Approaching The Scene 296: Pixel-shift vs Super Resolution, Z9 FW 5.0 + Tiny New Z Primes
(LINKS BELOW): Pixel-shift shooting is an interesting way to add extra resolution to still subjects, but can it compete with Lightroom Classic’s Super Resolution? The answer might surprise you. We’ll also chat quickly about what is cool in the Z9’s new firmware 5.0 and showcase a couple of promising new, tiny aftermarket Z-mount lenses.
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LINKED TABLE OF CONTENTS:
00:00 Intro to ATS 296
00:45 Reexamining Nikon pixel-shift shooting more critically
05:29 Why Adobe super-resolution is better
07:25 Using super-resolution in Lightroom Classic
11:20 Pixel-shift conclusions
13:36 Viltrox 20mm 2.8 FX AF (A tiny surprise)
15:04 TT Artisan’s 10mm 2.0 DX MF (Solid little guy)
16:38 Testing these two lenses’ image quality
26:18 Z9 FW 5.0 firmware quick hits
28:00 Still no narrow aperture live view zoomed in
29:45 How FW 5.0 affects my Z9 banks settings
This is another of Hudson's informative, easy-to-absorb-well-paced training videos. A FIVE STARS offering for Nikon Z users.
I was really hopping you would do this. Thank you!!!
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Very nice episode. I will try super resolution on my M9. You might have saved me a bundle!
Ankther excellent vlog and always a highlight
Great video Hudson thank you.
Thanks!
Hudson, thanks for the lens reviews. I am using the Viltrox 13 on my Z50 for low light and night sky. Would love another wide aperture option that goes wider for DX. And would be keen to have a lower cost wide prime(Viltrox 20mm) for ff when i buy back into that. Will be interested to hear your longer term impressions.
Some outstanding pics in the intro Hudson
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@@HudsonHenryPhoto You must have a bad arze computer for files of that size.
You didn't mention my favorite Z9 update which is the ability to cycle through AF area modes. It was on the Z8 already. I already had the video record button set to select AF areas using a press plus command dials, now I can just press the button the advance to the next AF area. You learn to count button pushes, for me it is four to get from spot focus to wide area large. One caveat is you have to have each of the areas you select for it to cycle through already selected as an option in the focus menu where you de-selected the ones you will never use. Now if we couldjust use a button to cycle from birds to animals and back.
I have zero use for that personally. It's a waste of a button with my hybrid handoff system. For action work I use wide area and hand off to AF-On plus 3D framewide with a hold of the lens function button. Fn 2 is recall shooting function hold to flip between dynamic small and wide area for odd cases where subject detection fails. Either hands off to 3D tracking with a press of the lens function button. I need nothing else for action and would not burn a precious button to cycle to anything else. In my landscape and astro banks it's afs pinpoint always. In my knockaround standard bank it's 3D always. Nope. No need for that.
Been using FW 5.0 for a couple of Weeks. I haven't found anything worthwhile in it. Well, the change to the Card Formatting, makes a bit of Sense. It does also appear to Lock the Camera up, requiring removal of the Battery to unlock it. Back to 4.1
Hmmm, about 15,000 frames without a lockup. I LOVE the new playback control customization options and improved birds in flight acquisition. To each thier own.
Very helpful video Hudson, specially regarding LRC super resolution! Thank you. And, BTW, do you have any experience using screen protectors on the LCD of your camera? Any experience you may share, positive or negative? Thank you!
I used them through the D810 or so. Kind of like phones though, the screens seem to have gotten more durable and I like the touch screen feel better without a protector. I put one on the Leica Q3 just because that camera is out on my side so much and likely to last in my kit a very long time. I just spent some time on Amazon looking for the one with the best reviews and got a tempered glass one that works well.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thank you for your comments, Hudson.
Great video, geeky stuff! ...totally off-topic, but Hudson, what are those blue/red colored rings in the top of your tripod legs for?
Do you mean my fluid head? Www.hudsonhenry.com/tripods
Interesting results. I haven't been impressed with the up sampling results from Topaz Gigapixel or Luminar AI upsample. I'd be interested to see a comparison of these with the LrC. Also, have you heard of DxOPureRaw? It makes my m43 photos noise free. Maybe makes all the sensor shift features unneeded.
I've done videos on it too, but lightroom classics new denoise is just as good. :)
@HudsonHenryPhoto thank you fornthe info. I don't have any Adobe software, so good to know that DxO is on par with LrC.
Interesting review of FW 5.0, but no mention of the ability to cycle AF mode which is a game changer for sports and wildlife.......
Not if you're using hybrid handoff in conjunction with rescall shooting functions hold. Cycle is slow and clunky as can be in comparison. I have zero use for it. It's a waste of a button. For action work I use wide area and hand off to AF-On plus 3D framewide with a hold of the lens function button. Fn 2 is recall shooting function hold to flip between dynamic small and wide area for odd cases where subject detection fails. Either hands off to framewide 3D tracking with a hold of the lens function button. I need nothing else for action and would not burn a button to waste time cycling trough to get them. In my landscape and astro banks it's afs pinpoint always. In my knockaround standard bank it's 3D always. Nope. No need for that.
Whats the tripod head on the brick wall?
That's my ultralight custom build. Www.hudsonhenry.com/tripods
Has anyone tested to process a pixel shift file in the latest DXO PureRaw 4 yet? Not so much for the denoise but for the enhancement of texture and detail and the outstanding optical adjustments by DXO. If that’s not possible how about converting the pixel shift file into a DNG and then open it in DXO? Is that possible?
You'll find lots of issues amplified when you try that. Also, Adobe's process is just better at this point. Not to dissuade you, but mark my words. ;-)
Can you take a pixel shift image and then run super-resolution on it? If so what does that look like? Going to try when I get home for sure.
That's a no. Only original raw files.
Maybe it's my monitor but the super version from LR looked quite a degree softer than the pixel shift. Easier ,yes but quality...not convinced. I'll stick to pixel shift when there's no wind.
Try watching in 4k. You have it exactly backwards. 🤣
VERY backwards
LOL I thought the same, but my monitor had defaulted back to HD !!
How about taking a pixel shift image and put it through the super resolution enhancement?
You can't
@@HudsonHenryPhotowhy not?
Because pixel shift images are incompatible with any of the advanced Enhance features Adobe offers (denoise and super resolution included). Straight raw files only. Even if that weren't the case there's an element of garbage in, garbage out. Super resolution will magnify poor image quality and pixel shift has a bit of inherent softness, artifacting and chromatic aberration when zoomed over 100%. Those traits magnified would get very ugly fast.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto interesting. Thanks for taking the time to explain. 👍
How does Super Resolution compare to Topaz Gigapixel?
Much better.
This is quite revelatory for many, I think. Super resolution (and even better, Topaz Gigapixel AI) keep improving every year, whereas the built-in pixel shift is a fixed proposition from the factory. These AI software-based solutions add new life to older, lower resolution cameras, and certainly provide enhanced capabilities to 24MP bodies, especially ones like the Zf that start with very clean files to begin with. As long as you get your focus and exposure nailed in camera, you can get fantastic results with this new post-processing software. (And no worries about artifacting if subjects in your frame are moving, either.) Almost mitigates the need for ever higher megapixel cameras.
Indeed. I disagree about topaz vs Adobe however. I'm not a fan of the topaz workflow or results. You might try them back to back on the same image. Adobe's result is just superior and the process much more streamlined. The resultant dng is also superior from an editabulity standspoint. A true raw demosaic process.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Interesting. Haven't done a side-by-each comparo. I've had good success with Gigapixel in the past, however. Must investigate...
Yeah, I was a big On1 resize Ai guy. It evolved from Genuine Fractals after all. It's still great, but it's tough to beat Adobe once they put a few dozen or more engineers on a project.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto No doubt about it, Adobe has the mega resources. What would make for an interesting experiment would be to shoot a night scene using both the Z8 (or 9) and the Zf, with ISO somewhere between 1250 and 1600 on both cameras. Then apply super resolution to the Zf files, equalize them to the native size of the Z8/9...and see how the results from both cameras compare. Meant to ask: Are you applying your developing edits before up-resing with Enhance, or after?
I had the same results being a super res user in Ps since it came out. Pixel shift has been impractical ,clunky, with inconsistant results.
I feel that AI based upscalers such as gigapixel AI and Adobe super resolution is not really being true to the art of photography. According to information theory, you can't add any information that is not originally there when the image was captured. So all it's doing is using its learning to fill in the gaps (so what it is doing is using other photographer's data from its learning to fill in your pixels). I would rather use pixel shift over those AI tools. But that's just my preference.
You'll get a far lower quality result. Were darkroom enlargers somehow not true to film photography? Whether a panorama, higher megapixel sensor, pixel shift or Super Resolution the only that matters to me is capturing and printing the highest possible image quality. Super resolution is the far better of choice between it and pixel shift in any objective test.