Electromagnet for Attracting Copper, Aluminum and Non-Ferrous Metals like GOLD!
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Exploration of a quixotic electromagnet for attracting Aluminum, Copper, and Non Ferrous Metals like GOLD!
If your high school science teacher ever told you aluminum or copper was non-magnetic this is a great project to prove'em wrong.
Can you refer me the book/author name.
www.sparkstarter.tech/library
@@sparkstarter Thank you. 🤝
@@sparkstarterThank you. 🤝
@@sparkstarter 8:52 improve by making a bowl shaped array Ill film some stuff i guess since there isn’t really much online
I'm now stuck in the future after performing magnet copper experiments during the 19th century.....Thanks a lot Mr. Tesla.
sorry to hear that... if you figure out a way to go back let me know.
Mr. Crowley can't catch a break. What have they done with his head?!
I have a weird feeling that I will eventualy re-discover the anti-gravity gadget/method. I can feel it...
Look up Eric Laithwaite: Circle of Magnetism and Magnetic River
@Mac's Trade Signals No Mac, gravity is the force/energy that pulls everything toward the center of the earth. Aerodynamics is just a method to lift off from the ground. Not really anti gravity if you're forcing it up. Basic physics.
@Mac's Trade Signals the moment of inertia has nothing to do with it. The object does not have to have any moment for gravity. It does not have to spin. The moon does not spin - it orbits. Yet it has gravity. That time slows down and space shrinks near mass is described by GR. You have only said time. Acceleration takes both.
Sir can we make copper coin to repell the needle away from it ? Is it possible
So awesome! I have that book too! I've always wanted to build this!
I want to try some variants with high frequency coils...
what would happen if you were to make like 18 of those and strung them together in delta wiring configuration, or star configuration, to create a rotating magnetic field with them?
Great demo
Seems the copper washers have something to do with it. Works on gold too which is where this might be useful separating it from dirt
@sparkstarter here is an experiment suggestion: vary the driving coil power input and see how it affects differently sized small pieces at various points along the copper slug surface. Use the string suspended arrangement and vary the suspension height relative to the vertically placed/located electromagnet-slug unit. What is the effect of the coil on that large piece of alum foil W/O the slugs compared to when the slugs are included? Use several different sizes of circular alum foil in the string suspension arrangement w and w/o the slugs. IMHO, the applied field of the coil makes the inner portion of the diamagnetic material [aluminum] more magnetic by inducing fields in the areas over the coil which improve the magnetic properties of the portion of aluminum that is over the slugs. The relative sizes of coil-slugs-diamagnetic material is the crux to finding the solution. A diamagnetic substance is one whose atoms have no permanent magnetic dipole moment. When an external magnetic field is applied to a diamagnetic substance such as bismuth or silver a weak magnetic dipole moment is induced in the direction opposite the applied field. More suggestions to follow. See my other comment below RSVP to let me know you saw this. All this is very important to advancing physics & other sciences.
Of course he has. And also he made Ed Leedskalnin s Tripod device. This device neutrilzes the metals and stones etc atoms or electrones.
Hi can u pls help with the list of products u have used in making this system.looks promising
Nice. From my own understanding, it's a form of dry electrolysis in the sense that both methods require molecule size resource gathering to be of useful application. I would think separation of aggregate in mining process could easily benefit from the use of this electromagnetic wave configuration. Liked and Subscribed.
I have been interested in something similar to be used to clean up brass casings from the ground. If there was enough force to pick them up, this would be a great solution vs trying to build a metal separator.
You should try constructing Edward Leedskalnin's PMH (Perpetual Motion Holder). It's basically an electromagnet that has been bent around in a circle such that the ends meet. Once a magnetic field is induced in it, even when the electricity is turned off the magnetic field remains within the metal ring. This can be proven via an led connected to the circuit.
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Very cool, thank you for sharing this
You bet
What good do the washers do to the function of this AC magnet. I suspect they are just eating energy from the AC circuit.
Holy cow! What a brilliant invention.
Thanks for the comment.
To bad I invented it first!
@@johnnyblade6088 good for you. Too bad you didn't patent it huh?
Why not fold up a larger piece of foil to test if the thickness improves attraction?
Incredible!!
Yes, vary the frequency and measure the force response. A spectrum is easier to use and understand. There should be specific resonances for each kind and shape of material. Electric and magnetic polarization studies of materials have been tried since earliest days, but have a new start because of low cost Arduino and control systems. The drone and stepper motor controllers can be adapted. Anything with inductance or conductivity also has characteristic decay times, so those can accept forces. Try varying the magnetic field for different alignments with the electric and magnetic fields you produce. For reading, look at "near field' methods, and for very small wavelengths "radiation" or "far field" methods. It is pretty messy, but if you concentrate on measuring the forces and movements, as you make specific changes to controls and fields, you can at least store the data and try to make sense of it. Share the data and keep improving algorithms that help you design better and better field mediated forces. The 3D acoustic levitation groups are slightly ahead right now. They can move things in 3D in precise planned "orbits" and pathways. They have not really got spin and orientation of the objects moved down. I think the electromagnetic levitation groups do that better. That is partly because magnetic fields have been used to move things for a long time. Just not by field alone. The phase controls for slow careful movements need to be precise. And you need to be able to measure small movement precisely to slowly improve the control algorithms. Interferometers are not too expensive, but those cheap camera microscopes work pretty well for getting started. The Raspberry Pi cameras can take up to a 1000 frames per second, but more and more cameras can do "regions of interest" (small areas) at faster frame rates. I have seen some that are supposed to do 200,000 frames per second. The reason for something like that is, if you use a 20 kHz pulse signal to send the force, then you need to be able to watch if you are matching the objects resonant frequencies. If you know how to use an SDR, they can digitize at 2.5 to 100 Megasamples per second, and do up to 2^22 points per FFT. You don't need that to get the spectrum of the movements as a function of the spectrum of the activating field - but it is nice to have an upside, when you don't know how far this can go. Measure,. measure, measure.. Share, collaborate, create visualizations of the data. Calculate the precise movements. Don't say "it moves". Say, it moves by 1.342 microns at 23.22 Hertz. Or share the FFTs (Fast Fourier Transforms) Copper and conductors are all diamagnetic. They can also have paramagnetic, ferroelectric and other responses to fields. But electrons move away from regions of high magnetic energy density. A magnetic gradient can push anything that has moving electrons. Free electrons. If you find some small metal rings and put them in resin, that might be a good proxy for the atomic things. In general if you use magnetic spheres, or conducting nanoparticles. We don't have a name for microparticles because people are proud of "nano". But micron sized dust is fine. I noticed that diamond dust is for sale at 60,000 grit. That is 0.5 micron. Here is a link to explain grit sizes. There are LOTS of conducting and magnetic particles. It is easier to lock into them, than to try to get all the way down to atoms and molecules in your first experiments. And staying at macro scale (centimeters and inches and millimeters) without measurements is going to be a LONG process.
I have to say, it is a good video. Thank you.
Is it possible to make it larger and with a stronger magnetic force using the ZVS circuit
what circuit board you use for Electromagnet for Attracting
very interesting finding thanks for sharing.
thanks for comment.
You can rotate a magnetic field very fast to attract conductive metals aswell
I like language of net force but I think what is happening there is that the aluminum conducts especially foil is able to be charged and then discharged when it gets out side of the field. For instance if you crumpled up the big foil it would still act like small one but just heavier.
@arkstarter @UCCr-PXBNN3RoPbEuVp2pTWA here is an experiment suggestion: vary the driving coil power input and see how it affects differently sized small pieces at various points along the copper slug surface. Use the string suspended arrangement and vary the suspension height relative to the vertically placed/located electromagnet-slug unit. What is the effect of the coil W/O the slugs on that large piece of alum foil? Use several different sizes of circular alum foil in the string suspension arrangement w and w/o the slugs. More suggestions to follow. See my other comment below RSVP to let me know you saw this. All this is very important to advancing physics & other sciences.
can you give me some dimensions such as the diameter and thickness of the copper discs?
Don't think the dimension matter so much as long as you follow the design concept. www.sparkstarter.tech/library
If you want to really have some fun use a second coil inside instead of a passive slug. Wrap the coil so the current flow is opposite of the outer coil but magnetic field is in the same direction. It will pull massive amounts of current and generate alot of heat fast. Be careful and good luck!
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Would this work for medical grade steel?
With special microchips, you can separate any metals from secondary raw materials.
Just seen this.. try winding the coil with thinner wire AND wire the coil using a Bifilar technique. This should work much better. Thanks.. ❤
I have some ideas for improvements just need the time to work on them... will share when ready.
Hey that's cool ... And I have question, can we repel small iron particulars like paper clip or needle from copper metal
hmm, not sure...
Usually for something like that you’d set up a regular magnet (or electromagnet) to pick out the ferrous metals and then use a non-ferrous metals magnet to sort the rest of the metals like copper and aluminium
would the magnet be stronger if you used washers instead of slugs? Your model seems quit different than Crow's. What was his laminated core made of?
Maybe I have some ideas to improve the core... I think Crow was just using typical tranformer Iron core.
@@sparkstarter the place to start would have been to build it exactly as in the book. Then try to improve on it. Not build it kind of like it was in the book. Since I don't have the book, I can't say if there's enough info to build it exactly as he did, but it's definitely not what you've built. The biggest deviation being the copper slugs instead of washers, and no laminated core! His depiction looks to be longer as well, and likely only partially filled with washers. After you've replicated, and tested his design, maybe then improvements can be made?
@@Quickened1 Critically important post! This video shows someone presenting an invention an then demonstrating the effect of something else which affiliation to what was presented is only marginal.
Okay … that’s pretty interesting as a type of deliberately “weak magnetism” I wish you had gone into measuring the “magnetic force”. I wonder if the attraction/repulsion due to size of material could be exploited to produce a significantly useful amount of work?
Can I use induction cooker for this process
John Bedini published a dvd and documents folder called the cejaka files about a man who had one of these that could pick up gold Krugerrand coins he made it with unique possibly hexagon shaped washers made of copper or brass
What you are doing is creating a shaded pole linear motor. The eddy currents will hold nonferrous stuff at the null point.A much easier way to separate the ferrous and nonferrous metals would be to use a series of regular ac electromagnet and have the mix pass over them at an angle. You get the metals sorted by ferrous closest to magnet, non metallic or high resistive in the middle, and nonferrous to the outside. Works great to sort scrap or mining gold from gravel.
I'd certainly agree that repulsion is more efficient for separating nonferrous metal than is attraction. However, I think the shaded pole analogy doesn't quite fit here. Shaded poles have just enough copper to shift phase of magnetic field through the shaded pole but not block field completely. At 60kHz, the copper washers are blocking almost all field through them rather than shifting phase.
How can I make metal plate attraction first, supply power to make plate repel
Inducing electromagnetic current through copper is Heat
Как называется книга (извините, я плохо понимаю английский)?
esse livro aonde consigo baixar ?
Edward Leedskalnin Perpetual Motion Holder Lifting Gold Electrostatically. He also made this. I think you can improve this or replicate it.
Will water interact with it in anyway, maybe mixed with salt or something.
With enough current
enough current yes, but not before it vaporizes in hydrogen and oxygen
and anything in general that does that static electric cling effect I presume? belly button lint?
No it's more of and eddy current phenomena.
Excuse me, I meant to ask : How was this book published TOMORROW?????
So is it the strength of an electromagnet that is drawing the non ferrous, meaning it is ever so slightly magnetic, and it just takes this much attractive force to draw it?
No, how it works is Electromagnet 1 creates eddy currents in the copper, effect is repulsion. Electromagnet field 2 is 180 degrees out of phase with eddy currents. So magnetic field from eddy currents are attracted to Electromagnet field 2. hope that helps.
@@sparkstarter so an out of phase, 2 phase electromagnet is what creates this attraction? A regular electromagnet has only one phase, that does not allow the attraction? Excuse my ignorance, an electro magnet is just a more powerful magnet because electricity is involved, correct? So in essence it requires two opposing magnetic fields to attract it?
Why not put a handful of turns where the copper washers are, & connect them in series with the main coil, the turns carrying current in the reverse direction from the main? This way you are not expending work inducing current in the washers, you can directly drive it.
Yeah I bought some washers... need to re-design the coil so I can use them. Might explore the idea of a direct drive inner coil.
after copper disk slugs did you put iron disks?
yeah going to try copper discs next...
It seems like the copper slugs eat the magnetism up... so its not that the foil gets attracted is that the net repulsion is from the outside in, since the inside is being filtered.
Thanks for the comment... never thought of it that way.
@@sparkstarter If you have the materials and will to discover the truth i got some stuff to test for you. kzhead.info/sun/bMekoLWPcKWaiJ8/bejne.html dielectric is where magic happens. There is also a propulsion for submarines; dont know if its being used or not, but if you place a magnet in the field of a condenser, it will produce 90 degree force on the fluid passing by... also lots of experiments with seeds exposed to 3k+volts over 3 nch or something... literally put in the condenser and the growth from these seeds was changed... it grew faster, stronger, more and some mutated in proto-genes or something where it turned out as a previously extinct plant etc. I would love to experiment with rotating condenser in a magnetic field and a rotating magnet and instead of coils as pickup, you place different condensers with different dielectric materials and read the potential differences or forces exerted. Also another thing to be tested is to make a fluid battery. Have condenser charge lots and lots of lets say oil as dielectric, than you store the oil in a box and lift it up and make the stream run between 2 plates. perhaps not verry efficient, but all you would have to do is collect the used oil and recharge it again so there is never any waste.
At first thought, different metals vibrate naturally at different frequencies, for example gold vibrates at 316 Hertz. Just wondering if the frequency of electricity could affect the strength of the magnetism?
What do you mean gold vibrates at 326 Hz? how would you measure that?
@@sparkstarter I just looked it up on google. The natural vibration of the element of gold. Molecular vibration?
@@josephm.davidson1901 don't see anything about 316 hz in the list of material properties? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold
if you can make a strong AC magnet, using a step down transformer, you can use a 30VA Torriodal transformer and wind a few turns of thick 1.5mm wire through it a few turns is all you need, and push this low voltage AC like 6Volts and high current like 4 to 5 amps, and direct the field against the rotating disc of your electric meter, it will influence the aluminium disc and either slow it down or speed it up, depending on the polarity of the electromagnetic field it emits, use this for education only. Inside an electric meter is a horse shoe magnet through which the disc is influenced, the idea is to induce an opposite field into this horse show magnet so that the disc starts spinning backwards, some meters have mechanism to stop them spinning back, but in the least you can stop it from spinning forward, or substantially reduce how fast it can spin in forward direction. In this experiment you can understand how meters work. So using just 30watts of electromagnetic power you can overcome Thousands of watts of actual power being metered. This will not function on new smart meters, for that you need hacking into data stream and feed low tariff.
Please, I would like a link to download the book of instructions for making metal magnets. I will be grateful to you
www.sparkstarter.tech/library
@@sparkstarter Thanks
How was this book published YESTERDAY?????
That's cool!!!
thanks
Without electricity can we make copper coin can repell the needle away from it by applying any magnetic compound is it possible
Don't think that is possible, need electricity for currents to flow in the copper.
How did you repel the aluminum?
The coil has AC current flowing through it at 60kHz
the aluminum foil can be rejected from the edge of the coil towards the center but the suspended copper is proof that it really works. can you give me some dimensions such as the thickness and diameter of the copper discs, the thickness and number of turns of the copper wire and the size of the cylinder white plastic you rolled on?plese reply.
I don't think the dimension matter too much as long as you follow the general design concept. I've got a link to the book that introduced me to this idea here: www.sparkstarter.tech/library
I find it impossible for gold not to be magnetic, have you tried sending an electric pulse through the gold and then using a magnet on the gold. ?
And can you repel lead, brass and copper as well?
Yes, any conductor should work.
Check out a video series called The primer fields... a bowl shape magnet can do really weird stuff
sir, where should we buy this book sir
I'm going to try to create a link on my website with documents to download. Thanks for your interest
I like it ❤
Good experiment Kindly tell me electro Magnetic field attract iron or rippel
Either depending on frequency and geometry. In general, low frequency will attract iron because iron is ferromagnetic. High frequency will repel iron (except in unusual geometries such as in this video) due to iron's electrical conductivity. And, of course, any frequency above DC will repel iron if iron is hot enough (above Curie temperature) where it is not ferromagnetic.
what the author wanted to download - laminated core? what is the core of? can the metal be laminated?
I think it was just the iron laminates you would use for any transformer design.
what about thicker stuff i figured that's what one been playing with 1/8 1/4 thick AL n copper A:}?
I thinks it's possible but gonna take a lot more power.
Imagine a cylindrical elevator with brass-plated steel caps at the head and base. Inside these caps are wiring and sensors. Would it be possible for an electromagnet to hold the weight of such an elevator if it were filled with, say, twenty people and if the shuttle was slotted inside of the magnet (as one cylinder inside another)? Would this be safe for passengers?
not sure... gonna need a picture of this thing to understand.
@@sparkstarter Hmm, that could take a while. Let me rephrase. Imagine a solid black cube with a hole bored through the middle. The elevator (made of steel but plated in brass) passes through the hole. The cube is a giant electromagnet. Does the magnetic force attract the steel through the brass plating? If so, would sufficient magnetic force be a danger to passengers?
@@somerandom7672 Not sure if you've ever scene this experiment... but with a strong enough magnetic field people could float around weightless... no danger to the people unless they had some magnetic/metal implants or something. We have only been able to build electromagnets capable of lifting frogs. kzhead.info/sun/ftCDo7qpmmKvqoU/bejne.html
sparkstarter Interesting, thanks.
@@sparkstarterbeen lifting up frogs for a living. Never seen any happier frog than when I lift em up. I can confirm what youre saying.
Check out Eric Laithwaite:Circle of Magnetism and Magnetic River ..He is the inventor of the linear induction motor and father of Maglev. He's a levitation wizard.
Hey can you experiment again I think your missing the center core that would change the outcome
yeah I'm going to try that in the future.
Please try attracted gold
How much the price of that book master
I have some pages from the book on my website: www.sparkstarter.tech/library
gold demo with water ..please
So the coil frequency changed? Why is that?
Great question I should do a video on this topic... the copper slugs create a field that cancels the field of the coil, lowering the inductance. Kinda of a interesting phenomena.
3:10. #PrimerFields. Abs the flip ring. I can do this with my solid state neodymium bowl shaped arrays
Sir would you please send me the link of this book
Sorry old school paper book only...
You can find it on the web in a PDF form, look it up!
Why don t you use laminated cores as the writer used? You know Larry wandrell used lile this configuration and his device attract both non ferrous objects and also stones.Can you try the laminated style? Thanks for sharing.
Didn't have ferrite cores couldn't find them in the right size... just used what I had. Not familiar with Larry Wandrell does he have a youtube channel?
Have you watched that channel? I hope you can make better one and share with everybody because Larry doesn t want to share like you.
Thanks for the comment. I'm not familiar with this Larry Wandrell channel can you share a link. This technology is 50 years old so no problem to share. I might do more with this if there is enough interest.
Edward Leedskalnin Perpetual Motion Holder Lifting Gold Electrostatically. This is the link
Wasn't Leedskalnin that coral castle guy?
How can I order that book Maybe PDF ???
I host most of the books content on my website if you want to check it out.
I will definitely Thank you kindly
I won't forget about your talent don't you worries ☺️
How much price of this book sir?
Not sure where to buy the book I'll put some excerpts on the website.
If this was strong enough you could mine aluminum cans ,gold rings and coins from the bottom of lakes and oceans.
I've often thought about if we had magnets that could find lost or hidden gold, how much that would start to drop the current value on gold.
can it be use to extract gold dust from the sand?
I had trouble with small pieces of metal... worth looking into.
@@sparkstarter try out rotating two similar pieces stacked at a distance, one clockwise and the other counterclockwise around their common axis, to form a twisted vortex flux in regard to em pressure and underpressure equations. You may want to offset one of the pieces a little and also 'orbit it' around the center point of the stationary piece, using a planetary gear of sort. The latter design also can be equipped with a permanent magnet to increase the flux densities/concentrate them in a hexapolar field and ionize the conductive particles as they're moving. Ideally, you want to offset the pieces in such a maner the local magnetism would alternate between penta and hexapolar system. It could end up being a mess unless you were to acoustically stabilize the non conductive material and suck out the maglevitating metals with a vacuum.
@@sparkstarter try out rotating two similar pieces stacked at a distance, one clockwise and the other counterclockwise around their common axis, to form a twisted vortex flux in regard to em pressure and underpressure equations. You may want to offset one of the pieces a little and also 'orbit it' around the center point of the stationary piece, using a planetary gear of sort. The latter design also can be equipped with a permanent magnet to increase the flux densities/concentrate them in a hexapolar field and ionize the conductive particles as they're moving. Ideally, you want to offset the pieces in such a maner the local magnetism would alternate between penta and hexapolar system. It could end up being a mess unless you were to acoustically stabilize the non conductive material and suck out the maglevitating metals with a vacuum.
Yes, MORE POWER, BACK TO THE FURUTE POWER
Hi... I didn't read all the comments but your test rig is missing the inner laminated core. It could even be more efficient if it was there.
Yes agree... I got some special Metglass I plan to use for inner core. Stay tuned.
Nice video thank you for the share and you got another subb
Awesome thank you!
Used in removing dents from aluminum.
is there tool for this or did you develop the technique?
@@sparkstarter The tools, two I think, were made by Maxwell Magneform for Boeing to fix small dents on airplane skins. Cheaper than dismantling inside to pound out dents. Pays for itself in reduced air drag (reduced fuel costs). However, the mechanism is a bit different. Your device will repel any large piece of aluminum or copper. Only pieces of similar size to copper disks are attracted. Next comment refers to your setup as a shaded pole linear motor. I'd think of you device more as pushing the aluminum or copper from back side. Magnetic field is expanding around perimeter of aluminum. There is little field close to copper disks. Thus when aluminum is close to disks, there is more field on back side of aluminum than on front side adjacent copper. Back field pushes aluminum towards copper where field is lower. The Maxwell Magneform machines instead use a time dependent function. Aluminum is repelled weakly for a relatively long time to build up current, the attracted hard for a very brief time.
however you did teach me something useful i can use my version to find GOLD :) so i left a like Thanks bruh
Be sure to use it up close, or it repels gold
@@unitedspacepirates9075 , Let's just say that, with that modification, you will find everything...steel, aluminum, copper, rocks...
INSTEAD OF ALUMINUM AND COPPER FOIL, SHOULD BE OFFERED TO THE MAGNET A COPPER OR ALUMINUM COIN SOMETHING HEAVIER AND THE ATTRACTION WILL BE STRONGER
Best
Does it attract gold?
sure can
With the advancement in modern day technology, WHY haven't we already created this and put it on the market!!!???!!!??? If I were an investor, I'd invest in this technology!
I'll build you one how much you want to invest? ;)
Because it doesnt work.. is just a gimmick..
You will get a Nobel prize if you do
Butt don't you need the copper pieces to be rings, and then have a laminated stack that is 90 degrees to the outside face?
It will work with copper disks, although I think it might work better with copper washers and High Frequency Ferrite core inserted.
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@@sparkstarter jeff moe gold magnet
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Спасибо! отличное работа!! Вот Кен четыре года назад сам спрашивал как сделать такой магнит,а когда сделал стал скрывать!!! kzhead.info/sun/YJ2eZ6h6sZamhJE/bejne.html хотя секрет открыт не им!
aluminum has metal in it. Unless it's 100% aluminum. What's your missing is aluminum metal. Nice test. Let's do a real test?
Hummmm … Aluminum is a (Metal) “Element” and the Aluminum that you interact with is so close to pure that there is essentially NO Ferrous “Metal” in it to be manipulated by regular forms of Magnetic Energy. Really, try to keep up.
simalar to my invent but he did not fully know the way of nature that why its overly complex and does not function correctly
Why don't they use that out UFO's
So what you're saying is the 4th Indiana Jones movie isn't as dumb as most people say it is?
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sir kindly tell me which material is non magnetic. means when placed it between magnets there is no attraction and induce
@@goharnawaz9972 What? Little confused by the question.
@@sparkstarter sir my mean that between two magnets which material place that have no effect by magnets
Instablaster
@@dukedominick7005 what is instablaster. kindly brief
Those aluminum and copper sheets are not pure, they may be contaminated with some steel during the recycling process. 🤣😂😁
This is just the Lenz effect, does prove anything wrong