Undisputed vs Fight Night Champion - Detailed comparison, Animations, Gameplay, Knockouts
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Detailed comparison of Undisputed (ESBC) and Fight Night Champion, gameplay, animations, knockouts, attention to detail
0:00 Movement
1:18 Punch animations
6:40 Knockdowns/Flash knockouts
9:40 Cutscenes
Both games deserve credit. With that said, FNC was ahead of its time which makes it legendary. It compares well to a 2022 game considering its age.
the only reason fight night compares is bc there's been no other boxing games to follow. this is a small indie company making this game. fight night is fun but I feel this will be far better
Totally FNC its the Battlefield 3 of boxing games
Facts
Well your comparing a full game created by a billion dollar company to a beta of an indie company.
Looks and plays better than undisputed, which is embarrassing
undisputed punching reminds me of punching in my dreams. That feeling of no impact.
after update they look much better now
undisputed need to make it to where the fighter bend their knees more and swing from the hip
Yea that’s the only problem for me if the game has that and a bunch of customization a good career mode I’ll get it
They've known this since they first showed us the punches back in 2021. They've yet to listen and fix the damn punches.
@@Apollyon_Rev911 It's fucking crazy to me
@@Apollyon_Rev911 lmao exactly
yes that is what boxers do ;) swing there punches from the hips. undisputed is more of a simulation. FNC was way more arcady...i have over 1000 hours in FNC and played maybe 50 hours of undisputed. the fighting mechanics in the undisputed beta are already way better then the of FNC...i see great potential specially for esports....its more competitive then FNC....higher ranked games in FNC looked always the same and were a side step marathon ^^ believe me i know that....top10 germany...top50 europe
The referee in Undisputed looks like an airport guy telling flies they can go 😂
Champion will always be a classic…Undisputed has potential and looks really good thus far
undisputed should've added referees inside the ring when the fight is happening... its so wrong having boxing fights without a damn referee during the fight and only appears when someone is knocked down 😂
Its beta. They dont have it in the betas
they disabled many many things for stability, they focused on servers and gameplay only
Are there gonna be other models added to the info sequences too?
Kenny Bayless is in the game as the ref
And the referee looks like a placeholder to me. There's hope xd
in fight night u can see the whole body moves before throwing a punch undisputed is stiff so far
That's what I hate is how stiff and robotic it is! Like how tf is it so hard for them to fix it? 8 months supposedly the game wasn't going to be that way so if anybody expects them to fix it they are just in denial now.
@@reviewforthetube6485 animating is not as easy as you assume it to be
In fight night you can also just spam hooks, the head movement is dog shit, and many other things make no sense. Like how can ali not reach Tyson with a jab unless Tyson is in range lol, fight night is fun but it's a horse shit game
I said the same thing
@@ReyMysterioReyTheMiz That has nothing to do with the original comment, If you want undisputed to be a great game, you have to realize its flaws, Undisputed punches are not driven from the hip like fight night does, simple
Fight night had it nailed.
yea its going to take some years before undisputed gets the way everyone really wants it. they at least have a foundation now to work off of.
I think the issue with undisputed is the punches look so weightless. Stiff yes but there's no power behind the punches it seems
100% correct
I think the movement is better in Undisputed but for the most part, the punching animations are better in FNC. For example, FNC has way better jab, straight and uppercuts but the combination punching in Undisputed does look a little better. I believe if they button that up and add little details, this can be a legendary game.
Yup, agree. The punches need to seem more impactful when they land, and hit detection could also use a bit more work. I think that's really the biggest issue the game has right now, if they could just fix that it would be a massive step in the right direction
@@IAWIA5 its early access... Like jesus ofc they are...
in the undisputed clip the player is too close throwing the jabs and straights so its weak he needs to create a lil distance
@@olliegreen3446 shut yo cry baby ass up like mfs cant critique what they see. obviously its early access
@@Workd05 they Can, But if they do NOTHING But complain, Its a problem. Ofc there’s issues with the game, Its early access.
I’m trying to keep an open mind, but honestly, everything just looks better in FNC to me (besides graphics, maybe). That game is still so good to this day.
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Undisputed is a great game especially for a beta but they really need to get the knockdowns right. When a fighter gets knocked down, they are always in the middle of the ring even if they get knocked down in a corner. I guess they teleported? Also, having a ref in there breaking up a clinch and separating the fighters or ordering a fighter to the neutral corner when a fighter goes down would be epic.
In Undisputed the player models and movement fluidity are miles better which goes without saying, although I'd love to see a slowmo knockout cam in Undisputed like we have in FNC. Also I'd like to see an improvement in celebration animations, or just a wider variety of different celebration animations. Just one example: have the coach or someone on the fighter's team pick them up in celebration, then have the fighter run and climb up on to the corners of the ring.
I remember replaying that Slo-mo KO like 100 times playing against my brother lmao
I agree. I have a sneaky suspicion that they’ve purposely chosen not to include these little details, as they want players in the beta to focus strictly on gameplay. It’s something they’re aware of for sure!
I disagree….Roy Jones in undisputed looks more like Martin Lawrence
Casual.
No your wrong it's better in fight night champion
To be comparing fight night against a game over 10 years later shows how ahead of its time it was and how lucky we were to play it. Bought that game the day it came out nd was bossing online back in uni days ha
I've had an xbox 360 at my computer desk for years, and only two discs have been in it in the last 6 years. FNC and FN4
In Undisputed, players need to drop their level when throwing punches to the body. I've sparred alot and never threw a straight to the body without bending my knees. FNC has this.
True. I have thought of it too because in real life one of my favorite combinations is jab to the head than a right to the body and from their I raise up(because I had bend my knee to lower myself) and from their i throw a strong left hook.
Not sure what dropping a level means lol. I just bend my knees or crouch like all boxers do
So you actually go below their chest level to throw body shots? Did Muhammad Ali or Roy Jones ever throw body shots like in Fight Night Champion? Come on now, stop being disingenuous I just that made the Undisputed is more realistic and updated as compared to Fight Night Champion.
fight night need to make a new game
Please
Fight night champion was so good, still play it to this day!! Seems lots of game were better during the xbox 360 days. So many great games back than!!
360 was the prime of online tbh neve had that much fun
I don’t know man it’s just something about fight night 😭 I like the way the players looked
That's that nostalgia bro 😂💯 it's still cold asl but Undisputed got it
Esbc is still stiff. It should be killing fight night. But it doesn’t
@@deon3133 facts
@@juicegawdzavo194 Lmaoo ong bro😂
Just need Fight Night to return. They are pros at making boxing games
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EA slept on the return of boxing fanatics... they milkin a lot of UFC stuff
Just downloaded fight night round 2 rom on laptop. What a game that was 👌
@@Kimble1599 ?
@@Apollyon_Rev911 Emulation
Great Graphics... still in beta... got some tweeks to work out.. Can't wait until final product!
With all the big fighters nowadays having a grand entrances and elaborate robes and trunks. It would be nice to have a customizable entrance with pyro, lights, entourage etc. and custom clothing options. Just adds to the theatrics of the game of what can happen outside of in-ring gameplay.
Love the page bro! Keep the great content coming!
The wave on the body after bodyshot is a fantastic detail
We need a new fight night.
We need fight night champions on the switch lol
Cant wait until we get to see a new fight night comparison vs undisputed
You will be an old age pensioner before you see a new fight night. EA don't give a fuck about boxing or you for that matter 🤷🏾♂️
@@stickii2131 who knows maybe its already been in the works longer than esbc i mean think about it why else would they have put isaac frost and andre bishop in two ufc games😏
@@stickii2131 not to mention they also put tyson fury and Anthony joshua in ufc too i think they are very aware of fans wanting boxing
@@alive4christ42 nah bro, EA can go fuck themselves for how they abandoned boxing send people too quick to forgive that shit. I'll support the ones that give a fuck about 🥊 Undisputed and Bloody knuckles Street boxing is who I'll be supporting. They are aware fans want a boxing game? 12 years and beyond EA been making you wait for another boxing game? Nah not me.
@@stickii2131 its not even that serious to be mad over though if your mad over something as small as that your either simple minded or you just have hate for everyone which is no way to go about our short lives
I've said it before if EA were smart they'd release a next gen update to fight night champion that improves the graphics with slight improvements and tweeks to the game and a couple of new boxers for $19.99 and they'd make a killing and it would be a great boxing game.
Fight Night Champion was definitly Not a Good boxing Game in Terms of gameplay. Was the worst Boxing game they released.
@@obafemimoebus9481 no you must have never played round 2 lol
@@obafemimoebus9481 bro was drunk 💀💀
To be honest the blocking system kinda has a Fight Night round 3 feel to it.
Good, because that automatic blocking to the head or body region is wack.
great gameplay footage campaw!!!
Can see they've spent a lot of time making the movement look more fluid but after actually getting hands on with the game I have to be honest in my opinion the movement is a bit sluggish. FNC allows you to move forward and quickly step back, Undisputed it almost feels like theres input lag between what you tell your player to do and when they actually do it. I also personally think punches (especially straight ones) could have a bit more weight behind them, don't know if its the hit boxes or animations but the punches feel a bit 'empty'. Definitely a lot of potential in the game but I thi k its gonna be super hard to beat FNC's level of intuity when it comes to controls.
I really hope they polish it up it's still to stiff when they throw and the extensions on the shots are just not all there. It's still a bit robotic. Yes its better then it was but not at the level we thought or that they promised lol. It's sad a game so old can keep up. I mean look at the hooks in fight night they don't vanish through the arms and gloves the arms actually move when touched. The new game the punches somehow go through arms like it's magic. I would also appreciate them making it where when a shot lands we can almost feel it like where things move a bit more not just the skin. But the screen mo e slightly. You want to feel like it connected. All of you hyping it up aren't helping the situation. If you ride there Dicks telling them how fantastic it is then we won't get a truely polished game. We need to tell them all of the flaws we see so they try snd fix it. But they haven't fixed the stiffness since the leaks 8 months ago so I don't expect them to now lol.
Your right, we all want it to be great but there is already blind people who are lying to themselves, they refuse to point out all the flaws and it doesnt help at all, its like they have been so excited to play it they just plain refuse to see its issues and it has alot of them.
You must be a certain type of stupid to think this moves this stiff. The real gameplay is way too fast paced.
Excellent video/idea, although I'd like to see Undisputed vs UFC 4 too.
I think Undisputed has massive potential if they can take some ideas from what you see here in FNC it will be so good like if they made the punch animations just a tad more lose make the fighter look like he's putting something behind it especially the uppercuts and show the fighters wearing damage like black eyes and stuff more swelling, cuts ect also a ref in the ring and instant reply alot to work on but will be great if they implement it all I would say loosen the fighters up a bit with punch animation is a must
It's not that the punching is missing anything its just that Fight night has the camera shit with big hits that gives the illusion of strength.. it's just arcade racing games having unrealistic blur to display speed vs Gran Turismo more realistic take on speed.
Wrong the punches in fight night are driven from hip movement, whereas undisputed is arm punches
The replays and everything are alot easier to perfect than the actual boxing system and flow of the movement. I think undisputed for early access is amazing. Obviously alot of work to add on but the foundations are solid to work on.
Graphics go to undisputed. Everything else goes to FNC. The counter window in FNC was done perfectly. The punches in undisputed looks like its missing that pop that FNC has.
esbc is a more realistic game not every punch irl is gonna be perfect tbh . Fnc is more arcade like which people prefer
Body shots footwork and combinations are killing fnc are u blind?
@@mikeylol3053 fnc punches aren't all hard. There is a huge gradient of power and it depends on a lot of factors
That counter window is not a real simulation, or does not replicate real life at all. Fight night is arcade and does a better job replicating a fake game
Movement & footwork way better in Undisputed.
Tbh, Undisputed needs a few tweeks and additions to get on par with the stunning presentation of FNC. A more close camera that follows the action and helps with the overall feedbacks (like when you connect a hit or are close to a knockout), better TV/Cinematic rappresentation, and the additions of replays to showcase all that technological goodness. From there they only need to make good carreer and modes. That said, this is an Indie team that is now capable to compete with a major title of 10 years prior, and this is a great achievement.
Tbf as well the punches in fight night would look pretty similar to undisputed (apart from fight nights horrible uppercut) if you took out fight nights camera shake as it makes the impact look more hard hitting
This was a great vid. I'm just being picky here but one observation was that all of the punch variations were not shown, maybe next time. For example in FNC you have 4 left hooks. Overhand hook, standard hook, hookercut/short hook, lunging hook then some stances have a signature short hook. With FNC jabs you have an up-jab, lunging jab, step in jab (some punch packages) and standard jab. I'm sure undisputed has variants of punches too. But for the person that has never seen FNC before there are quite a few more punch animations for each punch that were not displayed. Great vid and excellent idea on making this, it was very informative.
You must be a FNC vet lol maybe we’ve fought before
@@copperfronts1679 It was amazing. They also incorporated total punch control in EA MMA which came out in 2010 or around there. Once you learn the Total Punch Control using the buttons is horrible. It really limits what you can do and it also seems to use more stamina in FNC. Kind of like the game takes less stamina from your character if you use the sticks. (I could be wrong on that)
The fact that we comparing a old ass game to a new one just shows they got a lot of work to do on esbc , it should be way more realistic movement in the game
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Still looks kind of stiff, but also looks much better than the promo videos. Thanks to this video I will definitely add it to my wishlist.
Undisputed needs to allow the the continuing of the the lock on to the head or the body after you knock someone out so you can continue to punch/pummel after the ko, just like FN did. That was an awesome feature among other features the game needs to include in the final product; also the KO replay.
Undisputed got alot of work to do
What happened to video games everything devoled
Great Video! Honestly you can tell the dated animations in FNC but the game was still years ahead of it's time. Undisputed is still in early access so who knows what that game will be like by the time it fully releases. There is a lot of room for improvement but the game is already decent in it's state. The nostalgia of FNC will always have people thinking it was a better game, but Undisputed is definitely a 10yr improvement on the boxing genre of gaming.
I noticed camera movement during hard punches maybe they should try a shake effect to make punches seem harder
honestly i kinda like it without shaking, gives it more of a real feel
Yea they should add the option for those who like it. I like when the screen slightly zooms in even on jabs. Makes me feel it more.
For us to be comparing a game that hasn’t came out to a game that came out over 7 or 8 years ago says alot about how great that game was. I was so excited about this game but the game isn’t even close to fight night. Looks to fake punches don’t even land smh
Fight night still looks better after all these years what a tragedy to not have another fight night from EA sports
Let's Go Champ 🥊🥊🔥🙏
Both look great undisputed needs level changes for the body shots and it’ll be really nice
I know the games not finnished but FNC is years old an still looks better overall
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💯, and fight nights visual are are up on you, which makes it look better.
although undisputed has over a decade on fight night, it is also being developed by a small team with a much smaller budget. itll be interesting to do this again once the game has been fully released if that ever happens.
By the time the got it done , EA will already done as well with their new Boxing game. 🤪
They they can’t do it right don’t do it at all. They obviously don’t have the resources to make this game as amazing as it should be. Fight night is a decade old and still holds up better then most fighting games these days.
i like in ndisputed they show us the little footwork animation like when a boxer is dazed and trying to dance to stay woke pretty cool
Finally see why the punching looks so unsatisfying in Undisputed. The camera shake in the direction of punches trajectory coupled with the slight zoom in is why FN's punches look impactful and just feel more satisfying. Sound design as well. There is also the kinetic movement that seems to be a bit more pronounced in the punching in FN as well. The boxer stance seems to be a bit wider in general in FN and that I believe contributes to why the punch movement looks a bit better. Undisputed's ring movement is dope. That is when I feel like I'm looking at the next great thing. They just seem to stiffen up a bit too much when punches are thrown. I also like the fact that Undisputed has that body ripple. That is nice. If they could some how mix a bit of that FN natural muscle flex in......MY GOD. The combination punching in Undisputed looks more fluid and surprisingly more impactful than FN. The moving punches also look better in Undisputed. Blocking is everything FN used to be back when you could parry punches. Knockdowns are a about the same to me. I think Undisputed needs a little bounce when dudes hit the canvas. Not much, but in some falls it looks a bit too flat. Like the fighter fell into a ring made of memory foam. They look kind of gentle, as if they are being layed down. No head bouncing off of the canvas, or limbs for that matter. Cut scenes need work. Undisputed seems bare, and FN is just old but there is more of a "Team" feel to it. This video actually cheered me up a bit on Undisputed. I wasn't as sold as so many others were, but looking at them in a cleaner head to head gave me some hope. Undisputed is truly a nudge away from excellence if a few things can be smoothed out. Great video!
I'm so proud of these independent game devs.
I don’t know why
They need to shake that camera to add that oomph to the punches .
For a early access game, Undisputed has started really well!
I hope they add the corner men and the entourage especially for the victory scene. It’ll make it even more realistic
Undisputed has a lot of room for improvement to perfection.
Camera work, ambient lighting, ambient audio, intros/cutscenes, all appears to be better in fight night. Undisputed has better boxer models and details in graphics (of course since its newer). But it still needs so much work.
Punches is way better in fnc
That's what I thought. Fast, impactful
Does the added zoom on impact make it seem so?
looks better in Fight Night, but it feels so much better in Undisputed
Way better bro, all the flashy flash movement and they screwed up the most important thing..
the problem is with fight night once an input is pressed both fighters are put in a single tied in animation in order to make the gameplay appear somewhat smooth and make the punches appear to land cleaner. couldn't tell before but once it was pointed out to me i can't miss it now. Very arcade like lol
shut yo ahh🤣
Exactly. You nailed it. Arcade is the proper way to define it 100% Undisputed will end up being so much more fluid in the end. It's already miles ahead in this aspect as it sits.
Yup! People are really looking through the stalgia colored glasses. Fight Night Champion is one of my favorite games of all time and even I realize how dated it is compared to Undisputed.
@Mider-Span Man Of course it's dated, only silly people would honestly think that fight night still has groundbreaking mechanics. Truth is, it doesn't, it feels exactly like a 10 year old game. Only thing is we don't have anything else to compare Undisputed with since boxing simulator games have been abandoned for quite some time. Of course Fight Night still looks stunning to casual gamers. Most of them still dont own 4k or 8k displays. People still play on 1080p LOL. For them to even to say FNC still plays better than Undisputed is ridiculous. That couldn't be further from the truth, real ones that have played boxing games for a long time know how refined Undisputed is in terms of fluid boxing animations and physics. I have played all fight nights, knockout kings and everything else boxing simulation related. Never got into those cartoony boxing games like Ready 2 Rumble, way too cheesy for me. This game has the most robust animation in a boxing game.
Undisputed looks good and has a lot of potential. Movement is nice but some of the punch animations look like they stop once they make contact instead of flowing all the way like having a follow through
I hope they can make the entrance cut scene in full until they get in the ring with customise music.
It's worth noting we're comparing this game to a game from ten years and two console generations ago. That's like comparing fight night champion to knock out kings 2001.
Man the soundtrack of Fight Night is next to none
It come down to the sound effects and replays it seem like and maybe teddy on the mic haha
FNC punches seemed more impactful which make the KOs and flash kos look way better in FNC. Itll go on the wishlist for now
My Memory I Champion Is That It was the Perfect Boxing Game, I Been waiting For A New One And When Undisputed Was Announced I was Afraid it wouldn't hold up at all, So Far Looks Promising and Maybe More Realistic
Fight Night was gas, everytime especially when it transition from PS3 to PS4!! 🔥🔥
As far as this demonstration fight night still king. I hope they innovate and make it better
After watching this it seems like not all the animations are bad. But it seems to be robotic when you mix up in footwork and head movement. It also feels slow. Still some work to be done
a major shortcoming is the robes in the cutscenes
Only once comparing it I can see that undisputed is a much better game
One of those games is 15years old goofy...
@@tonycruz5643 yes but until I saw this video I thought champion was the better game in every aspect but this made me see that it’s far worse
@@Thithithi39 you clearly can see fight night is better in terms of gameplay this isn't showing the glitches of undisputed or terrible animations,you have boxers doing splits and getting knocked out without getting hit but that's not in the comparison...
@@tonycruz5643 doing the splits while knocked out is realistic...
Never .
Tutto bello, ma quando esce?
i wonder if adding camera shake would make the punches look more impactful
Undisputed will be huge if they can make a good career mode out of it add a few more boxer and make it little easier to nock out your opponent will fly of the shelves roll on Jan
I'm going to staret a discord server. Let me know if you guys want to be in it. There will be tournaments and belts to win since the regular game doesn't have it. I'm trying to get as many people as possible to sort out the tournaments and then people can be ranked and defend belts.
Bruv this game is ahead of its time💯
Yeah, FNC was, but I only say that bcus it has yet to be bested to this day. Undisputed is going to be a flop. SCI doesn't listen to the community. And they've already made some weird, dumb design decisions.
Undisputed REALLY needs to fix the punch impact. It just looks so strange like there’s no power or impact at all.
I've never seen or realized it was a ref in FN champion 🤔
I see people giving that game hell, but it's the first one out... Give them time... It's a good base to build on
Not every boxer dances like that whenever an opponent is at a hefty distance. I had Rocky Marciano grooving like he was Roy Jones
Y falta una sección, la del daño físico, sangre, cortes, etc...
I know ppl talking bout the punching but in fight night there’s a camera jerk on every punch and in undisputed there isn’t, i think thats what adds to the impact of fight night’s punches
Nah, the whole animation is off with the punch in Undisputed. The person that animated it doesn’t know anything about boxing.
Nope, if you switch from cinematic to sim the shake will be removed and it still looks way better.
@@kevinherronjr3998 in fight night?
@@Cashmere_Gaming yeah bro, it will also help your gameplay. That and the wide camera view
@@kevinherronjr3998 oo ok that’s interesting. Imma play the early access tomorrow but ive been playing fight night champion for awhile now
How does career mode compare?
Things look a little better in undisputed when you are punching a guy standing still. When everything is in motion though and you are actually fighting Fight Night Champion is like 10 times smoother.
I have both and I can't lie undisputed has a lot more work needed to be done, mainly the countering for me. Its like trying to replace fifa not a easy task but hope they can..
If you look at classic Prince Naseem Hamed, he'd crouch low and launch with his powerful legs with some insane unorthodox punches. In this game, if he were in it, he'd be standing bolt upright at all times. Not being negative, I'll be supporting the game, but it needs work.
Fight night champion is the literaly GOAT boxing game.
Been waiting for a new boxing game. Fight night was the bomb
It's like everything in this game is great, besides the punches and knockouts...and those are the 2 most important elements of a boxing game. Idk it has alot of potential but it needs work.
Fight night round 3 is all I want back
As of right now, Fight Night Champion is superior in almost every way, except for how it looks and even then FNC isn't that far behind.
for an early acces looks great
Why is undesputed doesnt have camera shakes when you hit hard
Keep it real Fight Night looks better undisputed graphics looks decent but Fight Nights punches and knockdowns looks more realistic even after all these years in my opinion.
Realistic? In what world my guy… looks nothing like a real fight. Undisputed looks way more simulation than fight night crap
@@gamerd8709 I said undisputed graphics looks decent read it again
@Gamer D undisputed looks extremely stiff, most punches in the video here I've seen of the punches look really stiff. No force behind them at all. Plus the movement
@@phunnymannfromphunnyland exactly very robotic and unrealistic in my opinion
@@gabrielsimbachosenboxing6734 you said fight night looks realistic, and i said in what world does fight night look real. Looks fake as shit
Someone needs to tell them to add the camera shake or emphasis on the punches like fight night
Hell no,.this aint an arcade game.
@@t1000v20 bro wtf are you talking about arcade game? That’s adding emphasis to punches instead of it being completely still makes the game look boring
@@JayJay-sz9ljPlay Ready to Rumble boxing then for sparks and special effects lol. Mike Tyson boxing or whatever. Do you know how distracting camera shake will be while you are playing???
@@t1000v20 so you never played fight night?💀
@@t1000v20 clearly you haven’t maybe you should go check it out the best boxing game ever made
How do I play undisputed?
I know the game isn’t complete yet, but they all move with the agility of Anthony Joshua on undisputed. I’m hoping it will get better.
Once undisputed gets more audio visual feedback, a little better readability (zoom in slightly closer as well) and more cinematic appeal, then the game will have a solid foundation to become one of the best boxing games in history. But right now, it still feels very early access to me.
thats because it is people hate the game because they feel like the devs put no effort into the game when it is still in early access and not fully developed
Fight night punches look more fluid and real