How A Deal Between The Caps & Sabres Turned Into The Rangers Acquiring SHESTERKIN | Trade Trees
2022 ж. 4 Там.
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Steve Dangle breaks down how a small 2014 trade deadline deal between the Buffalo Sabres and Washington Capitals involving Jaroslav Halak turned into a big fish landing with the New York Rangers.
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What’s funny is that now shesty and halak are a tandem going into the next season.
Halak will be a better back up,for the Rangers.
Gonna be a lot funnier when shesterkin gets hurt bc he’s carrying too much of the load and halak puts up a 3.60 gaa.
@@Ell-J ehhhhhhhhhhh
So some whiny Caps fans might say, "Can't believe we gave the Rangers Shesterkin and now they also have the goalie that Halaked the Caps in the 1st round of the 2010 playoffs!"
Bruh, you beat me to it, but yes... Igor is starter, Halak will just back him up.
Finally, the legendary trade tree’s are back. At this point they might be becoming more frequent than bardown quizzes.
There seems to be recycled BarDown quiz questions for Stump a Steve.
@@NYMetsNo1 I mean, at least they somewhat changed it by guessing cup final losers instead of winners.
@@stentorofsparta3576 1) C on the right side of the jersey 2) Teams' all time points leaders 3) Canadiens SC with more than 25 team league ALL BarDown quiz questions
@@NYMetsNo1 yeah, and all common fun fact hockey trivia questions. They aren’t unique to just bardown, bozo.
its not that, during the regular season he does the live games and lfr, so he has no time for them while the games are on, he usually does about 8 every offseason
"Make a trade with the mid-2010s Buffalo Sabres you'll probably win the Cup"...indeed, the Avs don't win one this year without JT Compher. The axiom remains true.
It would be helpful for future trade trees to differentiate between the Islanders and the Rangers on the labels. I got very confused looking at the graphic with “To New York” everywhere
Well if you listen you’d hear what team it applies to
@@Deenaziamazinjg14 some people are more visual learners, that’s the whole point of the graphic. To visually explain what Steve is saying. But screw me for wanting a clearer diagram right?
U rite
@@EightMilesHigh1966 ah so you are the type who just sees the thumbnail and moves on. Got it.
@@JerBuster77 My bad for having a hard time keeping all the info from a 20 minute video straight in my head? But if you watch the Selanne trade tree… they listened to me.
What's funny is Halak's initial trade from Montreal also ended up helping Washington win the cup (Eller).
The TJ Oshie to Washington trade tree is really good. Although the Caps' side stops with Oshie, St Louis ends up acquiring guys like Schenn and O'Reilly
And the Caps ended up acquiring the Stanley Cup. Fleece imho
@@natekeller1569 so did st louis?
As a lifelong blues fan Oshie was my favorite player for the blues for like EVER and never thought I would forgive St. Louis Blues management for that trade then it lead to us getting Schenn and O’Reilly
@@natekeller1569 Buddy, the Blues won it, too.
As a Sabres fan I feel the need to point out that you really didn't kill Tim Murray and Sabres enough for how bad this trade was. Neuvirth had been outplayed by Grubauer for the backup spot and Washington had been trying to trade him for a couple months. The Sabres expected Klesla to play for them and even though Klesla had been in the AHL for most of 13-14 he still refused to play for Buffalo and retired right after the trade. The Capitals got the veteran backup goalie they wanted for the playoffs, they got a 3rd rd pick and they got rid of two contracts they were desperate to get rid of. They gave up nothing in this deal.
Oh yeah, that was when Washington had this guy from Saskatchewan named Brayden Holtby as their starter.
And now, Halak is Shesterkin’s teammate on the Rangers. 🤷🏻♂️ The knife is fully turned for the Caps.
We got a cup, we're fine with this. Gotta make sacrifices
Lol. I don’t think Shesterkin getting drafted with a traded 4th round pick is that much of a dunk on the Caps. He went 118th. That’s a lot of picks by every team ahead of him.
The Islanders picked Sorokin in the 2nd round in 2014. Once the Shesterkin/Sorokin rivalry really gets going, I doubt the Islanders and their fans are going to regret giving up that 4th.
Remember when Samsonov was supposed too part of that
Imagine if the Isles never trade that pick and have a tandem of Sorokin and Shesterkin.
Imma be honest sorokin ain't gonna be at shesty's level
@@dylanroy9504 soro had top 5 stats in all categories this year, I think he has a big chance to be at his level
@@rohanbegg7619 Sorokin was also playing behind a team who's entire mindset was "prevent goals 1st, score goals 2nd". It'll be really interesting to see how he does without the support of a Barry Trotz system.
Great to see trade trees back in the offseason, easily a highlight to rush and watch the moment I find them. One of my favorite trees with a story is how trading Teemu Selanne to the Sharks in 2001 helps the Ducks win the Stanley Cup... with Teemu Selanne. Ducks get Steve Shields, Jeff Friesen, and a 2003 2nd. The pick gets packaged with another 2003 2nd for a 2003 1st, which turns into Corey Perry. Friesen is involved in a big trade, but the important part is Commodore and Damphousse, who get traded for Rob Niedermayer. Maybe not the Niedermayer you hoped for, but finding articles from when they signed Scott is that he wanted to win a cup with his brother. Part of the tree? No. Good story? Oh yes.
Would be clearer to use "Long Island" for the Isles a la NHLPA '93 rather than "New York" for multiple teams.
Needs to do the Karlsson trade. The landscape of that deal is wildly different from where people thought it was at the time
Think it would be a great time to revisit that one. Looks so much different then when it happened
The true gem of summer Trade tree
Hiring Adam Oates is also what led them to not hitting playoffs
As a die hard Caps fan, I'm not even bitter about Shesterkin ending up with the Rangers. Drafting players can be so unpredictable at times. I believe Henrik Lundqvist was a 7ith round pick(so all teams messed up in not drafting him). You need a bit of luck and great scouting to find players past the 4th round that turn out to have good/great NHL careers. This trade tree and how some players ended up being very good, probably has happened to almost every NHL team. It's just hind sight and not much can be done to prevent it other than not making a certain trade to begin with, accidentally.
Holtby was drafted in the 4th round
@@TheWondermittens Holtby and Shesterkin are some exceptions and not the norm. You are more than likely not gonna find a starting franchise goalie in the 4th round or later. If you do, then you need to have a very good goalie coach to develop that goalie well.
As a Ranger fan I agree they have one of the greatest goalie coaches of all time in Benoit Allaire which helps but luck does play a factor and seems this trade benefited both teams caps get a cup and Rangers can continue to have the opportunity with Shesty only loser in the trade tree in Buffalo lol but still to go from Richter to Hank to Shesty in a row is a privilege I will always take for granted as a fan
*INTERESTING RELATED FACT:* *_This tree actually STARTED with Alexander Mogilny and Paul Cyr way, wayyyyy back down the line, in which, could be some compensation for the horrifically useless end to this tree for the Sabres._*
I'd love to see the Jordan Staal trade tree. It's quite extensive and helped the pens get their back to back cups
Just finished re-watching the old Trade Tree videos, and was wondering when they would return. And behold, he is back!
Just a small consideration to make, if it is possible to differentiate between the Islanders and Rangers that would be great. Ideas: New York I/New York R or then just use NYI or NYR
The Return Of The King
Absolutely love these. Keepem coming!
I think this is the trade tree that Steve tried to ask Allan Walsh about how it came about, which Steve mentioned on the Steve Dangle Podcast. It would've been really cool hearing Allan's take on Halak being traded twice in a week, but alas he was too busy with the Huberdeau deal and his 100 other clients. Also Sabres: always a good sign when someone researching a deal needs to ask someone involved what the hell you were thinking.
Welcome back. Love these
That pick from New Jersey for Seigenthaler was acquired from the Hall trade to Arizona, so I'm viewing this as a Trade Tree Crossover episode
Yaaaaaaay !!! Finally new trade trees. Been talking about them on the podcast and ive been patiently waiting
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE MORE TRADE TREES OMG THESE VIDEOS ARE MY FAVOURITE ❤️
Hey Steve! If you're ever looking for an Idea for a trade tree, the deal between Atlanta and Ottawa between Dany Heatley and Marian Hossa is still active on Ottawa's side of things! I did some digging and some other trades involved were the Dion Phaneuf to Ottawa trade as well as his trade to LA, and a trade to Tampa involving Gaborik's contract for Coburn and Paquette (Paquette was used to bring back Dzingle in 2021) An asterisk branch would be Hoffman being shipped with Donaghey (Part of Phaneuf to Ottawa) for Boedker and Bergman, and then Bergman being attached to the Matt Duchene to Colombus
Glad your back Steve!!!
Yay Welcome back thank you Steve!!
Hallelujah , the best series of NHL YT content is back!
I still want to see you doing the 1999 Draft day trade tree that got the Canucks the Sedins.
I went through the caps trade history and realized they traded the pick for shesterkin.. Cried myself to sleepthat night
Yesss Steve... We need more trade trees 😀
Steve. I missed you.. I miss hockey. October can't get here soon enough
I had a feeling that this trade tree would ultimately happen
Sportsnet can you make a video of all the goalie trades that happened in the offseason? I have a list but i would like to know where the goalies landed.
Words can’t describe how much I love these trade trees.
Nathan Walker is on the Caps championship shirt with jerseys of all the players on it and Nathan Walker is there. BUT! in what I think is a nod to him being an Aussie, instead of listing his jersey with the forwards he is all the way at the bottom of the shirt with the goalies.
if that is legitimately the reason, that is awesome lmao
Oh ya. Waiting all year for these.
Yet another chapter in the never-ending adventure that is the Buffalo Sabres ...
It's funny how Washington would acquire Halak, a goalie who gave the Capitals PTSD four years earlier in a first round series against Montreal, where Halak started in place of an injured Carey Price.
i love how the background music sounds like toontown boss battle music
Love this stuff
Steve you gotta do the tree when Hartford acquires the pick for Pronger! Lots of big names and future captains included in that tree 😁
If you want to do another trade tree involving the Caps, look at the Rod Langway trade with Montreal, one that is credited with keeping the Caps in Washington. As a Leafs fan, Steve would be happy that Montreal got absolutely fleeced in that trade, while Washington got a TON of assets.
Yay! Trade tree! I love those
Plot twist: All chess games played on a chess board are 3D
Goligoski to Dallas trade tree? Videos are awesome!
Being a Devils fan watching those 13 Shootout losses, I still can't believe it too this day
Just a small editing / mixing comment - the "beebeep" sound when the trades pop up on the screen is *way* louder than Steve talking - I've noticed this on previous trade tree videos as well. Should be maybe 6dB quieter in the mix.
I’m so glad trade tree’s are back. Hopefully the Trevor Linden trade tree is coming soon
we need a renberg to tampa trade tree video… it would probably be twice if not 3x the length of this one lol
We love your trees steve
FINALLY ITS BACK!!
UPDATE: William Lockwood is a Vancouver Canuck
Having a 0.930 sv% and going 5-4-3 is absolutely insane. Obviously 12 games is a way smaller sample size than a season, but that save percentage over a season would win you the Vezina most years Edit: Halak's career arc is crazy. Looking at more stats, he really is one of the better goalies of the 2010s. Not top five, probably not top 10, but I gotta think he's at least top 20 of the decade. Started with the Habs, but got forced out by Price, who definitely is one of the best goalies of the 2010s. Then went to St. Louis but ultimately got traded for Miller near the deadline, but at that time Halak was a 0.919 in 40 games that season. A 0.919 is objectively very good in any era! Yes, before the trade Miller had a 0.923 that season, but it's not as if the goaltending was what was holding the Blues back that season. With the Islanders, he was pretty good, with a 0.913 over 4 seasons, but ultimately wound up sharing the net with Greiss, who was also pretty good over that span. Then to Boston, where he was always going to be second fiddle to Rask, and then by the time he gets to Vancouver and the Rangers he's in his late 30s and on the downswing of his career. TL;DR: Jaroslav Halak should have been a franchise goalie, but he kept on running up against even better prospects, more established starters, and one inexplicable trade by the Blues. Counting goalies who played at least 200 games during the 2010s (i.e. someone who played for most of that decade), he is 13th in wins, 19th in sv%, and 9th in GAA. Clearly not one of the greats, but that's one of the goalies that you should be able to have and say, okay, we've got a good goaltender, that's set, so let's focus on the team in front of him.
These are great. Do the Shanahan and Pronger 1 for 1 trade. It led to multiple other trades and Stanley cups.
I always pronounce the goaltender noisburg as noidberg from the Naked Gun movies like the OJ Simpson character also the Sabers at the time love Trading third round picks and they still do let's go Buffalo can't wait to see the Patrick Kane deal when we get Patrick Kane
I'm sorry, I don't know these Halak and Walker guys. Do you mean ALLEN WALSH CLIENTS JAROSLAV HALAK AND NATHAN WALKER?
I'm wondering if the Lars Eller Trade Tree is any good?
Steve please don't talk about the 2010-2015 sabres management again.
Why lol
As a Sabres fan I disagree, put them on blast often and always. They were TERRIBLE. Look at some of Botterill's deals for some true lols. My favorite is trading a sixth round pick for a sixth round pick the following year... and nothing else. So it was a sixth round pick for a LATER sixth rounder the following year. Just baffling.
@@Deenaziamazinjg14 pain
@@254zero oh grow up
Yep, we felt this in Buffalo. I am glad our future is brighter now
Oh my god, finally a new trade tree
This is part of the Scott Stevens Offersheet tree you should cover that
Hey nice Nasher call out to Rusty!! You love too see it
16:25 worth noting we traded Siegenthaler solely so Zdeno Chara could have a spot to play on the team, which was extremely dumb and I will not be getting over it
Ya'll should do the Brent Burns trade tree, when my Minnesota Wild traded Burns away to San Jose.
Thats pretty funny, I didn’t know igor was taken w a pick originally from the islanders.
One small QOL thing would be to change up the “New York” if both NY teams are in the trade - like go “NY Islanders” and “NY Rangers”, just so it’s not as confusing. :) great vid though
The new backround is hard on the eyes. I thought there was graphic artifacting and I had to enable debanding on my video card.
Make the Nick Foligno trade tree next please
Leafs legend.
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Caps fan. That one Walker point makes it all worth it
and now Halak is at the Rangers backing up Igor. I wonder if Domingue will get a chance to develop as a goalie at NY.
That Chaisson goal reminded me how soft Muzz was that post season. Enjoy him in Toronto 👍🏻
I was very much a Klesla fan. I was in a 'hockey bones' (a pretty fun dice/card/matrix hockey simulator game with a STUPID name) league, and had Klesla for quite a few years. His early years, unfortunately, lol. But I liked him
Tim Murray loved every player he ever scouted and if his uncle would not draft them, he would do whatever her could to get them when he became a GM himself....hence Michael Neuvirth.
Ive waited a year for this to be back
Next summer you should do a part 1 of Erik Karlsson trade to San Jose
As a Blues fan, I was giddy with the Miller trade. Halak couldn't stop a beach ball. Just shoot high glove side.
I'll take a cup, won by stabbing a potential 3-peat by the Penguins in the heart, over shishterkin.
So… it’s the Allen Walsh clients trade tree. :)
When Arthur Staple of The Athletic ranked every Isles goalie to play 5+ games for them, he had Neuvirth last. He backed up Jaro Halak here.
As a Rangers fan I loved this video
I’d love to see a Trevor Linden trade tree!!
Good trade tree, but it feels like the title should have been reworked to not spoil the punchline. Maybe something like 'How The Rangers Got The Better Goalie In A Caps-Sabres Goalie Swap'. Also echoing the 'please differentiate between Islanders and Rangers, not just New York and New York.'
I'll give you a great trade tree. Whalers-Blues, Pronger for Shanahan.
You should do an Erik Johnson trade tree
I can’t wait to see the Eichel trade tree in couple decades.
Do the linden trade tree already!!!
Pls do more
Oilers definitely weren't tanking in 14-15. They came on hard in the second half of the season to move up in the standings. (If memory serves from 2nd worst to 3rd worst, but the late season surge was notable).
8-22-8 in 2014, 16-22-6 in 2015.
LaFontaine/Turgeon next please
Please do the Trevor Linden trade tree it was a catalyst that almost lead the canucks to the cup
April Fools' Day, you should do the Randy Johnson trade tree. Hey, at least a Canadian team got screwed in that one!
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES TRADE TREES ARE BACK
How do you have a 6-19-3 record and a 921 save percentage
You gotta do the trade tree that is Brandon Saad’s career.
So Neuvirth and Halak were traded for each other, then BOTH were traded to the Islanders the next off-season? What were the Islanders doing?
I'd like to see the Hossa /Heatley trade broken down