Why do some dogs kill people, honest talk with master dog trainer & YouTuber Garret Wing
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0:02- *#39 Carwell Gardner. Bills, Ravens and San Diego chargers.* *We are live, not live...* 0:17- this all started because of the birth of Jesus.. 0:33 - summary of the podcast today 1:01 - train is coming off the track😂😂 when we let Eric pick topics 1:29- how to train your dog to not kill people, 2:18 - *Death by 5 Weiners* 2:50 - Beckman school of dog training: how to not get killed by your dog. Beginner level: white collar black stripes 4:15 - *"Let's get back to killing people"* 5:41- guess the breed 9:59 - Fricken no *NONSENSENESS!* 10:54 - *YO YO YO ! Guess who's back, back again Garrett's back on the pod again.* Garret busts into Commifornia via zoom! 14:34- 50,000 Cane Corsos were adopted because of Chipotle 14:45- Corsos riding on the backs of Malinois 18:16- Joel gives the Zombie props for his lack of GAF while swimming with dogs, now has it on loop in HD 21:08 -* Eric's questions for Garret:* *1.Breeds most likely to kill or inflict damage* *2. Owners* *3. How to train these dog breeds to fix it* *4. Seeing RED/mental illness * 24:37 -Joel's very short thing 30:15- Scary techniques from @Americanstandardtraining and where to put your thermometer 32:45- what types of owners have dogs that kill from Garretts perspective and experience in life 36:55- Orcas love ponytails 40:35 - 14-15 year old boys need father figures just as your dog needs structure and training at home 43:34 - *Bastard Elephants, Killer whale moms and Alpha female wolves running shit!* 50:23- having no kids means you're from another universe 52:02 - Garret believes he's a Pitbull 52:53 - Training pedophiles to safely be around kids is like trying to train the genetics out of a killer dog. 56:56 - Frontal lobotomies are necessary to create good dog trainers out of bad owners. 1:00:11 - *"Dumbshits" learning to E-collar train their dogs* 1:04:08- *Art teachers getting run over by kids, Drill Sergeants beating ass, taped up AXE* *handles, people shitting their pants and Equal opportunity head-butts for kids like Eric* 1:10:01 - DOGS WITH SHARK EYEZ 1:23:57- How to destroy your YT channel. *WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?!* 1:28:02- Eric drops the first F-Bomb?! 1:29:48 - comments 1:36:37 - Hey Hanover! Free CHICO! More Europe bashing 😂😅 1:38- letters behind your name don't mean you give a shit 1:45:46 - ✌️ love you guys Disclaimer: the above information is a dramatization of actual true events, it has been slightly sensationalized to bring you a bit of laughter depending on your personal type of humor you may or may not appreciate it. If you're easily offended or triggered by certain words then getting this far is an accomplishment, pat yourself on the back!
@underdogmma text Mr. Wing and ask if he needs a time stamp Guy will ya? Pay at current stamping job isn't the best😂. It was good to see you more involved. You're great at derailing the train and did good as a conductor on this one! 👊
Great time stamps! I look forward to reading them each week with a cold Topo Chico!
So good. As always :):):)
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Hi Birdy, that is some proper work you did here. You should get something back from it. I subscribed to your channel just because of your comment (and I love Toyota ;)
I was the client mentioned at the end of this podcast! MADE my WEEK to be mentioned and get the “really good owner” stamp of approval from my favorite dog trainer out there!!! I have a ton of respect for Joel’s family values and attitude on life. I work with troubled youth as a career and owning a tough breed is very similar-strong leadership and discipline is crucial for children and dogs both-it gives them the ability to have a better and more free life, which is more valuable than pets or treats! (And it’s no coincidence that about 85-90% of my clients in the last 14 years do not have their biological father in their life. Men need to man up and lead, along side strong women.) Thank you Joel, Garrett, and Eric for the great content. Keep being the strong men of integrity that you are. I will work extremely hard and “DO THIS ALL DAY” with the aggressive children I work with and my young and developing Cane Corso. Disciplining children and dogs both leads to them brining more joy to others. God bless 👊
@BoDiggity87 While this is mostly about dog training I am also interested in your comments about children who have problems because they don't have a father figure in their lives. I believe if you met the mothers of most of these children you would see one of the reasons there is no male in their children's lives. These women are often irresponsible, irascible and difficult to be around. Their irresponsibility is shown by the fact that many of them could have avoided having children by using protection but didn't do it. Now we have another generation growing up who will not know how to parent their children. Of course, society has a lot to do with it. Children need good influences in addition to their parents and in many cases no one takes an interest in them and there is no multi-generational training or teaching going on. Prison enters into this as well. Many men have no job training or job skills along with a lack of availability of jobs and they wind up in prison. Many single mothers are so busy working poorly paid jobs that they don't have much time with their kids.
No person who has a violent dog or child for that matter would ever admit publicly that they saw signs of problems before an incident happened.
If they’ve seen signs then they shouldn’t be taking their dog in public. Not without a muzzle at least. I have one of these dogs and he isn’t allowed in public at all.
@@ccap3211you're right they shouldn't, but these are the same people that drop their dog off at the groomer (I chose this example because that's my personal area of expertise) and say "he's such an angel, you shouldn't have any problems" and then you get them back to the table or the tub and the dog is like a freaking piranha. Then you say something to them about "He was a bit feisty, has he shown signs of x-y-z before?" And then it all spills out about how the dog has bit their neighbors or parents or kids but not "seriously" because it didn't require stitches. There are FAR too many people that look at their dogs with rose colored glasses and can see no wrong in anything they do, even when the dog has a bite history and is a total liability.
@@MrsFitzus that’s crazy. I can’t imagine taking my aggressive dog to a groomer. I wouldn’t dare.
If you have a child that has issues take them off carbs and sugar, it’s called the Carnivore diet. Meat heals carbs and sugar kills.
I have a 2 1/2 year old Catahoula mix. I got him at 8 weeks old. He was absolutely a monster. I still have scars from his bites. I almost rehomed him but decided to give him one more chance and took him to a balanced trainer. She had him for 5 days and he never bit me again. After 2 years of private training, he is now my best bud. It was a lot of work, his trainer trained me how to train him, but worth every minute. I'm 75 years old and have a wonderful relationship with him.
I’m so glad you tried a trainer!! That was too much for you to handle and unsafe! So happy to hear there was beautiful ending to your story 💜
Catahoula is one of the hardest dogs to train and can be aggressive by nature. Look it up.
@@terrifiorelli9819 When I first got him, I was told that his mom was a Stephens Cur and dad was a Black Mouth Cur. The litter was an accident so I wasn’t buying on pedigree. When he got much bigger than expected, was supposed to be around 60 lbs, I did a DNA test and found out he is almost 50% Catahoula and several other hounds. No Cur in him at all. The guy I got him from was totally shocked. He is very smart and takes training well. I do have to keep on top of his training to remind him who is in charge
I have my first Catahoula , Minnie her fathers father was Ton of Bricks I just love her but I am.experienced with powerful independant k9s.
@@philipbriney4430 Jackson is my first hound. I've always had golden retrievers. Jackson was definitely a challenge, but now I have a wonderful companion.
It's not just being the boss of your dog....it is being the LEADER. I have to say there are so many breeders of Corso. They just keep breeding them. It is out of control. The breeder I use to follow is having litters at least 4 times a year if not more. 4 times a year times 8 puppies equals at least 32 untrained puppies going out into the world every year and there are many, many breeders of Corso. So think of that as one issue.
This! Garret spoke about this the first time he came on the POD. It's the new fad money maker for irresponsible breeders and it'll end up just like the Pitbull thing eventually.
Such homely dogs although not as much so as pit bulls and Neapolitan Mastiffs.
My neighbor does this with his bulldogs, 4 litters a year, which means 8 surgeries a year for this poor dog! He says they have to be surgergically inseminated and need c-section. He makes $2,000-$4,000 per puppy. Oh by the way, the dogs are completely alone m-f until 7/8pm. He is in the process of moving on to Corsos, his female is currently about a year old. I completely disagree with his approach to breeding dogs, and I worry about the health and mental stability of every puppy as the mom is very aggressive and under socialized.
@@Shellnbabyyou're so right to be worried /concerned about that horrible person. Is there not anyone that he can be reported to?
@@infin8ee I'm not sure, I'll have to look into that.
SO HAPPY to see Garrett on again! You should have him on regularly! Y'all's energy together is great and it's great to see trainers with different methods who prefer different tools, getting together and getting along. My two favorite trainers
The man you were talking about was Ian price from the UK. A man who tried to protect his own mother from these dogs. He was pulled out of his home in his underwear by 2 XL bullies. Three adults stood around and no-one had a clue how to stop these dogs. They tore out his intestines on the grass while he was still alive. Its a hard watch but more people need to see the reality and the enjoyment these dogs get from it.... its what they were made to do. UK public needs to wise up to it.
US public as well. There are way too many owners see their doggies through pink glasses.
@@MG-Alexandrovich Speak for yourself
The man was literally eaten alive. Ramon Najera too. People blame the owners but how da faq do u teach a dog to eat human flesh? Fuck thst.
They said " way too many owners" not "all owners", it's true and if that's not you, don't get all hurt, if that statement steps on a nerve maybe evaluate yourself.@@loveink25
The worst thing is that people watched and seemed to do nothing. People are being conditioned to not intervene and to instead wait for police and it’s leading to people being killed.
Wow!!!!!!! My absolute two fav dog trainers on one podcast. This was everything I wanted
Having worked my whole life with big dogs, horses, and teenagers, I think we need to stop avoiding the concept of dominance. Pack animals, which include humans, are preprogrammed to find their place in a hierarchy. Lack of clarity about who is in charge- and you just went there. Thanks
I'm a horse person too and horse's will kill you too if you don't behave properly around them. I'm seeing "positive training " being pushed in that area aw well . Some people should not have animals .
I agree. I heard somewhere that dominance is how species avoid conflict among individuals, and that's how I've started explaining it to my family who are worried I'm "too tough" on my dogs. I'm in charge, and that saves everyone from having to constantly fight.
I have been waiting for someone to talk about this since the Diane Whipple attack in January 2001 by 2 Presa Canarios. Thank you for tackling this no easy fix issue. Thankfully there are trainers like you and Garrett.
RIP Diane
I’m a 4’9” female. Tiny person. I have trained both large dogs and punks 15 year olds. I’m also a pastor. Years ago one of my female parishioners called and asked for help with her teens sons who were beating her up. I grabbed my coat to run over to her house and my husband said, I’ll go with you. I told him I can handle myself. He said, “I know, I’m going with you to protect the punks from your wrath. “ He advised the boys to listen or regret it. They were fatherless punks. Big kids who came at me. I had them by family jewels and pinned to the wall. They never touch their mom again. Dogs are easier. Thanks for good topic.
@zelmalang1695 As a woman you could grab them by their family jewels and not get sentenced to a stiff jail term.
Ahhhh, good old Deuteronomy 25:11-12 I'm gonna guess you still have both your hands 🤷♂️ 1 Corinthians 14:34-37 "The things I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. " "Why do you call me Lord and do not the things I command?" A woman pastard is an oxymoron But those are businesses and not the churches of the Lord.
I have a amstaff I rescued after being abandoned near my wife’s job. She gets two runs to petsmart and the park (weather permitting) a week for social time. She loves seeing new people and just flips out to see kids, full on kisses attack lol. But she’s socialized constantly and knows boundaries. Never just left in the yard, WE go in the yard together to do business and play. Love the upload and all the content!
Can't agree more. We have 3 dogs, 2 rescues. One is a Pyrenee and the other German Shepherd. Pyrenees are notorious guardians and need to be kept secured at all times because it's in them to wander off. It was lots of work to get a reliable recall, but we have one. Doesn't mean I allow her outside unsupervised, because in the end, she's my responsibility. Same but different with the shepherd: he's a nervous nelly with a dubious past and he needed loads and loads of socialization. Those two could have turned out dangerous easily. In comparison, my 4 months old Beauceron is a breeze to work with!
Great topic! Love Garrett teamed up with you two…I have two mixed breed litter mates, that another of their sibling’s DNA test indicated 17 different breeds. One is the sweetest dog, and the other is why I’m a huge fan of Joel’s methods. Thanks to all of you for sharing your wisdom. Such a huge help!!
I just turned 60 and rescued what will be my last Pit bull. He’s a great dog but a lot of work. He’s the 1st dog I did a board and train with. He was super door reactive and dog reactive. They used an ecollar in training. A lot of people are against it but it has helped me keep my dog. Bully’s are a lot of work and a huge responsibility. I would never let him stay in the yard unsupervised. He’s great with people in public but I always carry a muzzle with me. My next dog will be a Chihuahua, the smallest one I can find 😂
@sherrylong7774 I have a "Schnauhuahua". He's very serious, like a Schnauzer and a bit protective when he hears the door bell or people shake my hand. Otherwise, he's pretty quiet. He has a fear of gun shots and fireworks.
Chihuahuas certainly aren't dangerous but they are guard dogs: there's probably not a more door and dog reactive breed. Of course they are cute and sweet too but I currently have one and make no mistake: she's on guard constantly!
@@pegacorn13 it’s funny because right after I wrote this I saw a dog whisperer episode with Howie Mandel who was terrified of his wife’s chihuahua. I’m not a small dog person but I absolutely love those dogs. Probably because they have such a big dog attitude. They certainly are cheaper to feed
@@sherrylong7774 Yeah, I never was a small dog person either but when I took my kiddo to the shelter, he fell in love with our Chihuahua/Rat Terrier cross. She's a good dog but the main challenge I have had is keeping her safe. Big dogs can cause a lot of damage to a little one: even if they don't mean to. The food and the poops: way cheaper and easier! My parents recently adopted a Malamute/Lab cross and the dog is soooo mellow. You wouldn't think she had a mean bone in her body: until she is around my dog. I have no doubt that she would rip my dog to shreds if given the chance. It's a bummer and I honestly don't know if they'll ever be able to be safe together :(
REAL Dog Talk from REAL Dog trainers that Walk the Talk. Thank you All. 👍💯😎
The analogies alone are enough reason to listen to this POD! Love Garret when he comes on here. Ya'll touched on some great subjects! Great job fellas!
im so greatful to see you three together i watch from afar and many things you guys talk about apply to humans and specifically relationships, leadership, tone of voice. its very appreciated🤝
Love, love , love the three of you together! Eric and Joel should definitely head to Garrett’s place in Charlotte if it’s possible!! This was an XL podcast in the very best way- loads of info and insight with plenty of fun in the mix.
There was a pit bull breeder who was mauled by his own pit bulls in California man. 😢 Couldn't understand it. I have a pit lab mix love my boy. Everyone he meets loves him. So when I heard about this tragic story, I was like damn...why? How? But I also know that dogs are the wolf's cousin. 🤔🤕 But following you for some years now along with Garret educated me so much on this subject and made me and Otis so much better. Love Garret. Love yall. Thank you for taking time in breaking things down💪🏾💪🏾😎
This was fantastic; lots of chemistry here. Hope to see you all talk again!
By far, the best podcast yet!!! Listening to two of the best dog trainers share their experiences was very enjoyable!!!
One thing that many people are unaware of is the affect of brain tumors in dogs. Many bully breeds are highly prone to this at a young age (under the age of 5). Dogs often exhibit unexplained and unprovoked aggression, oftentimes towards their own handlers. If you notice odd behavioral shifts, consult a vet asap.
Not noticing the signs is different to there being no signs
Pretty sure this happened to a friend of mine. Her pit mix randomly started lashing out one day, and eventually killed her cat that it was best friends with until that point. Go ahold of the people she got the puppy from, siblings had brain tumours. Every dog from the litter, and the parents had been put down due to aggression, and by put down, some were put down by vets. Others by cops. Wild stuff.
Brain tumors in humans also can change personality and cause physical symptoms and deficits, which usually prompt testing and diagnosis. 🕊
@@satansforeskin8164I became aware of this when I had multiple clients get mauled by their own pitbulls. Dogs that they adored. And this wasn’t just a bite- this involved missing fingers, skin grafts, and near fatalities. It was such an alarming and noticeable trend amongst my clients, that I asked a vet about it, and they explained to me the high instance of brain tumors in pitties. The vet said it’s become such a problem that they have started recommending owners screen their dogs or avoid the breed all together.
When I was a kid, we had white GSD's. One of them, a male, developed a brain tumor at one year of age. He was even put through k9 training and obedience from the start. He was the sweetest, smartest, family guardian & companion dog until that tumor showed up. Then the unpredictable aggression started and we couldn't get him off of a person once he started biting. He became unable to use that GSD intuition of sensing who was a danger and who wasn't and attacked adult family friends who were just playing with us like they always did and who the dog knew well. It was very sad and unfortunate. The sudden aggression was THE sign that he might have a brain tumor.
Love all your content. Thank you for covering real issues honestly ☺️ As to your conversation about young animals coming into their own, there is a documentary on young elephants who were left to live with no parents and they grew up to kill rhinos and be little punks. The solution was to bring in older male elephants. So funny, as I was typing this you brought it up.
I really like the chemistry when you guys go off on hypothetical scenarios! It is so much fun, you guys turn into adult little boys 😆❤
This was such a good episode ❤ always love listening to this trio, I've learned so much from Joel and Garrett and they've helped me with my reactive Australian Shepherd, he's 8 now and neutral 99 percent of the time and has become much more confident. I've been officially training him since he was 5 with the help of Joel and later on Garretts videos. Just wanted to express my immense gratitude, cheers Garrett, Joel, and Eric🎉🎉🎉
I have a pit mix, other half is GSD. He came from a bad background at 8 months, zero human and dog socialization. He is now the most friendly, sociable, and confrontation averse dog with people and dogs at the park. Why? He has never been in charge of anything at all in his life since I took him home, and he has never had to protect me or himself from anything. He looks to me for everything and as long as I am with him he is never unsure or unpredictable. He is also never afraid of me. I've never reacted out of anger to him, ever. Even when he shredded my $500 area rug into a pile of blue thread. Every out of control, dangerous pit I have ever seen is the result of an irresponsible, incapable, or ignorant owner. Powerful dogs need capable handling and the vast majority of people can't even handle their own lives, much less a powerful, willful animal's life.
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So. So. true! Agree 100%! As I said in my comment above, there are too many (well meaning) people in the rescue community who ascribe to the "just love the dog and everything will be ok" philosophy. They check to make sure you don't have a criminal background before they will release a pit bull to you but they make zero assessment of the adopter's leadership ability.
Facts tell otherwise.
I like the message but I've handled groups of 6-8 week puppies with wildly different personalities. The ones that are savagely snarling and contesting everything are not great candidates as pets, at least with guardian breeds. It's not like it's always the runt either. You want the Saint of your breed? Find the puppy that sits when everyone else is going ape at like six weeks. Assuming a good owner etc...
Its nice to simplify the issue to just the owners being at fault but its just not realistic. Dogs under the umbrella "Pitbull" were bred for fighting and bloodsport and a bad owner may magnify the issue but never will it be the sole cause. Many are nice but in the chance they kill that is simply their breed trait. Fatal dog attack statistics often have incidents of people who properly cared for the dog but they still kill. Its genetic, no need to pussyfoot around the issue.
I've NEVER watched a full podcast before today. I watch both Beckman & American dog training. I thoughrly enjoyed listening to your podcast. Good stuff.
When i was young, 6-7, return home from school, there was a guy with a dog and 5-6 puppies in his yard, beg him to give me one coz i was 100% dog person. When i return home my mother took the puppy from my hands and she throw it from the window, slap me, told me 'I DON'T WANT ANIMALS IN MY HOUSE" 30 years later, today, when i see dogs i go in tears, i'm not able to have strong bonds with other people or animals, i don't want to make family. I love my mother but i never forgive her. I saw your methods and i have to say you're great with dogs!
I'm SO sorry to hear what your mother did. No. Words. 😭
@@ltpdogtraining6325 Her mother died by echinococcosis and she was scared-overprotected, i didn't knew that tho, and had nothing to do with me... some times people need training! 😅
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It’s not too late for you to bond with a dog!
What does having a psychotic mom have to do with dog training? I hope you're getting some help.
Genetics are all important when selecting a breed of dog!
Why do humans kill billions of species!?
Crucial. I have a really gentle kind therapy dog {Whippet} who works with vulnerable people- her genes are such that her relatives are equally gentle and are also therapy dogs. .
Didn't expect to learn about my own drives and redirected anger. Thanks Garrett for bravely traversing those touchy subjects in order to give us viewers a better understanding of our own selves I feel less crazy after hearing that so thanks guys.
I just found your Chanel by accident searching for trainers . And this comes up . I have to say I took in a foster Pitt that was a shelter dog . Absolutely gorgeous boy . He was great with his first foster who had kids and a husband and farm animals . Then he was adopted , problem started there . 3 week into the adoption they called and wanted him gone immediately. They said he tryed to bite the wife . Well talking with them I feel like they was one of those people “ I have a big bad dog “ attitude. So he came to me . But I had limits with him and I was the boss . But that made me have a really good relationship with him , then he didn’t just bite my husband he jumped full force and went for his upper body . Then he went after my adult grandson then acually bite my son . He was structured in my home . Kenneled when I was not in control of him . This all was over a 3 month period . He had a light switch and I was seeing it more and more for no reason . He would get fixated on something and it took me a lot to get him focused on something else . I took him to a few trainers and all said oh he loves you when he growled and gave them that stare . Honestly he was a very strong dog and I’m only 5 ft and 112 pounds . Since I have horses I was able to hang onto him . But honestly the light switch started happening more and more with men . And I couldn’t live with myself if for some reason he was to get away from me and hurt or possibly kill somebone . So I had him euthanized. It killed me inside because I felt I really loved him and him me . But I couldn’t live with myself if he really hurt someone . I had him cremated and brought him home . It kills me these dogs are failed early in their life by irresponsible owners . I’ve had putts for years and have 2 now both from shelters and they’re 2 of the sweetest best dogs I’ve owned . Sleep with the baby chicks kittens just love on everything and everyone. I believe structural upbringing is so important. I was searching for training and experience for when the next shelter dog comes along that needs some training and structure so hopefully I can help that one day. I saw a corso female needing a home that had really good family up bringing . No fault of hers they couldn’t keep her but was too late . She found a home . But honestly like you just said in the beginning people are looking for protection and I live in Montana in middle of no where so I will look but want to be prepared
Damn dude, this topic is harsh. I've had my dog for 15 years, Australian shepherd, and even though he went through a biting phase with me and my family, we were able to sort things out, he understood to not over do it as he grew older. My younger siblings learnt to leave it alone when he was communicating discomfort. I could not imagine the disappointment I'd feel for myself if my dog to go hurt someone so seriously.
hey my black lab is same way only except he is protect agressive towards ups and fed ex , or anybody that is not in my pack
High drive dogs bred to nip at large ass animals. Just have to train and manage it like they were talking about. A lot of aussies get like this and I think it's because people just don't give them anything to do to get their energy out. They were a fad dog for a while too, couple that with shit breeding you got a wound for sound animal with no training. Disaster for the wrong family. Good work!
How bad were the bites?
love you guys. Nadia and I run a structured day care boarding in phoenix az. We watch beckman and recommend particular training u provide to customers. Information is so good that your talking against the cookie community
Thursdays are my Fridays at work and listening to you guys is the best part! Love Garrett as well, I used to be R+ only but his shorts kept coming up in my feed and I went from hate watching to thinking what he said makes a lot of sense and now being a member on his website Edited to add: Would love to see you guys on Garrett's podcast! And would also LOVE to hear more about orcas and orca training! They are one of my favorite animals and if I could go back in time I'd study marine biology SPECIFICALLY just so I could study orcas.
Thursdays just make my week just a little better now too!
This one was sooo good absolutely enjoyed this conversation.
This does not have more views or likes than it deserves. I am a 1st time dobie owner. 21 years old , not to get personal but no dad…you get the picture. But the whole convo was literally perfect. All you guys as dads is what we need more in the world. Props to you guys. People need to take more accountability.
Garrett is the best! I have learned so much about owning my cane corso from him ❤
Fabulous, will be rewatching again & again audio is not enough 🙌 🙏💕 great podcast guys
I really think as we get older in years, we need to examine what kind of dog we can truly handle. “Responsible ownership”=🙌🏼
Excellent interview and discussion.
Love these 2 channels! Garret is amazing! And Beckman is awesome. Keep up the content fellas!
I've always said that the more dogs you own, with each one there's the possibility that they will follow pack mentality instead of listening to the owner. Especially if the owner is a weak one. Garret brought up something that I never thought of before- that some animals respond better to women, because they are from a matriarchal society. That's fascinating and makes total sense.
yes with hyenas and elephants being a few of them. a female hyena is even born with a ¨penis¨ (its a long clitoris that is longer than a male hyenas penis)
Totally agree with the matriarchal theory. I have 2 dogs, I'm a 54 year old woman and I am their boss. A big male friend has a massive strong american bulldog/dogo argentino mix. Everyone is frightened of that dog, the owner controls him by strength and an e-collar. Yet when I say sit, his dog sits, immediately, and stays sitting until I say OK. He responds to my energy without question where as his owner has to use strength.
@@sportysbusiness That is so cool! Nothing like seeing in in real life.
I think that makes sense, I had five kids and i am MOTHER! To my kids and my dogs. I adore both but ultimately I’m in charge, no question!
🤗🙂😉🙃 .... one more, to "backtrack" here (I enjoyed #40, just now) ... thank you, for sharing your time, it feels like I am hanging-out with my 5 brothers, when I hear you two .. (this week has been some hard family time, but, things are settling, SO--- this is my free-and-learn fun time, again ❤
My two favourite dog training channels, both of your channels have taught me so much. Thank you and Garret for sharing your knowledge with us.
Golden combination, these two trainers.. ❤️🇳🇴
Great podcast. Definitely more content with you folks all together!
I am so glad to hear the conversation about managing certain dogs' behavior rather than 'curing' them all -- our dog cannot be around children, will lash out if a stranger approaches us, and has to be carefully introduced to guests and new people (plus some etceteras)... I figured out a long time ago that it's our job to manage his behavior and be aware of his triggers because some things I cannot train out of him (and he's a pretty well-trained dog if I do say so myself) -- they are hard-wired in his brain due to whatever (genetics, trauma, who knows). I knew he was not going to be easy when I met him as a puppy, but I felt he needed someone who WOULD be patient and vigilant in order to give him his best life. His behavior is my responsibility.
This! 💯
Was introduced to a hunting dog that had immense training and owners kept him kenneled and when taking on trips owner wondered why he did not listen to commands. Once rehomed from trainer the consistency needs to be continued.
Hey Garrett, it's not a political thing. I'm a progressive and most people in the comments can hate me if they want to. But I discipline my two XL Kangal mix and I discipline my young kids as well, because children and dogs both need that in their lives. It's different but very similar, if that makes sense. I know people from the "right" and "left" who are deadbeat parents. I love you Joel and Garrett thank you so much for your videos guys!! I'm 125lb female and if I didn't have your advice and demonstrations with XL dogs it would have been massively harder to train my giant girls 💜💙💚
I have just said similar to my OH the other day, I have a 7 month rottie. And he has started pushing his luck, he needs a firm hand and someone to look up too otherwise I can see how they can become unruly! I am not a novice dog owner I have had a German shepherd and such before but the wrong type of dog in the wrong hands could be and is catastrophic! Like you say you discipline your kids for right and wrong, stop all the pansy stuff and get the dog taught properly!
Same. I have a well-mannered obedient intact 150lbs Boerboel. I am very left. Politics has nothing to do with good dog ownership. It's about relentless discipline, structure and love.
@evangeloevoxi I am a leftist and I agree that politics is unrelated to ability at dog training. I am not a good dog trainer so I have a chihuahua miniature schnauzer mix. He's a good dog and very loyal but I'm happy he is small. He eats less and takes up less room. You say you have a Kangal mix. Do you know what other breeds are in their gene pool? They were used to protect the flocks from wolves in Asia and Eastern Europe. What do you use them for?
This was a great listen! Two great trainers!
On 'what role does leadership have on behaviour' - One of my jobs used to be going into High Schools (13-15 year olds.) and spending a couple of months talking with the students, class by class, about 'sexual good manners'. A tough topic, the kids are interested but don't want to SEEM too interested and they've already learned a bunch of 'bad' ideas and you have to be able to open up the conversation AND give clear positive ideas about respect and consent and good behaviours. NOW - the difference between different schools was ASTONISHING. Nothing to do with money/suburb either. Just the leadership in one school set a high bar for student behaviour and the kids in that school treated us visitor teachers with respect and good manners and were focused on LEARNING. Leadership in a different school, same kids, often same suburb but the kids in THAT school were like half wild creatures, loud, chaotic, rude and overly impressed with their own knowledge. This 'difference' was repeated over many many schools where the student body was essentially from the same area, same socio-economic strata, only difference was the adult leadership in play. We can argue about the word 'leadership' but whatever THAT is - it IS a thing and it DOES have a profound influence. I am very close to being a 'positive only' guy EXCEPT I struggle with those folk who dismiss 'leadership' as a thing with dogs... my experience with multiple large breed rescue dogs has been that the human leadership (Consistency of ALL humans in the household.) DOES effect the dogs in the house and 'corrections' are not violent or punishment.
I like Dr. Ian Dunbar who came from scientific/ data stats of dog violence behavior. Some of his previous videos are available still. He is a balanced trainer, has owned Malamutes, Rottweiler, lots of breeds personally. My Service Dog is named after him as he has been my training mentor since 2000
I purchases a ton of his courses om Udemy... haven't gotten to them yet. I got CPR first aid and a ton more- $400 worth😂 lol... in my defense I'm a pet sitter/ walker aspiring to get much more in to training....since I do already incorporate
@@Sally-vs9um that's great! I have trai ed, showed, bred Labradors since 1980s but began obedience showing of GSD pups with my brother. I traine my 3 Service dogs one who works at Best Buy with me daily for years until we started remote work at home
I thought he was “the father of positive reinforcement” or something like that?
This is the best conversation regarding dog behavior and training.
What an interesting discussion. I learned new info today, thanks!
I live in Ireland and own an XL Bully. They're not banned in Ireland, but it's a matter of time, for now they're restricted, meaning they're giving the individual owners and dogs a chance. It's a one strike policy. No strikes and both owner and dog lead a full happy life, one strike against any animal or human and the dog is put down and the owner is charged. My girl is sweet, but huge, and i'm very aware of how powerful she is, and what my responsibilities are. I had to take a course to learn more training, crate, obedience, socialisation and all that stuff, just because I will never take it for granted that she is a dog in the end. Thanks for the awesome podcast, great to see you all together, and I hope you do more.
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Amazing podcast 👏
OMG i love you guys! Perfect podcast
This was fire! I love this Garrett dude. We need more menn like him.
Excellent podcast. Loved the cross over analogy between people and dog behaviour. I grew up with a mother who curbed my teenage attitude with straight up non nonsense boundaries. I’m a novice dog owner with 2y/o well behaved (otherwise nutty) Labradoodle. I love your channel because of the leadership discussions - reminds me of my mum. This chat took my understanding of dogs a step further.
Thank you
I think you guys need to collab with Garrett once a month, at least. This was 🔥 just like the 1st time you had him on. So cool to see two trainers (and Eric, too) talking about all the things and some dog training, too. Can't wait to see the DIY K9 podcast, too. Should be epic!
DTSAN! Love it! If I signed up for trying to be one of Joel's trainers in his program that is exactly what I would be doing. Sadly I have severe photophobia (light sensitivity) if I'm not careful I end up hospitalised from it. I would definently be doing that shit AT NIGHT 😅 Love all three of you guys and the cross overs. Super engaging, entertaining and provoking of thought. You're all doing your local and domestic communities great services 🧡🇦🇺
I love you guys!!!! All 3 of you… sooo common sense!!!!! 👌🏻
I love all of your guy's content. I run a dog training business, METAK9 Academy, in Orange County. You guys have really helped shape me as a trainer over the years. I deal with a lot of very tough dogs and having an archive of content to help problem solve is priceless. Hello, the bin about suppression and modification was spot on. People are worried about making the dog more aggressive. I always gotta be direct and remind them that your dog already attacks people. i'm trying refresh it's "tool box" with positive behaviors.
Good show!! Most issues come from people not getting breeds that are suitable for them and their lifestyle’s and capabilities. I have a Boerboel and the amount of time that is required to train and exercise him is significant. Also your property needs to be suitable as well.
Great video Sam and Rachel! I hate roller coasters but I think I'll love this opti coaster.
Layering over undesirable behaviors can happen in some instances but you always need to keep reinforcing the replacement behavior eg. side submission and you have to see the small "tells" that most people miss that lead up to the undesiable behavior
I don't know if you'll look back at at comments for this video, but hopefully you see this. For the belt color, you should do a collar for the helper dog and a leash for the trainer. Thanks for the great videos I use many of your tips on my dogs and my mom's dog.
WOW 👌🏻 This was a great talk ! 🤗
This is one of the best podcast about Dogs I‘ve ever heard….because you speak not so much about dogs, instead of humans. And THIS is it!
I love Garret❤❤❤ Wonderful episode. I love my Corso and i can't imagine my Zeus killing someone. I am all about training and making sure that Zeus is right with me at all times. That is his job.
"Pits, they just have a mechanism." Oh heck yeah they do!
Great show ❤
Garreth Spitting facts👍 Great Show!
Another thought on why some trainers rag on suppression of a certain behavior is because that behavior is a result of a different problem. An example is when Joel tells clients to exercise their dog more and they’ll see a reduction in reactivity. The root cause of the reactivity was too much energy and by solving that the reactivity goes down. But that said, every dog and every situation is different. Some behaviors are serious enough they need to be suppressed right away while the trainer also works on the root cause.
"Even if it cant be fixed, it can be managed." I know that I am a leader and this gives me hope for my Cane Corso mix. He came from the county shelter as an adult so I dont know his history. This is very helpful. Thank you.
The letters on the certificate should be: WDTAD We’ll do this all day
It is amazing how subtle but powerful conditioning is.
Cool podcast!! Learned very much...
Very interesting podcast. I would love to see you go to his place and work together. Either on a podcast or even just a training video of some kind. It was very interesting how he explained about the cross over behaviors. It helped me to stop trying to figure out why my dog did what he did. It was nearly 5 years ago and I still would wonder about it and it never happened again.
Nice podcast. Realy enjoyed the Information.
Every time my amstaff going out side he's headed right for the lean-to. Sniffing the mouse hole where they get into our garage. I don't even know when or how he learned it but he even almost immediately after hearing the word mouse knew what it was
Absolutely disturbing news again in the uk in the last couple of days. Lady baby sitting her grandson, young dogs got into a fight and she tried to break them up but they turned on her and killed her, and quickly too! XL Bullies again!! Honestly, people really don't understand this breed nor take the initiative to learn about behaviours for them (do's and don'ts re movement, noise etc )
Have you seen the owner on KZhead , saying sorry 🙄 I have zero sympathy for him. I feel for his poor child that witnessed his grandmother killed
@saffyfeefee I did and for a moment also felt sorry until I heard other statements. One saying he'd told her, if the dogs fight to break the fight up with a broom 😳
With a broom??! 😮 Some people don't deserve to look after animals. This adds more stigma to an already stigmatized breed. Irresponsible owners are 90% of the time to blame, the other 10% is being victim to paying for a poorly bred dog.
@ShJDoc she was trying to break up fighting pups when she was attacked and had been told to distract them with the broom. She wasn't the owner, she was baby sitting her grandson when the incident happened. Thank God he managed to get out of the house. The dogs have been destroyed. She shouldn't have been left with them or given the advice she was rhat sealed her fate. The dogs probably thought she was attacking the youngsters
@@carolbarnicro6250 yes you are right, she should never have been put in that situation. Another example of a lazy owner passing the buck on to someone else. Gives more stigma on to an already stigmatized breed, but the owners... Nothing! It's disgusting.
I see a lot of content creators attempting to do podcasts. They're not interesting enough to spend my time listening to. Your content always has substance that's worth listening to and chiming in on (when YT doesn't ghost or delete my input)
You can tell Joel is a scientist because whenever he’s asked a question he makes it clear there are soooo many different angles to view things haha Garret is awesome, I’m defs a fan now :)
The one who made the final determination statements about homeless people being more aggressive because he walked down the street ten years ago and feels they are 10x more aggressive now?
Europe! Get your act together. When I was in Germany in the early 90s they had a great dog culture.
I would love to see all 3 of you work dogs together . Just looked up Garrett as well
Once again great podcast
Great podcast!
I'd be interested in seeing 'familial' breed behavioral tendencies (if they exist). i didn't realize rotties were considered mastiffs till i met a cane corso and made the connection
I watched a program awhile back about a certain male pit bull that was used as a stud many, many times who killed someone. Then because multiple puppies in one of his litters ended up seriously injuring or killing people someone put two and two together and discovered that the dog and all of the litters he sired had a weird rage aggression that was hereditary and unfortunately he was used to breed so many times for so long that it was impossible to trace all the generations of dogs related to him. Literally they can trace so many injuries by dogs related to this one individual dog.
The dog was called Killer Kimbo
they were once herding dogs
Just happened in Essex England ... Horrible story ... 2 XL bully killed a 68 year lady...
There was a video about a 54 year old man trying to help some elderly from being attacked, getting killed himself. This video was floating around on yt. It is the most horrible thing i have ever seen. Im sorry but after watching that i dont think the xxl bully should be in common peoples hands.
I totally agree 👍🏽
I thought that these dogs had to be muzzled now?
@@ShJDoc it happened in the mans house
@@vikingdogmanship DEFINITELY not... XL Bullies tend to be owned by very insecure people {but are also thugs} The very worst type of person to own one. ''Soppy love'' is also not enough {when older women want to own an XL Bully}
Gosh Eric and Joel, you guys always make me laugh. I have to say, adorable duo😂
What is the procedure for training the 'Side Submission' position? Where can I find this information? Excellent podcast!!!!
If you could get Stonnie Dennis on the podcast he would be a trainer that definitely vibes with the pod. No nonsense tells it like it is dude. Very funny too and by coincidence just came out with a video about the catahoula leopard dog that killed its owner in Florida
I hadn't heard of Stonnie until I read your comment and watched that last video. I would agree, I think he would be a great compliment to the podcast. His manner of taking is such that provokes thought more than argument.
Yep Stonnie rocks! That particular video not one of his best but they’re all really good
Owner of two bull terriers, mother and son. AKC and ring trained and won enough to be grand champions. If I thought they would be a liability amidst all of the other dogs, I would never enter. I never worry about them, but I maintain in their mind that I am the pack leader. They are constantly testing in small ways, but once my voice drops, they know. How people handle these larger dogs, or pits, I don't know. If I want protection, I will get my gun. My dogs are not there for that. If your dogs are protecting you, guess who the alpha is?
I like this well said
Dangerous dogs are no laughing matters. In the end, it doesn't really matter if they are responsible for their own behavior or not if they are dangerous. My mom is a veterinarian, from a very rural town in Canada. I used to assist her a lot when I was a teenager and many, many farm dogs are wandering and dangerous out there. We had a number of instances where our lives were in actual danger but one comes to mind above all others. My mom was attacked and had 50 stitches in her face just a few years before retiring. Owner was a disabled older woman who just stood there crying as her Akita tore my mom's face up during the routine yearly visit. I was in the room assisting when it happened. It's only because my mom knows dog behavior that she didn't scream or fight back, just kept completely still and gently pulled the dog's jaw apart with her hands that he let her go. He then proceeded to walk around the room like nothing happened while we exited together. He could have killed her easily. Turns out owner was afraid of him, didn't dare pull him off the sofa and such and locked him up when her grandkids visited, but wanted a big dog to protect her. It was so mind-boggingly irresponsible, I don't even understand how she could think it was a good idea not to mention it to the veterinarian who litterally had her face next to him while examining him. Dog ended up being put down the next day, not by my mom, as she was in the hospital. Dog lost his life, my mom her confidence and her face. Why? Because that lady was afraid and wanted a protector while not understanding this animal wasn't a passive hand gun.
Finally... Someone brings up WHAT A DOG WAS CREATED FOR !!! I wanna scream everytime i hear someone got a pitbull & then blames the dog when it matures & doesnt like other dogs anymore. How a dog is raised, has little to do with how it will act. Genetics matter ! Ive been around pitbulls my entire life & will always have pits. But, anyone who claims they arent dangerous, is just fooling themselves & really has no clue what they're talking about.. theyre a 40-50lb beartrap with legs ! Theyre fast, powerful & when they go, they GO !
Just started watching but damn, two go-to KZheadrs for training my Husky x GSD as a senior citizen potential (probable!?) victim. I'm in.
Nice podcast, thanks for being real. I'm curious to know if sex of the dog is more likely to be a male if there is fatal aggression. Related to testosteron.
There are statistics on this. A spayed female is way less likely to bite someone than an intact male. These are just stats, not trying to persuade people into neutering their dogs.
I love when you have guests! Especially Garret, but such fantastic conversations happen. I hope youtube doesn't demontotize thus from the p*do & r*pe talk 😅 that was bold 😂😂 but, he has very clear analogies lmao. Have him again! & have more! Last week's was also fab 👌 great raw food conversation.
THANK YOU THANK YOU for this pod!wth ...3000 speaking out for a killer of humans, geez, thats pretty scary! Im wondering if Star was looking for an "honorable mention" as Molly obviously has done the work and research above and beyond 😂 I so appreciate your guy's podcast, which seems to be real people talking about real things...all the while stating that you don't know everything - humility is very attractive. Loving the "bromance" here, please keep em coming the world doesn't make much sense rn, this pod made sense....👍👍 💞🐩