This is it. I've been trying to dodge it for a long time now, but it's time to take an in-depth look at how Luke's character was completely butchered by Rian Johnson when he wrote The Last Jedi.
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Luke deserved better, Han deserved better, Star Wars deserved better, and me a million + other nerds deserved better.
Aye, we did indeed.
I was never a huge Star Wars fan but yeah- you just can't beat the original trilogy. All the newer movies have been let downs.
At least Han was killed before they could ruin his character as well.
Of course, but Disney doesnt have to make an effort for the nerds, they just wanna make sure they can sell stuff to more people. Disney is a company with shareholders, optimizing everything for the best quarter revenues. The movie still made more than a billion, and they made a fortune in licensing and toys (btw, it's easier to sell a Rey figurine than a old Luke Skywalker figurine...)
And the twat who directed TLJ can't take fucking criticism and had been told by Mark fucking hammil that he had written Luke wrong
Luke throwing away his own weapon for a cheap laugh summarises the entire sequal trilogy for me.
A joke you can’t even laugh at
It’s just proof that wasn’t the Luke and this whole series was fake. The Luke we know from the prequels wouldn’t have done that. Proving this is not canon.
It's something you'd have expected to see in a Robot Chicken episode
There's a huge possibility that they only decided to ruin Star Wars on purpose. Lately, in video games as in movies, the only thing they care about is having a woman as first character and show how strong she is. Also bring some more SJW stuff and that's it.
@@sebastienj.c.218 like rey in the movies, if you want strong female character, use ashokha.
I’m sorry, I agree with you about Luke but not Han. They assassinated him too. He became a deadbeat dad and husband who receded back into his smuggler ways rather than maintaining how he developed as a character in the OT. All the original characters are outshined by Rey being inexplicably perfect at everything. Just awful
Agreed. Han still has more fun than Luke though. Which isn't saying much.
I seem to recall a certain "General Solo" in ROTJ. What the hell happened?
I agree with you. A least Han got to have a great adventure and some funny moments. But the idea of him abandoning everything he loved dearly (especially Leia) and returning to smuggling? We watched his character grow from a cocky, self-centred smuggler who only looked out for himself (and maybe Chewie), to a man willing to give his life to help his friends and do what was right. In the swipe of a pen, they erased all of that wonderful character development from the original trilogy. I blame it on very lazy writing, The Force Awakens is just a recycled retread of the first Start Wars film.
It's unfortunate to see Han regress back to his rogue lifestyle, but at least I can believe it's Han. There's no way that cynical, paranoid bum we see in the Last Jedi is Luke Skywalker.
To see Han Solo as a father suffering from loosing his son to the one thing his best friend swore to defeat would’ve been a compelling acting for Harrison Ford and the audience! Star Wars is dead…
Years later, still sad about this. Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy still have careers is unbelievable
I include myself in this statement, but we need to learn to vote with our wallets, I'm only gonna pirate the next star wars properties
@@lightningmonky7674 don't even bother. Why put yourself through that torture?
@@trevorthornley8835 i hear you man, I actually abstained from watching the Ashoka series, it looked so low budget and it was obvious from the clips I've seen they were trying to fill in as much dead air as possible due to the writer strike at the time, so they took the lazy way out instead of paying their writers their actual worth. And to be honest the future star wars shows/movies aren't looking that mind blowing either, so I may take your advice
@@lightningmonky7674 that's the best way to describe these shows and movies. It's just killing time.
Even Mark Hamill himself said he hated this version of Luke Skywalker.
Hes also contradicted himself dozens of times.
But I really hope your right
And it's all in the script, including the butthurt fanboy's angry reaction.
@@duderama6750 You mean how all of this is being used as a distraction from more important issues?
He warned us. All the press conferences up until the release of the movie.
"I don't like Star Wars" is now a socially acceptable statement
sad
ieo facts if you said that before you would be bullied for the rest of you’re life
I don't like the NEW star wars. Your still obligated to like the old ones.
I _love_ Star Wars. This new Disney-funded shit is _not_ Star Wars.
@@KalibreSteelblast Babylon 5 is better by far :)
One of the main problems, among many others, I had with the sequels was that Han abandoned Leia.
Me too. I could never see him doing that. They basically took the Han from the first half of the original Star Wars and plopped him into The Force Awakens without any of the hard-earned character develop from the rest of the original trilogy.
That alone is a reason why the Expanded Universe is in every aspect superior to the Disney crap.
I saw a great video that said that the problem with putting old characters at the beginning of their character arc again is that their victories become their failures.
@@pigwhaleg Makes sense.
Right, i hate how he went back to being that selfish smuggler he first was in A new hope. Really undid all that development
If Disney (specifically Kennedy) can declare the entire expanded universe non-canon, then we, the fans, can declare this insulting sequel trilogy non-canon. Sure, we can never have the original actors again, and that hurts in a big way, but hopefully, eventually, someone with more love for the source material can make a proper sequel trilogy that will put Johnson and Kennedy to shame. We have spoken.
This sounds like the beginning of a prophecy. The prophecy of the one who will return balance to the force by remaking the sequel trilogy as it should have been.
I agree! Honestly, I’ve been calling the entire trilogy non-canon, especially with their treatment of our favorite characters.
A prophecy that'll happen 100 years from now when Diz-Knee gives up the rights after they're done gentrifying and gender swapping it to the point it becomes Star Wars: The Return of the Ewoks, A Holiday Special. Hosted by Kathleen Kennedy on Diz-Knee Negative right after the Holly Hobbie Mid-Season Finale. That'll be the sign to show the true fans that balance will soon be brought back.
@@ryanhutchins2634 Aggred
Mark Hamill is the only one i can see coming back. But even that might be pushing it
The whole original trilogy has been made redundant by the disney movies. The characters in the original trilogy accomplished nothing. The empire did not fall, just rebranded. The Jedi did not return. The rebels just continued to be rebels living on forest moons for the next 35 years. Nothing changed or evolved. The disney movies lack any courage or creativity. They just want to rehash the original movies but with a girl in the lead and hope nostalgia draws in the audience.
I think you've nailed exactly why the new movies are so horrible, and why they are such abysmal failures. Fans of Star Wars (the true fans, that is), experienced something with the original trilogy. There was a feeling of threat, risk and finally...reward. The Empire had been defeated, the Jedi were re-established as - basically - guardian knights of the galaxy, and everything was going to be better. But no...the new movies spit in the face of the sacrifice, hopes and dreams of the originals, and simply re-hash, reboot, and drag out what was already done, as though the originals never existed.
"The empire did not fall, just rebranded". Well this is also how it works in real life too.
Here's another log to throw on the fire of how bad Disney has destroyed Lucas's Star Wars. From the time, in the time line, that Revenge of the Sith ends until TFA starts is only about 50 at most. We know for certain Chewbacca has been alive the whole time and there's a good chance many other people are as well. My point being, there should still be a decent number of people around who knew what life was like before the Empire existed. It isn't even until New Hope, roughly 20 in, that the Senate is finally dissolved.
I look at the new movies as bad fan fiction, with the EU books as canon. To hell with what Disney says.
The Empire returning was part of George Lucas' plan for ST as well. I agree the whole thing has been badly handled by Disney and Lucasfilm, but something that size was never just going to go away. Indeed, if anything I suspect the conflict between The New Republic and the still vast remains of the Empire in Lucas' ST, may well have been bigger and badder than ever.
Make no mistake, Kennedy intentionally turned Han into a deadbeat father who abandons his family, Luke into a loser whose entire legacy was just bravado, and leia into the matriarch. This woman has real issues.
I think being a cultural Marxist infiltrator was her issue. But then this path started with JJ Abrams and his dislike of white actors.
@@android584 "cultural Marxist" is a meaningless term, dude. Turn off the Jordan Peterson.
And that's why the Disney trilogy doesn't exist in my opinion.
@@haraldisdead Even Dave Cullen doesn't use the term anymore, but it's a dated expression invented by liberals desperate to seperate themselves from the subversive commies that Yuri warned us about.
@@haraldisdead Is it a conspiracy theory, which is a meaning, or is it a phenomena, which is a meaning. or are you saying it doesn't exist as a thing?
Mark Hamill did a lot of voice over work from my understanding. The fact that Carrie, Mark and even Harrison came back after 40 years to do the movies was something every star wars fan was so looking forward to. What they did to all of these characters just basically said "if you are old you are useless." People are living longer and Disney should of embraced an older generation as well. Yoda was kicking butt being centuries old and obi wan in the last hope was no push over either.
Yes, Obi Wan still had wisdom to pass on in the original Star Wars. He wasn't a broken flaccid shell of a man.
"...if you are old you are useless." Well, that's definitely true for real human beings.
@@nellsun2521This despite the fact that he had lost, while Luke had won.
12:06 The look on Hamill's face here say it all. In so many of those promotional pieces for Last Jedi he just looked like he was in one of those hostage videos and that Kathleen Kennedy was off-camera with a gun to his head. He looks so awkward, uncomfortable, and betrayed. It's the most tellingly awkward interview footage outside of those Endgame ones where Brie is going off on one, and her co-stars are sitting there with 'wtf' expressions on their facea.
reminded me very much of different interviews/ appearances of game of thrones actors when talking about season 8. even with all their acting skills they couldn´t hide their disappointment how their characters turned out in the end
The world: "YAAAY Luke is back!!!" Disney: *kicks the world in the balls* HOW AWESOME WAS THAT??? The world: "Not cool asswipe." Disney: "MISOGYNISTS!!!"
Take my like
Hollywood has been turned into a propaganda machine. The aims of the owners of Hollywood, the same cabal that owns the central banks and the mainstream media (elite, Zionist Jeωs); is to undermine white societies and attack the white male and family values. Luke Skywalker was a white male hero, so he had to be extinguished in peoples minds. He had to be replaced with colored people and females. The script writing instructions, from globalist elites, is deliberate and calculated. I don't mind the attack on Christianity, or the loosening of sexual morals by these elite Zionists. But the attack on the white male combined with the mass immigration of colored, lower average-IQ people and the Middle East wars ... they have gone to far with all that. For understanding the politics, recommend videos such as: 1. *Who Owns The Media?* - (search for dp9F3XumYQA) 2. *Who Owns The Federal Reserve Full by Brother Nathanael* (vFwwJJL-fLs) 3. *Central Banking Explained (satan's monetary control) Part 1 of 2* (a8GyHK8751s) 4. *ALL WARS ARE BANKERS' WARS* (lunSNY5B48)
Some masochists this winter: "Take my money and give me another one!!!"
@@harryseldon6712 so on point. The awakening is coming friend
When they make the Despecialized version it will just be a blank screen.
I feel bad for Hamill. This was his last time to shine as Luke. Seems he really cares about the fans and the series and feels his character let them down.
I wonder if he is aware of his legends version of him and how badass he is in it. Might bring some peace of mind to me that is universe A and the new shit is just some alternate thing.
popo129 I'd be surprised if he wasn't aware. I also agree, everything before Disney is canon
he's in ep 9
@@meb8839 I'm don't know the books / comics / etc., however, I'll always treat that as "real" versus the bullshit that has come out in recent years.... Let Disney have "Coke 2"..... fuck those guys....
Majin Mudkip He has to be a force ghost though. At least he contradicted the light saber throw.
I stood in line and saw "A New Hope" in a Manhattan theater when it first came out (I'm 64). I also went to see the next two films in the theater and it became a treasured part of my youth. But as far as I'm concerned, Star Wars ended years ago and I wouldn't watch "The Last Jedi" if it showed up on my TV.
Same, id rather watch paint dry
Wise decision.
I've been watching your videos for a few weeks now and this older one came up. I've never heard sadness in your voice before. It's not in any of your newer stuff. This one really hurt, didn't it? I know it hurt me. I was born in '76 and grew up with Star Wars being my favorite thing. Luke was definitely a hero of mine. Rion Johnson destroyed a part of me I thought was impossible to destroy. He did that to all of us. Given everything we've learned about the people in control of this new wave of entertainment, I think it was done on purpose. Men are hated so much by these people that they're willing to deprive boys of growing up with heroes just to hurt them
Yeah, you can hear the pain in the Drinker's voice. He still regularly takes shots at TLJ and Rian, so it definitely left a scar.
same feeling
These last 3 movies didn't exist.
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@@CheersDits2979 The prequels were brilliant.
@@briansheehan3430 let's not go that far... I'd sum them up as poorly executed movies with great ideas, worldbuilding and narratives (for the most part).
@@fattburger6801 the sequels, make the prequels Down Right *Miraculous* cinema
Mjolnirs Power Yeah
Rian Johnson makes me miss Jar-Jar Binks and Anakin's whinings about sand.
at least the prequels are memeable and enjoyable as there is an actual story, the new trilogy started with some potential but was absolutely robbed of any meaning from this movie
The pre-quels were, in retrospect no that bad. Not bad att all actually. J-J Binks was a pain, but as the movies went on there were alot less of him, and the story they told was a good story, disregarding some of the love story C-plot. Let´s face it, Episode I-III were good movies whit problems. Disney Star Wars is garbage whit good moments. I liked how Anakin´s lightsabre in episode VII had a "memory" of sorts, for example. It´s, on the whole, a piece of shit ( when taking "The Last Jedi" in to accounts ) but that moment I liked.
at least the stories were good.
I don't like Disney. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
...no. No you don't. Seriously, Last Jedi was bad, but you can always say: At least it's not the prequels.
I could never understand why - if Luke wanted to be alone and isolated because of his shame about what happened to his pupil - he left a detailed map of where to find him. How did they find the exact island where he was living, and how did Rey know exactly where to find him on that island?
JJ Abrams. His writing is just a series of plot conveniences (watch his Star Trek for further evidence, which i actually enjoy)
Why? Lazy, unimaginative and outright mentally limited writing. J.J. Abrams is a spineless tool.
As a wise man once said, "Don' know!!"
@@timwarneka5681 it's not just a problem with star wars. A lot of TV and film SF treats planets as though they're large villages.
I doubt anyone will see this comment on a 4-year-old video, but I wanted to say that I was not just upset by what Disney did to Luke and Han, but also by what they did to Leia. The end of the original trilogy implied that Leia would learn to use the force and become a Jedi. Disney Leia is so disappointing to me.
Disney Star Wars is complete trash. The only cool thing is modern day special effects in some parts.
Entirely agreed! Leia failing to use the force and then that idiotic Mary Poppins scene... they're travesties against the original character. The whole movie is.
I think even in the extended universe she didn’t become a Jedi. All of her children did though. And her oldest son did turn to the dark side. Those were actually a couple things Disney kept from the EU. I’m with you though. I always wanted to see Leia as a Jedi.
Not only did they kill Han and Leia; they aborted Jacen, Jaina and Anakin Solo. Good work, guys.
yup
Luke in the OT: _Even though I've grown past the naivete of my youth, I still believe that forces of evil can be brought back to the light. In fact, I_ know _this, as my father Darth Vader was ultimately redeemed. I was ready to die instead of killing him; I refuse to follow a dark path as he once did._ Luke in TLJ: _I'm going to murder my nephew in his sleep because I'm worried he might do something bad at some point in the future._ Luke in the OT: _Even though I'm putting myself at great risk by battling enemies that surely overpower me, I will always fight to save my friends and bring peace to the galaxy. I'm physically and emotionally battered, but I will never give up._ Luke in TLJ: _My own mistakes are causing great suffering to the galaxy and the people I love. Evil is rising because of a misunderstanding I inexplicably created. I'm going to hide on a remote island and wait for death. When someone comes around in the hope of making things right, I'll tell them to fuck off and continue to refuse to do what heroes should do._ Fuck this movie
@@maelstrom2313 Please do not politicise a discussion about fictional characters, this is not welcome. Lucasfilm brought enough social issues into the movies already.
@@thisisfyne Lol, OK have it your way buddy.
@@maelstrom2313 Thanks mate :)
Now to be fair, the second point is partly on JJ Abrams. Rian is certainly the worse of the two, but JJ was the one that chose to send Luke to the middle of nowhere to hide as the galaxy crumbles from yet another war. He chose to let his friends do all the fighting rather than join them. Again, don't get me wrong, Johnson is the greater aggressor here, but JJ set him up with some out of character choices. Honestly I'm just saddened we didn't get to see the 3 of them in the Millenium Falcon together one last time
@@wilsonram39 Hmm.. I wonder though, doesn't Ep 7 just tell us that Luke has vanished and part of the plot is finding the map that leads to him? Or does the movie _actually_ say he purposefully went there to hide? Thinking about it, I don't think Ep7 ends with the viewer knowing _why_ Luke was on the island. For all we knew back then, he could have been stuck there against his will or on a quest of his own to battle the First Order...
Luke in Empire Strikes Back: _"I'm going to go fight Vader to save my friends, even though I know I'm not fully trained and will almost certainly die in the process."_ Luke in Return of the Jedi: _"I'm going to go save Vader from the Dark Side even though I know he's one of the most dangerous and evil men in the galaxy."_ Luke in The Last Jedi: _"I'm going to murder my nephew in his sleep because I'm worried he might do something bad at some point in the future."_ Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
@@VaderPopsVicodin10 I'm just wondering how badly Mark Hamill must have been in debt in order agree to play Luke and butcher the character so badly. You'd think he'd just refuse to do it
Disney / JJ Boredoms is just so full of asswipe writers it stuns ... I am through with Star Wars. Episode 8 is NOT canon.
Luke finally grew up and realized that the Jedi dream was a lie and a failure. It's called 'perspective' and there is literally no excuse for failure to understand his motivations as the viewer, considering the fact that he clearly states them. You simply disagree with him. Wah.
I hope Ryan Johnson is reading these comments.
@@WakeUpEternals exactly how are you drawing a comparison between Luke and Hitler?
I’m just listening to this video for the first time, three years after it was posted. I’d like to add my own bitter two cents in: I was nine years old when I went with my family to see Star Wars in the summer of 1977. I have seen it many many times since then. Moat of my friends wanted to be the slightly “bad boy” Han Solo but I was lit up by Luke Skywalker for exactly the reasons you detail - hell, I even dressed up like him Halloween that year. Fucked if I can remember details of this past Monday, but some 45 years on now, the details of that day are enshrined in my memory because of the heart and soul stirring impact of the great film and it’s characters. That day is enshrined in my memory because of the heart and soul stirring impact of the great film and it’s characters. In contrast, only 5 years after going with my family to this much-hyped, much anticipated movie, I can barely remember any of the plot points or story moments you bring up. I can’t remember my family‘s reactions. I can’t even remember that one light “Luke tickles her hand pretending to be the Force” moment. Whether one is a fan or a hater of episodes I-IiI, (I fall in towards the latter end of that group) I at least generally remember them. But with this film, Ryan Johnson, Mark Hamill, and the “powers that be” managed to do something that should not have been possible: They spent $200m to craft a forgettable Star Wars film.
One of my least favorite tropes is every hero that gets older no matter how kind, caring, or optimistic they were turns into the same jaded asshole as if all that happens when you get older is you become cynical and loose you ability to show kindness to anyone
Most disappointing movie of all time. let's not forget they also turned Princess Leia into superman.
I thought that when she got sucked out into space that would have been the end of it, and it would have been a good end... but they had to fuck it up (because empowering female characters with the power of space flight to the detriment of your entire franchise is more important).
Space Mary Poppins.
@@real_fjcalabrese But I think that title is taken, already (*cough cough* Guardians of the Galaxy)
Mary Poppins
I'm trying hard to forget! I saw it once and hated it!
Disney: *Destroys the Expanded Universe* Also Disney: "We don't have any materials to work with."
Legends treats the characters better than Disney's canon.
Not even JarJar was safe from disney. He became a street entertainer beloved by children and hated by adults.
@@Jack-uy7ie To be fair, who really gives a shit about Jar Jar?
I could not believe it when I first saw the interview when Kennedy spouted this abominable nonsense. That's like getting hired to expand a house for a customer and burning it down first thing in the morning of the first day of construction - and then telling the customer: "We have to build an entirely new house from the ground; we don't _have_ a house to expand like you wanted. Btw, the bill might be slightly higher than projected. Also, the new house might be a piece of shit because we don't give a fuck about how you liked your old house. And if you should dare complain about this, we will call you a racist, patriarchal misogynist, so think hard about what you are going to say next, asshole."
Seriously like WTF I remember when Kennedy said that at first I couldn’t say anything. Immediately followed up by a 10 minute rant.
It wasn't enough to kill our heroes, Luke, Leia and Han, they had to destroy them first. Luke did not become a great Jedi master who reinvented the order. Leia did not become a wise states woman leading a peaceful Republic. Han did not become a wealthy businessman with a feet of ships. They all became old, tried shit. Disney had to kill all that in the name of cheap drama. So, yes, the Star Wars story ended in triumph after Return of the Jedi (and the Timothy Zahn books.) Disney was bitter, jealous fanfic of a hateful franchise.
Mark Hamill wasn't typecasted. He's said he always wanted to be a voice actor and was thrilled to make that his career. He has had much more success as a voice actor than he has on screen
For example, he did a great job doing the voice of the Scientist in The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance.
The best version of The Joker is Mark Hamill
Back when 'Last Jedi' had premiered, I remember reading a user review/comment on Imdb by a guy who as he said was seriously ill probably terminally, and was a big long-time fan. He described how pumped he was before episode 8, as he couldn't wait to see it, especially Luke, and he was going on race against time as it was one of his last wishes to see Luke again as a Jedi master. Then he described how when he went to the theater (with difficulty because of his illness), and saw the movie, it just broke his heart so bad, how it depressed him, and then he felt his extreme sadness actually worsen his health. He didn't express anger or hate on his comment, but you could tell how genuinely wrecked inside he was and how deeply disappointed. It was so heartbreaking for me to read this. I don't know what happened to the guy, but bless him wherever he is... When I read his comment, episode 8 disgusted me even more. Now, when I hear people say, "hey I loved the Last Jedi", "I think Luke was perfect in Last Jedi", and so on, I think about this guy's wrecked soul and I get upset. It is revolting to me, when someone says they get pleasure out of seeing Luke toss his legendary father's lightsaber in a parody fashion, milk a seacow's tit and drinking green milk in a disgusting manner, or him whining for a whole movie, and dying from a heart attack, all alone on a rock, and describe this as "perfect". It's so disrespectful to all the people that loved this character, It just sickens me. I think of this pure fan, who had a wish before he died, the same wish as millions and millions of other fans, to see their beloved character 'Luke' again as a beacon of hope, as a wise and powerful Jedi Master, only to have that judicious wish destroyed by some guy called Rian Johnson. And now this honest Star Wars fan probably has left this world with a wrecked soul. How disrespectful this movie was to all the people who cherished this mythos, this character, how this movie literally trolled these people. This is what episode 8 did. It broke people's hearts. It depressed them, it destroyed everything beloved by millions of people. What they did with this movie, is, and will always be, unforgivable.
Yes! This!
Episode 7? You mean 8
Wow That is a sad story about a dying person no doubt, also sad that someone would take the time to write a book about a Movie with fictional people
No doubt someone will say he was a "fan Boy" and it was only a movie well no, it was important to me, to you and to this man. They actually said "this film was not about us"? who do they think paid for all of it. I will not give them another penny after being treated this way and your story of that poor guy will make me even more determined, well written
The points made here are valid but since you think the movie isn't good, you must be a manbaby.
"Why is your head shaped like a f***ing soccer ball?!?" I died.
@@TheConservativeCrusader Don't be ridiculous. Ghosts can't type. I manipulated the electrical currents of my laptop's keys with my ghost powers to make the characters appear on screen as if I had typed them. I figured people needed to know how dangerously funny that comment was so they didn't encounter the same fate as I.
The simple answer why his head is shaped like a soccer ball is because he is in a critical need of a shockabuku
So we can kick it
@@highlanderc I'd be the first one to volunteer.
Because is full of air
My theory is the space cow milk destroyed Luke’s mind and made him insane
There’s a reason we pasteurize our milk, just saying.
I got this recommended 5 years later and let me just say i love your new mic
Kathleen Kennedy: How can we loose at least half of our fans? Rian Johnson: Hold my beer!
Hold my green milk squeezed out of some weird creature's nipple, don't you mean?😂
@@RandomUploads-ch3bh After I saw that scene I swore to never see it again .... then I saw it on this video 🤢.
More like "Hold my soy milk"
No no no... if you think she didn’t say to him “pssst... make the force female” you’re bonkers
He drinks Fresca bro
Mark Hamill DID move on, he’s done a shit ton of voice acting and is one of the best Jokers in DC history
Besides Joker he isn't known for much. Luke is still his and the drinker pointed out he's been the most interactive with the fans in conventions and on social media. He hasn't done much film wise. When you think Hamill you think Luke.
Christopher Edwards - I agree. His investment in the character and engagement with fans is pretty remarkable.
@@christopheredwards5337 When you think Harrison Ford you think Han Solo. Indiana Jones. The President of the United States
Why did he not do the joker movie? Did he even audition?
I highly recommend you check out Metalocalypyse for some great Hamill voice work. As long as insane violence in cartoon form doesn't offend you hahaha
It still confuses me how Rei never ended up wielding a lightsaber pike instead of a basic one since she has trained herself in using a staff. Another missed opportunity.
One theory I have about Luke having no personality or 'balls' in this series is because Rey has no personality. She's supposed to be the protagonist, yet, since she's a mary sue, there's nothing to teach her. She doesn't need any 'growth', so what could Luke teach her? It's a vain metaphor for the young female generation stating that they don't need old white men telling/teaching them anything...
Except in this hijacked Star Wars fantasy world, it actually works out for her in every respect.
Hi! I live in a socialist/feminist country in Scandinavia. I was brought up here, and being a boy and then a man I have heard so much hate against me, since I don't follow their narrative. At Uni I was so bullied by other female Norwegian and female Swedish students and female Professors that I even considered suicide. I will also say that most of these women are man-hating in the closet lesbians or transgenders and I would call them soul-less and of course no personality or happiness in their life if you see my point how they act? Anyway, I am ok today, but had to change carrier where there were at least a 70/30 ratio of men/women at the workplace and the harassment against me stopped.
@Dr G You poor fucking victim. I fell so bad that you lacked the balls to stand up for yourself like men do. It's sad that you are nothing but a victim. Down the road not across the street.
I feel so bad for Mark Hamill. He was obviously so excited to be back at first, and so sad and disappointed once TLJ came out
I don't think these virtue signallers care about what people think of them. They are just there for the money.
I’m sure he was crying all the way to the bank.
You are right. The 3 installments should of been a new generation meeting the characters of Luke, Leia, Han etc.. with Rey being under training with Luke. Luke, Leia and Han should of been still vital characters. Yoda and Obi Wan were still kicking butt so this would of not been a problem for the characters. Disney basically said "If you are old you are useless and don't deserve to live." People are living longer now and they completely missed the mark.
And what’s sad is that even though mark hamill didn’t like the script, he was contractually obligated to follow through with the role.
Hey Mark, are you done with Star Wars? I sure hope so. Enough said...
What baffles me, if Luke left behind a star map, he clearly wanted to be found at some point
Yeah, also Rey so fucking powerful would never need a starmap, wondering she didn't just point her hand somewhere and summoned Luke using Force from wherever he was, like Accio in Harry Potter.
My favorite part is their star map without the missing piece is like a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle and you're missing one piece. Why do you need to find the missing piece??? CLEARLY Luke is in the missing part.
I noticed that, too. It makes no sense.
Manbaby roundhead johnson kinda forgot to watch the movie he should continue...
That is JJ's fault. Rian just took what he was given. JJ put in the map idea.
I’m here after the correct Luke came in and absolutely kicked ass!
Luke was a really good character in the original because he started off sort of low key relatable as a farm boy raised on a nobody planet and then became a warrior, kind of to say, if you work hard you can become strong and great like him even if you were raised as a nobody, but ray is: you are just born a badass
True but even Luke was not written well in the old Trilogy. As a Farmer Boy, together with a Smugler and an old Jedi raiding the biggest, most secured military base in the Universe? Then from a Farmer Boy, he became a Jedi within 6-12 Month that is equally skilled in Swordplay as one of the greatest Sith Lords only losing because of Vader overpowering him with the Force. But then 1 or 2 Years later coming back as a Jedi Master. Just wondering, how did luke master his sword skills without having several practice Partner? Magic? Luke is just like Rey a MarySue.
I've watched every Star Wars movie, even, "The Phantom Menace," numerous times. I watched TLJ once...and there won't be a second time.
I walked out the theater during the casino planet borefest. Didnt see Solo. Wont see anything other Disney fan fiction movies.
I loved Anakin's plight in Attack Of The Clones about hating sand. I hate sand too!
@@stevepalpatine2828 : I cant imagine why I didnt walk out of the theater?, I was really horrified and transfixed. When it was finaly all over everyone got up and silently walked out of the theater, in contrast when I saw Star Wars and the next two films everyone CLAPPED at the end,
I somehow enjoyed it on first viewing. On second viewing though, yikes.
I tried. I torrented it a few months ago and deleted that shit about 2mins in. I will not re-live that horror ever again.
Only way to save it is with the old literary trick: “it was all just a dream” and pick up the series with Star Wars X. Lol
Actually, I think it's best to consider these new Star Wars movies bad fan-fiction films that were produced by loathsome corporate shills.
more like a fucking nightmare
That's how Abrams should have started Episode IX! Then repeat Rey's arrival at the end of Ep. VII and soon after have him start training Rey.
Yes, PLEASE. The Disney trilogy turns out to be nothing more than a nasty fever dream that was induced when Luke accidentally mixed some Tatooine peyote into his stew.
Nice in theory, but what about the sadly departed?
After watching Mandolorian, they did Luke perfectly and whoever is running the show knows what they are doing for the fans. The sequel movies don't exist to me.
Star Wars Movies: The Phantom Menace Attack of the Clones Revenge of the Sith Rogue One A New Hope The Empire Strikes Back Return of the Jedi The Mandalorian
Yeah that'll be Dave Filoni. not Kennedy
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 nope, not Filoni, it be Jon Faverou. Filoni is a woke weirdo fully invested in Kennedys vision. Though season 3 of Mandalorian has now shown that even Faverou has been got to. Star Wars is officially dead
I love how people gave the prequels a hard time and yet they mesh so well with the original trilogy and respect the old films and characters. Whereas the Disney muck shits all over everything!
Repeat after me: Jedis only kill as a last resort! No way Luke would have even thought about killing Kylo in his sleep. No way in hell.
Then what's with the limb severing laser swords they carry? Those don't seem very non lethal and even then, the enemy is down a hand. Or two.
@Tim Hanselbach A) dont they have less than lethal settings for stun and such? Yet they never seem to use them. B) dont blasters also have stun settings as well? So couldnt jedi still use them for less then lethal?
In Attack of Clones, Jedi kill as a first resort. Go back its right there.
@@mattmorehouse9685 They do in the original Star Wars / A New Hope.
Unless... *_dew it_*
I've seen soooo many analyses on TLJ. You would think that people would run out of criticisms or deconstructions or plotholes but no. Yours is a welcomed voice. I have never, never, never in my life heard so MANY poingiant, striking, well thought out, thorough, and downright ingenious critiques of ANY other film than I have of this one. It just goes to show you how deeply this movie wounded so many, how disrespectful it was, and how much these characters were loved. Ruminations like these don't come from just seeing a bad movie, they come from some place much deeper. There is NOTHING close to the complexity of emotion and psychology that goes into these critiques on the side of those who defend this movie. I've been done with Star Wars for quite some time, but I am just starting to realize that the damage this movie has done will be spoken of passionately for decades to come.
Zermelo I made an entire playlist of these kinds of critiques for therapy
Agree 100%. I felt so empty inside after watching TLJ. It was a painfull experience
11:45 what a true and bittersweet detail! wonderful video drinker!
The entire Disney triology is on par with Ghostbusters 2016, such a stunning and brave gift of art and entertainment that the world truly needed.
Imagine it this way: in 2040, they announce a new Harry Potter film, and excitedly report that the entire original cast is returning. But the original characters are nothing like their original selves, in demeanor or actions, and Harry, Ron, and Hermione never once all share the screen together. That's what we were given with the sequel trilogy. Characters who are distorted from their former selves, and we never once see Luke, Leia, and Han together; this fact appeared to upset Mark Hamill, as he's mentioned it a few times. The chance of a lifetime. Shot.
"But the original characters are nothing like their original selves, in demeanor or actions" - already got that in Cursed Child
@@antonmarkin9491 For sure.
That's how I fell thanks sequels you killed of the orginal cast
Vellichor, so the Cursed Child?
And now it's not even possible for the three to share the screen together again, because Carrie Fisher is gone... =(
The thing is, Mark Hamill hates the new trilogy. They tricked him into signing a contract to act in all the movies, and had no choice once the producers were changed.
Mark HAS to work, this is his chance to earn BIG money, he should have always had the same fee {or more} that Harrison got, Harrison was already a huge star and incredibly wealthy. Mark and Carrie should have all been on the same money
Mark ain't hurting for money. He spent the better part of the last 25 years voicing the Joker and doing considerable amounts of other voice acting.
Gal Kononenko He does have much better intentions than Harrison Ford who literally only signed on to TFA if Han was killed.
Mark is an amazing actor, on screen and voice acting. Such a shame that this shit show is what people will remember him for, even though it's not even his fault.
@@bbolin5626 yeah well, you could call that a smart move in hindsight.
mind blown today ! now let’s have luke wake up from a nightmare and erase the last three movies!
Or could a time travel multiverse be done?
Thanks for keeping humor and honesty alive, Drinker. I love your videos and I appreciate the work that you do. It's inspiring.
Dude I'm not kidding when you talked about Luke at the end, as an actor I literally teared up. I experienced that myself in a smaller way and it totally broke my heart and Now I literally don't even recognize that " franchise " that I have represented in the past. I thought the same thing you did , , they hated having Luke Skywalker in that movie. Honestly man thank you for taking the time to see this actors heart. And I'd like to think that he has seen your video before and felt encouraged, where they made him feel lonely before. I don't know if you're the best writer in the world, but right now you are to me .
@@wadi_dog That was honestly the most british comment i've red in my entire life Not in a negative way
The sadest is, as it's said, Mark Hamill seems to be a real nice person, he didn't deserve to be humiliated this way! Adding the passing of Carrie Fisher and Peter Mayhew, sad ending!
@Heyward Shepherd No. He fucking HATED this movie, and technically he had to
He's actually a douche. He's a far leftist who constantly gets into Twitter flame wars with people and belittles anyone with different opinions than him.
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath you are clearly mistaken for Rian Johnson
@Crunch Bandicoot Nope, check out Mark Hamill’s Twitter. Really sad.
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath actually, they PAID him and TOLD him to say "sorry." He knew it was shit. He knew it would be terrible and it would ruin Luke. Please do your research.
The idea of Luke Skywalker as a broken down, miserable, jaded old hermit is one that I felt could have worked. It just needed to be executed better
When Luke just up and decides very, very quickly to MURDER his nephew...right, "There is good in you. I feel it." just went straight out the equation I guess.
when your planet destroying dad gets more of a chance than your nephew who you had a bad dream about...
"no matter how much we wish it could be, it can't be unmade" - brought a tear to my eye
But it could be remade..... If only the rights could be bought from that one trick pony shit house known as DIsney.
It can be to you if you want it to be. Its a fictional world. You can just decide for yourself that this never happened. You can tell yourself that the EU books are real. Sure its not what Disney says but who cares. As far as Im concerned Disney Star Wars never happened. I used to read the EU books and I loved them .I was willing to give these movies a shot and replace the EU with an "official" timeline but theyve failed. Theyve been unmade in my eyes and I again think of the EU as real Star Wars.
CoolHardLogic you’d have to recast Fisher. The golden opportunity was thwarted by money hungry heartless. Pure evil.
not my storyline
Plinkett said the same thing about the PT
It was a terribly sad and unjustified end to an iconic character.
But “no ones ever really gone”...
I also need to shout out my good friend Pete. He called me as soon as he got out of the theater and begged me to never see this movie
The heartbreak on Mark Hamills face in that shot with Ryan Johnson at the premier says so much
I wanted to ask George Lucas what he thought about the last Jedi. So I tracked him down. I found him on a 4-billion-dollar money island. He was living there as a recluse. Then I asked him about this movie, handing him a DVD of his OT. He just tossed it over his shoulder, said “fuck the Jedi” and told me it was time for the Jedi to end. I then flew halfway across the galaxy to confront the roundheaded one, known as Swoke. But he just told me he thought all these characters were really funny. He just wanted to make a comedy for children with space wizards. But he got cut in half by man-child J.J. Ren. But then it turned out the roundheaded one was just a clo(w)ne made by the evil empress Kennedine. Turns out she was behind it all from the beginning and had somehow survived this entire shit show. It had been her filling J.J. Ren’s head with all kinds of SJW voices, back since The Force Awokens. She had been the one pulling Swoke’s strings all along as well. And lo and behold, she was even the grand mother of movie death star MaRey Sue who had been specifically designed to kill the Star Wars Universe
lol this is actually better than the actual movie
This is genius
Spot on man, this is a very accurate summary.
Terribly underrated comment
I love this comment!😂
This is up there with the best critiques of this film. It should have more views!!
Spread it far and wide. I am.
Very powerful, impassioned video! If there were a ring in Dante's Inferno for "Crimes against Cinema," there would be a special place of dishonor for both Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson. Together, they've critically wounded a beloved film franchise. If KK isn't fired at the next Disney shareholder meeting, any attempt at restoring the franchise will be destined to fail.
2023, you are a prophet.
You explained how and why Luke Skywalker was utterly destroyed to great character and detail than Star Wars Explained ever could. Splendid job, mate!👏🏻
6:08 "Why is you head shaped like a fucking soccer ball?" The best quote of this video.
That statement should have been repeated more often
The best part of movie is when mark hammill said it had great actors in it and one day he would like to actually work with them.
That could be taken more than one way, I think!
He had high hopes back then. Mark was at least as heartbroken as the rest of his fans.
The build up to the trilogy, an actual new hope toward seeing our favorite cast together again.
"Rian, why would you skip such an important conversation as this? Why would you rob Luke of such an emotional moment? Why is your head shaped like a f**king soccer ball?!" You tell him, Drinker! Lol
Why is the Irish / or Scottish narrator calling it a "soccer ball" instead of a "football"
Been a fan of Star Wars since I watched ANH in 1977 at the age of 13. I couldn't agree more with everything you said. Especially the last part about the fact that it can never be unmade. Heartbreaking to be a fan right now. The people who made and really enjoyed this film must have extremely low expectations.
We can always just pretend that anything that isn't from George Lucas is just the most expensive fan fiction ever created.
There's no character development. Rey seems to have no flaws. In the prequels and originals we saw the imperfections of Anakin and Luke and even Kenobi
@@samueljohnson9723 Notice how in the movie all the men were flawed and the women were perfect?
@@savagepug It is because SJWs and feminists have infected Star Wars at the hands of Kathleen Kennedy.
In 77 it was just Star Wars. Don't drink the blue koolaid.
Hamill Should have walked away. Rian Johnson needs to be excommunicated from film and maybe even this planet.
you are so right
I hate to say this but most actors are whores. Mark Hamill SHOULD have told them to go fuck themselves or rewrite the entire Luke Skywalker arc, but he saw that paycheck and showed up, milked a space walrus and acted like a complete twat. Hamill would have sucked a Wookie's cock while wearing a pink ballet skirt if they had told him to.
@sonoki82 I disagree. Mark Hamill was upset because Star Wars was not just a movie to him, it was his greatest legacy. He speaks about Skywalker as if he's a real person he knows well. This move undermines his most iconic role and as a bonus erases any chance of him being a part of any future Star Wars saga. That is not worth a few million.
@sonoki82 No, I agree about the contract and would like to believe that's the only reason he stayed. I still disagree however than he would have done it anyway, even for 20-30 million. Others have walked away from that kind of money before. The kind of person who would have taken the money anyway wouldn't risk his multi-million dollar contract to sabotage the film in public with his scathingly negative reviews even before it's released.
Hamill couldn't walk away. He's contractually bound - and let's be honest, he had no clue what would happen to his character from the offset. I'm sure back in the early 2010's he would have been happy to know he would once again be playing a beloved character of his, Luke Skywalker (you can tell he really loves what the character means to so many people) ... he couldn't have imagined it could have ever one day been THIS BAD.
Let me first say I am new to the channel and I am really enjoying the reviews.... especially the sign off. I also agree with the criticism. I will be 51 this year. I can remember going to see Star Wars back in 1977. Not only did I become a huge fan but very excited about making movies, special effects, story telling....I really got into it. So when I heard that Disney was coming out with new movies, I paid to see it in IMax!!!! This review very accurately sums up the emotional rollercoaster that the first two movies took me on. The hope and mysteries of Force Awakens, followed by the crushing blows of Last Jedi. I have never left a movie feeling more devastated and betrayed. And after watching this review, I can see the Critical Drinker felt the same way. I give you a lot of credit for sitting through Rise of Skywalker. Don't think I can ever do that. My brother bought me Force Awakens on DVD for Christmas, and I said no thank you, because of Last Jedi. So I feel your pain. I want to thank you for making this video, and all the others around this subject. I believe we have lost something crucial in modern day story telling,. hope.
Well said! Your analysis was spot on and said it in a way that I felt, but wasn't eloquent enough to put into words
The entire story-line to me seems like one massive missed opportunity. We should have been introduced from the very first shot to Luke's academy, with Ben and Rey in training. Here was Luke's chance to shine as a character, as we now get to see him as a wise teacher, and the galaxy at relative peace. It also removes all the Mary-Sue accusations which, let's face it, are not without accuracy. The story then becomes focused on Rey and Ben, and how they take different paths, and the tension between them. But it's also a chance to really get into the lore of the Force, Ben uncovering Sith teachings, being sold a relic in the form of Vader's broken helmet, and the feeling that it came to him for a reason. Palpatine holocron anyone? Then you can run off and do the whole "Gotta kill Han" thing to sever his past, and introduce the First Order later as an encroaching darkness coming out of the black reaches of space. Luke remains a teacher until it's absolutely necessary to use him to directly get involved, and then it should be done both sparingly, and in a way that he makes fans leap out of their damn seats in delight. It's called Star Wars, but there doesn't have to be a 'literal' war in every film, and it would have been better to lead into it so we can get to know the characters properly first instead of going from "Empire defeated" at the end of the OT to "Oh hai First Order" in the very first shot of the new one as if nothing had happened. Han and Leia should have been left in relative peace. Leia doing the political thing as a cameo, and Han perhaps still returning to his smuggling or working for the new Republic in a more clandestine fashion until Ben tracks him down to give Harrison what he wanted. 3P0 and R2 also should be left to be part characters. The story as is has too many characters, and spends time sloppily chasing down really baffling plot points or focusing on secondary characters. I like both Po and Finn, but a lot of the time they seem either too comedic or just surplus. Po's flying skills are just unreasonably perfect, taking down entire squadrons in seconds and single-handedly emasculating a dreadnought, while Finn is the other end of the spectrum, getting his ass handed to him by a desert scav. For someone who has been trained from childhood to be a soldier, he's near useless and spends most of the time either running from something or getting smacked about by it. Phasma was a waste of time, and to a large degree so was Snoke. It was always about the dynamic between Rey and Kylo, and for me that's what it should have stuck with. That's where the tension is, that's where the drama is. Luke should have been a rock of support, like Yoda was, like Obi-Wan was, and should have had his chance to be that wise, powerful yet restrained mentor, cautioning the impetuous students. But no, we ended up with Mary Sue and the grumpy hobo, and the comedy cast of dozens against the "just add water" Insta-Empire and their 'pulled it out of their asses' super-Deathstar. What a fucking travesty.
You put my thought's about TLJ into words, TFA wasn't quite right but I thought I'd give it a chance - beginning to regret that one.....:-/
Perfect!!
Is there a way to save comments?
Nailed it.
If only, that would have been an awesome beginning to a new trilogy. Showing respect and giving dignity to the original cast and very natural segue for the generation to carry on the story
All my friends told me not to see it. Eventually I tried to watch it on Netflix, When Luke threw his lightsaber I turned it off. Then a month later I decided to continue. When I saw him drinking green milk, I stopped it again. Then 2 months later... I see Luke try to kill his nephew and, I canceled Netflix...at least for awhile.
Damn it you, you just gave it a three viewing times! That's not how to not support a movie.
T Hakala oh. Well at least I didn't see it in theaters
Lol don't blame Netflix. The witcher is awesome!
Christopher Edwards " Toss a coin for your witcher, oh valley of plenty" Hells yeaaaaaaahhhhhhh! On my 3rd watch!
I find it so funny that you cancelled Netflix. This Disney Star Wars stuff is just awful. It's the cancer of cinema. It's probably what bankrupted Toys R Us.
Bruh, hearing your voice from years ago is, ugh, fascinating. Hope my voice developed as cool as yours.
first time watching, 30 seconds in and already subbed, you curse more than me, love it
I think my alcoholism peaked during the release of this movie.
@Grapthar's Hebrew Hammer Yeah what a weird comment all together. The original post said nothing about the prequels and it never made any comparisons. Maybe they replied to the wrong comment on accident?
im attempting to kill myself with alcohol as we speak
When I was watching episode 8,I was wondering if rian Johnson had actually seen Star Wars before
In an interview he claimed he was actually a fan. 😒
You know, I'm not sure if it's the mic quality but damn, you almost sound sober with the delivery of this video and God damn that's an achievement all of its own considering the subject matter.
I will NEVER forgive LucasFilm for what they did to Luke Skywalker and Mark Hamill. It's been years since Last Jedi and I am still fucking furious!
agreed 100%. Luke was allegedly the most powerful Jedi of all time, reduced to a mangina
Right. The man who defeated Darth Vader lost to Rey and Kylo.
@@porridge57 losing to rey is bullshit in every way, losing to kylo would be a whole different thing if you think of obi-wan in a new hope. letting the bad guy kill him so the "new hope" (luke respectively rey) would have a chance to grow in character and skill with the force. but this projection bullshit made no sense whatsoever especially because rey obviously doesnt even need to grow, she was seemingly born with more power than anyone else in the fucking galaxy. seeing mark hamills face in some interviews really shows how heartbroken he is about his character and I think many fans of the series feel the same way. its so bad you kinda begin to cherish the quality of the prequels, which says a lot I think.
I appreciate your disdain for Rian Johnson.
Sadly he's not that bad of a director in general as his recent movie knives out is pretty decent. I'd blame Kathleen for this mess but that's also mostly because Rian just probably nodded his head like a donkey whenever she says something dumb
@@ssk58607 He's a complete prick as a person from what I've seen though - constantly calling people man babies on twitter for complaining about the film and someone asked 'now that you've see the criticism and comments, can you appreciate or understand any of them' and he said no. How up your own arse do you have to be to not even consider that something might be wrong in something you've done. George said films would never get released if they weren't taken for release day because directors always see something they think they could do better or improve on
@@darthconquerus I usually don't care about what directors or actors do outside of movies but in general it's easier to hate the guy when he makes a terrible movie and more so when he's defending it so yeah sure. Zack Snyder called fans dumb when they wanted to see a batman that doesn't kill people lol he said be fucking realistic nd all to lifelong fans what do you think of that
@@ssk58607 I think the biggest problem is that johnson wasn't really familiarized with the world of star wars, of course when a studio pick a director or an actor for a role they are always gonna say "yeah i'm a huge fan of X thing" but he didn't get the meaning of practically anything, when luke threw away anakin's lightsaber I literally couldn't believe what I was watching, and that isn't "subverting expectations" is just incoherence on the narrative.
That's is the result of his believe that he is a kind of a genius or an artist or something like that. Is just a stupid arrogant.
9:50 Ich gebe zu, bei der Szene, mußte ich damals sogar weinen. Was für ein würdiges, großartiges Ende. Aber damit war für mich die Geschichte um "Star Wars" zu Ende erzählt. Alle Teile die danach kamen, habe ich mir bis heute nicht angesehen.
This movie put the Star Wars franchise on life support. Rian Johnson completely stomped on the Jedi and the true meaning of the force.
"And Daniel LaRusso decided to murder one of his students because he worried about him joining a different dojo" had to pause it and laugh so much, tears down my face. Brilliant stuff.
Cobra Kai Season 3 spoilers already getting out, eh??? XD
Good lord this video should have a million views by now.
Its ok, its based on what used to be Star Wars, think of it as an alternate reality Star Wars, just like alternate reality Doctor Who and Star Trek. Sometimes I think that the popularisation of nerd culture is what is killing it.
@@BorungBoyNerd Chic is what is killing nerd culture as studios now pander to the lowest common denominator rather than living up to the quality nerds demand
Unfortunately there are already a hundred videos of cringey SW fans.
Alex Cunningham The latter sentence people say is fan service. Theres no winning.
Tony H It seems you’ve made your position clear as someone who hates Star Wars.
You summed up and explained a pain that I've felt since seeing the movie, though I was less capable of articulating it. Thank you.
It's not holding a torch for the nostalgia, it's torching the legacy
Imagine that on the Christmas (life day) Card. "Dear Han and Leia, I had a bad dream and killed your son..."
@moon dawg stir stir whip whip stir...
Kylo isn't just an adolescent boy, he's Luke's nephew. Luke was going to kill his family.
Remember when he did that to Vader, he was always giving Leia hate eyes after she chose han.
Lets not forget that despite the typecasting of Hamil... He has been the ABSOLUTE BEST voice actor for the Joker in the batman cartoons, he's also done a bunch of video game voice acting as well... EG: pretty sure he was one of the big name voice actors for Masters of Orion, along with Michael Dorn, aka LT. Commander Worf from star trek
You have summarized perfectly how I felt after seeing TLJ. It took me a couple days to figure it out, but I was in mourning for the loss of my childhood hero. Don’t get me wrong, I expected him to die in this series, but as you point out, he left in such a pitiful way... it was demoralizing. I wish I had seen this video when you first posted, but I only just discovered your channel. So glad I did.
I remember when I saw this in theaters, and when Luke "faded into the force" a lot of people in my theater were like "what?" or just other sounds of disappointment, and it was more the older people. God, it was depressing.
I actually yelled at the screen as he started to fade and said don't you dare! And after that moment there was a palpable feeling of Despair in the room. It's the only Star Wars movie I've ever been to when no one clapped at the end. Usually everyone claps at the end. No one clapped everyone just stood up and walked out. There is a depression that hung in the air and nobody talked, nobody said anything. Everybody looked like somebody had just run over their dog
Master Oogway that’s describes the movie perfectly
@@Masteroogway40 That is exactly how I felt walking out of my early screening.
Yeah it was so unnecessary like he could of lived for at least one more film then maybe passed like Yoda did but nope he has to have one last fake battle then just die. Honestly how Luke fades away in that movie is what I wanted happen to me after watching it.
There were so many parts in the movie that made me cringe while watching in theatres. IE yo momma joke and hux being a relegated to a bafoon. But the 4 things I hated the most was when Luke tossed the lightsaber and when he went to kill Ben. Then when he disappeared like Yoda and oh yeah the whole fucking movie! Never have I been disappointed in a sequel in a beloved franchise as I have with that movie. And Ive seen Batman and Robin, Mortal Kombat 2 and TMNT 3! Oh and force awakens was bad too.
Personally i dont consider the Sequel Trilogy canon, idc what anyone else says
Same
TIE Fighter for PC in the 90's had a better storyline than these last 3 movies.
@@dalandser562 So did the holiday special at this point
The trilogy that brings back characters for the sole purpose of utterly destroying them.
I thought I should get around to watching the rest of the new Star Wars movies The Critical Drinker mentioned the mirage scene with Luke. And I realized I had seen it, but forgot. What a memorable movie.
I never thought Star Wars could get worse than the prequels but the prequels look like masterpieces next to this drivel.
I liked the prequels.
@@samuelross9884 the prequels were disappointing for what wasn't there. There were elements that were good but the main point (Anakin's character development) takes place entirely off screen between episodes 1 and 2. Also, as much as episode 3 has some truly awesome scenes, the plot is absolutely retarded. Anakin fails to make a reasonable or rational decision throughout the entire movie. General Grievous is the stupidest villain ever. Ian McDermott carries everything with his spectacular performance as the emperor. I don't fault anyone for liking these movies but they could have been written so much better.
Absolutely. They are not great, but they are not too bad either. This one is an insult to intelligence.
And the sad thing is that it didn't have to be this way. Hell, even though Disney fumbled the ball by not going with a new concept and falling back on making a soft-reboot of the first movie, there was still an opportunity to do something interesting with a sequel. But nope, Empire 2.0 are still just as powerful after the destruction of the Not-Death-Star as the Empire was in V. It's just so incredibly baffling - J.J. ended the story of 7 in a position where a story like Empire Strikes Back would naturally unfold, but he left enough new plot elements to progress the story in a new direction. And Rian Fucking Johnson took all the new plot threads, ran them off the road, and focused on taking the parts that people felt would be like Empire or Return of the Jedi and said, "Ha, dumb internet theorists, I'm rendering all of you wrong by doing NOTHING! HA! Don't you feel silly for being creative and having ideas?"
@@arandompasserby7940 OMG preach, brother! There were a lot of interesting plot threads in Force Awakens that could have made for a great new trilogy if explored but the entire point of TLJ seems to be to make a mockery of Force Awakens and abruptly destroy everything that made it interesting. FA: Who is this ancient and powerful Sith lord, Snoke who managed to build a new Empire in only a few years? TLJ: Who cares? He's dead. FA: What is Rei's lineage and why is she so powerful without training? TLJ: Nobody and I dunno. FA: Will we finally have the payoff of seeing Luke as a wizened old Jedi Master who much like Obi Wan, learned from his failures and taught others not to make his mistakes? TLJ: No, he's just a dumb asshole and a coward. FA: Poe and Finn are relatable, likeable, ballsy new characters who have a lot of potential. TLJ: Poe and Finn are boring Neanderthals who routinely get out-acted by cgi penguines. Rian Johnson must have done the same bad batch of coke as those two retards who ruined Game of Thrones.
"I am a Jedi, like my father before me". The Luke Skywalker who said that would not have done the actions in the ST.
TLJ: "I am no Jedi, nor am I Sith. I'm just nothing in comparison to the bestest evar, Rey Palpatine Skywalker." Expectations successfully subverted!
When Masters David Filoni and Jon Favreau have seen your video.....
@@Josh_728 watch the season 2 finale of the mandalorian. It's a good start on the right path.
@@Josh_728 most be miserable
@@Josh_728 I've heard this strawman used so many times to describe franchises that have been broken before. The older stuff still exists trope is annoying at best, pathetic at worst.
@@Josh_728 hmm... I guess i will have to see it for myself. Just like with the prequels and sequels. I have had issues with his new canon's versions of Mandalorians though. Especially during the clone wars era, seriously Peaceful Mandalorians, that's a load of shit in my opinion and another reason why Kotor 1 and 2 is still awesome.
This video essay, if any, deserves the Drinker’s “That’s all I’ve got for today. Goe awuy nao!”
I feel so bad for Mark. I’ve felt so bad for him for months now since this movie came out. They did him dirty for sure.
@oneraceonedestiny money isn't what makes everyone happy man. They destroyed something he loved and cared for with a passion and you're like: "but hey, atleast he got payed a lot" even tho he probably fell into a depression after this movie along with losing Carrie Fisher, "atleast he got some money out of this" That's definitely a stupid response and a retarded way of thinking
oneraceonedestiny Why can’t I feel sorry for both it’s there a limit that the rest of us don’t t know about? If so you might want to inform everyone else in the world.
@oneraceonedestiny if you wanna inform the rest of the world what's happening to the African kids that don't eat and get chopped up into bits and Syrian kids that have no legs then post that comment on one of those videos. Leave it out of star wars