Nikon Z 9 Buffer Tests. XQD/CFe/LosslessRAW/High Efficiency Raw
2021 ж. 30 Қаз.
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Hey everyone !
Based on so many questions about this topic I decided to pull this video forward ahead of other videos...
So in this video we will cover the Z9 buffer how that buffer works with XQD cards how it works with CFe cards and how it works when you change the Raw from Lossless compressed to high efficiency * and so on.
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All of these shots and absolutely no wear and tear on the shutter. Brilliant!
Resale values would be insane! No more "what is the shutter count?" queries.
But there will be wear and tear on the shutter button itself and on you shutter finger muscles......
@@BigRedDogATL And all the gunk built up around the AF-ON button 😂
How about wear and tear on the processor? Is it possible that the processor will slow over time? That’s the one thing I’m wondering, is while it’s great to think we won’t have to be concerned with shutter count anymore, but yet, everything about the camera is dependent on how well the processor performs. I’m sure that must have a lifespan or a rate of degradation.
@@paulrubino1399 I'm no engineer but I think solid state electronics last a long, long time. The thing to worry about is acute damage, not wear and tear over time. Then again, sensors do get gunk in the AA filter that can be hard to get out. That's happened to me.
This is why everyone trusts your info, when its based on fact and showing the options, then its down to the user, i am so glad nikon give you the access.
Il let them know for sure so it doesn’t stop
@@RicciTalks The community appreciates all the work you do, keep up what is great work, appreciated and shared often.
Definitely, this all started because the very trusted DP Review, Chis Nichols only got 40 frames buffer in 14bit Lossless and there is no 12bit, so then Matt Granger said everyone was horse-shit liars, but he was testing the Lossy High Efficiency Plus mode, not 14bit Lossless RAW. Which just caused more confusion. Still with the fastest cards, you'd be lucky to get about a 4 second buffer, not bad, not great...but pretty decent for 20fps in 14bit Lossless! I get around 75 frames buffer on my D850 in 12bit Lossless RAW with a Sony CFexpress 128GB Tough series card. But that's at 9fps (actually 9.5-10fps with fully charged battery at 64 ISO) with the MB-D18 and EN-EL18c battery, so around a 7.5 seconds of buffer. Obviously the Z9 is getting more images in the buffer, at 20fps and 14bit Lossless. I never noticed any real difference at all between 12bit and 14bit Lossless, but I still wish the Z9 offered 12bit Lossless, just for the smaller file size, without any noticeable losses in IQ. Seems with the Z9 you have to shoot Lossy to get that big, endless buffer. Still the Z9 is awesome and maybe someday in firmware they will release 12bit Lossless as an option. No more sRAW or mRAW either, right?
@@patricksmith2553 In the Nikon panel discussions there was a comment that the compression software more efficient and that the file size for 14b not significantly larger than 12b files on previous versions. Ricci hopefully will give a better explanation.
Good thing the Z9 does not use a mechanical shutter, or otherwise Ricci would have just chewed through his shutter lifespan.
Thanks for clearing this confusion up. The Angry photographer raked this thing up unnecessarily....claiming that his 'friend' had told him so....great way to lie and pass it over to one's friends. The Z9 is a marvel...great work Nikon
it still chokes in RAW as the Angry Photographer mentioned. Just not at 35 frames. More like 85 which is good enough for me! I'm still mostly a one shot at a time guy!
@@gosman949 You have to chose, between choke with less frames or halt while clearing the buffer, for sport cameras, the first option is the right one.
@@gosman949 I won't call 81 frames at 45 MP choking. No one needs that kind of shooting today
Ken's going to HATE this real world test, lol
@@hitmanhart22 still that is not even the fastest card out there. We could be looking at over 100 full raw burst.
*update* been in contact with Angelbird ! So will be doing further testing with them Everyone that asked about the Z9 Buffer I heard you ! Hopefully this video and my following video on the RAW files (high efficiency RAW) makes things clear ! thank you so much for watching Good bye !
yes, lossless compressed vs H.E. comparison
@@jasonbanas2899 The Sony tough cf express 128gb has only a 383mb/s sustain writing speed vs 1400mb/s for delkin black 512gb
Excellent, through and accurate video as usual. Thank you Ricci!
Great Video if you can not get the shot in 80 shots take-up painting
Thais for sharing, people remember the issue with flickering lights and no shutter. Thanks agsin
Ricci the Nikon Icon 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Lol perfect 😂💯💯💪🏾. Ricci just shut these haters up in the most humblest way 😂😂😂
Thanks for this. What shines through is your diligence, humility and honesty. No unnecessary hyperbole or obfuscation. Never have I seen you bashing other cameras either. Keep making your videos. Subscribed
I appreciate that!
Basically with an appropriate memory card the buffer on the Z9 will never limit your photography ! I do really wish the nay sayers would do their homework and stop spreading nonsense about this amazing camera. Thanks for the info and as always superb clarity Ricci. If anyone doesn't understand this please stop doubting the integrity of Nikon cameras.
Problem is, cfex manufacturers have to start writing minimum/sustained speed. Only writing max speeds is unacceptable.
@@Dennis94913 Thats marketing and it wont go.
you mean like the angry photographer "nikon fanboy" who doesn't have any affiliate links?
Thanks for providing such good information and discussion without all the ultra-hype. Nikon was very wise to make this gear available to you for sharing with us.
Thank you so much for the clarity, Ricci! I always feel that we get the most honest information from you, and judging the items I've bought in the past, due to your reviews, that opinion stands. Congratulations on your channel growing, too. You obviously deserve that recognition, and I remain a fan of your super clear reviewing style! :)
Thank you so much Mike !
@@RicciTalks Yes sir!
The internet seems to be full of Nikon experts(lol) , there are far fewer real experts, thankfully Ricci falls into the latter category
Ricci, thanks for your videos. Hands down, the KZhead influencers just spread too much wrong information otherwise. Your videos help to shield Nikon from those bias.
Great, clear video Ricci, as usual. I'm afraid a lot of people on KZhead aren't interested in helping consumers make informed decisions. They'd rather play up the drama, declare winners and losers, and get clicks, even if the cost is clarity and truth. So this is a good remedy to that!
I absolutely agree. Looking forward to your discussion of the high-efficiency file types. Thanks so much.
@@donaldanderson591 You mean Ricci's discussion about the high efficiency file types? Yes, I also hope he talks more about this in a future video. I am also curious as to RAW crop performance. I understand that you can't change the size of RAW files like you can with JPEGs EXCEPT when you are cropping. So in theory a cropped RAW might be faster than a FF RAW (fewer pixels to deal with). How fast can we shoot in RAW DX, for example?
Yes, so much negativity. "My gear is better than yours" mentality..
Thanks Ricci, now all the users have reality, less false info will be spread. Really appreciate this thanks 🙏
Ricci, you seem surprised that everyone loves your videos. Frank and honest reporting without the click bait bull dust. Superb work.
Ricci, you could not have been anymore clearer if you tried my friend. You broke down the differences between the cards and the different types of raw, basically raw small, med and large for all intense purposes. It is guys like Ken Wheeler, The Angry Photographer who has sunk to all new lows of bashing equipment that he hasnt used, which starts mess like this in the first place. Nikon knew what they were doing by putting the Z9 in the right hands, your hands to be more specific. Thank you Ricci for being that beckon of light in an otherwise cloud of you know what.
Thank you for doing the tests. You’re becoming my source of truth when it comes to Nikon gear. Well done.
Great to hear!
Even in a highly active scene 80 frames means your moving subject is in a completely different position in the scene. That's 4 seconds of action. Shooting moving Cars, motorcycles etc. In sports the play you are shooting is already over (American Football most plays or downs. Basketball the action sequence of a player driving the lane that you just shot is now history. In Baseball the batters swing is long over and the ball is already in play on the field or in the catchers mitt. A tennis player has already returned the shot across the net) etc. The Z9 specs are just incredible. Getting rid of the mechanical shutter is fantastic. Wish I could get one. I'll just have to settle for my D850 for now.
Great video Ricci... Maybe that foolish angry photographer can stop spewing false facts about the Z9 now!
I doubt it, he is delusional
@@MrPetermc199 He used to give good advice on lenses before he became a Fuji fanboy and a Nikon hater! He is a lost, lonely soul that went off the deep end with lots of anger issues 😉
Which angry photographer? Many are passive aggressive.
@@stanleynowak9325 Theoria and he also calls himself, not my words but his, the bald, fat tattoo guy!
That’s all he has now is “alternative facts”. He took a trip to coocoo land and decided to stay.
Finally a camera that my unborn grandson can inherit without worrying about shutter wear.. This is perfect..
At LAST! Somebody decent and honest with open testing and mature comments! Thank you!
Keep calm and Cary on. You are producing great content. Thanks for doing this video. The write speeds we see here simply amaze me. When you consider the amount of data being transferred. I always look for the fastest cards I can, when I buy new cards. What are the true limits of the Z9 it appears it's write speed is faster than the cards that are available.
Wow! You didn't rant once during this review. Imagine that! Thanks for the clarification. Always enjoy your videos. Well done!
Ricci, no need to apologize for the pace of your content. I've quickly come to discover yours as the best channel out there for Nikon nerds like myself. Your honesty and thoroughness and attention to the details that matter to photographers is unparalleled. I really appreciate the work you do. Thanks!
Love your channel; great, straight-forward facts based information and recommendations without the BS! :) Seriously, thank you for your content. Beyond delighted to see that subscriber number climb for you! I ordered my Delkin Black cards for my coming Z9 based on your original Z9 video; and then this icing on the cake testing to confirm it was the rational purchase to make :) Not the first time, at all, that I've used your input as the final factor in my gear purchase decisions.
Thank you so much for clearing up this confusion regarding buffer!
Thanks for sharing this and for your valuable time. Look forward to the next ones. Cant wait.
Well done. It proves a lot of critics wrong that are trying to downgrade this camera.
Transparent, honest, factual, and no drama...subbed! Thank you.
Great content as always. Thank you for you honesty.
That's now an absolute. Well done Ricci. Great video, great confirmation to those who doubted.
Thank you. Excellent demonstration of the impact of memory card speed!
Thanks Ricci! Great to hear that you are still planning to do non-Z9 themed videos! Best of luck!
Thanks very much, such useful content. Really looking forward to seeing the Raw comparison and more detail on this.
Thank you for clearing that up. Incredible camera. Impressive!
I shared your inital Z9 video alot on my blog. Great work. :)
Thanks a lot ! 😊
Thanks for another great Z9 review. I haven't seen anyone else explain this kind of stuff more clearly. Can't wait to see your breakdown of the different raw compression types!
One of the best channels out there!keep up the good work!greetings from greece.
Hi Ricci, your video on the Z9 buffer is absolutely clear. Thank you very much for providing us with accurate, precise and useful information. That’s great!
Cheers Ricci. Your videos on the Z9 and 100-400 are the best on KZhead. We’ve all seen the specs by now, but you go deep and show it all in real-time, no questions asked. Can’t wait to get the Z9 100-400 in my hands.
Thank you so much for this video and acting quickly on the controversy around this buffer. This clears up the confusion a lot.
An incredibly informative demonstration of the Z9 buffer. Really answers the questions I had and will help me in selecting cards to get. Thanks, Ricci!
Thank you! Another informative vid! 🙂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Definitely planning on a Z9 in 2022, it's got everything I could want & more - so happy to be in the Nikon system.
Thank you for a great job clearing up all the confusion around the Z9 buffer. Looking forward to your future videos on the Z9 and the new lenses.
Super Video , well done and thanks for all the Z9 videos this week
just what I needed - thanks! looking forward to the vid comparing IQ with the different formats
Great fully accurate content without the drama or hype. Thanks
Ricci - you are my #1 go to for camera information - please keep these coming! Thanks so much for your stellar work!
Super clear, thanks! I’m looking forward to the Nef quality comparisons etc.
Very cool, ordered the Z9 via my NPS and researching cards now… perfect timing and very thorough
Finally a good video on the subject!
The information is provided in an easy to digest way, thanks. Next the actual refresh rate of the EVF, given the usual caveats about Nikon's dedicated EVF pipeline approach.
Great information as usual. Thank you Ricci!
So that clears that buffer up! Thanks Ricci for the great content as usual.
Thank you so much Ricci! This test of yours just confirmed what I felt was the logical “issue” here. It also confirmed that I don’t have to look anywhere else for true and accurate information concerning everything Nikon. Your channel is all that I need to know what’s going on in the Nikon world. Thanks Ricci!
Brilliant. Just what the doctor ordered. Efficient and to the point. The very marked difference in the cards is extremely interesting. Thank you for the info.
This was great Ricci! Insane how good the Delkin Black is.
As usual, excellent and transparent and clear. Thanks!!! My Z9 is ordered!
Thank you for adressing this "issue"! Great video as always!
So keen to watch the video on lossless versus high efficiency. These videos are fantastic. Thanks for them.
This is amazing video of buffer test. Thanks for taking time and doing this....very good video..
Subscribed! I've seen quite a few vids on the z9 but they don't go in depth like you do. Love this vid, thank you!
Great Ricci, as always! Thank you
Good job Ricci, just what we all needed to know. Impressive how fast the buffer clears when it is full! Your Z9 coverage has been excellent , keep it going.
Thanks! 👍
Thanks for the video, this camera just keeps on amazing me, can’t wait to get mine.
Thanks for clearing this up Ricci
Thank you for doing a proper test. This is why I wait for your videos instead of jumping at the first ones (pReviews)...
Awesome as always, my go to content for down to earth Nikon reviews and comments. Don't change anything!
Thank you ! 😊
Thank you Ricci to explain the difference on memory cards. Write speed and a fast memory controller makes the difference. And the Z9 is a beast.
Hi Ricci! Good day. Fantastic info. Thanks a lot. It save me from the confusion on Nikon Z 9 buffer. Stay safe. Keep it up.
As always a great video and hopefully clears up any misunderstanding that some people have.
Thank you Ricci. Great comparison.
WOW, I’m just glad, that I have found you, thanks for your great effort and honest reviews, keep up the Great job!
Another great review, and without ego! Thanks
Thank you for such a clear explanation about Buffer
Thank you for taking the time to make this video!
Great info as always. I am looking forwards to the comparison between lossless raw & the new high efficiency*
Thanks for making that clear. Guess everyone has listened as I notice these cards are in short supply, or on backorder. Thanks for your testing. Not sure what us or Nikon would do without you. Cheers
Ricci if you carry on you will get a lot more than 30,000 subscribers. You are my most trusted source for information on photography and Nikon in particular. Keep going you are doing a great job.
Great information and fantastic way of testing, thank you!
Outstanding presentation. I have no intent to purchase this camera, but really enjoy the clear and forthright examination. Nikon is really lucky to have you as a reviewer.
I got lucky, placed an preorder for the Z8 four days ago and was told yesterday I will get one from the first batch they release tomorrow! I have been to youtube for help on Z8/Z9 so I can hit the ground running and after reviewing many want to thank you for the having best by far. Very complete, fact based, and present the material in logical manner. Too bad KZhead is cluttered by many Z8 "reviews" that looked to be made by retired / fired National Enquirer cover planners. Made it that much harder to find your content but now subscribed so no problem in future!
Welcome to the family ! 😊
The best camera review / explanation on the internet! Man you're good
That was brilliant Ricci, thanks for your work. Greatly appreciated. The Z9 is a beauty but it's not for me, I would simply never do it justice. I look forward to all your videos which are probably the most honest and helpful I've seen. Sincere thanks !
Just great content, thanks so much for doing this.
Excellent subject. Thank you for posting.
Loving these high quality detailed videos! Given how fast that buffer clears, I don't even think people who want lossless will have issues, because there's almost no situations where you hold your finger down for many seconds, its almost always bursts, even with wildlife action stuff.
I'll never own a Z 9 but I'm excited what this camera means for brand and the future of the rest of the Nikon line. Super exciting! I love your videos!
Thanks for this test. Very helpful. I understand how much work these take.
Awesome, awesome videos. Facts is facts and thats what I appreciate. Less commentary and more facts.
Excellent video. Clear, concise, no room for vagueness. If you buy the fast cameras, you MUST buy the fast cards to fully make use of it. Simple and logical. More broadly, it's crazy just what this camera (and presumably the flagships from others ) can do. 45mp files at 20fps for 80 frames and buffer clears in half a second or so!!? Astonishing, really.
Ricci, Thanks as always for being so transparent in your discussions. Great job as always. Really AWESOME job not only answering questions but anticipating the next ones. My question for you (which you said you were going to address at the end of your video) was exactly the one brought up in the KZhead Video from TheCameraStoreTV Canada with Michelle Valberg and Nikon Canada's Chris Ogonek. As you are also aware, Chris said (paraphrasing) that "no one should be shooting in lossless compressed anymore, as high efficiency star is half the file size with minimal quality loss". Thank you for taking on that topic. Your channel has become one of my best and first sources of information on these topics.
Thanks a lot for the video Ricci, very informative and helpful !
Brilliant info… thanks for posting this.
Nikon users don't spray and prey! We'll leave that to the Canon-users! Whilst you can take 120 frames per second, I think this will be more of a specialist angle. I can't see using more than 20 FPS and then rarely. My main motivation for possibly getting this camera would be bird photography. The Z6ii I have at present is the fastest frame rate camera I have ever had and I may have had it on continuous low sometimes. If I had a better birder lens I might have tried Canon-style spray and prey, but I don't, so I have to steer away from bird photography until I can get a longer lens. I really hope the 3D tracking makes it down to the Z6ii... * Looks at Ricci * - he's defo not going to answer that one! Great stuff Ricci and thanks for all your content.
Thank you for this great demonstration!
Another very informative video. Thanks Ricci. Keep them coming :)
Another great video. I will 100% upgrade my memory cards and it was always my intention when I get the Z9, which is on pre-order. I may keep one of XQD for my Z6 II and I’ll sell the rest. Thanks for a very clear precise video too 👍
And this is a channel that we photography lovers should watch when we want to get reliable information about photo equipment. Professional as always. I seriously think that Ricci should review also other companies' equipment. I really wish that every photography brand has their Ricci too. Thanks for additional coverage of this topic.
Thank you for clarifying this topic!
The way to go is by short bursts . Anyone who has been interested in fast action/ wildlife will know how quickly you can fill the card needlessly , I know I have done so with my D5 and that was at 24 mpxs let alone 45 at 20 fps! The important factor is how quickly the buffer will clear and evidently it will do so in under 1-2 seconds. I think Nikon has knocked it out of the park with the Z9 as it is BUT there’s another HUGE thing coming in the driveway in the form of computational photography for HDR. I see a Bright future ahead as Nikon has done away with the mechanical shutter and there should be room for developing the system more towards that respect. Ricci also knocked it out of the park with your videos, not just for the z9 but each and every single one since day one, hands down the best channel for photography. Thank you for your efforts mate great stuff.