Neoplatonism in Islamic Thought
It's time to talk about a few ways that Neoplatonic ideas have shown up in the history of Islamic thought.
This video is part of an amazing collaboration with ESOTERICA, Seekers of Unity, Angela's Symposium, The Modern Hermeticist and John Vervaeke. You can find their videos on Neoplatonism below:
ESOTERICA: • The Ancient Neo-Platon...
Seekers of Unity: • From Neoplatonism to K...
• The Untold Story of Pl...
Angela's Symposium: • Plotinus & Iamblichus ...
The Modern Hermeticist: • The Platonic Philosoph...
John Vervaeke: • Levels of Intelligibil...
Sources/Recomended Reading:
Adamson, Peter (ed.) (2005). "The Cambridge Companion to Arabic Philosophy". Cambridge University Press.
al-Ghazali - "The Niche of Lights". Translated by David Buchman. Islamic Translations Series. University of Chicago Press.
Daftary, Farhad (2007). "The Isma'ilis: Their history and doctrines". Cambridge University Press.
Chittick, William (2005). "Ibn Arabi: Heir to the Prophets". OneWorld Publications.
Chittick, William (1989). "The Sufi Path of Knowledge: Ibn 'Arabi's Metaphysics of Imagination".
Chittick, William (1998). "The Self-Disclosure of God: Principles of Ibn al-'Arabi's Cosmology". State University of New York Press.
Chittick, William (2005). "The Sufi Doctrine of Rumi". World Wisdom, inc.
Dillon, John (1996). "The Middle Platonists". Bristol Classical Press.
Gerson, Loyd P. (ed.) (2019). "Plotinus: The Enneads". Cambridge University Press. (This is the translation of the Enneads I have been using in this episode).
Gerson, Loyd P (2008). "Cambridge Companion to Plotinus". Cambridge University Press.
Ibn Sina - "A Treatise on Love". Translated by Emil L. Fackenheim. Medieval Studies.
Ibn 'Arabi - "The Ringstones of Wisdom (Fusus al-Hikam)". Translation by Caner K. Dagli. Great Books of the Islamic World.
Ibn Arabi - "The Universal Tree and the Four Birds (al-ittihad al-kawni). Translated by Angela Jaffray. Oxford: Anqa Publishing.
Ibn 'Arabi - "The Openings Revealed in Makkah: al-futuhat al-makkiyya". Translated by Eric Winkel. Volumes 1-4. Pir Press.
Morewedge, Parviz (1992). "Neoplatonism and Islamic Thought". State University of New York Press.
Ormsby, Eric (Translated by) (2012). "Between Reason and Revelation: Twin wisdoms reconciled". An annotated English translation of Nasir-i Khusraw's Kitab-i Jami al-hikmatayn. The Institute of Isma'ili Studies. I.B. Tauris.
Proclus "The Elements of Theology: A Revised Text with Translation, Introduction, and Commentary". Translated by E.R. Dodds. Second Edition. Oxford University Press.
O'Meara, Dominic J. (1999). "Plotinus: An Introduction to the Enneads". Oxford University Press.
Wallis, R.T. (1998). "Neoplatonism". Second Edition. Bristol Classical Paperbacks. Hackett Publishing Company.
#neoplatonism #islam #philosophy
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:18 Collaboration
02:16 Neoplatonism: a recap
04:16 The beginnings of Neoplatonism in Islam
10:47 Falsafa (Philosophy)
12:19 Ibn Sina (Avicenna)
18:58 The Isma'ilis
22:15 Mysticism & Sufism
27:54 Ibn 'Arabi & Neoplatonism
50:36 Islamic Neoplatonism today
51:22 Summary
55:52 Concluding words
This video is part of an amazing collaboration with ESOTERICA, Seekers of Unity, Angela's Symposium, The Modern Hermeticist and John Vervaeke. You can find their videos on Neoplatonism below: ESOTERICA: kzhead.info/sun/jbpupcaIh6yKao0/bejne.html Seekers of Unity: kzhead.info/sun/iNGkipdwan6ZinA/bejne.html kzhead.info/sun/ec1shqieooZ7f4k/bejne.html Angela's Symposium: kzhead.info/sun/n7KqnrKiqnl7q4U/bejne.html The Modern Hermeticist: kzhead.info/sun/it6daZyRinlse6s/bejne.html John Vervaeke: kzhead.info/sun/f8akY9B5bax5nJs/bejne.html
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said "O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued." (The holy Quran ch22 v73)
I think this collab was a tremendous success. Between all of us we've basically put together a whole course on Neoplatonism in the space of a month. Awesome!
@@TheModernHermeticist I agree totally, thank you.❤️
Replace the word "religion" Because islam is not just a pure religion 100% Islam is a political country too
why do you keep calling Islam western? it is not western, it's christianity that's eastern. Shocked at the arrogance/ignorance, especially coming from some tundra inhabitant.
You have a very unique way of explaining different ways of religion, philosophy in a highly non-judgmental tone. In today's world its very very rare.
Totally agree 👍
@@gnasher688 Amazingly, I agree❤️
@@cheri238 - why amazingly ?? 🙏
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@@hasanpiker9472 After hearing a speaker for hours and not being able to pinpoint his ideology or religion , speaks a lot about him and his exceptional skills. I heard him for hours and I'm still not sure what school of thought he is inclined to.
This was just exquisite, a supreme tour de force. To think that such quality is available for all, for free, it's just incredible. What an immense service. Not to be taken for granted. Thank you Filip. It's a true honour, delight and pleasure to be creating content alongside you. I know how much work goes into it. Respect. With love, Zevi
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@@Call_Upon_YAH Or to put it more succinctly: He sent Himself to have Himself killed as a sacrifice to Himself to save humanity from Himself.
@@Call_Upon_YAH how do you know what jesus said, as everything that was said about him happened 40 to 80 years after he died.
There's no place on KZhead (or earth, for that matter) when one can be free from annoying Christian fanatic proselytising 🙄 and yet Christianity is fading out anyway. How come?
@@Call_Upon_YAH you lost me at KJV, bottom feeder
I thought peeps would appreciate this quote from Matthew Fox in The Coming of The Cosmic Christ. "Without mysticism there will be no deep ecumenism, no unleashing of the power of wisdom from all the world's religious traditions". I hope you know Filip, that you along with your colleagues, are doing a great service for humanity. Keep up this holy work.
I have no words to say how praiseworthy you guys are.
It's hard to appreciate anything from a video that claims Sufism was influenced by Islam but provides no evidence. You will find no mention of Plotinus or neoplatonism in the literature of Sufism from the earliest of times to after the demise of the relevance and popularity of philosophy altogether, long after al-Ghazali. There simply was no interest. Neoplatonism is an academic fiction.
Cosmic Christ. Hilarious. Space Jesus. Celestial Savior. Silly. Christ means MESSIAH, the anointed, and has nothing to do with outer space, unless you mean the heavens. The world is a hilarious place, with the most ridiculous ideas being taken seriously by the most ridiculous people.
Mysticism is a generic word used by Academics as an umbrella term to describe what they imagine is a secret part of religion. Because they don't know what else to call it, but it does not apply to anyone in specific. Nobody calls themselves a mystic who is not a conman. Mysterious rites are more of a pagan thing. The Elusynian mysteries for example. Academics and religion just don't go together, academics don't have a mind to understand religion and don't care if they are wrong, much, because it is just academic to them.
That quote sounds like what someone who wants to be quoted but has nothing true to say, would say. But mysticism is a very abstract thing with no real definition and none of the other things mentioned ACTUALLY need it to exist on their own.
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That sucks. Bangladesh is a crazy country
@King Of Detroit We are all walking in seas of maddness in our world today. All societies are being affected. Human nature 101. Wars for profits, powers of elites of greed.
@@kingofdetroit358 And how is that, have you ever been here? Which country are you from?
@@kingofdetroit358 maybe you were thinking about Detroit ( that sucks) How ridiculous you are to make such a statement . May God bring you out of the toilet that you have fallen into ☮️
Typical Peter griffins.
Great topic of study for the day... Looking forward to digesting the rest in the series... But tbh your delivery and tone is just on point... Many thanks to you and the rest of the team covering the various aspects 🙏🏼💯🙏🏼
Thank you so much for this topic on neo- platosim and the other links. I appreciate your analysis as always. Truly, it is a complex topic. Thank you for your wisdom and ideas for sharing with all of us who enjoy different philosophers and religious schools of thought and ethical backgrounds to gain more exposure to many I have not read about. As always, I appreciate your all your lectures and videos. With great respect and admiration, I am eternally grateful.❤️📚 This film of nature is magnificently placed.
Thank you very very much! It was a great journey! And a great thank for the literature list that you are given! Discover your channel just few days ago, and will definitely be watching all the precious research and topics you've covered. Thank you for sharing a network of channels and researchers on such incredibly important topics that you explore not in terms of profanity, but in terms of good academic and thoughtful comparative analysis. Your channel is like a breath of fresh air. God bless you and success in all your endeavors and activities!
I actually shed tears on some part of the videos, great work!
I'm really enjoying the series on Neoplatonism. It's all very high quality content from everyone involved. You have a way of explaining philosophical concepts such that it's a bit easier to digest/comprehend for someone outside the religion.
Bro. This is only a delusion. Don't believe him. Please do your own research on that topic and you'll see yourself how much mistakes he made.. let me ask you one thing. How can Islam pick and choose only the correct things from the Greek methodology and leave away all the false things they believed in? . Don't surrender your brain and intellect to him please.
Wow! This was an amazing lecture! That you are able to cover so much in a deep way is powerful! Thanks for one of the most succinct and beautiful English overviews of Ibn 'Arabi EVER!
This is all nonsense. He's only trying to deny the prophet Muhammed peace be upon him to be a messenger from God. And he failed as all his those who did the same try have failed. So what is you ( wow ) for?
I cannot thank you enough for your tremendous contributions - I am full of admiration and inspiration by your balanced, insightful, Illuminating lectures.
Mr, Filip Holm I will listening to your lectures for as long as you lecture I can't get enough of it thank you.
This is so well put together 👏, thank you 👍
This is something I asked during my Middle Eastern studies, and I never had the tools to research outright. Thanks for making such an informed video on how these ideas moved and changed!
And sorry to tell you that what you just heard in this video is abolute nonsense.
@@user-em9cr8pr5qHow so?
Remarkably valuable episode in and of itself, but the value of this entire series is staggering. Thank you profusely for the effort that you and your colleagues are undertaking. Enlightening on so many levels, it defies explanation. Thank you.
Such a wonderful synthesis, a joy to witness, thank you for all your great work 🙏
You all have read my mind and desires in creating these magnificent chapters on the influence of neupltonism. “God created them and they walked together”. I don’t think it is a coincidence that I found and follow you individually and suddenly you are collaborating in something I really wanted to know! Blessings. ❤️ Elena
In this era where most people spend their time listening or talking nonsense, listening to such an inspiring presentation is like finding a priceless treasure. Thanks for making this happen.
Unfortunately nothing is more nonsensical than the claim that the Sufis had any interest in Hellenic philosophy, Plotinus was unknown to the Muslims and neoplatonism was invented by modern academics, did not really exist.
Amazing content. A lot of themes and ideas that are well expressed. Thank you.
One more great presentation, Filip. And this collective effort on Neoplatonism is really outstanding: i am trying to watch as many as possible.
I wanna chew out my philosophy class for never teaching me aaaanything about Islamic influence, but the prof probably just didn’t know either. It’s just so sad out how our education system has been so built to uplift one people, when we’ve all been struggling to understand and be kind in this world and just aaaaaaaaa Anywho!!! Thank you so much for all the work that you put into this videos
I challenge you to produce a single example of Islamic literature being influenced by so called neoplatonism. Few and far between were the Muslim philosophers who knew how to separate religion from philosophy. The allegation if influence is hypothetical and without real evidence.
I applaud your philosophy teacher for avoiding such a fantastic claim. It's really easy to claim that Islam or Sufism were influenced by Neoplatonism or Greek philosophy. It's impossible to prove.
The most important reason why neoplatonism could not have influenced Islam is that it was created by modern academics to describe many ancient philosophers and philosophies and make it appear that they belonged to one school of thought. This is a fantasy.
You could search the literature of Islam for years looking for a single reference to the name Plotinus and what you will find is that he wasn't known. An-Nadim mentioned just his name, saying he saw it written on a scrap of paper. This is the only mention of Plotinus. His Enneads was attributed to Aristotle and was unpopular, after Al-Kindi nobody pays attention to it.
It's neat at first when you find out that the Arabs and Muslims read Aristotle. But people are allowed to read books and even like them. That said, philosophy itself was not as popular as academics would have you believe. A handful of famous Muslim philosophers can be mentioned but this is not the same thing as saying that their personal opinions on philosophy had any effect on the Theology of Islam which predates the translation of Greek philosophy into Arabic.
Beautiful exposition Filip. I'm happy that you get deeper and deeper into ibn al-'Arabi's school of thought with every video from the Islamic series - you won't exhaust yourself with video ideas when it comes to the writings of him and his students! I definitely feel that you want to convey that the truth of Neoplatonism is the same truth as 'Akbarian' truth, or the 'Eckhartian' truth, etc. It definitely seems to be the case, but, moreso, the conclusion shared by these schools doesn't seem to simply be the logical endpoint of theology, even if it is a satisfying place for reason to rest. The shared epistemology for all the proponents of this understanding is not reason at all - but kashf/direct experience, stressing the graspable reality of these ideas. ibn al-'Arabi himself made sure to put ratiocination in the passenger seat for a reason. I think your line of thinking is correct, and is a view held by the perennialists. Just as God effuses into the myriad of different things, the sweetness of truth comes in many flavors!
Excellent, I loved it…it reminded me so much of my many conversations with my beloved father. Thank you for the great job.
You are passionate in exposing these treasures, i can feel it. Thank you for your work. From a kurdish brother somewhere
Thank you for this most excellent illuminating and enlightening presentation. Young minds can benefit and appreciate such incisive and easily understandable content. I commend your collaboration team and look forward to more informative presentations.
I feel obligated to tell you that the premise is essentially a lie. No Sufi ever mentioned Plotinus and Neoplatonism is a fictitious school invented by modern academics desirous of claiming Platonic influence in a round about, fantastic manner.
The quality of these lectures on neoplatonism has been totally outstanding, you are all brilliant, beautiful minds and souls. This teaching in particular was totally mind blowing and eye opening, I really did not have an idea of how influential neoplatonism has been in history. You guys are doing an incredible public service, bringing these topics to a broad audience in such skillful way. When buddhists say Upaya, I'm damn sure these learning experiences you are creating are what they are talking about.
Heh. There never existed a school of philosophy called Neoplatonism. Worse, the philosophers dubbed Neo Platonist did belong to the same or one school. Still worse the honorary founder, Plotinus, was as much a disciple of Aristotle. Porphyry makes it known that all of the doctrine of Aristotle is in Plotinus. This is not said about Plato.
There can be no such quality lecture on Neoplatonism it's an academic fiction. In reality the so called Neoplatonists were independent of one another. Worse the Muslims didn't know Plotinus and Sufism wasn't influenced by Plato. Neo or otherwise.
Thank you for the understanding 💖 Blessings to you!
i love that you write your sources I have bought many books on Amazon thanks to you
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
Read Dr Kashif Khan's ( Quran researcher) articles on the internet to know the Islam which the Quran brought. Read with an open mind and ask him questions if you don't understand something.
As someone who was converted from atheism by reading Plotinus, and who (after a winding path) ended up following the teachings of a Sufi Guru (Shirdi Sai Baba), this is exactly the topic I have been waiting for without knowing it! Thank you so much for bringing these connections to light.
That's nice. I find Neoplatonism to be the missing link among religions. I mean, "The One" can easily be interpreted as God, Buddha nature, the Dao and so on...
You’re welcome
@@ww2germanhero You're absolutely right, this summed it up well I think by pointing out Avicenna's view that at the highest level there is only one truth. What path you take to get there is up to your personal preference (attitudes, tendencies, upbringing etc.) but ultimately the destination is unchanging.
@@t0xcn253 And the differences in attitudes, tendencies and upbringing are part of the infinite variety of manifestation and expression of God's "hidden treasures".
Shirdi Sai Baba is truly one of the great mystics in history.
I've just started reading Death and the Dervish, so this video came out at just the right moment. There is so much shared imagerie just within the first chapter. Thank you Filip for yet more incredible content.
Who is the author? Interesting fact, Dervish is the Persian equivalent of the Arabic "Faqir" as in a poor person. Some associate it with the "Whirling Dervishes" only. You might enjoy AR-Risalah al-Qushayriah by al-Qushayri as it is one of the oldest available, and in English.
@@yusufg.1281 Thank you so much for the recommendation! I'll have a look. And despite finishing the Death and the Dervish I did not know that about dervishes! The author is Milan Selimovic, it's set in Bosnia under the Ottoman Empire, though it is written in the sixties I believe. It's an incredible novel, and the setting is particularly interesting.
@@-zorkaz-5493 Also Google kitab al futuwah by Al-Sulami, one of the most important authors there is, known as the Book of Chivalry in English. Deliverance from Error by al Ghazali, all available in pdf.
@@-zorkaz-5493It is Mehmed Meša Selimović, not Milan Selimović!
Coming back to this a year later, as I’m writing an essay in my Neoplatonic course ~ which you inspired me greatly to follow. Grateful for your wonderful work,again :)
Hope ull take this positively.. it's pronounced shifaa not sheefaa and 3qlul awwal (with a tashdeed) not awal nafsul kuliyya not kuliyaa. The pronunciation matters as it effects the meaning with the wrong pronunciation All other terms were pronounced very intellectually. Loving this ❤️❤️❤️
"Plato was known for the [same] Oneness and divine wisdom that influenced me."- Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini of Iran
Beautiful work Filip! Please keep doing what you are doing!
Impeccable work and true scholarship. Gratitude 🙏
Thank you so much for this Filip. Truly astounding. For anyone interested, this (44:10) is an image of The Gulf of Saint Lawrence leading into Quebec. It has been reversed.
Amazing video as always, they go too quickly! Will there be a 'Neoplatonism in Christian Thought'?
It definitely was/is extremely influential, so they could make a similarly detailed video on it. I hope they do. But maybe they don't have an expert on that.
Thanks again for the series
Thank you so much Filip! This is amazing stuff!
This should be amazing- keep up the great work! 💚🙏🐢🐍 I find the transmission to Islam of Plotinus and Porphyry via Pseudo-Aristotle's Theology just fascinating.
Unfortunately it's entirely fictional.
That is, the hypothesis which claims Neoplatonic influence on Islam or Sufism. Plotinus was unknown to the Muslim world his one book being attributed to Aristotle allegedly. There is literally no evidence.
If true it was 2 Enneads only. It was seen as the work of Aristotle to the few who cared. Sufism was against philosophers in general and cares nothing for Plotinus. Neoplatonism is fiction.
Thank you Filip for this. Each episode really broadens my understanding on neoplatonism, moreso in its application in Islamic Thought. I wanted to ask whether we see the transfer of these ideas in the African continent, anywhere besides Egypt and the Maghreb. Are there written traditions that you have come across that echo this similar discourse? Or has it mostly centred around the Arabian peninsula?
ibn Arabi and Ibn rushd were andalucian arabs and I think some west african sufi tariqahs like the tidjanis may be heavily inspired by the neoplatonic akbari sufi school or may be neoplatonic themselves I'm not entirely sure about east africa though
Possibly Southern Africa with Ubuntu?
Misykatul Anwar got a shout out 😍😍 It's one of my favorite classical books. It's relatively short but so rich. It resonates to my longing so much that I find myself coming back to it again & again, each time gaining new perspective.
Ive been waiting for this.
If you haven’t already please do a video on the zahiri school of thought
Zahiri is a legal theory, like Maliki, Hanafi, etc. not a theological theory. Theologically, the Zahiri is Sunni.
@@thescholiast5118 doesn't matter. People following it were killed by Shafi'i mamluks.
I promise I'm not being hyperbolic when I say that your lectures on neo-platonism are among the best videos I've seen on this entire website and present some of the most fascinating ideas that I have ever heard in my entire life.
how do you always manage to find the most interesting topics. Mad respect
What is interesting in what he said?
الا بذكر الله تطمئن القلوب
I wish there will be an episode which the topic is the mechanics and the ways to become ONE with the ONE. Inshallah
To know HIM is simple but if not it takes 10 years or more to understand, with the taufik of allah asawajal we can understand this. Inshallah
Actually, I'm admiring your presentation about such a delicate topic, thank you philip for your work....
Excellent Display of the Knowledge and Wisdom!
"I was a hidden treasure and I loved to be known, so I created the world so that I might be know" -Hadith Qudsi that sentence was a very deep beautiful thought
Can you proof the authenticity of this hadith??? We would like to know wether its authentic or fabricated.
The tradition of the Hidden Treasure is the most widely used Hadith in the field of speculative mysticism. It states: "I was a Hidden Treasure; I loved to be known, so I created the creation in order to be known." From the 5th/12th century onward this tradition has occurred in major Sufi texts, and the Sufi masters like Ibn al-Arabi and Rumi have made abundant use of it to build their mystical philosophy. However; This hadith has been identified as fabricated or baseless by many classical scholars. Therefore one must not attribute it to Allah (Most High) or His Messenger (peace be upon him). Rather one should strive to warn people against it. The Hadith, I was a hidden treasure that was unknown. And I loved to be known, so I created the creation. I gave them knowledge of myself, so they came to know me. (The Hadith) is baseless. (Imam Jalal al-Deen al-Sayuti, al-Durar al-Manthoorah). The Hadith, I was a hidden treasure that was unknown. And I loved to be known, so I created the creation. I gave them knowledge of myself, so they came to know me. (The Hadith) is baseless according to the explicit statements of Hufaadh like, Ibn Taymiyah, al-Zarkashi and al-Sakhaawi. (Imam Ali bin Sultan al-Qari, al-Mowdo’aat al-Sughraa). It is important to recognise that the onus is upon people narrating Hadith to reference them correctly. If they do not do so, then it should be requested of them. A failure to adhere to such practices has resulted in many dubious Hadith narrations spreading in the community. It is prohibited to attribute a fabricated or baseless Hadith to Allah (Most High) or His Messenger ﷺ. It is only permitted to mention such narrations to warn people about them. It must not be promoted or propagated.
Please shed some light on the concept of "Haqeeqat Muhammadia" as told by Ibn e Arabi... thanks
Let it be known to all: Through the Holy Spirit, God has put it on me to preach to those lost in the devil's deceit! I tell ye, truly, Jesus of Nazareth is the propitiation for the whole world's sins. He is the anointed one, for he is, Jesus Christ. God the Father has raised him from the dead; who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God! Angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life: no one comes to the Father, but by him. They who believe and are baptized with the Holy Spirit shall be saved; but they who believe not shall be damned. For they who believe not on him, shall die in their sins! I tell ye now to repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and you'll receive the gift of the Holy Spirit upon asking the Father! There are *NO* sub-divisions of Christianity. You're either a disciple of Christ or not. A Christian is someone who follows God's word, not a religion. Who obey the Father and follow his will; not man's nor their own heart's. Unless you keep Jesus' commandments, think not the Holy Spirit will dwell within you! They who heed this message and did what was stated with an open heart to God... Read the Holy Bible (KJV) daily and every time before you read, pray to the Father and ask: "Lord I ask that you give me understanding of your word, that I interpret it the way you want me to, and none of my own. I ask you in Jesus' name, amen." 1 John 2:2 KJV 2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. Acts 13:26-33 KJV 26 Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, *and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.* 27 *For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.* 28 And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain. 29 *And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.* 30 *But God raised him from the dead:* 31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people. 32 *And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,* 33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. 1 Peter 3:22 KJV 22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him. John 14:6 KJV 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Mark 16:16 KJV 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. John 8:24 KJV 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. Acts 2:38 KJV 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Luke 11:13 KJV 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? John 14:21-24 KJV 21 *He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.* 22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, *If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.* 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and *the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.*
@@Call_Upon_YAH Bullshit.
Brother freed this man has a little bit grasp on rational aspects and I praise him for that but he isn't the one you should be concerning to if it comes to IBN Al Arabi and especially on fasus ul hikma I would recommend you to find someone who has grasp on farsi teaching and who himself is Sufi..
Hi there! I've just watched your collab with Genetically Modified Skeptic, it was super cool seeing you on Drew's channel and I'll definitely binge watch yours.
This is an amazing episode. Thank you very much!
I thank you for your intellectual and beautiful videos on comparative religion. During these end times, the only hope and comfort for the individual is spiritual intellectualism. The universal concepts of religious and spiritual thought leads the soul to the path of the One. Thank you for all your work. Namaste, amen and salutations in every language possible.
Hey Filip, hope you have a great day❤. I wanted to point out that the Qudsi hadith " I was a hidden treasure; I loved to be known. Hence I created the world so that I would be known" is a weak hadith or fabricated according to many Muslim scholars. I would appreciate if you said the degree of authenticity of Hadiths.
That is completely irrelevant to the discussion. Hope you have an equally great day!
@@LetsTalkReligion I'd do you two one better: May you two have a much better day than I ever had.
I love your channel! Your videos are insightful and done in a way that connects different beliefs, rather than divides them.
I suggest you love yourself more and seek salvation. Truth is one way and all what he said is the other way.
These concepts and understandings are very easy to understand. It's very clearly seen in everything around you, and you can experience this all within yourself.
As a 'Wahabi' i approved your opinions,talks and explaination all through out of this video.. i salute & respect your great works and knowledge! May Allah preserve and guide you on straight path on this world and hereafter!
Wahhabism is cancer lol
I never thought I'd come across someone who'd call himself a wahabi lol , prophet Muhammad peace be upon his said 73 of my ummah will be in the fire except 1 and it's those who are on my sunnah
@@themerchant2579 you're right brother..! Btw i'm used to it..(the calling) ;)
@@mohammadazzawi2738 'cancer' because we reject 'platonism' in Islam.. ?
@@wanselamat1971 Islam in general is a cancer on humanity, it’s an outdated and barbaric cult. However, I still have some respect for Sufi philosophers, because they try their best to fit their flawed religion with perennial truth. The same can’t be said for fundamentalist literalists like Wahhabis who delude themselves by taking the worst aspects of Islam with no regard for actual truth.
*Prophet Mohammad, then 4 Caliphs, and then all Companions of Prophet left behind ONLY one written Book, and that is Quran. They never certified as SAHIH any extra-Quranic report of Hadith, Hadith Qudsi, Sunnah, Seera, Fiqh and Tafsir. So logically, rationally and legally we cannot classify even one extra-Quranic report as SAHIH*
It was literally the companions رضي الله عنهم that narrated the ahadith.
@@user-858 Prophet, and all Sahaaba left behind no any manuscript of any Hadith. So, there is no any Proof that if they narrated any hadith. Fact is: after the death of Prophet, after the death of four Caliphs, and after the death of all Companions; Sunni and Shia heretical Imams started to quote stories in the names of Sahaaba *but no any Sahaabi was living at that time to confirm that if he has told that story or not. Six Books of Sunni Sect and 4 of Shia sects were FORGED by Defeated Persians of Zoroastrian Ancestry 250-400 years after the death of Prophet, and that time is a bigggggggg gap* Because Rasool, 4 Caliphs, and all Companions of Prophet *IN PERSON* certified no any Hadith (written in Hadith Books) as Sahih; so, morally, logically and legally, we cannot classify any Hadith as Sahih. For example, we read in Book "Sahih-Muslim" that A heard from B and B heard from C and C Heard from D that Prophet said: all Black Dogs are Devil. First of all, it is matter of commonsense to reason that Prophet could never tell this kind of Moronic Joke that Black Dogs are Devils only because their color is black. Besides; how will you know that if A, B, C, and D really told this story, or someone forged this story (as it appears), and he fabricated Chain/Isnad, and then he attached that moronic comic story to the names of A, B, C, D? Other Example: Gama heard from Jama who heard from Talha who heard from Aisha who heard from Abu Bakar who heard from Prophet that *Rats are a Tribe of Jews* (this joke is given in Books of Bukhari and Muslim). Now, how will you confirm if this story was really told by Talha, Aisha, Abu Bakar and Prophet because when this story was fabricated, at that time, Talha, Aisha, Abu Bakar and Prophet were not alive. *They were not there to confirm the Authenticity of that story.* Fact is: when a Hadither-Forger can Forge Matan (text) of Hadith; same Forger can also Forge Chain/Isnad of Narrations; *and same was said by German Muslim Scholar Dr. Murad Wilfried Hofmann.* *Besides; we read in almost all Well known Books of Sunni sects as follow:* 1- Prophet forbade to write his hadiths. *So what Hadiths?* 2- Caliph Abu Bakar forbade Hadiths. He said: "La Tuhadithu" *So what Hadiths?* 3- Caliph Umar *burned and banned all Hadiths* and equated Hadiths to Jewish Talmud/Mishnah. *So what Hadiths?* 4- Caliph Umar wrote letters to all city Governors to erase all Hadiths. *So what Hadiths?* 5- *Caliph Umar placed three Companions of Prophet under house arrest FOR LIFE due to their Hadith-Mongering.* ----- *So what Hadiths?* 6- Caliph Umar refused to write SUNNAH of Prophet. *So what Sunnah and what Hadiths?* 7- Caliph Ali told Muslims in one sermon: erase all Hadiths because nations before you were gone astray because they stuck to hadith books of their Scholars, and abandoned Book of Allah. *So what Hadiths?* 8- Caliph Ameer Mu'Awia told people: Do not narrate hadiths. *So what Hadiths? Where did you bring these all millions of Fabricated Hadiths from? Where from?* *_We never post any thing without Reference. You can read all References as Scanned pages from Original Ancient Arabic Books in our page "True History of Hadiths and Sunnah"_*
@@abdar-rahman6965 Allah سبحانه وتعالى mentions several times in the Qur'an to obey the Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم, his Sunnah which we derive from the authentic classified narrations. "He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allaah . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:80] “O you who believe! Obey Allaah and obey the Messenger . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:59] “. . . And let those who oppose the Messenger’s commandment beware, lest some fitnah (trial, affliction, etc.) befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them.” [al-Nur 24:63] And many more verses that clearly indicate us to follow the Sunnah of the Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم. The authenticity of narrations are carefully examined by the scholars who dedicated their entire lives to this science. There are many guidelines to it, in accordance to the shari'ah. I highly suggest you to follow Allahs order to obey the Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم and study the science of the ahadith and all the conditions to their classifications instead of spreading your misguidance in the comments.
@@user-858 Seems: You Fanatic is a Jaahil of Superlative Degree, who does not have brain in his head, and who is posting 1200 years old READY-MADE Rants of Sunni and Shia Sects. You are posting your READY-MADE Rants even without reading my previous Comments. This is the way which Sunni and Shia Mullahs have been teaching you Jaahil Fanatics from 1200 years. *O Ibn Abu Jaahil:* Tell me how will you obey Rasool? There is only one way to obey Rasool and that way is: to obey that BOOK which he left behind for us, and name of that Book is not Talmud, Vida, Puranas, Bukhari or Al-Kafi but name of that Book is Quran only.5:44-48, 12:106, 42:10, 6:114, 6:19, 10:15, 39:13, 50:45, 16:116, 10:59-60, 7:32, 7:2-3, 11:18, 66:1, 28:56, 72:21, 2:272, 3:80, 18:110, 29:18, 5:92, 5:99, 42:48, 3:20, 2:213, 16:64, 24:54, 36:17, 13:40, 16:35, 16:82, 64:12, 12:111, 16:89, 17:12, 25:30, 25:33, 29:51, 45:6, 46:9, 28:85, 42:15, 2:159, 7:157, 47:2. O Ibn Abu Lahb: Learn that: Rasool and all Sahaaba left behind NO ANY extra-Quranic manuscript *Quran makes very clear in following verses that Sole Task given to Mohammad by God was NO MORE THAN to deliver Quran clearly. This is why: Mohammad left behind Only Quran. Following verses make Clear that Mohammad was mere AN AGENCY of God. So meaning of OBEY ALLAH AND RASOOL is to follow only Quran which he only left behind.* 39:41, 6:107, 29:18, 5:92, 5:99, 3:20, 24:54, 42:6, 42:48, 64:12, 16:64, 2:213, 39:41, 18:110, 28:56, 72:21, 2:272, 27:92, 50:45. 12:111, 16:89, 17:12, 6:114, 10:15, 6:19, 13:40, 3:80, 75:19
@@user-858 Before posting your Nonsense, read my previous comments, and do not waste time. I have answered all your nonsensical Rants in my previous Comments. Do not post your rants without reading my comments fully
Thank you, you go into a depth and thoroughness that other channels just don't.
Where is the depth in this? Sorry, but this is only a delusion from the truth. All what he said was a lie upon a lie upon another lie. ....
@@user-em9cr8pr5q Well, neoplatonism itself is certainly false, but it can be useful to learn about the false ideas other people believe in order to better preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to them.
@@user-em9cr8pr5q Well, neoplatonism itself is certainly false, but it can be useful to learn about the false ideas other people believe in order to better preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to them.
Thank you for making this video, very inspiring stuff
Islam is the survival of neo-platonic wisdom & genuine mysticism , this is what attracted me to Islam . Christianity unfortunately became a social club while Judaism has lost it's neo-platonic tradition long time ago now it's a poisonous political club even though some few Jews tried to revive it's wisdom like Rabbi Zalman Schachter Shalomi but with no to little success , the future is certainly for Islam to lead the world's spiritual quest .
I agree to a certain degree with you but unfortunately most of today's Islam or better to say today's "Ulama" lost its very core I mean the spiritual/ mystical/gnostic dimension it became almost like an empty egg shell with very little contents inside. Besides that Islamic mysticism is not only similar with Neoplatonism but also with Gnostic Christianity and Zoroastrianism in certain aspects although we must admit that all off despite the differences have many things in common.
You are not wrong.
☮️ Peace to all, there is no Islamic Mysticism, Sufism is not Islamic Mysticism, Sufism is Islam itself ❤️☮️
Sufism is not Islam. It is an innovation and rejected by God.
Brilliant work as always!
Great work brother. May Allah bless you with good health and ever increasing success!
*Teaching of Last Book of God "Quran" and original-genuine teaching of Socrates should not contradict because Socrates was a Rasool/Man of God, and Plato was student of Socrates and Aristotle was student of Plato. --- 2500 years ago, God sent his three men to guide people, Buddha to Indians, Confucius to Chinese, and Socrates to west. Quran tells: God sent his Rasools to all nations 40:78, **16:36*
According to Islam, Mary can have a Son without a man touching her. But inorder for Allah to have a Son , he needs a wife.
What? Can you explain it more?
@@experience741 Quran 6 - 101.. Allah says He can't have a Son without Mate .. But Muslims defends the above verse by saying Allah does not need any wife. Muslims are deciding themselves what Allah should need or not need. .😁😁
@johnson Allah is not a Woman to give birth to a baby, that's first. Second Allah isn't Male or Female, and the word Son in the Semitic Bible was used as a way of endearment not biological
@@med8895 Your Allah himself is telling that he cannot have a Son without Wife...😁😁
@@med8895 well if your God is omnipotent then the surah doesn't need to exist at all. Because it's indicate that Allah in order to has child need mate and not because his own power. I mean omnipotent being could use just his word to create child. "Let there be child"
Thank you for this, well broken down for a layman like me, impressed by your arabic pronunciations, there is the universal truth of one God you see being expressed differently in different eras and in different civilisations and how to connect to Him, enjoyed your presentation on the topic
*There is no any thing such as Noor-Mohammadiya. This kind of Shirk is followed by Corrupted Jaahil Mushrik Sufis. Quran makes very clear that Mohammad was Prophet of God, and he was a mortal man like all other mortal men 18:110, and his Sole Duty was to deliver Quran and go back **29:18**, 5:99, **3:20**, **42:48**. No any so called Noor-Mohammadiya. Prophet Mohammad was mere an Agency of God = Divine Postman. This is why, as soon as revelations of Quran were completed; within a short period he died. This is why, he left behind NO ANY MANUSCRIPT except written Quran*
Neoplatonism borrowed from eastern philosophies of finding inner peace from within. this is in contrast to the western philosophy which seeks change from outside (thus the rise of empiricism and science in the western world). Neoplatonism had huge impact on sufism. it created the mystic and ascetic look of sufism which didn’t make a great impact on the world because it’s esoteric and unfalsifiable. Anyway, all the ideas that came from neoplatonism and all its followers are just mere speculations vs the Aristotelian tradition which was empirical and falsifiable. so Neoplatonism lost the race to Aristotelianism. One more point worth mentioning that neoplatonism and its followers in the islamic followers were considered heretics because they spoke speculatively without evidence about God which was a red line in Islam. Aristotelian tradition on the other hand triumphed because it sought answers about the creations not the creator. the creations can be examined but the creator can’t. Period.
Literally who asked
@@monkeymoment6478 i asked
@@monkeymoment6478 bruh don’t kill the mood like that
The fact that you begin your argument with a crap like ''western thought has/had poor capacity for esoteric/spiritual stuff" is uncalled for at its best and incorrect at worst. The implicit assumption of oriental monopoly in spiritual matters is the first thing you have to look into with more rational humility.
Aristotelian tradition is an innovation too. You literally have ash'aris talking about Allah with zero knowledge by denying His attributes.
I am learning so much from watching your episodes … thank you 🙏🏻
ONE OF THE BEST ONES SO FAR!!!!!
Thanks for the lecture , brilliantly explained .
This is great! Stuff that I didn't know that I wanted to know. Thanks!
Be it known: Through the Holy Spirit, God has put it on me to preach to those lost in the devil's deceit! I tell ye, truly, Jesus of Nazareth is the propitiation for the whole world's sins. He is the anointed one, for he is, Jesus Christ. God the Father has raised him from the dead; who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God! Angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life: no one comes to the Father, but by him. They who believe and are baptized with the Holy Spirit shall be saved; but they who believe not shall be damned. For they who believe not on him, shall die in their sins! I tell ye now to repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and you'll receive the gift of the Holy Spirit upon asking the Father! There are *NO* sub-divisions of Christianity. You're either a disciple of Christ or not. A Christian is someone who follows God's word, not a religion. Who obey the Father and follow his will; not man's nor their own heart's. Unless you keep Jesus' commandments, think not the Holy Spirit will dwell within you! They who heed this message and did what was stated with an open heart to God... Read the Holy Bible (KJV) daily and every time before you read, pray to the Father and ask: "Lord I ask that you give me understanding of your word, that I interpret it the way you want me to, and none of my own. I ask you in Jesus' name, amen." 1 John 2:2 KJV 2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. Acts 13:26-33 KJV 26 Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, *and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.* 27 *For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.* 28 And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain. 29 *And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.* 30 *But God raised him from the dead:* 31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people. 32 *And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,* 33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. 1 Peter 3:22 KJV 22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him. John 14:6 KJV 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Mark 16:16 KJV 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. John 8:24 KJV 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. Acts 2:38 KJV 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Luke 11:13 KJV 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? John 14:21-24 KJV 21 *He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.* 22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, *If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.* 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and *the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.*
Thanks 🙏👍 alot for the insight, excellent content. I really love the recommended read 📚📚. Stay blessed.
Angela's Symposium referred your content. I'm looking forward to hearing your work.
beautiful presentation, I had no idea that Sufism was this awesome!
You are great, you are legendary. You have much knowledge. Thank you great one.
Yet another land mark of information by our friend Mr. Flip H. With love ❤️ a Indian sufi student.
Absolutely superb, Filip.
This video and the previous one have been a revelation to me. Even though I've done a fair amount of reading and taken courses in philosophy, the idea that neo-platonism is so fundamental to western culture never became clear to me until now. I'm beginning to understand why the west became hierarchical, with top-down, authoritarian thinking informing everything about the culture. No wonder grass-roots, bottom-up ideas are so hard to put across. Obviously it's more complicated than that, but you've given me a great deal to think about. Thanks.
Amazing video. Especially the part about the entification of God was truly mind-blowing.
Thank you so much. It was very informative.
This is next level of knowledge ❤ thx
Amazing work. Thank you
Amazing work!
I feel so lucky to be given this first rate education for absolutely free. Thank you so much!
First rate? Didn't you notice that there is no evidence to support the claim that Islam or Sufism ever concerned itself with a school of philosophy invented by modern academics? Of course not. But this is the truth. Neoplatonism never existed. Islam never cared about Plotinus and owes nothing to Greek philosophy, which is something outside the scope of religion.
You would be fortunate to be one of the people who actually asks for proof. I had a nice little debate with the maker who believed that Plotinus was known to the Muslim world. He was under the impression that Plotinus was called the Greek Sheik. This is false. Shahrastani referred to Aristotle by this title and Aristotle was known by many as the Greek Sheik. I had to educate him regarding this matter.
Further, he believed that Plotinus was known in the Muslim world but I informed him that, according to the available literature, Plotinus was just a name written on a scrap of paper mentioned by An-Nadim. The rest of the so called neoplatonists are of no consequence. Unable to defend what he claimed the video maker had not since replied. I would reassess that thought if I were you. A first class education does not deal with make believe schools of philosophy and the desires of European academics to attribute everything to the heathen Hellenes.
excellent! excellent! excellent video!!!! another one well done!!! 100%
you're on a roll, dude
Best teacher and very interestingly suggest multiple essences and understanding of the ultimate reality different Islamic sufistic traditions in lslam. I enjoyed to hear about diverse school of thoughts.❤🎉
amazing work
An excellent presentation in the right direction
Very well presented - thanks
You are a gifted presenter and excellent source of knowledge. I do wish you’d link your Patreon in every video description, as I am inclined to support you but now have to do some googling
Ask him why he doesn't have any evidence from actual Sufi or Muslim authors. Ask him to prove that the Muslims knew who Plotinus was. I did. He failed.
That's not being gifted it's simply repeating ideas that are theoretical which he obviously did not research personally, had he, he'd know that there is no interest in Neoplatonism in Sufism or Islam. He could quote from a Muslim author if one knew who he was. I understand the desire to be positive but what about the truth?
The truth is that beyond the claims that Sufism and Neoplatonism had something to do with each other there's an absence of evidence. The truth is that they are lying.
Thank you for the information
Really well presented. Thanks.
Great video. Thank you!