3% BATTERY LEFT! My Porsche Taycan Turbo S Rapid Charging Experience
Only 3% of battery left was uncomfortably low! However, it was by design because it's time for a test of how fast the rapid chargers will actually charge up the Porsche Taycan Turbo S. If I'm going to take this on a road trip, I need to know how it works, so let's find out!
All Taycans come with the Porsche Taycan Charge Card including, effectively a 3 year subscription worth a few hundred pounds that discounts your charging rate at the Ionity stations from £0.69 per kW to £0.30 per kW instead. Ionity is a collaboration between a number of OEMs including Porsche, Audi, VW, Mercedes, BMW, Ford and Hyundai and is going through rapid growth across Europe but lingering behind in the UK with fewer than 10 locations currently in operation - not exactly ideal for daily usage.
However, with plans ahead to venture across Europe with the Taycan when circumstances allow, I need to get an understanding of whether this is going to be realistically feasible. For example to go to the Nurburgring will require a 400 mile drive which needs at least one full charge and a following top-up to make it there. The network locations along the way certainly make this possible but I'm curious to find out how long it realistically will take to do so and the results are pleasantly surprising.
I'm learning fast how to use the EV charging network, and there's certainly a process to discover which locations to avoid and which are super reliable but as I start to get there it's more and more usable as a result. I'm firm of my belief that ultimately to live with an EV you need the ability to charge from home, and that's my intention with the arrival of the Shmuseum before long.
With the battery depleting down to 3% or 6 miles of range upon arrival at the 350kW Ionity charger, in theory the Taycan can run at up to 270kW but we're seeing figures from 100-110kW on the machine. Either way, the 5% to 80% charge time takes approximately 37 minutes, which would be easily achieved during the time you'd stop at a services for a break anyway. I can definitely see this working for me, and look forward to giving it a go in full.
Thanks for watching, Tim
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:53 Let's Go
04:06 Range Anxiety
08:46 Charge Time
10:28 Fail
11:56 Charging
15:28 Slow Down
18:06 Conclusion
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I think this is going to work! It's great to experience a rapid charger and how feasible it will be to get on the road with the Taycan in due course. It'll only be a case of time before I'm trying the journey to the Nurburgring and some laps when all opens up again. What do you think an EV Ring lap will be like?!
FAST and more compliant than a 911 or a McLaren
The heat must take a lot of Range out of The battery
But I think unfortunately it might take a while before you’re allowed traveling to the continent due to COVID-19😞
I'm looking forward to EV's but I'll miss the sound of a pure engine great video
Schmee, press the 4.40mi/min with your finger and it changes to kwh
"loaded with all of the convenience features, such as the door handles" I'm glad you took the option of the door handles
Those are actually an option on the Taycan xD
@@Shmee150 Whats the price for that option?
I'm not sure precisely but otherwise you'd have normal handles not the ones that fold in and out
@@Shmee150 ...so if you don't option door handles, I guess you just dive thru the windows, Dukes of Hazard style.... 🤭😁
Porsche Even offers some cars without floormats. A base Porsche probably feels like a rich men’s Dacia. Apart from the driving part. Actually thought you made a brillant joke before shmee came in. Then it became a more brilliant piece of irony.
13:00 it does. You just have to tap on the “mi/min” and it’ll show you the charging power (kW) And you should use the onboard navigation because it’ll preheat the battery for charging and speed up the charging-process
Correct, hopefully he’ll see your comment.
@@maximiliand2939 GIVE ME MORE THUMBS UP🤬😜
@@lhecker15 Can’t give you more than one ;)
But also that’s something you can/should expect from a dealership to show their customers, specially those that are new to EV’s.
@@maximiliand2939 But not in the current times. Just picked up a new car for my younger brother last friday and the only things done at the dealership were: Sign the last document, hand over the keys and show us where the car was parked. So it's not really possible for them to tell you more about your car
I find it interesting the range icon is still a gas can.
Just like the save icon is still a floppy disk
That’s because of the turbo charger
It‘s a charging station symbol as you can find them on official german street signs, e.g. nearby a city charger or on the exit to a charging stations on the autobahn
@@fatihdundar8359 lol
Describe a fuel pump... „Boxy device, about as tall as a person, with a cord/ hose connected to it. You put the other end of the cord/ hose into your car.“ Now describe a charging station for EVs...
Soon it will turn into a love / hate relationship between you and the Taycan.
Mostly hate I imagine the way he is already defending the indefensible, I mean over an hour to charge it fully, for people who don't have anywhere to charge at home and that's a lot of people it would be totally impractical as a car to take on any kind of long trip it would drive me mad having to hang around for at least 40 minutes every 2 to 3 hours.
@@cmpillred277 If you have off-street charging EVs are a no brainer going forward. We need charging to be available at supermarkets, shopping malls, work car parks etc for those who don't. Imagine you park your car at work for 9hrs and you have a full battery for your journey home. Normally you wouldn't charge an EV to 100%. It's not good for the battery, but also it's not an effectient use of time: much better to spend 30 mins charging to 80% and to make your way. Personally it would not bother me to stop for 30 mins every 3hrs say. It's probably safer to take a break every 200 miles of driving anyway. Have to agree the Taycan's range is dissapointing compared to a Tesla with up to 400 miles. I guess it depends on how often you do long trips!?
@@cmpillred277 Taycan is an impractical car BY Design. It's a crazy fast sports car with lots of compromises for High Performance. It has a freaking 90kwh battery the Ford Mach E would do 280 Miles on the same amount of charge. Range is a non issue when it's that high especially on the UK Isles.
It’s definitely less convenient for anyone without the ability to charge at home. I had a Model 3 Performance, and a 220V/30A outlet in my garage, so it was great- I set it to charge to 80%, or about 240 miles and plugged in whenever range was less than 100 mi when I got home from work. Whenever I knew I had a longer trip, just top it off overnight beforehand. And in central/south Texas the Tesla network is more than adequate.
@@cmpillred277 The Taycan is not a practical EV. But it flies.
If the battery is warm you should get
This video will be so fun to watch after 15 years. ;)
I'm actually going to be fascinated! Even my ICE stuff from 10 years ago is way out of date now
And in 15 years time people still won't know the difference between kW and kWh! In reality rapid charging isn't going to get much better than it is in terms of speed - there is only so much potential to force energy into batteries. What will be different is way, way more chargers - both slow ones wherever you stop overnight and faster ones for really long journeys.
@@andrewkeith5 maybe a solution would be hot swap battery’s, but you would need considerable more power in a smaller package. So you put your old battery in a charger and take out a new one. So it’s like a communal system. Sadly a battery that could be handled by hand wouldn’t give much range with current capacity. Technology isn’t available right now for long distance travel in a convenient manner.
@@damedusa5107 extremely unlikely. It's been tried at least twice - and frankly it would be slower than just plugging in to charge. 30 minutes is not a significant time to wait every 2 hours of driving. And frankly nobody should be doing more than 2 hours driving without a break anyway purely for safety reasons.
@@andrewkeith5 2 hours!! try telling that to an HGV driver.
Brilliant idea to take us along for the full experience of owning an electric I shall be watching closely as always. Cheers 🥂🤙
Thanks so much. I’ve had all kinds of trouble with Ionity. The official video tells you not to connect the cable first. Worked like a dream. Thanks.
So cool, that you let us participate your learnings. The battery was way to cold to charge faster, for sure. If you drive in an energy saving way for a couple of miles, the temperature is still very low. You can check the HV-battery temperature by customizing the right instrument in the dashboard. It's supposed to be at 35 Degree Celsius for a proper charge. Good news: you will achieve this for sure, when you charge on a long roadtrip. You can also see the kW you're charging with, when you press the miles/minute spec in the middle display. Are you sure, preheat/cool is conditioning the battery, or is it only to preheat/cool the interior of the car?
It’s fine using your own satnav in petrol cars but for electric ones, you really should be using the cars system for optimising routes/charges/efficiency and thus reducing range anxiety.
That was close.😬 Im glad you're in to ev now.more power and more road trip to come.wishing you a merry christmas! 🎄 cheers 🥂
I'm loving these "real world" videos. Well done 👍🏻🙏🏼
This is like watching the dawn of the automobile on KZhead.
Nothing like filling my 14 gallon tank up in 3 minutes, and getting > 300 miles out of it. I’m really not interested in an EV at this point, but the torque is amazing!
Same for my daily that I can get 600 miles out of and fill up fortnightly.
I probably would be annoyed too by stopping for charging but in reality how often do I even drive those distances and wouldn't it be safe to take a break after 3 hours of driving? It's just like my powerbank for my phone. I am annoyed that my phone doesn't last longer than 1 or 1 1/2 half days but in reality it isn't really a problem and I hardly ever need the extra power that the powerbank gvies me. I think right now you get used too chargin your car just like you got used to with your phone and in a couple of years the battery, charging and the station network have evolved enough that you can drive 99% of your distances without even thinking about it.
actually, when coming home after a full week of driving with my EV, all I need to do is put in the home charger which takes 1 minute and the next morning my car is ready to drive the next full week. So if you can charge at home it's not a big deal, I can say it's even easier as filling up a gas car. An extra advantage is the price, electricity still is way cheaper...
You won't have much choice soon
charge at home over night.......
So quiet and serene, nothing to distract from worrying about range. :)
shmee, I love that your adding timestamps in the video’s, more KZhead’s should do that!!! Thx!
The novelty of charging at distant stations having spent a fortune on the car, is not my idea of unmitigated joy
Looking forward to all of the journeys with the Taycan!
Me too, I'm actually quite enjoying it
@@Shmee150 there’s actually nothing that comes close. Glad to hear you enjoy it.
Yessss
Thanks for the video! I helps me empathize with clients.
Very informative videos on the EV. Appreciate you experimenting and taking us along. Certainly has brought me new perspective. Thanks for sharing it.
Imagine getting to the charging staton with only 3% left and only one charger available........which is out of order!!
Yep that would be unfortunate but the apps do tell you that in advance
@@Shmee150 did the app tell you the charger you tried first was out of order 🤔
It did, I only paid attention to the fact that nearly all of them were working and upon arrival didn't think to check which ones might have been offline. That one was actually up and running when I finished so I don't know what went wrong there or if I did something wrong.
if you have a Tesla you can see how many chargers is working how many is occupied. Should not be that hard for Ionity and Porsche to do the same.
@@Shmee150 if you close the charging door while the car is plugged in will it close or will it sense that it's still plugged
Beautiful car. Thrilled to be able to follow along for your ride.
Glad you enjoy it!
These videos are great, Tim! As a person considering an EV in the States it does help with perspective. Plus the Taycan is beautiful!
Flipping heck that seems a right faff on. The technology really needs to be improved if plans for 2030 are to go ahead.
You'll still have hybrids until 2035 and 2nd hand cars until at least 2050. Unless ICE cars are banned from roads at some point!? By then technology and infrastructure will have massively improved.
I hope so because that was a right load of shit
tech is fine, but only for those cars above 60k Euro
Agreed which the average household won't buy
@@shayflipz9098 exactly and those that cost 30k Euro are still expensive, but its a huge compromise and life with one will suck. (Zoe, e2008, Ioniq and etc)
"Mommy, why is there a guy taking a photo of his car while charging?"
Mum, why is that American kid saying, ''Mommy?''
@@TheEwanMC welcome to America my friend
@@mclarenspeedtail8988 the famous America where Shmee lives and where everybody drives on the left, right?
No america drives on the right side. Oops
which minute?
Good to see the learning curve on your charging, pre-heating the battery will improve charging speed and so will warmer weather , my battery is substantially smaller ( Nissan Leaf) and although longer trips definitely do take longer, I find I'm far more relaxed and refreshed after a long drive compared to my old Ice cars, range of EVs are definitely getting better as well charging speeds, the infrastructure does need to improve though and as your finding out Shmee, needs to be reliable!
Very refreshing to see somebody who loves petrol engine so much be so fair and understanding of electric cars. It really is impressive how fast they charge and the amount of stations.
Preheating makes no sense 10 seconds before you start charging.
Absolutely. Poor job by Porsche to not explain such things to new owners. Also, using the built-in nav set to a rapid charger as the destination may automatically turn on preheat at the exact right moment.
@@DavidAlpine1987 yes, but wih this low state of charge at arrival I am not sure it would even start to preheat..
@@DavidAlpine1987 Come on, that should be common sense. "A battery needs to preheat before you can charge it or not?" Come on.
The preHeat / cool button on the centre console on heats the interior not the batteries
Reminds me of the time we had very slow internet, trying to download something.
Back when it took 10 minutes to download KZhead on your phone and 1 minute to open... Good ol days
Like doing a torrent and towards the end, seeders drop out lol
Literally. One day this charging speed will be a joke to us.
I remember buying a lightning fast USRobotics56k6 modem. Same hell as Shmee is going through right now 😂
I don’t find the spec controversial at all, I think you have great tastes in specking your cars and this one is no exception. Love it
Hey shmee, I’m sure I saw somewhere that the car will remember where you use the lift system and do it automatically in the future? As always, great informative video. Merry Christmas and keep up the great work 👍
Not the best advert for EVs... Process seems tedious. Charge at home: no problem. Charge while underway: no way!
The re-charging seems like a right pain! A nightmare if you are in a hurry and all chargers are occupied. More needs to be done to reduce the re-charge time nearer to a petrol / diesel re-fuel experience.
Technology isn’t available yet. They are only good at local journeys where you can charge at home.
Think that’s why it better for cats to have a charger at home, think if Tim had one we might not be seeing these small hiccups. 🙏🏾😌Be Safe;-).
Hi, it was nice to meet you at Cobham services when you filmed this. Thank you for taking the time to chat. Loved the video! From Riley and his mum
Hi! Great vids. I have the Taycan Turbo. Great car. A few tips. While charging, if you press the text that says how many miles you get per minute, it will show you how many kw it’s charging with. Also if you tell the cars navigation that you are going to a charging station it will preheat the battery in advance and the charging will be much faster. You can see the battery temp on the third dial under “information”. You might already know. But just sharing 🙌🏻😊
Seems like a huge hassle unless you have the ability to charge in your garage!
Add to this, that to have the ability to fast charge, you need to have a Three Phase supply to the charging point. Houses are almost 100% single phase supplied, meaning your equivalent 45 minute charge on one of these would take you about 8 hours on a 13a home socket. If you have a higher range, (like the 500 mile I would need to replace my car for work) you're getting closer to 10 hours to charge from empty.
@@paul1978g Umm vast majority of Level 2 Chargers are Single Phase. 240 @ 35amp Single Phase is around 7KW. Charge time entirely depends on the SIZE of the battery. This has a 90kwh battery thus 90 / 7 = 12hrs. Taycan poorly uses the range only does like 220 miles. Other 90kwh BEVs should do 280 Miles for that over night charge. But in the end it's if you don't have somewhere to privately charge like at Home or Work. Currently BEVs are not suitable. Plenty of people have a place to charge more than Automakers can build BEVs.
@@paul1978g 8 hours is fine, you just plug the car in when you get home and it's ready the next morning. If you get home from work at 7pm, and leave at 7am that gives you 12 hours of charge. That should get you to work and back fine unless you live 200 miles from the office.
Herkimer Snerd The nearest I usually get to park to my home is 2 streets away so I'll need to super long cable.
Every EV driver I know charges at home, some overnight with off peak electricity. Find the app named ‘A better route planner.’ There are numerous Ionity Rapid chargers between London and the Nurburgring on the route via Dover, it shouldn’t be a drama unless you want it to be. Why not reach out to some fellow content creators with EV experience, you could have a Ring Road trip with various types of sporty EV’s?
The question I wanted to know which you didn’t answer was, how much did it cost you to charge it????
I’m looking forward to seeing your Nurburgring road trip with Taycan!
Shmee, I am loving your content and am so impressed with how you have developed the channel and the brand! I am a long time subscriber and was thrilled when you got your Taycan Turbo S. I drive a Jaguar iPace, had it for a year now and love it. I have only done one long road trip which was to Sandbanks from where I live in Surrey. I used the Ionity charger at Cobham service station on the way back and got from 5% to 80% in about 23 minutes, it was incredible. What was even more amazing was that it was free! I think this was because they had just been installed. What was missing from this video was how much you had to pay for the charge?
Welcome back. Big fan from the states 🙏
Thanks, can't wait to be back in the USA
Im just thinking about the rc cars i had when i was a kid that took like 6 hours to charge up😂
ugh that was the worst... 10 minutes of fun, 4+ hours of waiting to do it all over again!
Very interesting video, thanks for sharing
I like how you changed the Taycan from gray and drab to hot and cool and the SLS is going to sound cool with the new speaker
There’s a long way to go for EVs. Unless and until manufacturers figure out how to churn out 300+ miles of range and government implements fast chargers at all fuel stations, there will be always anxiety while taking them to longer road trips
It does appear that the charging stations suffer from the cold too and are laggy as hell... it really shouldn’t be stingy on the CPU or the weather shielding!
Awesome video yet again. Loving learning about the EV Life
Cool video. I enjoyed it!
Let’s be honest - for most people, owning a Porsche will never be a reality. I’ve also never really ‘wanted’ one, even as a dream car. But that Taycan is something else. The combination of luxury, technology and performance makes it so...alien...that I can’t help but covert it. It’s like a drivable lightsaber - it awakens a child-like awe in me.
This has made so many people not want an EV
He is making it sound stupidly difficult. In reality you turn up, plug it in and its sorted. Tesla have it sorted with their supercharging network. Other brands just want to sell cars.
We don't have charging networks in the UK or if we do they are few and far between, this is rubbish
@@bagster8660 Lol, if anyone "just want to sell cars" it's Tesla. They literally want you to throw your car away if it gets a small dent. Just like Apple. Get a new one if the old one isn't working like it should. Porsche builds cars to deliver a good product. Tesla builds cars to play with tech.
Great video. I had no idea how this worked 👍🏻
When I see how difficult it is for you to operate a charger, be very thankful for KZhead because I am positive now that there are many basic jobs which you would not be able to do. Thank your lucky stars!
Taycan won't be around for long, the whole charging thing seems stressful for tim
Makes for more interesting videos! Also, by having an EV he has a foot in the next evolution of cars and attracts a new viewer mainly into EVs. Imagine how difficult it was when cars first launched and there were no petrol stations. Infrastructure takes time.
If he gets home charging, he will find charging to be very convenient.
I really hope that people like shmee buying these type of cars will help speed up the process of putting the chargers out in the world
it would be a good thing if the Batteries would be removable so you can take it in your house or apartment and charge it there. it would need another smaller one for keeping the car locked etc
@@DJJumpdancer true. But carrying a car battery won't be easy or small.
Great review and video. On 3% to 100% . Road trip time with porsche app
Hi Shmee, glad you are liking your Taycan this far and getting comfortable with driving an EV. As stated by another comment you can click on the mi/min in the Touchscreen when charging to change the unit to kW/h. If it wasn't the charging infrastructure in this attempt that was limiting your charge speed, it surely was the battery temperature. The battery temperature is a crucial point when trying to charge an EV fast. You can configure it in the PCM to get your current battery temperature shown in your right gauge of the instrument cluster (where the state of charge is also shown). The optimum temperature of the Taycans battery is about 32 degrees celsius. This temperature will be reached when driving for a longer period of time on the country road or the motorway. It can be sped up by setting your desired charging station via POI Search in the navigation system as your destination. Then the car knows when a charge will happen and will automatically preheat or precool the battery to give you an optimized charging speed. I myself have seen 260 kWh charging speedes in the Taycan multiple times. This makes the charge an easy 25 Minute stay and the car really usable on road trips. Cheers!
Best series you're doing at the minute
Glad you're enjoying the learning journey with me
Watching your issues and anxiety with this is giving me some as well. I couldn’t own an electric car without a home charger.
Loving these EV contents, Tim. Merry Christmas and looking forward to 2021 with all these new projects and plans. #teamshmee150 😊
The precool / heat button on the console is for cabin heat and cool precondition not the battery , You have to use the navigation system and tell it your going to a charger to precondition the battery. The charging speed is directly related to the condition of the battery when you plug in to charge (proper temp / state of charge) . I recommend you try again using the nav and allowing for proper pre conditioning. I love my tacan and I can get from 10 to 80 in about 23 minutes @ 150 KWH or faster if preconditioned. Love the color you chose. Cheers from the USA !
Incredible charging speed !! Great Video :)
Thanks a lot!
@@Shmee150 Thank You for replying to me. Can you please do more 675LT and Vantage GT8 :)
Yes it's a new experience but shmee is definitely underwhelmed if not disappointed by the current situation
Then he shouldn't of bought a Taycan, which was massively compromised in Range for high performance.
@@Neojhun I suspect most car enthusiasts are drawn to the performance of such EV's,and not saving the environment or getting loads of miles for a bargain price,so a long range milk float just ain't going to cut the mustard for people like Tim. It shouldn't really be a case of pick performance and expect to waste your life away at a charging station.
@@TheTechGiantKZhead Taycan is in own case where they lacked the technological ability thus was massively compromised. It does not represent other BEVs. E.g. it is over weight by like 300kg, default does not aggressively use Regen, overkill way too wide 285 tires. They could of made the car more efficient closer to 3.5 Mile per Kwh giving 270 Miles. It is currently one of the worst at 2 Miles per Kwh. Making Charging Per Mile much faster. While still be a fun rocket ship with more oversteer playful rear end. This was Not a Trade, this was unfairly compromised.
@@Neojhun They could *have
EVs simply add zero advantages but challenges many normal car users. Saving the planet is the only point of appreciation, everything else just hype you realize you didn't need.
Tim you shouldn’t have any problems doing your European road trip. I live near Düsseldorf in Germany and went to see my parents back in the UK near Lancaster in my Tesla and it was simple. Car worked out all the charging stops for me and with autopilot on it was so relaxing. Looking forward to seeing you come over here and by the way you could visit Europe’s biggest charging station which is near where I live in Hilden.
Good vidéo !!! Your tycan look amazing !!!!
Unless I have a charger at home it's a big no no :(
install a diesel generator 😁
@@artureff3046 then what’s the point of going electric if you’re buying diesel
@@artureff3046 Some people would actually do that as well.
@@bradenmchenry995 I think you've been had.
@@artureff3046 I still think the Fisker Karma had the best solution...
Always the highlight of the day, a Shmee video!
Thank you for the support
That color is beautiful 👌
I’m glad you are taking us on the EV journey. I don’t like EVs but the Taycon Turbo S is my favorite EV if I had to choose. Thank goodness I will be dead before EVs are the norm but appreciate you showing us the life.
I know it’s still fairly new technology but hanging around for 87 minutes on a ‘rapid’ charger makes it seem hugely impractical.
I think the Tesla is much less than that.
You wouldn't normally charge it over 80% unless you were going on a long trip. Not having a charger at home is a huge disadvantage too. I would just hire an ICE vehicle if I needed to to a long trip fast anyway.
it is his dumb fault for doing this on purpose, most people will charge their car in their own garage so it's fine.
And that’s if you can find a charger, wait until 50% of the road fleet is EV. Ever waited for fuel at a motorway station? The average full up is 5-7mins. Now think about people doing an 80% charge in 45 mins. The car parks will be full and people will be queuing hours to find a charge spot (even assuming every spot has a charger that’s working). And for those that say “charge at home” try living in London/greater London and having a spot outside your house.
@@robinellard defo got a long way to go. Maybe car ownership wont be a thing though and we will just drive a different car depending on the days requirements but it's a long way off I think. I for one love the idea of an ev instead of ic but not till its pticed better.
I already did 16k with my Turbo S. This car charging over night at home and staying within the range is a great thing. For anything else use your petrol car
So glad to hear you're enjoying the Taycan. Going by my own experience (owning an EV) I figured you would like it, but I was still nervous to head what you'd think as there are still many harsh critics and skeptics (which is usually justified to some extent) especially in this car enthusiast scene. Stay safe mate!
Loved the sound of the taycan😍
The electric sound or the lack of sound?
@@Shmee150 He may be talking about the electric sound
@@Shmee150 Or he was just taking the "P"
Imagine being half an hour in the gas stationn and not even leaving with a full tank
Imagine having to go to a gas station, eewww. I can have a "gas pump" at my home.
Lithium-Ion batteries should never be charged above 80%. He did this to protect the life of the battery.
@@tbn22 That's only for High Powered Charging. Slow Charging is fine if you go up to 95% and instantly use it drive off. Just do not Store it at 95% long term.
I was thinking of a 4s to replace my macan gts, not a chance, who wants to hang around for so long ??
@@robertwoolliscroft5657 Yep problematic 1st gen car.
Even if they put x10 chargers throughout Europe its still going to be a HUGE amount of waiting for spot even
WRONG, You are not supposed to use DC Fast Chargers as your main charing method. Level 2 Chargers are basicaly just high amperage 240v plus that can be placed in many more location. There already exist 10x DC Chargers in the form of Level 2 parking spaces.
No. Most of the charging is done at home. Regardless of the lies that people who don't like the EV idea will tell you, you very very rarely get anywhere near draining your battery. An electric vehicle of any kind, is supposed to be plugged in when you leave it. It will then always be ready to go. Fast chargers are mostly used for longer trips.
I don’t think the Taycan is one of your top ten cars but your electric car videos are the most intriguing.
Fun real life review with your Porsche, a whole different experience, even from behind my screen! And on the travel front, I hope APEX will install an EV wall charger, if they haven't already :)
In a previous video the car was at a 100% after being plugged in overnight I think. So not the first time :)
Have not seen a charge station with a roof, overlooked in the rush!
Well, since you give pay information before chatging, may as well wait inside the car. Besides, do all bus stops in your area have a roof?
@@IceAce1 My experience of charge points is numerous angry EV owners fighting over the one and only functional charger while the other nine chargers are out of order, and trying to work out which adaptor to use and how to get the charging process to begin, because the chargers all have different interfaces and no common payment system etc.
@@IceAce1 Yes, all of them. Now unless the plug'll automatically plug itself to the socket w/out you ever having to get out of the car, they should really account for the fact that it rains in most part of the world, and for the poor bastards that left their umbrellas at home when designing a charging station. There’s no excuse for that.
@@WeAreSMC96 Your comment about automatic plug-ins made me remember: they are currently operating a charging test track for lorries here. It's about 10km on a public Autobahn where lorries can charge overhead, _while_ driving (much like electric trains). Just to say, going to be interesting how charging is evolving - post-umbrella. ;)
Nice 'real world' vlog, the charging network needs to improve massively before I will consider an ev. p.s when are we going to get the "cold start" start to a video ;) Cheers.
This is awesome car! Wow!! I was drawing porsche Cross country
I just can't be dealing with this if I'm on a long trip. Even a Tesla is too stressful compared to just refueling a petrol and or diesel and being on my way in a few minutes.
Tesla Supercharger network is far better and give you a lot more confidence on road trips.
And it still doesn’t come close to filling my cars tank with 61 litres of fuel in 5 minutes and then not worrying about refuelling for the next 700 miles. Tesla is definitely heading in the right direction though.
Same thing was said about mobile phones, I'm sure.
@TFUSION Enjoy your bicycle, a few years from now.
Range Anxiety is very real, you're constantly thinking about it.
I have that with my cellphone... it randomly shuts off at 35% or lower... hah...
no you’re not. if you can charge it overnight at home. of course it’s difficult for Tim because he can’t.
I've had range anxiety plenty of times in my Honda civic. If I had an electric car I would always be able to wake with a full battery. However, for those regularly doing long trips the charging infrastructure needs to improve.
It's a non issue for BEVs with close to 300 miles. This one has a combination Slow Per Mile charge rate and Sub 250 miles.
I feel like the Tycan would look absolutely gorgeous in this colour with the wheels in the colour of the launch spec GT2RS wheels
Hey Tim great vid as always. One comment - when in traffic and at a standstill it’s not like you’re using any charge unlike petrol engines. You only use the battery while moving, other than very slight usage for air con/heat. A large traffic jam doesn’t use more battery at all.
Pretty screwed if you get somewhere and the charging bays are out of order
yes or which are working are occupied, how do you plan for this?
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 imagine waiting an hour to get a vacant bay lmao
Could you tell us how much it costs to “fill it up” from 3% to 100% I’m still confused as to how much it’s costs to fuel an EV in the UK.
Agreed. Plus what about the “cost” of getting to the charge station and back . Could that be an extra 25%
Looking at the Ionity website, if you're not on a contract, their super-fast 350kWh chargers cost 69p per kWh - which is WAY more than most 'rapid' chargers at about 30-40p per kWh, so you're really paying for the super-fast charge speed, in the same way you would be for 'super-fast broadband' etc Therefore, with, say an 85 kW charge = 85 x 69p = £58.65 which is about the equivalent of 11.5 gallons of £1.12 per litre fuel, about the cheapest you can get in the UK presently. Therefore, for about 200 miles of range, that equates to an ICE car doing around 17mpg, which sounds terrible, in all honesty, when Shmee's McLaren Senna should do around 22mpg for the same performance. But, at a 'more normal' 40p per kWh rapid 150kWh charger cost, which would take about 40 mins to charge the Taycan - enough for a comfort break and coffee after 3 hours of driving - the Senna would have to be doing around 30mpg to be as cost effective...! You pays ya' money - you takes ya' choice...
@@jonathantaylor1998 cheers. Still can’t really understand the KwPH thing. I’ll have to educate myself on it more. I kind of don’t understand if it’s really that much cheaper or not
Really starting to appreciate the consistency of your channel. By far the best in my opinion! 🇿🇦
I appreciate that!
@Shmee150 Tim as others have said that you can get the kilowatt display by simply pressing on the miles per minute on the center console. This also works on the Porsche Connect app. Also the preheat button in the car is only for cabin preheating it does not affect the battery except secondarily because current drain will warm it slightly. To keep the battery you have to use the onboard navigation to a known DCFC or you Sport+ mode as you suggested. That information dial on the dashboard can be changed to add a battery temperature, I find that very handy. You want to have 85F+ charging at a decent speed. I have had my Taycan at 1,2,3% for DCFC, I find it's range estimates to be very accurate. Also I get around 250 KW charging quite regularly though California temperatures are not as cold as what you are seeing right now. I think with some planning you will do fine on a road trip to the Nurburgring. On the unplugging thing, when you press the button on the Taycan the first time and the light turned white and the light above the plug socket turned on then the car has released the latch and you are free to unplug the car. I totally agree it is a learning process, I have had my car for 1 month and thoroughly enjoy the learning but especially the driving. You also may want to pickup a Tesla Destination Charger adapter for the Taycan. Then stay at a hotel like Tiergarten which is next to the ring and has Tesla chargers which would give you 11kW so at least you're 100% each morning.
Next day : taking my Porsche taycan towards the nurburgring The next next day: leaving the nurburgring in my Porsche taycan
Good to catch up and get the Turbo S’s together! ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
You bet! What a random coincidence to bump into you there
Very interesting video! I don’t think I’ve seen anyone actually just discover the charging process! Thankyou for showing you trying understand how the car works as compared to your normal encyclopaedic knowledge 😂
Great video!!
I was literally watching as the notification of this video popped up clicked on it immediately and there's already likes and comments 😂
Welcome!
The notification come some time after The video starts. In UK time it’s normaly 20.00 In my timezone it’s 21.00 I Think US time is 6 hours delay so 15.00 aka 3.00 PM
Same here. Clicked immediately upon being notified. 8000 views already
The car actually looks stunning in that wrap. Not quite sure about the wheels, but hey🤷🏼♂️still cool!
I agree with you about the wrap but I think the wheels look really good, I was quite skeptical when he first mentioned painting them gold.
Nice choice of color!
Hello shmee , nice video as always ! If you are fed up to click on the lift button you can save the data where you need to use it and it will do it automatically next time you gonna come over the bumper or a place where you need to lift it up.
The reference in this video was on a road I'd never driven before but with the bump layouts in London you speed up enough between each one that you then have to put it up again
I get range anxiety even in my petrol car. This is my worst nightmare.
Interesting. It would be fun to see how you would actually wait if all charging points were full. I guess you park in the next bay, and just hope no-one else is doing the same? Could end up with a fight on the forecourt between EV owners 😆. Unlikely I know, but with my luck, probably not impossible...
NON ISSUE as you are show Charger Occupancy on the MAPs way before you arrive. Simply do not go to full charging locations.
Shmee when using the lift function do you get the option to save the location automatically so it lifts at the same point in the future, this is one of the best features I have seen on my Taycan. Maybe its an update and you haven't got it loaded yet. I found a setting to automatically load updates somewhere or other, sorry cant be more helpful.
Great video Sir. Thank you for sharing your petrol head to EV driver experiences. I am in the same boat and had my Taycan Cross Turismo for 4 months now during which I put almost 6000 miles on it. Fortunately I can charge at home and do so about 2-3 nights per week up to the recommended 85% max. You can tap on the charging display miles/minute to see the kW/minute. Also you should use the Porsche Navigation/Route Planner when driving to chargers so the car can preheat the battery. Your initial charging seemed to be only around 110 kW which is significantly lower that what my fast charger experiences at Electrify America 350 kW chargers has been. Typically I have gotten at least around 200 kW initial charge (with less than 10% battery capacity left and preheated battery), sometimes as high as 240-250 kW. That way 5%-80% in 25 minutes is actually realistic.
Hey Andreas love reading your experience, working hard af to get my dream car that happens to be the Taycan Cross, what would you say that are the biggest handicaps? thanks mate