Dodge Demon 170 vs. Ferrari 812 GTS // V8 vs. V12 // American Muscle vs. Italian Supercar
Buckle up! Today the Pennzoil Proving Ground brings you the ultimate battle between two automotive titans: the 2023 Dodge Demon 170 and the 2023 Ferrari 812 GTS. In this high-octane video, witness the raw power and performance of these bone-stock beasts as they go head-to-head in a series of dig and roll races!
🚗 Dodge Demon 170 (2023):
Engine: 6.2L Supercharged HEMI V8
Horsepower: 797 hp
Torque: 707 lb-ft
Weight: 4,280 lbs
0-60 mph: 2.3 seconds
Quarter-Mile: 9.65 seconds
🇮🇹 Ferrari 812 GTS (2023):
Engine: 6.5L V12
Horsepower: 789 hp
Torque: 530 lb-ft
Weight: 3,594 lbs
0-60 mph: 2.8 seconds
Top Speed: 211 mph
🔥 The ultimate clash of American muscle and Italian elegance! The Dodge Demon boasts a massive supercharged HEMI V8 engine, delivering mind-blowing power and acceleration, while the Ferrari 812 GTS, with its naturally aspirated V12, offers a symphony of performance and style.
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Its a damn brick vs a bird
Literally 800 hp vs 1025 hp and both the same weight 😂
@@ericship8383I don’t think 3600 and 4200 are the same bro😂😂
@@ericship8383 like your momma 😂
@@sylvaind.6786nah 😂😂
@@Happofusagarii the hp makes up for the weight though.
Thank you! No unnecessary cuts, no artificial and frustrating suspense, just a straight-to-the-point drag race in the beginning of this short format video ❤ Hennessey exactly knows what car enthusiasts want to see, and delivers!
This!!!
Yes and look at those cars wow 😂😅
Yeah but that Demon 170 could have done better
My exact thoughts they got straight to the point
@@cjmoparthey definitely could have used the proper fuel needed to get the max hp and torque out of the demon and could have called for a rematch if the results were still the same, but no. Gotta make ferarri look better.
I love how Hennessy cuts straight to the damn chase. No run arounds, ads in ur face. Thanks for showing us this experience 💪🏽 keep up the great work
street brawler vs trained athlete
This is a perfect analogy!
Demons seem useless without prep...
Not really
@@Blas4ublasphemy go to johnny bohmer proving grounds and see a stock 2018 demon with a hellcat wheel/tire swap hit a top speed of 211...see how fast useless truly is. imagine the 170!!!
Unga bunga strength build vs crit dex build
The crazy thing is how badly the 812 gets beaten by the SF90 in CarWow's most recent drag race. That thing makes the 812 look slow!
Saw that race this morning. Got walked like nothing. The driver had the reaction time of a Sloth but it didn’t matter. Makes the SF90 and 296 GTB all that more impressive.
Isn't the sf90 a hybrid
@@JakeSmith-rg1sdyeah it is
@@80PercentAshamedOfUYeah it was still gonna loose badly but the driver made it look even worse😳, literally wasn’t even moving till he saw the other cars bumpers! 😒🤷🏽♂️
Its driver, not the car, the driver reaction time slow af
The 812 GTS said, "So long fat boy."
170 : read the discription kid
@@A_m_i_y_ahe’s making a joke damn bro chill.
@@thatcarguy2132 did i said anything wrong mate
lol
I don’t know of anybody who bought a Demon or a Demon 170 and races them on the street lol. It’s a one trick pony that you bring to the strip. That’s it.
What an amazing group of sounds coming from both of these cars.
Never line up against a car with "SuperFast" in its name and expect to win. Lol
1000hp is useless when it can't even put it down
Still got a crate
Absolutely true
It's a lighter v12 vs v8. There's power throughout the whole power band in the Ferrari. Let's not forget transmission and aero. Hp is the last thing here. Dodge did great considering the disadvantages
@@alwaysdriven “there’s power throughout the whole power band in the Ferrari” Have you seen the power/ torque curves in these cars?! The Ferrari is way more peaky and the Dodge is way flatter. “HP is the last thing here” Then why was that one of the first things you mentioned? 🤣
I wanna see 170 vs a stock gt500 in a 1/4
That Ferrari sounds and looks amazing
That V12 sound , glorious
Is it just me or does that Ferrari sound like it has a supercharger whine to it?
@@chrisrogers5974that’s the supercharger wine from the dodge 🤦🏻♂️
And now see what the 296 and SF90 does to this fast Ferrari... on carwow. Where would Dodge be?
the 170 would be a mile away behind
Imagine the turbo s vs thr 170, remember what happen in the 812 v svj v 911 turbo s race on carwow😂
Exactly! Came here to say that just saw the car wow video and how unbelievable that SF90 is 😮💨
@@chad_3894well the turbo a barley beat the svj and 812 and was last in the roll race
The foreign junk costs what over twice the price ??? Take the difference in price and put it onto the hemi engine. It will absolutely destroy any FORIEGN pos car in the 1/4 mile
Love that Demon 170 but 1000 ponies doesn't matter if you can't grip. Just sounds good on paper.
Look the discription it says 797hp on 170 which means its not in E85
@b_a_t_f_l_e_c_k even when the 170 isn't set up in E85 it still has slightly more power and mountains of torque more than that 812. Considering the 170 should be .5 of a second faster 0-60 on paper for 797hp mode, I doubt it would've made a difference having more power as it can't put down what it's already got. It's like a dog trying to sprint on a varnished wood floor.
If they prepped a surgace 50 percent of the way the rarri would be embarrassed thats the thing, they should simulate a drag race, as majority of demon owners get it to race for money or professionally but idiots will say this is wrong
Anyway to modify that for the demon?
@@Tenrai84 ofc, bigger wheels, better suspension, there are ways to put the best on paper results out there, u prep a surface and race the demon with just about every car thats beaten the demon on unprepped surfaces and the results would differ alot in the demons favor, bc who tf is getting a dodge demon just for the looks!??!( if you get it for looks u don’t give af after losing to a punk azz mcclaren or a gt500 with an extra 10k in mods the owner will swear is just “fbo”
That v12 sounds amazing. I can listen to it all day fr
The Ferrari shifts so crisp 🏁
I am not a big Dodge fan, but the supercharger on that demon is one of the best sounding things I’ve ever heard 😮💨😮💨😵
Compared to the V12 it's pure crap
I couldn't even hear the v12 that v8 supercharged was roaring all over it 😂
Dude just can’t drive
The Ford Mustang and Chevy Camaro had that same sound back in 2011, you dam Mopar fans are straight ignorant
@@sylvaind.6786 they both sound good why you hating
I loved how straight forward this video was! No BS, keep it up!!! 🙌🏼
Driver in Demon not setting lunch control
The shifts on Ferrari sounds amazing! This was a cool video man! Both vehicles are quick!!
Demon 170, Dodge capped it at 149MPH top so it's never catching that prancing horse.
It's not locked to 149 in drag mode. The tire rating being the main factor for this.
@@jaredglass2562 The beefed up driveshaft is also a factor. It's not rated for those speeds.
Did they even hit 149 mph to test the governer restricting the power power?
@@DemocratsRDemonsthen they obviously chose the wrong drive shaft. It's not beefed up enough to handle high speeds.
@@dj8010 They chose the driveshaft based on torque demands, not top speed. What's with the hair up your a**? Are you one of those Mustang owners who can't stand that no one cares about their boring car? The only people I find to have such a bugaboo about Dodge, are dime-a-dozen Mustang owners...
It is ridiculously hilarious how one dimensional the demon 170 is
it is barely worth 90k in my eyes
Get you some glasses 🤓
Yea it’s the most dull car honestly. Not sure why people freak out over it when you can literally give any challenger that amount of power for a fraction of the cost.
You’ll never be able to afford either one so you don’t have to worry about them
did i hurt your feelings?@@themarathoncontinues2289
Which fuel was in the Demon 170 - E85 or Gasoline? Did you use the trans brake and launch mode?
Was the Demon on e85? This feels like a “this is why you should bring your demon to us” advertisement 😂
Wondering the same thing. No mention if it’s running 900 or the full 1025hp 🤔
Only runs e85
@@freddypubg5156 no it’s flex fuel
Here come the excuses… you think more power would’ve made it hook up better 😂
you are exactly right. He looked like he was driving it in eco mode on a Sunday drive or not hardly even giving it any gas. I've driven this car on the street and it looks absolutely violent when you get on it. It hooks way better than my Hellcat even on an unprepped surface. I will post on my channel some pulls soon as its over 500 miles break in.
It's incredible how LOUD that wind sound is coming from the 170😳
The sound of thunder vs the speed of lightning
And the sound of lightning
Chad is approaching the start of the rolling start at 1700 RPM! LOL!
If the 812 does that imagine the 296 or sf90
That was fun. Kudos to whoever thought of that match up race.
Can’t wait for the zr1
Something went wrong. The Demon 170 goes to 60mph over 2x faster than the 812 gts. quarter mile time for the Challenger is 8.91 seconds with the 812 taking 10.4 seconds. Had the Demon 170 had ideal drag racing conditions and possibly perfect launches,, it would've smoked the hell out of the 812. Either way, im subscribing. Amazing job! You guys are true car enthusiasts!
Went wrong? You mean the dodge wasnt glued to the track?
@@massimohack1367 Not just that. Don't forget that horsepower from 1,025 to 900 if regular 91 octane premium fuel is used. Hosepower stays at 1,025 with E85 FFV gasoline.
@@user-zx1fr9ms7k if dodge had 1k hp it would only do worse
Run it on E85
@@Maverickbillion fr
Love it when the camera is next to ferrari ginormous V12 engine, going high speed with all the wind noise and yet STILL the loudest sound it the supercharger whine❤
These 2 sound amazing together 🔥
If I’m going to sell my go fast products, I’d make the stock car look slow too 😉 the camera should’ve been on the dash gauge showing if it’s running on full tilt 1025hp E85 time. It should have been gaining on top with that much power difference, regardless of of weight and aerodynamics
The Ferrari is lighter, better aero and a dual-clutch transmission. The 170 is deficient in those areas and even with slightly more power its going to struggle to keep up.
I'm not a Dodge guy by no means, actually I really don't like them at all. Yet, I do feel like the Dodge should have been reeling the 812 in after he got moving.
@@gumballer133it was 3:17
@@gumballer133 it was a little but it was too late and they make faster 812s the one in the video looks like base model
@SRTCasper I saw it was creeping, then the race was over. Too bad it wasn't a longer stretch. Don't get me wrong, I still want the 812 to win, but you need to give the Dodge the chance to redeem itself.
1:48 me behind some store in los santos at 12 learning about the strippers in gtaV 😂😂😂
The sound between both cars at the same time is amazing!!
The real world is not prepped.
At the drag strip it is genius. Thats what the car was built for.
lol, much anger
@@bryanpowell3724 it’s not angry to point out stupidity
you go girl!@@vipermuscle440
And by pointing out stupidity, you must be talking about the one trick pony car who can't even do its one trick. Roll races don't lie.
McMahon's "No chance in hell" theme music playing in the background.
"too fat to be cool"
@@Blas4ublasphemylike your momma 😂
My mother is a saint! How dare you!@@sylvaind.6786
😂
My suggestion for the next race having the prepped surface is to have Chad's sister drive! 🤣
In the last part, the Demon was gaining pace rapidly on the Ferrari.
It sure was. They just ran outta track. They also didn't specify if it was running pump gas or E-85.
Yk top end it won’t disappoint
On the rolls I mean damn the 812 keeps jumping you can hear it
12 cylinder track super car vs an 8 cylinder stock drag car is no match in my eyes, no matter the driver. The GTS is just an all out Top Gun!
Nothing like an Italian V12 screaming
812 GTS killed every single challenge
That Demon sounds sick! Love that supercharger whine! Gimme the V8 every time.
We can clearly hear that Stellantis Markup170 crying out loud when the 812 keeps pulling😂😂
You clearly have no idea how markups work
Did you not see the 170 was pulling hard in the roll race
Was the limiter removed from the Demon 170? They can't go over like 145 mph with it on
The sounds with headphones is insane.🥵
In a 50 mph race, if Dogde uses 3rd gear, he will easily pass Ferrari. The race must be done in manual mode, not in automatic mode. When the 2nd gear is included, it will burn tires and also fall back extra from the gear change. In the Carwow race, the 810 hp pump gasoline Dodge Demon destroys the lighter 650 Porsche 911turbo S. The 1015 horsepower demon 170 will destroy the Ferrari 812 in 3rd gear. Thanks for the nice video.
Bruh what the turbo s smokes the normal demon any given day and the turbo s being lighter doesn’t mean 💩 the turbo s has a worse power to weight than the demon and still smoked it watch it again 😂 the turbo s reels in the normal demon on a roll and the 170’s top speed is only 220 the 812 has done 236 mph alone so
And I’d sure hope a drag car with 1025 hp destroys an 800 hp gt car now compare the demon 170 to the sf90 and the sf90 destroys the demon 170
@@ericship8383the 812 may have a higher top speed but by the time it gets to 236mph the 170 would be long gone😂
@@ericship8383the sf90 is a half a million$ car nobody with common sense is gonna pay that
In the Carwow race, they did it in 4th gear....
The Demon 170 please put back on E85 and run the car again re race
For reals!
Damn, that was a nice comparison. I can't decide which sounds better.
I still like the Demon and the great sound of the big V8 very interesting show thank you very much from Sydney Australia 😊
Congratulations Dodge! The amount of Hype you have put out about this car is unprecedented! 😉👍🏼👍🏼
Look the discription
@@A_m_i_y_a And??
@@A_m_i_y_a Look at your spelling.
@@defiance772 a “e" problem, I don't care
@b_a_t_f_l_e_c_k Spelling is important my young one. You don't want to grow up stupid and retarded. Don't worry I will help you become the best that you can be.
spf90 vs demon 170 on a prepped drag strip!! e85/65 for the 170 though so it has its full 1025hp
How about give the demon a headstart as well ? 😂
Turns out these Demon 170's are all regulated with a governor now to cap out at 149 MPH so it doesn't matter
@@eliesaba7395 the 170 would demolish any sf90 on a prepped drag strip not sure what ur saying🤣🤣
The markup170 needs the stars and galaxies to be aligned for it to pull off it’s only trick, otherwise it’s just gonna spin and taking L 9x out of 10 passes.
Man, spf90?! I’m pretty sure you won’t get sunburned with just 50
They both sound so good
Holy hell, that 🧱 is actually gaining on that 812 in the second roll race... In the end the Challenger gives you nearly the performance of a one of the most savage V12s ever produced for ⅓ of the price.
I love how this drag race video is straight to the point. And I love that this drag race wasn't setup in bias of the demon 170. Showing that all that power doesn't matter if it can't get any grip.
Mine is just a question out of curiosity...Why don't you build a track double the length of the one used by all the super cars and super pick ups?? when you are at the level of 140 150mph you always have to brake sharply... logically the track is over. It would be nice to see over the limit and then brake because the track would allow it. Fantastic videos Congratulations Fantastic preparations always🔥🔥👏👏 best regards team H.
Great point
I think a hellcat jailbreak redeye faster than the demon 170 😂
I'm sure it is on the street.
I wouldn’t de surprised if a scat could get close to the 170 on the street and an rt in the rain. Definitely a gt awd in the snow and probably in the rain.
Look the discription
Nice video!!
I'd suggest going through the whole Hennessey lineup. One at a time. Best 2 out of 3, drag and roll
He was just scared to drive the 170 there’s no way that car lost
Well it’s 1025 hp vs 800 hp not to mention the demon 170 has a 4.3 lb/hp power to weight while the 812 has a 4.8 lb/hp power to weight the 170 has a significant power to weight advantage
Yeah it’s impossible
I literally seen demons hit 8.96 to 8.92 sec more than once and demon out launch a Tesla there is no way this car should have lost. Dude was scared to drive.the demon did no wheelies
@@Zeil_tha_dragonthe strip was unprepped that was 75% of the reason it lost and the 170 had a shitty driver
Demons physically cannot run close to their claimed times on a regular surface. They have to be on a prepped drag strip
The true definition of not enough real estate. Demon started walking toward the end.
Did it tho? or are you imagining things
@@cmele1989 I did
Dodge engineering meeting: Guy 1: "OK, we've got a car with terrible handling that can't put all it's power down. Any ideas?" Guy 2: "More power?" Guy 1: "Oh my God, that's genius!" Applause all around the room.
It’s a drag car meant to be on a prepped surface at a drag strip dummy
I seen a couple guys at the dragstrip. I don’t know how well they were prepped, but they were running right around 9.30
same bro but its alot more than just prepped. I asked the guy he told me he had to strip the all car adjust the camshafts injectors spark plugs air fuel ratio dyno retune crazy slicks a pulley in the back for balance also they screwed a nail in the brakes between the slicks for less tire spin and 10 tries he only got it one time other time he was averaging 12s😂 Its a bullshit car they exegrated also if you dyno test it actualy has 600 Wheell Horspower versus ferrari 812 gts claiming it has 880horspower you dyno test it Actualy has 880wheel horspower!! porsche does same ect. Its a bullshit car bro.
People who do not race really do not understand how bad traction matters. Even at 60 that demon can’t break loose. A prepped track which is what it is made for and you will even see a wheelie from so much power
Do this again on a friggin' Drag Strip
What a contest! ❤
There was no contest!
@@hollandguitars7620 better word maybe "matchup"?
Is the description of the video wrong, it says only 797 hp for the demon even tho it’s supposed to have 900 at the bare minimum without e85…
You mopar fans are forgetting that its not a prepped surface.
and that you can get 4 Demons for the price of 1 812 GTS
@@x...CrankyOldMan...xand that all 4 of them will lose against an 812 SF 😂
It wasn't prepped for the 812 SF either...
True , the car being underpowered made all the difference on that surface @@Euroburger
@@Euroburger you cant get traction having over 1000hp and a rwd car racing on street
Two different cars ones supposed to be a grand tourer the other is supposed to be a drag monster it’s impressive how the 812 kept up with the 170 despite not being made for straights and being naturally aspirated
Kept up?? What are you talking about? The Ferrari smoked that pos Dodge every pass😂
Did you watch a different video?? The Demon got smoked all the way! Pretty embarrassing for "the quickest ICE car from 0-60mph"
@@JoeStill-un9gpThat POS Dodge has still got a crate full of goodies and is still running 87 octane..
McLaren 720s would have walked on both 😂
Nothing factory is walking the demon 170 on the drag strip with an experienced driver. If your on the street you might aswell bring a regular hellcat out over the demon. @Smzxe
More power just got justified! 😂
Both are monsters. Good stuff.
What were the speeds on that last last race 🫣🫣🫣
Now imagine if the 812 had a 2000cc super charger instead of just air intakes and made 950 to 1200 HP
170 most unstreetable road car ever excuse after excuse
Maranello ❤️ the Italian state of art.
Lord listen to that V12 scream 😍
A GTS , more kg than the coupe, start badly , not the OFF mode , and stil won!!
I do not understand why 2WD exists. I'd rather have a 600hp 4WD car than a 1000 HP 2WD car. If you can't ever put the power down who cares? My 51k Tesla Model 3 Performance can beat a Demon 0-60, and it can beat it at everything if its drizzling rain outside, WTF is the point? Ive been saying make it AWD since the first Hellcat came out. Like they make the wimpy V6 AWD but not the V8s? why?
Some people like burnouts and drifting as part of the driving experience
@@_World_Champion_ My V8 F150 had 2WD, 4 auto, (4 wd when it felt it needed it) and always on 4WD (for snow and mud) that is the answer.
If you dont know - you don't know You probably want an electric over a gas too.
@@dcooke4933 I have both. Both my vehicles (F150 V8 supercharged, quiet exhaust don't WANT attention) and my Tesla can smoke your 2WD off the line, and likely to the quarter mile. Both of them 100% annihilate your 2wd if its drizzling or more outside. Also, both of them can be put into 2wd if I feel like it and do donuts. So can a good merc/bmw. What you don't seem to know, is a lot of AWD vehicles now have a 2wd setting, so your 2wd (I'm guessing a Dodge below Hellcat spec or Mustang and you put your money into an annoying exhaust rather than power) is simply inferior. Also, all I care about are the specs, so yes, in a few years I will likely only have electric (or hydrogen, who knows) because it's better. I don't care about the environment, I hate democrats, but I love acceleration and power in a vehicle and electric is better at that for less money. People who drive a car just to wake up their neighbors need a bat to the skull. I'm guessing you are that guy? Loud but slow.
People doing 0 to 60 in 3 seconds with the 170 I knew it'll never do 0 to 60 in 1.6 seconds just like the hellcat never did 0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds but hellcat fans would call it hate
IM PROUD TO BE MOPARR GUYY!!
I'd be ashamed after watching this...
First and greetings from Poland 😁 team mopar
Bruh the Dodge Challenger is like a level 10 boss. The fukin Ferrari is like the last level final boss !!!! 😂😂😂
I simply love those V12 Ferraris... EPIC
Bro that demon just spinning the wheels the hole time
Italian class vs American broken toy. Nothing beats Italian, Ferrari, Lamborghini and Maserati 🇮🇹❤
Dude! There are many faster cars than Italian cars...way faster!!! Do some research!
Don't worry he doesn't know this was a publicity stunt for Hennessey this car stock for stock can't run a 9second quarter mile @@gregklier3330
🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹grande Ferrari!..siamo i numeri uno
Not even concerned about the dodge, but I definitely appreciated seeing the 812 in action
The arrow and the brick! I thought the brick was made by NASA and going to launch into space doing that burnout!
What did you think would happen, it is almost insulting to put an American car up against a superior Italian supercar. You should have done top speed- Demon 149 miles, Ferrari 200+ miles.
American car will never compare to european masterpieces
There is no American car in this video.
@@deekay2 Well Dodge is an american car brand my g
@@ohmyisthatMidas Dodge is Italian
@@deekay2 " It has been an American company since it was founded 118 years ago. Although the parent company of Dodge is FCA (Fiat Chrysler Automobiles,) and Fiat is the primary owner, that does not mean Dodge automatically becomes an Italian corporation. "
@@ohmyisthatMidas The Italians can shut down Dodge any time they want. The Italians own them. They are Italian.
Is the Demon running on pump gas (91/93 octane,) or E-85??? Y'all didn't specify, but that makes a HUGE difference! As for how it'll do on a prepped surface, it should break the quarter in 9 seconds. All depends on the fuel, the tires, & the DA though.
And the craziest thing is that they wrote in the description that the demon goes 9.65sec 1/4 mile😂 😂😂
Didn't expect that result.
Me neither
I don’t see why demon numbers are dodge’s prepped surface not real life.
There's a crate somewhere
@@joshlamar1990 incorrect the demon gaps anywhere anytime lol
@@imperfekt_zen incorrect not everyone can get there hands on a demon try again.
This is like comparing apples to oranges! The v12 has more pistons and more power!
More power? It’s 800 hp and 599 pound feet of torque vs 1025 hp and 945 pound feet of torque the 812 was the underdog regardless of the price
And cylinders doesn’t even matter a mclaren 720s is faster than a Ferrari 812 while having a v8 because the v8 is twin turbos while the 812 is naturally aspirated
Uhhhh….what? The Semen has a lot more hp and tons more torque
Award of the most stupid comment 🏆
In the description it says that the car has 797 HP, so I think it was not on E85
yeah those were REdeye Specs, not Demon 170 specs. But he was defintely not giving it the full 1025hp or he would have been holing on with both hands for sure
What was your top speed in the race on both cars?
Slow a$$ boat😅
And yet was walking that Ferrari down
@@Flaboy725no it wasnt😭
@@fullautotwintec in the roll race yes it was
Italian Music vs American Noise
In the over head shot of the roll the D170 is still doing a rear wheel burnout as you see black tire marks still being left on the ground😮
I respect the thoughts but why didn't u guys switch the tires on the demon to more street then drag radial. Doesn't the new demon have "carbon fiber wheels" isn't that supposed to be lighter on unsprung weight transfer? Plus doesn't the demon supposedly have 1000 hp from the factory on E85 kinda disappointing 😅