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Every time I post a comment on one of these Kill Counts, I just get blatantly ignored. Also, it seems that every time a new Kill Count video is posted, over hundreds of comments are already post making impossible to find mine or they're just too lazy to scroll down. But for some reason, I just learn to live with it.
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Someone should’ve done a bit of tomfoolery by sneaking a bee into the theatre and letting it go when the character’s summoned Candyman
On the one hand, that would be a scary and fun prank in concept. On the other hand, if that bee stung someone allergic to bee stings it could go horribly wrong. Probably best no one risked it.
@@tanukioh would make it funnier
@@tanukioh would make it funnier
@@tanukioh would make it funnier
@@tanukioh would make it funnier
I just love the parallel of Tony Todd’s Candyman being a painter when he was alive then Anthony growing up to be a painter. Even if he was unaware he was always connected to Candyman
Yes, I saw that as an implication that he could never escape his fate.
I never thought about that before lol
@@geoffreyfyfe2248 That's the Perfect Sentiment. It reflects how all this is Cyclical; It's all happened before, and it'll most likely happen again. All these Candymen were the Victims of Profiling or Abuse, and they all form the Legend through their Similarities, despite being different people.
It’s like poetry sorta they rhyme
Parallel or contrived? I d k yet still trying to process
“I wish Candyman didn’t have to exist,”- that is the most heartbreaking thing I’ve heard regarding themes behind horror movies.
This version is much more difficult to watch compared to the original
SHES FIFTY SIX?! Dude, she looks GOOD.
She looks like she aged five years max between the original and this one, it's insane
Good Black don’t crack! It’s that melanin baby
It’s funny seeing you here Patrick.
When I saw her in the previews before the movie came out, I said the same thing, she's still beautiful 😍
I was gonna say James' hat is backwards, but when he looks in a mirror it looks correct, nice touch!
163 likes? 0 comments? Eh
Is it?
@@miketrapper0464 yea
I didn't even notice that. That is such an amazing detail!!!
I believe that’s actually how they were sent out to market the film. Like the intro credits being backwards
Fun Fact for those who didn’t know. The cellist mentioned at 4:41 is an Oscar winning composer for her score on Joker. She also won an Emmy for her work on Chernobyl.
I knew I recognized that name from somewhere, glad to know she’s still getting work
That promounciation is abysmal tho
She also was a collaborator on Sunn O)))'s _Life Metal_ and _Pyroclasts,_ for all my metalheads out there.
funner fact: my names jack and i do not care less about your "fun" fact
@@whitedom2041 funnest fact, we didn't ask about your rudeness
This is definitely me thinking too deep, but for the original Candyman, I think them cutting off his good hand, as a painter, and replacing it with a hook, feels like it’s sending a message of erasing any beautiful or “good” aspects of him (like how people of color are unfairly vilified, particularly after their deaths) and trying to send him to his death as nothing but a monster.
What the frick are you on about? People of color are glorified now a-days, especially after death, and especially especially after they are killed (except if they are killed by another black person) even if they were in the wrong.
You phrased that really well!
Hmm 🤔 nowadays, it's actually the white ppl who are unfairly vilified. The tables have turned with today's standards, I don't think it should lean heavily in either direction though. Whenever there's a shooting, if it was a white person, it's all over the news no problem, but if it wasn't a white person, no one really covers it out of fear of being deemed racist...haven't you noticed that? Think about it, if someone says black and proud, is widely accepted and cheered on, but if someone says white and proud, lots of eyebrows are raised and it's seen as racist...why? It's okay to be white, mass media wants ppl to believe that white ppl are just inheritly racist. That's so wrong...its actually racist 😕 I'm neither, this is just an observation I've made as an outsider. Having a victim mentality is not healthy for anyone, it makes ppl of color and women seem weak...which we definitely aren't. No one in the USA should have a victim mentality when everything is at our disposal. I could hear James' white guilt when explaining this crappy movie & it was cringe, I didn't even make it to "Let's get to the kills", too pathetic. I don't care to see this movie because Jordan Peele hasn't exactly had a good track record in horror, I was just going to watch this movie via the kill count, I couldn't even make it through that though 🥱🙄
Lmao
That could be something actually. I read on TVtropes that Sherman, the one who handed out candy and was blamed for razors, was corrupted by the hive to be seen as what the tales of him say; that he was the one who put razors in candy. It's shown he was just a strange individual who liked handing out candy and was actually just a nice, if awkward, individual. But when he became a Candyman, that was distorted, asshown in the elevator scene where Anthony got cut by a blade in the piece of candy. It would work with the idea that the original lost what made him "good" and corrupted his image, and could possibly be what happened to the others. Also, isn't Anthony's painting hand chopped off too?
Holy crow, Vanessa E. Williams looks absolutely STUNNING. I really thought they casted an actress younger than the main actor!
My exact thought. She look so young and it isn't "for her age" type young.
For sure.She looks absolutely amazing.
I can't believe she's in her 50s she barely looks like she touched her 30s
I feel bad for Sherman, but also coming out of the wall, and laughing holding candy, is- like really creepy,
Exactly I don't think old Sherman was good in the head and I feel bad but I would do the same thing If i saw a creepy guy singing and crawling out a wall
I feel bad for most of these candymen
That’s life man. And it sucks. I know in high school I was always “off” to people but I was always given the benefit of the doubt. But not everyone gets that.
I'm pretty sure he had some kind of mental issue.
Yeah, like that probably happened during the big "razorblades in candy" scare too
I agree with James that the movie could have been 15-20 minutes longer to really sell that last 3rd act. Burke descending into his bitter true self, Anthony being fully taken over by the Hive, and showing the aftermath of the whole endeavor and how a character like Brianna would cope with everything.
Totally agree! Honestly, I feel like Burke turning into who he really is could've been way more compeling and believable if the third act was longer. I still think they had some Director's Cut version where that part is longer because it feels cut in half.
The alternate ending kind of gives that last one.
@@marcoc7388 Oh, I hope so.
So long
He said 10, but I agree
The 92 movie was interesting because the “main characters” didn’t have home court advantage. The urban legend was a puzzle they became obsessed with solving, and curiosity killed the cat. The 2021 theme was more about fate, and if it could be prevented. Anthony’s mother had her house protected by “haint blue” to keep her safe from danger. The obsession was the opened door to the victims in both cases. I enjoyed both
From what I could tell, the movie was also trying to show how stories can change over time. Though we the audience know that Helen Lyle was a hero who saved Anthony that night, her story evolved to make her into a villain. For the third act, I'm starting to think that Burke got it in his head somehow that he could change the story of Candyman in the same way, turning him from a murderer into a protector
When it mentioned a little boy was one of the candy men, plus the end credit scene it made me realize it was about the very real George Stinney who was a kid sent to the electric chair after wrongly accused of murder. It’s heartbreaking that it is all based on real tragedy
Another one with the man carried by a racist white people was real as well, James Byrd Jr.
Damn, bit weird how he would act as a candy man though, he’s like 8 how tf is he able to kill people?
@@natebox4550 He was falsely accused of it. This was during the Jim crow era.
@@liyahtw8505 I meant the little boy.
@@natebox4550 im talking about the little boy as well. Just trying to educate you more about it.
Thank you for talking about the score, the music is half the experience. So many channels don’t even bother mentioning the composers name, so as a young beginning composer for film thank you so much for including little information like his approach, reasoning, and techniques he did. Seriously one of the best KZhead channels in the world, thanks for all you do for us James!
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For real. The score was AMAZING.
This is why I love watching dead meat they have so much information as well as the kill count
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Dead meat does this a lot
10:30 It’s so cool that you can see the Candyman in the mirror actually taking a swing before her throat gets slit.
g c 2 7
As a black woman, you're absolutely right. I STILL would NEVER do that shit, not Candyman, not Bloody Mary, none of them. & Teyonah Parris was a mood when she saw that basement, I wouldn't go down either. I love that you mentioned she's more crafty than usual horror movie characters & I love that. Alright, off to watch The Forever Purge Kill Count lol
I can't help but mention that Tony Todd's cameo at the end was simply perfect
damn comment spoiled me again
Fun fact: The original ending was supposed to be Brianna putting up an art gallery with all of Anthony's artworks about all the Candyman in his memory
@@harleylaufeyson6136 The script went through a lot of re-writes. In one version, Anthony was summoning Heather, Prucell's relative (I believe? Might be Prucell himself, I forget) plays the role that Burk does at the end and the finale is Brianna talking to Anthony's mother about the nature of Candyman (again, if I remember correctly). Wish that the film having 3 writers and re-writes wasn't felt as much as it is in the final film.
@@q-miiproductions878 if you hate him, just block him
@@cheeseslimeinconstantpain Its not the original one its a fake account 😂
My daughter is an art history student and she was very excited about the art/use of light shows throughout the film, and recognized the influence of Kara Walker's work right away. The amount of effort, research, and care put into all these elements shows! Shoutout to everyone involved! Candyman is an amazingly done film, with the featured art, the phenomenal score, and of course the terrific cast!! Thx for covering this one James!
I absolutely love seeing the influence her work had with the shadow puppets. I saw some of her work at my local art museum and did some research for a paper I was doing in my Art course.
Oooo I didn’t catch that at first. Damn that’s good
Man, I felt so bad about Sherman (the innocent guy that was just giving out candy) getting killed. He reminded me of some family members and good people I know that don't have a malicious atom in their body.
i worked in a theater when this movie came out and i never saw the whole movie through but trust me cleaning empty theaters in the dark with that end credit sequence playing was so scary
The bee sting after-effects body horror had my trypophobia kicking into high gear. Props to the make-up team, for disgustingly perfect work. Another great Kill Count from James- we will miss him!
Where's he going??
@@Hayanomie James is taking a 1/2 year hiatus from the Kill Count, effective after the holidays
@@KidFresh71 omg 🥺🥺🥺 i’m glad he’s getting a break though
@@KidFresh71 WHAT?!?!
Same. I have a pretty iron stomach and I’m fine with all the usual gross stuff; blood, piss, shit, puke, pus, etc. But the effects of his skin genuinely make me cringe from how gross they looked.
Tony Todd is just a frigging legend when it comes to voicing or playing villainous characters. Hell I'm excited for his voice performance as Venom in the Marvels Spiderman 2 game coming in 2023. I too was ashame that Tony was barely in the film too but overall this was a solid movie.
Him not being in the movie honestly ruined the whole thing for me call me shallow
Not going to lie. I fan girl squealed when I heard his voice at the end. Which is probably what I'll do if I even meet the man in real life (to my eternal embarrassment)
@@claratalbot7613 and then you asked where the fuck was he the entire movie. Okay maybe you didn’t but I know I did
@@kingsman5121 Lol. No I didn't but after I squealed I said I missed u buddy
aaaa im so excited for him as venom!!!! he seems like the perfect choice for him and im really looking forward to that performance :”))
I had a coworker tell me not to watch Candyman because it was pushing a “black lives matter” message too hard and my local movie theater only had it playing for 3 days before they got too many complaints to stop showing it. Just for context, I live in a small town whose population is 2/3 white and 1/3 latino. All my friends and I saw it, and even though there are moments I didn’t like (didn’t feel too much like a horror movie), overall I enjoyed the movie. It was an interesting look at how urban legends can be used to comment on modern day horrors.
The constant reminder that racism is bad is a common thing in Peele films. It's pretty annoying.
@@Ghost-fe1vp I think that’s just his brand. I like his way of confronting racism in horror and generally bringing more black actors into light
@@Ghost-fe1vp you sound like a racist
Its a tough pill to swallow considering the current state of the BLM movement being an utter sham and the whole "cultural phenomon' was purely created to line someones pockets and abuse peoples good faith.
@@zeecaptain3520 I would say the GROUP did that rather than the movement itself. When it was commodified and those selfish people took the money to buy themselves houses and whatever else I think the message was lost
Fun fact: Librarian is actress Cassie Kramer - she was originally cast - and filmed scenes - as the final burnt 'ghost' version of Helen Lyle. You can see her in the church pews in the first released trailer for the movie. They cut the entire part in the edit, but she was invited back for the reshoots done in the library.
As ironic as this may seem, this is definitely one of my top "comfort" channels. I love how this channel gives credit to everyone that is shown and provides little tidbits about them, from the soundtrack's author to even the soundtrack author's celloist.
Yeah. He’s great for this. And I appreciate it
I love that when you see Clive getting killed, you can see Candyman in the reflections of the walls, floor, and windows. It's a nice piece of attention to detail
How is that continuity? In the original everyone could see him without a mirror or window and he’s invisible on camera
@@axelnilsson5124 the mirror theme.
Candyman is also randomly in reflections and mirrors throughout the entire movie. I think it really added to the feeling of paranoia when you would randomly see him lurking.
@@axelnilsson5124 depends on the perspective dudeb
@@axelnilsson5124 sorry i used the wrong wording I meant attention to detail
The girl who left deserves a “smartest horror movie character” award(from the bathroom scene)
Indeed 😂 cause I don't think I would have been in there playing with that either
I only found this channel a little while ago but I’m blown away by how much you talk and inform about the movie for it being a “kill count” I have learned so much about some of these movies and what truly goes into them.
The shadow puppetry was friggin phenominal. I would love to see a full length film told this weay. Or evern several shorts. Its so errier but the message is sooooo loud its defaning. Absolutly beautiful.
Have you seen the newer Dark Crystal series on Netflix?!?! It was puppets, doing shadow puppetry and it was excellent!
@@RealBradMiller I've come across it on Netflix but not watched it, I'll have to Gove it ago!
It reminds me of Harry potter when Luna lovegoods dad is telling Harry Ron and Hermione about the story of the three brothers.
The actress who played the art critic was actually originally cast as Helen, and straight into shooting, Helen was the main antagonist of the film. Dacosta wrote that out sometime into filming. You can see her as Helen in the first trailer, and a draft of the script is online as well.
Interesting. Wonder why she was written out
@Simon Petrikov Probably wasn’t her idea but Jordan Peele‘s. And when she noticed that it didn’t fit into her vision of the movie she cut it out.
Antagonist?
I remember reading that someone else had been cast as Helen before the movie came out. Honestly, I like that Virginia Madsen did a sort of cameo in the final version, even if Helen's "legend" got shafted.
I was reading up on Hildur Guðnadóttir’s work like 5 minutes ago. She was the main composer for HBO’s Chernobyl and used the same strategy of natural sounds on site to create the score. Her work on this movie and Chernobyl is really good at setting the tone of the movie.
She was also the main composer for Joker, and won her an Oscar
@@lonelysatoshi2482ok
I love watching Kill Counts. I’m someone who’s never actually watched a horror film. I grew up VERY sheltered, and though there are horror films I want to see as a young film student, I’m not sure I’m mentally ready for the whole horror film experience. Watching Kill Count helps me to get used to the horror genre, teaches me about iconic film aspects, and gives me a plot without awakening any trauma. I know from watching Kill Count that there are horror films I need to add to my watchlist, and those to add to my “never watch” list. It’s a really nice way to experience horror as someone with trauma triggers; having someone there to crack jokes along the way and make the experience much less anxiety-attack inducing. So, from a disabled “scaredy-cat”, thank you for this series!!
Same with me!
Same
Hearing Tony Todd say that he wishes Candyman didn't have to exist, is sincerely moving. I grew a tear in my eye. Great cover of the film, James. Your pod was great too, cred to Chelsea.
it's sad that such tragedies take place in our world.
It hits close to home
i mean its based on a story from the UK and about white people so he doesnt exist lol.
@@queeffersthrlnd1620 Missing the point completely but ok
oh please
James does more then just count the kills, and I can appreciate that.
He does amazing film critiques
I hate his incessant pandering to all people of color. Among many other things.
@@JackTorrance333 ok
@@JackTorrance333 huh? Bro are we watching the same thing? Because he is not pandering
@@JackTorrance333 you’re racist, pal
I love the fact that he is giving a lot of background information about the artists behind the movie!
I'd actually quite like to see 'The Forbidden' turned into a movie. There's not enough British horror movies but when they are made they tend to be pretty good. A take on the UK class system would be very watchable.
You won’t get it, the media hates the working class and uses racial divisions to ignore them
Omg yes
I absolutely LOVE the interpretation of him floating with his head covered in bees That visual alone is insanely awesome. The surrealism is so unnearving
Yeah it is 💯🐝 .. just wish more was in place in this movie .. Where’s Bloody Mary at ? Y’all forgot about her 🤨
Even though the ending feels rushed, I really love how the story played out. The shadow puppet segments were my favorite moments.
for me, the movie feels like it's an endless buildup that gets distracted until it realizes there are only 10 minutes to go and needs to wrap up...I thought it was very well acted and shot but written terribly from a pacing issue and a fair amount of clunky dialogue
@@mlghitler251 seems to be a theme in movies related to Peele lmao
@@ItsRyanHello I don't feel that way about US or Get Out
@@mlghitler251 Get Out was good US was awful
@@ItsRyanHello I actually enjoyed it a little more personally but I think both are great original horror
Best part of the movie by far was Tony Todd’s cameo. Should’ve had more Candyman scenes with him
Nah to me it’s definitely the puppets
@@miketrapper0464 Puppets were sick too. I’d put that second though
@@chase6846 for sure, i know Tony Todd’s cameo was cool but it was so obviously CGI deaged, it’s okay though I excuse it
@@miketrapper0464 Very true. I was just so anxious to see him the whole time, I wouldn’t have cared if he looked like a cartoon lol
@@chase6846 there definitely are worse de ageing effects in other movies
Great kill count! You missed the point of the burke scene from his sister getting killed I think. I think it shows why he became obsessed with candyman and the legend. He was already traumatized by the candyman's actual beating by police but what sent him over the edge was watching him come back as a spirit and kill his sister. He literally saw the birth of the real live boogeyman. I would argue that would mess anyone up.
I always love how these movies tie with each with their originals
What do you mean these movies? Just curious..
@@Mrking813 the original movies like Friday the 13, Nightmare on Elm Street , or The Candyman. All of those
@@liamflanner2440 and Halloween
@@miketrapper0464 yep can’t forget Halloween
@@liamflanner2440 how can you forget leprechaun returns???
The fact that James recorded this in front of a mirror shows how brave he really is
RIP James
Oh crap yeah💀
The amount of times this man probably said candyman
I honestly can't bring myself to like this movie. The gothic feeling from the original is so much better.
The excited gasp and shout of “ANTHONY” i gave when i saw it was kosart effects studio!! Love that dude, incredibly talented, winner of face-off and generally a very kind guy to talk to (even over just twitter!)
What happened to the north side missionary church was just horrific, completely destroyed one of Chicago's iconic landmarks.
Correct, it was a beautiful symbol of equality
And then covered it in white, to give it a more suitable tone, is the meaning of white wash.
@@heatheraucoin5832 I don't think many people are into the idea of churchs with dead people on the sides.
I’m so glad Brianna survived through. She was so smart in her decisions and I think she is such a likable character
I really be trying to not snap right now at yo blatant racism. Saying she's smart and how nice it is. My man, u saying we ain't smart? That seeing a smart blackcwoman is shocking to you? You may not want our black race to rub shoulders with yall but we done with white Supremecy tactics u seem to thrive with. Please allow me to educate you on the REAL history of black folk and why whitey saw us as a threat so they ebslaved us
"Exploited" haha chill. She was writing a research paper, not making a Black Dynamite movie
I really love how these always go into the details of filming and props to the people involved.
The original is one of my favorites the themes are extremely effective, but end up being more subtle than this film, I have a few gripes with this movie, but overall I REALLY enjoyed the new one, the multiple Candyman is genius because urban legends evolve and there’s staples of each legend, but some of the specificities are different, it does mean less Tony Todd which is a shame, but it’s still great and beautiful to look at
I'm with you, One-hundred Percent. Alot of people say this Movie isn't Subtle (and it really isn't Subtle at all), but the working of the movies Themes and Narratives into the plot work because of the Cast. We're given Anthony's story, shown what happened to him and, as James said, Reminded that all the Candymen were real people, real human beings, who were the victim of some form of tragedy. I love it because, as you say, that's how urban legends form. The idea of Multiple Candymen forming one Collective figure represents how myths are born from multiple accounts and multiple stories. The Tragedy of America's history with Racism, and it's consistent reoccurrence in Modern times Made Candyman, and this movie, Subtle or Not, explored these themes expertly through Narrative, strong character writing, and beautiful Cinematography.
That’s actually one of my biggest complaints, they throw every single thing in your face with this movie and after a while it does nothing but annoy the majority of people even if we agree with what they are saying
@@OhWowThatsDumb i feel like this movie is a bit overrated by rotten tomatoes
@@OhWowThatsDumb that's hitting the nail directly on the head the worst example of that in my opinion is honestly the ending with the cops it genuinely just feels like the creators pointing at the screen and saying "do you get it"
@@virtualcynical8515 Honestly, that's the problem with the movie, too upfront about everything, I honestly compared it to Santa's Sleigh, except actually good, but still, when it comes to horror movies, Horror first, politics second, that's where Candyman falls, especially the jabs at white people
After only starting to watch these kill counts in the last couple of weeks this series has become one of my favourite on KZhead! Thank you James 😁😁😁
Welcome to the rabbit hole
@@drewwuorinen9473 better late than never
@@drewwuorinen9473 damn thats crazy but who asked. Better late than never
I found the first Friday the 13th kill count a few days after it was released loved this channel ever since
More Meatheads! Always love to see them! Welcome to the crew!
I didn't think about it until 13:50, but I wonder if this was put in as literal red-lining.
Right, loved how it matched tho 😮😂
15:08 so glad they kept his story the same. Also I never knew that happened to the church, that's so upsetting in so many ways man
I really like Brianna’s character, I wish we got a bit more of her.
i think the sequel will have her as the main character.
@@willhuey4462 I hope so. She’d be perfect. She’s smart, likable, and empathetic. All traits you need for a good protagonist.
Not to mention she is actually a smart horror character that's so rare to see.
She smart as hell for avoiding a lot of areas in which other characters willingly go through for some reason. She decided not to descend to the basement. I love how she looked at the darkness in the basement and was like “nope.”
@@mysterygirl0423 she was also smart to summon candyman to kill the police at the end but that could come back to bite her in the ass in the sequel.
Anthony who was on the makeup crew actually won a season of Face Off, like Nora from the fanmade Jason video. He's insanely talented and I'm happy seeing him in the horror genre!
I thought he looked familiar!
Isnt face that one show that premiered in the Sci Fi channel?
@@olgagachaphoenix9130 Yes! It’s very good though it ended a few years ago with 13 seasons though all seasons are on Hulu.
I've watched this Kill Count a dozen times and somehow never registered that Jordan Peele was involved with this film. That explains why it resonates so much more than the first one did. They were a phenomenal team, DaCosta and Peele.
10:28 Fun fact: you can see candyman’s solute in the mirror during this kill
Candyman's legend is terrifying and very sad because he was created by people, unlike other entities like Slenderman. James did such a great job making the kill counts and not making much jokes like he usually does. Thank you for the kill count even though you're busy James. Stay safe you guys.
Although screw the slender man movie
Ever heard of the ring or the grudge...
What do you mean? Slenderman was literally made by people....
@@christopherbennett6571 They mean like Slenderman's origin was that he was sorted created on his own, in Canydman's lore the people being killed by other hate filled people led to Candyman being made
@@ggdiamonz5029 Slenderman's whole deal is that he's a thought form
I love the cinematography in this film and the kills but I really feel this movie hits and misses in many spots
@The Badderman what the fuck are you talking about
@The Badderman No you don't, you're too poor to even own a sofa for yourself.
@The Badderman dont care didnt ask not scared
@The Badderman What?
@The Badderman HAHAHAHAHAH people don’t have to like a movie just because a black person directed it or starred in it? are you delusional
Tony Todd's rich, deep haunting voice is as iconic as James Earl Jones.
Agreed!
I think Candyman might be one of the few horror characters to genuinely strike a chord with me.
I love the idea of James trying out different ways to get into the Numbers Void and writing down all the ones that work.
He's not just the man, he's the whole damn hive. He's James A Janesse, and this has been the Kill Count.
Now say James full name five times in a row
@@mortenu.5606 James A Janesse. James A Janesse. James A Janesse. James A Janesse. James A Janesse.
21:10 Me after i see a drak room
The production of this movie is absolutely beautiful, while the original movie will always be my favorite, this one captured my heart too. I always love how this channel goes so much more in depth than just counting kills too, it's so awesome...
6:14 HOLY FUCK! This man is build like a statue carved out of marble, he looks amazing!
My New Hollywood Crush
@@skrimper it’s called steroids dude. That physique isn’t attainable naturally. Another example of Hollywood creating unattainable standards
@@knoxynyr87 okay bud
@@knoxynyr87 😛
People don't have an issue with social messages in films. People have an issue when it's forced/blunt. Subtly is very important when doing so
Exactly, you don't see people getting angry at lotr for its social messages
It wasn't the bluntness for me, it was that the message didn't fit with the movie even a little. Why try and make the Candyman some sort of antihero emblematic of racial trauma when he'd just as soon kill a young black girl for locking her brother out of the room and saying his name in the mirror... because now he's the kind of urban legend you could prove in a lab setting because saying his name has a 100% success rate of having him bust in like the Kool-Aid Man.
SOME people definitely care when there’s a social message regardless
So they DO have an issue with social messages in films lol
@@JShocks7 You can argue Legally Blonde has a social message, what's your point?
I thought this was gonna be freaking amazeballs, but the ending was…well, less than desirable (esp from a Jordan Peele production and writing credit). It’s still a pretty good effort to reboot a series that was ruined by terrible sequels. The shadow pepper tree is probably my favorite part. That is just so cool.
I was really shocked when you said the actress that played the mother was 56 I thought that was his sister at first
Even though I didn't like the story and the lack of Tony Todd, DiCosta's direction is undeniably fantastic and the score is a character all on its own!
Finding out that the original concept was about class issues made me more interested than the “adapted” concept they made the movies about. I swear 9 times out of 10 times any movie “exploring” issues like race, gender or sex always seem to feel like they are talk down to the audience.
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus Sounds like bitter straight white dude syndrome
@@zachiswayposi1 awww are you scared your privileged position might be in danger if all the peasants stop fighting each other? Good :). Stay mad sjw you’ll be against the wall soon enough.
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus A straight white dude trying to call other people privileged would be hilarious if it wasn’t so astronomically lacking in self awareness Also, maybe you can help me out. Why do conservatives think sjw is an insult? “Oh you want equal rights for everyone? Lol okay!” I mean that never really made sense so hopefully you can explain it.
@@zachiswayposi1 “whaaa care about muh made up social issues instead of my privlage!” - you 2021. Stay mad sjw people are getting wise to your type lol.
I think the burke flashback is meant to represent how he's been traumatised by both the candyman legend and the police killing.
I absolutely love how in the end, candyman practically becomes a vigilante.
Missed opportunity to have this whole episode backwards & have a candy man action figure or something peaking out of some random spot that has a reflection within every james cut
I love how James with all his kill counts can make a gruesome or dark movie turn into a upbeat, cut to the chase documentary with also facts surrounding the movie that are interesting and lifts you out of a dark or gruesome scene he just showed. Gotta love is cheerful attitude to everything.
I believe just one final conversation between Burke and an ailing Anthony would've made the end reveal a little more digestible. Maybe have Burke talk about how Helen Lyle hijacked the Candyman legend and he wants Anthony to take it back by fulfilling his destiny and becoming a Candyman legend. Maybe have the line, "Welcome home, Anthony."
Lol that's just pure unnecessary exposition. Would be awful, the film does not need a character to tell us what the film just spent over an hour telling us.
I wish that they went further into depth with Burke showing his true colors. Would’ve made the way more entertaining and a lot less confusing. But overall I like the line at the end, “tell everyone” since it fits amazingly with the message of the movie. And I like how the message isn’t repeating throughout the movie but shown, if that makes any sense.
Something I noticed. In the first Candyman movie, I believe that Tony Todd’s interpretation of Candyman felt similar to Doug Bradley’s interpretation of Pinhead in the first 2 Hellraiser movies, a subtle authoritative performance. It is in contrast to Sherman Fields being more direct just like Hellraiser 3-10 Pinhead.
James: 'Is honey pie even a real thing?!' Me: *sings 'Honey Pie - Johnny Utah'*
Excited as always to see a kill count on Sunday
Wtf is your profile picture
It helps me get through the week
I'm at the beach watching this. Such a vibe
monday for me
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Honestly one of my favorite all time youtubers, always great quality and entertaining. Keep up the good work!
My opinion about social issues in movies is that I’m down with including them as long as the cast and crew are still able to make a good movie with it. I find that sometimes people get too focused on their message and can forget to prioritize or apply proper care and attention to the other aspects of the film.
This.
Basically describing any movies made/produced by Jordan Peele lmao
Exhibit A: Black Christmas 2019.
For real, it's fine to have social commentary, but it just seems offensive when it's too heavy handed
It's just sad that every modern Hollywood movie has to have some work bullshit in it. The only reason these movies are made isn't because people want a sequel, It's because they want to push a false narrative. Ex. black hate crimes. It makes law enforcement look bad when It really isn't at all
Her lil thing at 18:04 was the CUTEST. Thank you for including it.
cute?
10:31 after watching all 3 of the first candyman movies where the kills are built up and shown in gory detail, seeing him this reflection with no other warning really suprised me, a real good first kill
I truly appreciate you James and Chelsea for this. I know it’s your job but you do it beautifully
I literally wanted to just hear James' intro to the movie, now I'm going to find and watch it. The fact that there were issues but it overall seems like a reasonably positive review gave me the motivation to seek it out (even though I'd been meaning to watch it for months now, but needed to find a safe way to do so).
I enjoyed it
Everything was good until it got close to the end
Movie was just pro ooga da
@@damoncarroll6581 how so
I was damn near screaming when Tony Todd showed up. Candyman was my first horror movie and yes there are moments (two specifically for me) in this film that I think could of been changed but overall I LOVED IT SO MUCH
Wasn't til watching this that I caught the motif of "cycles" throughout the film is symbolically represented by the laundry guy being the one who is out to continue the cycle of Candyman. Laundry cycles, jeez how did I miss something that on the nose lol
Fun Fact or at least fun for me, Troy Cartwright (seen here 5:18) was played by British actor Nathen Stewart-Jarett who was from my favourite shows of all time Misfits
17:56 she’s 56 are you kidding me she looks 30!
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While I certainly wasn't super into the depiction of Candyman in this movie as a martyr figure I could gel pretty well with the haunting score and beautiful visuals. However the movie really did lose me in the third act, where it felt like went off the rails a bit.
Candyman was a martyr figure in the first film as well lmao
@@DavidJones-bz3cz no he was seen as a boogeyman. No one in the first film was “awwwww poor Candyman.”
@@gravesidepoet5405 Eh, when you hear his story you I though "awwww, poor Tony Todd", because he was a tragic villain.
@@seventeenseventythirteen7465 not really. I was quite indifferent. I tend to be that way unless I’m directly involved.
@@gravesidepoet5405 Oh, I meant you as in the more universal sense. Not specifically you.
What a movie! I saw Candyman in theaters but watching this kill count really opened my eyes and learning a little bit of its history made me appreciate this film a lot more. 👏
I love the metaphors in Candyman and how it subtly talks about how, through the generations, stories get twisted and practically rewritten until it's basically a new story+The rewriting of history to shed light on the true story without any interference !!
I enjoyed this Kill Count as well as the podcast James and Chelsea did about this movie. They complement each other to perfection.
Really sucks Tony Todd did not appear more in the movie, but at least he made a brief appearance which is fine enough.
To be fair, i feel it was a good choice to not rely so much on nostalgia
Honestly they put him at the very worst place possible. Structurally this movie makes some really bad choices in the third act.
No, he should have stayed far away from this shit
@@punklover99 it’s a good movie
@@Sosodefkid hes ranting in every comment that says something slightly positive about this movie
I’m so glad you pointed out that the one actress looks like Virginia Madsen because when I saw this in theaters I was freaking out cause I thought it was her for a second and I was like “how does no one else notice this?!” 😂😂
9:53 Fits perfectly
Its so cool to see J. Anthony Kosar doing effects for a horror movie. He's a family friend and he's a really cool guy.
0:53 "She is in fact six months younger than me, which yes, is a weird thing to realize..." Me scrolling through Facebook seeing my graduating class getting married and having kids, while I sit back, eating chips, watching a man on the internet count deaths in horror movies.
I graduated in 2020 qnd my old classmates are already more successful. I feel your pain
I do get the message but regardless if I was young and a man came through my wall and offered me candy, whatever race, I would either run or throw a punch and then run so I don't think that specific part should be treated as a race thing
9:58 “yea i did biiiiiitch” probably the best line in the entire movie 😂