Yanis Varoufakis on China
2024 ж. 26 Мам.
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Greece’s former finance minister, Yanis Varoufakis, discusses China’s growing role in Southern Europe and EU politics with Anatole Kaletsky, Co-Chairman of Gavekal Draganomics, David Alandete, Managing Editor of El Pais, and Torsten Riecke, Handelsblatt’s international correspondent.
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Yanis is very down to earth. A good ambassador for EU-China coperation. One of the very few Western leader who knows how to deal with China.
Be careful in dealing with China.. omg, you have no idea with this yellow blooded full of greed people. Look, they wanted to own the whole South China Sea
Yes, he can deal with China because he is not a racist ideologue.
Every time I watch Yanis, I learn something new.
Well put.
Next level smart.
This is the first time I have heard him. He is amazing. Why is he not in charge of the EU? He is a real problem solver.
Sword 1 at 6:02 that was a slap down from a different stratosphere. 😂😂 the looks on all 3 of the faces of the others was of pure shame.
@@sword7872 are you on drugs? he s the destroyer of economies
As a German myself, I really liked how Yanis educated the guy from the Handelsblatt. I hope he learned a lesson.
EU give money to Greece to pay bad bankers. They banks knew Greece could not pay her loans and did not invest the moeny they lended to Greece... It shoudl have been a Greek bancruptcy. As is Greece is almost not a soverign nation. For how long?
he learned the EU is a doomed project if the best economist from their country tries to play the pathetic 08/09 bankers greedy card, when he get’s called out on his opportunistic bootlicking towards China after the EU saved them again and again. He doesn’t have a defense, this was a clear straw man by him. How dumb are the viewers here to not get that.
@@Sheeshening Saved? Greek economy has shrinked 50% since the EU decided "saving" Greece. If you call that a saving, then go ahead. But it is not saving when they make you take loans again and again that cannot (and will not) be repayed and your economy shrinks by half.
Ich respektiere Varoufakis als einen brillianten ehrlichen Rhetoriker, Analysten und Politiker aber er ist einfach blind wenn es darum geht, daß seine politischen Vorgänger dieses leichtfertig verschenkte Geld der restlichen EU Banken einfach verprasst haben. Irgendjemand muß die Zeche zahlen und bei der Troika ging es um die Verteilungskämpfe wer wieviel zu leiden hat. Die eigentliche Ursache liegt schon viel weiter in der Vergangenheit, wie die EU vollkommen ignorant und blind Griechenland mit seiner nix Steuern Attitüde aufgenommen hat. Er kann das nicht völlig ignorieren, daß sowohl die EU, als auch Griechenland praktisch zugelassen haben, daß in Griechenland das Geld deutscher Sparer verbraten wurde. Sich jetzt nach China umzudrehen und ins Schwärmen zu geraten, weil die so geduldig sind, das Geld ausschütten UND noch die Arbeiter mitbringen... ich lach mich schlapp! Die Uiguren, Tibeter, Japaner, Vietnamesen, Taiwanesen, Malayen... sie alle haben ihre eigenen Erfahreungen mit den Chinesen und er glaubt wirklich, daß er da einen goldenen Teppich ausgebreitet bekommt - naiv ist das.
@@YouThana Du sagst es.
It's amazing the amount of knowledge possessed by this man... He is a Greek national treasure, I hope the greeks realize that...
Knowledge and ideology.
They do not. Lad stlil doesn't have a whole lot of seats in the Greek parliament. It's almost as if they deserve what's coming for them.
yeah especially when he can recount exact percentages of party votes for a country that is not even his own! Geeesh!
@@thijsg717 as we know its not about how many 'likes'... most people are brainwashed
@@sadiemakesmesmile wdym
Yanis Varoufakis is very smart, insightful... Respect from a Chinese.
yes, be like Greece, lol
+Dinko Blazevic Greece actually has fascinating culture & knowledge, democracy was first promoted by Greeks .
same here, Big R. from a German ; ]
Indeed.
I like Greece as well, but comparing modern Greece with the ancient philosophical age of Greece is like comparing modern Islamic nations with Islamic nations during the Golden Age or during the Hellenistic era. Too much dogma has influenced the nations throughout the past millennia.
Yanis Varoufakis is by FAR the favorite Man of Europe.
What a brain and what a heart does YV have. Inspiring like very few others I have listened to in my 60 years.
In the long run, it'll be devastating for small countries like Greece to engage with China (or rather: The CCP) like Yanis recommends. You climb up and have a seat in the CCP's big, warm lap, and you'll likely find it super comfy. But if you ever feel like climbing down again to go for a little stroll, you'll suddenly notice their iron fists when they're grabbing you and holding you down. For all the glaring flaws of the EU, it's still preferable compared to the Chinese Communist Party. The EU is at least above organ harvesting and concentration camps. I live in Sweden, and the way that the CCP ambassadeur openly bullies and threatens Swedish politicians, companies, NGO's and so on, is just mindblowing. Raw, naked authoritarianism. Trust me, in the long run, you'll all be better off if you stay clear of the CCP's dirty money. Be well. Peace...
Yanis is an intelligent politician with chrism, sharp and clear view! We need more people like him in the goverments!
nope
@@newchannel1220 You Greek?
@@Custom2011he looks like South Korean
This is the type of conversation I need to see in every sector of life.
As time goes on I have gained high respect for Yanis Varoufakis.At first, when he was Finance Minister I did not understand him. Today I know it was due to improper coverage through the media of Yanis.I respect and understand Yanis. Keep on going. I'm German. ;-) Wolf
@@kincaidwolf5184 he threatened to restructure the greek debt, which is the only option he had in ordet to try for change. the debt is not sustainable so something needs to change. what is he supposed to do. he is europhile but only if europe works in the right way. and he campaigns for change through diem25 movement
Herr Klotts He did not suffer from improper coverage, but he was smeared by a well planned and well organized media campaign. And this campaign was odered from above. The aim was to silence him. He is an excellent expert, and a fine character. Look at all the other fools and liars. In his brain more cells are dying every day than Mutti ever had. Und hier die Regel Nummer 1 für Afrika. Die Chinesen bauen, die Amis bomben. Jeder tut eben das was er kann.
tiglath pileser what’s your grudge, dude? “Barbarian” is defined by your comment: you’re hoisted on your own petard
@@kincaidwolf5184 As the minister of finance of Greece he had two options: - proper debt restructuring, so the debt will go down over time (this was his preference if I remember correctly) - leave the EU to go bankrupt to be able to get rid of the debt (in case he couldn't do the first) Instead they did not allow any of the above, but they said: you need to do even more austerity. Even though people were already dying of austerity.
Kaide Walsh If you think that nothing has changed...well, you're completely blind and wrong!
Varoufakis is a very clever man, a fair and clear thinker👍
Honest Man.. He explain things and is easy to understand him.Keep talkinkg Mr.Varoufakis .
OMG, how Yanis was right, he basically predicted Yellow vests...
3.5 years later, I am watching this with great appreciation, as a Chinese, during the covid pandemic.
When u need three experts to interview one man..
As Yanis says the Chinese are focused on their own interest. But as journalist and Africa and China correspondent for New York Times has said, the Chinese will deliver on what is agreed upon, will not interfere or lecture the hos country on its internal politics and will go almost anywhere where they are welcome. Piraeus has become a success despite big challenges and is set to expand in the near future with hotels. Thanks to Chinese investment.
@@warhawk338 Your argument is insane. Which port do you mean? The Hanbantota? What about the fact the Sri lankans will get a free port after a hundred year..... absolutely for free for free....
@@warhawk338 asserting pressure when their debtors can't pay ....
They'll deliver and build you a port. True! They'll take your port for a 100 years if you have trouble paying back. True! And they might place some of their military personal in close proximity to these ports ^^ And this is "just" ports. Think what (political)possibilities they might have with investments in communication, drinking water, logistics etc. Scary stuff.
Sorry but I trust the CCP as much as I trust the Americans
@@boshengjones1778 That's only significant piece of infrastructure you can name. Let's hear you name a few others? Hmm? Chinese debt trap is a myth.
love Yanis!! need more like him, to support more of us!!
I’m supporting diem25 from America and feel proud of it.
Absolutely nothing will come of it.
@@vaska1999 why do you say that?
@@vaska1999 he literally had seats in the greek parliament
@@Alexander-vo4gv I know. He was the minister of finance in the Syriza government. I say nothing will come of diem25 because there's exactly zero chance of democratizing the EU.
Yanis Varoufakis is the pride of Greece.......and the nemesis for german finance minister Schaueble
hahahahahahahahahahahha
Jay Paul There are VICTIMS in Greece. We have more than 10 000 suicides till 2015 and still counting. They stopped the statistics. But the general mood in my country is that, the perpetrators are going to have to pay for all of these crimes. Varoufakis is just one of them. He committed the latest austerity and he still prances around the world to inform us about HIS UTOPIA. It is NOT about Left and Right it is about CRIMES COMMITTED AGAINST PEOPLE, Greek People in this instance. Mad? ...not really, just calculating to get even.
Remember something in June of 2015 there was a referendum you remember this no? ok. In this referendum Greece was a very pivotal crossroads. They could have voted in or out of the eurozone and stop the toxic loans which were impossible to repay , and with continuing interest. Tsipras agreed to respect the people's decision and the outcome of the vote. When the people voted NO /OXI what did your communist PM do? ........HE DISRESPECTED WHAT THE PEOPLE WANTED AND LIED TO THE PEOPLE WHEN HE SAID HE WOULD RESPECT THE RESULT OF THE VOTE! so if you want to blame someone you should not blame Varoufakis but your own COMMUNIST leader Tsipras who is not fit to be a leader of any nation in any way, shape or form. He has made Greece the laughing stock of not only europe but the entire region. I have recently heard an interview with Asad of Syria and even HE is light years ahead of that lousy piece of shit communist you have in charge of Greece but I guess you get what the people vote for right? and if so it does not show competence for your people. Greeks have wanted too many handouts. Varoufakis was against this and you are against him. What does that tell us? it tells us that you are another of these idiot Greeks who have no idea about economics and about where you stand in the world or the EU or even within the Balkans itself. I do not agree with Varoufakis political leanings because basically he is a leftist but in his case , if I were a Greek citizen I would vote for him immediately if he was to run for election because his outlook transcends partisan politics. Small mindedness has destroyed Greece. Wake up.
VLAD THE IMPALER Tsipras is not a Communist. The so called 'radical left' party were typical left-leaning social democrats/democratic socialists, who ultimately capitulated to the neo-liberal establishment in Brussels. Varoufakis was not really even involved in politics until him helping Tsipras with how to help the Greek economic crisis ended up with him being asked to take the position of finance minister because Tsipras had nobody else to fill the position. I don't believe he was particularly aligned with the long-standing politics of Syriza. Varoufakis is something of a fluid leftist, who isn't afraid to bend his beliefs to the reality of the situation. This is what I like about him, as even as a leftist myself I am frustrated by fellow leftists who subscribe to ridiculously rigid interpretation of Marxism and Capitalism. Though he calls himself a 'Marxist', he seems to be much more concerned with using Marxism as a tool of analysis and understanding of the Capitalist economic system, rather than as a guide to a solution. This is the best way to utilize Marxism, imo. His solutions certainly aren't derived from Marxism and as he has said himself, are actually be considered moderate by most Capitalist economists.
Psilent, tsipras was leader of the Hellenic communist youth movement as a teenager. I know how these people are. Once a communist ALWAYS A COMMUNIST!
Thank you Yannis...Greetz from Germany 👍
Yanis Varoufakis for President! He's a legend!
Greece and China both benefit from this significantly and of course this is the type of relationship Greece wants because China will invest in Greece developing all the things the EU ignored and both have a pretty recognizable relationship as 70% of the Greek shipping magnates work primarily for China since the 1970's. They are the ones who influenced China to buy the port of Piraeus. The EU lost influence in Greece just as the US did before them, they are the ones who forced Greece to privatize, they wanted a fire sale and then they didn't buy the assets. They further amplified the recession with austerity and then they complain because someone else buys it first? All of these events happened because of the bailout agreements, they didn't care when no one invested after the bailout agreements so why the hell should they care now when someone else will? If they want their money back they should be happy China is willing to develop the whole Axios river area because if they don't Greece will NEVER be able to pay back their debt. The debt will be 300% of GDP by 2060 and continue to increase from there. China and Greece actually do have a lot of the same issues, they both have a major problem with Islam and Turks and since the US and EU do not help Greece when it comes to Islamic aggression, Greece has always looked elsewhere like towards Israel. - Turkish agents have been caught starting wildfires in Greece to cause economic hardship. - The Turkish government has been caught helping smugglers smuggle illegal immigrants into Greece. - The Turkish air force and navy violate Greek airspace and sovereign waters daily. - Turkey still occupies Cyprus and the US president Johnson said they would sink any Greek ship that went to help Cyprus against the Turkish invasion. - Turkey broke all the agreements from the treaty of Lausanne. - Erdogan and the leader of the second biggest party in Turkey talk about taking the Aegean islands from Greece. What do the US and EU do? Nothing, the EU gave some money to Turkey even though they continue to send migrants. Instead of helping Greece with the migrant crisis which Merkel influenced, they say fuck 'em it is their problem. Now look at what China has offered Greece: - A massive development of the port of a Piraeus to be a part of the silk road as it was historically. - A stake in Greece's infrastructure which is in fact worse than China's, yes that is right Greece's infrastructure is worse than China's. - A a development of the Axios river all the way to Vienna basically making it so ships no longer have to travel through the strait of Gibraltar (what this whole thing is really about) - Diminishing the influence of the straits of Gibraltar and the Bosporus straits. Greece should have done this from the beginning.
Jesus you are deluded Man. it’s all business. No one has a problem with anybody. Everyone is the best friend to wealth.
@@bauan98 you're an idiot, whatever he said is actually true
Everything is right here, only to correct that any country's infrastructure, is worst than China's infrastructure. China's infrastructure has been advancing for years and is now ahead of every other nation, by far.
The problem is that Greece shouldn't even be in the EU. They lied to get it, made massive debts and then against EU rules got bailed out.
Wow your comment is one of the best I've ever read about political subjects, I couldn't agree more. The thing is that the US and the west in general, control the media which is the biggest opium of the masses and that's why many people don't realize it... While people like Varoufakis won't succeed... I wish that was wrong... Anw. Have a nice day and continue to search for the truth in things!
Love it how V sticks it to the German.
Love how you called him V for Victory ✌or ..V for Vendetta 😜
In the long run, it'll be devastating for small countries like Greece to engage with China (or rather: The CCP) like Yanis recommends. You climb up and have a seat in the CCP's big, warm lap, and you'll likely find it super comfy. But if you ever feel like climbing down again to go for a little stroll, you'll suddenly notice their iron fists when they're grabbing you and holding you down. For all the glaring flaws of the EU, it's still preferable compared to the Chinese Communist Party. The EU is at least above organ harvesting and concentration camps. I live in Sweden, and the way that the CCP ambassadeur openly bullies and threatens Swedish politicians, companies, NGO's and so on, is just mindblowing. Raw, naked authoritarianism. Trust me, in the long run, you'll all be better off if you stay clear of the CCP's dirty money. Be well. Peace...
@@linuswang6572 no one believe you man.
Yanis is an amazing genius, you can't not like him.
What an incredibly intelligent and thoughtful man. As someone who has very little understanding of the broader implicatioms of global economics, it was always easy to just point at Greece and say 'You guys fucked up, you should deal with it.' (I never agreed to that as a very Pro-Europe kind of person I feel that we all should shoulder this weight.) But when you do start to read into what's really going on; Yanis is correct on basically every point.
Yanis is a very intelligent, insightful, and no nonsense man, the German guy facing him is helpless.
I totally understand this Varoufakis. I'm Chinese! There's something about d thinking of peoples with ancient high cultures...
I presume you are refering to the Greeks.
@@rogeronslow1498 Obviously, also i know the name Onslow from that British series lol, the dude drinking beer watching TV all day lol. He wasn't too bright.
I like Y V's guts and the way he puts people in their place with disarming candour and without losing his calm! Some delightful judo around 18' :-) heheh
He understands China better than any UK politician, and the importance of that cannot be overestimated.
wheesht man. He's just another fool in a long line of fools who cannot resist big stacks of CCP cash. No different from MG Rover men.
Lol. Of course, everyone who sees China as anything other than a cartoonish villainous country must be getting paid by China... You lot are insane.
Its truly sad thats the EU has its curent leadership instead of experta who truly care about the well being and peaceful global relations
@@LexTNeville I´m guessing you find yourself surrounded by "fools."
@@kerryburns6041 nope. You often make bold leaps like that with little to no data?
These guys fail to point out the heavy handed interference of USA interests into Europe's political and economic life.
ssshhhh. We don't talk about that.
But they all white as opposed to Chinese influence. They kinda let it slide if they all look alike. The individual differences they try to hammer out. I think the EU and world is just getting a whiff of how base the US is.
Remember when the US agreed a trade deal with UK to encourage Brexit but has now gone back on it words and it has to be renegotiated.
he s not failing, he s part of that influence
USA will do everything possible to kill other nations' hope. USA just want to be a superpower and get money from external without contribute anything to the rest of world.
Obvious editing of Yanis' comments--play the whole thing and don't interrupt him. We need to hear what he has to say.
Handlesblatt sees good news everywhere, remarkably this good news requires no new analysis, and no change. It is proof of the Current perfection. He will be dissappointed and soon.
In the long run, it'll be devastating for small countries like Greece to engage with China (or rather: The CCP) like Yanis recommends. You climb up and have a seat in the CCP's big, warm lap, and you'll likely find it super comfy. But if you ever feel like climbing down again to go for a little stroll, you'll suddenly notice their iron fists when they're grabbing you and holding you down. For all the glaring flaws of the EU, it's still preferable compared to the Chinese Communist Party. The EU is at least above organ harvesting and concentration camps. I live in Sweden, and the way that the CCP ambassadeur openly bullies and threatens Swedish politicians, companies, NGO's and so on, is just mindblowing. Raw, naked authoritarianism. Trust me, in the long run, you'll all be better off if you stay clear of the CCP's dirty money. Be well. Peace...
@@linuswang6572 Western cope as usual. China will be the next global hegemon and I can't wait to watch this hemisphere flounder and shit themselves
@@jw5931 Yup. That's not unlikely. Still, that's not a good reason to simply roll over. By the way, are you a fan of the CCP or are you just eager to see someone, anyone, pulling the plug on the West?
@@linuswang6572 Don't be hypocritical: The US government is guilty of exactly the same things, prisons full of black people because it's way more likely they get arrested and prosecuted and in prison they have to work so they besically still have slavery, it's in the constitution: slavery is illegal except in prisons. So there's slavery and concentration camps for you. Then we have the starting wars all over the world in order to surpress socialist/progressive regimes or anyone who dares act without US consent. You think progressive Chinese people are happy with the authoritairan rule? They have a firewall but it can be bypassed to acces everything on the internet, especially younger generations know exactly what reality they are in, i've talked with foreign students and they laugh at their government, it's the same as here; we are under systems of control, we can only try to cope for now. The Chinese might break free who knows. But this shouldn't be a blaming game, if investment is badly needed it doesn't matter as you have no choice if you actually want to move forward instead of backwards, moving backwards only breeds anger and discontent, that helps the radical right. Luckily the Greek people are the most hardcore in the world.
Great conversation! I would have loved for Richard Wolff to have been in this meeting.
Thank God for Varoufakis.
China indeed is the best business partner. This is why the USA is so afraid of them.
Solidarity in Europe 😂 and it's still China who's supplying medical aid during covid, not Brussels
fairy tale
Is your username pronounced die young.. 😨
Cadhla O’Hanlon die (English pronounciation) and dai (Chinese surname in the form of 戴) are pronounced differently.
@@cadhlaohanlon4443 cute, it's just assuming that the whole world only uses English (or Latin alphabet to be precise) You ought to get a passport and see the world. Heck, even Eastern Europe and Southern Europe has different language systems. Don't say ignorant my friend :)
@@yangdai9101 sry for the misunderstanding I made, I'm half Chinese and very proud of my heritage, I have been constantly teaching myself Chinese over the years, however theres hardly anybody I can practice with in real life, that's basically why I was more sensitive and curious towards pronounciations. 不好意思😿
I like the way Yanis corrected the Handelsblatt guy that "it is not a question of money". It is investment especially technology!
China doesn't have any technology that Europe needs. What in the world is he talking about?
@ this time; 5 years past, still so much learned & to be learned!
Thank you for organizing the meeting of these individuals and thank you for making this available for viewing on KZhead for everybody. I’d like to volunteer to help. If I can assist by fixing your subtitles (english subtitles), please let me know.
Intelligent & courageous.
Yanis, you are the man...you put the German guy right where he should be...LMAO
In the long run, it'll be devastating for small countries like Greece to engage with China (or rather: The CCP) like Yanis recommends. You climb up and have a seat in the CCP's big, warm lap, and you'll likely find it super comfy. But if you ever feel like climbing down again to go for a little stroll, you'll suddenly notice their iron fists when they're grabbing you and holding you down. For all the glaring flaws of the EU, it's still preferable compared to the Chinese Communist Party. The EU is at least above organ harvesting and concentration camps. I live in Sweden, and the way that the CCP ambassadeur openly bullies and threatens Swedish politicians, companies, NGO's and so on, is just mindblowing. Raw, naked authoritarianism. Trust me, in the long run, you'll all be better off if you stay clear of the CCP's dirty money. Be well. Peace...
@@linuswang6572 yeah...Great seer..🤣 it has been 6 years since the Port of Pireaus is acquired. Is it failing? Its net profit has grown more than 200% since the acquisition. Means, the Greek shareholders, pension fund, government taxes has grown in tandem. You wish me peace, but I don't see any sincerity in it because you spread rumours. EU, those are the countries that oppressed your grandpa. Organ harvesting? Tell me a cheaper place than India to buy any organ or even a corpse. You bloody banana.
Absolutely brilliant by Yanis
This is how a leader should be!
My dad fought in Greece and Crete with the New Zealand EF, !st Echelon 20th Battalion and the Greeks, Australians and New Zealanders gave the Italians a bloody nose, once the Germans came into the game it was a different story. I have my Dads medal from the Greeks in pride of place to this day! Many Greeks eneded up coming to either Ozzie Ozzie or a few came to NZ after the war! All were welcome especially those that came tp pur home Town Wellington
Terrific debate. Thank you.
This is not a debate they are leftists that agree in everything.
woah its amazing to see all those people supporting yanis. I hope i will see him prime minister someday...Or something even better
If you want Greece sold out to China, sure, let him be PM.
@@gordusmaximus4990 lol, sure lets have PM mitsotakis and ND for another 40years! What could possibly go wrong? Literally they are the same corrupted politicians who took us to the place we are now. People are stupid. I would prefer to have greece sold to china than being sold to drug cartel (you know now noor1)
5:55 the reaction of the other 3 on Yanis' counter argument is precious...
that was my favourite comment ! I went to uni with all finance people ( i studied math), and i know, a lot of these bankers get high on cocaine and gamble with people's futures all day. Thats not hard working, thats an addiction.
they looked totally uncomfortable
Thank you Yanis a pleasure listening to you.
The time is coming when Yanis will become, will be tapped and appointed to a key position at the Commanding Heights because of his genius and ability to see through to the very core and essence regarding the truth of the matter in negotiating these trade and financial deals and matters.
I heard him from his UBI idea, I will say he is visionary
Yanis Varoufakis is Formidable !!
I like the socks that the former minister were wearing, it is easy to see one's characters by seeing one's kinda socks, which is pure and colorful.
This is an actual interesting conversation with Yanis Varoufakis, sadly lately they dont seem to invite him anymore and journalists now just always ask him the same 5 questions with ofcourse the same answer
Greatttt! As usual, deceptive editing @6:20 to save your masters!! When he starts explaining about how Germany (and EU) and offer solutions that doesnt go with the official narrative (read his book, if someone wants to know!)
Particularly insightful point made at 4:43, in capitalist societies we too often think of investment as synonymous with capital, but the Chinese (former socialists, long since something else...) understand the value of labour. You don't need to be a communist to appreciate the value of skilled labour, or how you can use it as an investment. Perhaps the EU needs to start thinking of how to use a shared labour force for investing in infrastructure, housing, energy, etc.
Does anyone have a link to the full discussion this is taken from?
This right on spot - a Portuguese here - the EU is on track to become a full fledged colonial system with all the drapings of the paternalism (we should know ;-) ). Yanis' response to Torsten Riecke was absolutely on spot. I'd trust dealings with China way more than any of this nation busting crap the EU disguises as single currency rules. The hell with it! We've dealt with China and chinese for 500 years and they've proven to be much better business partners and a led to a much more enriching cultural exchanges than anything - anything! - we've seen from the EU dictatorship. Listen to Yanis Mr Riecke - this is not about money, your money is a trap, a mechanism to surrender our economies to a mafiosi eurocracy. This is completely about the likes of you wanting to demean and "civilize" the likes of me and, really, to enslave our children. The hell with you! I've moved to the USA precisely to save my children from that fate.
Jonas Almeida
Jonas Almeida
interesting to hear a Portuguese view so similar to mine (British). It appears the Euro is the Deutchmark in disguise, a theory i got from Serbia before the Euro was installed and felt confirmed when Greece went to Germany for a bailout, Germany, not "Europe", German citizens were protesting about having to bail Greece out, the French weren't, nor the Spanish, Portuguese or anyone else? Euro = Deutchmark if Britain had taken the Euro we could never Leave, Brexit would've been impossible, German rule follows. Germany felt it was her destiny to rule Western Europe since the 19th century, the 1st and 2nd world wars were about this, what they failed by war they succeeded by paperwork - that's my theory on this, interested in what you think about that idea?
Well, if you think Germany thinks it's destined to rule Europe, you'll find it interesting that many Chinese feel they are the natural rulers of Asia, just as many Americans feel they are the natural rulers of the world, just as the British felt when they were at the top. From the German perspective, they are only taking their turn at the top.
the euro is the deutchmark in disguise, if britain had taken it escaping German rule for the foreseeable future would be unthinkable, as it is throughout the eurozone, my granddad fought Dunkirk to avoid German rule.
Yanis, a great guy telling facts about western hypocrycy at the same time Chinese decency on economic relationship
Brilliant discussion
Great discussion. Wish there is a sequel and more up to date discussion on the chaotic world in 2024.
nothing but respect for Yanis
Could you upload also the full version, please?
Not even the Germans could not mess with Varoufakis.
Yanis dragged every single of one them, ate them and left not a single crumb 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Great Series of talks
YANIS VAROUFAKIS. STRONG BRAIN🤞 IQ AND EQ IS IN ⚖️. THANK YOU .
At the very least, healthy discourse - this is great for Europe!
Where has this kind of discussion been all my life?
At 3:18 when YV admits that he went to a foreign ambasador and as a Minister of Finance told him that he doesnt agree with the position of his own government (wow!!!) that part alone makes me very skeptical how adventurous things can get in these cases.
Yanis is honest and admirable in his passion for doing the right thing. But we need to start at the basics to see what Greece must do. Any government short of money can do 4 things: 1. Cut spending, 2. Enforce taxes 3. Print money and 4 Borrow money. Southern Europe ALWAYS had the tradition of printing and borrowing, while the north favored saving and taxing. The Northern system is NOT necessarily better than the southern. In fact, printing money is actually the superior method. It makes more sense to each year simply print 3-6% extra money so you get income tax via devalution of currency. In addition with a soft currency, the south can better compete with the north and tourism is more attractive. So the ENTIRE issue is that when joining the Euro, the instrument of printing was removed so the south could now only borrow money...Now, since euro debt was not collectivized from the start, this was a recipe for disaster (and will be forever). Greece suffered as the Euro is not a suitable currency and the European banks suffered because they where forced by the ECB to buy southern bonds. The only solution now is to recognize the south simply needs a different currency than the north. As long as the ECB / EU sticks to the one-size fits all idea, there will be NO SOLUTION and the citizens of all countries will suffer. If the EU is not willing, than Greece and other southern nations (or the northern countries themselves) will need to organise their OWN currency (or perhaps temporally adopt the Yuan) . As long as you don't take steps in this direction THIS WILL NOT change and in my opinion it is useless to fantasize on philosophical issues and visions of the future....So very curious as to Yannis view on best currency solution for Greece ????
He is too soft too "soft" with China though and will far as say naive about it. Sure, having Chinese investement in Greece creates jobs and stuff. But having China owning a Greek/European port is no acident, and he is favour on it. This is taking european strategic assents. Having a port in the ends of a foreign nation can never be good. People should know this looking at the history of colonialism, learn from the past. Like i said creates jobs and stuff, but having a authoritarian foreign power owning your strategic assents isnt good. And leaving the Euro would be catastrophic for south european nations right now, would mess things even furder, they should had join the euro when they joined, but now its too late. The future lies with the EU, which isnt perfect and needs a reform in my mind, but turning back would be worse.
Had me dying when he referenced the Nazis in Greece 😂
Thanks so much for posting
I had to LOL as Kaletsky calls the Spanish journalist "Al Dente" at the end... xD
not that I didn't appreciate the broader discussion but that was about China for about 10 seconds.
The U.S. owns the EU, the European Bank, the IMF.
People who wear Yamakas own them.
The Port of Piraeus is a natural development since logistics would certainly require a two-way traffic. After all the position has been moving the mega-ships to the ports in north-western Europe and then either rail south wards or along the inland waterways to Central and Southern Europe, hence Piraeus is a natural counterpoint to balance the flow of containers from this part of Europe. The only issue was the port was not well managed previously and with the current input of of its management, trade volume has increased by a few folds!
I like the talk so much, as much that i hate the cuttings which seems to be midsentence a lot of time. Is there a full version of this ?
Both China and the EU were prepared to give money to Greece for whatever reason but there differ in the mechanism. One uses investment while the other uses loans. At the time, Greece doesn't need more loans that it can't hope to pay back, what it needed were investments that were build upon the principle of profit-sharing.
Handelsblatt guy OWNED by Yannis
any link to the full discusion ?
Very interesting to listen to this in 2021.
The center two armchairs are different than the ones at the opposite ends of the arrangement.
Yanis the Legend.
Anyone catch what YV says at 09:35 about the transfer from the books of the banks, to the books of the .... ? Can't make out what is being said. Thx in advance!
Yanis has an incredible ability to explain complex politics
The Chinese can build railroads like no other country in human history.
@Cha I ahh..another hater that can't accept progress made by the Chinese. It's not 1950 anymore. Time to stop pooping in the slums.
What ever happened in the past. I hope Europe and China can work together to reduce the poor in the world. I do not like America's bully
In Italy it Is necessary leader like Yanis. Complimenti for your such a great respons tò gionalista.
They all had good points. Where can I see the whole thing?
Torsten Riecke: "You don't need [Greece's economic & political relationship with EU] on the Chinese level. China is not going to commit billions of dollars to bail out the Greek state." Beijing: "No and we're not going to. But that's not the point. Greece shouldn't need bailing out by anybody to begin with."
And the EU is selling the "Chinese debt trap" crap now lmao
The moderator called him "David Al Dente" at the end.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 so he's almost ready?
Truly inspired with Yanis' brain. Btw, how is Jack Ma eh, I'm watching this on 4 July 2021.
Brilliant debate conversation
at 5:45, see mr. Varoufakis shutting mr. Riecke down like aaaaaa pro, fam! :D
He is a very able and strong speaker, no?
Να χα το μισο του μυαλό σεβασμος!!
Did not know Voldemort had such an insight on foreign affairs
for chinese making money is more important because they know what poverty and starvation is like
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As teh most recently developed country, don't want to say superpower as they are not really, they do know. Also China is so big they still know: Even though they have the most and fastest trains in the world, look out the window when travelling with those trains and you see it on the fields, the people working with a sickle. That's also why China needs to keep growing and needs to keep lifting up the working class like it has been doing, otherwise the people will turn against the authoritarian government. They don't have the power over such a big and diverse country like the power governments have over us in the west. This is going on right now Yanis said recently. It will be interesting to see the coming years.
I would watch an hour of this, why edit??
The patience with Greece from the EU is the same patience a lender with his debtor, it is about having a political scapegoat and extracting more resources.
Greece was backed by the 'Big Powers' for its independence from the Ottoman Empire. It continually received support until the war with of turkish independence. It received support and was integrated into the North Atlantic system, receiving substantial support. So, while assessing some 'realities' of the bailout, one should not forget the above actions of 'spoilure'. Yet, Slovenia, Czech Republic and Estonia are surpassing it in terms of economic situation of citizens