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Normally you'd cheer up any person doing almost anything, but if you don't give a flying fuck about having knowledge of the matter you are making a " " documentary " " of, then just grab any other thing and make stuff about that. Make entertaining content instead of "informative". Because despite what I'm saying the multimedia aspect of it was beautiful, but chess-wise it's clear you are barely starting in chess or you don' know chess at all. For all you've shown this could be just a mix of wikipedia and chat gpt. And as it should be considering what I've said, your arguments are bs, too. Ding was also facing terrible pressure that wasn't related to the mere sport part of this. All the introduction of every opening was crap. If you are going to say that every opening is solid then just present the fact that in WCC matches the opening choices are solid in general, because what you've acchieved was to present 3 different openings undifferentiated. And the french not being in WCC matches because of it not being understood (what wasn't understood is because there was a shift in opening thinking because of the new methods of making chess engines), the nimzo being "edgy and modern giving the two sides a chance of winning" is another dumb statement. What's "edgy" about the nimzo??? it is modern, but if you are informing mainly people that doesn't play chess or know it that well, what does it mean for an opening to be "modern" ? "giving the two sides a chance of winning" all the openings you presented here have that characteristic, why is that a nimzo characteristic?? And russian chess is not in any downfall... that's like saying brazilian football is in a downfall because they don't win a world cup since 2002... that's the moronic kind of triumphalistic sensationalistic comments that grocery line people make but are just replied by "there's another people involved and there are no predetermined wins" ... I'm from the nineties, I really hate your generation and how stupidly desperate to make "successful" stuff in social media they are. I hope proud in making good quality intelectually honest stuff crosses your mind sometime.
26:43 another statement that reflects that you don't understand the consequences of what you are presenting
@@santiagomorales9129 and what is that??
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"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity" A combination of events may have led to opportunity, but the preparation and readiness at that time determine success.
Agreed. Saying someone got lucky just means they took advantage of the chances given to them by fate. It very much makes a difference but in a chess board there's no such thing as luck. So he won every match fair and square
Blue lock?
@@spiritthe4th321 they did have a speech about that but the idea existed well before that
no way Hikaru takes the draw if he knew it would cost him an opportunity
True every victory ever had can be attributed to luck.
Luck got him to a rating of 2800. I'd love to have luck like that....
Funny, isn't it? In chess, just like in poker, the harder you study, the luckier you get.
its not luck its hard work
@@victorjiang5827 r/whoosh
I wish I lucked my way into a win against any super GM
It requires skill too, and by the way you're talking it doesn't seem like you have any
He wasn’t lucky. He beat out a strong field of candidates and then beat Nepo in a best of 12. It wasn’t like a one game fluke it was best out of 12 games and part of that test is a test of focus and endurance as well as skill. Nepo failed on focus and endurance and lost. Yes, he got a slot after someone withdrew but he was rated strongly enough to be the ‘spare’. You don’t get into that position by being complete trash and just ‘lucky’.
people know it but they don't have enough courage to accept it. God gives him a chance, he takes it and makes a miracle thing happened.
I've always loved the saying luck is when opportunity meets preparation and this is exactly what happened.
I think he was lucky. He should not have made it to the Candidates. But he did because the PRC went full steam for him, organizing those hurried tournaments so that he could qualify. The tournaments did not have the strongest players, as far as I know, but I could be wrong.
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@@sid1gen I don't think you need to be lucky to have that. France set a similar but more about boosting-elo event for Firouzja this year, even though it didn't count in the end.
he honestly was inches from death and the story of ding liren is just a remarkable tale to be told as he went from potentially having nothing to becoming part of the elite and eventually seen as a pro player aiming for the title of #1 in the world. before the pandemic he was a straight up monster notably taking down carlsen in the 2019 seinquefield cup tiebreaks and was seen as the man to take him down but unfortunately like him and a few others such as caruana and mamedyarov they began to fade from the scene. they weren't being seen or paid much attention to which in dings case was the worst as he had no real support while mamedyarov wasn't quite interested and caruana had all the resources and motivation to get back into the main stream. ding went on a road of hell to make it to the candidates and if anything its the struggle at the end knowing he practically was in tears to know It was finally over when he beat ian, it may not have been perfect or the world champion some would have wanted but if they were open minded and looked back a couple years ago they would see that ding definitely deserved to have the spot more than Ian but was neglected. this all made for the perfect chess underdog story in my opinion and it was honestly heartbreaking to see him finally succeed as all the pain and hours from losses and bad streaks were over. ding has not had the greatest time but for what its worth he is definitely one of my favorite players and notably has made his name in the chess world 100%. i hope more people begin to appreciate him like back in the day as in no doubt he is undisputedly the dark horse we were all happy for to make it and really resembled hope for everyone who works hard to improve so yeah lets hope ding gets back on his feet and wins his 2nd match, thanks for the video and hope everyone appreciates my take on the match and ding as a whole!
Ding sucks now and looses to everyone
@@end.olives and your missing the point
Bruh wtf have you ever seen a "world champion" getting owned this hard in tournaments?
@@paresa1601 and ding seems like someone that could be easily pressured into cheating by the ccp in china. The chinese goverment cheats on literally anything to win medals and stuff like that. Their whole society is orientated around the concept of face.
You are right. Nobody îs perfect only GOD and mistakes are super normal. The key îs have fun💪💪💪
I saw this in my recommended multiple times and finally decided to watch it. I wasn't really invested in last year's championship, but this showed me how crazy it really was. Great video.
Same
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Ding is just too humble mate, he deserves every good thing that's coming to him. To be completely honest, he's the only player ever to have consistently challenge magnus in classical chess over and over again. The lines they go into are so sharp that any mistake or inaccuracy can lead to defeat. Gotta love ding.
Carlsen: You seize this opportunity, bro. I am but truly tired of this event. Ding: Okay.
That was a fucking great video, I remember watching the games while working from home and watching gotham’s recaps. Was very fun to relive those days with your added insights
I remember going in not knowing to much about either player, but both grew on me from their interviews there. Watching Ding freeze up in a winning position mid tournament was horrifying and I lost hope for him after, but he turned things around. Pretty insane.
This is the best tribute to the world championship so far
No, this is not the best tribute to the world champion Magnus Carlsen so far, lol.
@@user-ip2ey8mc3h ur right lol
@@user-ip2ey8mc3h Ding Liren is the world champion. That is a fact. No one's claiming that Ding is the best in the world or better than Magnus. But he is world champion and Magnus is not anymore.
@@armstrongtixid6873 *By FIDE version you forgot to mention. The real WC is ofc Magnus, ask everyone.
@@user-ip2ey8mc3h Sure, but officially it’s Ding Liren and there’s no ignoring that.
If you consider Ian and Ding H2H from the first round of 2022 candidates, in which ding lost to Ian, the only time Ding was in lead was that one final game. I don't care when people question him as champion. But from not being able to play qualifying tournaments for candidates because of restrictions, Sergey DQ, having to played 30 games before the deadline, losing first round of candidates to Ian, winning the last round against Hikaru, being on the backfoot throughout the classical games, and that final win. Its pure cinema man, Ding's perseverance deserves him to be the champion
100% Agree with this, Ding's entire journey needs to be made into a movie... Honestly it's so inspirational.
he qualified only coz hikaru threw the last game at candidates. His win was 30% perseverance but 70% luck everything in world went in his favor the classic nepo choke in the end as well when in the entire championship nepo played perfectly only to choke when it mattered. Nepo literally was the best opponent possible for an out of course question like ding. If ding defends his title this year then he deserves it otherwise he will go down in history as the most unworthy champion ever and no one can deny that.
@@morninglion27 this is like those situations when some random on the internet clowns on world no. 2 for not winning 💀. like bro shut up this guy's better than you by a long shot. by definition he is the world champion, as he won the match. like the commentator said, chess is a game of nerves. nepo's choke is his and his fault only, he let his nerves get to him like many times before. it doesn't matter whether he is "unworthy" or not, what matters is that he worked hard to get here, respect what he's done
@@hichewies i would never understand these meat riders like bruh 1 he is not world number 2 he is number 5 rn and he doesnt deserve to be even top 10 by the level of chess he is diplaying rn also are you a but slow or something? I need to be on his level to judge him lol? I can barely play badminton so i cant say that a school champion isnt as good as the world champion? Your logic is flawed and heavily influenced by your meat riding tendency kindly use this bs logic in a place where ppl are as slow as you
@@morninglion27pure cringe ding may not be strongest but he is by no means unworthy
Dude WTF. I’ve been avoiding this video for a few days in my recommended because I thought it would just be another low quality commentary vid, and I haven’t been playing much chess for about a month. Oh my god. This video is fucking phenomenal and not only has it given me goosebumps but it’s reawakened an excitement for chess I haven’t felt since the beginning. The way you explain certain game deciding moves while the openings themselves are unpopular at the top like the London/colle system reimagines the game for me in a completely new yet comprehensible way. Also, the music, like the long chord strings and stuff, shit is creating a godly atmosphere. Thank you, please make so much more like this. I love ❤
good for you!
dude trust me he missed a lot of point a lot of analysis in the game (like the game number 14 it wasnt a completly winning after the ding blunder and the continuatious of the game that he show us isnt the right one). it is a beautiful spectacular video i admit, but it really low as propagandistic and click bait as good chess analysis video... like a good showman, hr make a beautiful show without explaining or go into the real detail. (Sorry for my poor English)
i agree hata
@@absention390 nah you’re goated man like damn 🐐 🤤
@@absention390 hope you’re doing good 😊
“It doesn't matter if you win by and inch or a mile, winning's winning” -Dominic family torreto
Yes
I remember watching this match live last year and it was SO good to watch. Day after day, the big plays, the blunders, the swinging score, the interviews, the recaps, the drama, the comeback, everything. The look on Ian's face, his body language, when he realizes everything's lost, it hits hard. I think everybody can understand fighting for something just to end up short, but to dedicate your life to chess, to spend months preparing for the match, to hold the lead for its entirety, and to see it all crumble in a matter of minutes, it's heartbreaking. Of course, Ian doesn't have anybody else to blame but himself, but it doesn't make it any easier. Meanwhile, Ding's story, before, during and after the match is incredible. The 2024 Candidates is coming up shortly to decide Ding's opponent in the upcoming World Championship. Ding really seems to be struggling to play well lately, so a lot of people are betting that whoever wins the Candidates will become the champion. Well, I don't disagree, but we've seen weirder things happen. After all, Ding was considered one of the best players in the world, perhaps one of the few that could challenge Magnus for the title for a long time before the pandemic. Who knows, maybe Ding will find the strength to play like he used to, or maybe he'll crumble under the pressure, only time will tell. One thing is for sure, 2024 is going to be a very interesting year for chess fans.
“Players will always be remembered by the legacy they left over the board” What a beautiful line to end this even more beautiful video
A degenerated man child, grown by the Chinese dictatorship, who got lucky with the participation, won against the loser of the previous WC .. what a legacy
I may be a fan of Nepo but man you really did a great job, I enjoyed it and I can say that this is better than a lot of the best documentaries and movies. You have my support.
You told a great story in such captivating way, I just at the end noticed it was 50 minutes long. Good job, you have a talent
Amazing video. Great job capturing the emotions of both sides during these games
This is one of the best documentary I have seen, with every single iconic moment captured from all the matches. Loved it! Wonderful work brother!!
Absolutely beautiful documentary, you're destined for greatness, man. Amazing work.
kudos for the amazing video. Ding performs stunningly as the underdog, and i cant wait for him to retain his World Champion Crown later this year and proving that his greatness isn't a fluke.
Excellent video. Takes a synopsis like this to truly appreciate the improbability of the series of events/games which led to Ding holding the title. I really love the guy's humility and the way he bounces back.
Wow, great video!!! I had kind of checked out with the world championship after Carlson abdicated the throne. Love this!
Good presentation. Pulling the gravity of the stage with crisp commentary and music
Fantastic tribute to Ding's incredible journey! This video deserves wayyyyy more view than it has got so far! Keep up the good work!
This documentary was amazing, you've earned yourself a sub sir!
A better human couldn't have become the world chess champion. Ding just floored us with his preparation, comeback capability, resilience, simple humble existence. Never underestimate Ding
I saw a short where Ian grazed the chess pieces with his hand in the last game. That's what brought me here. That movement showed so much emotion, like it came straight out of a movie. With shaking hands, caressing the pieces...Grabbing them all tightly at first, a rook slips from his hand then a knight falls off the table, the bishop then sliding out of the palm of his hand and finally spinning a knight and setting it down firmly. In a strange way extremely beautiful.
what a storyteller. Good Job
Wow, this is amazing man, i have been waiting for this!!!!
This is the best video of the events I have ever seen. I often tell this story of this match, but this was very details-rich! thank you!!!
Ding (before the pandemic) was an absolute monster and could’ve given Fabiano or Carlsen a run for their money. Now he’s burnt out and his playing style isn’t the same. Recently he drawed Carlsen so maybe the old Ding is coming back.
No really,u watch his interview before the wc? He said if he didnt win the wc=he will retire That' s bad motivation Im 100% sure he didnt have any motivation left after winning wc
Got this in my recommended, it's so good! You did Ding justice.
This is an incredible production!
Great vid ! You're underrated, this deserves way more views !
Didn't expect such detailed video - thanks!
BROOOO i never stayed so long in a video interested and less in chess, but this video got my heart pumping like crazy
Dude this was an excellent video. Very well researched with all these compelling off the board storylines.. great job on this! Shoutout to the YT algorithm
We want more of this chess documentries, revolving around the history of chess Loved your work 🤍✨
this is amazing, thank you for making this
Ding managing to win even after that leak was incredible. Great video!
Why you are so underrated.????? Thanks for giving us a full world championship recap .❤❤❤
Great video! Really capturing the emotional rollercoaster that it was. The chess world needs more videos like this💖
Self pinned for immortality. - Magnus
This was a masterpiece of a documentary 👏
Very well made documentaty!Great work.
This was really well done. Thank you!
I watched all this events infold during the wcc match live, yet I still enjoyed watching this documentary immensely.
Liked the documentary!!!! Make one on Ian and his struggles!
Great video! Commenting for the algorithm. Always nice to see some good content.
This video is amazing. The script, editing, everything is great man. Well done
Great story telling, great watch. Thanks!
Ding might not be in his best form right now but he was still second at the candidates and won the title matches. It was not just "luck"
The speech at the end was just awesome... It brought me to tears
I didn't know i could watch a 49-minute chess video.
OMG, you are so good at telling stories, great! Although something was missing in the final, everything else was perfect!
classic long chess video with wild one liners
Dude amazing work!
Real Madrid mentioned, immediate like
😀 I like your logic. I don't follow football, but the RM has its vibe
Part 2: Nepo's 2024 revenge tour. I think he's gonna come back, rising out of the candidates, and take the crown this time
Don't know for sure if he'll take the crown or even if he'll win the candidates this time, but I'm pretty sure that another WCC match between Ian and Ding would be even more intense and dramatic. That being said, I root for Ian (and Ding as well) and he knows he's got a clear shot for redemption no just to beat Ding but to prove to himself that he can be world champion despite all the bumps along the road
5 days later, before Round 13: fingers crossed, but it’s gonna be really hard to achieve. 5 (!!!) people are still going back to back and have solid chances. Probably we’ll see a tie-break.
It didn't happen.
This an incredibly well made and edited video. Well done!
What a recap, It really bring back all the memories. Such a crazy world chess championship!
Sometimes I kinda wish I knew less about chess and just watch this as a complete beginner. Hearing about chess openings, novelties, highest level of chess, time pressure, and so on and so forth, this video would have blown my mind. Yet I got to learn this game at the pandemic and one of the first videos I got to watch was an analysis of a match between Ding and Fabi where I got to hear all of these things first hand. This was a banger series of a world championship, Ding deserved this title and no one could tell me otherwise.
This chess documentary has "FlameisLucky" vibes, just like his 2 chess documentaries. Good job man!
This video is fantastically well done. Even already knowing the result, the storytelling was extremely entertaining.
The video is so well made. It's beautiful. Thank you
So beautiful, it captured the essence of the Championship, thank you TheCheckmateCorner for making this vid!
"Nothing happens by accident," Dr. House
This was the "Bloodsport" of chess
He surely spent all of his stamina in his run
Oh God my mind thought of a completely different video when I heard the background music
You made me laugh. 😂
if ding win 2nd world championship then it will be biggest shock and legendary moment in chess history
This video is Gem 💎....it should skyrocket...❤
One of the best chess vidoes. Loved it. I always liked ding
You should make more videos like this. I will support your videos
Same with Toronto Raptors championship, perfect storm of other teams injuries and such
I'd never had to watch that much gothamchess before i saw your video... that guy really has to chill.
OMG. you got all my attention for 50minutes, great job great video, Keep it up mate.
More tournaments have come and gone and Ding is still incapable of showing the prowess we expect from a world champion. A pity. He seems like an absolutely nice guy, and he had an aggressive style before the pandemic. Also, is it me, or he appears to be suffering from some sort of ailment? I suspect health problems now.
RIP to those ppl who avoiding this video in their recommended feed
Wow the quality of this docu is awesome. first time i watched a whole 50mins video. the music also contributed to continue watching. Thank you stranger. subbed.
Astounding documentary. Great background music and voice over. Absolute W content.
yeah, it's a pity the "documented" part of it wasn't very "documenting". But hey... engaging images, pauses, color, noises. What do we care about the actual content, right?
No such thing as luck for Ding. He busted his ass off...worked his way to the position. Put himself in that position. Saw an opportunity and capitalised on it
This is the best chess video I have seen by far
I mean, Magnus had luck on his side during the Candidates where he won against Kramnik (because of his ego) where he beat Vishy.
It was all because of Ivanchuk lol
The slight difference is that Magnus went on to immediately and absolutely dominate the world of chess for ten years and four more World Titles. In fact, he was dazzling before the Candidates. Ding would have silenced a lot of critics far more important than people like me IF he had gone on to play magnificent chess ever since becoming world champion. But he has played very poorly, as if his rating were really above his punch. We agree that Magnus had luck on his side. Everyone needs Lady Luck in order to triumph. But Ding has done precious little with his crown all these months except prove his critics right.
@@sid1gen Was Donovan Bailey not the fastest man in 96 just because he didn't run against Michael Johnson in 100m at the Olympics? Was Demark somehow not the best European football team in 92 just because Yugoslavia got disqualified? When you win at a tournament widely regarded as the tournament to determine the best at the game, you don't need to win it over and over again to prove that you are the best. This is not the GOAT debate, stop treating it as one.
@@xianyuli6977 Stop telling me to stop! Ha, ha! Joking. Look, I understand that this issue can get emotional for some people. Some guys have shown to be really hurt by my comments, and I wish the best for Ding! But being the WC presupposes that you are the best. If you become WC without defeating the man who's universally considered the GOAT, then your crown may be a bit big for your head. Is it unfair? Yes. But that's the way things are. Technically and factually, Ding IS the World Champion. Tremendous achievement. But I will continue to see his title as a bit diminished. Regardless of what others achievers have done or not done in other disciplines, this is chess, and you are supposed to be the best in the world when you are World Champion. It's not in the rules; but it's in people's minds. It's in my mind. You disagree with me? Fine. I will not tell you to stop disagreeing with me. Go ahead and dissent all you want. And, xianyuli, if I want to treat this as the GOAT debate, I will treat it as the GOAT debate. Get used to people not agreeing with you. You are in a public forum. Welcome to our Agora.
Yes everyone did, if your opponent played perfectly the best you could hope for would be a series of draws followed by a coin toss - had all of magnus' opponents played like stockfish engines he'd have been lucky to draw a single game in his career, but they didn't and he exploited most of their mistakes while making very few himself
Did you have some video about the match Kasparov and karpov mentioned in this video?
One of the most well made youtube videos I have watched.
The Luck Factor and the Hard Work & Ability to make Magic work
I got so hooked 50 minutes felt like 10. Amazing video 🎉
AMAZING WORK! thanks!
He is preparing for Gukesh now
great video man that was uber nostalgia
Thank you for making and sharing this
I love this whole story and I am so happy Ding is world champion, his will be a story for chess history I’m sure
literally anime, ding, despite all the difficulties, was able to become the world champion its brilliant
It seems like the most talented chess professionals who have mental health challenges are in hell a bit more than professionals in other competitions because mental health seems to be more of a significant part of chess. Ding was the most sad winner I've ever seen lol But I'm glad he's still alive and trying to live through whatever he's going through. That's more important than chess.
Brilliant documentary. It should be shown on Netflix, really.
I have been watching chess since about 2020. I have watched Ian play the world Championship twice and both times I was cheering for him. To see him fall over at the chess board live in that last game hurt my soul. I hope that he can win his third Candidates and final take home his world championship.
It's as if god wanted ding to win all along. Like the most unexpected turns happened at the most unexpected times... Karjakin got banned, which nobody expected, leaving one final spot open for ding. Then, FIDE came up with the rating rule, which was the only hope for ding to play the candidates. Then, he didn't even have enough games and the chinese chess federation somehow managed to let ding complete 30 games in 30 days... Then he gets to the candidates, has a bad start, then strikes back in the most impossible way with so many back to back wins. Then he somehow clinches 2nd place. Normally, 2nd place in the candidates means nothing. But for his sake, magnus withdrew and now even guaranteed him the WC challenger spot. Then in the WC he was immensly struggling vs nepo, and somehow nepo missed golden chances, even in the last classical game to clinch the World champion title. Ding was hanging onto the last thread for all this time. Then in the absolutely last game he ends up winning. Like this can't be all a coincidence, someone definitely wanted all that for ding.
There is some level of luck the top players say. But most of it is experience at that level.