A Porsche you still can’t afford - AOC Porsche Design PD32M
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Porsche is usually known for their super-luxury cars that only millionaire KZheadrs can afford, but did you know that they also make monitors that only millionaire KZheadrs can afford? Plouffe is here to take a look if this AOC x Porsche Monitor is worth your money or if you should leave the cash in your dream car fund.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 The Porsche tax
0:19 Unboxing
3:22 Stand adjustments and Monitor IO
6:31 Sponsor - SecretLab
6:57 Boot-up sound, monitor settings, and RGB
9:40 Watching HDR footage
10:21 Gaming and speaker impressions
12:07 Pricing, competitors, and overall thoughts
13:42 Outro
Gotta appreciate how much work they put into that monitor instead of just slapping their logo and a $1000 premium on something average at best
Not so much effort for a giga corporation like Porche... It's the bare minimum
Weird seeing you here
@@lelouche9894 Porsche Design and Porsche is not the same company
@@hansmuller2767 yes they are "Following a corporate reorganization in 2007, Porsche Design Group is now owned by Porsche SE."
Tommy Hilfiger cough cough
LTT goes to the trouble of getting a fancy cable tester, but we never see anyone test the cables that comes with a product.
Maybe they haven't set up a proper testing procedure yet and want to publish those details on the labs website when it's up
@@sebastianjost No procedure needed, the tester does all those things automatically.
I feel like there would t be any benefit. You cant buy any of the cables that come with monitors and if you get a monitor with a crappy cable, just spend the $10 or so to get one if their recommended ones.
pretty sure they said they plan to. but Labs is still getting set up, so it's probably just not the priority right now.
@@David-vl8qi the benefit is knowing if the cable that came.woth the product is crappy or not
i can't pay the Porsche tax, but i appreciate that the Luxury brand is actually a Luxury product
And when oled drops in price like LG tvs...Oled will kill all options. This will be crap fast.
@@Djuntas Some people want more peak brightness though
@@Djuntas I'm just freaking about burn in for my use
They should actually sell the stand.
@@ItsNotAProblem QD-OLED seems to be killing it in that department as well. At least it looks like it's really easier to work on OLED's problems (Brightness and life span) than mini/microLED's (Price and latency).
As a German, I definitely appreciate your pronunciation of Porsche. It's spot on.
Is that the Correct pronunciation? If so I have been saying it wrong all my life up until this moment…
@@Agent-iq3sz Yes, the "e" is not silent
Absolut!
@@Agent-iq3sz Should I blow your mind even more? The é in coupé isn't silent either, it's pronounced analogous to touché ;-)
Exactly what I thought.
The RGB looks exactly like those cheap bluetooth speakers when they light up lmao
That's exactly what I was thinking when I saw this that it reminds me of those tacky cheap RGB bluetooth speakers that cluttered up the main isle of the Dollar Tree down the street from my house over Christmas.
Yeah absolutely that's what I felt as well! Why would they keep the lighting behind the mesh?! Ugh. Plus no diffusion 😑
@@FirestormX9 no diffusion over speakers is required to prevent from sounding like it's under a pillow, and for the top it probably still needs the airflow hahaha
Why miniled so thick though? I prefer thin oled in 2023.
@@someoneelse1550 in that case they need a total rework on the rgb implementation! What is this 1990's JDM tuner car look omg
I'm a simple man: I buy cars from car manufacturers and monitors from monitor manufacturers, and I never do the opposite 😂
What? No Sony car for you?
I'm an old man, and I remember when Mitsubishi made great cars and affordable screens.
Porsche does design too, they've done more than monitors. They don't build the monitor either, they just do the design. Figure it out.
@@lollol9236 dell car, LG car, Samsung car, Asus car AOC car, viewsonic car..
Ok you say that, but I at least want to see an Alienware car now, lol.
Porsche and Porsche Design are two separate companies. They are both owned by the same family and collaborate a lot but they are different companies.
i've been curious about that, not enough to google it though. thank you for that info
Yeah! If it were from Porsche main, the logo crest would've been there absolutely.
@@FirestormX9 The crest isn't really fit to put on luxury components (other than cars), too many colours. The PD logo is a lot cleaner.
@@tobiaskulvik6912 absolutely not, friend. The userbase we're talking about can find rgb implementations attractive. The object we're talking about has like 2% of all those colors. Plus the crest design itself is iconic and recognizable by the same userbase as well. The current design looks like some random cheap ass Chinese company made the logo. There is a limit to 'cleanness' and 'neatness' in logo designs. Minimalism shouldn't be limitless or practiced like a religion or essence and style is lost.
@@FirestormX9 Honestly, I got a Porsche and Porsche design clothing. I prefer the Porsche Design logo on my clothes over the crest. The crest is reserved for the cars and stuff directly linked to them.
10:01 I used to have tons of stutters in KZhead content too. But I have found that installing the AV1 and VP9 codecs from the Microsoft store fixed it 100% for me. Now I can play videos even in 8K60fps and it no longer drops frames.
would be nice to see cables tested in these unboxings since it's unlikeky to ever get on the ltt main channel. (even if it's just a mention of 'this is an 8k cable which passed our tests')
there is no guarantee that whatever they test will be also what you get. It's a random cheapest possible accessory
@@marcogenovesi8570 that's why it would be nice to have confirmation
@@leopichler confirmation of what, do you have a cable tester at home so you can check that what you got is the same as what they got? Sorry the only thing that makes sense is to assume the cable is barely within spec and to get a known good one.
@@marcogenovesi8570 ?? no ltt made loads of videos on cable testing and then just stopped - it would be cool if they would check cables for us to hold them to a standard since it is a review and unboxing
@@leopichler there is no guarantee that the cable they test is what you will receive so the test is misleading. The cables bundled with products are whatever is cheapest bought from random OEMs. They tested cables sold separately because those are always the same product and should not change
I appreciate the honesty I feel from the hosts and production. Thanks
Your pronouncation is pretty much like you speak it, I would say as a german. Beside of that porsche design is a different company founded by the grandson of the porsche founder as a product design company. They made a lot of stuff over the years, like watches i think also some laptops and a gaming chair aswell. Porsche Design also has clothing a lot of it in collaboration with puma.
A novel menu system, neat. I wish we saw creativity like that more often.
Why so thicc? Ugly monitor in 2023.
too bad he never showed using the included remote after grumbling about it using AA batteries.
I was having a really bad day today, and as soon as I put this video on I could feel the stress melt away. Thank you for saving my day
Obviously it's not worth it for the money, but you can't deny that they did their best to add features to try, if you get what I mean.
The fact that this is a flat panel, so usable for productivity as well as gaming, unlike the Neo G7, and has double the dimming zones as the Tempest, definitely puts it in a niche by itself, and is very tempting...
@2:30 that is indeed a Porsche logo. Well the Logo of pd (both Letters fused together) alias Porsche Design. They have designed knives, household items and watches as well If I recall correctly. Not much to do with the car company, still thoughtfully made!
Respect for a native English speaker that pronounced Porsche right 👌 It's rare
You mean, not totally butcher it, he doesn't really pronounce it "right", but as well as can be expected from an American.
+1 to Nicholas for pronouncing Porsche correctly!
German here: indeed perfect pronunciation
Didn’t even notice it. But. Yeah. Kudos.
Id say he said it wrong, its suposed to be pronunced Volkswagen 😂😂😂
The R though
No one cares
AAA is great, it is standard, easy to replace. If it is not rechargeable, it is your fault to not use rechargeable AAAs. Linus also said some alone the line in some videos.
Now there are even AAA batteries with USB-C ports in them. They don't hold as much charge, but you don't need those annoying chargers. They should also last way longer.
its funny u say this cuz the most recent LTT video is linus GETTING RID of batteries from anything possible
Started transitioning my household to rechargeable AA(A) batteries, at least for the remote controls. It feels like it’s gonna be worth it. So far it has made me notice power wasteful devices in the house. Those have now all be decommissioned. They were a few cheap LED lights that had draining batteries when they were “off”. Took a look at the circuitry, and it had a simple PCB with a bad wireless implementation that constantly drained power. Chewed through 3 rechargeable AAA batteries in day & I never used the wireless feature. So to the trash. Well, to the soldering iron to see if I can remove the wireless component, but it’s essentially the same thing.
@@davidyang9902 hhhhh, true. But I think Linus was not recommending it to anyone at the end of the video. And rechargeable coin batteries are far less common.
Forgot to see what is in the USB stick. I believe in a software for control RGB stuff from monitor.
This is definitely a status flex monitor, which makes me think Linus may steal it from the office.
Honestly out of all the luxury brand stuff you guys show on this channel this is the one that if I could afford i actually would 100% buy because I actually think it looks really cool and well built
This is for people who already have a 992 Turbo S, and a Cayenne Turbo GT, and the matching timepieces for each, and the Exclusive Manufaktur leather in each, with each in Pain to Sample....who also like to game or, have a nice PC that want a nice monitor to go along with their nice things 😅 (Not knocking any of that, I would love to be able to afford even just a 992 Carrera T with base Sport-Tex interior, not even a leather upgrade or any options lol)
t You can borrow that for your "Pain" to sample. 😉
I love that Short circuit background!!
the portrait in both directions means if you have 2 of them you can have both of the fat chins on the outside and the thin top bezels meeting each other in the middle. Which is kind of important.
Imho and also based on experience, I like equiments with separate power bricks more. Based on my experience with all my electronic equipment, the power supply always breaks first. Having them separate means I can easily replace the power supply. When my tablet monitor broke its power brick, I just rummaged in my drawer full of power bricks from old unused tech to find something with equal or higher amperage, and it's working again. Not so with my 16-channel mixer and 500W subwoofer, which had their PSU built-in. I had to remove all the audio wires, take them to a service centre, and waited a few days just for a power supply replacement. And since the 16-channel mixer is essential to my setup, I had to buy a new one and had the old one as a backup 🤷♀ It is so prevalent that I opted to convert some of my equipment with busted PSU with an external power brick.
We need a full review now! Many thanks in advance
So Alex calls everything "a beast" and Plouffe calls everything a "bad boy".
I'm glad Plouffe pronounced 'Porsche' correctly. A little part of me dies when I hear 'Porsh' 😂
Seit wann ist Porschiii die richtige Aussprache?
@@hansmuller2767 Jung, du nervst.
love the look on the monitor stand. Pretty clean
I always keep the boxes and packaging for my higher priced toys, just in case I plan to resell them in the future. People buying used hardware love having the original packaging and paperwork. I know I'd prefer the original box, etc, if buying used.
@@dieselbaby yeah man nothing worse than a guy lowballing you a bit because you are missing oem cables or the box lol.
I like that light action with the speakers and ajustable height. 16w is roughly pc ordinary speaker as you said. It won't leave pure black traces while scrolling text like OLED but 1600nits LCD multidimming zones, for 3100$ it's not that bad knowing is Porsche and they are not well known for monitors...8K. Some people buy a plasma and it dies after a year you know, LED no and even less LCD.
okay since it was talked about at the start, as a german i appreciate ur perfect pronunciation of Porsche, thx and much love
The stand is gorgeous though. I'm not sure if they ever released in the US, but Porsche Design appliances have been a thing since "forever" in Europe. So it's nothing new, it's just a design studio like any other.
I personally don't ever recall seeing any Porsche Design appliances here in the US, maybe it's because all the stuff they design is for 220/240V 50Hz, and not 110/220V 60Hz N. American standards, or the fact think if they release Porsche Design stuff here in the US, that it will look bad on the cars, as Ferrari, and Lamborghini tend to stick their logos on so many cheap tacky things here like bad smelling cologne, and crappy overprice TPU phone cases? 🤷♂
I had bought an external dvd drive from Porsche Design in 2010, was not that expensive but had nice styling (I live in the Netherlands).
Back in the 90ies there were whole swaths of mixers, water coockers, blenders,... All designed by Porsche Design.
Just picked up a Dell G3223Q 32" 4k 144Hz monitor for $997AUD. great upgrade and about the only thing on the dell site worth buying. For your average gamer punter and drafting engineer that doesn't care too much for colour accuracy. It appears the best deal going. Works great with my RX6900XT using Freesync Premium
Agreed on the power brick, I'm not mounting my PC monitors flush against a wall, so it won't kill me if they're a bit thicker. About the only plus side is if something power related fails you can likely replace it, even after warranty as long as they actually purchase extra stock for such occasions. Also some times the cable from the brick isn't long enough, so depending on multiple aspects of your desk situation it may dangle or have to sit on your desk. Also from an IT perspective, plenty of spare power cables like your PSU and old(/some new) monitors used laying around.
Especially because this is already a beefy monitor with the speakers and whatnot, so why not integrate the power supply?
Hey Plouffe. Actually there are some major issues with Samsung monitor coz it is using a VA panel and in many reviews people are saying they are seeing scan lines and other hardware issues with the monitor. Also that monitor is Curved so not for many people. This AOC monitor is really good. 32inch 4K mini-led 144hz and straight monitor. Absolutely loved it. BTW the back side is so clean and the stand is beautiful. Yeah a little bit price reduction is required.
Sad that the remote control wasn't mentioned in detail. I felt that porsche design took into account of convenience with the headphone hangers and the remote control besides the ludicrous price tag. Honestly it is really convenient to have that remote control without leaning over to adjust the monitor inputs
It is like paying a $1000 premium to AOC, the actual monitor maker for the Porsche brand value. But Porsche Design and Porsche AG are distinctly different companies, although under the same holding company. (like Yamaha and Yamaha Motor Inc.)
My AOC U32U1 is also porsche designed but sticks with the AOC logo. It's actually excellent value for money for a 10 bit, aRGB 32" 4K monitor, I don't feel like the (excellent) design and build quality cost me any extra.
@@dieselbaby £700. Only other competitors for my use are BENQ and the like which are much dimmer as well as uglier
This looks great too i want one. I remember the acer f-20 ferrari i used to own about 15 years ago great monitor.
With 2 portrait scrreen on each side i rather have the thick bottom bezel outward on each side so roataing both way is a big +
I feel like this is surely expensive but there are not really a lot of monitors with this feature set, and back when the asus pro art mini led display came out like 2 years ago, that thing cost like 4.5k, so this is at least a big step up from that era.
You saying properly Porsche during the video is sooooo good :D I love it! Not Posh, Porsh or any other naming scheme.
the AORUS FO48U 48" is on sale for 40% off on newegg. been eyeing that for a while now. would definitely get that over this.
I'll be honest I upvoted just because of the insert of the PS start up sound.....Just the best.
kudos for pronouncing porsche correctly! also kind of want to get this monitor now it’s a better deal than the apple studio display
I was waiting for someone to review this!! Glad it you guys
Bought an AOC 24G2U (24" 1080p IPS 1ms 144hz) and it only lasted 2 years before having problems with the pixels now showing properly, LUCKILY it had 3 year guarantee and I returned it back to the shop, currently waiting for a response of what will happen but AOC is dead for me. My older generic Philips monitor (IPS 1080p 60hz) is going strong for 10 years now LOL!
This is one of the coolest looking monitors I've seen, I dig it
Solid monitor, It's just way too expensive. I appreciate that some serious thought went behind pretty much everything. Credit where it's due I suppose
The pc mic can be used as a passthrough audio for a switch or something like that with a 3,5mm jack and use Windows to listen to that microphone so you can use your switch and continue in discord with your friends, all in the same workstation
Plouffe your pronunciation is spot on. Please keep it 👌🏻
very well built
These 1152 zone panels are sick but the tight bright mini led zones cause haloing so bad it makes my PG27UQ look like an OLED.
That can go with the Porsche harddrives and laptops they used to slap their logo on and charge you extra for
Porsche is the only luxury brand to deliver quality and good products for their customers regardless of what the product is. They really care about us and who they are. I used to be a huge porsche hater yet as time went on i changed my mind and admit as of now they are the best luxury car brand. Bently is much better but the price put them on a diff category. Porsche has a quality product for almost all budgets. And are reliable.
I saw this on Floatplane yesterday
Very interesting display they came up with, but how does it not have a built-in KVM? It has all the ins and outs for it, just need a button to switch.
I feel like that Tommy Hilfiger gaming keyboard and mouse set would pair nicely with this monitor ;) Seems you can tell which brand actually employs engineers.
I like to put my high end monitor vertical from time to time for designing posters, magazines. But not that often
BTW, the little "gear" he was playing with under the stand is a little light that projects the Porsche Design logo. I'm guessing he was opening and closing the shutter.
Looks pretty neat tbh, with the exception of the rgb
7:11 - You forget just how awesome the original PlayStation power on sound was.
11:22 made me think there is some crazy motion sensors on the side as well.
Nearly couldn't stop myself from commenting what the pd logo on the Porsche Design monitor was but Plouffe's pin mercifully dropped just in time. Oh wait there I go.
yes the sense pixel stuff is working good,,, in out of view range and audio ranges where most of the mods are these days..
If they made this to at least 165Hz and Displayport 2.0 with glossy finish, I might have been tempted. I have Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 and I would like to see this compared to it side-by-side. This is also an IPS display. Black contrast may suffer.
1:44 Once you fully "buy into" NiMH with a _good_ charger and _good_ batteries (eneloop), you want everything to have swappable batteries rather than internal... jussayin
Or save some money and get Ikea batteries. Which are the same as eneloops for way cheaper
Agreed, I wish every device with a battery was required by law to have them easily swappable by the end user, or at least a basic mechanic in the case of a car, or truck. Sealed non replaceable batteries really are one of the true environmental hazards of our time with how much e-waste they create.
This is the way. It beats a hard to service "rechargeable" that start losing charge after a few months of charging to 100%. Never mind if you don't want the device powered at all you can easily remove the battery for long term storage.
I have the KEF Porsche designed Bluetooth neck strap iem's. If I had paid the $400 MSRP I would be very disappointed. But for $150 the Porsche design studio does quite a job on making things.
Honestly I was expecting way less features, or way more money for it. It's 4k 32 inch, which is the absolute best balance imo as far as resolution, ppi and real estate is concerned (I strongly dislike ultrawides), 144hz are brilliant for anything other than uber sweaty competitive FPS, and the screen can display proper HDR. You do also get that fancy stand instead of just a porsche logo, and all that don't cost 2500+ euro that I was expecting. You could get the Odyssey NEO G7 for a bit less, but if you are on the market for a monitor of that calibre, you've already spent 1500 to 2500 euro for a GPU to drive it, it's not that exorbitant. Good job PD
Take a shot every time plouffe says bad boy
you do indeed pronounce the e at the end, of porsche. fun fact.. porsche design also makes other things. soundbars, watches, headphones... and there's apparently also a gaming chair (looks like all the other ones) for over 4000 CAD. lol I recall reading about a porche designed kitchen. that was quite weird. And on their site you can also buy porsche hoods (yes, engine hoods, for your porsche) with various designs. Also i agree. built in power bricks is easily my prefered way of doing it. Though my recent gaming monitor has a tiny tiny power brick.. which is nice. (about the size of a small macbook charger) This monitor design only seems to focus on the stand, though? the monitor itself is pretty standard. a slim bezel and the lip at the bottom. But the stand is unique, i guess? so not much point of buying this, if you're gonna mount it on an arm (which always looks best... - highly recommended!)
honestly, 1800€ for a monitor with a Porsche logo sounds pretty good in a vacuum. i expected AT LEAST 4000€
i got myself some Porsche Design sunglasses with prescription glasses in them, best thing i ever bought. well worth the 450€
While I don't have the money to get it, I love that this is not a bunch of cheap plastics and cleaner overall in all ways, You have something that looks professional but can be used for entertainment, and yeah If you have the money why buy the plastic ones when it's in your face all the time. Aesthetics is why you pay more, probably will last longer than the Samsung the way they have been lately, and definitely longer than the Chinese budget brands. It's the Porsche when you could get a Vette that is better in some ways for less, but look closer and you see your value in extra work and I think neither would give someone buyers remorse.
yes plouffe it ise porsche with the short e at the end you're right.
The PD tax lol - that RBG looks sweet though, I would have loved to seen in up against a wall in the dark
I think separate power brick is just fine, you can attach it underneath the desk and not have it on the floor. I don't see a problem there 🤷
I titanium stand or aluminium with weights or carbon fiber with weights would be cool. Maybe again carbon for the display panels itself.
Man those bezels looks clean
The stand is *really* nice-looking
That PS1 sound is so nostalgic. Might have to make that my text tone now.
Any chance of a DSC study for DP 1.4 with 4k @ 120-240hz? Because I swear ~4K@240hz starts to get weird with how much it's compressing to hit that framerate
About 8-9 years back I was in Rome with my dad and we decided to walk into the Porsche store. I walked around a while, and being a high schooler, quickly realized the only thing I could justify (and even that's a HUGE stretch) was a 15 Euro pack of Porsche stickers! Kinda hilarious but analogous to what they've done here clearly lmao
Innocn has the same exact panel on amazon for$1k mine comes in Fri :D
I prefer the power brick because I've had internal power supplies in TVs fail and everything is made to be impossible to open and fix
AAA is better than in-built Lithium batteries. Helps in longevity. You can use rechargeable AAA if you want to. But if they used lithium batteries, they would seal it up and make it un-repairable and even if they gave easy access with screws, the battery would go out of circulation since it would most likely be a lipo pack with some non standard funky design or something. Pencil cells are the best. Use rechargeable if you want, Never have to beg the manufacturer for spares. Overall, win-win.
Unpopular opinion: You don't need any response time faster than 4 ms. Not going to notice a different, you want OLED perfect response for its motion reliability (because it's perfect in any colour, so no ghosting or smearing - ever regardless of the scene), but not really that extra clarity. Not that you can pixel peek motion anyway, and competitive player probably need less input lag than better motion clarity
I have a 49" 1440p 120hz Super-Ultrawide monitor from Agon and it was $1050 cheaper than the monitor in this video
That is the kind of monitor I always run as vertical, high refresh rate screens are the best for coding.
Dude, that looks exactly like the power brick for my Acer Predator Helios 500...
you were right the 1st time Porsch-uh. it is the Prsche Design logo. Duh. lol I own a Porsche, and Asus monitors work great for me. PD stuff is ridiculously expensive for no reason most of the time.
man i hope to find one of these used for a lot less monies or figure out where porsche is getting the panel barebones from and get one of those
I know Porsche is the star of the show here, but AOC really deserves some credit for their monitor game. While they have some crappy stuff like any company, they’ve got a metric shit load of monitor SKU’s ranging from very budget to super high end, and a lot of them are really good and pretty fairly priced. To me it seems like their monitors get overlooked a lot by tech-tube.
The 27'' monitor is actually reasonably priced at €500. 170hz IPS 1440p, basically the AOC AGON AG275QX, which retails for about 400. 100 Euros for the Porsche logo isn't quite as insane. Yes it is just a logo but in grand scheme of things not terribly insulting. Actually looks like the bezals on the Porsche one are even thinner.
13:35 Luckily aLTX is coming so a lot of people can get a chance to play on it.
I stick with it cos of the upcoming crabrave... even if only for 2 ultra-brief seconds
Surprisingly interesting product review.
It would be great if you reviewed their more affordable 27inch because they look much better in the way of value, albeit still being a bit expensive