they simply don’t have, and the ready availability of whatever “evidence” is needed to support our misunderstandings makes us even more refractory to the possibility that we have a lot to learn.
The Dunning-Kruger Effect comes to mind.
the trouble with these conversations is that the people who need to hear them the most simply wont listen, and the people who want to listen dont need them. there is no motivation, no instant reward for someone to change their world view. in contrast, there is LOTS of instant gratification in screaming into the echo chamber of your choice. The trouble with America is that we've convinced our citizens that their opinions are interchangeable with fact, and any dissenting opinions are an attack on their character. You cannot educate those that view education as an offense on their beliefs. what we need is more debate clubs in elementary school. There are universal "rules" when it comes to debate, and nobody follows them any more. example: If you are challenging commonly accepted facts (the sky is blue), the burden on proof is on the challenger, not the defender.
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Well said. I used to dislike debate, not that we had more than a few exposures to it. I thought it was boring. But with maturity and treatment for my ADHD, I now see what I was missing. Also, discovering the penultimate rockstar of debate, Mehdi Hasan, helped. ✌️😎
One of the best Ted Talks I’ve heard in a while! Let’s show our humility and kindness to others! We’re all going through something & all bringing a wide range of perspectives to one another. But what matters is our character on how we approach it. ❤️ also, been going to counseling for 2 years and it does wonders to your mental health when you actively participate.
Quality counseling should be readily available to everyone. Our for profit medical system means that even if you're lucky enough to live in a state which has a fully implemented Medicaid program for those with lower incomes, psychiatrists and competent counselors are hard to find. In addition, appointments are limited, so it's difficult to get the counseling needed. I've been trying to recover from trauma for about 6 years and intense grief for a year, mostly without access to counseling or now 2 appointments per month. We need to somehow take back our health care system from Wall Street.
I agree with travel as one way to bridge gaps. People become more accepting of differences when they experience other cultures first hand and understand that their little corner of the world is just that - one *very* little corner of the world.
💯💞
And countless clueless couples find out that the world is a very dangerous place and not all cultures are equal. They could tell you themselves, but they are no longer with us for some reason.
I completely agree! I also think it’s crucial for Americans to travel within our own country because it’s so large, diverse and different depending on where people live that where we are from in the U.S. heavily influences our beliefs, our biases, our politics, our values and how we relate to others. Only by actually mixing with people from different parts of the country can we at least have an “understanding” of people who think differently. Doesn’t mean we’re going to agree with people’s views…I’ll never agree with a racist, a small-minded person who refuses to believe “facts” nor a person who thinks they’re superior simply bc they’re white… I’m a Latina, a woman, speak four languages, have traveled all other the world and was born/raised in L.A., one of the most cosmopolitan, diverse, intense, and complex cities in the world (I’ve lived in four countries). I will never fully see eye to eye with a person who grew up in rural Minnesota (I’ve worked with them and we couldn’t be more different) but I can understand why they value certain things or why they fear certain things. The problem is, it takes two and they have to also be willing to understand me, understand where I come from and respect my life experiences (as I do theirs). 🤷🏻♀️ The onus is really on the person with the limited life experience, the more narrow view of the world and someone who grew up isolated or sheltered. A person who has extensive and varied experience is typically the most flexible bc they have a lot of experience to pull from and they don’t operate from a place of fear.
Travel well make you smarter and give you more of a perspective, but it will also make you realize how legitimately stupid people are and how badly US education has failed.
Love you Jordan! (and I am from Ohio). ❤
Jordan Klepper … wiser than you let on ‼️. Thanks for the insight … God bless 🙏🏼💕
YES, Jordan Klepper is on TED Ed. Brilliant!
Jordan, I didn’t expect to see you on this channel, but I’m glad I did!
Jordan is the best 💗
Jordan Klepper has impressed me with his quick wit since the first video i ever saw him in. Definitely wish we had more Klepper videos!!
So humbly approached and yet one of the best most timely ted talks I've ever heard.
Klepper is awesome, quick witted, normal, cool, and if you don’t agree with me I concede
Well this is unexpected - but very much appreciated
Jordan has become a fine voice of reason over the years!
Treating politics as sport has ruined both.
Best comment hands down
Yes!!!
Profound.
I gave up on TED talks almost a decade ago. But Jordan Klepper is one of the best.
Jordan, Portland Doesn't suck. :-) it's a lovely town.
Sebastian Junger and Tyrone Hayes have talks worth listening to if you're curious.
Love seeing Klepper! Thank you
Winning by losing… very clever Jordan very clever. I simply think that you’ve been hanging out with Ronnie a bit too much there learning all the tricks of survival. As a fellow Malaysian myself, we grew up walking on eggshells. Instructed to only listen, be quiet, and only talk when asked. But as we all know now that Ronnie could hardly shut-up, and we love him that way, things change and evolve as we travel to places and uproot ourselves. It’s easy to be a jerk, and it’s very hard to be nice sometimes, but who ever said that life is supposed to be easy. Thanks for the tips, hats off to you!
Great job Jordan! And BTW I literally just conceded TODAY to a conservative friend that “maybe Portland Sucks” lol… I am a resident and we really need to step up our game. But your advice is good and we need to keep having the discussions with our friends, family, and community. Our love and effort will win the day in the end
As a native Portlander the problem is people treat it as "Portland sucks and will always suck so just leave and let it die", not "Portland sucks let's work together to make it better". There is a LOT about Portland that doesn't suck, and what does suck is not that hard to fix if our leaders would stop making policy purely for quick, temporary victories (e.g. the back and forth on drug use depending which way it polls). One thing I've learned from travel - Portlanders/Oregonians live in the middle of one of the most amazing and varied landscapes in the world. It's worth having a home base here that doesn't suck.
Awesome to see you here, Jordan ❤
Would have loved to see the extended (3x length) version! ❤
Humility is a virtue, and it's in very short supply.
Niiiice!! You're awesome, Jordan - so glad you got a piece of that TDS desk 😊
“Theodore’s Discussions” should have landed WAY harder. 😂😂😂😂
Jordan is always great :)
Jordan! ❤
As a long time sales trainer, the phrase "I don't know, let me find out and get back to you," is magic!
Brilliant! Love, love, love this man's insight.
Klepper is fantastic. Such a fan.
great talk thanks a lot
Klepper for Daily Show host!!! Not sure why it has yet to happen! He’s so intelligent, truly empathetic, and he CARES. ANNND he’s funny!!! He has that rare combo of unique qualities that both Jon Stewart and Trevor Noah had, so I think it would feel like the smoothest transition if they want to keep TDS vibes as close to how they’ve been since day one! He’s able to put people at ease when it comes to the truly insane and scary shizz happening in the world. And (just my opinion), he may actually be better than Jon when it comes to giving advice-as seen when the audience asks questions in the “between takes” clips. The fact that he comes up with so much wisdom on the spot is crazy impressive. He’s definitely proven himself very capable of the job every time he’s been behind the desk (ALL OF THIS MY OPINION OF COURSE, hahaha-I need to take Klepper’s advice!) I think we’re all quite ready for there to be a steady host (for now, Tuesdays-Fridays through the election, ofc)! PS DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO THROW AWAY BATTERIES??? I have a lil box of collected dead batteries over the 2.5 years I’ve been living in my current apartment, and I don’t know what the heck to do with them. The environment seems too stressed out to deal with batteries but *I don’t know* (hehe🙃) but really-seeking advice hahaha
Jordan is brilliant 😊
Have really appreciated getting to know Jordan more, first through serving as host at The Daily Show, and now through this TED Talk. Def should have been longer. Thank you, Jordan!
I just love hearing your insights.
Goddam, the crowd is a tough one.
I think they are just invested and listening.
He wasn't doing it for the laughs.
The lady in the bottom right looked PISSED - begrudgingly clapping at the very end (had to download the video to see it under the stupid pop up).
Great talk. Audience wasn't ready for the humor, but Jordan's points are dead on.
Thanks Jordan
I was fortunate to see Jordan live at Cobb's Comedy Club on January 6th this year and besides the obvious correlation of the date he was incredible. He's very intelligent, well-spoken and makes great points. But I wish more people would see this. 💔
This also pinpoints maybe the main problem that has gotten us mired in this situation in the first place: the appeal of Trump, for so much of his base, is this "Man's Man" ethos of refusing to do any of these things. And his whole party has taken up that mantle. There is no concession, no humility, no willingness to be wrong or be vulnerable or try to work towards compromise. You have to be "strong" and certain and always right. You always have to win. And when those things aren't true, you have to just keep telling yourself and everyone else that they are, no matter how much evidence is stacked against you. So there's no way to have a discussion, to have civility. It's so hard to see where we can go from here, when one side isn't willing to give so much as an inch.
I totally agree with you. The thing is, at the end of your post, I realized that *I* have to be the one to say "I may be wrong", like Jordan says, because you're right - the other person will not ever say it. So in order to escape, even though I know the facts, just a little "I don't know" might stop my conversation partner in their tracks. I appreciate your post!
I think it’s crucial for Americans to travel within our own country because it’s so large, diverse and different depending on where people live. Where we are from in the U.S. heavily influences our beliefs, our biases, our politics, our values and how we relate to others. Only by actually mixing with people from different parts of the country can we at least have an “understanding” of people who think differently. Doesn’t mean we’re going to agree with people’s views…I’ll never agree with a racist, a small-minded person who refuses to believe “facts” nor a person who thinks they’re superior simply bc they’re white… I’m a Latina, a woman, speak four languages, have traveled all other the world and was born/raised in L.A., one of the most cosmopolitan, diverse, intense, and complex cities in the world (I’ve lived in four countries). I will never fully see eye to eye with a person who grew up in rural Minnesota (I’ve worked with them and we are like oil/water) but I can understand why they value certain things or why they fear certain things. The problem is, it takes two and THEY have to also be willing to understand me; understand where I come from; and respect my life experiences (as I do theirs). 🤷🏻♀️ The onus is really on the person with the limited life experience, the more narrow view of the world and someone who grew up isolated or sheltered. A person who has extensive and varied experience is typically more flexible bc they have a lot of experience to pull from, they’ve seen a lot, and they don’t operate from a place of fear.
It would also help to travel outside the countryside
I live in a small country, a very small country compared to the US. Although it’s a varied, beautiful country, most of us have traveled abroad many times, and have experienced other cultures. When you meet different people, the biases you have about them usually fade away.
@@kellydalstok8900 -- it’s my understanding that Americans are the least travelled people from an industrial country.
Travel OUTSIDE of the US too. The U.S. is extremely homogenous compared to the diversity of thought in the rest of the world. Go see how people live and what they believe in Switzerland, Germany, India, Taiwan, Japan.
Actually, the onus for helping communicate is on the one who is more rounded, more aware of differences and not as frightened of those differences. The ones who need to keep their world narrow need help to be coaxed into moving, looking more broadly at the world. If the onus is on them, they won’t move.
This TED talk should be mandatory to watch!! I love Jordan Klepper 💙💙
Nicely done, Sir.
Well said Klepper!
Outstanding!
thank you Jordan
I love Jordan k on the daily show!!
Incredible!
Tough crowd
Really enjoyed this talk. Tks !!!
Yes -- "Don't Know Mind" is helpful in conversation - and within ourselves. A great practice to be curious about what we don't know.
Jordan is fantastic!
Klepper! ❤
Excellent ❤
So well presented!
The older i get, the more im willing to admit when im wrong or i dont know something. And its brought me a lot of peace actually.
Maybe it’s as simple as letting our guards down, putting ego aside, and opening up our ears and minds to the possible. Simple? No. But possible.
Very insightful! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and insight.
Listen, respond with understanding
Living in a “democratic” society, we must also learn how to communicate and negotiate. As was mentioned in the video, we sometimes need to simply shut up when we don’t know what we are talking about. People try to pretend that they are always so smart that they simply state their opinion everywhere without realising if it is appropriate or not. People sometimes are afraid to be seen as stupid or foolish, and for that, we try to use BIG words to seem cool. As was mentioned by the speaker “We think that our biggest weapon is our certainty, but the most relatable thing about us is our failure.” I think that we need to learn to accept failure. We need to accept that we are not perfect and learn to simply saying, “I don't know”. Let's not look at failure as something terrifying but rather a new chance of succeeding.
Well done 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
💯👍🔉 i've always liked Jordan Klepper, now I like him even more. And I'm from Portland.😂😂😂
Same. Watched this while sitting in the parking lot of Home Depot on Jantzen Beach. And hey, if everybody actually believes our town sucks, they won't stay here. Yay for less traffic!!!
I wish this crowd was better. Jordan is amazing.
As a Canadian, I will concede that point about Mounties.
Brilliant!
Well done.
When u have people making money, lies for profit, and this makes conversations extremely difficult. When lies are treated like truth, how can we get past it??
This just in on Klepper's rendition of Late Night w/ Seth Meyers' "Back in My Day"
Yes, Jordan! 🎉❤😊
It comes to valuing the truth even when it doesn't fit out personal agenda. It's also about working in good faith towards mutually beneficial win/win solutions. We also have to get out of the simplistic notion of politics being like a goddamned Marvel movie with every disagreement being a hackneyed "good vs evil with no shades of gray" mentality. We need to grow the f*** up.
Thanks Jordan.
"maybe portland *does* suck" lol. He gave us the easiest concession ever
Think, don’t judge. It’s become a sport for many, waiting to react with an opinion rather than just listen and reflect. Try to HOLD a conversation, not WIN the conversation, with someone you disagree with.
My man just talked about a law from 48 laws of power book in the last . " fool them with you vulnerability and when they let their guard down , move like a thunderbolt "
Attack 😱😱😱😱
Have you seen that greasy worm? I wouldn't ever let my guard down around him.
Theodore Discussions to T’s GIFs
Klepper's quickly becoming Jon Stewart Jr. The fact he took the time to do these CNN interviews and TED talks about the state of democracy has really made him a folcrum of American politics. Much like Stewart. He keeps his eye on the right parts of democracy, always in the right corner, watching everyones back. One of the greatest comedic writer's I've ever met told me, "Read a fuckin' book." It's amazing what knowledge can do to your relation of the zeitgeist.
Dear TedX, we need that 18 minutes, maybe even a few of them. Jordan Klepper is one of the most relevant, cogent, compassionate voices of our time. Make it so. 🖖😎
Good points Jordan! Speaking about failure, Paul Theroux once wrote, "Though America in its greatness is singular, it resembles the rest of the world in its failures." I love the line, "Every person who has ever loved me, has told me how much of a looser I am." LOL!
Jordan is the man!!!
Is their a long version of this? He has some very good points
That was the full lecture.
As we say: Ignorance can be a blessing or a curse..; but acknowledging it is defa virtue!
So well said… ✌🏼
This guy really sounds like H. Jon Benjamin (Archer/Bob's Burgers) at times. Keeps reminding me of him. Also, fantastic 8 minutes. Very well written, and it's good to see somebody put social media at the top of the list of "why everything is so broken."
👏👏👏👏 Bravo Jordan.
Thanks Jordan!
"We think our strongest weapon is our certainty, but the most relatable thing about us is our failure." Not merely thought-provoking words to lay the foundation of a genuine exchange of ideas, but hauntingly reminiscent of Stephen Fry's fantastic dissection of the difference between US and UK comedy.
I love that this talk can be distilled down into Meet in the Middle by Diamond Rio.