Investigating the WEIRDEST Formula 1 Crash Ever

2024 ж. 4 Мам.
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Look at this image, a Ferrari F1 car crashed and a VERY lucky driver.
I recently came across this, and could not figure out how this driver got away without much worse injuries. He literally climbed out the car and walked away. So I had to find out how this happened - and it got weird - so I had to share it with you. So let's get into it.
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  • The most abused thumbnail picture of all time🤣 so many compilations have that also censored, glad to learn more about it

    @nsx_montana@nsx_montana Жыл бұрын
    • I've seen sensationalized KZhead videos with titles like: "Driver Sliced in HALF!!!"

      @timf3099@timf3099 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@timf3099 lmao sameeee

      @harrycop7944@harrycop7944 Жыл бұрын
    • @@timf3099 yep😅

      @nsx_montana@nsx_montana Жыл бұрын
    • For real dude! Never knew about this incident and was curious, and this youtuber made it.

      @TattvaRajput24@TattvaRajput24 Жыл бұрын
    • @@timf3099 U might give a magician there a new trick. Slicing 2 cars and drivers from different teams and let them race around the track.

      @princesssolace4337@princesssolace4337 Жыл бұрын
  • The story is very straight forward. I was working for the Maranello team at that time. There is about 8 months between the start of the design of a car and the first time it hits the road. The chassis folks produced a design but unfortunately, we did not have an autoclave large enough to fit it, and no time to find an alternative. After some head scratching, a 2 pieces arrangement that satisfied no one was chosen. The safety of the driver (only just one we cared about) was a major concern. A specialist at the time told me about the challenges with the bonding, and the way the chassis was split to go through the crash test. The expectation was it would be borderline but ok for the season. I am pretty certain that my recollection is correct when saying that he also expressed concern about how the glue would hold over time, since no long duration data was available. For the following season, 12 months away, the autoclave situation was of course fixed and so no more dodgy tricks had to be used again.

    @jean-francoispeyroux1126@jean-francoispeyroux1126 Жыл бұрын
    • big if true

      @Dermaa@Dermaa Жыл бұрын
    • I fully believe this. Failure of a bonded joint, likely a very old bonded joint. The pictures back this up showing a very clean separation of the composite halves and bonding material left on at least the one half we can see. Oxidation and moisture can compromise adhesives with time... The designers didn't predict this use case and where only likely expecting the bond to make it the 8 month season.

      @kellymcteer5076@kellymcteer5076 Жыл бұрын
    • The more I read comments here, more I think that they put minimal efforts to do research on this channel. Only driving technique videos worth attention.

      @inevespace@inevespace Жыл бұрын
    • @@kellymcteer5076 They should have at least used some duct tape!

      @whyyoulidl@whyyoulidl Жыл бұрын
    • @@inevespace what is happening here is that he gets attention from people who know, more than random internet posts do. Random workers and spectators doesn't just sit down on the internet and write about occurances. But when they come over situations where they can contribute, they do.

      @espenjohansen8074@espenjohansen8074 Жыл бұрын
  • Somewhat nostalgic to see the name Kroymans again. I grew up in Hilversum back in the '90, not too far from the Kroymans showroom. One time me and a friend wanted to go checking out those exotic cars on a summer day. But feeling dissatisfied with only looking at them, we gathered our courage and decided to ask the clerk or we could sit in those cars. It was a quiet summer day, there were no customers in the showroom. So the clerk decided to be kind to us kids (we were teens, 15 years old) and allow us to choose 1 car to sit in. This is where I felt in love with the Ferrari 550 Maranello. It was the first Ferrari I sat in. Good memories, better than the memories of having Christijan Albers 🤮as a classmate in that same year. Total jerk. Didn't liked him back then, still don't like him now.

    @NexuJin@NexuJin Жыл бұрын
    • Heb een soort zelfde ervaring gehad. Woon zelf een half uur rijden van het Munsterhuis. Kwam daar als kind al om te kijken en nu nog steeds regelmatig te vinden, voel me daar als kind in de snoepwinkel!

      @siccodegroot8710@siccodegroot8710 Жыл бұрын
    • What's so bad about albers all be does is talk

      @plusquare@plusquare Жыл бұрын
    • @@plusquare He is what we call here in Netherland "kakker".

      @NexuJin@NexuJin Жыл бұрын
    • Dude, that's an amazing story and I agree on Christian Albers, by far the most annoying F1 commentator on Viaplay.

      @Drrolfski@Drrolfski Жыл бұрын
    • Man amazing story I had something very simmilar a while ago. Just amazing to see al those magnificent cars so close to home

      @gijsvandeweerd509@gijsvandeweerd509 Жыл бұрын
  • I was there when it happened, sitiing on a hillside with a friend. It was a demonstration race during the Monterey Historics weekend. I'm not certain of the year but it may have been 2004. There were about a dozen Corsa Clienti F1 cars going around the track. I didn't see the crash itself. As you said it was a warmup lap so were weren't playing close attention, but we were shocked when we saw it broken in half because as you said they weren't going too fast, and being that it was one of the newest cars there you would expect it to be the safest. By the way, if there is one weekend and one trasck to go to where you want to see the most amazing and beautiful cars, go to Laguna Seca during the historic race weekend.

    @gtv6chuck@gtv6chuck Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah 2004, it is on the Chrysler in the video

      @KGI_KlikoNL@KGI_KlikoNL Жыл бұрын
    • Yes, 2004 was the Ferrari year for the Historics. I was standing off T5 and the crash happened between 6 and the corkscrew. I didn't hear the crash ... I heard the silence afterward which took a second to register. There's this loud ass F1 Ferrari going around and then ... nothing. Pretty crazy. He wasn't going all that slowly, either. He was moving along at a pretty good clip for cold tires, but that T6 bump probably shook him loose and the front of the car got wiped off by the wall. Lucky he didn't end up like Zanardi.

      @TLGAuto@TLGAuto9 ай бұрын
    • was that a hot day? just wondering as California in the summer can get really warm and the sun beating down on that car. Makes me wonder if the glue got softened up.

      @filanfyretracker@filanfyretracker3 ай бұрын
    • @@filanfyretracker It wasn't all that hot there. When you go to Laguna for the vintage races it's always cloudy in the morning, then the clouds back up to the ocean and it gets to be sunny and 75-80F.

      @gtv6chuck@gtv6chuck3 ай бұрын
    • ​@@filanfyretrackerIt never really gets that hot in Monterey county. Especially right on the coast where Laguna Seca is located.

      @jajajajajajajajaja867@jajajajajajajajaja8674 күн бұрын
  • I’m the person that wrote the comment you quoted from the Alfabb. The inside wall at turn 6 was closer to the track in 2004. It was moved back via excavation later on, which is what you see in the in car you show.

    @GianniBuroni@GianniBuroni Жыл бұрын
  • My dad has a car company from the Netherlands. Kroymans still owes him 15000 EU. They tried to finance everything by getting loans with multiple banks.

    @alecdebekker6185@alecdebekker6185 Жыл бұрын
    • Sadly I feel it’s almost impossible to get to the stage of wealth Kroymans was at back then without being a corrupt bastard.

      @craigratio@craigratioАй бұрын
  • The story I heard is that because of his tall height, the car had to be modified for his height. So the nose was dismantled and when put back on, it had a weak point. When Fritz crashed, that weak point must've just failed and the whole nose came off after the impact. But that's the story I've heard. Edit: ok, it's in the video

    @aydankhaliq2967@aydankhaliq2967 Жыл бұрын
    • When you look at the breaking point on the photo then this is probably the most plausible explanation.

      @Drrolfski@Drrolfski Жыл бұрын
    • I heard that story too. Because that story is literally told in this video. What a coincidence huh?

      @hkr667@hkr667 Жыл бұрын
    • @@hkr667 classic case of the comment before video is over.

      @TK-ps6mg@TK-ps6mg Жыл бұрын
    • Thats literally the story in the video...

      @guaya999@guaya999 Жыл бұрын
    • I've not finished reading your comment yet but the story I heard is that because the client was larger than the original drivers he had trouble fitting in the car, so Ferrari made some alterations. That involved removing the the nose section and extending it. When he crashed the point they'd cut broke off along the cut lines. Well that's the version I got told anyway.

      @UpTheAnte1987@UpTheAnte1987 Жыл бұрын
  • Look at the car's nose, at 4:07... Wheels and suspensions are still attached, and apparently intact, the nose is just scratched, and the only thing broken off seems the front wing. Without any context, i would have guessed the car broke in two without even crashing.

    @lucaguarnieri8807@lucaguarnieri8807 Жыл бұрын
    • left wheel is turned inward so I reckon the suspension is snapped...

      @PompeyMatt17@PompeyMatt17Ай бұрын
    • There was a construction flaw iirc

      @eins2001@eins200119 күн бұрын
  • Stan Fox had a crash at the 1995 Indy 500 that left his legs exposed like that. I was 14 and the memory of the car coming to rest with his legs hanging out is very vivid in my mind. Amazingly his legs were fine but he suffered severe head injuries.

    @BiggieTrismegistus@BiggieTrismegistus Жыл бұрын
    • That was my first Indy 500 too and I loved growing up and going to all 4 weeks of may back then with my dad happy memories

      @jamescampbell390@jamescampbell390 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jamescampbell390 I went to my first Indycar race with my dad that year at Michigan International Speedway and it was something we did yearly until they stopped coming to the track. To this day I go to my parents's house and watch as many F1 and IndyCar races with my old man as I can.

      @BiggieTrismegistus@BiggieTrismegistus Жыл бұрын
  • I was there that day. I was just downhill from Turn 6 where this happened, heading up to take some photos. I heard the crash, and made my way the rest of the way up to the inside of the corner. I got a couple of shots of him sitting in his car, but they were from further away and I think not as good an angle as the ones you show here. It was pretty chilling.

    @davedarling4316@davedarling4316 Жыл бұрын
  • As a few others have noted, this was not a race. Ferrari was the featured marque at the Monterey Historics in 2004. They had several Corse Clienti cars circulating at lunch. I was working on the Course Marshall crew that day. We had to take a short lunch so that they could reopen the track. All of a sudden, we got a "stand up" order and then were dispatched to help with the cleanup. I was on the track as the SCCA crew were loading the "car" on the rollback. We put one of the rear wheels in the back of our Ford crew cab truck. My sons were in attendance and got some footage of the cleanup. You can see me on the track in a few shots. When we went back to the garage with the rollback, I carried the rear wheel, with tire still mounted, and some suspension bits into the garage for the crew. That was all so light I could carry it out at arm's length! As soon as I saw the opening still in this video, I knew it was that event!

    @robertgraham7245@robertgraham7245 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for this wonderful insight!

      @vasman4034@vasman4034 Жыл бұрын
    • I distinctly remembering them covering the car up with a tarp on the flatbed. If you weren't close to the accident, you never saw that the Ferrari had split in half. We witnessed it later when this photo showed up. Seeing the tarp on a car on the flatbed made you think there was a body or some kind of bloody carnage. It was scary. Turns out instead, I think, that Ferrari or the Scuderia loyalists(?) were highly embarrassed during the celebration of Ferrari that their chassis split like this, and were hoping to limit photos. It was a wise move, but didn't stop the photos from getting out.

      @karlInSanDiego@karlInSanDiego5 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for this, I've seen the picture a bunch of times and always wondered about the origins of it, cause it's so weird that the tub would split like that. Also, I hope you do get to race at Laguna Seca, it's such a beautiful track.

    @laurenmp7486@laurenmp7486 Жыл бұрын
  • The story that you can't keep your car simply isn't true. You're allowed to have it at your home, but almost all choose to keep it at the factory for ease of maintenance. This story started with the first FXX cars and it wasn't true then, and still isn't true today... The current V6 cars aren't being sold due to sheer cost of keeping them going. So the 2 year thing doesn't exist anymore, either (this was only valid for new cars).

    @550LMS@550LMS Жыл бұрын
  • If only our friend Alex Zanardi was this lucky

    @boomshine7@boomshine7 Жыл бұрын
  • Including your research/how you found the car/driver/accident was a great choice. It's rare to see that included. I'm sure it helps others in how they research things as well.

    @olekaarvaag9405@olekaarvaag9405 Жыл бұрын
    • "Research" about anything historical generally relies on those same questions and more. I really hope that wasn't as impressive to you or others as you made it out to be.

      @justlucky8254@justlucky8254 Жыл бұрын
  • Loving the channel and the research you do to uncover great story's with really well explained content. Many thanks.

    @paul8161@paul8161 Жыл бұрын
  • Did you actually contact Frits Kroymans himself? Because it would have been really nice to get his personal account on the accident. Fun fact: Since 2020 Frits Kroymans is back to being a Ferrari dealer again. He is not without controversy though. His company has been accused of fraud when it went into administration in 2009 and last month it came out that he had made tons of money during covid, selling medical supplies to the Dutch government through one of his other companies. Which probably earned him the cash to buy back the shares of his Ferrari dealership, which still went on under the Kroymans name all these years. Edit: I found an interview of him (in Dutch) on that crash, but unfortunately he didn't go into details: kzhead.info/sun/q72AYJyunKRmbGg/bejne.html

    @Drrolfski@Drrolfski Жыл бұрын
    • Lol’d, cause he went so publicly bankrupt….personal accounts

      @schlempfunkle@schlempfunkle Жыл бұрын
    • I wonder if the drivers have to sign an NDA that prevents them giving details about the cars? That would fit with Ferrari keeping possession of the cars between races and what appears to be complete control of the arrangement.

      @TrevorDennis100@TrevorDennis100 Жыл бұрын
    • oh no, someone made money during covid. without knowing what margin he had, people are pissed at nothing

      @cbrunnem6102@cbrunnem6102 Жыл бұрын
    • Did you watch the video? Do you think that maybe he contacted Frits Kroymans and didn't even mention it?

      @joevarga5982@joevarga5982 Жыл бұрын
    • @@joevarga5982 That was exactly my question. I couldn't tell from their video if they did contact Frits. That's why I asked.

      @Drrolfski@Drrolfski Жыл бұрын
  • Reminds me of the Indy 500 crash with Stan Fox, where his legs were literally hanging out of the car while in mid-air.

    @Erik_The_Viking@Erik_The_Viking Жыл бұрын
    • Heh. I made a comment about his crash at almost the exact same time. The image of his car sliding to a stop with his legs hanging out seared itself into my 14 year old brain. It freaked me out but thankfully didn't scare me off racing completely.

      @BiggieTrismegistus@BiggieTrismegistus Жыл бұрын
    • Danny Ongais as well at Indy.

      @crazydrummer181@crazydrummer181 Жыл бұрын
  • I was in the paddock and saw this car come in on the flatbed while a pack of frantic Italians attempted to keep it covered up. As you mentioned it was the first lap so everyone was wondering what happened. I saw this picture the following Monday.

    @corym3985@corym3985 Жыл бұрын
    • yea it's ironic it being the first lap.. if he was a racing driver. Being that he's just some average Joe with a fat wallet, it's almost to be expected that he crashes one of the pointiest F1 cars Ferrari ever made, on the warm up lap. If I was in the paddock I'd be doing a sweepstake for who stacks it first

      @bitemyshite@bitemyshite5 ай бұрын
  • Great video, I used to work for Ferrari West Europe at that time, I had many an interaction with Fritz Kroymans, who was one of our Dutch Ferrari dealers at the time. I remember distinctly Fritz was invited to Maranello following this crash, to choose another F1 car, and he chose an F2001 to replace it. His collection was subsequently sold when he hit financial troubles back in 08, yet he's still one of two Ferrari dealers in the Netherlands. Great guy!

    @yourproblemthesolution@yourproblemthesolution Жыл бұрын
    • Good to hear that Ferrari sorted him and had his back. To be fair I'd expect nothing less, they respect their clients.

      @GuzziHeroV50@GuzziHeroV50 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, he got/picked one from Rubens Barichello

      @KGI_KlikoNL@KGI_KlikoNL Жыл бұрын
    • FritS. I don't think there ever have been more than two Ferrari dealers in NL and kroymans certainly was the worst.

      @DriftJesus@DriftJesusАй бұрын
    • @@DriftJesus Indeed, it FritS. And exactly, there was and still is Kroymans and Munsterhuis, two dealers.

      @yourproblemthesolution@yourproblemthesolutionАй бұрын
    • @@yourproblemthesolution kroymans was horrible to deal with, never again.

      @DriftJesus@DriftJesusАй бұрын
  • The 2 year wait to get the newest car isn't necessarily about secrets being revealed, as you said ferrari holds the car and just let's the buyer drive it essentially. The bigger reason for the wait is likely the FIA test prohibition on cars younger than 2 years.

    @MrEshah@MrEshah Жыл бұрын
    • no

      @bitemyshite@bitemyshite5 ай бұрын
  • I like watching this channel for serious Scott. But F-bomb dropping, competitive, snarky Scott is so much fun to watch on Overdrive. ESPECIALLY when he sticks it to Callum and Will.

    @BPBomber@BPBomber Жыл бұрын
  • The thumbnail remind me of alex zanardi's horrible crash, it just horror still can't forget it a literal human flesh flying every where

    @santos4004@santos4004 Жыл бұрын
    • Exactly what I was thinking.

      @18000rpm@18000rpm Жыл бұрын
    • Also Danny Ongais 1981 Indy

      @easternwoods4378@easternwoods4378 Жыл бұрын
  • This was like one of the most obscure F1 crash picture I have ever seen and I was wondering for a long time (like maybe 10years) who was that person and how did he get in that situation. Thanks for this explaination

    @arnaudj.5314@arnaudj.5314 Жыл бұрын
  • oh god, this comment is before I watched the video, and the first thing that comes to mind, the very first thing is Alex Zinardi's sickening crash when he lost his legs, literally gagging at the thought as I write this, the driver is very very lucky indeed to have both legs intact... just shows how fast it can change in motorsports.

    @ammarisrar2005@ammarisrar2005 Жыл бұрын
  • T6 is so rewarding when you get it right. I've seen a few who have lost it at T6 and a few close calls myself. laguna's getting a bit of a facelift right now, see how it changes (or not).

    @nodrogkam@nodrogkam Жыл бұрын
  • Dude was so fortunate to walk away. I wonder if perhaps the bonding agent weakens over time? Cool topic and video :)

    @Andrew-zx9wx@Andrew-zx9wx Жыл бұрын
    • Once a carbon monocoque (or any monocoque really) is built you aren't supposed to cut extra holes in it. Cutting it will have permanently weakened it and created a stress riser along the seams when they put it back together. You can compensate for it by reinforcing along the joint, but in this case it looks like the amount of reinforcement needed was underestimated. It's a good demonstration of why F1 teams design the chassis around the tallest driver and work back from there.

      @fix0the0spade@fix0the0spade Жыл бұрын
    • @@fix0the0spade yeah that carbon fiber is generally engineered down to the nubs so there's not any extra any break and you need to replace the whole unit.

      @markmcgoveran6811@markmcgoveran6811 Жыл бұрын
  • I was there at Laguna Seca when this happened. Fritz didn't crash, when he turned into the apex at turn 6, the car literally broke in 1/2. This was not a RACE, it was during lunch time demonstration laps so there were limited marshals out on the turns. He was lucky that about 3-4 cars that were behind him, didn't contact him. My wife and I were having our lunch at the start/finish area, and I just happened to be on the land line for the corners. The F&C worker at turn 6 called the "alert" and that dispatched the emergency vehicles. I remember the communicator say that the car broke in "2" but he was at turn 6. I couldn't figure out, how a broken car could get from turn 2 to turn 6. He had to clarify his response a couple of times, and once he said that the broke in 1/2, that we all realized what had happened. Needless to say, this was a car, that was Schumacher's car what was "glued" back together after a crash, and was supposed to have a tag on it saying "static display only" or something to that effect. Well, somehow that tag was removed, and we know the rest. The funny thing, was that the car was put on a roll back type tow truck, a tarp was placed over it, and it was whisked out of the track in a heartbeat.

    @timlinerud7721@timlinerud7721 Жыл бұрын
    • He spun into the inside wall, which was closer to the track. It was at low speed as it was some demo laps with a few Ferrari F1 cars. When the car hit, the nose snapped off. Turn 6 was my favorite place to watch the Historics. I was there with my friend at turn 6 and saw it.

      @GianniBuroni@GianniBuroni Жыл бұрын
    • 🐂💩, it wasn't the Silverstone car, that was a right off.

      @davidgavin7280@davidgavin7280 Жыл бұрын
    • @@GianniBuroni Crazy. I was in T5 and didn't see what happened. I only heard the silence afterward...

      @TLGAuto@TLGAuto9 ай бұрын
  • The good thing about this was he was travelling at a fairly slow speed. Mind boggles to think what would have happened at 150mph and the joint failed.

    @MurraydeLues@MurraydeLues7 ай бұрын
  • This scene reminds me of the accident Alex Zanardi had at the Eurospeedway Lausitz in Germany. 😳🤦‍♂️

    @u.e.u.e.@u.e.u.e. Жыл бұрын
  • Just imagine spending 10s of millions to drive a car and you end up being provided with a death trap. I'm guessing he didn't sue Ferrari but wonder if he had a good case to do so.

    @andyy348@andyy348 Жыл бұрын
    • But all f1 cars are deathtraps to begin with. Less so with more recent cars, but especially in the early 90s and before it was a lot worse.

      @nitelast@nitelast Жыл бұрын
  • Great video. I was actually at that race as part of the Concours d'Elegance that year in which Ferrari was the featured marque. The race happened on the other side of the track out of view so this is interesting info even some twenty years later.

    @gavinj01@gavinj01 Жыл бұрын
  • Yes, it really happened. I was there that weekend. No, the photos aren’t “photoshopped”. A former employer of mine was the guy who purchased Kroymans collection. (Tom Price)

    @jimz68@jimz68 Жыл бұрын
  • i did my first track day at laguna seca in 2004 i think and they mentioned to watch out for the turn 6 dip and mentioned this crash. The dip was abrupt enough to unsettle my mazda protege on my first lap. They repaved the track soon after for moto gp and took most of the dip out and that was noticeable when i went back a couple years later

    @roywhiteo5@roywhiteo58 ай бұрын
  • imagine spending $10 million in a car, waiting 2 years to drive it, and breaking it in half in the warmup lap :D

    @videofrat3115@videofrat3115 Жыл бұрын
  • Saying “well to do” sounds less judgey than “rich”

    @schlempfunkle@schlempfunkle Жыл бұрын
    • He was chanelling Bezos

      @chinmaysardesai623@chinmaysardesai623 Жыл бұрын
  • Scott, I grew up in the Monterey area, and have attended numerous events at Laguna Seca. Even been lucky enough to drive several cars there: Honda Civic, Dodge Neon and Viper, Porsche 911, and even a Harley Davidson. You will have a BLAST!!!

    @scottbruner9266@scottbruner9266 Жыл бұрын
  • Really cool video Scott, & very interesting, & cool to see that you have used some clips of my old YT vids 😎😎

    @eriknaamot@eriknaamot Жыл бұрын
  • Ah hey, I grew up within earshot of Laguna Seca. I've spent nights in the campsite surrounding the track and I've done photography for events in the past too. The Kink and The Corkscrew is both just one of those turns where you post up and you know you'll see something insane. And the scale of the elevation change in The Corkscrew is absolutely not possible to grasp from videos. In real life, the change is something like 3 stories of height, it's absolutely massive. You feel small standing downhill and looking up at this drop. And if you've never seen the 1996 Alex Zanardi clip, literally nicknamed "The Pass", you absolutely NEED to seek it out. Weird crashes aside, this is the single coolest move in motorsport. I love Laguna Seca so much, it's my hometown pride and I'm glad that motorsports fans the world over can love it too.

    @nolandost3070@nolandost3070 Жыл бұрын
  • Love your videos, always! Non-racing related but I was hoping you could start uploading in 4k resolution if possible. It would tremendously improve the picture quality of your videos.

    @hafiz2664@hafiz2664 Жыл бұрын
  • At the time, there was speculation that that was the chassis in which Michael had his crash in. It was then restored and sold as part of the Corsa Clienti program.

    @danesebruno@danesebruno Жыл бұрын
    • Not a chance, I saw the tub after the crash- the suspension arm was punched through the tub on the right hand side, there was quite a big rip in the tub, it would have been cheaper to build a new tub than fix that one.

      @davidgavin7280@davidgavin7280 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@davidgavin7280do You have any photos or extra info about the damage to monocoque? The photos of car on flatbed truck shows what looks like a split tub, with the front separated, but more to the front that in Kroymans case.

      @bartomiejczerwinski5897@bartomiejczerwinski589710 ай бұрын
  • I've had a number of track days at Laguna Seca and I can confirm that turn 6 can bite you. We used to call that inside wall on the left "The United Nations Wall" because it bore the paint from cars of every type of car from around the world.

    @kennethellison9713@kennethellison9713 Жыл бұрын
    • Worked as a mechanic/instructor at Skippy for years there...most single-car crash damage was from turn 6...people lifting/braking after turn-in. When track maintenance moved the wall back (I forget which year that was)...it eased our work load a bit 😉

      @michaelallison2085@michaelallison20857 ай бұрын
  • *WHEN I WAS A KID* in the 80's the garage next to me an a JPS Lotus F1 car and an Elf F1 car sat in the back compound with weeds growing through them... The son of the owner had bought them and hill climbed them a bit and lost interest - this is how the world has changed - this was "Woodkirk Garage" in West Yorkshire, not a Ferrari dealership LOL

    @piccalillipit9211@piccalillipit9211 Жыл бұрын
    • Mental. There is a Senna JPS Lotus among many other rare F1 and LMP cars stored at Normanton, West Yorkshire at the United Autosport factory. Zak Brown owns them I believe

      @ryanp6138@ryanp6138 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ryanp6138 I never knew that - I dong live in the UK now... In those days olf F1 cars were almost an inconvenience, they cut up one of the Brabham fan cars cos they didnt have space for it. I dont think these met a sticky end, Im sure they are in a collection somewhere. We used to climb over the concrete wall and play with them, but they didn't have seats in them. I was always fascinated for the tyre surface had very clearly been totally liquid, I never understood this as a little kid.

      @piccalillipit9211@piccalillipit9211 Жыл бұрын
  • I remember a crash from the Indy 500 in the early 90’s where there was a similar result. As I recall it was the start lap and the front of the car was ripped off and the slow-mo it looks like the driver is running on the wall, but was not seriously injured.

    @Hardrock1a@Hardrock1a Жыл бұрын
  • It's mind blowing to see an F1 car split in half. The fact that it was not racing at the time is testimony of just how lucky the driver was. Thanks for sharing.

    @midas7394@midas7394 Жыл бұрын
  • thanks for the video.. i was always wondering what was the history on this

    @klepetar@klepetar3 ай бұрын
  • man, good job on researching all of that!

    @adamreynolds3863@adamreynolds3863 Жыл бұрын
  • I was there looking down from fence on outside of Turn 6 when this happened (fenced area looks down from loop at end of campground). There was no race as others noted, it was lunchtime parade laps not pre-race warmup. Turn 6 comes after a good straight and speed is carried through turn to get you up hill to top of Corkscrew. As I recall, he oversteered at apex, spun and besides clipping barrier he appeared to bounce as well on the transition from track, rumble strip, and pavement edge before sand trap/runoff. It was quite jarring to see driver sitting there with legs sticking out from severed cowl. I heard subsequently the story about lengthened cockpit…driver and Ferrari would know.

    @markhale8084@markhale8084 Жыл бұрын
  • I’ve been to Laguna many times as a driver and spectator. The photos look like they are from T6, and that is a notorious place for over steer that puts you into the inside wall. The pavement is covered in skid marks.

    @crazzy88ss@crazzy88ss Жыл бұрын
  • there is lot of creativity to illustrate video with such relevant and rare footage. huge amount of work there.

    @Housestationlive@Housestationlive Жыл бұрын
  • yooo i always had questions about this and thought it was photoshopped, thank for sharing man

    @beau9709@beau9709 Жыл бұрын
  • Scott, I'm lucky enough that Laguna Seca is my home track. About 1 hr away. I've tracked my cars many times there and it's literally a rollercoaster ride every lap! It's not a very technical track, but there are little nuances that will make or break your lap. Turn 6 is very tricky with that slight dip at the apex. You can gain a tenth or two by getting back on the throttle fractions sooner, but if you get it wrong, you're in the gravel. You need to come out here for Monterey Car Week in August!

    @STORM3SHADOW@STORM3SHADOW Жыл бұрын
    • i always liked hitting the turn 6 dip in racing games cuz if you hit it at the right angle and speed it acts as banking that you can use to rocket out of the corner. it always made sense to me but i saw plenty of dudes that couldn't figure it out and flew off into the outside wall.

      @oldfrend@oldfrend5 ай бұрын
  • I have researched this a few years ago and never got any mentions of a glued car, although seems realistic now. But few forums from diferent users and periods of time mentioned a specific chassis that was crashed in testing and never got to race and it was supposed to be this car. It even gave a chassis number but I guess it will take me some time because I then wasted around a week reading many and many pages of forums, opinions and in person stories. This picture was used as a thumbnail for many "f1 car crashes" and I didn't even belive it was true at that time. But it kinda makes sense rn that it was a glued car because the braking point is way too clean to be a fractured carbon fiber that has the lines oriented from the front to back and would definitely look like a mess if ruptured. Thanks for the video

    @szabovlad9914@szabovlad9914 Жыл бұрын
  • Having participated in the Skip Barber Racing School at Laguna Seca (only minutes from my home), I can say that the corkscrew is unlike anything else I have experienced. You have got to come out to California when one of the car clubs of the area have the track for the day. I'm pretty sure they will give you a spot. Then you can make an episode about it and write-off most of the expenses. *wink*

    @CreamyItalian@CreamyItalian Жыл бұрын
    • He is an ex-F1 driver...I'm pretty sure he already knows what the corkscrew is like 😉

      @geometerfpv2804@geometerfpv280410 ай бұрын
    • @@geometerfpv2804 He literally mentions in the video that he has not raced at Laguna Seca...

      @kerc@kerc7 ай бұрын
  • There were a few members from the Corvetteforum at turn 5 that day and may have more information or photos for you. I just took a look at the track and I think it came back by us uncovered on a flatbed. There is access off the track at turn 5 and would have been the fastest way off the track.

    @bluecalvette@bluecalvette Жыл бұрын
  • Johnny Herbert had a similar crash in F3000 in 1988, Brands Hatch. And not forget Martin Donnelly's crash in 1990, Jerez. Although carbon fiber was the standard, safe tubs were still learning in progress at that time.

    @bcciuhu@bcciuhu Жыл бұрын
    • Not very similar

      @jamesford3549@jamesford3549 Жыл бұрын
    • The 88 F3000 tubs were renowned for being shite. There were a lot of big crashes that year with tubs getting ripped apart. I actually saw Johnny's crash with my own eyes and to be fair the car too the first hit quite well, unfortunately for Johnny there were other hits afterwards. The 89 & 90 Lotus cars looked like death traps (in my opinion) and unfortunately Martin Donelly found out the hard way

      @davidgavin7280@davidgavin7280 Жыл бұрын
  • I’ve been lucky enough to drive Laguna Seca in my 914-6 on a Monday with the local Porsche club after the historic’s in Monterey. It will be a lot of fun if you ever get to do it.

    @timaz1066@timaz10667 ай бұрын
  • Makes my gut pucker, remembering Alex Zanardi's accident.

    @harveywallbanger3123@harveywallbanger312310 ай бұрын
  • Amazing analysis

    @moustachio334@moustachio3345 ай бұрын
  • Congrats on 1M Subscribers! 🥳

    @SergeantAwief@SergeantAwief Жыл бұрын
  • My friend who works as a ferrari f1 engineer since 1980 and does the cliante people. He has said that these cars are late examples of cars which do this with this type of accident, he says take a look at all other accidents like this in the 70s 80s and 90s f1 cars with drivers having broken legs/feet etc.

    @Peter-ARoadAutosUK@Peter-ARoadAutosUK Жыл бұрын
  • Ferrari in a nutshell: If you own a Ferrari, you don't own a Ferrari.

    @RebelAstronaut55@RebelAstronaut55 Жыл бұрын
  • Laguna Seca is one of my local tracks and I can tell you the corkscrew is like a two storie drop! Very hair raising! Great video and hope you get to drive it one day but bring a barf bag. 😆

    @SackyX@SackyX Жыл бұрын
  • Apparently it was a 1993 car, according to what I just read on ferrari chat website. Accident was turn 6, hit the inside tyre barrier, and it was at the 2004 monterey historic on Saturday

    @Tom_Hadler@Tom_Hadler Жыл бұрын
  • I had always thought that failure was due to the car being a show car, not an actual FIA-approved race-used machine. Interesting to learn it was actually a major modification failure. Cant believe Ferrari screwed that up that bad.

    @mgers75@mgers75 Жыл бұрын
  • I came across the thumbnail picture roughly 16 years ago. So I also did some Research. At that time i read, that the car was build together from two different cars, because it had a crash earlier. But somehow this wasn't done by the mechanics of corse clienti, rather it was done by some mechanics at kroymans. Presumably they hadn't done a very good Job. The Story goes on, that the driver didn't even had a crash, the car just split in half after a while, because of the extreme bumps at Lagune seca. This could explain why the car hasn't got that much damage. But if that Story is the true one, i don't know.

    @monsieurmindstorm2691@monsieurmindstorm2691 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, I don't think Ferrari would do such a poor job on making the cockpit larger.

      @storck08@storck08 Жыл бұрын
    • Nope, the spin to the inside at low speed, then hitting the concrete wall broke the nose off. I was there and saw it.

      @GianniBuroni@GianniBuroni Жыл бұрын
  • *_This is remarkable... feet and legs are most prone to injury in racing wrecks._*

    @SJR_Media_Group@SJR_Media_Group Жыл бұрын
  • Leguna Seca is awesome, did it on a motorbike, loved it 😄

    @bikerchrisukk@bikerchrisukk Жыл бұрын
  • I’ve always thought it was a fake image. I was still not convinced it was true until photos of marshals and mechanics around the wreck.

    @lucabiagini7047@lucabiagini7047 Жыл бұрын
  • Actual proper technique for turn 6 is brake/back to power/turn in. Keeps the chassis balanced through the compression and gets you up the hill quicker. Lifting/braking and turning in creates huge oversteer with the car usually spearing into the wall on driver's left 🤔

    @michaelallison2085@michaelallison20857 ай бұрын
  • I was at the track with a group of Corvette owners parked on the outside of turn 5 when this happened and remember it well.

    @bluecalvette@bluecalvette Жыл бұрын
  • Honourable mention for Mika Salo is in order.😀

    @davidmcvey7091@davidmcvey7091 Жыл бұрын
  • The video of the car had different adverts, so not the video on the day of the crash. Great story, lucky to walk away.

    @carguyuk7525@carguyuk7525 Жыл бұрын
  • Great to hear the story, I remember that picture.

    @pjccwest@pjccwest Жыл бұрын
  • Great research

    @FlixRacing@FlixRacing Жыл бұрын
  • This happened to a mate of mine driving formula ford . All he can remember is flying down the road waiting for his legs to come off . Oh and the £15 grand bill for wrecking the hire car

    @bronoun8884@bronoun8884 Жыл бұрын
  • My dad knows him were also from the area. He also has crashed several Ferraris on the public roads. Even once let his grandson drive it and also crashed it. It was even in the local news. They like speed and crashing for some reasons.

    @stansmith1304@stansmith1304 Жыл бұрын
    • It's fun, many people enjoy that in their Sims: when they don't care about the Bills. The Kroymans don't seem to care for these Bills IRL. Maybe they need reasons to change cars more often.

      @dannyfar7989@dannyfar7989 Жыл бұрын
  • Between "a pinch of salt" and the thumbnail, idk what the best part of this video is 😂

    @Imtherobv@ImtherobvАй бұрын
  • Laguna seca is a fun track, I cant wait to do another track day there. Mate you would love it. Hell I will let you drive my GT86 if you head this way for a track day

    @joshuarodriguez7653@joshuarodriguez7653 Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for this video! I saw this photo many years ago on an F1 forum, and at that time nobody could identify who this was or when/where this happened. So naturally we assumed that it was fake especially because of how clean the break looked we thought someone cut the nose off to stage this photo. I I’m sure with some hours of sleuthing we could’ve figured it out but what can I say at the time I was like 16/17 and it was the mid 2000s lol Thank you for figuring this out and making a brilliant informative video like always!

    @SchrodingersCat8813@SchrodingersCat8813 Жыл бұрын
    • Well, his name was on the car :-) Silly thing from me to say though, but for Dutch people in automotive industry, it's easy as Kroymans is a household name.

      @TheBMW2000@TheBMW2000 Жыл бұрын
  • I've seen this before, thank you for providing the background story,

    @RobinMarks1313@RobinMarks1313 Жыл бұрын
  • "i think there's front wing damage"

    @probyes5627@probyes5627 Жыл бұрын
  • Mate! You have 1 mil subscribers! congratulations!

    @gabi.-34@gabi.-34 Жыл бұрын
  • maybe worth a hint for you - on similar cars: F92A from Jean Alesi -> Freddy Plangger, Germany, a former early days speed skiing record setter.

    @alexanderstohr4198@alexanderstohr41983 ай бұрын
  • "Not everyone is F1 driver small." **Shows clip of George Russell**

    @dustinmorrison6315@dustinmorrison6315 Жыл бұрын
  • @Driver61 what has never been explained to me is: what the hell does aero grip feel like? most of us would like to know how you can just trust it. and where the mechanical grip dominates the tyre behaviour and changes to aero.

    @rat_king-@rat_king- Жыл бұрын
  • I was at the Monterey Historics when it happened and standing next to the car before it left the garages. There were quite a few retired Ferrari F1 cars there. After the crash the car was covered and stored at the end garage with no access to it. I heard later on there was litigation pending. It was known at the time that car had been heavily crashed during it's racing service and spliced back together by Ferrari. I was a guest at the Ferrari hospitality tent at turn 5 and they already knew the history of the car then

    @jimgray6166@jimgray6166 Жыл бұрын
  • Driver69 back with another great f1 video

    @willmcneill545@willmcneill545 Жыл бұрын
  • That was a bizzare & intense crash even doe i don't remember anything about this is still a interesting & detailed video.

    @CubeAtlantic@CubeAtlantic Жыл бұрын
  • Could also be a rejected part by QC or an R&D part not used for racing but good enough for weekend racers.

    @comptegoogle511@comptegoogle511Ай бұрын
  • Ah Leguna Seca, the corkscrew was my favorite turn in gran tourismo, after learning how an individual car handles its always fun to borderline loose control going through that thing t ludicrous speed. The hairpin though, always my achillies heel.

    @Marc83Aus@Marc83AusАй бұрын
  • This guy survives this crash then loses everything he owns/he built... his business., his car collection.. It's like the universe was trying to tell him something. THERE is the interesting story in this... HOW did he mess his business up? Failing in the car business when you have the exclusive rights to all those brands MUST have been the result of monumental mismanagement. (or something even more shady)

    @jamesjross@jamesjross Жыл бұрын
    • He must have done something good because he has bougt all back in 2020 and the dealerships are stil up and running

      @matje3ssen@matje3ssen Жыл бұрын
  • Scott- Laguna Seca is my home track and it is great, but the corkscrew is vastly overrated. Looks great in pics/vids though for sure.

    @OVER5TEER@OVER5TEER Жыл бұрын
  • the Arai (classically a motorcycle helmet manufacturer) helmet really set my mind wandering on whether it was a test driver... but was enough to let me know it wasn't a typical F1 driver.

    @adam346@adam346 Жыл бұрын
    • What you talking about. For quite a long period MOST F1 drivers were wearing Arai helmets...even relatively recently Vettel & Riciardo were both wearing Arai...

      @davidgavin7280@davidgavin7280 Жыл бұрын
    • @@davidgavin7280 with just the plain branding on it? The grid at one point may have worn all arai but I don't think I have seen a single helmet with the arai logo just plain on the helmet... let a lone without any branding or coloring..

      @adam346@adam346 Жыл бұрын
  • I heard it was the same car Schumacher crashed. It's a big coincidence that the car Michael crashed is the same year, and the break is in the same position. That being said, I don't know how or why they would fix that chassis.

    @fastmclaren71@fastmclaren71 Жыл бұрын
  • Love how everyone was there yet all have different stories 😂

    @garethwillis@garethwillis Жыл бұрын
  • the bonding glue was likely really old as welll which might explain such a clean break.

    @mathewphoria7228@mathewphoria7228 Жыл бұрын
  • More like we all know the drivers were Schumacher, Irvine, and Salo.

    @KayJblue@KayJblue Жыл бұрын
  • Interestingly some bonding agents can be stronger than the materials themselves. This shifts the main load to the edge of where the bond starts and begins, causing a break line. So I would venture to guess that it was behind the bond that gave way. It would be a car of bonding agent, but it’s much heavier than carbon, of course.

    @burprobrox9134@burprobrox9134 Жыл бұрын
    • This is always the case. Glue manufacturers use steel plates to test adhesives because they know that the carbon will always fail before the glue. It depends on direction, a car made completely out of glue would be floppy and weak in all other directions than the bond line

      @andrewpease3688@andrewpease3688 Жыл бұрын
    • "bonding agents can be stronger than the materials themselves" this is absolutely untrue and a dangerous piece of perennial misinformation.

      @vibratingstring@vibratingstring Жыл бұрын
    • @@vibratingstring?

      @andrewpease3688@andrewpease3688 Жыл бұрын
  • 4:07 Impact seems to happen on the rear right tire and the front end looks like it just snapped off and kept going. Most likely clipped a corner, tore the rear right wheel off and the front end decided it wanted to keep going.

    @mangobanana7195@mangobanana719510 ай бұрын
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