historical changes in pugs over time

I honestly like the old pugs better

Most people want a Pug that is fat, which is a very poor health choice and breathing issues increase due to the over weightiness, and the eyes that pop out are due to them having leashes around their neck. I have a taller pug who is very active and yes he snores but he is definitely not overweight.

Heartbreaking. I don't understand the hostile comments. K. Price has a concern for the future of the breed, as do I. I have 2 pugs that I love with all my heart; one of which has gone blind from cataracts and PRA. I want to see the future health of the breed improve because they are such awesome companions.

It's sad to see what's happened to the breed over time... But these little guys are the way they are now because of us so we need to show them love and companionship just like any other dog. While I do adore my pug Dante's features, I am aware of the potential health problems which is why I take care of him. Over time, I do hope to see the breed become healthier as I'm scared for the potential of future health issues with my little guy and future pugs I will own

really want one of those old pugs not the modern ones riddled with health issues

Thank you for the video. I confess that my pug Dave was from a "backyard breeder" ( the parents lived in the house and were well cared for), he has a less pronounced nose roll, a less curly tail, longer legs, and a thinner body, what many in the Pug Communtiy refer to as a "Victorian Pug" as a result, he is the picture of health at age 11 save for PK that has developed in the past year or so. My first Pug was breed standard and suffered from CDM and died at 13. I agree it is time for a change!

Is it time to turn the clock back? My answer: Yes. Yes. And: YES!!!

There goes my hope of getting a pug ever

Indeed Very flat faced pugs *did* exist along side the longer faced European types.......doesn't make it "right" though does it?.....Given the problems that come with extreme brachycephalia

this video just made me cry, i have a pug, too. And i worry myself about him, i'm looking to keep his claws short (normally not necessary, but since my pug grew up with a "finger" who is shorter and the others, i have to cut the claw), so when he scratchs his face he does not get hurt at an eye, clean up everyday his nose wrinkle, but i know myself that there are diseases or disc problems that i can't prevent. And in a few months he is going to have a surgery so he can breath better.

Having your pet happy doesnt mean he is healthy Some people spoil them too much and overfeed them without consulting a vet. Mine isnt overweight nor far nor even wrinckled. I've taken good care of her health and exercise.

i think more 98% of the domesticated dogs we all keep as pets today are all the products of breeding, in-breeding, human intervention.. not 1 dog bred that i know of has stayed the same since the beginning of the domestication of dogs... all have been tampered with to achieve "perfection" or so they call it.

The problem isn't their appearance. The problem is the Victorian model of breeding, (i.e. "pure bloodlines" and such) which is pre-mendelian genetics inheritance theory. We now know that Mendelian genetics (along with Darwin's observations, etc.) based breeding is the way to go, and in fact it is used in every other non-pet breeding programs. The Victorian method of breeding "pedigree" animals reinforces bad genes because of it's flawed central theory, and as a result the animals get sick. The breeders need to abandon Victorian breeding standards and work to identify the problem genes and breed with dogs that don't have the problem genes. The dogs will retain their appearance(s) and the illness and deformity will become increasingly rare. Eventually it should be possible to eliminate all harmful traits entirely. The sooner we ditch a 130 year out of date scientific theory the better.

I don't know why, but I find this kind of creepy, no offence, I love pugs! haha Nice work!

2:25 to 2:30 is pug heaven. Love this music just right for the majestic pug.

This is very sad... :-( Thank you for making this informative video in memory of your pug. I wish that the breeders will start breeding the animals for better health & not only looks.

This pug lover agrees with both the video post and this comment. To say pugs were one way based upon Euorpean paintings of the past doesn't do justice to the breed. There are many reasons for the different looks. But because of some crazy aesthetic, there are many pugs bred with conformational issues that limit their health. This is not unique to only pugs, but this wonderful breed should serve as a reminder to all who purchase purebreds to only support selected breeders who breed for health

Very nice effort! There are some famous early 18th century paintings that you did not include: Madame de Ventadour with Portraits of Louis XIV and his Heirs, France, 1715 - 1720, in the Wallace Collection is the earliest I'm aware of. Antoine Pesne, Portrait of Anna Orzelska with a pug, circa 1728, National Museum, Warsaw, is another.

Thank you for raising awareness. I hope more people will learn about this.

I agree with this video + the music sounds like they were sent from heaven... Poor pugs 😭

I would love to have one of 1853-1937 ones, they look the cutest.

This was very informative and also made me sad :( RIP Rupert and all other pugs affected by unfortunate genetic disorders

A winner at Crufts, don't remember which year, was riddle with SERIOUS morphological health issue. Yet, he was such a"perfect" stud that he was used at least for 40 breeding.

I have owned the long legged pure bred chow chows. Today's chows are short legged, shorter fatter rump and a shorter nose. At present I own a pug mix, long legged, longer nose and skinny body. Give me the old breed dogs any day. Same body manipulation is done to cats too.

(Cont2) Surely there are certain conditions that cannot be treated and the pug will suffer if not euthanized, which is horrible. Any pug 'parent' will say that pugs are AMAZING and loving, and such a wonderful, lively, happy breed. We have been SO lucky to only deal with a few problems with Ella (my Pug). I'm so sorry for the loss of Rupert. :-( Lastly, Ella and I say hi to all from Seattle, Wa! Pugs RULE! :-)

I love that painting at 2:52. That moment one second before the pug eats the whole cake.

Omg I have a pug puppy and your video has made me very nervous and will try to be more cautious with and surrounding. Thank you

by the way all of mine are over 10 years old and still play and enjoy life

I really do not understand the kennel club. Why do they allow such inbred dogs to compete in shows. I meet people regularly who say they love pugs. If their own children were born with such deformities there would be a feature on a sensational documentary searching for a surgeon who is willing to help. Often pugs come up to play with my fit and lively dog. They are snorting and trying to breathe out of their ears and the owners are oblivious to their suffering Some actually find it sweet. Pugs are pure deformities and people should not be allowed to breed nor buy them.

Pugs are the best breed in the world. It's amazing how Pugs looked different back then and now there is a new breed called a Puggle (Pug +beagle) and they look just like the way Pugs used to look - lol

Excellent video, informative and eye opening. Thank you for making it and trying to spread awareness of these issues. Hopefully people will increasingly opt for pugs with longer legs and snouts and without the curled tail. HrHaakon - cats are not exempt from the problems of inbreeding and purebreeding - the persian cat is in just as poor a state as the pug (if not worse). They also suffer from flat faces, bulging weepy eyes and pinched nostrils. Sphinx cats suffer multiple health problems too, as do manx cats (some of whom must be euthanized after birth due to missing anuses and genitals). I have cats however I have always had moggies, I find them more intelligent and far healthier than any purebred cat. It sounds like you also keep moggies, but please be aware that there ARE people intentionally breeding purebred cats with health defects. I am not against all purebreds - there are dogs bred for working purposes (e.g. sheepdogs) and noble purposes (e.g. guide dogs) that are very much still needed in society, however the extreme breeds bred purely for looks need fixing before they self destruct with their health issues.

the pug of 1:17 is like my pug

A good video with amazing content and insight,, but for future viewers' sake could you please put in the description that there are graphic photos of eye injuries that could be disturbing to some viewers? I love my pugs and it breaks my heart to see one in distress.

Thank you for making this. The cognitive dissonance of pug owners is staggering.

I have a pug, Ella, and she is 10 years old. I've had her since she was 8 weeks, and over time become very familiar with the problems pugs can have. I will say that certain genetic disorders and conditions specific to the breed CAN be dealt with and regular vet care can keep some of these problems from getting out of hand. Regular face and ear cleanings can help keep those nasty infections away. My Ella is currently getting eye drops to combat the keratinizing eye issues. (Cont.)

i also have a pug and i am so pleased that you have posted this video.breeders need guidelines and morals.pugs are the most loving dogs ever and deserve good owners like you katie

Wow how they have changed. Makes me think of all the breeding etc they had to go through to become like they are today aw.

pugs are better being crossed as mongrel dogs because the chances are high that you will get a fairly long snouted pug, which will make them have better problems, depending on which type of dog you cross them with.

I have 6 and one is without an eye but it was because another dog bite it and yes one is unable to walk with back legs but they are all very happy

I agree, Naes. That made me sad. Having been a part of the online "pug community" (lol), I've seen a lot of those pictures and they break my heart. Truth be told, ANY breed has problems and can end up disfigured for many reasons. That said, I think the one who made the video was just illustrating the point. But, I'd rather have done without the pics tho too. :-/

i AGREE! They are the BEST friends in the world and deserve better! I think Pug MeetUps are "Pug Show Offs" and have complained when they schedule outdoor meets in weather so hot Pugs should not even be outdoors, but in AC. They will meet in 90 degree weather and even dress up their poor Pugs!

Great pieces of art!

The ones from the mid 1800s look pretty much like today's pugs IMO...

Whos idea was it to have their noses scruntched in. Thats a hideous sign of inbreeding. A german shepherd breeder would be horified if a pup came out like that. Sad

So you want the dogs to suffer every second every day till they die just because they are cute. HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good to know though

Pugs were selectively breed down to to what they are now. Its was and still is common practice for dog breeders to do so. In the future more example of changing appearance in dogs breeds appear as less desirable traits will be breed out of dogs.

The british were infamous for trying to create breeds, if you look at ancient asian examples of the pug, they are more akin to the modern day breed's appearance.

1:34 looks like a big pug.

Okay...Rupert the pug died....this deserves an explanation....Are we supposed to guess that it could have been any of those disorders listed. Perhaps the argument could be better supported if we knew what happened to Rupert, and maybe be a warning to other pug owners??

Thanks.....typo.....Dale Warland singers version of Agnus Dei (Samuel Barber).....you can find it on you tube.....beautiful version.

Close, this is actually a choir arrangement of a song called Adagio For Strings by Samuel Barber. Great Video!

u made me too sad!

these pictures are from the western world. the pugs are from the east as i've read it right, right? what if these pugs in the paintings have already been mixed with the non-pugs? just wondering here, what must have they looked like in ancient china? hmmm...

Great video

I'm supposed to be getting a pug soon but now I'm scared too but I take good care of my dogs so this probably won't happen but it scares me now so I don't know if I should get one?????😪🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾

Could you redo this with old photographs ?

to be exact all breeds have problems and you just have to know exactly how to take care of the breed you get to help its health , because I have 2PUGS that dont have any health issues what so ever and that is because I TAKE CARE OF MY DOGS correctly the way they pug needs to be taken care of

of course

the platoon theme???

Other than the vid being VERY interesting...... I feel I should know this but, what is the music being played?

Rupert

nice music to :)

Poor pugs

very cool

1:04 the beginning of pug's tongue ;D

I agree with many comments if you are considering getting a pug don't get a pedigree one my dog is 3/4 pug and 1/4 chiwawa she looks exactly like a pug only a little smaller she is 99% less likely to have breathing problems or eye problems. She is so cute and a very healthy dog her bread is called a chug there is a vidio of her on my channel

I cried during this

How did Rupert die?

magnifique....merci..c'est vrai que le carlin était le chien des Rois.....tristounet...

And what are you trying to say with this?

what is this song

Eyes out :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

Agnus Dei - Samuel Barber.....Dale Warner Singers

Good video! Ill showed this to the girlfriend of mine, explaining that those dogs are not that cute as you thought. Tolles Video! Habe es meiner Uschi gezeigt, weil die Möpse immer so süß fand -.- Scheiß Überzüchtung! Das wäre so, als wenn man einen Menschen zu einem Behinderten züchtet, nur damit er anderen gefällt und diese ihn kaufen. :(

Sorry I was writing too fast I'm luck my pug doesn't have those awful problems

Pug Dog Encephalitis......a friend's dog

Our Pug Daisy is awesome We do worry about her in hot weather but she mainly stays inside in air-con comfort Lol Couldn't wish for a better companion. I wouldn't have got her if she had looked like the old ones in the pic.

The pugs Now Lolo better

so they evolved lol watever its like ur saying pugs are holy well i agree...

liked this video till you started showing the pictures of the missing eyes, that was really not necessary and very disturbing even though we all know about it...

I dont know why but my pug has much longer and sharper muzzle and significantly less wrinkles with a tail loosly curled just once and long&thin but muscular legs. Intrestingly none of his siblings or his mother has these features. Should I be worried?please reply if you know for I'm extremely confused

CamFlockaFlame. I'm sure you won't have many people trying to discredit you as you are done a good job on your own. It is through selective breeding that the breathing troubles have come about. You say you have pugs and yet appear to know nothing about any of the problems they as a breed have. I have seen the breathing problems that occur also the Skin fold dermatitis and heart problems and that's without actually owning a pug,.although I do know many "peopole" that do.

I'm a pug owner and I've known that the pug has changed over the last 100 or so years. But saying that the changes in pugs are why they have health issues is drawing a pretty thin line between correlation and causation. Health issues can affect any purebred dog. If you get a dog from a reputable breeder AND take proper care of your pug, those issues can be mitigated. My pug is healthy, happy and NOT overweight (his weight is always 18-20lbs). From his vet to the place where I board him when I'm out of town, I'm told that he's a rarity as MOST of the pugs they see are overweight. You want a healthy pug? Don't overfeed them. The result will be worth it. Your pug will be more active, less gassy, and snore less. I'll be waiting for the video explaining that overfeeding your dog leads to health issues. .

Meanwhile, I've only had cats and they have all had their races listed as "100% cat. We think." It's strange that the attitudes in the average cat owner is so different. I mean, people love their dogs, so why do they stand for this?

This is so sobering for me. Touching, to say the least. I don't own a pug, but I'm a regular watcher of KZhead pug videos and have come to love the little guys that way. Of course we humans have to take care of our charges, really consider their interests. We can do it.

This video is too exagerated.Aniway I love pugs and I will buy one and take care of It daily

My pug is more of a "throwback". He has longer legs, more of a snout (though it's not a full snout) and when on all fours, his nose comes up to my knee. He's purebred and registered with a pedigree, so the genes still exist. :-) HOWEVER, many of the historical English "pugs" you have featured in this video are NOT purebreds.

You sound as though you love this breed, but if you love the ancient Pug then why would you defend the modern one? They are hardly the same dog anymore and many of them suffer genetic conditions that could well have been prevented through good breeding practices using genetic diversity. Although there were 10,000 Pugs registered in the UK in 2008 only 50 of them had a completely separate gene pool. Inbreeding only passes the diseases on. If you love these dogs you would be apalled.

Pugs are awesome!!!

I understand the desire to "Turn back the clock". But I think the question is: "Can that still be done"? Especially with the current breeding pactices. And can it be done, should it be? Pugs are dangerously imbred as it seems and what if mixing them with other dog-lines only results in having the genes for these faults spread around more? I think line breeding will do absolutely nothing for these dogs, no matter in what way they are carried out. And also how many will welcome the changes made?

I think the problem could be the early historical portraits were painted by shit artists! My pug is gorgeous but I bought him from a reputable breeder, he's fifth generation pedigree, KC registered and was expensive but worth every penny. He is the family pet, he's been done, I did not buy him to breed. I've seen so called Pugs that are obvious cross breeds, they just looks strange, much like those old paintings.

got it.got 3 pugs.my best friends... don't want to see this shit.. your not gonna change shit........

there pug crosses as you can see the propper pug in 1850 so dont believe this video

i only liked the evolution of the pug it was neat why show all those symtones pugs are pretty healthy dogs and are easy to take care of why show those horriable images i was ready to bawl my eyes out :(

I luv pugs, breed them a good, healthy life.

Ahhh, shaddup and leave 'em alone. I like 'em just the way they are. Besides, they're cute and mostly inside dogs anyway. An so-called "bad breeding" is offset 1000 times over by the awesome personality and funny shit they do. I have 4 of 'em and they jeep my ass cracked up 24/7. Just the opposite bub - a high-five to the folks who have bred the modern pug. Those versions from the 1800's look like ugly morons.

This is BOGUS. Those paintings prove nothing but painters were as shitty at painting dogs as they were at painting humans in the 1800s.

If they suffered every second of every day they would be very angry dogs and not so lovable

You are just naming out the bad things about pugs. There are so many positive things about them.