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Just not the way you thought it would.
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dust2 coming back to map pool 100% have something to do with major in china... dust2 is so popular there.
lol nice conspiracy theory
@@O_79that's definitely why they did it. Standoff which is a clone of cs is HUGE in china. The game also has a clone called desert 2 which is a d2 clone. Otherwise no way Valve remove the map they litterally rebuilt from scratch.
We need Cache, Cobble and Train back
Train and cobble for sure
@@jamesdunleavy7339 and cache
I understand bringing back Dust 2 because of China, but they could remove Vertigo instead of Overpass
yeah would've preferred vertigo or anubis removed instead of overpass
@@sy17_ worthless opinion
I mean the Overpass situation is just like Cache, complete rework then completely unplayable, lots of tricks were removed, and the map is heavily ct-sided to the point where it's not even fun to play anymore. I'm not saying I want it to be removed, just that this has happened before and this is very understandable
Lol vertigo best map in pool rn. Mirage is and has always been dogshit, not sure why it's never removed. Most stale pro play in the scene.
Garbage sub 10k tier trash opinion Vertigo Anubis are amazing maps perhaps best cs maps ever second only to Cache Only camper scrubs and 20 fps players hate those maps
I was expecting as_oilrig, what a downer
I miss VIP mode so much! Been playing CS since the original beta and miss some of the older maps like oilrig and siege!
Left handed is awesome. You can go full CQB nerd and flip when clearing left or right angles for extra style points
Vertigo's verticality and multiple ways of taking sites is not bad at all. Mirage should be the one to go.
They removed the best map and added the worst map. And Inferno is still in there... wth
Why is Mirage still in the pool like, can we have some real change? See some train again, or even cobble-cache???
They only did this so the Chinese players will be happy
-vertigo +cache next and we are cooking
Was expecting new cache or train
why would you expect cache when the remake hasnt been finished yet
Mirage for dust 2 would have been better, but the overpass rework doesnt work so they might want to tweak it and bring it back after or with cobbles comeback
in the air kill feed is dope
While I do agree that Dust 2 isn't a complicated map that is gonna show new lineups or new strats most of the time, I do think that is literally why its a good map. Dust 2 is all about how perfectly you do the simple shit, how good your aim is at long, how you take peeks, all the fundamentals are seen clearly in Dust 2 due to the lack of the more complicated shit. Its all in the finer details of the fundamentals that CS really shines. I can trust players that say Dust 2 is boring to them, but if they say Dust 2 is a bad map: I honestly think they are bad.
Tbh dust2 is not even tactical map so if someone says its bad it doesn’t mean he’s bad when he wants to play normal cs and not aim map..there is a reason why always the most d2 played on low ranks… and also its even bad aim map because its so easy to shoot but for sure its a good death match map not competitive..
@@bcc1876 First of all, all maps in CS are tactical to a fault. The main difference is that Dust 2 is largely figured out tactically; and therefore less tactical than other less figured-out maps. Second of all, you misunderstood my point, saying the map is bad is different from saying you don't like the map. I agree that people can not enjoy Dust 2 and still be good, but I don't agree with people who think Dust 2 is a bad map objectively, because Dust 2 is unique in that it is THE map of fundamental counterstrike, it's unique because it's simple. That is why it is good objectively. Yes, it might be the map where it's easy to shoot, but that doesn't take anything away from aim duels, because both sides are playing on the same map. Instead what happens is that the aim gets snappier and snappier on Dust 2 because there are fewer offangles and different strats to uphold.
@@tinius9276 as i said before d2 is good map goat map u can say and also historical but is not map for 2024 competitive scene thats it if u are at a decent knowledge lvl u can understand that
I hate Dust 2 and the only way I intend to play it is by muting my team and playing it as a deathmatch.
an IDGAF mentality is what you need on dust.
cache? train? tuscan? cbble? season? just 5 better suggestions than dust2... come on valve -.-
I was hoping for a map pool change, but i certainly wouldn't have replaced overpass. I love that map. I'd rather have replaced inferno tbh. Inferno is a good map, but it's always kinda the same thing there. And i'd rather have cobble than dust but i understand that it's because of chinese players
We need Cache and Train back.
I didn't love Overpass but I didn't wanted it out of map pool either. It's currently one of the best map right now (at least in pro scene). What tf is Valve doing?
great music btw
0:58 why for those who didnt get a B or more in math in school? I don't know the loss bonuses for each round by heart. Was there any way before to see the money you would get next round? Could you mouseover the loss bonus? I did not know that... i am very happy for the update especially for new players who don't know the exact loss bonus. I mean, i have almost 2k hours and some kind of good money management compared to others on my elo and I know you get more money each loss, but I really don't know the exact numbers.
should have been cache
Cache when?
Valve needs to add more hostage maps. Give us back Assault, Agency, Militia, Insertion 2, ANYTHING!
WHEN ARE THEY ADDING NUKE TOWN TO THE POOL
Dust 2 is a permaban
caters to the people who don't 5 stack premier, when you go into games not knowing how ur teams gonna play having d2 on is a sigh of relief compared to other maps. even w/ d2 back mirage is still the most played. even w/ it being my perma ban it's still my most played map by far compared to others. people enjoy the comfortability playing theyve always known. they should do map swaps every 3 months imo
Why overpass and not vertigo
Why is s1mple even talking he quit lmaoo
Sad 😔 for overpass..
Love Dust2 Only map i play LMAO
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is Mongolz an unknown team??
No
Why not just make all maps available and then no one will debate anything?..
because having an 11 map pool would be fucking disgusting and terrible
@@heatedgamermoment why? Just let people choose what they want to play
3 sand maps same time -.-. Imo should have been -mirage and vertigo +dd2 and train
main issue with Overpass has to do with the bigger issue that all pros are crying about the economy not being being fixed or touched up a bit. As a T if your team is dead broke semi broke and can’t afford the proper utility or weapons you get smashed because no site is straight up rushable without losing having to bite a bullet or two etc…. So with the current money situation having a map where economy matters a ton due to map layout. Of course you can’t play it or it feel like a balanced map when the simply factor on every map (money) is slightly more important on Overpass. Not saying mess with the economy of the game but adding a map where it is just spawn based still is gonna have issues when teams are dead broke getting long spawns having to rush down a awp and m4s while trying to fend off utility having 2.4k in the bank.
if it would have been -vertigo +dust2 it would be fine imo. if you remove overpass atleast bring back train or cobbl, something that is similar in size and complexity. Dust2 is basicly deathmatch in premier below 20K. the change feels unbalanced
Nah vertigo best map. Mirage has the most stale play in the scene, should have been removed years ago.
@@kurtoberlander3581 Mirage is the most popular map in the game
@@kurtoberlander3581 then keep vertigo in prem for all the casuals. Its a shit ass rdm map in comp
Wut about de dust?
DE_THERA WHERE
It's a pity that we don't have Aztec map there 😢
Aztec in comp? God please no lol 🤣
Anyone happy about Dust 2 is a huge casual, no exceptions
-ancient -anubis +train +cobble -mirage +italy
Italy lmao
D2 is king. CS should never be without it.
bringing back d2 with 0 changes is so bad
Dust 2 and Mirage have the same issue. They are excellent maps, but they are horribly overplayed because average CS player can play only one of these two and would not recongnize Cache from Nuke.
F OVERPASS and F ANCIENT AND VERTIGO ON THE OTHER HAND DUST2 😍
dust 2 is for tourism profits. lets be honets out of a million who played CS 950 thousands of em are literally tourists. out of those 50 thousand only 10 thousand are above puggy level.
At the end of the day, Cs is a fps shooting game. People acting Overpass getting removed as if there was some tactical genius rounds every map. Dust can be a bit boring in terms of creativity but provides absolute delight for brawl matches. And if the pro teams are worried about it being puggy, they should focus on their aim more.
Overpass is a tactical map dude you have to do complicated shit in your defaults unlike d2 where you just smoke short or flash long and thats it :D
@@fakuhu178 Of course. But its not like we are seeing anything new every round that we have not seen already.
I wanted Tuscan so bad...
Opass is my favorite map, D2 is my least favorite map. Instant ban from me every time.
It's time for a new map for everyone to hate!
Valve might as well have introduced a "China numba wan" graffiti
Need a new announcer
Well Dust2 will make all the noobs who haven't bothered to learn lineups happy. Shit map, should be insta banned in higher rating games
cache cache cache cache cache!!!
would be more helpful to start a good anti cheat system...
I have seen many people say that they wanted Dust 2, Cache or Train and I am here facepalming: why tf would you want old maps instead of NEW ONES?? Have you guys seen Thera? Why not add this instead of garbage Dust 2? Why not... demanding from Valve's 'hard-working' employees new maps? We could make rotations of the map pool after the end of every Major. So a Major ends, now with some way decide which two or three maps to erase and add for the next Major. Easy as that. Valve could make official polls in their website and every player could vote.
valve has removed my home maps! cbble then overpass! common man! =)
Please no competitive matches on Dust 2 😕
all we need is anticheat
Fuck Dust2
Most boring map ever, older than the Bible and almost nobody reads that anymore either... It's for people who turn of their grey cells and only w+ shoot...
It would be really nice if we actually saw some new maps in this game instead of swapping in and out the same exact maps we've played for decades.
Vertigo is a joke
d2 is so incredibly boring, permaban with vertigo
Finally we got rid of Overpass. Now it's time to get rid of Inferno and Mirage. Vertigo is a great map. Stop crying and get good at it.
Love dd2 for ever best map💙
WOMP WOMP L TAKE DUST 2 BETTER
Blah blah blah CHEATING IS STILL RAMPANT
new permaban, worst map played in pro csgo barring scuffed original versions of maps like overpass and cobble
anubis is the worst map. garbage angles and people can just be on your ass from everywhere in secounds. nuke, vertigo is also trash but nuke is kind of a breath of fresh air from the rest of the maps because its so different and ofc its a classic. however if you remove maps you remove anubis or vertigo. dust2 is a classic but absolute cancer in pugs because of ruski t spawn campers and tryhards running down the clock every round so I dont mind it being there but it should be bannable, wich means you have to remove anubis or vertigo....
Typical dust 2 L
Mirage for me personally.
I'm a rather casual premier enjoyer (sitting at around 11-12k elo), and before map pool change there wasn't a single map I could confidently say I disliked. Now there's dust2 that I really dislike, and worst of all people like to pick it over other maps. This is disappointing.
What about the inferno change lmao
are u blind?
Dust 2 is the GOATED map ❤👌👌👌
They took out the wrong map ( -mirage ) and they added the wrong one. Just Valve-stuff.
Dust II is forever in my heart ❤️
first
Biggest problem with the game (other than rampant hacking) are 2 or 3 n00bs with AWPs on each team that make the game really boring. Getting maps that aren't good for AWPs (Inferno, Nuke or Overpass) was the only way to play at intermediate ranks. Now we have an AWP fest instead of one of those. Truely dissappointed in the decision and its turned me off the game for the first time since 2000.
get gud
Isn't Overpass supposed to be Awper's paradise?.. Even the casters once said if you can't AWP on overpass you shouldn't AWP anymore
@@frafmaud you can avoid the points that awpers camp on easily and utility makes it simple to neutralise. Dust2 is very hard in comparison as everyone has an AWP and you have 4 nades.
It is literally the worst mappool
Removing overpass was not it. Remove Anubis or Ancient first. Then Vertigo and Overpass were the 3rd and 4th worst maps
French lunatic😂
ancient and anubis are one of the more played maps in pro play and generally very well liked, people only want them removed because they dont want to learn new maps lol
@@hhhhhh-vi6sq no it’s because they suck. Add in cache/train/overpass
cache&train ??? bruhhh💀💀
Only Mirage is a bad map in the current map pool
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Left hand should have been in the game since release but took a year to add. Removing Overpass for Dust is a classic Valve move. Cs2 continues to be disappointing.
Lmao, you got left hand, shut up and stop whining already!
I hate Overpass and Dust2 is a classic. This Is an absolute win.
As aright handed shooter, I asked for this left handed hot swap for peeking purposes ages ago...as I knew they weren't going to actually add a real lean peek this was all I knew I would get. And it finally happened. So thanks, I guess. Prone, sprint , iron sight shouldering and lean peek are still needed despite the content demeanor of the mass fanatic playerbase ....the game still lacks as a tac shooter. When you can get shot through the walls these are just needed. Why stop at the best hit placement and wall banging in the industry? When you add this left hand hot swap with a real lean peek you have the best in industry ...seriously! @Valve : Give the pros somthing Fresh to learn, and stop living in the past. Thanks. ( Under fire? Drop to the ground.. oh ya you can't....so you just die.. 'it's just a game' 😮 oh boy ....'I better 'just go play the other tac shooters' as they say ... But I'd rather the best actually be the best..not sorry)
go play cod, cs is not for you. too much skill issue
D2 is a horrible map for high tier play and a worse map for everyone else. The meta before it was banned was awp crutch and it STILL is. D2 needs some real changes if it's gonna stay in the pool.
dust2 is the best