Porsche Reinvents The Brake Rotor - No Rust, Low Dust, No Fade!
Porsche Surface Coated Brakes (PSCB) are a brilliant new brake technology.
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Porsche Surface Coated Brakes have a thin layer of tungsten carbide on the outside of the rotor. This tungsten carbide layer means no rust, significantly less brake dust, and they don't have brake fade typical of cast-iron brake rotors. The tungsten carbide layer is applied using high velocity oxygen fuel spray, and provides a rotor that lasts about 30% longer than traditional iron rotors. Better performance comes at a price, but they're about 1/3 the cost of carbon ceramic rotors. These PSCB rotors come standard on the Porsche Cayenne Turbo and Cayenne Coupe Turbo. Check out the video to learn all about Porsche's world-first brakes!
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I'm an 11 on Mohs hardness scale after you pull out the whiteboard
You win best comment! 😂
@@EngineeringExplained of all time :D
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ahah thanks!
Hahahah. You da best
Thumbs up for "Engineers don't have feelings, so no feelings were hurt" XD
Yes! Mini Brent Spinner!
Thumbs up, realistic response to 32k brakes!
It reminds me of one of my favourite engineer jokes, An optomist sees a glass that is half full, a pessimist sees a glass that is half empty, an engineer sees a glass that has been overspecified by a factor of 2.
sound logic has no remorse but the uneducated nannies should feel bad but they have no shame unless it's their peers
Eisan= 0 feelings :)
Loved the "They didn't realize engineers don't have feelings" line. I once took a psych class titled "Introduction to Personality." The professor was getting frustrated because this particular class was very quiet and not really responsive. From the front of the class he said, "Come on! Let your personalities show!" I slowly raised my hand and glanced around nervously, but.. when he called on me I said, "We're engineers, sir. We're here to learn what personality is."
👑👑👑😂😂😂
Yes.
Underrated comment 😅
Engineers have a personality. The stable personality.
@rosomak8244 "He's right you know"
Now I know why people with Porsche never brake in traffic, it is too expensive.
Braking is not fuel efficient. I hate it, it contradicts my goal of getting somewhere fast
It's because they don't need to slow down for turns and you need to get out of the left lane.
@stijnvandamme76 EXACTLY 😂😂😂
The other way around....No they ride the brakes because they have too much power for civilian roads, and the aged owners get scared that the vehicle is moving too fast. These cars' potentials are wasted on most of the owners.
@@JL-gg7phwe don't buy cars to do what they can do, we buy cars to be happy knowing what they can do😊
“Engineers have no feelings, so no feelings were hurt.” Truest statement ever uttered!!!
As an engineer I can assure you there are plenty of bad engineers and scientists. Don't trust them all.
Tell that to the prima donnas at my work places lol
@humandxp nope. Empathy is the logical conclusion to a mental equation that replaces x=them with x=me
Not only that. You will be amazed at the responses you'll get returned. If you wanna get ripped a new one, go argue with an engineer! Aussie engineering school was honestly one of the most hilarious experiences of my life!
@@THEGAMINGHELP101 As an engineer, I totally agree
Jason: Uses hammer to measure length. Me: "Ahh, I see you went to the Jeremy Clarkson school of engineering"
If it can't be fixed with a hammer, it's too complicated for me to understand!
You nailed it right there. Ah no, sorry... I am being a bit of a tool.
Should've used a banana. A hammer's length is too ambiguous. /s
Clarkson actually has an (honorary) doctorate in engineering if you can believe it.
Meanwhile May is still organizing his tools
“That’s a level of baller I cannot comprehend” 💀💀
Hah, yeah, I liked that one too :D
“Engineers don’t have feelings” I've been telling people this for YEARS, "I'm not broken, I'm an Engineer."
GIGACHAD
@@stfu6397 'strue!
“Engineers don’t have feelings” They lost them in college getting their degree
Jokes on you, I ended up changing my major
Sex can wait, I want to be an engineer
@@dantheman1337 @Dan E Garner lol its harder than you think...trust me I just got done lol
yeah. getting the degree is one challenge, getting a job and retaining it is another. School is the easy part. Engineering as a professional is tough work. Many of my friends graduated with engineering degrees and ended up getting jobs as contractors and engineering technicians. Had to work their way up into engineering positions.
@@joeyphoshowey Still is a rude awakening with how much homework you have to do compared to high-school or other college paths... so I'm told.
"How do you wake up in the morning?" me: 4:17
This needs more likes
Ha ha
😂 😂
My guy that genuinely made me laugh. Thank you
Who are you even replying to? No one is even talking about anything mechanical here at all
When I worked at a Jaguar dealer, we had a customer that tracks his F-type, for fun not competitively. He changed his pads and rotors 3 times due to wearing them down on track in just a few years... they were carbon ceramic brakes, and surprisingly they're the same price as Porsche's! he basically paid for the car again, but this time just in brakes. I think it would be cheaper to take a hit on depreciation and just trade in the car for a new one than to replace carbon ceramic brakes
@420 Friendly they are more concerned with selling new cars than worrying about repair of used cars, they also would not be paying that price for the repair anyways.
Lol
@420 Friendly I wasn't in sales, reasons unknown to me, we check the cars for maintenance stuff after buying them, the used car dept pays for brakes/tires all the time.
@@stephensheppard3501 we do pay close to that actually, the mechanics still get paid the same amount, and our cost was only like 2k less than retail
Due to that, some owners swap the pads to steel and then reinstall the original pads when it is time to sell the vehicle.
This technology was used on bicycle rims for many years by a company called Rigida (renamed to Ryde). Their rims were called CSS (Cardbide SuperSonic - indicating the processes by which the tungsten carbide was applied to the aluminium rims. The wear rate was very low and the rims lasted much longer than normal aluminium rims. They did however suffer from brake squeal and somewhat inconsistent wet weather performance.
And nobody bought them because the performance and cost surpassed the need.
Great example and quite funny, Thank you for sharing.
Jason will develop the first white board brakes. They will cost $20.00 and outperform carbon ceramics.
Plus, you can color on them!
the *true* "WhiteBrakes"
@@EngineeringExplained too bad the color becomes white every time you brake
@@nicholaslau3194 ah finally... Now I understand what brake-fade actually is then!
@@EngineeringExplained I want to see a video explaining wether or not whiteboard brakes are possible and if they are possible how good would they be, yall agree?
"I'll put a white board anywhere" - Jason explaining aerodynamic mechanics while in a freefall during a parachute jump. 202X
Lets make it happen
That is one way to keep the presentation short.
Wait until he gets an onlyfans
@@SniperReady I've got $5 on it
I was thinking: maybe he should throw a white board on his Miata. Imagine how much it would improve it's performance.
Reaching 100.000km on my 2018 Porsche Cayenne S equipped with those PCBS brakes from factory and they still look like new (even with a lot of towing 2.2 tons). Disks look like new, brake pads are at approx 50%. I really like this technology
Lotus used Metal Matrix Composite (MMX) material for the brake disks on the 96' Elise. Mixing silica carbide into the aluminum gave the same hard surface. No wear, no dust, and excellent braking performance. The pad material attached itself to the rotor surface (a few micrometer thick), giving maximum adhesion friction, which you get if you have the same material on both surfaces. Material is constantly transferred between the disk and the pad back and forth during braking, resulting in the low wear of both pad and disk. The weight was as for aluminum, so very light compared to cast iron, reducing un-sprung mass. Aluminum conducts heat much better than cast iron and transfer the heat from the disk to the larger wheel mass and area. So temperature was about half of that for cast iron disks. Downsides were high production cost, and eventually metal fatigue issues from uneven thermal expansion of the different thickness of the boss and rotor when using such a hard and brittle material. Surface coating seems cheaper and better, except for the much higher mass of the brake disk with cast iron as base.
Came to the comments just looking for someone to mention Lotus MMC brakes. Thank you!
Those carbon ceramics cost more than my whole car to change.
32k could put you into a decent used Porsche too!
Same haha, more than my Crosstrek or my MX-5 new, or both of them combined at present value. 😳
Honey my brakes are squealing! Don't worry babe, just go down to the dealer and pick a new one out!
And not a crappy car either!
Brendan Yup, you can get a 2015 macan for 20k
“I’ll put a white board anywhere” : absolute madlad
put it on a shirt!
Your videos are amazing. Thank you so much for making them. I appreciate your work and the way you explain this stuff.
Love it! The last minute was greatly appreciated, you're the man
Imagine buying a 2nd hand Cayenne in 10 years for $32k and the dealer says the brakes need replacement... for another 32k lmao
nbd - slap on a set of iron rotors and you're good
NEVER EVER buy from the dealer... so much freat OEM parts all around, great quality, 10% of price
Ebay rotors for $150.... my wife aint tracking that lol
You say thanks and head to your indie who uses FCPEuro lol
Lmao
Imagine trying to replace the brakes in 7 years and the insurance company totals your car.
Yooo RIGHT
Will this cayenne be worth less than $40k in 7 years?
@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe at only 51% insurance companies can claim totalled meaning will it be worth more than 80k in 7 years
I had an '83 Olds Cutlass that I always left unlocked. When someone asked me why I said "if they break into it by smashing a window, then it'll be totaled".
Or imagine the devaluation rate on this vehicle after 5 years.
If someone called you an "engineer", that just means you've been too easy on us with the whiteboards recently! LOL
Those brakes cost more than all of the cars I've owned combined
Same haha! xD
Exactly. A good, reliable car doesnt have to cost much. Everything beyond "just doing its job" is pure luxury honestly. Blows my mind seeing teens and young adults spending all their earnings on a used Audi just to sell it 2-3 years later for next to nothing because they couldnt afford maintenance.
"70% of brake dust actually comes from the rotors" I never would've guess that, I always assumed it was just the pads! Also, the best part about those price breakdowns, it that in 20 years when the Cayenne Turbo is worth like $10000 on the used market, the brakes will still cost $11000 to replace with OEM parts
makes no sense that 70% would be from the rotors, the data showed was 1500x the wear on pads vs. rotors on thickness, the rotors are no where near 1500x the area of the pads
Porsche says that. But his own data says pads wear 1500x greater than rotors, and dust comes from pads. Anyone knows dust difference between organic and semi metallic pads is huge. Also Porsche owners rarely buy their cars, they rent them, so they don't care about resale or any wear beyond 36-48 months.
Yes, if the pads wear 1500x the speed of the rotor, that's 1500 good reasons to expect the brake dust to be mainly pad
@@truantray I think y'all misunderstood EE, that "1500x" metric is specifically about the tungsten carbide rotors and the pads designed for them. Typical rotors are cast iron and the pads eat away at them significantly faster. Metallic pads actually produce more dust because they remove more material from the rotors, which is a byproduct of the increased braking performance.
@@Balomis the 1500x was for iron rotors
Porsche Owners with Carbon-Ceramic Brakes: *Brake at a redlight* Also them: "I'm never gonna financially recover from this"
LMAO
Carbon ceramic rotors last about four times as long as iron rotors.
J S - J S and cost 13.7x more than iron rotors. Probably not required on a Cayenne 🤷♂️
@@JS-nt3cn 4x2k is still less than 30k. 2k for brakes still hurts. Porsche is not for regular customers.
I had a friend who owned a 928 back in the late 80s. He said "it's an amazing car to own for 6 months. He said that was about as long as you could afford to drive it before the maintenance costs would bankrupt you or you'd have to sell it so cheap that it would be a nearly total write-off. So nothing has really changed.
Brilliant - I love your character, demeanor and presentation, so professional in a concise and intelligible format (and of course interesting).
Thank you, I watched because I wanted to learn about the new brakes and you did a great job! keep up the good work!
"Engineers have no feelings, so no feelings were hurt." You need to put that on some merch and sell it, my man!
Yes want
I'd buy it!
"I'll put a white board anywhere" May god have mercy on your child's soul when you give them "the talk".
God with a capital "g" brother, don't disrespect the Lord, however slightly it might be.
OH OH oooohhh
Orileys
@Ivana Notyers I didn't capitalize because I didn't want to be blasphemous to His name on an internet joke.
@@ghshrksidhc5460 "God" as opposed to "god" means - "to whatever god you believe in, or if you don't believe in a god"
Weeks ago saw these on a Porsche and then looked different and special. Thanks for explaining.
Love your videos, so informative, entertaining and awesome, one of the very best channels on youtube. Keep up the great work. :)
"I'll put a whiteboard anywhere" sounds like a threat
No, it's a promise
"I'll put a whiteboard anywhere." - How Jason got a job in porn.
"I'll put a whiteboard anywhere" Needs to be on a shirt!
Yes!!
You just potentially came up with a million dollar idea 😂
i'd buy it
On a shirt with an integrated whiteboard, obviously!
A white shirt (so he's putting the whiteboard on his viewers)
Slide the wheel under the rocker for some added protection but looks plenty safe the way you have it if your not going under the car.Great videos, thanks!
Great video and I especially loved the explanation of how the coating was applied. Earned a subscriber. BTW - I follow a suggested practice of sliding the wheels underneath the axles as a backup in case the jack stands fail. Thank you and can't wait to watch the rest of your content!
I like seasoning my cast iron rotors makes them last longer and I have a non stick surface
Lmfao
"Why I season my brake rotors instead of my brake pads"
jhsevs why did I understand this reference 😂🤣
@@jwalker7567 😂
I like to grease my brakes
Cost is inversely proportional to dust.
Better use that regen in the Taycan or you're gonna pay
Give me brake dust, at least then I can see where my money is going.
No. Just look at ATE ceramic pads. Affordable and almost dust free.
The majority your videos are excellent, as are your presentation skills. You present your topics clearly and in a concise, methodical manner. Additionally, the use of diagrams (as utilised by yourself) would enable even the less technically minded of your audience in assisting them in understanding the points your trying to get across. A+ to you.
For that amount I think I'll just keep dragging my left foot outside the door to stop the car.
Yeah my boots only$200 and that's pretty high for boots but I bet I will still come out cheaper than the carbon ceramic whatchamacallits I can buy a lot of boots for 30 some odd thousand
Hahahaha. Its cheaper to replace worn out shoe.
Underrated comment 😂😂
When brakes cost more than the value of 90% of people's cars
Fixed* When brakes cost more than the value of 90% of said purchased car after 5 years of depreciation
@@Theart0fstyle I'm not sure what you think 90% of people drive, but it's a solid bet that it doesn't take 5 years of depreciation before they're worth less than $32k. I'd bet that about 60% of them are worth less than that by the time they've signed on the dotted line and driven off the dealer lot.
There’s a better world, but certainly it’s pretty expensive.
I could buy a new car or I can buy brakes.....
babybirdhome I think he was talking about the depreciated value of the Porsche’s these go on lol
"I'll put a white board anywhere" probably the best part of the video!
They look so damn good, that caliper is insane!!
Really cool way you record the video! Thank and keep it up!
Porsche has 4 pistons on one real wheel, my car has 4 pistons for the whole car 😂😂😂 I feel so broke right now
Lucky. My car only has two. Rears are drums =P
Are you driving a rotary?
@@ThePentosin It could have one of those skid brakes like homemade minibikes have that just rub the tire.
Mine has 4 on one real wheel too 🤷♂️
Prepare to feel even broker(?), cuz here's the actual piston count @ 5:12 that you must've missed first time around😳😳😳
Me deciding if I should splurge and get $150 "racing" brake pads Porsche- $32,000 take it or leave it
Not unless you’re racing... For street use the racing type are worse (like ceramic won’t work well until it’s hot, and bare metallic pads are really loud screeching and destroy rotors fast), so the best ones for regular street driving are the normal semi-metallic and maybe even some organic ones (but the organic ones are often worse). So unless you want poor breaking normally or screeching to the point your ears want to bleed then I wouldn’t suggest it.
What Jake said x 100.
i saw these in a car park on a porsche of course and i couldnt believe my eyes they are huge!
You are a very skilled engineer.I love to look at your video`s
So for carbon ceramic brakes, the replacement parts cost half of the price of a standard Porsche Cayenne, the car where the brake sits on. It is more cost effective to buy a brand new Cayenne and sell your old one than replacing the brakes.
This is literally the printer model of business. Implying that the car is somehow disposable
Saurabh Kulkarni That’s exactly what they are planning
any car in parts is stupidly expensive... a couple years ago I read an article in a car magazine that did the math on how much a complete car would cost in replacement parts. They used the most sold car in my country, Germany, the VW Golf: a well equipped VW Golf from the dealer, costs about 30,000€ the same Golf in OEM replacement parts (no labor) costs over 250,000€ now you know where the real money is made...
@@cedricfranzen8558 Seems interesting .... but it s a LOOOT OF MONEY (i was expecting like 100-150l). Anyway - did you find the article or something similar on the internet ?
Or just put on iron rotors, which is what most owners do at that point.
You need to sell a shirt with “Engineering Explained” written on a whiteboard
And an actual flexible whiteboard surface on the back
a wearable whiteboard
Hear hear
With engineers have no feelings written on it
And a pocket large enough for several colors of dry erase markers...
Jackstand set inside/underneath the jack lift arm. Brilliant!
Great video! Thanks for sharing new technologies on the channel!
*“That’s a level of baller I’m not sure I can comprehend”*
Yeah, that's his best quote of 2020 yet. 100% in agreement as well.
I think, “...Engineers have no feelings, so no feelings were hurt.” (10:40) is a good contender!
“That’s a level of baller I’m not sure I can comprehend” 😂
Exactly... I wouldn't spend $3,200 let alone $32k 😆 holy moly!!!
Great job on the video. I found it to be really informative and my favorite point was when you did the price comparison. I wasn't expecting that at all! Don't worry about the comments, there are haters everywhere on the internet. Thanks for the info!
I agreed with your placement of the jack and stands... can't win em all! 👍
Scratches at level 8, with deeper grooves at level 9 😂
But will it survive a lighter to the scree...... wait , wrong channel.
But will it survive the bend test?
Collaboration!
Well, no. The entire point of Tungsten Carbide is for them to not scratch at level 8.
@@Steamrick it's a JerryRigEverything reference.
That moment you have where you wonder if educating your audience on the technical marvel of automotive engineering is wasted on them because you have to film extra about how the f'n car is jacked up.
It would have overwhelmed the comments section otherwise, as happened on IG/FB haha. Cool brakes though, yeah!?
Lol facts! I've worked on vehicles for 24 years and not once ever had a mishap lifting a vehicle. School and experience teach you how to safely do it. The keyboard mechanics are fascinating creatures indeed. 🙄
For me it was good enough that he said I'm not going under the car. Then its safe. Yeah the car might fall on its brakes and ruin a bit of equipment. But if you're not under it you're safe.
@@Torchedini Fall on the brakes and ruin the concrete, 9 vs 6
I think engineers do have feelings after working with them for over 30 years!
Very nice with thorough backup evidence.
excellent video! I share your concerns about cost of the braking components.
"Barely measurable" Laughs in machinist
lol right? 1 thou is considered large 😂
john Bean Then I’m massive...sweet!
.0008mm is .00003 inches which it 1 three hundred thousandths of an inch, largely different that a thousandth of an inch
@@johnbean2596 especially when you work to plus or minus .0002
@@Mj-zc6sb real machinist doesnt work with inches
i loved the snark at the end about jacking safety
HAHAHAHAHAHA Jack safely
We often use HVOF applied carbide for guiding surfaces in high temperature (above 600°C) applications. The surface is so hard that only grinding can be used for machining it - and even that is not ideal.
“Let’s... brake it all down”... 🤣🤣🤣 thank you so much for existing and working hard at what you do!
"Engineers don't have feelings ... so no feelings were hurt." 😂 I love this! In fact, I actually need to start thinking and using this. Especially for some of the comments and DMs I receive.
yeah. maybe Jason could make a t-shirt... :-)
... And you probably can't change them yourself, because it would require dropping the engine and transmission and then extracting the rotors from the top of the strut mount through the exhaust manifold (which requires a special tool that only Porsche dealerships have). Join the Right to Repair movement and do the right thing.
😅 don't worry...I got it
freezeme360 *whooosh*
@freezeme360 "it's just a condom , slip it on " this is what ur mom said the night u were conceived
I guess some people here have never worked on a car. You made me laugh. As a mechanical engineer I have wanted to throttle the person that designed some of the junk on cars. I mean really, why is the fuel tank access port on top, where you have to drop the tank to get in it. I am pretty sure we have the ability to seal one placed on the side or bottom where it would take seconds to access. Or perhaps having to remove the exhuast system to replace an O2 sensor. Or remove the entire engine to replace an alternator, distributor, or AC compressor. The list goes on...
@@court2379 The access port for the fuel tank is on the top, so that you can access it regardless of how much fuel is in it. O2 Sensors mounted vertically can get too hot and if they are mounted from the bottom, condensation can collect inside of them, causing misreadings and failures.
Could you do a video explaining dynamic braking, covering electrical magnet principals.
I've seen other famous KZheadrs who've let their family members raise a truck on just a jack and then their nephew is sitting under the rear suspension, working on it. If that jack fails, his legs would be crushed and his whole life would change. But they're also cavalier about safety in other respects as well, such as not wearing eye protection while grinding or drilling, not wearing seatbelts while driving on the open road, etc. You did just fine suspending the car for a photo shoot, and until you pointed out the hidden jack stand under the floor jack, I hadn't noticed it and I still wasn't concerned. And since you don't have feelings, then a sarcastic response to the haters out there shouldn't affect them, either. But nope, you kept it all above board and showed who's the bigger person. Kudos!
My take away: diamonds are a 10 on hardness scale and I need diamond brake rotors.
Industrial diamond is fairly cheap don't know how to coat a brake disk in it though
@@burnerheinz cut the diamonds to be embedded into the rotor. Imagine flexing on people by saying your cars brakes has more diamonds then a rolly
Found the Dubai guy 😂
@@fleimlehner with a set of car brakes closing at 70000$ 😜😂
@@romanromero5099 For just one side.
Bruh you beat me in rock papers scissors. Gg mate
Yesss! 🙏
Great video very enjoyable explanation of the differences. Made me think of a Jay Leno garage where he mentions on a McLaren I believe they advised he not purchase the carbon ceramic. Mentioning as you did their initial or cold performance. Saying on the street they typically on that car at least have worse performance since they stay overall too cool.
always interesting, thanks Jason!
9:41 “...that’s a level of baller I’m not sure I can comprehend”.
No doubt, Porsche knows how to empty the pockets of it's customers.
I bet they couldn’t even if they tried
That's not what Porsche is about. If you like to circle jerk about we auto motive technology a Porsche is for you. You gotta pay play and a Porsche is the cheapest way to get super car tech
One of the few car companies that can get away with taking features away and charging you more for it.
When you buy any exotic car. Whether that’s Porsche or not. You don’t look at the price of the parts. You’ll be looking at other costs. Hell you’ll probably trade it in for a new one in a few years. You’ll be making enough to cover the cost of it in about a day or less.
They literally don't know what to do with themselves any more. Who NEEDS this?
LOVED your explanation, but HUGELY APPRECIATED your costing of replacements. I am about to buy a Cayenne E-hybrid, so at the beginning of your presentation I was thinking “I might just spec in those tungsten carbide coated discs”! No way now - not even if I’m pulling a caravan. I’ll just use the gears and the regen function with braking (which should save the brakes anyway!). Great work!
The advantage of ceramic coated rotors in a hybrid would be reduction in rusting of the lightly-used rotors. With any luck, they'll last as long as you keep the vehicle so the replacement cost would not be a concern.
This could be used in electric cars. Since they practically don’t brake at all using brakes, but instead use recuperation, the rotor becomes very worn due to rust. So then when you do need to slam on the brakes, you find that they don’t actually work.
I've been driving electric cars for 10 years and rusty rotors have not been a problem for me.
The Taycan Turbo has these coated brakes as standard.
Who drives their Prius at 200mph and then worries about brake rust and brake shudder? Electric cars are the same category as every other car - almost nobody drives them that hard.
@@shawn576 taycan, Audi GT, plaid...
I agree. I recently drove an EV owned by a relative who almost never touches the brake pedal (he uses strong regenerative braking and tries to drive "one pedal" almost entirely), and even though the car is driven daily the rotors were clearly rusty - I could feel the grinding when I used the brake pedal.
So, 30% longer wear life, 500% higher replacement cost. Sounds about right.
This is how Porsche makes their money. They KNOW Porsche buyers will have to have it for their car and will upgrade to it immediately when they release it.
You don’t own a Porsche just move yourself. You own it to enjoy yourself. And relieving someone from the burden that money can be. Is also enjoyment to some.
@@taekwondotime and the buyers will buy the car and never actually take full advantage of these brakes
$32,000 for brakes! The transmission would be getting a lot of wear and tear from me using it to slow the vehicle down.
Imagine the cost for transmission service...
Sheesh i wonder what the labor is like 🗿
And those prices are WITHOUT labor.... The running costs of these cars are just stupendous! No wonder they are so cheap used lol
Various sensors were included in the prices, this isn't the pice of the carbon/ceramic discs alone.
The people buying these cars are certainly not worried about the maintenance costs..
The lesson at the end was perfect !
They probably got this idea from carbide tipped saw blades. They used to be HSS, or ‘high speed steel’ but they were eventually upgraded to carbide tips as it’s a harder material, stays sharp for longer and cuts way better. It’s quite interesting how the same sort of thought was applied to brake pad, only instead of teeth it’s a whole coating.
"I'll put a white board anywhere" lmao 😂 Also, TEN piston calipers!? Had i been drinking coffee when I heard that, I would've spit it out. Love this channel!
"It has ten piston calipers" *Looks at my twin piston front and single piston rear calipers* Oh
they have been around for years...also aftermarket companies like Rotora and Endless make 12-piston calipers...overkill? definitely
Great video share. Think most will stick with there old setup for now. Sure some day the cost will come down like most things and these will be standard on most vehicles.
Bravo Porsche !!! You are in the making of greatness!! Sure to see Acura, Lexus and other manufacturers start looking into these type of rotors !!!
No Rust, Low Dust, No Fade, No Money left in your bank account! - Porsche
lol
Well if thats the extent of your bank account, you should probably not be buying a new porche regardless of the type of brakes on it.
I dont see the point bragging about money spend on your car if u can afford them. Go buy a cheap Car. Though i never see them complaining about Ferraris.
You gotta look out, man. Sometimes those cars will reach out and drag you under before they simultaneously explode all their jacks.
Appreciate the analysis, including the cost.
Great job as usual!
When the "track day" is a whole family event...
Hahaha, love it!
...And have you seen those races where everyone's pulling a trailer? Good times!
The moment when your brakes cost more than my car...
Even the iron brake do... So... Something to consider! 😂
Hell, those carbon firbre brakes cost more than my house did in 1977.
To my knowledge those calipers are $5k a piece. Don’t remember how much the rotors are, about 500-1k a rotor and fragile lol
Nothing like modern tech to blow your mind and wallet.
You are a genius, love your explanations. 👍
Well done and great rebuttal.
Hahaha, all talking about Porsche while wearing a McLaren cap, nice trolling 🤣
Haha, it's subtle. But the internet always notices! ;)
Scratches at level 6, with deeper grooves at level 7
JerryRigEverything is that you?
Teardown in the next video?
I want these for my Tesla Model 3P, during normal daily driving I rarely use the brakes so just the anti-rust feature would be awesome.
Jason is single handedly keeping Expo markers in business, LOL
Yes, but what about the dry marker dust? That stuff is deadly. 😯😉
"Super sonic speeds, above the speed of sound" made my day
This is why I love Porsche as my favorite automotive manufacturer 😎
I can attest to the track prowess of these in a 5500+ lb Taycan turbo with 2 passengers at Circuit of the Americas. Amazing.
You make a good point. I am going to install those rotors on a DACIA SANDERO.
Good news!
@@CU08 There's a new Dacia Sandero...
Still better than a Kwid xD
Anyway....
James May would be very proud of you 😂
Having watched your videos right from your first year over here, helped me with my automotive engineering big time. Looking your channel grow to this scale after my education is done makes me very happy. Best of luck for the future!