Mbeki slams MK Party and his successor Jacob Zuma
2024 ж. 13 Нау.
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Former ANC President Thabo Mbeki has lambasted the uMkhonto weSizwe Party and his successor Jacob Zuma for saying that he is still an ANC member, but campaigning for the newly formed MK party.
Mbeki also commented on the DA's letter requesting the United States and other Western countries to observe Elections in South Africa .
Speaking to SABC News, Mbeki also says he will campaign for the ANC.
He also touched on the developments in Senegal and Haiti.
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In the wise words of Madiba....if the ANC does to you what the apartheid government did to you then you must do to the ANC what you did to the apartheid government...
But he never said the state capture enablers should be blindly followed right
@@sentsolebatla2512 I think hes looking down on SA and thinks what I have left them with they have completly distroyed ...hope gone, trust gone, ANC gone....the blind leading the blind
But the ANC has not come anywhere near to doing to anyone what Apartheid did to all of us black and white. So this doesn't apply. But I think we all have to wake up to the reality that "demoncrazy" is a system of the masters of wealth and will always be in favor of those who have the best means.
But what I don't understand in this act 0f Zuma and the MK is that, it seems the ANC made wrong now not during his 9years. This slogan can supported by all South Africans if it was said by young and newly established leaders, not this Nkandla person who ruled for 9 years recently 😢
Nice quote but Mandela never said that.
It breaks my heart to see the generation of patriotic leaders like Thabo Mbeki phasing away, while we can't find replacement for them.
It breaks mine too to see the likes of Mbeki attacking their fellow comrades for exercising their rights in this democratic society. Ufuna ukushifter blame to Zuma ngoku? Yena after saying all what he said thinks we will change like he did and now vote for the criminals? Kant emhlabeni kunjani?
We have EFF and Julius Malema to replace this incompetent old man called Thabo Mbeki.
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😂😂😂 joke of the year
This "patriotic" leader denied poor members of my family hiv/aids drugs. They died together with 330 000 others. He is responsible for their deaths
Mbeki is too reasonable for the militant revolutionaries. Their ego is too big to put South Africa first.
How is Mbeki putting South Africans First when he tells you straight up that you are not going to get the land? Your mines, land and reserve bank will be in the hands of foreigners...are you even listening? Or Zuma's scapegoating is blurring your reasoning
MK will not do better than ACDP & the FF+! 😂NOW TAKING ALL DELUSIONAL BETS
Zuma saved millions of lives by rolling out arv treatment while Mbeki was speaking big English debating whether hiv causes aids….he never campaigned for anc during Zuma presidency and nobody said anything about that. He recently said he won’t campaign for anc because it’s full of thieves. I sense that he never recovered from Polokwane loss, he expelled Zuma from government as deputy president and Zuma beat him and became anc president the rest is history. After all most members of anc have dual membership of sacp and anc, at some point sacp wanted to go independently from anc. Infact some even had triple membership anc, sacp and mk. They just dislike Zuma for what reason? They know! I don’t get what the fuss is about!
Poverty stricken South Africa?
@@BronxWavyI'm just laughing the comments
One of the best intellectuals that our movement has ever produced…
Produce what the man behind COPE him And TiTo Mboweni and Manual mxm wena Mkhize
Just to fulfill a hullabaloo say.No action from him.intellectual just for nothing..From his presidency we benefited nothing.
Our problems today started back when Mbeki was the president. He used organs of states to fight his personal battles. Mbeki must answer for arms deal. Mbeki knew about the Eskom problems and he did nothing. Mbeki killed our people with HIV and AIDS
He remains the best president we've had .jz was a disaster
What did he do with our two thirds majority we gave him?
It seems In Zulu minds, the only perfect leader in S.A must Zulu according to all this comments. Guys great leaders are judged by their leadership characters not race and tripes 😂😂😂
U need to start thinking
They will only respond with insults
sizokushaya wena, uyadelela lomuntu
That's because all of them are dump, the only thing they know is "nkabi yam"😂
Is ànything mentioned Zulu maybe i missed? Or your mentality is kind of tribalist mind. Thats what happens if you're tribalist, if someone talk to you it sounds tribalist.
1. When Madiba was in charge, President Mbeki was pulling the strings from behind. - During his presidency, South Africa's economy was growing. - The debt-to-GDP ratio was less than 50%. - Some of us, fortunate enough, started thriving businesses in the townships. - The Safety and Security Cluster was effectively carrying out its duties. - The mood in the country and in Africa was positive, contributing to nation-building. - South Africa was respected and taken seriously on the world stage. - We were looking forward to voting for the ANC, a united movement. Even though I don't trust Ramaphosa for lying about dealing with corruption and lawlessness and for doing nothing when our businesses were looted and burnt by criminals, when Mbeki says I must vote for the ANC, maybe it's time to listen.
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He is now mixes his word's, he's said how can someone vote for imigodoyi ( dog's) who are leading the Anc,we will wait for the 29 May to make our choice
And then that red jelly tot Julius the commie campaigned to get a successful president out and put that scum Zuptha in.
Never
We don't eat GDP
The problem with educated people is that they dont understand how Zuma beat them with his grade 2 now he is trying to stay safe but he is not
Most SA voters are not educated and uneducated people must not vote at all. That is why we have challenges today
I just wish for a second rsa citizens should feel ashamed of themselves and make a different for the future of our children...Africa will never change the more things changes the more they stay the same....
When Zuma pjsses on his fans, they think its raining
He lied and you all believed him and south Africans like to favour thugs and speak in forked tongues
Who is educated in view or which part is lead by educated people.@@ignatiouschikurahove7239
So now we are suppose to vote for a criminal. Mbeki needs to stop talking.
We are a country with hard fought freedom, where nobody shouldn't be forced to vote for whoever they want to. You have a right to not vote for them but some people same rights you enjoy to vote for them
Who is the criminal? JZ / CR
@@nthabisengkwayiba4573 we all who have criminal record between the two And we all know who stole money from public purse and who was the victim of theft at his home ,we all know who's still have unfinished court cases. Lastly Ramaphosa was never accused of rape that's all can say
Mbeki is the greatest South African president of the 21 century During his presidency South Africa was booming
Cyril
No person in their right mind will want to associate themselves with this party
you are quite right brother, they are even threatening to destabilize the elections, its just insane
Most recent polls have shown this party grow to the third largest in the country, ahead of EFF. Absolutely shocking how many people support Zuma after everything he did to this country
well jacob did say he doesn't like clever blacks...
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202 The electorate gets to be given a choice to paraphrase Maggie the Iron Lady. After the 30 years of 'democrazy' we have had, we really ought to have a deep look at the choice, we can't keep blaming the voters as it will start bothering on insanity
@@RG-jr8ym If you choose, you can say that for another 30 years but if you know what Magret Thatcher said of British politics, then you would know that it is time we look the other way, otherwise we ourselves are not 'clever black' if we keep blaming the voter
It's hypocritical to castigate the leadership of the ANC but you campaign for them. Obligation my foot.
When we still have apartheid beneficiaries privileges who never apologized or saw nothing with it. Or what it did to blacks, and nd they still want to rule over the same people who were disadvantaged and brutalized, but because they don't have scars and bruises of the past. They now say, in their party policies they don't see color but treat everyone equally regardless of the different backgrounds. And if they get in power, they would scrap every policy that's been set to redress injustices of the past For me ,it's not hard nor difficult to understand why former president Thabo Mbeki is doing that. Because we ( blacks ) can still notice our scars and we felt the same pain, it's easy for us to understand his stance. My guess would be, you never went through what we've been through.That's why you don't understand his stance
Who cares about your foot
That's called being conscientious and sober minded. Critical thinking is an important part of leadership and a healthy organization. Once you create echo chambers, problems ensue.
@srininaidoo, he's not campaigning for the leader/ship of the ANC but for the ANC as a party. It is possible for one can support a party without necessarily supporting the conduct of certain people in the party.
ANC is the idea, not the members 😅. "We might die, but Rome will live forever,"
If Zuma defines himself outside ANC then why ANC can't let him go??? For political party that is over 100 years old but still don't know how to deal with such matters😢
This old men is evil and dishonest. At some point he made it clear about what he think about ANC now he said any card carrying member is required to campaign for ANC but during Zuma years he refused
They can't even deal with themselves...black people for the last 30 something years they won't change...that is why we will stay poorer even for the next 3 generation to come...
@@DumaM-ir7rkhe is contradicting himself
I hope Mbeki will remember this He also wrote that he was surprised that Zuma had publicly announced that Mbeki would campaign for the party. "I appeal that nobody should abuse or cite my name falsely to promote their partisan cause, including how the 2009 ANC election campaign would be conducted," Mbeki wrote. Mbeki said he was still deciding what to do after losing the presidency. "Whatever I do in no way involves me in the internal politics of the ANC or the functioning of the government of South Africa," he said.
@ Dotata2009 this evil old man is a dictator who was power hungry. Thinking he is the only one who can save South Africa. Mbeki he is that narcissist friend who think the whole gang must listen to him only because he possess Bachelor of in Economics not bachelor in commerce majoring in Economics atleast.
Thabo Mbeki was an ANC member when he co-founded and voted for COPE.
If that is true then..... There's a problem here by what he said
And this is not true
President Mbeki was never perfect yet he still remains the best President of the Republic of South Africa we ever had... Period
Liar
The who had 2third majority in parliament and did nothing with it
Y you say he was the best..mention the things he did..nd we I will tell you Y someome did better than him
Mbeki had the chance and the power to dismantle Apartheid Economy with the Two Thirds majority. Instead he brought neo-Liberal GEAR policy from Washington that promoted White (Apartheid) Economy, creating the world's most unequal society with wealthy White European colonists and poor Black people
Who closed all skilled based institutions and turn around advocating for "skilled foreigners" to come work in South Africa?
Is Former President Mbeki ever campaign for ANC while Zuma was President if not he has hatred against the Man
A question to all MK members, your president says he still remains a member of the ANC, are you also ANC members? if not why?
You know that Zuma is a polygamist and he sees nothing wrong with it!His votes will be shared between ANC and MK!National MK and Provincial ANC! Most voters has shared their votes between parties especially in local government elections why because all the parties cannot be trusted!
You are waiting your time. They can't read. Send a voice note.
They don't know. They just do what Zuma does
Fuseg rubbish
We are confusing the enemy 😂
It's obvious why ANC declined in 2009, Thabo Mbheki and his friends formed COPE, taking lot anc members. Mbheki had 2third majority in parliament,, but as black person I can't point out anything he did.
Mbeki is the white people tea boy or ice boy. They willl never upset any white establishments no matter what. I call them your typical uncle Ruckus
He stepped down when requested. He did not try to hang on to power. Like Jan Smuts, he is at intellectual. They never do well in government. Sad. Viva South Africa. Love to all.
If you can answer the question of what was the South Africa's financial rand and South Africa's commercial rand and what became of them then may be you can look again at your assertion. If not then I don't know what to say.
@monwabisitembani6319 what's your point exactly, trying to sound like a political scientist
No point at all.@@BronxWavy
Why doesn't Sophie ask Mbeki about formation of COPE. These journalists are not interested in revealing truths.
Malema's gibberish sounds palatable to your ear.
If there is something former president Thabo Mbeki should do is to take South Africans seriously and tell us what happened to President Nelson Mandela and Chris Hani then l can take him serious otherwise he has no back bone to me and remain an agent just like his president Ramaposa
You want to dwell in the past and it’s not going to take South Africa forward. That is not a solution. Focus
I must be missing something but how are people sticking up for Zuma when he was president for 10 years and didn't do what he says the Mk will do. he had 10 years to do what he says
yes You're definitely missing something, i mean a lot.
@SidoMadela it's ok to say 'l like zuma, wrong or right. I'm with him' the guy is very charismatic, funny. Entertains and sings very well. But let's not deceive ourselves, his leadership is a direct reason for the downfall of the country and the ANC
2/3 majority sdomu ndini. That gives you enough mp to change umthetho sisekelo stunxa ndini.
Ubavala amehlo futhi nabo sebevalekile,naye unomkhuhlane wenkohlakalo,😂😂
In the captured ANC majority view prevail and therefore how are you sure he was not out numbered because what he is talking about he has said those things in his speeches back then but not supported behind scenes, even when he announced free education he was widely insulated by the very same ANC leaders who have today reversed it
Mbeki will never recover for not finishing his term and he wasted his two thirds majority he had. He must eat presidential sassa
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Zuma is still bitter about Nasrec and being thrown into prison by Chief Justice Zondo...
@@CMNMEDIA1a joke 😅 how about you Xhosas and Mbeki being bitter after defeated in Polokwane and start mobilizing your colleagues in any states organs to assist you pushig revenge agenda🚮 telling us of cangaroo set-ups commission🚮
Thabo Mbheki you not truth to yourself as well, you want to be seen honest man while not
Rubbish u MK and criminal zuma supporters
ARE you honest to yourself? Wena!!🤔🤔you zupta supporters we know that we have a constitution "Roman Dutch Law" in our country. Which is giving you that privilege to think and talk the nonsense you have been thinking and talking. If it was not for it you would not be allowed.
Are u from KZN? If you are then nothing new there, Mbeki and Mandela might as well be the devil himself to you. We know that.
Liar 🤥 under Thobo Mbeki everything was 100 pecent until nafaka latata wenu he destroyed yonke we are in this mess bcz of Zuma
What happened to your COPE , Mr Mbheki?😂😂😂😂😂
My brother died during his tenure, refusing to rollout arvs
Your brother was supposed to wear condom🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Your brother should’ve stopped smashing raw
People died during Covid ..who do you blame? Please
We buried more than 6 family members in 2 yrs coz of hiv/aids- he disapproved arvs,💔
Some times we fail to tel our loves ones to use protection wen engaging oneself to sexual activities wen infected we. blame others as if Bheki was supposed to teach and follow them to check tht are they using condom in the bedroom ,stop blaming Bheki your brother failed to use condom,and codomd were free and still free,during COVID people were failing or rather rufusing to wear musk ,are I still going to blame Ramaphosa ,shame on u and each one of us should be responsible to his or her health stop blaming Bheki
Stupid Mbeki. He said he won't campaign for Thieves. He must focus on ANC
He was talking about those who formed MK Party!They are the real thieves and looters!Now Mbheki can campaign freely and let ANC gets 60%votes!
He is going to campaign, Jacob Zuma project thieves agone.
That's his rights to campaign for it or not, nothing to do with anyone
I remember that
@@sentsolebatla2512but not JZ?
He didn't campaign for Anc under Zuma actually he refused now he says he's obliged to compaign 😂
Campaign for corruption tsek
Hypocrite!!
@@user-ug6pf7lg1w this ANC he's campaigning for is not corrupt?
😂😂 The ANC is destroying itself. Job done
Themselves and south africa
Thabo Mbeki is a big hypocrite, he said he won't campaign for imigodoyi but now, the words coming out of his mouth are astonishing, I'm totally flabbergasted. He also thinks too much of himself, if there is anything he wanted to know about MK, he should've contacted Msholozi from the beginning for accurate information. But he has acted like all other deceptive hypocrites, already commenting negatively without hearing the news from his comrade or former comrade. No wise and fully mature man act like that. Thabo is overrated, he's only an average intelligent gentlemen but doesn't possess wisdom . He is too old and too tired, he's no longer relevant in South African political space.
Well said
Why was Mheki brother the wise man not our president?
Mr President Mbeki you failed to talk about the Genocide that is happening in DR Congo instigated by Paul Kagane the same folk that is inviting you to a controversial genocide celebration. the genocide that happened in Rwanda it lack of truth and honestly.
Mbeki did not want to vote for a criminal but suddenly is voting for criminals is money and positions
😂😂😂😂 this guy mbheki , 2/3 majority did nothing
Yes, Senegal and Haiti should be our focus, not Israel. Both these countries have African people that are in need! Charity begins at home!
@thomasbisschoff7136 while you focus in killing Palestinians and Russians? People of Palestine and Russia didn’t look away when we were in trouble and we can’t do that to them
He wrote a long letter to release someone whom he knew nothing about a left his comrade be jailed without defending himself in court. Which resulted in more than 200 innocent people be massacred in Phoenix. Mxm
Sometimes izinto ngathi nizijonga niqhunyiwe nina bantw abamnyama
We know what FNB did in Zuma's term and we know that Mrs Mbeki is the shareholder .
So you're saying Palestinians supported ANC during apartheid can be massacred and that to you is ok?
He is mad he wants ubaba to lower himself to him
Mbeki was never corrupt to dis day
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Hello, where do you live? no one in the ANC id free of corruption.
Correctly so my Leader, Mr Zuma is out of the ANC, case closed. He must just focus his strength on matters of the MK yakhe. ANC will continue to govern SA with integrity, bring about stability and grow the economy.
If Biden can Lead Mr Mbeki can too bring Mbeki back
So mbeki say is not going to campaign for anc now what 😢😢
Some of us ANC is in our blood not the individual pls don't insults us🙏
He was undermining MK....ha ha ha ha shame and we are waiting for 29 May will take ANC out..😂😂whether they like it or not🙅♀️
He is procting his wive we know.... So we don't need to waste time for this.....
@@WinkieMabija KANJANI? NAFELWA THRU YONA. Im sorry for that but we are suffering its no longer serving us.
@@ntombizethumbatha195 u quite ryt we suffer under Zuma2 🤭
He had said he was not going to campaign for an ANC that is led by a criminal but he has since changed his tune. Flip flopper
The criminals and criminally charged people are no longer leaders of the ANC. Didn't you hear about the new election slate of the ANC? Mbeki understands that the current leaders are not criminals.
Money broe
@@gambu4810 go comment in Zimbabwe. This is family affairs.
@@gambu4810 Phala Phala criminals are leading the ANC
@@gambu4810 🤣🤣🤣
The idea that a party should choose it's leader is just criminal, until then we will still suffer in the hands of those we donate our votes to, regardless of who they are.
Some people blind minded by favouritism and tribalism for Zuma who exploited every sector with his Guidant in his presidency - Guptas ...every SOEs had Gupta Virus syndrome...All these out cries and 30years ANC failures have been identified after Zuma why ?? Ofwhich Zuma is also part of that 30years come people don5 be biased and tribalistic minded we go nowhere with tribalism the only results it's war in which I definaty sure is what you are dreaming of in your mi ss...
Mbeki did not do much for black people.... H e just played it safe and wrote Poems...
Absolutely 💯
😂 mxm
Thabo Mbeki & Manto Tshabalala-Msimang's preferred herbal remedy products (beetroot, garlic, and lemon juice) killed an unnecessary number of HIV/AIDS patients 😢, although ARV drugs 💊 were readily available.
Stats say otherwise. SA’s most successful post apartheid economic growth happened during Mbeki’s presidency
He presided over RSA's highest growth rate and lowest unemployment to date.
You say Zuma is not honest, is ANC
Do you remember how Zuma says he took a shower after...to wash off ....? Do you also remember when Zuma said he built Nkandla with his own money ? Do you remember ? Do you remember when he said he wants his day in court and when the day arrives he tried to avoid the day in court? Do you remember Guptas? I think Zuma might be honest
Honest questions/reminders for a thinker my friend. Unfortunately, for some, hearts and not minds are at work. Zuma said ANC will rule until Jesus Christ returns. I am laughing hard. He’s with MK as we speak.
Zuma messed up this country finish
@@chiefer1325 we remember but we have NO CHOICE. Malema still needs to grow. The ANC failed we must give MK benefit of the doubt then if nayo ngasiphethe kahle sikhipha.
I think we should also remember how Thabo Mbeki killed many South Africans by denying the fact that HIV leads to Aids and that people should be provided with medication to supress this virus. We have not forgoten that tgis is the very same Thabo Mbeki who assaulted Winnie Madikizela Mandela in full public view.
Zuma is now giving most of us the reasons to vote for ANC. We have bn waiting for ANC to fire Zuma
My president JZ, I only remember him reading a script saying 'in the beninging, in the......beni.. benini....in the beninging.'🤣
Mna I remember uBra Mbalula ethi parents must go to school and children must go to work eqhunye zidrugs 😅
Reporting only the negatives about MK will have zero influence .
Till this day President Mbeki never liked the fact that he was voted out of power by President Zuma. It happens its life. But we must respect both men.
Tell where we are bcz of Zuma?
My brother died his tenure, refusing to rollout arv.
Mina it was my mom Bro
And Zuma rolled out ARV's, so do the right thing people
Were they injured in a war?
Stubborn Mbeki never apologized for killing our relatives through refusing to release ARVs, I wonder why does he never arrested for crimes in humanity
@@Lunga3 Mbeki never poisoned the water or the oxygen,he never infected your relatives with H.I.V Even the developed countries were still sceptical about ARVs,who we are as South Africa to be sure that these things were going to work,even today ARVs are issued for free but our hospitals 85 % of patients that are lying in these beds are ARV and PTB defaulters. Ppl today dnt want to go to clinics and take their medications,today condoms are for free ppl dnt want to condomise but still want multiple sex partners.
Zuma destroyed the ANC, it will take time for ANC to renew itself
Who in his right mind can really trust Zuma in S.Africa unless they want to destroy our country under Zuma
He cannot be trusted, a lot happened under his leadership.
Angela Jeffery write a disturbing book title."Anc Plan To Destroy SA"they succeeded well in doing just that.Only two people,Jacob Zuma and his folliw on Cyril Ramaphosa Phala Phala Ramadollar.🫢😯🤦♂️
Since Thabo Mbeki is so brilliant can you please explain to South Africans why is there load shedding on weekends because on the weekend 30 percent of business is closed schools, courts, Machanic and many more so just bare in mind here on the ground we are also observent
Former president is correct what kind of south Africa we want
Most of the comments come from a place of disappointment when Mbeki confirms he will be campaigning for his political party, the African National Congress. What were you expecting?
SABC can give anyone who hate Zuma platform it will not change that people love Zuma
SABC!?
Yes Thula
Meaning it's a futile exercise to try to stop Zuma.
@@busikhoza7903 Can Zuma legally be president for a 3rd term? It seems the CONSTITUTION stops Zuma
@@BronxWavy that's the equation???
Why didn't you ask him why he changed his mind about campaigning for the ANC. You could have also asked him about the rumors of him forming COPE.
The issues relating to the ANC and Jacob Zuma have in my understanding led to the current situation of confusion as to being a member of a party but campaigning against it. The correct position was that he(Zuma) should have had the decency to step aside before he was even called to, while the deputy pres if the ANC. But the party split into many factions and will die as a result. Leadership must put the needs of the people first but not in the case of Zuma. As for a party that will change the political landscape to the point of delivery of services to the people regardless where the reside, no party can ever achieve that. The DA is not capable, all we have to do is look at the Western Cape
😂 Thabo Mbheki trying to be relevant !! His Cope failed he must not talk of MK. Let him campaign for a dead useless ANC and keep Zumas name out of his mouth.
Absolutely
Retire Old man, you're tired
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Honourable Mbeki,you are quite right but there are young people who now take stand to fix South Africa and have answered your question of what kind of a country we want.Vote arise south Africa.
JZ did not rebel here. He is entitled to join any political party and that is a democratic right.
Otata umbeki siyKukhumbula 🎉🎉❤❤❤
Hayi! Ungasibali thina tuu. Awukahle bo!!
Umkhumbula wedwa🖐🏼
speak for yourself, please
But you said you won't compain for thieves.
Old, forgetting and not knowing what he stands for
The genocide in Rwanda was caused by french governments not president Kagame ,later France called for african summit.
MBEKI is AN Opportunist not a politician
Thabo Mbeki is defending the Oppenheimer's interest in South Africa politics
I'm a Member of the ANC i will die as Member but i won't vote for them 😅😅
Thabo Mbeki is the one who told us that anc is full of criminals 😮
Abusing Women on national television, how many of women been abused since 😳
He's claiming to be perfect
MK will have do better than EFF's 1st year campaigning elections, 😂 which will not happen
Dream on...we like it when you fulls underestimate MK.
that's not the case sir/ madam, it's just that Msholozi is exploiting our tribalism. Unfortunately some traditional Zulus look at him only as a Zulu man not the character of a man
@@SgubhuMkhize agreed
@@Coco-kw3iv you are dreaming because numbers don't lie
@@SgubhuMkhize uyabheda wena. Aphi amaZulu e Eastern and Western Cape for an example? Why did we qualify to be voted there?
But sir... with due respect you committed the same sin when you said the ANC must convince you as to why you should vote for it.... and by saying that your vote is your secret.
The guy who said he wont campaign for criminals now is going to campaign for the ANC.Was that not campaigning against the ANC criminals
People who like Mbeki are thoughtful and middle class, don't bother yourself with cheap propaganda...we not vagrants like Zumaists
@@simphiweclement4656 And that statement has just made you think you are very smart.Yet matric is difficult to finish
The ANC has operated with so much impunity for too long now. Regardless of who is at the top in this party, the rot is too widespread for this party to redeem itself. The biggest tragedy here, is the killing of a dream, all because the cadres have been feeding like pigs at the trough!
I personally think it's unfair to label DA as not trusting IEC, who does really? I don't trust IEC myself, and I would have done what DA did, and I'm sure something will be exposed and DA will be vindicated..
Because the same DA got sponsors in US, why it should where their funders are there? And what if all the parties choose to go and invite their all favourite countries?
President Mbeki, please come back as President - The country needs you.
your country, not SA
T.mbeki is telling the truth..it doesn't make sense to campaign for another party but still holding membership of another party..its more like having and affair outside marriage..so thats a betrayal in a marriage
MK should be competing with IFP and stop day dreaming.
If that's the case ANC must stop being obsessed about MK
You guys scared of MK and you make me laugh🤣😂...you must understand that we are going to vote MK either you like it or not..ANC will be out by 30th of May...
9.7 million members in 3 months can't compare and compete with 400 000 members in 60 years baba vuka.
@@malusilinganiso3862you smoke too much crack that's your problem
@@samkelisiwecarolmlambo8231It's your right to vote, nobody is stopping you, but remember Shaka Zulu is dead 😭
ANC IS WINNING LANDSLIDE KANT EN KLAAR🖤💛💚✊
Dream on, and don’t wake up. 😂😂😂😂
KANTS. KLAAR🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Landslide victory nationally But provincially,a HUGE 🗻 to climb😢😢😢😢
Mbiki you are right something wrong to MK as party its own , try to separate one to be two things. Totally wrong.
How can DA trust the ANC government because people are not following the SA laws and the constitution. We want SA to follow the constitution and its judiciary without favour or fears. Whites were given privileges that the natives didn't have 😢😢😢
Don't worry Mr Mbeki we on the ground we will vote for ANC I support you statement today thanks Mr Mbeki
Imigodoyi 😅😅
Zuma is like me.I am member of FFPLUS but I'm voting for DA😂😂😅😅
He was supposed to say nothing about MK issue
Mbheki is no1 umgodoyi
He is correct.In fact he should say more about mk that’s threatening violence. Army and police must be geared up.
You are clueless and Dumb
why DA involves west on SA affairs, another reason for me not to vote DA
I like how T Mbeki respect the people he's talking something is clean not a an old aged liar
I still wonder what is it that makes people to join MKP I just need someone who can explain to me.
Is like asking that question to a phara after having taken a pool of his or her zolo.🚬😂😂VIVA Anc Viva!!
@@PhumeleleSibeko-lu4czhahhahaah nguwe kanye addicted viva anc yamasimba? Ilizwe litshabile ngenxa yalemigulukudu. Inesibindi sokuthetha ngepool zenyo yakho mxm.
Because is our choice and is a new party sesicikekile ANC isihlukumeze kakhulu isimbele amathuna siphila amasela odoti asiliboni elinye qembu hope phendulekile
So says someone who said his vote is secret
Dishonest old men
Every citizen's vote is a secret. DAH!
@@lwazigobodo6840 everyone knows the narrative
You can tell Mbeki was sat dawn otherwise he will loose benefits
We can't go on to vote for the anc with the none performance of 3 decade it's ridiculous
Mk will go the same way as all others who broke away from anc eg.pac.udm.cope .mk will become irrelevant
They were saying that with eff
In your dreams
Even if you say that, you still know that Zuma was the best of all of you combined together .
you are a clown🤡
are you serious busi?
Yes he was the best especially for native South Africans
@@Qotha how come ? because during his reign there was rampant corruption , himself with the Guptas who as of this day they don't want to come back and defend themselves, remember their aircraft landed in an airport reserved for presidents only, during Zuma's reign. Don't talk about the economy because it was just downward spiral, no growth.
@ lizzyndlovu5843 you must ask yourself why DA want Americans to interfere in our democracy. ANC was in power and I have never seen DA panic and asking for the international community to help. Not even EFF has shaken DA . This tells me the true democracy will come with Jacob Zuma and he is the only black men who stand with the natives
Comrades who breakes away from political parties and formulate their own parties,must first go back to political classroom .
Mr Mbeki you should tell us in public about the formation of COPE before you talk about MK
Leave Zuma alone, concentrate on your cope.
weeeeh
a man without a child will never ever lead people. What does he know about human nature
And the rapist can lead?
@@user-yb2th6dq4o an accused that was declared innocent by a court of law has a right to lead
Did his leadership powers die when his son died? How does it work exactly?
@nhlanhlagumede Cha Qwabe akukhulunywa kanjalo
@ nhlanhlagumede376 Mbeki knows very well any bad decisions will never affect his great grand children. The Mbeki brothers are evil and dirty they really hate black people
In the same time that Gaza reports 30K deaths ( we don't know how many are combatants), in South-Africa, almost 15K people have been murdered, thousands raped, metros and rural areas are going without water (but not because of drought), 1/5 children still going to bed hungry, pit toilets, etc. At the same time R9 million that could've built 180 RDP houses, was eather used to send 2 superfans and a delegation to the RWC. Maybe, just maybe, rather work on the problems at home?
Vote DA, ActionSA, BOSA!