How to Make Carbon Fiber Parts (Including the Mold)

2024 ж. 22 Мам.
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I walk you through the entire process of making a carbon fiber replica of a part, including how to make the mold. For a complete materials list, including links, click the link below:
docs.google.com/document/d/1y...
I failed to mention ventilation in the video, but make sure you have sufficient ventilation when working with epoxies. And PLEASE avoid contact with your skin. Some resins are worse than others, but no matter which system you use if you don't take the proper precautions then you WILL eventually develop a sensitivity to it. That can mean rashes, blisters, and even breathing problems. Take care of yourself when working with this stuff.

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  • Dude. Finally. A how to with no crappy music, just straight instruction and how-to. Well done. Subbed.

    @micsierra806@micsierra8065 жыл бұрын
    • Not a single chipmunk/eurobeat in there. Agreed!

      @trenchtown69@trenchtown695 жыл бұрын
    • Ya it was thorough but skipped the obvious work, while including valuable details... And a haircut ? huh

      @silversrayleigh8980@silversrayleigh89805 жыл бұрын
    • Best how to ever. Period.

      @danielharrison7565@danielharrison75655 жыл бұрын
    • Daniel Harrison yeah for someone that doesn't know what they're doing

      @paulinadeluca9117@paulinadeluca91174 жыл бұрын
    • Daniel Harrison Really?🤔🤔🤔🤔

      @mlinecomposites1@mlinecomposites14 жыл бұрын
  • *looks at every body panel on car

    @cameronbeyer7687@cameronbeyer76875 жыл бұрын
    • How to make my miata a rolling death wish lol.

      @joshbrock2663@joshbrock26634 жыл бұрын
    • This!

      @livedeliciously@livedeliciously4 жыл бұрын
    • You mean every part

      @theycallmewoodstock1756@theycallmewoodstock17564 жыл бұрын
    • I was wondering. What would you do for a rough surface? I noticed your piece was very smooth. Everything I want to work on is rough.

      @1120mrevo@1120mrevo4 жыл бұрын
    • @@1120mrevo he mentions at the beginning that the resin will copy the texture

      @angrymario8259@angrymario82594 жыл бұрын
  • Love that you did not edit anything out & make it look like everything went smoothly. Also the fact that with 10 years experience you still had issues and you shared that means a lot. It looks simple but it is always in the details and you shared those. Thanks mate. Rare to see that in all the many how to videos on anything. Kudos to you. Keep it up love the transparency.

    @BabaG@BabaG4 жыл бұрын
    • Honesty is the best policy. 👌

      @albandrejaj@albandrejaj2 жыл бұрын
  • Good video. I like the fact you messed up so people can see how a normal process goes. It’s not as easy as some videos make it look. Good job. I’m always looking for other people’s takes on how to get it done.

    @rongravel4585@rongravel45855 жыл бұрын
    • Same you

      @inventor1978@inventor19784 жыл бұрын
    • Ron Gravel I think he made to many mistakes for 10yrs of experience. Crappy flange, carbon powder for pigment🤨 I understand u wanna see mistakes, but he says he has the experience, it’s just the worst experience I’ve ever seen. It only teaches the rookie that this is all ok, it’s not Clean molds, clean parts. If u haven’t seen Easy Composites videos or Airtech videos u will or a novice will think this is ok 👌🏾, it isn’t, just sayin

      @mlinecomposites1@mlinecomposites14 жыл бұрын
    • You are right but he did say it was a hard part to start with and no vac

      @ls680ta@ls680ta3 жыл бұрын
    • If you are going to teach to make molds you have to learn to do it yourself. Remember, the kids trying this is going to spend money on their fails... -And why the hell do you use weave on the mold? -You even had problems on that easy , tiny part...

      @espenbjrnbak3863@espenbjrnbak38633 жыл бұрын
  • This is one of the greatest how to videos I have seen on KZhead. None of the usual garbage of stupid blaring music, horrible commentary, bad lighting, crappy camera work. Thank you sir! Excellent job!

    @SoldierFortheCross@SoldierFortheCross3 жыл бұрын
  • Nice instructional video. I liked the fact that you discussed some of the mistakes made during the process. Awesome job!

    @PorscheMonster@PorscheMonster5 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you, I think this was the first tutorial I didn't fast forward through, Your simple layman's term explanations made this one of my favorite videos, Easy Composites company does similar but fail to help us understand the principal reason each piece of material and steps value to the end result... In other words.. BRAVO!

    @johnbrevard5966@johnbrevard59664 жыл бұрын
  • I like how you start in the kitchen, it reeks of accessibility.

    @Clarence_13x@Clarence_13x3 жыл бұрын
  • This was very informative and complete while still being quite concise! Thanks!

    @Bittertokken@Bittertokken4 жыл бұрын
  • Just happened upon your video when I searched how to make carbon fiber parts. Clicked on yours and another dude's videos. His had a long intro and crappy music, so I watched yours. Thanks for helping me to feed my own creative juices. Subbed.

    @bravo4adventure988@bravo4adventure9884 жыл бұрын
  • Great vid. Best how to diy on the tube. Clear and concise. Thanks for making this. You really shared alot of knowledge

    @gypsyjones1450@gypsyjones1450 Жыл бұрын
  • i love your video and how you talk so humble and sincerety and so down to earth

    @DjJerryofficialChannel1@DjJerryofficialChannel14 жыл бұрын
  • New nice good to learn the process, hope this is going to get us the teaching we are seeking. Very informative educational and step by step building up our confidence to attempt this on a piece ourselves. That ply angle difference lesson was very important to build a sturdy mold. Nice you share your mistakes, they occur even after a decade plus of knowledge and sharing the challenges you experience and why are good to actually teach the rest of us. Nice work good job. Thank you. Lance & Patrick.

    @ActiveAtom@ActiveAtom4 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent info, I'm making some custom pieces for my car (rear seat delete cover) and I didn't wanna cheap out on wood and carpet, so I'm thinking of making some CF pieces myself for a cool project, and unique look.

    @FWDFanatic@FWDFanatic4 жыл бұрын
  • Keep the videos coming! Well done on the tutorial..... VERY elaborate and thank you for actually explaining why you use the products that you use..... Im looking forward to more, especially when you mentioned the vacuum pump!

    @shawnprince7080@shawnprince70805 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for the kind words. I'm looking forward to making more videos with the vacuum pump. I'm in the middle of a cross-country move, so for the next month or two I won't have a shop to make stuff in. Once I'm set up, though, I'd like to do a vacuum bagging tutorial.

      @SasquatchComposites@SasquatchComposites5 жыл бұрын
  • yea buddy...... to be honest i was impressed at first with the amount of equipment you had to use and i got to say i am going to give this a try! I wish i could give a detail examination the finished product. Great work and do more!

    @arthurm4709@arthurm47095 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you! I am resto-modding a C3 Corvette and I want to make reproduction gauge bezels out of carbon fiber for the interior. This video is exactly what I needed as a tutorial so I will be trying these methods out when I start rebuilding my interior! Thanks again.

    @Chris-hq7nl@Chris-hq7nl4 жыл бұрын
    • How did it go?

      @lsedanolg@lsedanolg8 ай бұрын
    • @@lsedanolg I ended up going with metal 🤷🏻‍♂️

      @Chris-hq7nl@Chris-hq7nl8 ай бұрын
  • Man, you opened my mind to a world i didn't even know. Thank you

    @bevs908@bevs9082 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for not rushing

    @michaelvasquez185@michaelvasquez1852 жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic. Thank you for taking the time and sharing your expertise. Very much appreciated!

    @davidt3559@davidt35593 жыл бұрын
  • What I learned: vacuum bagging is essential for a quality finish. Vacuum bag the mold too.

    @livedeliciously@livedeliciously4 жыл бұрын
    • that not as easy asmany make it look!! but if you can i feel best also

      @budsbustbi6339@budsbustbi63394 жыл бұрын
  • "And this is how you want it to look" he says as he pours pitch black epoxy into cup with his pitch black t-shirt in the background. :-) (great guide nonetheless but that made me laugh)

    @kuhndj67@kuhndj674 жыл бұрын
    • 😂🤣😂

      @sebastiandellosa4616@sebastiandellosa46163 жыл бұрын
  • A roller for installing screens in a window works very well for the sharp edges to get clean tight lines

    @audirx8@audirx85 жыл бұрын
    • @Ed Jack you can buy purpose made metal/alloy rollers of various shapes & sizes for fibre glass & carbon fibre however the issue with those are they do get cacked up with resin very quickly, a simple hard edge to lay & rub on the insides works better & can easily be cleaned up.

      @malp6280@malp62805 жыл бұрын
  • Really good video. Very clear, informative and honest. Thanks!

    @jamesluff8415@jamesluff8415 Жыл бұрын
  • this is the way all video tutorials should be

    @hch142@hch1425 жыл бұрын
  • Really useful guide. Thinking of doing this for part of the center console in my car

    @pauliecabs@pauliecabs11 ай бұрын
  • great video. i actually learned something. no weirdness, just a great how to.

    @guysmiley7957@guysmiley79573 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome! Super helpful, thanks!!!

    @JLone55@JLone555 жыл бұрын
  • Nice video, would love to see you wearing a mask and informing about the dangers of silica

    @gravytrainexp6194@gravytrainexp61944 жыл бұрын
  • He chose a good piece for this. Really complex, not just a plain board

    @brallantp.2812@brallantp.28122 жыл бұрын
  • This was an Awesome HTDIY, I've been wanting to learn the how to process of making a Mold to a carbon fiber part. Your the man, thank you. I'm trying to find a trade school that has metal fabrication, fiber glass and carbon fiber in Florida but there are none here

    @tirsomejia1949@tirsomejia1949 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video. I am currently doing a lost foam version of a fuselage but want to move to mold making in the future.

    @thenatedog@thenatedog5 жыл бұрын
    • Awesome! I tried doing lost foam methods when I was first starting out and never could get good results. I've seen others make great ones, though. I've made two fuselage molds for DLGs by hand now and while it's a lot of work, it's worth it once you've got a design you like. The quality of parts you can make is just so much better with a proper mold.

      @SasquatchComposites@SasquatchComposites5 жыл бұрын
  • All done in the kitchen. Thats how i do! Great video!

    @yorhomierussian@yorhomierussian5 жыл бұрын
  • Man, you have such a Bob Ross Style.. thank you for the Video!

    @ErMeGeDDoN@ErMeGeDDoN4 жыл бұрын
  • THANKS finally one with out some music !

    @X862go@X862go Жыл бұрын
  • Good job! Really informative... I've never done any of this stuff... I just have some projects in mind for later... I thought this might be a good idea: Powder plaster clay for molds (just shape-n-bake) Carbon fiber clay sheets (just wrap-n-bake around the mold) Then drill out the inner powder plaster with a rotary brush. ;) Thought this might be alot more fun to do...

    @jv-iq9uz@jv-iq9uz5 жыл бұрын
  • Chopped Strand Mat will handle those contours better. Thanks for the video!

    @Korupshenv1@Korupshenv15 жыл бұрын
  • Nice video. Well explained and edited. thank you

    @michaelhockus8208@michaelhockus8208 Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video, thanks.

    @BodyFracturesAlso@BodyFracturesAlso5 жыл бұрын
  • no joke this looks like a trap house for carbon fiber manufacturing lol

    @llNATEDOGGll@llNATEDOGGll5 жыл бұрын
    • LOOK AT THE FLICK OF THE WRIST!

      @mikej7237@mikej72375 жыл бұрын
    • sometimes the best results come from the most unlikely of places

      @danhammond9967@danhammond99674 жыл бұрын
    • @@danhammond9967 works on two levels

      @habib1971@habib19714 жыл бұрын
    • This made.mme lose my shit

      @tonizippar4523@tonizippar45233 жыл бұрын
    • He's right. Like this is our best comment boys.

      @tonizippar4523@tonizippar45233 жыл бұрын
  • Always use tooling jell coat ! Also use a fiberglass roller to get the bubble's out !

    @williammolchan3883@williammolchan38835 жыл бұрын
    • keep reading the sale brochures!! millions of jobs done with brush ans many done with just hands! rollers are for big jobs!

      @budsbustbi6339@budsbustbi63394 жыл бұрын
  • Your part came out much better than some other vids. Glad I watched.

    @derekmeeks4006@derekmeeks40064 жыл бұрын
  • Useful video. Thanks!

    @LindyDesignLab@LindyDesignLab5 жыл бұрын
  • Very honest video…. Great job!!

    @shanewallace2045@shanewallace2045 Жыл бұрын
  • This looks very helpful,thanks!

    @jamejobs4909@jamejobs49094 жыл бұрын
  • I’m a nurse but I love learning. Always loved the carbon fiber design very masculine but any who, super cool detailing!

    @riogrl324@riogrl3243 жыл бұрын
  • I appreciate you not editing your mess ups to make it look like it doesn't ever happen. Subscribe and now everything i own is carbon fiber😋

    @patrickmitchell100@patrickmitchell1004 жыл бұрын
    • Patrick Mitchell I just had to add that the mistakes wouldn’t have happened if he would’ve used the proper materials from the beginning For instance: instead of foam board- styrene sheet, smooth is better, always care about your flange Carbon fiber for pigment- or how bout just black pigment, much cheaper than actual carbon graphite powder. The powder can be used for whatever but the true intention is a filler where carbon is truly needed For the mold woven fiber throughout- how about a couple of layers of woven, the rest chopped strand mat, it’s cheaper I just think it could’ve been a lil better

      @mlinecomposites1@mlinecomposites14 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you so much mate, appreciate this vid.

    @zanderxxx2076@zanderxxx20765 жыл бұрын
  • nice video. i would of liked more shots of the final product though. Never got to see what it looked like finished

    @jweissy@jweissy5 жыл бұрын
  • Very informative Thanks for the tutorial

    @jabeamasalo6073@jabeamasalo6073 Жыл бұрын
  • Hi Thanks for the very instructional video.

    @hendrikhanso@hendrikhanso4 жыл бұрын
  • This is awesome stuff.......I have zero composite experience but would a heavy duty plastic bag and a vacuum help keep the plies from lifting?

    @dhowting@dhowting4 жыл бұрын
  • Great video! So how many pulls can you do off of a mold made like this? I love the fact that you don't have to use gel coat

    @anthonyletourneau2696@anthonyletourneau26963 жыл бұрын
  • Great video man🤙🏻just a white t-shirt would've been a great idea 😉

    @iamerighi@iamerighi3 жыл бұрын
  • Cool vid. Learned alot. Have you made anything longer than 90inches?

    @pierreduplessis1507@pierreduplessis15074 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome tutorial.

    @rubenmborgesmusic@rubenmborgesmusic2 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome video. It actually explains what is going on lol and how to.

    @carlosgarza8441@carlosgarza84414 жыл бұрын
  • seriously thank you sooo much for this detailed video, I really appreciate a lot, please make more, I been working with carbon fiber for a while but this helps me up my skills thanxx

    @carbonzoidproductions4266@carbonzoidproductions42665 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome video, I'm about to do some panels in my boat and maybe the consoles if I get brave. 👍🏻

    @PaintballShyguy@PaintballShyguy5 жыл бұрын
  • Great video, thank you!

    @Henry11111@Henry11111 Жыл бұрын
  • wow this was, easier than i though it was going to be (though mold making does take practice!)

    @twentylush@twentylush3 жыл бұрын
  • Great video. Do you have a tip or how make mold of the backside of car trim parts? Those trim pieces have tiny plastic prongs so they can latch onto the car.

    @ntrddragn@ntrddragn4 жыл бұрын
  • I just suffered through 30 seconds of a meaningless ad to give money to a complete stranger, this vid better be good Edit: I am glad I gave a random person money it was worth it :)

    @simpilot001@simpilot0013 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks so much I never new how that was done thanks

    @brandonfowler5428@brandonfowler54283 жыл бұрын
  • First!!! Hope you are enjoying your time with the fam. Super cool to see you doing this stuff!

    @alexmangum7269@alexmangum72695 жыл бұрын
  • I have a question, what if on the backside you have got tabs to keep the part in place in the bike itself? How do you attach the part now and is there a way to create new tabs,

    @SpaceHunterLPSpaceHunterLP@SpaceHunterLPSpaceHunterLP4 жыл бұрын
  • great video. usefulle information (y) thanks man !

    @Albert87nl@Albert87nl5 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome info bro! Thanks!

    @brianpearce7434@brianpearce74344 жыл бұрын
  • Good job. Great video

    @volvo24091@volvo240913 жыл бұрын
  • Great Video, don't worry about any of the issues you had as they are more informative and helpful compared to a perfect job. Only suggestion would be to get a better microphone and maybe show a few close ups during the job. Will definitely look out for more of your videos. Thank you

    @leegrattan467@leegrattan467 Жыл бұрын
  • Vacuum bagging would solve a lot of the void problems. Envelope bagging would be perfect.

    @guadalupe_rodriguez@guadalupe_rodriguez2 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks. Really great

    @videossimon4288@videossimon42883 жыл бұрын
  • You've really put together an excellent instructional video on this process. Thank you very much. Do you think that starting your layup with a lighter cloth would help with the tight areas? I've been meaning to do a plug and a mold for a couple of micro edf projects for some time but I'm still working on getting my cnc mill, 3d printing and my 3d modeling up to spec before getting into the actual tooling. Thanks again!

    @primate2744@primate27445 жыл бұрын
    • Yes, lighter cloth can conform to tight areas easier. Using a twill weave can help as well.

      @SasquatchComposites@SasquatchComposites5 жыл бұрын
  • You can also use a paint roll to get out the air from the fiber instead of your finger or the brush ,works better just saying 😁

    @Carrizales-bn5dm@Carrizales-bn5dm5 жыл бұрын
  • nice walk through of the techniques, looks like it could be use to make model fuselages. Your other video on the dlg tail is really good too (inspired to give that a go at some point). Only suggestion is PLEASE use breathing protection when using coloidal silica... it gets airborne easily and is really bad for your lungs.

    @cjpixel@cjpixel5 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, I really ought to. I've never worried about it since I'm always mixing such small batches, but you're right. Exposure over time is probably what'll end up getting me if I'm not careful.

      @SasquatchComposites@SasquatchComposites5 жыл бұрын
  • I would like to see how do make parts with a vacuum pump too, since I have one, and I really want to make show quality parts for my bike. Thanks!

    @bravo4adventure988@bravo4adventure9884 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you man I know it’s 3 years old but this is so helpful subscribing forsure I have a few questions on what I’m going to need for a project I want to make first

    @jordanfresquez3848@jordanfresquez3848 Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video

    @simsyndicate8444@simsyndicate84443 жыл бұрын
  • very nice and original. thanks

    @besteriophonic@besteriophonic4 жыл бұрын
  • I love this... Thank you

    @jetskechers5354@jetskechers5354 Жыл бұрын
    • You're welcome 😊

      @SasquatchComposites@SasquatchComposites Жыл бұрын
  • Best using a layer of tissue (or you may call it veil) continuous fibre mat, directly on the back of your tooling/gel coat, followed by 225gm csm before your woven layers. Very rare to get the gel coat separating and you can use one less layer of woven mat.

    @jackimo22@jackimo225 жыл бұрын
  • You're missing a coupling layer between the tooling coat and the first layer of glass laminate. I tend to wet out the tacky tooling coat with a mix of resin and cotton flocks (renders the resin also a thixotropic depending how much cotton you add), the resin still being quire runny so that is also a first wet layer for the next layer of glass. Then the steps that cause air bubbles can be filled by taking some of the coupling coat mixture and adding more cotton flocks and some micro ballons. This will make it into a putty that you can fillet into the edges to smooth out the curve of the surface. Since it's all still wet the first layer of glass (I tend to start with a thinner cloth 80-100 g/m2) will follow the contours perfectly and will allow for subsequent layers to conform as well.

    @fgroen1225@fgroen122510 ай бұрын
  • Great video. And nice haircut at 23:07 😂

    @niles8582@niles85825 жыл бұрын
  • Great video thanks! Is it possible to make a mold out of chopped GF and resin? Won't it be structurally the same? If strength is not a huge factor (I don't think it is for a mold?). Is it not easier to spread chopped GF than put multiple layers of CF? Or maybe chopped GF is more expensive?

    @alextoader2880@alextoader28809 ай бұрын
  • Nice vid, thanks very much !

    @epastorejr@epastorejr4 жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant!

    @captainmh8417@captainmh84172 жыл бұрын
  • youre a legend mate

    @thomasharrison2407@thomasharrison24072 жыл бұрын
  • Good vid, my opinion is that the flange should be clean as well, I believe it should be as clean as the part. If u ever decide to use bagging tape, or overhang of glass fibers it can lay minimal on the flange. When your laying bagging tape u want a smooth surface prep, u don’t want to have to work the tape into too many crevices or uneven pavement. For overhanging of glass fibers onto the flange, again u want that smooth as well for ease of release once cured. If it’s too ruff or patchy or uneven your going to gouge the flange which needs to stay smooth for the future possibility of vacuum bag, or again bagging tape, My opinion, everything needs to stay smooth&clean. Oh and it’s never a bad thing to make a big flange, at least 2-3 inches. If the flange isn’t large now you’ll have to worry about mixing the bagging tape too close to fiber&consumables, do it once you’ll never worry again!

    @mlinecomposites1@mlinecomposites14 жыл бұрын
  • Would vacuum sealing the mold while you were layering the fiberglass face helped prevent the bubble?

    @kawasakicruisader5600@kawasakicruisader56003 жыл бұрын
  • You provided great technique, we appreciate your honest assessment of your mistakes. Your work area looks very nice, I hope that is not your kitchen. You should protect your counter tops from all of those chemicals and fiberglass!

    @jaketank3217@jaketank32174 жыл бұрын
  • good video thanks a few months ago i had a lengthy discussion about Carbon Fiber with a cousin of mine who is a Engineer by trade he warned me about the sharp edges of the fibers and told me how nasty they can be on our skin i have had a lot of fiberglassing experience because of my boating hobby and of course my Cousin knows that ironically for one of his Cpllege projects he and group of Engineers did do a Carbon Fiber project that was a man powered boat so he not only knows the technical side of it but has some hands on experience as well

    @craigmonteforte1478@craigmonteforte14783 жыл бұрын
  • Gotta love DLG's.

    @T88M3@T88M35 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome instruction. Now I'm going to make my non auto related invention that will make me a millionaire.

    @dloveon8704@dloveon87043 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for this.

    @emberducati9237@emberducati92373 жыл бұрын
  • no vacuum bag...or resin rollers?

    @despizedicon@despizedicon5 жыл бұрын
  • Would using the Vacuum method help with the lifting and rounded corners in general? Great video. Do fenders and side skirts plz

    @jonathanpham7397@jonathanpham73974 жыл бұрын
    • Yes, the vacuum bag would pull tight into those corners and so would also push the carbon under it tight into the corner. And it honestly is not much more complicated then doing it this way. You just need proper vacuum bags or tape and a pump. And use resin fitted for vacuum suction. The hard part of doing this is the prep stuff, which is the same as shown here. This is perfect for more flat parts with no hard details. But things with corners or complicated details are far easier with a vacuum pump. Also, you could use thinner fiber weave for the first layer as it is easier to bend into tight places. And it looks better in my opinion. After that just lay up the thicker stuff unto that.

      @baronvonlimbourgh1716@baronvonlimbourgh17164 жыл бұрын
    • dont do carbon fenders please... don't do any sufficient body parts unless your gonna do the entire car, rear quarters, roof and all... keep it to Bonnets, Lips and Mirrors. TRUST ME doing half the body parts Carbon and half the car parts Painted. It looks terrible

      @cheetahgaming3642@cheetahgaming36424 жыл бұрын
  • Is there anyway you could do a video on making a CF tube

    @calebjackson3491@calebjackson34914 жыл бұрын
  • Most of the resins I have run into mix by volume, not by weight. This is because they are designed to have pumps that allow for quick dispensing. Check with your resin manufacturer. Also, pva stands for polyvinyl alcohol.

    @OCofthe3@OCofthe35 жыл бұрын
  • Would using a fiberglass cloth of a lighter weight (i.e. more flexible) for the first layer help in the tight corners? Seems like it would.

    @jayinmi3706@jayinmi37064 жыл бұрын
  • How many ply do you think you would need to mold a small boat hull.

    @wholeass83@wholeass833 жыл бұрын
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