Melting down your copper pennies - total process and cost involved - Is it worth it? Let's find out!

2020 ж. 24 Мам.
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Please see the warning at the beginning of this video! For educational purposes only. Is it worth it to melt down your copper pennies? Let's find out!
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  • After watching this video & doing the math , I'm realizing that this really makes cents !! 🤣👍

    @waylonmccrae3546@waylonmccrae35463 жыл бұрын
    • This needs more likes

      @darththunderstorm6331@darththunderstorm63313 жыл бұрын
    • It makes dollars...lol

      @sauljimmytakavic4286@sauljimmytakavic42862 жыл бұрын
    • Da da da da da da, ding!

      @jbennett3691@jbennett36912 жыл бұрын
    • Golden

      @calummcguire8773@calummcguire87732 жыл бұрын
    • You can bet your bottom dollar

      @robertkustos2931@robertkustos29312 жыл бұрын
  • Iv learned something today, don’t leave comments until viewing the entire video. Great video 👍

    @bronxbomber0079@bronxbomber0079 Жыл бұрын
  • There's far more economical ways of smelting and even getting a better yield than what is represented here and copper has doubled in price since this video so I think it's a great idea to save all your pre 82 pennies. I have been saving them for years now.

    @prophez23@prophez232 жыл бұрын
    • I have 3 big ammo cans full of them and probably 10 or more filled with quarters dimes and nickels

      @noname-dz7ed@noname-dz7ed2 жыл бұрын
    • Cant sell smelted copper anyway.

      @TB-sw1tf@TB-sw1tf2 жыл бұрын
    • Cooper is up to $4.73 per pound today 03/20/2022, Go figure!

      @edwardstevenlahaye3991@edwardstevenlahaye39912 жыл бұрын
    • @T B yes, you can. I live in mid Michigan, and there are 5 places within a 50-mile radius where I can sell smelted copper as #1 scrap copper for 4+ dollars per lb.

      @ModernGentleman@ModernGentleman2 жыл бұрын
    • @@TB-sw1tf well even at $4.73 per pound it only comes to $35.00. And adding in the cost of equipment, time, and gas, I don’t think it’s worth it.

      @edwardstevenlahaye3991@edwardstevenlahaye39912 жыл бұрын
  • Hey there Mr Scott Man, If you simply drill a hole in a penny, it then becomes a "washer" :) A washer that size, costs 12 Cents. That is a Much better return on energy, and labor. I had a situation, whereby I sent a guy to get some lag screws. The guy forgot to get washers :/ The hardware store (remember them ;) was 2 hours (round trip) away :/ Fortunately, I had 20-30 quarters in my truck. There is a deck in Eldorado, NM that has quarters as washers. Yours truly, James MacGyver Gill

    @MrJimgillnm@MrJimgillnm2 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks, that's a good idea for an emergency

      @Richard-zc1cj@Richard-zc1cj2 жыл бұрын
    • That's a great story.

      @TEXAS-SMITH@TEXAS-SMITH Жыл бұрын
    • The 3rd member on my mustang had a few foreign copper coins with holes drilled in them used as crush washers to seal in the differential fluid, was pretty cool to see. I heard about people way back in the day doing the same thing when building ships, I think they were using large cents from the 1800s.

      @rustybritches6747@rustybritches67472 ай бұрын
  • I bought 110,000 pre-1977 memorials at an auction two years ago for 70% of face value. I still have 90,000 left after removing the occasional wheat and Indian head pennies and turning some into the bank and selling some for 3 cents each. What I sold for me about $800, leaving me with a $25 profit and still 90,000 pennies. What's left is now worth about $2,355 in copper based on the 16 lbs. per $25 ratio used in the video. Not bad for a $775 investment. I think I'll stick with pennies. Of course, that's over 600 lbs of pennies that I don't move that often... lol.

    @SurvivalHunterNM@SurvivalHunterNM Жыл бұрын
    • Why would anyone sell you pennies for less then face value when they can take them to a bank and get 100% of the value? That doesn't make any sense

      @jacobjoseph3636@jacobjoseph36364 ай бұрын
    • ​@@jacobjoseph3636It was an estate auction. The auctioneer took the highest bidder... me. I guess no one else wanted to deal with the hassle of that many coins.

      @SurvivalHunterNM@SurvivalHunterNM4 ай бұрын
  • Costs = Materials, labor and overhead. Copper, gas, scrap, your time, depreciation of the smelter, clean up material, depreciation of the molds, electricity, and storage costs of the copper material.

    @GotoHere@GotoHere2 жыл бұрын
  • It’s absolutely worth it as long as you also make a KZhead video for “educational” purposes.

    @jamesrobinson3490@jamesrobinson3490 Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for the video and the sacrifices that it took to make it. It answered several of my questions and because of that, has earned my subscription & 👍. Thanks again

    @jayduffy7615@jayduffy76152 жыл бұрын
    • “According to Title 18, Chapter 17 of the U.S. Code, which sets out crimes related to coins and currency, anyone who “alters, defaces, mutilates, impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens” coins can face fines or prison time.

      @tahoma6889@tahoma6889 Жыл бұрын
  • The value of copper seems more stable in the long term (to me) than the unstable stock market. Like Silver it’s bound to continue its increase in value over the yrs. Enjoyed the demonstration - Thanks for sharing it! 👍

    @Rocknranchman@Rocknranchman2 жыл бұрын
    • Stable long term stocks are really hard to beat. 10% return, historically. Just deal with the ups and downs and don't sell until you have to

      @dtrainw@dtrainw Жыл бұрын
  • Copper is now 4.50 a pound or .28 cents a ounce. Meaning one penny is worth 3 cents. It’s getting to be more and more closer to worth scrapping them. If you had a bunch of them say $100 In pennies it could pay for the gas and materials. Would be about 300 in copper. Also remember to weigh out the 1982 pennies because some are not copper. The copper ones weigh 3.1, zinc ones weigh 2.5. Canadian pennies copper up until 1996. If the price goes up further it could get even better. But it’s possible it could be better to not spend the money melting them and just waiting for them to legalize it to sell them as is. Like they did with silver coins. Who knows when

    @timscoviac@timscoviac3 жыл бұрын
    • Tell me where I can sell copper for 4.50

      @scottlancaster4503@scottlancaster45032 жыл бұрын
    • @@scottlancaster4503 clean pure not scrap stuff man. in some places its up to 6 to 10 on a clean ingot on the pound

      @SmEiF-@SmEiF-2 жыл бұрын
    • If Scott gets a few 1982 zinc pennies in the melt, won't that just skim off with the rest of the zinc in the 95%ers?

      @gotsteem@gotsteem2 жыл бұрын
    • @@gotsteem I believe that the zinc would mix into the copper. Altering the color a little. If you get zinc in a lead smelt it makes it all clumpy though and it won't pour

      @matthewtomes9396@matthewtomes93962 жыл бұрын
    • @@matthewtomes9396 You know Matthew, after thinking about it, yes, you are right, duh.. All the pennies before 1982 were a 95/5% mix of copper and zinc.. Man, I sure goofed up on that one! LOL. Thanks.

      @gotsteem@gotsteem2 жыл бұрын
  • Nice work, Scott.

    @beausinclair4605@beausinclair46052 жыл бұрын
  • I just enjoy listening to the parrot in the background. I am a servant to my own parrot master.

    @laurenopferman7278@laurenopferman72782 жыл бұрын
  • 👍🏻 nice job. The time you spent with your daughter ... priceless 😃

    @meanboycoins6250@meanboycoins62503 жыл бұрын
  • 👍 I’ve been curious about this Penny melt process. My questions have been answered. Thank you. (SUBd)

    @majorpayne5289@majorpayne52892 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for the sub!

      @scottsCC@scottsCC2 жыл бұрын
  • Well I’m 72 years old and I never quit learn thank you for showing me something new

    @perrydegonia5755@perrydegonia575511 ай бұрын
  • $75 with todays prices with $25 worth of pennies plus all your time involved. Very cool video and that looked very heavy so you must be strong and brave.

    @chaicharin@chaicharin2 жыл бұрын
  • However, gas and tank cost can be offset with elbow grease. Scrap wood, lumber, discarded pallets etc. Can be made into charcoal. A charcoal fired forge with bellows costs $0 🔨 🔥

    @lilmike2710@lilmike27102 жыл бұрын
    • you still need borax

      @jacobpeters5458@jacobpeters5458 Жыл бұрын
  • The fact of including your child in this is absolutely ridiculously important and fantastic! I applaud you and her I'm assuming! 👏 I love your work! Much respect 🙏!

    @AmericaVoice@AmericaVoice2 жыл бұрын
    • What do you mean you’re assuming? You can see in the video that she did in fact have a little bit. That’s a very odd placement of the word “assuming”.

      @smarterthanyou9090@smarterthanyou90902 жыл бұрын
    • Good for you, bagface for being woke to the fact that our children are no longer boys or girls and should all be dressed in little skirts so we don’t influence their decision to identify as male or female or trans or whatever.

      @robertwesaidcarl.7845@robertwesaidcarl.78452 жыл бұрын
    • What?

      @CM-iz5ny@CM-iz5ny Жыл бұрын
    • @@smarterthanyou9090 Calm down.

      @LinkRocks@LinkRocks Жыл бұрын
    • @@LinkRocks Based on what did you come to the conclusion that I was excited somehow and needed to "calm down"?

      @smarterthanyou9090@smarterthanyou9090 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for time patience and days of looking for those pennies and the process

    @danielpatterson3932@danielpatterson39322 жыл бұрын
  • Oh how I love the sound of metals in the quench. Esp silver as that is my main pouring medium.

    @TomokosEnterprize@TomokosEnterprize2 жыл бұрын
  • That's why i build a wood and coal fire and I use a real efficient hand crank blower motor from an old coal forge. It takes a bit of work but I dont have to buy gas.

    @Jim-ow4ne@Jim-ow4ne2 жыл бұрын
  • Ok here's why melting coins is a bad idea. Coins in their original form are recognizable. You know what you're getting and what it's worth. When it's melted down like that, it's not easily exchangeable in a SHTF economy. For example, gold bars - some can make the weight come out right for the size by putting tungsten inside the bars. For your copper here someone else would want to x-ray or cut open your bar to make sure there's nothing hiding in there even if they weigh it' and thats a lot of work.

    @TechnoW1zard@TechnoW1zard2 жыл бұрын
  • I'm glad you pulled out the wheat backs, I used to see them all the time 20 years ago with the occasional Indian head, now I haven't seen an Indian head in years and I hardly come across wheat backs in the wild anymore.

    @brandonlink6568@brandonlink65682 жыл бұрын
  • I always wanted to see this!

    @robertherrera6852@robertherrera68523 жыл бұрын
  • Amen!! Thank you for explaining this. These videos drive me crazy !! Especially the people who derive gold from computers. It takes so much time and money. And people forget to consider their personal time, there is a price to put on that also.

    @stevelundt6498@stevelundt64982 жыл бұрын
    • Exactly. Have to put some sort of hourly rate on what your time is worth!

      @scottsCC@scottsCC2 жыл бұрын
  • current copper price is #3.39 / pound. $54.24 less $10 for LP gas leaves you with $44.24. $44.24 less the $25.00 in pennies leave you with $19.24. $19.24 / $25.00 = 77% profit. Not bad - beats the stock market!

    @liammclaughlin2881@liammclaughlin28812 жыл бұрын
  • Smart conclusion sir. Subbed. 👍

    @milsgarage@milsgarage2 жыл бұрын
  • You just proved what I've tried to tell others

    @robertgedritis5790@robertgedritis57902 жыл бұрын
  • Melting useless arcade game tokens is the option I choose is that when arcades no longer use tokens, they must melt down for real.

    @Sharptooth100@Sharptooth1003 жыл бұрын
    • Alot of those are brass to at least the ones I have come across

      @Dgafsranger@Dgafsranger3 жыл бұрын
  • If there were clean ,shiny and engraved ingots you can sell them for more (like 50$ per 2 pounds ingot ) as they could be nice on a desk . That is where the markup can be made .

    @kingk2405@kingk24052 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks. I've been wondering about this very thing.

    @americasfavoritehoarder@americasfavoritehoarder3 жыл бұрын
    • Glad to help!

      @scottsCC@scottsCC2 жыл бұрын
  • I really enjoyed this video!

    @TheVTrider@TheVTrider3 жыл бұрын
    • Glad you enjoyed it!

      @scottsCC@scottsCC2 жыл бұрын
  • I get what you're saying to a point. But, do you know when the markets going to crash again. When all that money you invested into stocks disappears. The great thing about metals is they hold their value. The stock market has been around for not long at all. But metals have been traded since the dawn of time. Yes they might go up and down a little. But when the stock market crashes again, because it will, your metal is still worth something

    @ddreuss@ddreuss3 жыл бұрын
    • Unless the market stays crashed below your investment value for 5+ years then it's not the same. Markets recover most of their pre crash value within a few years of a crash. Also if it is during a crash the value of the propane is going to go up. You would have to stock that too.

      @seangoggans7091@seangoggans70913 жыл бұрын
    • The next "crash" will be the last. The technocrats are ready for their complete takeover. Many lives will be lost. Your stocks will not feed you or anyone else.

      @fakename1870@fakename18702 жыл бұрын
  • First, as he says, it is illegal to melt down pennies. Right now, copper is about $4.5/lb. You need 153 pennies to make a pound of copper (pennies are 95% copper). So there is a $3/lb spread. So it should be economical to melt them. But I would just save them as pennies, for now.

    @happyhippo4664@happyhippo46642 жыл бұрын
    • Pennies WHERE 95% copper they mostly made from zinc or aluminium nowadays and plated with copper.

      @edwardneuman6061@edwardneuman60612 жыл бұрын
    • Definitely illegal. Citation: CFR 82.1

      @happyhippo4664@happyhippo46642 жыл бұрын
  • Often wondered about that. I’m much happier that you did it rather than me😁

    @gregr.9547@gregr.95472 жыл бұрын
  • THANKS FOR THAT INFORMATION!

    @RICHARD-ov8nw@RICHARD-ov8nw2 жыл бұрын
  • I agree that melting pennies to keep as bars for monetary gain is futile. If however you were to collect older pennies and then find the ones that were more desirable to collectors, you could sell one penny for a decent price. Less work, more profit.

    @XanBos@XanBos2 жыл бұрын
    • Sorting through coins like that is tedious and boring WORK.

      @vincedibona4687@vincedibona4687 Жыл бұрын
  • My Dad worked the Cash & Carry Counter at a Metals Supply in Atlanta, Georgia. Every few months a man in the same overalls stopped by and purchased about 6 rolls of coiled copper tubing. Once my Dad asked what he did with them. He said he chopped it up in various odd lengths and scattered about his Salvage Yard, making a handsome profit.

    @davidcouch6514@davidcouch65142 жыл бұрын
    • not sure what he was doing. the buyer was scattering chopped up tubing in his salvage yard?

      @samboheena@samboheena Жыл бұрын
    • @samboheena When he finds it again, the price will have increased in value

      @patricksexton4792@patricksexton47926 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for your Honesty.

    @greatwally1384@greatwally13842 жыл бұрын
    • Always!

      @scottsCC@scottsCC2 жыл бұрын
  • Very Intresting video. More fascinating on the melting of copper than the value of it.

    @rgflemboskibrain5251@rgflemboskibrain5251 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks 👍

      @scottsCC@scottsCC Жыл бұрын
  • You should make a lift ring for your crucible. Lifting by the edge like that could be risky if it comes apart and all the molten contents spill out.

    @Rockin_Ross@Rockin_Ross2 жыл бұрын
    • Spare me! Not another "safety dance" person! Leave us alone safety people! Do it!

      @donaldhoot7741@donaldhoot77412 жыл бұрын
    • @@donaldhoot7741 ok boomer

      @bigbirdmusic8199@bigbirdmusic81992 жыл бұрын
    • Especially in shorts and Crocs. 😂

      @Rieksfier@Rieksfier2 жыл бұрын
    • @@donaldhoot7741 you're free to do what you want. You're the one that is gonna get molten metal on you

      @deusvult6920@deusvult69202 жыл бұрын
    • Donald, I hope you never have a molten metal accident.

      @vincedibona4687@vincedibona4687 Жыл бұрын
  • I stack copper but I get it through scrapping I had heard years ago that there was a time when if you melted down a copper penny it would double it's value but I haven't done it and enjoyed watching and learning from it good job

    @guywilson2394@guywilson23943 жыл бұрын
    • 310grams in 1$ .... 4$ of pennies would weigh 3 pounds of copper ... you'd double the value and pay for the propane to melt them down

      @ryanscott2548@ryanscott25483 жыл бұрын
    • @@ryanscott2548 95 percent copper or 88% so you have to take that into account

      @hector5749@hector57493 жыл бұрын
    • @@hector5749 .05-.15 per dollar.... that's still hardly anything, but to be more profitable you'd have to cut out the propane....maybe an old propane tank with 1/2 the top cut off...stuck on a bonfire and starting with a few thin copper pipes to get the melting started....! $4 OF pennies would weigh about 2.5lbs after melting.... let's say a price of $3/lb canadian..... $3×2.5 = 7.50 - 4.00 (pennies) = 3.50 profit per pound.... gotta cut out the propane... I wonder how many pennies would fill a propane tank half full ;)

      @ryanscott2548@ryanscott25483 жыл бұрын
    • Is this illegal thing to do ?

      @patrickfrawley6656@patrickfrawley66562 жыл бұрын
    • Yes

      @2020525142152@20205251421529 ай бұрын
  • I think the future of copper looks brighter than gold

    @tmo4330@tmo43302 жыл бұрын
  • This was well done and i apprecaite the test you did. It makes sense to go ahead and sell the coins at a higher value. Let someone else do the melting.

    @homesteadaquarius@homesteadaquarius10 ай бұрын
  • Clarification. 1982 was the year the U.S. Mint removed Some of the copper and replaced it with zinc. Both Copper and Zinc we're pressed for that year. Have to weigh each penny that year to separate Zinc from Coppers. They sound different when dropped as well.

    @jeffreypowell1396@jeffreypowell13962 жыл бұрын
    • Correct! 3.11g for 95% copper,. 2.50g for mostly zinc ones.

      @scottsCC@scottsCC2 жыл бұрын
    • @@scottsCC I thought from 1959 to 1982 pennies were 97% copper, and 3% zinc? After 1982 pennies were 3% copper and 97% zinc. A lot of people don't know this but you're early Indian Head pennies are bronze. Not copper

      @unknownuser2737@unknownuser27372 жыл бұрын
    • @@unknownuser2737 'Flying Eagle' and early 'Indian" Cents were 88% copper, 12% nickel,. During 1864 the alloy was changed to bronze, in 1982 changed to copper plated zinc. Cents minted from mid 1864 through mid 1982 were bronze and weigh 3.1 grams.

      @-oiiio-3993@-oiiio-39932 жыл бұрын
  • So in simple terms, leave the pennies as they are, unless you're intending to actually make something that has a useful utilitarian purpose. Good informational video.

    @srbontrager@srbontrager2 жыл бұрын
    • like otzie the Ice Man's Copper Axe ?

      @triumphmanful@triumphmanful Жыл бұрын
    • gringo joto

      @masterventura@masterventura Жыл бұрын
  • right on man you just spared me from wasteing my time,or any more of it as i have seperated about 1000.00 dollars worth.

    @robertboyd4587@robertboyd45872 жыл бұрын
  • Good to have a helper.

    @chrisbudesa9355@chrisbudesa93552 жыл бұрын
  • Not to mention how long it takes to sort out the zinc coins. Great video....thanks☺

    @markcarter4504@markcarter45042 жыл бұрын
    • yeah it takes time, but if you weigh them (1982 pennies) its much faster, copper pennies weigh in at 3.1 grams while zinc pennies weigh in at 2.5 grams, you can even go buy sound by dropping them on a hard surface, copper pennies have a distinct sound compared to zinc pennies.

      @JohnnyUrbanWoodsmen@JohnnyUrbanWoodsmen Жыл бұрын
  • 1982 was a transition year when copper cents were made in the beginning of the year and then they changed and began making zinc cents. Anyone who is experienced with coins doesn't have to weigh them. They can tell if it's zinc by the look, feel and weight of them by eye and hand and give them the bounce test too. I've searched 100s of boxes of coins and found Indian head cents, wheaties, Canadian and foreign coins and I saved all copper cents dated up to 1982. I've sold $25 boxes of rolled copper cents to a scrap metal recycling center and more than doubled the money and got $54. I would never melt down and destroy coins. Btw, my recycling center would buy the copper ingots at the current scrap spot price. Why waste time melting coins when you can take boxes of copper coins to a recycling center and double your money. But not all buy coins so I'm lucky mine does. I don't have to advertise them either.

    @barrywainwright3391@barrywainwright33912 жыл бұрын
    • for me it's the sound

      @travismiller5548@travismiller55482 жыл бұрын
    • the reason people go to the trouble to melt copper down themselves is because you can get around $20 a pound for "artisinal" ingots.

      @travismiller5548@travismiller55482 жыл бұрын
    • don't worry about destroying coins, they already sell destroyed coin art at the mints.

      @travismiller5548@travismiller55482 жыл бұрын
    • I would just keep them , the price of copper is only going up over time , like most other metals that come short for some industries ..

      @metaljacket866@metaljacket8662 жыл бұрын
    • This guy wants the biggest cookie

      @Uleyra@Uleyra2 жыл бұрын
  • This was quite informative. You did it so I would not have to. I’m trying to help your Al Gore rhythm.

    @jonathankurz1979@jonathankurz19792 жыл бұрын
  • Hang on to it man!

    @qray4851@qray4851 Жыл бұрын
    • Copper is King!

      @qray4851@qray4851 Жыл бұрын
  • Zinc will harm you, so do be careful. As an artist I am always looking for copper to use for art, not profit. Coins were what I thought of, but the zinc factor has me spooked.

    @picklesnoutpenobscott3165@picklesnoutpenobscott31652 жыл бұрын
  • Well done Scott. I am sure you are getting paid now. This was good, I wonder if it could be done with a good old style forge with wood or coal to be cheaper? Then it might make sense but it would be so labore intensive. I dont think it would be worth it even then.

    @homesteadaquarius@homesteadaquarius2 жыл бұрын
    • Funny most 1982 Cents I come across are the Copper Ones & Yes I check Each one .

      @DavidJones-ib3zy@DavidJones-ib3zy2 жыл бұрын
    • meant to reply to the above "propheZ23" guy , But I wish I could melt down all the old Paper Shotgun Brass Hulls I have + other dug scrap metals . I know it can be done , I saw 'Big Stack Dude do it ' but don't know where to get a smelter and molds. That's just 1 of 100 things I want to do , add in the Bullets & fishing weights & WOW ! Mucho Metal . LOL

      @DavidJones-ib3zy@DavidJones-ib3zy2 жыл бұрын
    • You could probably just dig a pit in the ground and make a blast furnace.

      @matthewtymczyszyn8948@matthewtymczyszyn89482 жыл бұрын
  • Point taken but factor in future costs either up or down and it’s all a gamble ! I will be using the copper to make things such as plate and round bar for plant stands and slugs to stamp and resell for more then scrap price !

    @davekimbler2308@davekimbler23082 жыл бұрын
  • very informative.

    @OneEasyTarget@OneEasyTarget2 жыл бұрын
  • I have to say that was pretty cool. My mother will tell you (with a chuckle) about the time I set the carpet on fire trying to make a zinc apple from pennies using the lost wax process. I'm lucky it was just 10 year old carpet that was damaged, that stuff retains a lot of heat. I don't think it'd ever be worth it to melt them down in a backyard set up. I'm not sure doesn't the government sometimes decree certain coins are "obsolete" and can take a trip to the foundry?

    @Pyrolonn@Pyrolonn2 жыл бұрын
    • “According to Title 18, Chapter 17 of the U.S. Code, which sets out crimes related to coins and currency, anyone who “alters, defaces, mutilates, impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens” coins can face fines or prison time.

      @tahoma6889@tahoma6889 Жыл бұрын
    • @@tahoma6889 That specifically refers to attempting to change the value (alter) or remove the metal (lighten). Destroying a coin is not mentioned, because the statute is about fraud.

      @Pyrolonn@Pyrolonn Жыл бұрын
  • I often wonder if the people melting these go through them first good vid!

    @UnderDuress@UnderDuress2 жыл бұрын
    • Yes, they were all gone through to sort 1982 and older, and 1982 were all weighed individually.

      @scottsCC@scottsCC2 жыл бұрын
  • I learned something new from you. I didn't know that you can not sell it after you melt it down.

    @Michael-tg5mx@Michael-tg5mxАй бұрын
  • As a fellow Texan myself and precious metal purchaser, I would think that your comment on not with it due to inflation is incorrect. As of today and in the future Cooper will continue to rise in price, but when purchasing power vs inflation (pp) wins every time. Today it's $3.41 pound so taking $35 in total cost to preserve 16 lbs of copper (of today's purchasing power) then comparing the trade-in of future prices is better than placing $35 in a jar and seeing what you can purchase vs the $51 dollars of today's money is a win win. Don't most people think this way or an I missing something.

    @perpetual-learning@perpetual-learning Жыл бұрын
    • Exactly what I thought, in today's copper price, it would be $55 in metal value, and the $25 monetary worth of pennies would be buying far less now than 24 months ago, due to the Biden Regime's compounding inflation (7%-Oct. 2021+7.7-Oct.2022=14.7% less buying power)...

      @swaybelly3212@swaybelly3212 Жыл бұрын
    • @@swaybelly3212 Agreed, I'm in the process to purchase land and the interest rates on loans are going up every time the feds have a meeting. I never thought until now that have debt for land loan would be even better than before because of the constant devaluation of our fiat. Add BRICS nations buying up gold (dumping the dollar "probably using it to buy the gold") to then create an alternative reserve currency that would be backed by gold and continue to allow other countries that manufacture US goods more leverage over our market, and not to forget that unless people are buying pure 999.9 gold COPPER will still be used to generate less than 999.9 gold bullion. It's hard but we need to factor all these things when making videos to share knowledge.

      @perpetual-learning@perpetual-learning Жыл бұрын
  • Should heat your molds before pouring and pour slower for a smoother more even bar. Lose less grinding that way too.

    @stoneybaloneycatnip2400@stoneybaloneycatnip24003 жыл бұрын
    • Heat the molds to avoid a steam explosion...unless you like getting burns.

      @katieandkevinsears7724@katieandkevinsears77242 жыл бұрын
    • He had his safety shorts on.

      @robertmeadows1657@robertmeadows16572 жыл бұрын
    • He did heat his molds as seen at 8:52

      @nikogamer0825@nikogamer08252 жыл бұрын
    • @@robertmeadows1657 you forgot to mention his fire proof Crocs.

      @JAMaxeRestoration@JAMaxeRestoration2 жыл бұрын
    • You should also pre heat your utensils to prevent the metals from Sticking to them

      @michaelthacker6121@michaelthacker61212 жыл бұрын
  • Instead of a gas forge, would a wood/coal based fire (with air blower) work to reach melting temp? ( I have no idea if a blacksmiths fire reaches melting temps, just seems like it would be cheaper).

    @davidrn2473@davidrn24732 жыл бұрын
    • It's possible I would think!

      @scottsCC@scottsCC2 жыл бұрын
    • Are you SURE that you don’t know if humanity was able to smelt before the invention of a gas fueled forge? ARE YOU SURE you’re not just being an idiot?

      @chjarvis85@chjarvis852 жыл бұрын
    • If you can make one that works decently, a waste oil furnace will melt just about everything. Used motor oil and cooking oil, old diesel or kerosene will burn extremely hot and much cleaner than coal or charcoal. The main problem with building a WMO/WVO furnace is most designs want a pressurized feed, and at higher burn rates you'd need a large air compressor running almost constantly.

      @theobscurity9392@theobscurity93922 жыл бұрын
    • @@chjarvis85 you feeling pretty satisfied with yourself after being a total ass to a stranger?

      @travismiller5548@travismiller55482 жыл бұрын
    • @@chjarvis85 Not sure about David, but I am about you. Blacksmith forges aren't for melting, they are for heating metal until its malleable. His question is a valid one, the answer to which is that it depends on the forge itself.

      @winterborn82@winterborn822 жыл бұрын
  • Very good point.

    @ThomasLeonard454@ThomasLeonard4542 жыл бұрын
  • What a great video.

    @DannyVoltaje@DannyVoltaje Жыл бұрын
  • "You made exactly nothing on this." Kind of like selling silver on eBay.

    @TheSteveBoyd@TheSteveBoyd2 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome video! Very informative. Do you have a video melting silver coins or is it not worth it as well?

    @AHA500@AHA5002 жыл бұрын
    • I do - I do the entire process of refining some "no date" ones that have pretty much only silver value.

      @scottsCC@scottsCC2 жыл бұрын
  • Interesting video.

    @danielcunningham4213@danielcunningham42133 жыл бұрын
  • 👍thanks for the information

    @philipgriffin8827@philipgriffin88272 жыл бұрын
  • That's pretty impressive analysis... Though I think you might stand to benefit from watching some serious metal melting/form pouring guys on KZhead like TheGrowingStack and bigstackD... They have better tools if you're intending to do this more frequently. My advice is get a lifter that will apply force to the sides of your crucible for picking it up and place it into the center of a pouring tool with a full circle on the end that supports the whole thing. I think one of those guys has a video on making the tools for pouring molten metal. That said the yield you've gotten is quite respectable... that's got to be close to 99%.

    @ConcernedCitizenPPCA@ConcernedCitizenPPCA2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you - and yes this winter when I fire the forge back up, I plan on having a better lifting tool for the crucible!

      @scottsCC@scottsCC2 жыл бұрын
    • @@scottsCC Hope you have fun with it... Good thing is copper melts pretty low temperature, to melt steel well even those guys I listed have trouble doing it. I think the one guy set his forge/tank to like 4 mPa or whatever and still didn't get it fully melted though I've seen people melt steel with big induction coils and it melts pretty fast but that method is crazy dangerous if you don't know what you're doing.

      @ConcernedCitizenPPCA@ConcernedCitizenPPCA2 жыл бұрын
    • I agree with everything theyve said, except for the love of god…. Put some pants on and lose the crocs. Burns of that nature really suck

      @Tony_acosta@Tony_acosta2 жыл бұрын
    • @@scottsCC I sound a penny the other day worth $392. from the 1970's. By the way, defacing or destroying currency is a crime, ya know?

      @tahoma6889@tahoma68892 жыл бұрын
    • @@tahoma6889 I asked a penny destruction artist about the legalities the other day... she said they sell her artwork IN THE MINT. she was really rude about it too... she must answer that question a lot.

      @travismiller5548@travismiller55482 жыл бұрын
  • You say in the video that you're not allowed to sell those ingots as proscribed by law. Yet, carefully reading the regulation you kindly posted at the beginning of your video doesn't seem to say that. It appears to state that you can resell melted-down pennies and nickels IF they're being sold for artistic purposes (novelty or jewelry are mentioned) rather than the intrinsic value of the metal. Does that mean that if one polished the ingot and sold it as an art piece that it could be resold legally?

    @donreid6399@donreid63992 жыл бұрын
    • Or pour it into an art piece instead of a plain ingot.

      @dbcrn859@dbcrn8592 жыл бұрын
    • Nice loopholed you find

      @kaboomwinn4026@kaboomwinn40262 жыл бұрын
    • That was the same logic behind the prohibition of ownership of gold. If you had a gold coin, drilled a hole in it, and put it on a necklace, you were not violating the law

      @ArtStoneUS@ArtStoneUS2 жыл бұрын
    • Once the coins are melted down how would anyone know they used to be pennies? Nobody that's who, so just do it and profit.

      @mmace3@mmace32 жыл бұрын
    • @@mmace3 Actually any scrap yard with a PMI gun can tell instantly.

      @kevinsellsit5584@kevinsellsit55842 жыл бұрын
  • I just did my first Devil Forge melts this past Sunday. I'm glad my lid isn't the only one that looks like that...hahahahah. Man it was so much fun.

    @spagsunfiltered@spagsunfiltered Жыл бұрын
  • cost. 25 dollars for the pennies. The forge. The tools. The molds. The gas. The gas line. Your labor time in: Acquiring the pennies. Sorting the pennies. Ordering the tools, lines, forge, molds. Shipping and any other charges related to a card. Gas and wear and tear on your vehicle getting the forge gas. All the time you spent on your allotted life span that you'll never get back. This fella actually went in the hole making this vid.

    @richardalvis4695@richardalvis46952 жыл бұрын
  • It's legal to do anything you want with your money as long as you're not attempting to alter the face value for profit.

    @matthewtomes9396@matthewtomes93962 жыл бұрын
  • READ the Law at the beginning of the video guys! I have no plans or intent to sell any of it. This is not against current US law as it is not being 1) sold or 2) sold for profit. It is for educational purposes only. All of the coins used here were 1982 and older AND all of the 1982's were weighed individually to ensure they were 3.11g and not the 2.50g zinc ones.

    @scottsCC@scottsCC2 жыл бұрын
    • how do you remove the zinc content to move the melted pennies into a ingot at greater 95% purity ?

      @Padres-sv1lr@Padres-sv1lr Жыл бұрын
  • Quick tip: I Cut a piece of cardboard and put it under the crucible before I start, the carbon prevents refractory/crucible from fusing onto the base of the silicon carbide crucibles.

    @appatula@appatula Жыл бұрын
  • People are commenting that copper price has risen. But so has gas prices. Gas prices for the propane has risen % wise more than the price of scrap copper.Its now even more not worth it.

    @stevelundt6498@stevelundt64982 жыл бұрын
  • Agree, not worth it. As some have commented, a copper cent is a pre determined, convenient copper content and value depending on the price of copper. There is no need to alter that in any way. Copper cents are really our last form of constitutional money around and I too have been keeping any I've received but they are becoming scarcer. It is fun to search coin rolls, it is worthwhile (and free) if anyone wants to build up a stash of copper. Copper cents could be a means of rounding prices if the situation arises where people only accept silver instead of worthless paper.

    @wkb373@wkb373 Жыл бұрын
    • Penny is being discontinued shortly.

      @463656@463656 Жыл бұрын
    • @@463656 The penny has been planned to be 'discontinued shortly' for 50 years and its still around. I'm not concerned.

      @Anonymous-db2de@Anonymous-db2de Жыл бұрын
    • @@Anonymous-db2de in may I believe was what I meant by shortly

      @463656@463656 Жыл бұрын
  • It’s all fun and games till you melt a collectible 1909 VDBS and realize it’s worth $1000

    @solunaescutcheon5428@solunaescutcheon54282 жыл бұрын
    • I've roll searched every single one of them beforehand! Also checked for errors!

      @scottsCC@scottsCC2 жыл бұрын
    • That's the real reason I don't melt mine. I just stockpile until I need them, Then I'll sort through them for key dates. It's no harder to store pennies than ingots. The law is a factor too , lol. I hope a grand child will help or have the pleasure when I'm gone. I found a steel war penny in the coin return of a coinstar recently. Most people just don't pay attention.

      @timothylongmore7325@timothylongmore73252 жыл бұрын
  • I have probably close to a thousand copper pennies, and I was waiting for them to be worth more but, if I have to buy everything to melt them I don't think is really worth it, better invest in to something that will be worth over time. Thank you that was a good wake up call, on saving those copper pennies.

    @georgemontes8440@georgemontes84402 жыл бұрын
    • Things change. Your mystery blob will become valuable soon enough and China won't be sending supplies to their enemy pretty soon either. People who make furnaces in the good ol USA still get their supplies from China. Might want to get the furnace while you can. Your mystery blob has more copper in it than a mere penny and finding a bunch of pre 82 pennies today is proving harder and harder. All recycled metals head to China. Finding copper is eventually going to be as hard as finding silver scrap is today. All good things do come to an end. Anyone thinking a penny is going to get anything after a dollar collapse is nuts but "blobs" will be bought to make munitions. People amaze me by how dense their thinking is. If you sell me a legit blob of copper the first time I will happily barter with you for a second "blob" again. Just sayin... You do you.

      @TEXAS-SMITH@TEXAS-SMITH Жыл бұрын
  • 2:08 lol. Did that bird just say, “I’m a good boy” ?🤣🤣

    @donaldham308@donaldham308 Жыл бұрын
  • So the way to come out on melting pennies for copper is to melt it in a wood fire that you were going to burn anyway. Just need a blower, and $2500 in copper pennies to make a grand. Of course you could use them to plate with as they are. Copper is worth a lot more when you plate it onto a bumper and chrome over it or whatever.

    @punkinhaidmartin@punkinhaidmartin2 жыл бұрын
  • 17:07 “It’s not worth it.” (Green scale backlight goes out.)

    @BrooklynWalker@BrooklynWalker2 жыл бұрын
  • God bless America! Really great subject, AND our currency will hopefully always be WORTH more than its surface value! REMEMBER you can only do this in the USA! Give thanks… no complaints!

    @justinharris52@justinharris522 жыл бұрын
  • Copper did 100% since this video. Nice work

    @SVFFER...@SVFFER... Жыл бұрын
  • I know a copper penny is worth more as scrap than it is in money but I don't know if the scrap buyer would trust a person selling melted copper, because it can be mixed with other metals and would be hard to tell the difference, They can drill and test it but some don't want to bother.

    @eogg25@eogg253 жыл бұрын
  • I’ve watched this twice it just doesn’t make cents lmao

    @sammercedesrocco3379@sammercedesrocco33793 жыл бұрын
    • CENTS XĎDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDX

      @bonedmordh5320@bonedmordh53203 жыл бұрын
    • It makes dollars...

      @sauljimmytakavic4286@sauljimmytakavic42862 жыл бұрын
  • Very informative and interesting .................

    @billstiem6035@billstiem6035 Жыл бұрын
  • I do love the African Gray in the background, they're sweet birds.

    @steve8395@steve8395 Жыл бұрын
  • I know a guy who has been collecting copper Pennie’s since before I was born. He’s got like four pallet boxes full. Has to be 10 tons at least. Use a waste oil heater to melt the copper. Get a 200 gallon bin of oil for free from an oil change shop. Plenty of folks use waste oil heaters. It’s almost $5 a pound now.

    @chloehennessey6813@chloehennessey68132 жыл бұрын
  • Now I know why we are in coins shortage crisis.

    @medusaskull9625@medusaskull96253 жыл бұрын
    • Haha.

      @ScottHD@ScottHD3 жыл бұрын
    • That is a myth. Contraction of the money supply.

      @destrowon1938@destrowon19383 жыл бұрын
    • The shortage is people throwing them away.

      @garyburns8040@garyburns80403 жыл бұрын
    • our*

      @henny4360@henny43603 жыл бұрын
    • 😂😂😂 yeah

      @trevortheturkey8411@trevortheturkey84112 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks man!

    @reallyman9418@reallyman941811 ай бұрын
  • Interesting - Thank you

    @howardjohnson2138@howardjohnson21382 жыл бұрын
    • You're welcome

      @scottsCC@scottsCC2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you.

      @howardjohnson2138@howardjohnson21382 жыл бұрын
  • I literally see 20 plus pounds of scrap copper wire and tube go into the recycle dumpster on every house my brother builds. These get hauled off by whatever company is contracted to remove the waste from the jobsite and he has to pay for this waste to be removed. There are far easier and cheaper ways to get scrap copper and brass if you are so inclined.

    @joem7572@joem75722 жыл бұрын
  • I believe But this isn't really considered illegal. I would never say anything but be careful you don't have Treasury knocking on your door for melting down coins that were perfectly good. I've heard stories about people mounting down coins I'm getting in serious trouble to saying. Thanks for the video very interesting. God-bless you

    @Chris-dg7vk@Chris-dg7vk2 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for sharing

    @scarsprospecting@scarsprospecting3 жыл бұрын
  • Good point bud. I've seen videos of people that have half of thier basement full of boxes of pennies lol...not to mention they also buy copper coin sorters for who knows how much. Don't think they'll ever agree with you but, of course, thats just thier way of justification...because its hard to admit when one is wrong. Again,,,good video!

    @stevenmarkeveys864@stevenmarkeveys8643 жыл бұрын
    • I own a copper penny sorter and a several thousand dollars worth of copper pennies which my dad started hoarding when he was young, and even though copper might not be considered a precious metal at this time that doesn't mean that somewhere in the near future or the distant future that copper could very well be a precious metal, for me personally, I'm not hoarding for my personal investment, my hoard is going to be passed down to one or both of my daughters and then they can either add to it or admire it and if it becomes a precious metal in their lifetime then they can feel free to sell it, if not then I've already talked with them about passing the hoard down to their children

      @rickydona919@rickydona9193 жыл бұрын
    • @@rickydona919 @stevenmarkeveys Same here. I want it not really for investment but to pass down and always have some treasure or value stored somewhere along with silver and gold. I do not see it as a investment but a collection and treasure for the future.

      @hector5749@hector57493 жыл бұрын
  • I have found the war time pennies from WWII work best. 1939 to 1946. I do pours for vets quite a bit.

    @TomokosEnterprize@TomokosEnterprize2 жыл бұрын
    • Removing the steel ones of course

      @ArtStoneUS@ArtStoneUS2 жыл бұрын
    • Steel pennies?

      @stevenleslie8557@stevenleslie85572 жыл бұрын
    • @@stevenleslie8557 Both our countries made them. I am a Canuckian. My dad saved a few as he was there in the middle of that awful time in Europe. He was gone for 3 years. I treasure every one of them from both our countries. They all paid big for our freedom.

      @TomokosEnterprize@TomokosEnterprize2 жыл бұрын
    • @@stevenleslie8557 in 1943, during World War II, they made pennies from steel in order to use the copper for other more important purposes

      @ArtStoneUS@ArtStoneUS2 жыл бұрын
    • @Steve L I will melt anything if asked to. Some silver pieces mean a lot to folks when made into something special they want.

      @TomokosEnterprize@TomokosEnterprize2 жыл бұрын
  • Don't forget you have to pay for the furance, the crucible, all the tools, and the molds. All in all even with the current market it is still not worth it.

    @wendull811@wendull8112 жыл бұрын
  • Nice job. If I had the stuff to do that I would cast a copper axhead

    @lookronjon@lookronjon2 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for making this video. I found it very interesting.

    @jackjyoung@jackjyoung2 жыл бұрын
    • Glad you enjoyed it!

      @scottsCC@scottsCC2 жыл бұрын
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