NBA Media GETS EXPOSED For Lying About Kobe Bryant

It’s more than just that bruh give him his respect that shit so irritating that people say we overrate him cus he died as if kobe wasn’t good at all

@@glizzygangpuncho1501 clear as day who was team leader and best player during the redeem team. (as well as during the nba season prior to that). Not even the media could deny he was the clear alpha for that team.

I have absolutely zero respect for these sport analyst. Their facts are based on their personal opinions west coast writers hate the Lakers.

I watch the 10 min compilation of him missing shots in the clutch or possible game winners while 3 teammates are open nearly every single time that happend so no actually I remember here and there how overrated kobe actually was when you're not emotional about it.

@@KleinSchalker maybe you should watch how he moved around court, how he was the most fundamentally sound player you have ever seen. how he was the team leader of the redeem team. how he took control during the moments shaq faltered during the 3-peat. how when given a minimum of help with gasol and odom he become champion twice. how he was the most lethal scorer of his generation. Was he inefficient at times (especially when he did not trust his teammates), sure. was he a bit cocky, definitely. did he make mistakes during his career. absolutely. doesn't change that once shaq deteriorated he became the best player in the nba and remained the best player in the nba until lebron matured on the miami heat. revisionist want to overrate duncan over kobe. But during their careers that mostly overlapped. kobe was usually the better player.

Let it be known, I’m troublesome

Well I've said he's overrated since he was alive soooo... Idk bout that. I'm not saying he is egregiously overrated but he's more like 11/12 not 3 or 4 where I see many of his fans rate him

@@Andrew-ms8md lol as long as he’s rated higher than lebron, idc where you rate him 😂

@Andrew-ms8md I'm a kobe fan I got him 9th all time I got Tim Duncan over him but you can argue kobe better

Fuck yeah!

Lebron is better than Kobe in every facet of basketball except for shooting. When you have to resort to things like ‘killer instinct’ and ‘mentality’, you have no argument.

@@gggyy7104 When you have to resort to things like “longevity” you have no argument. Which is all Bron fans ever fucking talk about. Kobe had a better overall career than LeBron in almost every way I can possibly think of. Higher highs, more clutch moments, more carries, more playoff game-winners. LeBron sucked until he had multiple superstars carrying him to Finals appearances 😂 Kobe took G-league starting 5’s to the playoffs in the years he didn’t play with Shaq and Gasol. The Lakers had nobody besides Kobe for YEARS and didn’t draft well at all and he STILL has more rings than LeBron WITHOUT SUPERTEAM HOPPING 😂 I’d bet anything you’re 20 or younger.

@@gggyy7104what about winning?

@@erroneouse1929 Lebron won more as the main guy

@@gggyy7104 hahahahahahahaha! Lebron won more as the MAIN guy. That's funny. Was he the main guy when he scored 7 points in that finals game? Was he the main guy when he clunked that 3 and ray allen saved that finals series for him? Was he the main guy when he took the raptors best player and joined him on the heat along with their best player? Was he the main guy when old-folks home Mavericks team destroyed him in the finals? No one his size was even guarding him that series! He had bosh and wade and his huge self and lost to a team of nearly retired players. What about when that spurs team absolutely DESTROYED them in that other finals series. When he lost multiple times by huge margins. What about when Kyrie hit clutch 4th quarters 3s that saved him inn those games against GSW? Was he the main guy there too? The list is freaking endless man. What about his many many flops in the playoffs? Literally flops where NO ONE touches him. Just a straight LIAR to go along with everything else. The only reason he is put as high as he is is because the media pushes enough dumb nonsense to the younger generations hoping everyone that remembers will eventually just die out.

So you was there when he got away with rape???

Dont count 2011 imo :D He dissapeared that year.

Kobe was by far the most feared player for several years during that span. Now all of a sudden he wasn't.

He was the best from 2003-2010.

​@@HadeyanUtkanironic😊

That’s exactly why they don’t have players vote for season awards, because of of stupidity like this, in what way is Kobe better than Lebron? Lebron literally beats Kobe in every statistical category except for free throw shooting percentage. Lebron also has more individual accolades than Kobe, he has more mvps, more finals mvps, more all nba selections, more all star selections. I never heard of a convincing argument for Kobe being better than LeBron other than “Kobe has better footwork” or some stupid sh*t like that.

​@@jaydot4956literally

@jaydot4956 First off the dude in this video never said kobe was better all-time he said kobe had better dribbling better mid range shooting and was better in the clutch the lebron dude said he wasn't better in nothing but free throws and that isn't true

Jordan, absolutely they do👌

@BoxingisgoatedBoxingisgo-sy7jy But the narrator is trying to make you think Kobe is better all-time by his articulation with these few statistics. I love Kobe, but this guy just hates on Lebron too much for me to respect him.

It was the wild wild west fr. Most of the greatest players were in the west. Which is why for me, LeBron going to the finals every year is impressive but not as much as it should be being as though he wasn't going through any of the best players to get there most of the time

@@marclawrence2457 On top of that, LeBron often had the best players on his own team, which is part of the reason the east was so weak. So with Derrick Rose being injury plagued, Boston aging out of relevance, Dwight Howard leaving Orlando, and Carmelo's Knicks falling apart as soon as they became good, the east was just pitifully weak for many years after LeBron formed his Miami superteam.

@@megavolt67 all absolute facts. In the east you only needed one superstar to get you there but you weren't winning unless you had multiple guys or you were the 04 pistons I think was the year

@@marclawrence2457People keep talking about LeBron making the Finals in ‘07 but leave out or just don’t know that the top 3 teams were all out west. First seed in the east had the 4th best record in the league

Right I forgot the magic made the finals in the east … that’s how easy the east was when lebron was there and still couldn’t get over the hump smh

Super facts

Kobe's footwork was miles above the competition. I learned so much from watching him go through his shooting motions in isolation...

People still mess with rocks?

Mike the GOAT.. Kobe the BOAT..u figure it out

Much respect to you for this comment. Most rational people can come to that conclusion after the great is gone.

Owned? He was Shaq's sidekick and shot 38% (fg) and 17% (3 ptr) in the 2004 NBA finals loss to Detroit. The Lakers were stacked and he single handedly shot them out of the series in what should have been an easy win.

Has nothing to do with 'owning a team' or jealousy whatsoever. People get annoyed by these unjust accolades. He could never do a damn thing without coattailing elite bigs in his career.

@@BossItUp911 That’s a myth Kobe had a bad shooting series but the team had zero chemistry basically all hated each other and here’s the Lakers 3-6 leading scorers behind Shaq/Kobe DFisch 3Rd at 6PPG 30% DGeorge 5PPG 37% GPayton 5PPG 33% KMalone 4PPG Kobe shot them out of 1 game that was game 4 other then that was 3 Blowout loses and the only game Lakers won Kobe won it single handily w his only great game of the series

​@DecemberSkyfire he coattailed pau to 2 championships really. Your comment is laughable. Also name a player that would have been Finals mvp during the 3peat over shaq.

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Yeah because he was gonna sue them

You may be on to something there. They protected Jordan that time by not allowing CP3 to go to LA. Then they protected Jordan again by allowing KD, a Prime MVP to join a 73 wi n team to have a chance at beating THE GREATEST PLAYER TO EVER PLAY THE GAME in LeBron James. Imagine if There was a player doing great things and getting close to LeBron numbers and James Jones, a good friend to LeBron was the coach and they went and got a Prime MVP to beat that player going forward, people would lose their minds saying that LeBron had his friend get that player to protect his Legacy. I wonder why that isn't being said about Kerr. REAL HATE IN THE GAME.

@@cashmerej9665 protcted Jordan? you mean leflop who concocted a plan with wade to stop kobe. imagine playing for 20 years and only 3 1/2 rings to show for it. over hyped over rated avg skill player

@@cashmerej9665 when you choked a 73-9 wins and 3-1 lead you are not the greatest team ever. just LUCK and reg season is diff from the playoffs

They always seem to leave out Chris Bosh, Dwayne wade, Kyrie, Kevin love, Anthony Davis, and some great roles players

@@rta23cerberus The only guy worthy of mention is Dwade. Bosh never made it out of the 1st round in Toronto making the playoffs 2x in a long career there. Kyrie has won NOTHING, ANYWHERE except with LBJ. Kevin Love also never won a playoff series in Minnesota, was hurt in 2015 and in the 2016 finals averaged 8 & 7. Lastly AD, won a playoff series 1 time for NOLA. He has been healthy for 1 season, which wouldnt you know it, was their championship in 2020. Context matters MJ glazers and stans

@@rta23cerberusWipe yo mouth

Hey, I hear your argument, but you still don't get it.....LeBron wasn't collecting stars to do what other so-called great players didn't do, LeBron was and is THAT GREAT that he never picked LOTTERY for 3-5 years like them. He was in Cleveland! Have you ever been? In LA, Chicago and Miami are places anyone would love to play ball. All these great players as great as they were and ae picked LOTTERY! Shaq got the #1 next year, MJ picked Lottery 4 years in a row, Kobe got Shaq and Phil, Durant picked Lottery 4X, Steph picked 4 years in the Lottery. Those are Super Teams! All those LOTTERY picks and they somehow had a better team than LeBron. How was he supposed to compete due to him being SO GREAT? Sit back and think about this...LeBron is the ONLY PLAYER TO LEAD A TEAM TO THE FINALS without any Hall of Famer, All Star or Great coach. Every other great never made the playoffs with a winning record or never made it. Let that sink in. MJ lost to The Celtics with 3 HoFers on it, with Bird being the only good one. LeBron has taken the Celtics to 6 and 7 games respectfully by himself in the 2nd and 3rd round of the Finals going against all UPPER TIER HoFers, KG-MVP, Truth, ATL scorer of The Celtics and Ray Gun, The greatest Clutch shooter in league history. MJ was swept by pink dudes in the 1st round and he became infamous behind it. Make that make sense!

​@rta23cerberus same can be said about Jordan fans

Might have started when he got away with sexual assault

@@BlackPanther-nv2dy naw, nobody believed any of that. Just pieces of garbage looking to slander Kobe and cant find anything legitimate to do it with. You know, real pathetic people.

You hated him because he blasted your team

There were other players to root for if not him cause the era was too loaded. Nowadays we got role players getting franchise player level money. Everyone sucks now.

@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD magic never stood a chance

@@manekinder Lakers also stole shq from y'all and he never got a ring for y'all, event d Howard came to the Lakers and won a Ring

Facts bro

No love for Jimmy Butler?

1 MVP in his career and 3 of his ring's are Shaq's. Yawn

@@phillyphan1346 Shaq also only has 1 MVP. Does Shaq win those rings without Kobe? Kobe won 2 rings without Shaq and Shaq only won 1 ring without Kobe and was carried by the 3rd greatest SG ever.

@@emmanuelmondesir Jimmy Butler is a great player, but he's inconsistent at times.

@@vineelkesavarapu5736 Shaq won all 3 Finals MVP's when playing with Kobe. It really is not debatable whose team the Lakers were when they played.

Facts! 💯

Facts

Good point because you never hear LeBron say anything about the disrespect. AI, Stephen Jackson and others on pods and interviews be stopping interviews to stop Kobe hate but LeBron only talks about he great his self is lol

@@asundelgun3487 lol exactly he only knows how to pat himself on the back, The only time I’ve seen him go at the media was when they were criticizing him but dude is mute when it comes to his rivals or teammates.

MJ vs Kobe wasn't a debate, sadly, after Kobe got hurt. When it was clear he would not win a 2nd MVP (even though I think he should have gotten 3 anyway) or a 6th ring, and he would not fare well in his last seasons. The GOAT debate can still be had with Kareem, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Magic. It isn't limited to Jordan vs LeBron.

Preach! 🙌

Speakin the truth

These days, whomever controls the current narrative wins. No facts, just biased ignorance & hatred.

Hey, I hear your argument, but you still don't get it.....LeBron wasn't collecting stars to do what other so-called great players didn't do, LeBron was and is THAT GREAT that he never picked LOTTERY for 3-5 years like them. He was in Cleveland! Have you ever been? In LA, Chicago and Miami are places anyone would love to play ball. All these great players as great as they were and ae picked LOTTERY! Shaq got the #1 next year, MJ picked Lottery 4 years in a row, Kobe got Shaq and Phil, Durant picked Lottery 4X, Steph picked 4 years in the Lottery. Those are Super Teams! All those LOTTERY picks and they somehow had a better team than LeBron. How was he supposed to compete due to him being SO GREAT? Sit back and think about this...LeBron is the ONLY PLAYER TO LEAD A TEAM TO THE FINALS without any Hall of Famer, All Star or Great coach. Every other great never made the playoffs with a winning record or never made it. Let that sink in. MJ lost to The Celtics with 3 HoFers on it, with Bird being the only good one. LeBron has taken the Celtics to 6 and 7 games respectfully by himself in the 2nd and 3rd round of the Finals going against all UPPER TIER HoFers, KG-MVP, Truth, ATL scorer of The Celtics and Ray Gun, The greatest Clutch shooter in league history. MJ was swept by pink dudes in the 1st round and he became infamous behind it. Make that make sense!

Colin use to have Kobe on his radio show back in mid 00s he was riding Kobe nuts then

Funny how Bronsexuals NEVER have a counter to Chael Sonnens HGH and EPO steroid, performance enhancing drug claims 😂😂😂 Kobe is WAYYYY better than LeExcuses

How can someone be 10x better than another player, if they are worse in literally every single category of the game except shooting?

@gggyy7104 He also beats him in Finals wins though

@@ratman5106 True but I mean like as individual players

@@gggyy7104that’s what I’m saying 😂, Lebron literally beats Kobe in every statistical category except for free throw shooting percentage, also Kobe was a better mid range shooter but Lebron was a better 3 point shooter for his career.

HOW is that even possible..he barely made the play-offs in 2006 and in 2007 ahahahha and in 2009 and 2010 he wasnt even the best player on his team... oh you think best player is the one who shoots more...

@onlyfacts3178 Gasol couldn't even average 20 points, while being a significantly inferior defender to Kobe who was a Shooting Guard in 09 and 10. The idea that Kobe wasn't the best on his team in 09 and 10 is hilarious. But hey man, stay delusional 😂

​@Mrballerize nah you annoying kobe fans who think. A player who missed the most shots ever and shot 44% for his career is goat worthy is just crazy😊

@@BlackPanther-nv2dy 1. I don't think Kobe is the GOAT, as I have Michael Jordan as the GOAT. 2. The myth that Kobe was inefficient in scoring is hilarious. Kobe literally has 55% career True Shooting percentage, which is on par with Tim Duncan, and better than Kevin Garnett; two players that we will never call inefficient.

⁠@@BlackPanther-nv2dywhat will you say when Lebron passes Kobe for most career missed shots all time? Because it looks like that will happen if he plays the next 2 seasons. Maybe even next year if he keeps his current 22.2 attempts per game and plays at least 55 games like he did this past year. He would’ve done it this year had he not gotten injured. He’s also the all time leader in turnovers, but no one would say that Lebron is a bad ball handler. Y’all use these longevity stats all wrong. You play 20 years as a volume scorer, you’re bound to miss some shots.

It's a team game not individual my boy

​@@wood-kellymonfils6110team game and individual game too, you dont win without Allstars in a championship team.

​@@kevinp6886tell that to the pistons that beat kobe in 04

​@@Rambo20244he was terrible that series

Yeah but Kobe shot 44 pct which is meh

This all while playing in a loaded west with HOF everywhere

Have y'all forgotten how Kobe struggled after Shaq got traded??

@@chrisyoung1720 look at his teammates when he struggled and get back to me. Nothing but scrubs. Without him they get the best odds for the top pick

@ikristian13d20 There have been other great players who did more with thisless talent, excuses you make

@@chrisyoung1720How many titles has Shaq led his team to without Kobe

Facts

Kobe was my favourite player and I watched all his playoffs games and many of his greatest regular season games, still I don't have him in my top 5 and it's not a matter of disrespect. In my opinion he is clearly below Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Magic and Bird. Then I also put Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain above him, but it's obviously difficult to compare them. I have him after Tim Duncan, at 9 all-time, just before Shaq and Hakeem (my 2nd favorite all-time player to watch). It's not useful to deal in superlatives when we're talking about all-time greats and you don't need to attack someone or to belittle a player to put another one on a pedestal. Of these players I named for my top 11, Kobe might be the one with the more "normal" physical attributes and therefore the one we sympathize with the most. Plus he was way more elegant with the ball in his hands than LeBron, to me. Lastly, he died a young superstar, a dad beloved byhis daughters, alongside one of them, and his tragic loss makes him that much more valuable in our eyes. Still, I do not rank him top 5 ever.

@@IrfanhillI can understand where you are coming from but for me I have Kobe at the third best player. The eye test, the mamba mentality and never sitting out for games even when he is injured. 1 MJ 2 Kareem 3 Kobe 4 Magic 5 Bird 6 Shaq 7 TD 8 Lebron 9 Hakeem Olajuwon 10 Oscar Robertson

I watched him, I'd say he's top 5 greatest ever, but not best.

​@@claude2732that's a list I can respect

Black logic 🤣🤣🤣

It didn’t help that the Lakers had a lot of locker room fighting and they got upset by the Detroit Pistons in the NBA Finals. Shortly after Phil Jackson quit as head coach too. Shaq got traded from the Lakers and Shaq heavily criticized Kobe. Back in 2004, Shaq was a significantly bigger star than Kobe too.

"best player in the league for the next several years by a long way"...I like Kobe but that is bullshit

@@opinionsandfaxc Kobe who dropped 81 during this period. Avg 34/gm one season and dropped 50 pts in 4 straight games playing with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown bro. Yeah he was the best player in the universe by far, not Steve Nash.

@@infiniteuniverse9528 that's one season lmfaoo and smush Parker wasn't even bad for a role player he averaged more than 11ppg from 2005 to 2007 unfortunately Kobe treated him like ass and instead of doing simple research everyone in the media just went with it and harassed him cause whatever kob said sometimes was treated like the gospel. and Kwame brown wasn't a scorer either it's easier for someone to score if everyone around him can't score and he takes most the shots..if he had Melo on his team he wouldn't have averaged more than 30 or even 25

@@opinionsandfaxc Kwame was a #1 overall draft pick and a total bust. Kobe did not join up with Kyrie, Bosh, Wade, Love, Davis and Allen to take short cuts like LeBron did. Instead he stayed in LA to prove he could win titles without Shaq.

Tim Duncan was better for the first 10ish years of their rivalry and when Kobe was better than Tim (even that is not necessarily true), Lebron was better than Kobe. Kobe was never the undisputed best player in the league. If he's not better than Timmy then he's not higher than 8 all time. Now I do think Kobe gets way too much hate because he's still one of the greatest ever.

@@stevenmontoya7275 exactly kobe stans are trying to rewrite history

@@eyeconqueror1185 your mom is tryna rewrite the history of her body count…

Tim Duncan was never considered the goat but Kobe was and still is TIM DUNCAN TRASH SYSTEM PLAYER THATS IT NOTHING SPECIAL AND NEVER 3peat or 2 peat. BUT KOBE DID😂 CARRIED BY A YOUNG Kawhi Leonard😂😂😂😂😂

@@ripbbrazy2207 bros crying about people not giving kobe credit then slanders tim duncan you are the reason peoplee hate kobe fans

Kobe was great!!!!

Two of three centers in the entire league were in his starting lineup with the sixth man of the year.

@@keithjoseph128 Two of three centers in the league for the lakers? so you think Gasol and Bynum were in the top three? why are you over exaggerating the Lakers centers bro? Gasol (an argument can be made for him being in the top 5) nor Bynum were better than Dwight Howard, Tim Duncan, Al Jefferson, Chris Bosh or Yao Ming during that time, and I'm willing to argue that Andrew Bogut and Al Horford were just as good if not slightly better than Bynum during that stretch. also, Odam won the sixth-man award in 2011.

@@sdb7092 first off you're mixing up your years with the two centers you named, considering one was retired and one missed most of those each of those seasons. Then you prove my point by throwing in PFs who could play center because the league WAS that pathetic at that position. So that leaves the guy with zero offensive game who you brought up. That makes two of three, not just on the same team but I. The same starting lineup. What next? Kobe was clutch?

@@keithjoseph128 "first off you're mixing up your years with the two centers you named, considering one was retired and one missed most of those each of those seasons. " Who was retired and who missed most of those season pleas elaborate. if you are talking about Yao? he retired in 2011. and in 2008 he played 55 games and 77 in 2009 season, he missed the entirety of the 2010 season due to injury, but had he played he still be the better center than Gasol and Bynum. also, I find it very hypocritical that you have an issue with games other centers played when Bynum during those three seasons played 35 games in 08, 50 in 09 and 65 in 2010. so, by your own logic... why are you claiming he's a top 3 when he missed so many games in those three seasons? "Then you prove my point by throwing in PFs who could play center because the league WAS that pathetic at that position." How does this prove your point if they are playing better at the center position than natural centers? whether they are natural center or not they played the position well enough... and better than both Bynum and Gasol. btw, Gasol has played just as many seasons as a PF than he has at center. so, let's not pretend like those two positions aren't interchangeable. "So that leaves the guy with zero offensive game who you brought up. That makes two of three, not just on the same team but I. The same starting lineup. What next? Kobe was clutch?" Like I said, this is a silly argument, because whether the player was a PF at some time in their career is irrelevant because at that point in time they were playing the center position therefore they were CENTERS. again, let's not be ignorant and pretend like players positions don't change based on either the team needs... or the player age. Jordan was a SG for most of his career. but when he came back with the Wizards he was moved to the SF position. same with Tim Ducan and so many other players. it's part of the game. so, your point here is moot.

@@keithjoseph128 Games played from 08-10 seasons. Dwight Howard 82/79/82 games. Tim Duncan 78/75/77 games. Al Harford 81/67/81 games. Al Jefferson 82/50/76 games. Chris Bosh 67/77/70 games. Pau Gasol 66/81/65 games Andrew Bogut 78/36/69 games. Andrew Bynum 35/50/65 games. Yao Ming 55/77/00 games. as you can see, outside of Yao, every other center played more games per season than Bynum during that stretch. so why is this an issue for the other centers but not Bynum? also, Yao was an all-star/all-nba in the 08-09 seasons and would have continued his dominance had he not hurt his foot. also. Yao retired in 2011... so, if anyone has mixed up years, it's you.

Weren't those the years he admitted he couldn't make his team's and teammates better?

not even the best on his TEAM ahahahha and those are FACTS that KOBE fans dont want to understand...

@@onlyfacts3178 4-6 swept 2x in the finials joined Miami superteam to win not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5 not 6 not 7 owned by (curry/kd/ Dirk/Duncan/Kawhi/Jokic) honorable mentions Dwight Howard/Paul Pierce

@@ripbbrazy2207 And Kobe got swept 3 times and never one without a good big man

@@onlyfacts3178 really bad troll right here. Try better next time.

@@jesper3315 kobe fans saying the typical things ahahahah

How did Kobe get robbed in 2009? Lebrons team won 66 games and Lebron had better overall numbers than Kobe that year.

@@jaydot4956 Kobe’s team had 65 wins and for the reasons I explained already. Kobe was robbed.

shaq and Kobe needed each other..and you don't have to score 20ppg to be considered good..Gasol led in win shares for the lakers from 2008-09 season all the way through 2013 and KOBE HIMSELF admitted without Pau the lakers don't end up with anything in 2009 or 2010...and Kobe was not a lock down defender..he was a good one but not lock down..and lakers actually were either worse or negligibly better at defense when Kobe was on the floor...but they both needed each other...and shaq wasn't lazy Kobe just worked out a lot more...shaq also had fun in other ways

Penny and Shaq would have won if if they stayed together and Penny never got hurt

@@christiansoldier77 Bronsexuals LOVE hypotheticals. It's ALWAYS: "Would've, should've, couldve..." _insert excuse here_ How old was Penny when he played with Shaq? 21 How old when Kobe WON A RING with Shaq? 21 What's Penny's excuse? First Finals they were in, they won. How come Shaq couldn't "carry," Penny? How come Shaq couldn't "carry," Eddie Jones and Nick The Quick Van Axel? 😂🤫 Now I know why you're a fan of LeExcuses James 😂.

@@christiansoldier77 P.S. Penny was ALWAYS injury prone. So your entire premise is fallacious to begin with. It's like arguing Len Bias would've been better than MJ if he didn't die of a Coke overdose 🙄

@@opinionsandfaxc You can't be serious. What is this pseudointellectual drivel? 😂 Einstein, how are win shares computed? What do they purport to measure? Does the thing WS purports to measure accurately measure that thing? Can we find several counterexamples of players with higher Win Shares but who clearly weren't the driving force of the ACTUAL WINS? How precisely does WS accurately measure DEFENSE which, we all agree, is 50% of the game? Lest you expose yourself as a pseudointellectual Kobe Hater grasping at a modicum of "advanced analytics" to prove that Kobe is, somehow, overrated despite 5 rings with widely different supporting casts, you're going to have to disabuse me of the aforementioned counterpoints. You won't succeed. How did Pau do before AND after Kobe? What did Pau do when the Lakers lost Kobe to his achilles injury that season, which, if I remember correctly, was still "Prime" Pau? What did Pau do before Kobe? (SAME EXACT player on the Grizzlies just on a different team). Oh, that's right, Pau couldn't win a single PLAYOFF GAME let alone series. How many ALL NBA Defense Teams has Pau made? That's right ZERO. Pau could've been replaced with Zach Randolph (who, since you have a penchant for statistical fetishization, actually had a better rebound rate than Pau in his prime), and the results would've been the EXACT same. Give Kobe prime LaMarcus Aldridge (who, last time I checked, actually put up more 40 point games than Pau did when they were in the NBA together), and he wins 2 rings. And then people like you could invoke PER, or VORP, or some other algorithm, that supported your pre-existing biases. Joel Embid is top 4 ALL TIME in PER so therefore Joel Embid is a top 4 all time player. Since you're effectively using decontextualized stats like that to assert your point, you should agree with that proposition (you know, since Pau led in win shares). Oh wait, there are bums with higher VORP and PER and Win Shares than consensus legends, NO WAYYYYYYYY!!!! "There are three types of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." - Mark Twain Kobe is the GOAT imo. And I don't need Win Shares to tell me that. If stats are the ultimate arbiter, Wilt IS the GOAT and, frankly, it's not even close (and they didn't even count blocks and steals back in the day lmao). Peace.

Tim Duncan bum ass was on that team too Iverson too If Kobe or KG was on that team they would have brough gold home

Kobe was only the best from 06-10. Could argue he wasn’t even the best on his team from 01-04.

giving Kobe all the credit for the 2008 team is bs...and Lebron wade and melo were literally rookies lmfaoo

@@opinionsandfaxc I Agree but acting like Iverson and Tim Duncan weren't on that team is not fair to the Lebrons and Kobe why Tim get let off the hook so easy he really not cut like that when Pop not coaching him

I'm so tired of ESPN disrespecting me he man my god it's unreal at this point

I think he's top 15 now. Kareem mj lebron wilt bill magic tim bird shaq oscar olajuwan zeke kobe kd karl

He’s barely top 15 wipe yo knees

@@rcdoubleuLebron is not a top 5 player

"would've been tied 2-2" doesn't mean it would've been over...and Kobe got traded to the lakers lmfaoo ...and "numbers don't always tell the whole story" but you would use numbers for your argument to prove Kobe taking over game 4 in 2000 finals which is contradictory

Facts! 💯 It is very disgusting to know LeFakeKing would stoop that low to fund his own media just to keep pushing his "GoAtZ" narrative. It's even more disgusting that even if his LeFake's bronsexuals knew about this fact, they are so deeply brainwashed they still follow that BS narrative even up to this very day! A lot of us also know that those are fake tears when he "found" out Mamba died. A lot of already know its a lot deeper than what is being said on the surface. Fake King and his fake kingdom.

Honestly he was the best from 2001 to 2013 (Shaq was a fourth quarter liability)

@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 yeah

What a horrendous take

@@jasonmoukala8909 I dropped facts on your face

@@hakeemolajuwon4352 none of this is facts

@@jasonmoukala8909 It's all 100% factual. LeBron barely scored 1,590 points last year, but casuals like you think he legitimately avg 29ppg

he hit 10 game winning shots in the season because he was the only one shooting them lmaoo...he missed the overwhelming majority of them...he was 7-28 in game winning or tying shots with 24 sec or less left

@@opinionsandfaxc Kobe is the clutchest player In NBA history. Kobe is the goat 🐐🐐🐐

1 they're highlights. 2. LeBron got hit atleast as much as kobe did. cant forget they played in the same era from 03' -13. 3. he flops to manipulate refs. it's apart of the game more so now than ever perhaps yet that's the league not just him. 4. even with flopping LeBron has been one of the most physical innthe league.

your talking about team accomplishment and the highlights only. if you want to uuse that as a metric the goat conversation should include more Russell, Tim, and magic what's about those 5x the Lakers missed the playoffs on kobe watch? I know he was hurt for 1 but the others?? what about mj teams not being over .500 5x? I know he was hurt 1x but the others?? LeBron's missed playoffs and .500 3x. 1x as a rookie and 2x injury.

Goofy talking about team success💀✌️

Mj teams have made the playoffs with losing records

@@jaylenflanagan1295 mj and Kobe better than lebron

@@rcdoubleu lebron FAILED both Cleveland and LA. Kobe better than lebron

He WAS BETTER than Shaq in 2001!!!!!

Who has the most missed shots ever? Show the percentage

@@BlackPanther-nv2dy LeBron has the most missed shots ever

​@@BlackPanther-nv2dyLebron has the most TURNOVERS EVER which is FAR WORSE than a missed shot. Why isn't that included in "efficiency?" Clowns.

⁠​⁠@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270The difference is Lebron is 4th in assists and 1st in turnovers whereas Kobe is 1st in missed shots yet is only 7th in made shots. Lebron has a higher assist to turnover ratio than Kobe so your argument doesn’t work

​@@gggyy7104These people want it both ways 😂😂😂

Accept LeBron is it overall better player. We need stop over hyping this man

@@cesarcastrojr4903LOL that's what happens when you've been dominating the ball running your own offense throughout your entire career. And what have those "overall stats" produced, 4 chips in 20 years??? 😂

@@VforVengeance1594 rings and almost all all-time stats taken by him

​@@AllBetzOffBron is CRIMINALLY OVERRATED. Shoots 36% outside of 3 feet. He is MADDENINGLY INEFFICIENT AS A SCORER OUTSIDE OF 3 FEET. Fact. Overrated.

​@@cesarcastrojr4903😂😂😂😂 BRON shoots BELOW 36% from the field on ALL shots outside of 3 feet from the rim. Atrocious. And it got exposed in ALL his Finals losses. Lebron for the FINALS shoots 30% in the 4th quarter when he cant get bailed out by refs on bully ball drives to the rim. 😂😂😂 Why doesn't he have more rings? LeExcuses in 3...2...1. And dont be dumb and bring up Robert Horry 😂😂😂

Everyone knows lebron was ducking Kobe in 2009 so his image as the next great wouldn’t get ruined. He knew Kobe would’ve beaten and exposed him as the incomplete inferior player in comparison to him. So lebron gave up and got smoked by the Magics. Then Kobe beat that same team in the next round without a superteam or top 75 player…

@@stephordless8876and did the same the very next year against Boston for his get back

@@mr3inkredible509 facts

😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣

Or maybe cause he got away with rape

Kobe was the best from 2001 to 2013, according to NBA GMS who were polled during that period. On the annual "Which Player in the NBA Do You Fear The Most?" Kobe was the #1 choice amongst 32 GMs from 2001 to 2013! FACT.

@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 I'm not completely in disagreement I'm just showing you the years where to me he was the unquestioned best player. No doubts and no contest

He was alot older but yea lets ignore that

@@arizonaFIREenthe wasn’t successful before that either he had Penny Hardaway

​@@arizonaFIREentmans got swept in the playoffs in Orlando like 4 times

@@arizonaFIREent Shaq ain't shit without Kobe

1v1 Yup, but in team basketball ? Nope, and NBA Basketball is a team sport, you have 4 other guys with you in your team 🙂

@@dynamic6645 Kobe better team player than lebron to

@@KingTaylor-pl2el That's huge cap...

Kobe wasn't treated this way before he died smh

Kobe wasn't treated this way before he died smh

????? SO when did he pass SHAQ????

Irrational Bronsexual fam spotted 😂😂

How was he a better shooter, when he has the most missed shots ever and a 44% career shooting percentage

​@@BlackPanther-nv2dy45% is the field goal percentage not shooting percentage. Field goals include dunks and layups which is not shooting. Kobe was a better midrange shooter He shot 43% from 10-16 feet and 40.2% from 16 feet-3pt line. Lebron shot 36.7% from 10-16 feet and 38.6% from 16 feet-3pt line. Kobe was also a much better free throw shooter. Kobe shot 84%from the free throw line, while Lebron only 73.5%. From the 3pt line their shooting percentage is the same in the playoffs so overall Kobe was a better shooter

@@emil2683 kobe career shooting percentage is 44% you can try an create new math to make feel better. However the books got 44%

​@@BlackPanther-nv2dyAndre Drummond(54%) has a HIGHER CAREER FG% than Lebron James (50%). So by your logic he's a better scorer and shooter than Lebron? 😂😂😂😂😂 Therefore, according to psuedointellectuals who say silly things like "stats don't lie," Andre Drummon is a more EFFICIENT player and scorer than Lebron James. See, Bronsexuals, anybody can use stats to create, within reason, ANY narrative they want. Andre Drummond > Lebron because he shoots a higher Career FG%. See how DUMB you pseudointellectual clowns look when you deploy statistical reductionism without ANY consideration for the various strengths and weaknesses of the very stats you call to your aid? Do you understand the strengths and weaknesses of various algorithms like VORP, Box +/-, PER, or even basic rate stats like Defensive Rebounds (which tell you nothing about what percentage of them were contested defensive rebounds vs UNCONTESTED defensive rebounds)? 😂😂😂 Kobe > Lebron

​@@BlackPanther-nv2dyAndre Drummond ACCORDING TO YOUR LOGIC is a better scorer than LEBRON James because Drummond shoots 54% to Brons 50%. Got it. 😂😂😂😂 Bronsexuals cant use logic. Oh and let's not talk about the NBA LEADER in TURNOVERS 😂😂😂😂, way worse than a missed shot.