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Great video, man! the disturbing lore goes deep :0
Ayo thanks flipster! coming from you it means a lot fr There are definitely tons of unexplained horrors within the series
Ur a god tier gamer fl1pster
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The fact that The Freezer is not an "another wack videogame creepypasta character" and real existing game corrupting glitch is really fascinating. Still i do not understand why devs doesn't fix that though
I can only assume that it might be an early release of Saints Row 2 that was released to disc for the 360 version. The PS3, PC/Steam/GOG, and digital copies of the game on PSN and XBM don't have this issue, only the physical 360 release has it. I'm not an expert on this phenomenon, but mrsaintsgodzilla21 has made a video years ago about the Freezer, which I highly recommend.
The Tiny Pistol was essentially an easter egg referencing the Noisy Cricket pistol from 1997's Men in Black in both the gameplay effects on the player and 'Loud Locust' being a rip on it's name
"I feel like I'm gonna break this damn thing!"
It was also in the third game, you break a door down in lets pretend and find it down stairs
If people didn't notice that they didn't watch MIB
@@SpicySpaceCat00The 4th game
@@MidnightClubStillCancelledSozI haven’t seen you in years
7:00 Fun fact, there's actually a huge reference to this in, of all places, Assassins Creed Syndicate. The protagonists start a gang in 1860s London to take down the other gangs. Said gang is green. 20 years later, they've been taken over by the protege of one of the main protagonists, Jack the Ripper. Now they're purple.
Saints row 2 was my favorite. So many things to do, explore and I appreciated how it was the perfect balance of seriousness and goofiness.
Saints Row 2 was my first and most favorite but for what it was Saints Row 1 was pretty good
i beat saints row 2 i think about 10 times? it’s just so fun. way too fun.
Grinding respect just so that you can play the storyline missions was annoying though.
I never had that problem since I love doing the activities first
@@sizzurpmp3 I don't mind the grind if it's not *forced* upon you.
Dude. The count of Monte Cristo was awesome. My uncle gave me a copy when I was young and I couldn't get past the cover. Years later I read it and it blew my mind. It's not only a tale of revenge but ULTIMATE revenge. COMPLETE victory. The main character doesn't just learn how to fight. He learns how to think. He learns patience. He learns math. He learns science, language and finance. When he makes his play all the cards are his and he is ruthless.
Reading your comment alone makes me want to give it a watch, in fact, I might just do that right now tbh lol
@@sizzurpmp3 the book is much better. It's a long read though. If you do watch the movie there are two ones. The original and the remake which is okay but I have to stress the book was the best story. You really can't fit everything into a movie.
Great video, but these icebergs are missing quite a bit. 1: First of all there is no mention of the pyramid which makes me believe you were paid off by ultor (i know everyone knows about it but since the underground mall was mentioned might as well) 2: On the mountain above the pyramid there is a pond in the woods. If you search around enough you'll see a hocky mask lying on the ground with the notification "pick up bones". If you carried the hocky mask around long enough (or threw it) it would instantly turn into a human skull. It was a really creepy item that led some fans into theorizing that you could bring Jason Voorhees into the game but it was most likely just a reference that the developers threw in for fun. 3: if you wait in a boat or swim in a certain spot right by the coast of volition oasis there is a sea monster that swims through the seaweed. Its really creepy if you're not looking for it and you just happen to notice it. It spawns in the same spot every few minutes or so and swims in a straight line to dissappear back into the dark. Definitely the creepiest easter egg ive seen in saints row. 4: This ones not a big deal but in saints row 2 if you go to the saints church hideout and go to the area with all the homeless people close to the area where the zombie minigame takes place you can find half of a corpse barried in the rubble. 5: Saints row the third aslso has a secret sex dungeon. Its much smaller but you can find the dildo bat there along with a cabbit (i believe). Also in saints row 3 there are small cabbits that appear in a few other locations like image as designed. 6: In saints row 4 if you go to the bottom of one of the giant alien towers and call in the alien hovercraft you can glitch under the entire world. From there you fly to another specific point of the map (sorry im going off of my memory) and you start descending straight down into the blue abyss until every turns black, then you keep descending until you start to see your homies appear on the map. If you go down far enough you can find the ship that all the main characters use to escape near the beginning. If you go under the ship with you aircraft you can actually glitch your way on board and can even recruit the homies on board and ineract with them in ways you couldn't if you teleported to the ship (exited the simulation) like the game intended. Not sure how many people know about this one since its probably been patched by now but i always thought it was the coolest glitch in gaming.
Thanks for the heads up yo! If I ever get around to doing a part 2, I will definitely give you a should out for this info drop!
I believe in Saints Row 3 or 4 there’s also another set of doors with creepy laughing and screaming and chainsaw noises behind it.
I believe the ending that you choose to kill killbane it could be the starting of the Red faction’s universe.
Interesting theory. I could see that working
Do you think STAG wasn’t completely destroyed but they end up becoming to known as EDF (Earth Defence Force) from Red faction?
@@uncleblaine1433 I need to brush up on my Red Faction lore a bit more, but It’s possible that since STAG succeeded in the Kill Killbane universe, they could’ve spun off as another entity in Red Faction, so it’s definitely a possibility.
I’d consider any ending prior to Red Faction because of Ultor being plastered everywhere
Bruh no cap the saints Row community is one of the best in gaming the reboot made us come together and appreciate what we had in the old ones like I’ve been replaying sr3 and 4 and their way better than I remember
This video already a Saints Row classic i can feel it.
As someone who has played the series ever since the first came out, the "Ben King Planted the Bomb" and the "Eric Gryphon" theory make lot of sense and could've gave us a truly epic storyline for Saints Row 3 with great plot twists while tying up loose ends for characters.
24:31 I think the Cyrus Temple is Kenzie's father entry is a typo. Cyrus is actually implied to be Jessica's father (Maero's girlfriend from SR2) and her death is part of his motivation for hating gangs.
I still personally see this as a stretch since Cyrus was a military officer and Jessica seemed like a stuck up rich girl.
@@mrduck5182 I don't see how that would make it a stretch. I know irl military kids who act like her.
@@AsymmetricalCrimes it wasn't just her actions, she owns a fairly expensive car. Also Jessica was around 20 and Cyrus was about 65 or something.
Cyrus does specifically reference to Jessica during his speech, fyi. The theory is simply based off on the assumption that his specific mention of her isn't casual, nor a simple reference. After all, it's not exactly known how much media coverage and attention her death got, hence it's unclear whether he's simply just referencing to it because what happened to her is very well known in-universe (a bit like Hughes' death, which is made abundantly clear is considered a big deal and widely known), or for more personal reasons.
Note on the Playa's real name: Volition once mentioned on a stream that in early SR1 development, the Playa was called Mikey. Although they said they pronounced it Mickey, for some reason.
Mikey honestly sounds fitting for the default SR1 Playa
@@sizzurpmp3Btw you ever thought about the undercover cop in SR1 being named Troy as in the city that got hit by the OG trojan horse? That shit blew my mind today when I realized it😂
@@mtndew4746 that’s actually a pretty neat fact. Crazy how the OG Saints Row writers were so clever lol
9:00 I have a theory about Carlos’s brother, I believe in the first church scene of the sr1 game when Lin comes out a saints member says “I didn’t know the rollerz pimped hos” and later sucker punched by Lin is him.
Interesting to theory, I buy it. Carlos has cut dialogue that said his brother died while defending the church, so it’s not out of the question
That’s funny me and my brother had the same theory growing up, we called that guy Carlito and head cannon that he dyed his hair red (cause in our game the guy always had a red buzz cut and dark brown sideburns) we’d usually recruit him if he ever showed up in free roam
Jacques Hennequet (Dev at Volition) has his name in SR1. I think it's near Ben King's Penthouse. It's on a plaque that says he's the founder of Stilwater. I think it would be a cool inclusion in a part 2 video.
Personally what ruins and makes an "iceberg" lose it’s touch and meaning is adding a bunch of easter eggs making it a easter egg video instead of what’s supposed to be an iceberg
@@TotallyNotKanye Eh. It's not a big lore addition or mystery, but I wouldn't exactly call it an Easter Egg either. It's somewhere in the middle.
@@R3fug333 whatever that makes you feel better
33:02 I have seen something in underground stilwater. I wasn't recording because I was on xbox 360 (which to my knowledge has no way to save clips without software) and i was only like 11 years old but I remember a distant ped spawning right next to me walking which scared the shit out of me then it turned towards me started the number 1 emote but despawned like half way through the emote and it absolutely scared me
I had a similar experience with it ages ago and even caught footage of it occurring in the SRTT Remaster. It's on my channel to boot.
I remember flying over the ultor building and seeing a random npc say watch them laugh now and jump and never saw it again
rip to my man lmao
Honestly the final iceberg point being where Zombie Lin and Carlos come from might make a little sense to a degree. Lin would’ve had to been fished out the river, and the blood on the dirt road, Carlos was still stuck to the truck. Absolutely no evidence for this but decent speculation
I’m glad you see it that way too! Even if that isn’t the case, it’s still fun to theorize about it
Awesome to see more Saints Row content, especially when it's getting into the more unknown and crazy things in the series. Keep up the great work man!!
Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
One possible entry could've been the idea that Osama Bin Laden was meant to be in place of Cyrus in SR4's prologue. mrsaintsgodzilla21 did a video on it.
That would make a great topic for a part 2
The only reason why the freezer appears on the Xbox 360 physical copy of the game that I can think of is that the physical release was an earlier build. It's simular to what happenee to the OG Xbox version of True Crime: New York City, the version of the port was shipped with the wrong build of the game, making it glitchy as all hell and pratically impossible to finish, as the mission Human Cargo is unbeatable due to this factor.
do you thibk i can find the freezer on ps 3
@@saints_row_cat I have watched saintsgodzilla's video on The Freezer (which, ironically is how I was introduced to it, shoutout to him), and he said that he hasn't had the issue happen on the PS3, PC, and the Xbox 360 Marketplace versions of SR2, it seems to be the physical Xbox 360 copies of Saints Row 2 that are prone to the Freezer.
For the Gryphon is Alderman Hughes theory theres even more evidence. During that DLC on one of the missions dex will call you and say "Gryphon isnt who you think he is"
You're right! wish we've gotten a definitive answer to that question.
"I didn't even know Poland had a rap scene, i thought their musical taste consisted of old folk songs and yodels or some shit" - that's the most american sentence I heard lately. Btw I have this collector's edition.
In saints row 2 there's also a pirate skeleton behind the mega condo apartment beach which can be related to the pirate ship on the unmarked island Another easter egg is the Jason hockey mask that turns into a skull after you grab it for a while, this is near the toxic lake of mount claflin, in sr2 obv
wtf, saints row got more cancelled projects than actual entries in the franchise😂
Its sad when you realize how big the series could've been if some of these games would've come out
9:48 when I was a kid I was convinced that there was some conspiracy about if johnny didn’t die in saints row 3 that zombie johnny gat must be an imposter and I was convinced that he was for a long time
Your theory ended up coming true in the long run lol
My theory on the house is that the Ronin may be torturing someone who owes them money or a rival gang member. Speaking of that, one interesting thing I noticed playing FUZZ missions is that whenever there's a gang fight it's always Ronin vs Samedi, or at least I have never seen Brotherhood being involved. If that's not just my luck, makes me wonder if Brotherhood has some sort of truce or agreement of some kind with either Ronin or Samedi.
Considering that the Ronin and the Brotherhood are the most organized gangs in the game, it makes sense that they have some sort of truce going on. The Brotherhood and the Samedi are also neighboring gangs, so that might be why they're cool with each other too, which explains why the Ronin and Samedi are exclusively always at it. Nice catch on the smaller details!
There’s a line that Carlos says in the files where he mentions his brother was on the first Saints and died shortly after joining
I wasn’t sure whether or not to add it in considering it’s a cut piece of dialogue and it’s arguably non-canonical now
to my knowledge the one guy who was working on fixing SR2 and making the patch has died, unsure if he passed on the torch to others
Yeah I’m fully aware. He left the project in the hands of another colleague of his who was helping him make the patch. The status of the entire fix is still unknown and volition refuses to give any updates.
Stilwater uses a mix of a few other Midwest states Michigan and Minnesota seems to be the biggest of the bunch the best Saint's Row games are in Stilwater
this is one of the best saints row videos i’ve ever seen. great job dude
Ayyy thanks homie! glad you enjoyed watching it as much as I enjoyed making it
absolutely fantastic video bro also, there was cut dialogue from carlos, revealing his brother died defending the church
Wow really? Why would they cut that and would it be considered canon to begin with? I'm happy you liked the video bro!
Awwww shit, Sizzurp uploaded! Thanks for this carnal 🤙🏽
This was a really good watch, great video my man! l'm gonna start bing watching it for months on end lol
I’m very glad you liked it that much bro! It’s awesome to hear this from people. Means a lot fr
The idea of Saints Row 2 set in the 70s could have some leftovers in the final game as the gangsters outfits are not exactly modern for the 2000s in addition to the funk station and many of the Saints Row 2 cars are classic cars also the Stilwater Police SWAT and FBI are wearing dated outfits and are very similar to the Destroy all Humans 2 Police and Military which are from 1969 the SWAT van in Saints Row 2 is a 70s era van and the blue SWAT APC is actually a very old 1960s Cadillac Gage Commando finally a lot of the store music and even radio commercial themes are easy listening songs from the 60s and 70s most by Gehard Nartholtz and a lot of the pedestrian gang and police dialogue sounds like dialogue from the late 70s and early 80s because the swearing and sex was toned down from SR1 it's really interesting how the leftovers made it into the final game especially the police bike and police boat being from the 60s and 70s despite being set in modern times its really weird
Best iceberg I've seen yet very well made hope so see more stuff like this ❤
Appreciate the good feedback homie! Glad you enjoyed it
The funny thing is, the column with the bloody doors is right about where the original safehouse in the first game was located. Always thought that was rather odd...
Starting with WWE2K17, you’re able to set Stilwater as a hometown for your custom wrestler.
I am glad someone made a saints row iceberg It one of my favorite series ty 💜💜
Really enjoyed this. Keep up the excellent work!
Thanks homie, I’m really glad you enjoyed it!
The music choices in this video are top notch, bud. Especially trance 009 sound system dreamscape Very nice!
Thank homie, a lot of though did went into the music in this video
started playing sr2 again recently and someone fell on the Heron statue at Heron Hotel and it scared me, I was so confused. This video cleared that up so thank you. Kinda eerie there’s multiple suicides in the game
I was waiting for a saints row iceberg years and years but now its finally here.
Killing Dex in Gat out of Hell got real boring real quick. So much so that as soon as I heard him I ran the other direction so he'd despawn. There was nothing special to it, plus he's in hell meaning he's already dead so where's the satisfaction in that? Then they go about it in the laziest way. I never thought that the SR games were a grind until I played that.
No Other Games Disappointed me like The Saints Row Reboot , and Trust me This is From a Person who Preordered Cyber Punk Decades before the Release .
Wakeup sizz just made new video!
Awesome video man thanks
Saints row is my childhood! Thank you for the great video about this game. And I know one fact about Tiny Pistol, that this pistol from the movie Man in black
Glad you liked it man! And thanks for the clarification, I honestly had no idea. You learn something new everyday lol
hate that i’m so late seeing this. i already know this is gonna be a banger.
On saints row 2 you could get the dual katanas in free roam without the uses of mods but they turn your player into an a-pose instead of using proper animations because they were programmed for junichi
What I meant to say was “it isn’t fully functional without the use of mods”. You can obtain them sure, but they weren’t usable, not unless you were on a bike.
Good video man big ups
21:50 Yeah, "Dragons" is a reference to the cut SR IV vehicle, which was a fully animated dragon
The king is back.
good video sizz! keep it up!
Appreciate it fam! You’re a true G
Fun fact Grant Albrect who voiced Crypto in Destroy all Humans voices one of the Caucasian Vice Kings members and the Caucasian Stilwater police officer in Saints Row 1 as his groans and screams were reused from Volitions Punisher game as Grant Albrect voiced the Fisk industry guards and the Fisk industry guards appear to modelled after Crypto as they are bald with shaved heads he also does his Jack Nicholson voice for his Fisk guard but he puts on this really convincing gangster voice for his Vice King character and he puts on a much higher voice for his Caucasian police officer in Saints Row 1 hes really good
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Wow man there were a lot of things i didnt know even though i played sr 1 and 2 a month ago .its great to know that some people are still playing sr 1 and 2 which are the best among the whole franchise.i really would love to see part 2.and i can tell you guys that i played sr3 first then sr4 and gat out of hell but when i played sr1 and sr2 i told myself that now this is a gangsta game.i usually dont like playing really old games but i enjoyed sr1 with xenia and 2 with pc port and when i found out that dlcs didnt make it to the pc i was sad actually.anyways keep up the good work man
Glad you enjoyed the video and the series dawg! Welcome to the Row
Man he spittin the faxx
Good stuff man keep up the videos
Thanks dawg!
21:45 love the South Park music here, altough I'm sure whats being referenced is Puff the rideable Dragon that was cut from Saints Row 3/4.
Yeah I thought so. There’s a ton of dragon iconography’s throughout the series so it was kinda hard to include a single thing to that entry
Its funny people called sr a gta clone when gta turned into an sr3 clone,years later.
They have side mission in V tow the truck lol while ŠR2 did it in 3 King first
I agree now they can't use call sr a "gta clone" anymore
I want that Saints Row Prime game so bad, i just know it wouldve been better
100% Brand new map, new mechanics, and Johnny would've been back. Also, they wouldn't have written themselves into a corner by blowing up the Earth.
The most obscure and disturbing part of the saints row iceberg, is the part, that references the reboot.
The Dual Katana's ARE obtainable without mods in SR2, I used to do it on my PS3 - they just don't work outside the mission and cause the Playa to T-Pose when you attempt to attack with them.
been waiting on a vid like this for yeeaaaaaaaaaaarsss
Same here! I got tired of waiting so I made my own lmao
@@sizzurpmp3 W
This was really cool i someone could make up a concept for the ben king and julius game or even for what was going on between the time of the explosion and the player’s recovery
"That's like calling every first person shooter 'Doom clones'." That's actually a thing as well though, right up until the mid-2000s a lot of FPSes were called Doom clones because a lot of them were still heavily inspired by their predecessors. It wasn't till the Call of Duty and Battlefield franchises that the term became reserved for indie titles intentionally copying the style. Similarly, Saints Row kinda was a GTA clone up until the 4th entry. It had a similar UI, similar fonts, the games played and felt more similar than most modern open world games at the time.
Great video. One topic I would add is the games timeline. I can't remember every detail, but user jeanpoliko made a video about the story of the series. Basically the only game that helps us track down every game and the year it takes place is SR3, but in the same video it's said how the game has a bunch of just absurd facts like deaths from the same game occurring years apart from each other according to in-game newspapers and files. I recommend that part of the video if you want to make your own take on it
I actually already made a similar sounding video on the SR timeline a few years back.
@@sizzurpmp3 cool, i'll go check out
R.I.P. Volition
Needed this video
Amazing Iceberg sizzrup I love saints row to the bottom of my heart
Awesome, me too! Glad you liked my take on an iceberg video
20:56 Germany is dayroom for that
FINALLY A SR ICEBERG
I thought it was about time someone filled that void lol
I miss The Destroy. I wish it would have appeared in more then one game.
SR4 would’ve been the perfect game to re-introduce it. Missed opportunity there smh
@@sizzurpmp3 That game had so many UFO references in it I was sure we would get it. They have a car that looks like a UFO, but it does not fly. Such a shame. Thanks for the reply and heart!
About the "gta clone" take, I see more as a quick way to explain to someone unfamiliar what a game is all about, like your uncle or cousin that don't really play videogames, and then they watch you play and you say "it's like GTA" and they understand what you meant instantly
There's a difference between saying "this is like GTA" and "this is a clone of GTA". A clone is just straight up ripping off GTA without creating its own identity, meanwhile saying it's like GTA means it just shares gameplay elements, which applies to saints row, each game has some of the gameplay elements but they tend to have their own identity away from the GTA games.
Bro got 009 Sound System playing 😂
the music at 23:00 fuckin killed me man, thank you
What music did you use for the "why does the freezer exist" section? I remember hearing it during late night health care ads, and it always creeped me out as a kid lol.
It’s a restored version of the song “Ominous” by Whitehardt. It’s most commonly associated with the Bob Goldwater law firm and indeed pretty creepy lmao
finally a good saints row iceberg
If more ads were like "Ship it", I would actually pay attention.
SR1 and SR2 leaderboards are back up my friend. been up since dec 2022. the gang leaderboards were shut down oct 2009 tho and will never return. 360 servers have a issue sometimes were leaderboards go away for multiple 360 games for a certain period of time, but always come back.
The pimp slap in SR1 is very possible to get if you use a save game editor or have modded the game to spawn it in the weapon stash or gun store but however you can't unequip it and if you save the game with the pimp slap then your game is forever stuck with that pimp slap as there's no way to remove it. I made a video on my youtube channel using the pimp slap in SP but however Volition forgot to add the knockback and damage thus making it useless in SP but thankfully modders were able to fix this. Also there's an unused vehicle in Saints Row 1 called the baddog which i also made a video of. Also Saints Row 1 was suppose to have a feature to use left handed or right handed weapons but was scrapped as the game had to be rushed out the door quickly.
18:58 sounds like a awesome idea real talk
Would be a good plot for a Soft-rebooted SR game
@@sizzurpmp3I agree with you
@@og_3rd_st_saint_gatjust play Yakuza, 10x better than anything Volition could do, especially nowadays.
NARC 2005 video please.
Im definitely checking it out soon, it looks really good
12:53 POLAND MENTIONED RAAAAHHHHH, but yes we do have a pretty wide music scene, from rap/hip hop, rock, metal and its sub genres to stuff like even Polish Reggae
Iirc, it's implied in both SRTT and Saints Row IV that they found the body of Gat at some point. May have been a clone left by Zinyak.
as michigander, it is a great honor to have stilwater be located in michigan btw
bunny is under water even secret locations in sr2 should be
You didn’t mention CheapyD’s homie appearance in SR:TT.
Am playing saints row 1 rn .. was looking for music on utube to listen to while i play n saw this vids thumbnaik pop up in recommended 👿⚜️❤️💯💪
Thanks for checking it out holmes! And enjoy your time visiting oldschool Stilwater
damn that polish rant felt personal, by the way I think u forgot the jason mask easter egg in the woods on SR2.
The polish thing was meant to be a throw away joke. I honestly had no idea it would upset so many people lol I thought the Germany comment would’ve been the one that got me dragged tbh
@@sizzurpmp3 Hahahah it was funny but like DAMN I didnt except it as a Pole, apart from that awesome video, really enjoyed it =D
I never saw anyone talk about the sounds coming from certain containers arround SRTT and SR4's map.
3:10 I havr to say that gun is a Ref to the P shooter from Men In Black 1. If you didn't know cause in the movie it was a tiny gun that sent J flying
My theory about the saints being green and then purple is somehow involved the old saints gang who wore green and caused problems with the vice kings and government that the feds and army put them down. Destroyed their old gang sets. And this caused ultor corporation to turn from a clothing company to a mega corporation which handles gentrifying a neighborhood or a city at best. And the Stevenson gentrification project became the model of city remodeling and even building. This inspired the creation of Night City from cyberpunk 2077. The reason they changed their colors from green to purple was due to a few saints gang sets who hated green and were rebellious enough to wear it. As well as had some Ballas from San Andreas move up to Stilwater and turn it into a different gang. And people who lived in Stevenson moved to saints row district. A peaceful suburb neighborhood turned into a new ghetto by the 90s and 2000s. Just a few gang sets who want to become a vigilante gang who saw the anarchy of Stilwater rise and had to protect their local communities and assure that no one should be a statistic. That’s a fiction. A fan fiction.
Finally someone mentions the random falling ped
Protect the Pimp! leader boards were crazy
The noisy cricket is great for super high health bosses like wraiths
Something I did see mentioned here but idk if it even belongs here, in SR2 some songs your character will sing along to it.
This isn't much of a creepy easter of so but in SR1 there are some buildings that you can hear noises coming from them, in the suburbs district in one of the house across the apartment stronghold you can hear someone watching porn as you can hear moaning in there, and in the Cecil Park section of the barrio district on the hair salon across the street of the one you can actually enter you can hear music playing inside of it. Haven't explored the other districts yet to see if there are more buildings that have this happen but might try to see if I can find more.
oh yeah the music in the hair salon only plays during the day and goes silent at night, you have to be right next to the building to hear but you can hear faint Spanish folk music playing inside.
I had a theory about Cyrus temple could it be possible that Jessica from saints row 2 could be Cyrus temples daughter because in sr3 he mentions Jessica about her life before the boss killed her by her own bfs car but it could be a crazy possibility that kenzie could be Jessica sister they have similar comparisons but ones dumb and ones smart in most families they have at least one smart sibling and one black sheep but it could be a possibility there is a connection
That could explain why Cyrus Temple joined STAG in the first place, you're definitely on to something here
The freezer cracked my original saints row 2 copy
Nobody remembers the cancelled game “saints row drive by” that was supposed to release on 3ds and is the only reason I preordered one 😢
I’ve heard rambling of it but wasn’t sure if it was real or not. Would be a great topic for a part 2!