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I just want to apologise for this video taking so long. In reality it wasn't THIS video that took 5 months, this was more around 9 weeks - coming off of several months of videos that just weren't any good at all. I would hope, and also expect, that to be the longest period without an upload ever. I am still alive, yes I am bald, I've been bald for an entire year now please stop coming into my stream and asking why/when I went bald.
@LeonMasseyАй бұрын
I'm excited to watch it!
@smilejakobyАй бұрын
With the production quality of your videos, the wait is always worth it. Don’t beat yourself up for taking your time.
@brokenman4414Ай бұрын
Production and editing in this is fuckin top tier - absolutely well worth it brother
@ophero108Ай бұрын
Welcome to the BGC
@Bounty2223Ай бұрын
Never need to apologize for taking your time king, we'll let you cook.
@dnl111895Ай бұрын
Gon was simply banned because Mishima mains were seen running out of the venues crying when they were told Electrics were now useless
@Zwyrx_HgqfyggzАй бұрын
Coolio
@JAXI0NАй бұрын
Funny you say that when Mishimas second most spammed move: hellsweep, especially Heihachi's, was the second best counter against Gon😂
@ametozukumazu6073Ай бұрын
@@JAXI0N What the fuck are you doing in my replies, get back to the Fountain
@Zwyrx_HgqfyggzАй бұрын
Heihachis god fist was mid, as @@ametozukumazu6073 said he had vr good tools to deal with him.
@cank2111Ай бұрын
@@ametozukumazu6073what's the first best?
@chasefromm8607Ай бұрын
Gon is that terrible awful situation were your going to class to take an exam and suddenly out of nowhere that final thing your teacher told you about might be on the test was actually the whole test to begin with.
@omegazero5884Ай бұрын
Good memories of highschool where our teacher said "Don't worry, Cos Sin and Tan wont be on the calculus test thats next years thing" before the test having 10 questions requiring that knowledge.
@DoodleWillАй бұрын
I was told once that "if it's on the internet, it will *always* be on the internet" but what I find is that entropy and the internet dark forest theory creates a reality where old stuff is becoming *exponentially* more difficult to find with every year that passes Pretty sobering to think about If a guy through a dead forum complains about Gon, but no one is there to read his post, did he complain at all?
@superbro6413Ай бұрын
yes he did complain
@guccipotato9466Ай бұрын
@@guccipotato9466but if we have no proof, we’ve no choice but to *assume* it may never have happened. that’s the conundrum!
@tappydani9378Ай бұрын
Schrodinger’s Gon says Gon was both legal and banned until we have a confirmation
@bulb9970Ай бұрын
The "Chase Dat Gold LARP Rap" is gone as far as I can tell and it's a huge loss
@Thatonedude917Ай бұрын
@@tappydani9378 I never got why people even question this. Humans are not the center of the universe if something happens, and no one saw it doesn't mean it suddenly didn't happen.
@garaktartv3647Ай бұрын
OH HELL YEA
@CONEYZZАй бұрын
is that the legendary King god CONEY himself?!
@SomeRandomDude821Ай бұрын
we love tekken
@FrancisEctomorpheАй бұрын
yow you one of the super smash bro's ultimate guy's part of panda
@adriakkoartisto5567Ай бұрын
When can we expect the video?
@jeffbaker9180Ай бұрын
Hi coney
@Spacie_687Ай бұрын
The AsumSaus thumbnail joke at 15:51 got me good
@Leet-iz2fzАй бұрын
Gon Final Destination No Items
@Vitor20XXАй бұрын
aMSa: The Only Gon (who could do it)
@gearedwormАй бұрын
the balatro Nope! at 1:38 made me flinch in anger.
@smantarn30Ай бұрын
As a fellow Balatro enjoyer, I feel your pain.
@BridgetGXАй бұрын
Ditto
@theassass1n_313Ай бұрын
Heihachi should consider pivoting to high card instead of using that three of a kind punch combo
@GogotteandSigАй бұрын
it's called The Wheel 'cuz it's the Wheel of Samsara and boy am I suffering
@TehNoobinessАй бұрын
dipped in doctor Bs chili oil
@chastermief839Ай бұрын
7:45 Anyone that is a fan of Maximilian knows about Biofreaks, also I was today years old when I learned about a slur that's been around since the Korean War. Thanks I guess Leon.
@FinalDragoonАй бұрын
The chinder chagger ninja dagger
@FeiFongWangАй бұрын
yeah that feels like something I/someone would absolutely walk into on accident, much like that game I guess lmfao.
@blujay1294Ай бұрын
I remember the game from sbfp and how they challenged Max to beat it.
@drews8900Ай бұрын
In a sense, I guess they were banned from T3 for the same reason chess tournaments have dress codes. It's not that playing a grandmaster match wearing an ahegao hoddie is unfair or cheating, it's that it's not in the spirit of the game. What that "spirit of the game" is is what's open to interpretation and has some people foaming at the mouth over the mere existence of Happy Chaos, while others simply accept it. Where that line gets drawn is always going to be somewhat arbitrary, and is going to change over time.
@pedroscoponi4905Ай бұрын
No shirt No shoes No Gon
@TheCrewExpendableАй бұрын
@@TheCrewExpendablewhy should I have to wear a shirt and shoes just to earn the right to play as Gon?
@GloomdrakeАй бұрын
@@Gloomdrake This is a classy establishment. Next you're going to tell me you don't hold the arcade stick with pinkies out!
@TheCrewExpendableАй бұрын
thankfully we allreaydy know the smell of the game
@shadou1234567Ай бұрын
If my clothes aren't in the "spirit of the game", then it must be a fashion game. No, it's Chess. Watch guys in sweats win world series of poker. Similar to Chess, elitist say stuff like you said, not the people who like to have fun
@kylespevak6781Ай бұрын
Your editing and animation is so damn clean, those 20 minutes felt like 5 at most. I don't know the first damn thing about fighting games but your videos are so captivating even someone who'd lose to Gon like me can enjoy them.
@thesilverw0lfАй бұрын
You have no idea how many Tekken characters who fit the bill of 'They're not winning, you're just losing' applies to. Hwoarang is one of the the worst characters in T8...if you lab him for 30 hours...
@punishedwhispers1218Ай бұрын
This is true, perhaps I should have elaborated. If you look at characters like Hwoarang, or Ling, they do have VERY high knowledge walls to overcome, but after that point there's still a mind game within their kit. I also don't necessarily find the match ups fun, but there is a more elaborate game that the player imparts onto the character as much as the character imparts onto the player. Once the knowledge check of these characters fades away there's very little going on, which is the problem.
@LeonMasseyАй бұрын
Other notes: * Gon is one of the few characters not added to Tekken Tag Tournament 2. There is no sign of a Tekken Tag Tournament 3.
@austinreed7343Ай бұрын
I remember harada mentioning because of licensing he will most likely never return.
@wilbo_bagginsАй бұрын
The animation quality on these vids are insane. Love your stuff!
@myrtlebee644Ай бұрын
Great video! I have fond memories of playing Dr. B back in the day. These two characters getting banned makes me think of the ban on wobbling. At the time, I thought it was a stupid decision. Nerfing a character that was almost a non-presence at major tournaments struck me as just whiny players being whiny. But at the end of the day, a game needs to be fun. I remember there was a lot of talk about Eddy & Christie's b14 in Tekken Tag 2. People defended it by saying that it was possible, with tons and tons of practice against that specific move, it could be overcome. Kind of. But did that make the characters fun to fight against? Or negate the fact that it took almost no effort to cheese b14 combos but tons of effort and concentration to counter them? Maybe not. It's a difficult one. There have been numerous online Keyforge tournaments that banned Heart of The Forest despite many other cards being more powerful, but people just straight up despise that card and the restrictions it forces on both gameplay and deck selection. It doesn't matter how much you can point fingers at people being whiny. If all those people stop playing and the game dies, is that the better outcome?
@Slick_TailsАй бұрын
I think with wobbling, the problem was there was no room for outplay once you got caught in it. But at the higher level most people knew how to work around it. But even then, there’s the famous clip of mew2king getting caught in it at a small tourney, and he looks so absolutely sad lol
@isaiahjohn9642Ай бұрын
Gon but not forgotten ❤
@eddacheАй бұрын
18:47 Generally I agree with the shirt's mindset, but having a pushback on it so it doesn't get out of hand is good, too. The amount of times I've see someone say "git gud" as a catch-all shutdown of even valid criticism is obnoxious. Good vid.
@superbnnsАй бұрын
The way you tell these stories is absolutely phenomenal. Honestly, i go back and re-watch so many of your videos just to see the funny animations and listen to these great stories told in such an interesting way. Taking the knowledge and making a fun story out of it, or a lesson, or something else always makes my day better when i listen and watch your content. Keep doin what your doin, its great!
@hyperlink6547Ай бұрын
Amazing video quality, holy shit the 3d modeling just for a video is crazy
@crap616Ай бұрын
0:48 IS THAT RAKUGA KIDS
@nore5888Ай бұрын
Idk
@citrusblast4372Ай бұрын
Yes
@uberpwner48Ай бұрын
I've heard that there's a pretty significant number of people still actively playing Tekken 3 in India. something that could've helped to get info on the competitive scene
@Stryver103Ай бұрын
Yeah he should have just reached out bro why didn't he do that thing you "heard" of?
@FrostileАй бұрын
@@Frostile Someone clearly doesn't know how researching works.
@user-lq1tp4yw3eАй бұрын
nobody plays gon here 😹 he's not officially banned anywhere but like with south korea and tekken 2 bruce, people don't play him as a silent agreement that broken characters are forbidden
@dalelumina3Ай бұрын
The amount of animation in this video is INSANE! Amazingly clean and informative work, awesome stuff!
@AdventureSpenceАй бұрын
Wow; the editing on the KBD section! And I didn't know about the nitty gritties of the gameplay of these two. Thanks for sharing! Great video!
@sneharashmi7553Ай бұрын
Every single video of yours I see I keep being further impressed by your amazing editing! Fantastic work!
@IdentityChristАй бұрын
Great video Leon! There is something about the design of older fighting games that I kind of miss. Things being less intended for the competitive scene, but said scene adapts anyway and the weird revelations that come along the way. the weird awkward characters that play fast and loose tend to be a lot of fun to explore and play.
@robertgeorge4602Ай бұрын
I really love editing and production value on this video. Great job!
@StanNotSoSaintАй бұрын
7:47 in their defense, i literally have never heard that slur in my life and would not have thought of it as one and that's in 2024
@bonafide5364Ай бұрын
Yeah, that part completely baffled me; I couldn't even *begin* to decipher what group or ailment it could even be referring to. Then again, I guess you could argue that's the case for a lot of that kind of terminology.
@BIGBLUBLURАй бұрын
Honestly, good on you both
@doctordice2doctordice210Ай бұрын
i haven't caught a massey video in a long time, it's insane how much visual flair your videos have gotten over the past while. super engaging stuff
@Kaius.Ай бұрын
Awesome edit man, these 3D models and background animations are very cool.
@Vitor20XXАй бұрын
The animations and 3D spaces are great. Awesome video!
@thetreeoutsideАй бұрын
This video was amazing, I absolutely love your editing!! More Tekken videos pleaseeeee
@reecerox2Ай бұрын
The 3d spaces you create, for the background and other things, are really cool 3:28 I like how Gon walks offscreen when the camera wasnt focusing on him anymore
@sakarainАй бұрын
This hit my algorithm and just want to comment to boost it and say this was an excellent video. Love the editing style!!!
@speckwiiАй бұрын
welcome back to your channel Leon massive
@JayDayKayАй бұрын
7:48 gonna be honest here, I had no idea that was a slur (tbh this is the first time I've seen it in any context), and I can't figure out how it's supposed to be a slur, so I can definitely see how, if the devs had a vaguely similar-ish background to me (Midwest and/or 90% WASP populated town) they'd have no idea that they were being offensive.
@paolomandala02Ай бұрын
It makes me happy to see one of these videos finally get some traction again. These last few haven’t done great, and it makes me sad to see an essayist of Leon’s caliber not get much attention
@PabloRodriguez-ov9sxАй бұрын
You're right, I'm not putting Chun li Figures into jars. Im putting Marissa figures into jars.
@punishedwhispers1218Ай бұрын
Man the production alone on this video got a like from me. Great little external animations, 3:30 I love the personality you gave him when the spotlight goes off and he wanders out of shot is just brilliant.
@eyecontactleadstoАй бұрын
leon massey videos are always worth the wait
@seansagley6103Ай бұрын
Man, I would've watched this video even if it was just game clips and site screenshots but the editing here made this such a nice experience, easily worth recommending and coming back too 😁
@SeedersPhDАй бұрын
Cant believe you balatro wheel of fortune noped me within the first 2 minutes, I HAVE PTSD MAN YOU CANT JUST FLASH THAT
@RedRiotRossАй бұрын
Amazing video dude, hope you're doing well. The production quality is awesome.
@Feelin-LuckyАй бұрын
That little Balatro Wheel of Fortune "Nope!" hit SOMEONE right in the recent PTSD, I know it
@HolyDeviant1Ай бұрын
Hey, Leon. Just wanted to say I’ve been watching your stuff ever since the Twelve video, and I’m super impressed by how much your craft has evolved. Keep it up.
@artofajax7199Ай бұрын
Nice video! Very informative! I like how Dr. B is just a cardboard cutout and Gon is fully animated. I personally love joke characters because they stand out from everyone else. Why choose from a bunch of punchy dudes when I can pick the kangaro/dinosaur with boxing gloves, old man or bear? Joke characters are fun to play and funny to win with. Besides, if "being annoying" was justifiable reason to ban characters, half the roster of every game in existence would get banned.
@HugelagАй бұрын
Great video! Well written and cool editing. I have never actually seen that basement stage in Tekken 3 before! :o
@bananabike279Ай бұрын
I love Leon. I come here for the story, I leave with the knowledge of More Slurs seriously though, amazing video, Ive always been so fascinated with Gon and i even read the manga cos of how much I love this lil agumon guy and this is more than I ever couldve dreamed of Also, fucking fantastic editing as always the stair clip made me bust out laughing
@AzazeleaАй бұрын
I was a teenager when Tekken 3 was a thing, and it is what got me into the series and one of the games that made me actually devote effort to learning how fighting games worked. Thank you so much for this, I love this video, and how it makes me feel.
@ArborDazeАй бұрын
Your editing has become absolutely godlike!
@tentarj4753Ай бұрын
Hell yeah, I've been loving Tekken 8 and it's been a long day at work. A Tekken video from you is like a miracle lol
@TrueYankeeFanАй бұрын
i'm such a layton fan, I instantly recognised the song used. HUge W Leon. I love it when you add layton music to your vids
@Greennoob2Ай бұрын
The presentation of this one was amazing!
@Duffy_SSBMАй бұрын
2:50 I love watching a seemingly random video about a game I’ve never played only to find out it’s actually detractor style content, dood
@NameAvailableАй бұрын
I just wanted to say that I see the incredible editing haha, I see you. Great work as usual!
@ahnixcreationsАй бұрын
My favorite quote: "And bending down beside the glowing bars Murmur, a little sadly How Gon fled And paced upon the mountains overhead And hid his face Amid a crowd of stars."
@EagleBeagle4886Ай бұрын
This was a funny and good watch, thanks. Funny to see listen about a low tier character being banned simply because they play differently and have a subset of rules/knowledge within the game especially these days considering some of the seemingly broken things fighting game characters can do these days
@foxplayz3117Ай бұрын
This is the first video I´ve seen from you, and I just gotta say I LOVE your editing in this!
@MiwaSataАй бұрын
damn the direction of the video was great
@SharntGroSabo13 күн бұрын
Hi, this is that random 'Sparing' discord user from the video :d I'm one of if not the most long-lasting Tekken 3 online diehards and I have my own take on what a modern tier list with a dedicated player base would look like, it's in my profile description if you are curious Also one of the high level Indian tournaments was taken by a Gon player recently, it's in one of their still active archives But by no means do I take away from this video, the 'there was never a universal rule set' aspect is present to this day, it was interesting to see the topic tackled
@Tekken3MuseumАй бұрын
I thought you'd mention the fact that Dr.B has an entire moveset of Heihachi, but only under some weird circumstances. It's called ''True Stance'' and there's like about 2 ways to get into it, but in true Dr.B fashion, it's very difficult to pull off, especially during a match.
@Exslider2Ай бұрын
The cardboard cutout is pretty funny on its own, but honestly you probably could've used the scientist from Half Life and nobody would bat an eye
@MizunoKetsubanАй бұрын
1:39 BALATRO MENTIONED :D awesome video as always... ive been in the "dont really give a fuck about tekken" crowd my entire life but this still kept me engaged all throughout. keep up the good work!!
@boltumblesАй бұрын
What a great 20 minute video that I definitely sat through all of. That one part, where you said the thing? Egad!
@stephenhancock7171Ай бұрын
THE GLORIOUS EGG MAN IS BACK
@1HenrinkАй бұрын
wooah the editing is so cool
@Funsline26 күн бұрын
7:30 Legend Of Mana music? Good taste as always Leon
@GrumpySylveonАй бұрын
You put WAY too much effort into this video and it's animations and I love every second of it.
@dogryme6Ай бұрын
the editing is crazy good...
@About9000Ай бұрын
I blame Gon for why Tekken 3 got no re-release. The licensing is only the PS1 version and Sony forbidds publishers and developers modifying PS1 games to be sold as PlayStation Classics.
@stephen2624Ай бұрын
Great video man! I hope the people from the Classic Tekken Discord server ended up usefull to you in the research and in footage (maybe im wrong but from the gameplay footage maybe its from the matches you had in there with us?). Im the one that just luckly guess that you were working on a Tekken 3 video because of a joke LOL. ps: love the Gon 3D model
@G_Travel99Ай бұрын
Every time I think I can't love you more, you do something like throw a balatro reference in
@AshLeeTheCatАй бұрын
Love the kings field IV ost used
@nightman922Ай бұрын
Yaaay more Leon! Always a pleasure 🙏
@EliTheGleasonАй бұрын
In short, Xiaoyu should be banned from ranked and tournament play.
@HanshakouАй бұрын
banned characters spend ten years in the joint
@livenishikireactionАй бұрын
Peak Leon Massey talking about Peak Tekken? Truly a great evening
@ArcadeStrikerАй бұрын
"They're really annoying" is also the reason smash ultimate players use to want to get rid of half the roster
@markee3738Ай бұрын
What?
@Tha-mountainАй бұрын
You're so right, but honey this is a Tekken video
@AllTheCoinoАй бұрын
@@AllTheCoino i know dw
@markee3738Ай бұрын
Smash ultimate's playerbase are the type of players to call footsies "camping" and treat anything other then going head first into your opponent "lame" With a playerbase like that, any character who's not a rush down is "annoying"
@doctordice2doctordice210Ай бұрын
Feeling extremely validated after almost a decade of arguing for the competitive viability of Smash Bros. with people who have likely never known Street Fighter without the Capcom Pro Tour, and appear to assume the CPT emerged fully formed in 1991.
@_SnowflameАй бұрын
gon was unironically my favorite character in t3 and i wish he'd get brought back for t8
@MRBONES-fg6csАй бұрын
I think you snuck in a really good summary right at the end. The duality of the word "uncompetitive".
@IsonDayaАй бұрын
"you didn't even know [Bio F.R.E.A.K.S.] existed until just now" me, a SBFP Fan: "Don't cite the deep magic to me, Witch. I was there when it was written."
@WaluTimeАй бұрын
Yesterday was a great day to subscribe lol, I will forever expect daily uploads. Jokes aside thanks for the pleasant surprise
@adammalm4733Ай бұрын
And yet another example of why you make my favorite FG videos. The research, the editing, and the jokes are just so fucking good, dude. It's also funny as a Soulcalibur fan seeing that Yoda was so clearly better implemented than Gon based on Soulcalibur's actual game design alone.
@spiffythealienАй бұрын
Hitboxes in soul calibur are much bigger and a characters range doesn't depend on their limbs
@shaghilathar3588Ай бұрын
Eh, his comedy has moved on from going "lol virgin" self deprecation spliced into every 2 minute of a video, but it's not much to write home about ether tbh
@doctordice2doctordice210Ай бұрын
Gods, your editing style? Closest to divinity our world will likely see. Your voiceover is well accompanying it as well.
@GuysitscorkyАй бұрын
BALATRO NOPE! NORTHERNLION IN BACKGROUND!!
@austinfletchermusicАй бұрын
HE’S BALD?!
@OGSumoАй бұрын
Who wants to bet he’s a type A viewer for Balatro
@arsonblu8333Ай бұрын
@@arsonblu8333 I'm a Type C viewer bro. I'm built different
@austinfletchermusicАй бұрын
omfg hiw was that N64 fighting game at 0:48 called again? childhood memory unlocked oO
@FenrisRMАй бұрын
American here. Never heard of zipperhead. Had to look up what it meant. I think it's pretty safe to say the devs didn't know it was a slur.
@sub7se7enАй бұрын
Definitely. I've never heard it before, either.
@Rhubarb120Ай бұрын
We love a leon massey upload. Certified lunch video material
@trutrutrain6746Ай бұрын
The editing in this video is so high quality
@maclo4Ай бұрын
I would do unspeakable things to Harada if they gave us DLC Dr B in tekken 8 where he's got like bionic legs and arms or something
@AlwaysRetr0Ай бұрын
A 3D inversion of a "Puppet" fighter mixed with Pokemon's "God-Tier Stats, Incredibly Limiting Ability" (Archeops, Slaking, Regigigas) where the main Fighter-Proxy is incredibly busted but is balanced by having to manage the position of Dr. B, who is always on the field and if hit takes WAY more damage than the proxy-fighter
@hambor12Ай бұрын
If the other fighter hits a position-swapping move on the proxy, Dr. B is in for a world of hurt lol. I'd love to see that new doctor
@redstealth5106Ай бұрын
I remember using Gon to beat the beat-em-up mode for Tekken 3
@Thatonedude917Ай бұрын
this video is very funny to me because when I was a casual playing tekken 3 way way back when I was like, idk 5 years old, I do remember both of these characters being infuriating to deal with, and when they were selected I did have less fun with the game, so ya know, I can see the reason for the ban lmao also idk what move it is, but I just remember being chained stunned by dr. b's remote, and until I actually go back and play tekken 3, I'll never know what was even going on with that move, or if I'm just misremembering something entirely
@mario101395Ай бұрын
The AsumSaus aMSa reference was brilliant!
@ruffes3141Ай бұрын
Gons running animation always kills me. He puts so much effort into it.
@harry_hydrogenАй бұрын
amazing work
@gamesmasteruploader48637 күн бұрын
Fantastic. There's already only a few pretty smart reviewers online essentially being the cream of the crop such as Joseph Anderson or Matthew Matosis that, in spite their gaming history, will never in a million years cover fighting games, and especially without even a smidge of the visual effort you now put into your own work. No disrespect to most other game analysts out there, but you're a rarity amongst an already small pool of well spoken, well researched, and well informed people who make some truly finely crafted content. Word salad to hopefully get your attention aside, I love your stuff! I hope to reach a similarly great presentation for my own videos someday. Cheers!
@XaiverhАй бұрын
Me and the rest of DSP-gang won't take this slander lying down. Unlike Dr.B
@HQRubbishАй бұрын
I know I say this every video, but I REALLY like your animations Leon. You've got like, a good idea of comic timing and composition, and the choice of framerate is *just* janky enough to make them stand out but not unwatchable.
@ruthgeorgeholt5680Ай бұрын
I was just rewatching your vids LMAO
@sairicks7993Ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid
@fhjunior6183Ай бұрын
Thanks for a well edited and enjoyable video, do you mind writing the music credits?
I just want to apologise for this video taking so long. In reality it wasn't THIS video that took 5 months, this was more around 9 weeks - coming off of several months of videos that just weren't any good at all. I would hope, and also expect, that to be the longest period without an upload ever. I am still alive, yes I am bald, I've been bald for an entire year now please stop coming into my stream and asking why/when I went bald.
I'm excited to watch it!
With the production quality of your videos, the wait is always worth it. Don’t beat yourself up for taking your time.
Production and editing in this is fuckin top tier - absolutely well worth it brother
Welcome to the BGC
Never need to apologize for taking your time king, we'll let you cook.
Gon was simply banned because Mishima mains were seen running out of the venues crying when they were told Electrics were now useless
Coolio
Funny you say that when Mishimas second most spammed move: hellsweep, especially Heihachi's, was the second best counter against Gon😂
@@JAXI0N What the fuck are you doing in my replies, get back to the Fountain
Heihachis god fist was mid, as @@ametozukumazu6073 said he had vr good tools to deal with him.
@@ametozukumazu6073what's the first best?
Gon is that terrible awful situation were your going to class to take an exam and suddenly out of nowhere that final thing your teacher told you about might be on the test was actually the whole test to begin with.
Good memories of highschool where our teacher said "Don't worry, Cos Sin and Tan wont be on the calculus test thats next years thing" before the test having 10 questions requiring that knowledge.
I was told once that "if it's on the internet, it will *always* be on the internet" but what I find is that entropy and the internet dark forest theory creates a reality where old stuff is becoming *exponentially* more difficult to find with every year that passes Pretty sobering to think about If a guy through a dead forum complains about Gon, but no one is there to read his post, did he complain at all?
yes he did complain
@@guccipotato9466but if we have no proof, we’ve no choice but to *assume* it may never have happened. that’s the conundrum!
Schrodinger’s Gon says Gon was both legal and banned until we have a confirmation
The "Chase Dat Gold LARP Rap" is gone as far as I can tell and it's a huge loss
@@tappydani9378 I never got why people even question this. Humans are not the center of the universe if something happens, and no one saw it doesn't mean it suddenly didn't happen.
OH HELL YEA
is that the legendary King god CONEY himself?!
we love tekken
yow you one of the super smash bro's ultimate guy's part of panda
When can we expect the video?
Hi coney
The AsumSaus thumbnail joke at 15:51 got me good
Gon Final Destination No Items
aMSa: The Only Gon (who could do it)
the balatro Nope! at 1:38 made me flinch in anger.
As a fellow Balatro enjoyer, I feel your pain.
Ditto
Heihachi should consider pivoting to high card instead of using that three of a kind punch combo
it's called The Wheel 'cuz it's the Wheel of Samsara and boy am I suffering
dipped in doctor Bs chili oil
7:45 Anyone that is a fan of Maximilian knows about Biofreaks, also I was today years old when I learned about a slur that's been around since the Korean War. Thanks I guess Leon.
The chinder chagger ninja dagger
yeah that feels like something I/someone would absolutely walk into on accident, much like that game I guess lmfao.
I remember the game from sbfp and how they challenged Max to beat it.
In a sense, I guess they were banned from T3 for the same reason chess tournaments have dress codes. It's not that playing a grandmaster match wearing an ahegao hoddie is unfair or cheating, it's that it's not in the spirit of the game. What that "spirit of the game" is is what's open to interpretation and has some people foaming at the mouth over the mere existence of Happy Chaos, while others simply accept it. Where that line gets drawn is always going to be somewhat arbitrary, and is going to change over time.
No shirt No shoes No Gon
@@TheCrewExpendablewhy should I have to wear a shirt and shoes just to earn the right to play as Gon?
@@Gloomdrake This is a classy establishment. Next you're going to tell me you don't hold the arcade stick with pinkies out!
thankfully we allreaydy know the smell of the game
If my clothes aren't in the "spirit of the game", then it must be a fashion game. No, it's Chess. Watch guys in sweats win world series of poker. Similar to Chess, elitist say stuff like you said, not the people who like to have fun
Your editing and animation is so damn clean, those 20 minutes felt like 5 at most. I don't know the first damn thing about fighting games but your videos are so captivating even someone who'd lose to Gon like me can enjoy them.
You have no idea how many Tekken characters who fit the bill of 'They're not winning, you're just losing' applies to. Hwoarang is one of the the worst characters in T8...if you lab him for 30 hours...
This is true, perhaps I should have elaborated. If you look at characters like Hwoarang, or Ling, they do have VERY high knowledge walls to overcome, but after that point there's still a mind game within their kit. I also don't necessarily find the match ups fun, but there is a more elaborate game that the player imparts onto the character as much as the character imparts onto the player. Once the knowledge check of these characters fades away there's very little going on, which is the problem.
Other notes: * Gon is one of the few characters not added to Tekken Tag Tournament 2. There is no sign of a Tekken Tag Tournament 3.
I remember harada mentioning because of licensing he will most likely never return.
The animation quality on these vids are insane. Love your stuff!
Great video! I have fond memories of playing Dr. B back in the day. These two characters getting banned makes me think of the ban on wobbling. At the time, I thought it was a stupid decision. Nerfing a character that was almost a non-presence at major tournaments struck me as just whiny players being whiny. But at the end of the day, a game needs to be fun. I remember there was a lot of talk about Eddy & Christie's b14 in Tekken Tag 2. People defended it by saying that it was possible, with tons and tons of practice against that specific move, it could be overcome. Kind of. But did that make the characters fun to fight against? Or negate the fact that it took almost no effort to cheese b14 combos but tons of effort and concentration to counter them? Maybe not. It's a difficult one. There have been numerous online Keyforge tournaments that banned Heart of The Forest despite many other cards being more powerful, but people just straight up despise that card and the restrictions it forces on both gameplay and deck selection. It doesn't matter how much you can point fingers at people being whiny. If all those people stop playing and the game dies, is that the better outcome?
I think with wobbling, the problem was there was no room for outplay once you got caught in it. But at the higher level most people knew how to work around it. But even then, there’s the famous clip of mew2king getting caught in it at a small tourney, and he looks so absolutely sad lol
Gon but not forgotten ❤
18:47 Generally I agree with the shirt's mindset, but having a pushback on it so it doesn't get out of hand is good, too. The amount of times I've see someone say "git gud" as a catch-all shutdown of even valid criticism is obnoxious. Good vid.
The way you tell these stories is absolutely phenomenal. Honestly, i go back and re-watch so many of your videos just to see the funny animations and listen to these great stories told in such an interesting way. Taking the knowledge and making a fun story out of it, or a lesson, or something else always makes my day better when i listen and watch your content. Keep doin what your doin, its great!
Amazing video quality, holy shit the 3d modeling just for a video is crazy
0:48 IS THAT RAKUGA KIDS
Idk
Yes
I've heard that there's a pretty significant number of people still actively playing Tekken 3 in India. something that could've helped to get info on the competitive scene
Yeah he should have just reached out bro why didn't he do that thing you "heard" of?
@@Frostile Someone clearly doesn't know how researching works.
nobody plays gon here 😹 he's not officially banned anywhere but like with south korea and tekken 2 bruce, people don't play him as a silent agreement that broken characters are forbidden
The amount of animation in this video is INSANE! Amazingly clean and informative work, awesome stuff!
Wow; the editing on the KBD section! And I didn't know about the nitty gritties of the gameplay of these two. Thanks for sharing! Great video!
Every single video of yours I see I keep being further impressed by your amazing editing! Fantastic work!
Great video Leon! There is something about the design of older fighting games that I kind of miss. Things being less intended for the competitive scene, but said scene adapts anyway and the weird revelations that come along the way. the weird awkward characters that play fast and loose tend to be a lot of fun to explore and play.
I really love editing and production value on this video. Great job!
7:47 in their defense, i literally have never heard that slur in my life and would not have thought of it as one and that's in 2024
Yeah, that part completely baffled me; I couldn't even *begin* to decipher what group or ailment it could even be referring to. Then again, I guess you could argue that's the case for a lot of that kind of terminology.
Honestly, good on you both
i haven't caught a massey video in a long time, it's insane how much visual flair your videos have gotten over the past while. super engaging stuff
Awesome edit man, these 3D models and background animations are very cool.
The animations and 3D spaces are great. Awesome video!
This video was amazing, I absolutely love your editing!! More Tekken videos pleaseeeee
The 3d spaces you create, for the background and other things, are really cool 3:28 I like how Gon walks offscreen when the camera wasnt focusing on him anymore
This hit my algorithm and just want to comment to boost it and say this was an excellent video. Love the editing style!!!
welcome back to your channel Leon massive
7:48 gonna be honest here, I had no idea that was a slur (tbh this is the first time I've seen it in any context), and I can't figure out how it's supposed to be a slur, so I can definitely see how, if the devs had a vaguely similar-ish background to me (Midwest and/or 90% WASP populated town) they'd have no idea that they were being offensive.
It makes me happy to see one of these videos finally get some traction again. These last few haven’t done great, and it makes me sad to see an essayist of Leon’s caliber not get much attention
You're right, I'm not putting Chun li Figures into jars. Im putting Marissa figures into jars.
Man the production alone on this video got a like from me. Great little external animations, 3:30 I love the personality you gave him when the spotlight goes off and he wanders out of shot is just brilliant.
leon massey videos are always worth the wait
Man, I would've watched this video even if it was just game clips and site screenshots but the editing here made this such a nice experience, easily worth recommending and coming back too 😁
Cant believe you balatro wheel of fortune noped me within the first 2 minutes, I HAVE PTSD MAN YOU CANT JUST FLASH THAT
Amazing video dude, hope you're doing well. The production quality is awesome.
That little Balatro Wheel of Fortune "Nope!" hit SOMEONE right in the recent PTSD, I know it
Hey, Leon. Just wanted to say I’ve been watching your stuff ever since the Twelve video, and I’m super impressed by how much your craft has evolved. Keep it up.
Nice video! Very informative! I like how Dr. B is just a cardboard cutout and Gon is fully animated. I personally love joke characters because they stand out from everyone else. Why choose from a bunch of punchy dudes when I can pick the kangaro/dinosaur with boxing gloves, old man or bear? Joke characters are fun to play and funny to win with. Besides, if "being annoying" was justifiable reason to ban characters, half the roster of every game in existence would get banned.
Great video! Well written and cool editing. I have never actually seen that basement stage in Tekken 3 before! :o
I love Leon. I come here for the story, I leave with the knowledge of More Slurs seriously though, amazing video, Ive always been so fascinated with Gon and i even read the manga cos of how much I love this lil agumon guy and this is more than I ever couldve dreamed of Also, fucking fantastic editing as always the stair clip made me bust out laughing
I was a teenager when Tekken 3 was a thing, and it is what got me into the series and one of the games that made me actually devote effort to learning how fighting games worked. Thank you so much for this, I love this video, and how it makes me feel.
Your editing has become absolutely godlike!
Hell yeah, I've been loving Tekken 8 and it's been a long day at work. A Tekken video from you is like a miracle lol
i'm such a layton fan, I instantly recognised the song used. HUge W Leon. I love it when you add layton music to your vids
The presentation of this one was amazing!
2:50 I love watching a seemingly random video about a game I’ve never played only to find out it’s actually detractor style content, dood
I just wanted to say that I see the incredible editing haha, I see you. Great work as usual!
My favorite quote: "And bending down beside the glowing bars Murmur, a little sadly How Gon fled And paced upon the mountains overhead And hid his face Amid a crowd of stars."
This was a funny and good watch, thanks. Funny to see listen about a low tier character being banned simply because they play differently and have a subset of rules/knowledge within the game especially these days considering some of the seemingly broken things fighting game characters can do these days
This is the first video I´ve seen from you, and I just gotta say I LOVE your editing in this!
damn the direction of the video was great
Hi, this is that random 'Sparing' discord user from the video :d I'm one of if not the most long-lasting Tekken 3 online diehards and I have my own take on what a modern tier list with a dedicated player base would look like, it's in my profile description if you are curious Also one of the high level Indian tournaments was taken by a Gon player recently, it's in one of their still active archives But by no means do I take away from this video, the 'there was never a universal rule set' aspect is present to this day, it was interesting to see the topic tackled
I thought you'd mention the fact that Dr.B has an entire moveset of Heihachi, but only under some weird circumstances. It's called ''True Stance'' and there's like about 2 ways to get into it, but in true Dr.B fashion, it's very difficult to pull off, especially during a match.
The cardboard cutout is pretty funny on its own, but honestly you probably could've used the scientist from Half Life and nobody would bat an eye
1:39 BALATRO MENTIONED :D awesome video as always... ive been in the "dont really give a fuck about tekken" crowd my entire life but this still kept me engaged all throughout. keep up the good work!!
What a great 20 minute video that I definitely sat through all of. That one part, where you said the thing? Egad!
THE GLORIOUS EGG MAN IS BACK
wooah the editing is so cool
7:30 Legend Of Mana music? Good taste as always Leon
You put WAY too much effort into this video and it's animations and I love every second of it.
the editing is crazy good...
I blame Gon for why Tekken 3 got no re-release. The licensing is only the PS1 version and Sony forbidds publishers and developers modifying PS1 games to be sold as PlayStation Classics.
Great video man! I hope the people from the Classic Tekken Discord server ended up usefull to you in the research and in footage (maybe im wrong but from the gameplay footage maybe its from the matches you had in there with us?). Im the one that just luckly guess that you were working on a Tekken 3 video because of a joke LOL. ps: love the Gon 3D model
Every time I think I can't love you more, you do something like throw a balatro reference in
Love the kings field IV ost used
Yaaay more Leon! Always a pleasure 🙏
In short, Xiaoyu should be banned from ranked and tournament play.
banned characters spend ten years in the joint
Peak Leon Massey talking about Peak Tekken? Truly a great evening
"They're really annoying" is also the reason smash ultimate players use to want to get rid of half the roster
What?
You're so right, but honey this is a Tekken video
@@AllTheCoino i know dw
Smash ultimate's playerbase are the type of players to call footsies "camping" and treat anything other then going head first into your opponent "lame" With a playerbase like that, any character who's not a rush down is "annoying"
Feeling extremely validated after almost a decade of arguing for the competitive viability of Smash Bros. with people who have likely never known Street Fighter without the Capcom Pro Tour, and appear to assume the CPT emerged fully formed in 1991.
gon was unironically my favorite character in t3 and i wish he'd get brought back for t8
I think you snuck in a really good summary right at the end. The duality of the word "uncompetitive".
"you didn't even know [Bio F.R.E.A.K.S.] existed until just now" me, a SBFP Fan: "Don't cite the deep magic to me, Witch. I was there when it was written."
Yesterday was a great day to subscribe lol, I will forever expect daily uploads. Jokes aside thanks for the pleasant surprise
And yet another example of why you make my favorite FG videos. The research, the editing, and the jokes are just so fucking good, dude. It's also funny as a Soulcalibur fan seeing that Yoda was so clearly better implemented than Gon based on Soulcalibur's actual game design alone.
Hitboxes in soul calibur are much bigger and a characters range doesn't depend on their limbs
Eh, his comedy has moved on from going "lol virgin" self deprecation spliced into every 2 minute of a video, but it's not much to write home about ether tbh
Gods, your editing style? Closest to divinity our world will likely see. Your voiceover is well accompanying it as well.
BALATRO NOPE! NORTHERNLION IN BACKGROUND!!
HE’S BALD?!
Who wants to bet he’s a type A viewer for Balatro
@@arsonblu8333 I'm a Type C viewer bro. I'm built different
omfg hiw was that N64 fighting game at 0:48 called again? childhood memory unlocked oO
American here. Never heard of zipperhead. Had to look up what it meant. I think it's pretty safe to say the devs didn't know it was a slur.
Definitely. I've never heard it before, either.
We love a leon massey upload. Certified lunch video material
The editing in this video is so high quality
I would do unspeakable things to Harada if they gave us DLC Dr B in tekken 8 where he's got like bionic legs and arms or something
A 3D inversion of a "Puppet" fighter mixed with Pokemon's "God-Tier Stats, Incredibly Limiting Ability" (Archeops, Slaking, Regigigas) where the main Fighter-Proxy is incredibly busted but is balanced by having to manage the position of Dr. B, who is always on the field and if hit takes WAY more damage than the proxy-fighter
If the other fighter hits a position-swapping move on the proxy, Dr. B is in for a world of hurt lol. I'd love to see that new doctor
I remember using Gon to beat the beat-em-up mode for Tekken 3
this video is very funny to me because when I was a casual playing tekken 3 way way back when I was like, idk 5 years old, I do remember both of these characters being infuriating to deal with, and when they were selected I did have less fun with the game, so ya know, I can see the reason for the ban lmao also idk what move it is, but I just remember being chained stunned by dr. b's remote, and until I actually go back and play tekken 3, I'll never know what was even going on with that move, or if I'm just misremembering something entirely
The AsumSaus aMSa reference was brilliant!
Gons running animation always kills me. He puts so much effort into it.
amazing work
Fantastic. There's already only a few pretty smart reviewers online essentially being the cream of the crop such as Joseph Anderson or Matthew Matosis that, in spite their gaming history, will never in a million years cover fighting games, and especially without even a smidge of the visual effort you now put into your own work. No disrespect to most other game analysts out there, but you're a rarity amongst an already small pool of well spoken, well researched, and well informed people who make some truly finely crafted content. Word salad to hopefully get your attention aside, I love your stuff! I hope to reach a similarly great presentation for my own videos someday. Cheers!
Me and the rest of DSP-gang won't take this slander lying down. Unlike Dr.B
I know I say this every video, but I REALLY like your animations Leon. You've got like, a good idea of comic timing and composition, and the choice of framerate is *just* janky enough to make them stand out but not unwatchable.
I was just rewatching your vids LMAO
Thanks for the vid
Thanks for a well edited and enjoyable video, do you mind writing the music credits?