Why Zuma should not have been President
2020 ж. 30 Қар.
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Former National Director of Public Prosecutions Bulelani Ngcuka shares his thoughts on the work of the NPA and why Jacob Zuma should not have been President. He was speaking to Xoli Mngambi on Newsfeed AM.
let us leave politics to the best ,i respect you Mr Ngcuka and u explain these things very well ,those with eyes and ears truly understand what you saying
You just display your naivety and ignorance. Lleaving politics to the politicians is the reason for the very corruption that we are experiencing. Are you that biased (simple) that you cannot use your intellect and morality to decide what is best for the country? Obviously not - which is why you voted for Zuma.
@@argentnexus7129 Your vote doesnt change shit, Mandla is correct, they are in it to eat like u are in ur job to eat, they are not studying politics and political parties to save us eh
Bhuti Mandla, best observation. I have a Revolutionary Love for this Comrade Adv. Bulelani Ngcuka who made His call of duty a most Professional one and made the NPA a most operational Directorate within the State of RSA. I Salute the view you share too, my Leader 🇿🇦🤜
@@did.it.myself9022😮
Bulelani is always in his full senses when dealing with state related matters. He new his work well and able to balance politics with prosecution . Well done Bulelani .You bet well when you were on the crease.
Thanks Adv Bulelani Ngcuka. SIYABULELA MHLEKAZI. SIYABONGA. 👍 👌 Congratulations 🎊 👏 💐 In your mind and your heart don't you feel that you have what it takes to be a suitable replacement for Judge President? To the Presenter, what a great interview 👏 Indeed, the respected and honorable Advocate is 💯 % correct that if the NPA did their part to earn their keep, the Zondo Commission was definitely not necessary. A billion rand later NOTHING IS DONE. The Judge President, called for prosecutions and got vilified by criminals and corrupt cadres of the ANC. Shamelessly SHAMILA ignores her job but proudly spends the Taxpayers hard earned money. 😢 SHAMILA is warming her seat shamelessly and with " dignity and pride", she and her unqualified gang are enjoying their salaries when the country is bleeding. Some people have no integrity, and no pride. What a sad day in SA 😢😢😢
My favorite Advocate Bulelani Ngcuka
how fitting this interview in terms of what is currently happening
right? it brings so much into context
The npa could foresee that the ANC was totally , with both feet , involved with the Gupta and money laundery was coming in all direction ,, and there couldn't secure witness protection because of mostly , it involved high profile , ANC office bearers ..
Professional Advocate Ngcuka, you did your level best as the head of NPA, but politicians beyond your level of serving are the ones who tampered with the case and made it worse to look more political. I salute you My Leader;
The justice system is biased. There is a law for the rich and separated law for the poor. We are not equal before the law then.
absolutely correct,we having a worst and worst Justice.
Thats universal. If u're rich, u can pay your way out of almost anything. Even fake your death and go live your rich life in the middle of nowhere.
Indeed, if you have the funds all you need is a good law representative and then you home and dry.
@@thabangmotaung4759 absolutely correct, we having a useless justice in South Africa,thugs like Zuma,Magashule excetra excetra suppose to Rot in Jail,unfortunately our justice are just worthless.
@@lindilemgqobele4337 Oscar was also home and dry ,the 1st verdict was 5 years Culpable homicide, however a normal citizen would have been sentenced to life imprisonment.
Belelani, that interview was quite an eye opener. You have a backbone sir. You've earned my respect. You did not earn that position for nothing. You have what it takes. Bravo 👏👏👏
Xoli, thank you again for delivering this kind of videos to the people, as always where you reveal critical issues where the community ends up not trusting and believing in our judiciary law and the government and the judiciary institutions anymore. As they are denied, literally by the government to do what they know and believe in, as they are always threaten by those who are in the Parliament above them in so many ways, even if the evidence clearly shows that. The bad thing is that our future generations are going to realise that, pursuing those kinds of professions it doesn't work anymore,as they will have to be forced to do as they are told, instead of doing the right things they've been told by their tutors. As only that, shows how much will almost every person will be living like puppet, as there is no government including law anymore. Which i can conclude by saying, there has never been a law in our country, as we now hope that the EFF party is going to over turn all that, because that is the hope to each and every South African citizen.
What I don't understand is that most people all the time underrate Zuma cos of his educational level BUT Zuma is full of wisdom & very clever. All these shenanigans that are attached to Zuma, he doesn't do all those things personally so it is very difficult to pin him on all those things. The fact that, that an educated fella played his cards right & correctly to the point of manoeuvred up unto the highest office in the land of President in a very advanced African Country like South Africa with lot's of educated people & a population of around 50 million. That alone speaks a volume, it also unmask what kind of a person is Zuma & what kind of intelligence this guy has regardless of his educational background. Like him or hate him but the guy is more than clever than an average university graduate. He gives orders verbally something that is very difficult to be proved in a court of law cos it doesn't leave a trail. This Country needs to forget about Zuma and forge ahead just make sure that never again to fall in a same Zuma pit.
Today we will never vote for a Zulu president bcz of yo Dom Zuma.
@@yayaacombi6224 Uwena isiphukuphuku la.
Let's not try and romanticize the situation. A greedy man took over the resources of the country and divided it up amongst ANC elites. Meanwhile the rest of the people who voted him in remain poor and unemployed
@@yayaacombi6224 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 They will hammer you for this comment
Yeah look else where, phala phala, bosasa, state capture eskom war room and more.
Eish This is the kind of man I would vote for president.
Great man Mr Bulelani Ngcuka
Well said Advocate Bulelani Nqcuka
I love this interview, Mr Ngcuka well spoken man and I wish you were still in the office to help the country.
No he also has a soft spot for senior politicians, may be you didn't understand. If you prosecute such person you must think of the impact that affect his daily office role. Crime is crime it doesn't matter what office you occupy
uZuma washo ukuthi akafini ukubulala I ANC wayilwela ngeke ke ahlale Uma isithi akasuke okubuhlungu ke washiya abazoyibulala . Kunencwadi ebhayibhelini sengikhohliwe ukuthi ilaphi, ethi , Nigxosha mina nje niyozisola ngoba emvakwami kuzofika izimpisi ezihhahhayo ezingawuhawukeli umhlambi wenkosi, ilento eyenzekayo njengamanje kwi ANC.
@@thembekilemkhize are you referring to the situation where Zuma fired Malema?
Thank you for this interview. It answered a lot of questions some of us have been pondering for years
Ngcuka is professionally sober minded.
He is compromised
@@wondergenaro2881 How so?
Becoz he is not professional and sober minded
I get you my leader 🤣🤣🤣
@@wondergenaro2881 uyagula mgodoyi
You don’t say?? !!! He seemed so honest and educated!
Bulelani is a genius
He really brought clarity and dispelled all those political lies he was accused off. The only issue though, why people were not prosecuted because of the political ramifications or positions they held? Crime is crime even if you hold a prominent political position or you are a deputy president. If you guilty then you need to face the full might of the law.
That's exactly what brings Africa to its knees
Very credential legal guru! Adv Ncquka is one of the legal persons i admire most...i remember watching this moment with Mxolisi in the lead.
Bulelani ❤ thanks for your information
How the stature of our African leaders have fallen. From the freedom fighter Nkrumah to the corrupt Zuma how far our state of affairs have fallen.
I think, that you should check -out: Fred Swaniker.
This is a very strong man Mr. Ngcuka. U got my respect 👊
Very good journalism and an interesting interview
Agreed Gareth.
One of the best interviews that I've ever seen.I must say it was eye opening n intriguing.I just wish u can interview more people's who are comes from different spheres of leadership, whether political, business n even religious leaders.
Sharp mind and sincere man! Bless you sir...🙏
An intelligent man and a valuable asset the country needs
Membership of the ANC is not about cards,"what a powerful statement"
It is true what Ngcuka is saying, prosecution without clear evidence is fatal to a prosecutor's career especially when the prosecution is against a high public figure.
I enjoy this conversation everytime I listened to it
GREAT CONVERSATION .....
I read the title, then I looked at how long the video was, and immediately I thought, that's not long enough?
That's my uncle I'm Ayabulela Ngcuka
So what if he is your uncle!!
Ntswembu le ngwenya
He is straight up
Thanks Bulelani for clearing the air
Wow! I am impressed...❤️✊🏿👌🏿
In such interviews I really miss Mr Xolani Gwala. I’m sure we would have watched a different conversation.
Intelligent man indeed
Ngcuka says there was no evidence and even now he doesn't know what evidence they have now but he is still involved in the case.
Seriously? Please listen to him again. Not enough evidence to win the case and having no evidence are too different things. You cannot bring a person in court unless you have enough evidence to secure a conviction. Even a person guilty of murder can walk free if the evidence is not enough. That does not mean they are innocent. Of course he's part of this case. Not as an investigator!!! As a person who'se name is FOREVER LINKED to this case!!!
@@RadientZAR5749 Thami is an idiot 🙄🤦
I picked that line too
Bulelani indoda emela iqiniso ngyabonga mina ngokuzwa lendaba bengingayazi
Thank you Newsroom Afrika for your robust and provocative journalism that is embedded to a cardinal of transparency without fear, favour and prejudice. From where I'm sitting I'm very much satisfied with your work and you are the best.
Great interview
We lost such capable people during zuma wasted years
Indeed
Indeed 😔
Dont allow tribalism to blind you..the one we.have now is a disastėr...he failed from the beginning...let us be honest.
@@nathimagwaza-nu1jc on the contrary...criminals are being arrested and arraigned
And Jacob... Did he fail you guys before the beginning?
Here's your man. He has my respect and admiration
"I didnt believe that he had the competency for the office". Absolutely priceless.
"Cyril is the best that we have" That says a lot about the NPA.
Mara Xoli kept on mentioning that the decision not to prosecute was based on political consideration yet the man kept on saying it was based on insufficient evidence Ay nani kodwa Xoli🤦🏿♂️
The goal of the interviewer is push the man, that's how journalism works to dig deep. Because even ngcuka there are things he won't say on media.
@@mduzondi or he was just trying to push a certain narrative like they always do🤦🏿♂️
Yet evidence was overwhelming ayi these compromised advocates
Whoever writes these KZhead titles should start a blog and a channel and an NGO because where in this interview was this said? Hai man sukani with your activist journalism
You, sir make a very valid point!!
What former NPA Boss is telling us the public, is that our status when it comes to prosecution play in favour...he must admit he played foul, it clearly shows if it was anybody he would've been arrested right there, but some won't be arrested. ZA judicial system for you
today we are paying the price of uncalculated moves by the judiciary.
Exactly
Great work tholi
I thought concrete evidence is the focal of prosecution, regardless of the citizen status of a person.
You thought right. He did say he did not have such evidence at the time.
not having enough evidence doesn't mean Zuma is innocent, but is professional of the NPA to want to have a substantial evidence before bringing someone like President Zuma to court, we are all the same before the law yes but it would be irresponsible if not knave of us to thing that any ex president or billionaire is equal to any common South African Citizen
Well Mr Ngcuka we may be back to square one because the police in the Eastern Cape have refused to investigate a case of murder saying to the father of the victim they don't go to villages where sheep are grazing. They only go to cities and townships. When they were called to the place where the offender was threatening people with a gun, they asked if anyone has been killed yet, and they never came, 2hrs later the man was gunned down. That was more than 2 weeks ago, still no arrest has been made. This is what is happening now in South Africa.. People are allowed by police to get away with murder because police will not live their comfort zone. Today the 19/06/2021 that boy was buried. The person is known to the victim and relatives but police refuse to go and look for him because he happens to be in the village, a no go zone for the police of O R Tambo district
Emotionally games on us now.
Mr. Ngcuka...much respect sir.
We got to deal with corrupt politicians decisively.
Mr Ngcuka is telling us in many words one thing that we are not equal before the Law. There are those untouchable individuals.He just made it clear. Thank you Mr Ngcuka for your honesty.
Not only the NPA was not doing its job, also Parliament was not playing its oversight role. There was just no government during the Fifth Administration.
Most intelligent President in RSA....
@@lindokuhlemthembu3015 SA is swimming in a pool of debt because of corruption.
Corruption begins since Madiba took the office
@@lindokuhlemthembu3015 Corruption was worse during apartheid. The difference is, since the Europeans as Whites used to call themselves, did not consider Africa as their home, they were taking resources out of SA to their home countries. Hence there were no checks and balances until Audit laws were enacted in1998. While it was understandable for Europeans to be corrupt with impunity, it surely shocks for Africans who claim patriotism but still subject people of this country to the same sufferings they were subjected to by White Supremacists. Unlawful personal enrichment can never be part of the revolution in One's home country.
Do we have government in this administration?
Why are we leaving Gordan's case like that after those fireworks?
Fire works????, the lawyer was childdish ,everything is racist in South Africa now a days
No one is leaving anything, the Commission is yet to arrive at a conclussion and make recommendations.
@@peterlukas1964 when did he mention race ? Try again clever one.
@@dandyally9983 didnt you hear him ,he want to make it all about race, open your ears
@mluleki . Godarn is a president is untouchable
That's true Cyral is the best thing ever we had to save our country 💯
Put shaik back in jail. His medical parole is a joke.
He has a terminal disease! Life is terminal!
Brilliant interview. Thank you!
The country nearly collapsed.Thanx for intervening timeously.
Jacob Zuma was the President of South Africa Period .Your Obsession for Jacob is Annoying .you have been talking about Zuma for more done ten years now you come with excuses for lack of performance full of nonsense
True
True you yourself is full of nonsense and shit too.....here a man was going to be persecuted without evidence and be destroyed for who knows what......ungazosinyela la.
Zuma did not respect or take orders from WMC. We know that WMC owns the media in SA. Fool the rest but not all of us.
Happy that the is someone not sleeping
WMC is where you come from?
@Nyange Ndimbuza how did he destroy it you puss
@@mthokomkhize5007 do some research and dont just rely on Emotions. He brought this country to its knees
@@alisonquinn7143 lies, it's not the 90's anymore. You can't feed us lies and expect us to agree with you people. President Zuma is for the people, not your puppet ramaphosa
For seeing Ramaphosa as the best thing we have says a lot about you.
It says a lot my brother
Whoever owns Newzroom and ENCA wants Zuma in Jail so bad... it’s disgusting. 🚮 The man keep repeating himself that he had no good evidence to prosecute Zuma but the Anchor is trying to impose the narrative of “ fear or favor “ Xoli you should be ashamed of yourself
I agree with you
They are trying so hard and theres nothing tangible
So basically u called editor's and u asked to right positive stories about u ? Malema is right there is no free press here but invisible politicians
Mr Ngcuka asked the editors to investigate and if there is any negative findings must be put on a public domain
Listing is a skill Mandla, you are not a bright person, shut up
your ears are in the dust bin. go and collect them
The Executive cannot alter the the sentence itself. Remission cannot detract from the quantum
Bulelani made Xoli look good on this interview
He is good, like it or not
@@mphondabambi232 Xoli is not a clever journalist
@@zizikunene2857 how do you know?
@@mphondabambi232 refer to his interviews from the time he was with enca, then will discuss he never researches the topics his interviews on repeats questions already answered 👉🏿doesn’t pay attention.
Prosecution of the despised has become a soapie in South Africa. It's like days of our lives. It's boring and useless
Adv. Ngcuka is an honest man in did
He sold he soul to zuma.
So you have the capability of posting fast 🤔
The interview with Mr Ngcuka was quite enlightening about some issues in the prosecution space from the time he was heading NPA todate. Thanks to Xoli and Mr Ngcuka for such a well conducted interview.
that caption of this broadcast, nxa niyahlanya nina. Wawufuna kube wuRamaphosa noDe Klark yini?
Xoli Mgambi Jealous Down I respect You Sir
Zuma again🙄... Our journalism is nonsense🤦♂️
😭😂A smear campaign
@@zippy8484 are you guys really that stupid ! Can you not see beyond black
@@amm7088 no we can only see you
@@dandyally9983 an expected answer!! No wonder people the poverty and squalor that will forever remain ! The perpetuation of colour and not a brain to rule. What happened in Zuma s era is not rocket science ! It is common knowledge !Wake up smell the coffee , Zuma is rotten to the core
@@dandyally9983 good for you
powerful legal mind indeed ................his views are reasonable
Mr Nguka is very much self contradicting in his answers and I would love you to play this interview to him if he will give you the same answers he gave in this interview
Very sharp mind ,I like the way he gave answers to the questions asked .
We study the same Law. There’s no Law that should be interpreted by Bulelani differently.
He still looks good and strong. Otherwise thanks Xoli for an interview that helped answer the many questions.
Why upload this after a week? Why must we complain 1st before doing the right thing
On credibility; "As far as I know now..." a few seconds later "Yes! The NPA has been compromised in recent years" Advocate confuses me with 😂😂😂😂
You are a slow learner dude
@@MrSihle1 this thing of seeing other people stupid if they don't agree with your view reveals your ignorance
His mannerisms when speaking are like Thabo Mbeki's.
That's true 😂
Okay fast forward to year 2024 . Few more weeks before the elections and are we still seeing things this way/agree with some of the things said here?
news room Africa has became no1 in SA
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He had been the president of the Republic of south Africa for almost eight years (two terms), not one term. Even Malema said it was an error of judgement, for two terms. Maybe you were incompetent, I'm not sure
for the whole 8 years all of them were drunk from the day they took that decision till they went to the second conference and they gave him the second term!Yeah right.
One wonders to what extent does the belief influence the decision of the prosecutor and mantain objectivity. "I did not believe..." As opposed to "I had evidence that there was no competency...".
Lovely story on how msholizi was gifted to South Africa. And created he's lovely mindset of being above the law.
Msholozi, not Msholizi Slima
Zondo is not a criminal investigation but is a judge,so he judge zuma how was the investgater becuse judgement is coming after investigating
This headline is sensational. It is very misleading
It proves the agenda they have against Zuma, bias media at it’s best🌚😓
We really need Advocates like you Bulelani , you really done a good good job during your tenure in your office .
Ngcuka was right when he said had they prosecuted Zuma there would be pandamonium...and yes thats exactly what happened more than a month ago with the destruction caused by Zuma's followers.
Meaning after they failed, they started to cooke the case again
Crystall clear former NPA Head…
So even in this guy's day the "Bell Pottinger BS" was being used to spread BS
Wtf u on about
41:56 mr ngcuka u served very well with his excellence thabo mbeki.we miss u alot.
The problem of seniors in this country; who are all confident, powerful and comfortable with the system that isn't working for the country or at very least the majority of the people in this country, is not just big but permanent. These people are victims of a system that reduced them to animals then later became their friends and lovers(dandy). That resulted in them thinking that only them knows better for this country and we are here because of them. They won't even question their current and past decisions they have taken because being wrong isn't their strength. My opinion is that we have law that fears the media because they don't based their facts on truth but evidence. Sadly evidence is just material
Unfortunately, everything you wrote here is the truth, which begs the question that most of the time crosses my mind but seems to be foreign to our leaders, which is, do we as citizens think we are more special than other African countries that met their downfall because of the reasons you stated above? Because sometimes,it would seem, from our way for example,of making everything a joke that we think we'll never be a Zimbabwe, Ghana or DRC just to mention a few.
Ngcuka: Mpshe you know you took the decision. Mpshe: hwahwahwa....
These people are waiting our resources because we need jobs but they are busy with useless commissions using money that is needed by SA
Xoli, it is just so BLOODY annoying, listening to a qualified lawyer answering so stupidly. By not doing what they know they are supposed to do,according to they have been taught. As a results he is now lying by mentioning things like threads, hate and many of that kind. If that it is how it works, then it is useless for us to send our youth to learn practice judiciary law, as it sounds so stupid because instead of practicing what they know is right for them to do, they are going to be dictated upon to what they should rule their cases, which sounds really, really stupid and annoying. Right now I'm going to mention that, should they have given JZ a period of 50years behind bars, he would have not in an accident, which is much making headlines every day in the press, as JZ, would had been safe. I think the judge is just embarrassing himself and well as degrading the profession as a whole, while N
"people that were exposed to us" 👌
Leadership vacuum
The question should be " if he was still the president of the Republic of South Africa in 2020 "