Religion in Pre-Islamic Arabia
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Sources/Suggested Reading:
al-Jallad, Ahmad (forthcoming) "The Religion and Rituals of the Nomads of Pre-Islamic Arabia: A reconstruction based on the Safaitic Inscriptions". Pre-Print Darft (Version 2: April 3, 2021).
al-Jallad, Ahmad (2019). "The 'One' God in a Safaitic Inscription". Draft. The Ohio State University.
al-Jallad, Ahmad (2020). "The pre-Islamic basmala: reflections on its first epigraphic attestation and its original significance". Draft. The Ohio State University.
Bowersock, G.W. (2017) "The Crucible of Islam". Harvard University Press.
Hoyland, Robert G. (2001). "Arabia and the Arabs: From the Bronze Age to the Coming of Islam". Routledge.
Also check out these two great resources for ancient Arabic inscriptions:
DASI: dasi.cnr.it/
Ociana: krcfm.orient.ox.ac.uk/fmi/webd...
#Arabia #Religion #Paganism
A quick browse of the comments section on this video is so wonderful. People talking about religion and history in respectful manners, anecdotes from Muslims and Arabs, people comparing and contrasting beliefs and histories. Really swell stuff, this is not the internet I knew 10 years ago and I'm so glad it's not.
That might be due to censorship and the suppression of free speech. That is not a good thing. A faith should strengthen one and criticism should not be a problem. Any religion that cannot be mocked or criticised, such as the barbaric practice of Islam, is a very dangerous thing.
You're glad that people don't clearly address issues. You can certainly talk about cancer without mentioning how horrible it is, but not so much in a world in which many people are pro-cancer.
@@pizzaboy3946 but you were able to say your opinion without anyone deleteing it
@@glorioustea7433 Not yet but give it time, just like the other comments about Islam that are pulled down for fear fear of suffering the same fate as the Chalie Hebdo staff. I also couldn't stand in Speaker's Corner and say that, as with the case of Hatun Tash who was stabbed there in an attempted murder and which was not reported by the mass media. I can give hundreds of more examples if that isn't barbaric or suppressing of free speech enough. Keep your religion and serve your god but, if there is a God which is pure love, it will not serve you.
@@pizzaboy3946 well say whatever you want but don't expect to get hugs and flowers :/
hello from Saudi Arabia, thank you for the video there is much more that isn't mentioned in the video for that each tribe had its own Pagan god for example Daws (from Zahran) had "Dhu Al-Khilsah" , and here in Southern Najd we had "Dhu Kahl" , Siwa' (سواع) for Hudh'ail and much more ... all said tribes still exist today in Saudi Arabia
I know i have been told it is crazy to believe that im actually a descendant of the Bani Hilal because its just a name from folk lore. What does that mean to these people? Nothing. It is special to nobody as it is just history and not the present. So see there is a lesson for everyone. Its more important to live as what we are as mortal human beings lucky to be alive. Call me whatever you want. Im not some tribal. Im not descended from royalty off oil money either. I dont believe in religion personally since we wrote it based on facts and most people mosunderstand it and make it ritualism. Islam is translated as spirit science for a reason. Not spirit tradition. Not spiritual monopoly yet an umbrella unitarianism with fairness and human precedent over slavery in any dimension. interesting enough my tribe was also hillel the elders you could say based on BS claims to past grandeurs as high mufti or pharisees or whatever. These names dont stick or else i would be glowing. You have to put work in to the golden rule like the gentleman who made this video. Thats what ascends the spirit and enlightens aside from being married and getting older, but what do i know? Im jist some guy. I love stories about mythology as well as have a personal philosophy from an out of body experience having my lights knocked out at 25. I think there is a grain of truth to everything. Some things science is on the verge of grasping again. Like the chi. Or telepathy. Where is the consciousness stored? They see the lightning bolts but never photograph consciousness zeus it seems when they study the brain. To me the tribals followed cult leaders through the desert and villages who mastered the art of yoga to the point of what would still be considered paranormal phenomena today. Call it the Tao or prayer or whatever. They knew how to use more of their brain than the rest of us. Even today with computers and science. We are historians and orators simply put in the end witness to these things. Physics will discover overlaying dimensions for practical uses oneday ...when its common knowledge for a critical mass. I dont think thats the point of earth tho so it may never happen. Earth is a distraction from the fact we dont die. Physics will never break an illusion we need as a rest from this torment of eternal boredom. A life without death can be a cross to bear if your alone. I personally believe in a third butterfly phase of man everyone has.your real body is a small star. Then you have an etheric body you feel at the same time while riding in it like phantom limb syndrome but it is invisible to you. The star is in your chest in your "solar plexus" when you look down that is all you see. That and earth below. Then two caring out of body angels come and meet u. One male and one female and you talk about why your up there and they care about u and ask what you did to help people. They are wise and will not let you lie to yourself. They look like stars to you too but they are telepathic like you while oscillating like the star sirius. Human consciousness does not die and there are no pearl gates. Just literal space and earth and overlaying dimensions while we are in different forms. We can also come back and reincarnate. The temporary memory wipe is great as it helps us forget immortality like getting drunk. Everything is possible to the kingdom of heaven. Perhaps the challenge of remaining spirits of love while riding in animal bodies os a true test of who we are and our ideals over our animal nature in the end. Or it could be the friction feeds the star body energy when used with the golden rule towards all life through these computers we call monkey minds or lizard brains. Life is a vibration 3. 1, -1 and zero. 3 points in a vibratio. Right now while in body im a real zero knowing this and not making the world better
@mr kaos I should be able to find it. I will get back.
@@someone-wi4xl Do people from different tribes follow their gods today? Or just Islamic deity Allah is followed? I know Saudi Arabia is a very conservative country and worshipping other than Allah attracts state sanctioned punishment. So do people do still do it secretly? Or Atheism? Does it exist there?
@@warpdrive9229 no, today we Arabians are only 1) Muslims (majority) 2) Christian , such as members of Banu Al-Harith in Najran, from whom the 6th century martyr ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arethas_(martyr) ) killed by Himyari Jewish king, today his death is remembered in different Christian nation also some Arabs in Gulf region , some of said above still Christians today but most of them are Muslim a small group of Bani Al-Harith moved to Levant and kept being Christians , their mention ended as a tribal group but their descendants might be alive and well but mixed with locals over there as well as Rabi'ah bin Wa'il prior to Islam it was 50/50 some are Pagan some were Christians , also here in Najd there was good number of Christian Arabs who in fact supported Muhammad against Pagans of Makkah 3) also some Arabs are Jewish such as some Himyar and Hamdan members and part of my tribe (allies of us) were also Jewish but no more today , most became Muslims some continued on and became the Yemeni Jews + actual Cohanim Israelites (mix of Arabians and Bani Israel) Paganism ended long time ago BUT there were stories in 1700's that one of the kings of the first Saudi state found a group of women offering for Dhu Al-Khilsah but documentation of this story is weak in my humble opinion and might serve as a propaganda as for Atheism maybe yes there is a small minority but since we are a tribal society i assume they won't declare that because going against the group = kick out from the tribe and never join it back / married from it or any other Tribal Arabians but in general i believe it has to be a very small minority for that we Arabians are very religious peoples regardless of faith we are very faithful
@@warpdrive9229 oh and one more point Allah ( الله ) , Eloah ( אֱלוֹהַּ ) , Allaha ( ܐܰܠܳܗܳܐ ) and so on ... regardless of Semitic language was worshipped way before the time of Prophet Muhammad PBUH in fact his father's name was Abd-Allah (servant of Allah) the thing is that we Knew that he was the supreme God but we were polytheistic we said he must have a wife , children and so on so forth and built them from clay / stone and wood by our hands which was abolished especially after Islam even our ancestors .. those Amorites and Canaanites and other ancient Semites they knew that there is a supreme God ('EL \ illu) but they made the same issue
Apart from this video being extremely well made and researched with such interesting facts and historical evidence, can we appreciate his pronunciation of the Arabic words ??? Very good job for a non-Arabic speaker 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
He did a Master's Degree in West African Sufism, so perhaps he does know a little Arabic?
This is an old comment an an even older video, but I would like to say in case anyone is wondering that his pronunciation is spectacular, except for the fact that he pronounces the "L" in "al-" in front of some letters where it is supposed to be silent, such as "R". Other than that it is superb.
I'm from Saudi Arabia and your description of the pre-Islamic religions was inaccurate. We believed in Allah the creator of everything, but we thought that he didn't care about humans ( he was not merciful) and we believed that he had daughters (The Angels) and fathers, (usually), will listen to their daughters, so the spirits of these angels (the daughters of God) will enter the stone statues, and if we give our sacrifices to these idols statues they, (the daughters of God), will intercede on our behalf to God.
@@MrHoot-zp7ud That's fascinating! I've done some research that showed that many of the pre-Islamic tribes had household stones that they would pay respect to on entering & always wondered what the mythology was behind it. Your explanation makes sense.
@@MrHoot-zp7ud just because you are from Saudi Arabia doesn't mean you own or can use that to tell others you are wrong. That is a matter of belief you hold, not entirely factual.
Thank you. I wish more people across the world would study history and culture. We could understand each other a lot better and a lot faster.
if more people will do then they will immediately leave islam once and for all.
@@vikrraal just opposite will happen
@@vikrraal then obviously indians introduce them selves 😂
@@anamfatima2660 I actually did that and left islam. Go figure
@@dizzie3281 then u never understood
I also love the calm *flow* of the narrator's speech. No hesitancies. Clear enunciation and continuous unfolding of the narrative. And so *informative !* Kudos!
2:44 right as I read this comment lol
Calm, and showing no sign of fear of murder. That is well.
Not a single pause. Beautifully orated. A true scholar of the internet age.
Teleprompter
When talking about Paganism we should remember that Pagan is derived from the Latin "Pagana" or " country dweller" meaning that rural people were more likely to hang onto the old religion. Originally there were no negative connotations to the word but sadly that certainly has changed over the years.
because of the fact that pagans in middle east were and are (many people practice it in the desert) scary
i still dont really understand what paganism is. does it just refer to any polytheistic religion?
@@pb7199 yes but most of us use the term ''pagan'' when we talk about traditional polytheist religions. Hinduism, buddhism and sikhism is usually excluded from those terms
@@pb7199 try understanding Hinduism or sanatan Dharma, this is the oldest religion / dharma there is.
@@theren2486 No, people of Islam and missionaries still use 'false god worshipper' a genocidal term for Hindus as they did to pegans
I love how history used to be written in the old times. I would like to imagine a nerd of a man, unmarried, regarded by the society as a freak compulsively tagging along with roman soldiers in arabia, wandering out at night, writing his account of the world he sees so that he could write a book and keep it in his library when he returns 2 decades later to his land. These are the guys we should be grateful about.
Your description sounds so cute haha 😭😭😂
can someone explain to me what this comment means? I don't really get it.
@@Ziad3195 History was written by solo weirdo travvelers in ancient times
@@edoardoturco8780 I see
@@Ziad3195 that ancient scribes were nerds among soldiers, knights, and royals
Have watched a number of your videos over the past week or so, and have to admit: You find and include the most evocative, beautiful art in the essays. This is no small feat .... Thanks for your work. There's not enough intellectual inquiry these days.
I'm from Saudi Arabia and your description of the pre-Islamic religions was inaccurate. We believed in Allah the creator of everything, but we thought that he didn't care about humans ( he was not merciful) and we believed that he had daughters (The Angels) and fathers, (usually), will listen to their daughters, so the spirits of these angels (the daughters of God) will enter the stone statues, and if we give our sacrifices to these idols statues they, (the daughters of God), will intercede on our behalf to God.
I actually never stopped to think about what religion would have been like in Arabia before Islam Incredibly fascinating
Considering it is the youngest of the major monotheistic religions created in the 7th century AD, it would be strange to not even ponder what existed prior.
@Maurits we don’t. Evidence of burying the dead is one of the primary criteria for that sans literacy.
I think it's Sanatan Dharm (Hinduism). Because there's still a belief that Khana is none other than the Lord. Shiva linga.
Fungus bread covered by sweets and Cream. That is the newest Arabian religion. One allah One prophet and heaven and hell concept.
@@Rammathodi Oo!
Can't wait for this. I do suggest the work of Pre and Early Islamic Arabic philologist Ahmed Al-Jallad, he has some fascinating insights into the Pre Islamic belief system based on the numerous rock etchings and writings found across Arabia.
How surprised were you when you finally saw the video and noticed it was basically completely based on his works?
Expected nothing less from this guy and his diligent research.
;)
As salamu alaykum bro. Are there are any historical evidence for sabians?
@@LetsTalkReligion awesome work as usual. Have always wanted to see Ahmed Al-Jallad work discussed and brought forth. Keep up the good work
Ad a historian I find it extremely important and interesting to know the polytheistic background of the various modern monotheistic religions. It goes a long way to explain each one and all at the same time. It does not weaken one’s personal religion, but instead strengthens it.
How so?
I’m only a few minutes in and I’d like to applaud you on how you explain things! You’re not afraid to say what you want to say, but you also make sure to remain respectful. Well done!
Can’t believe I just discovered this channel. And on a fascinating topic as this at that.
Better late than never :)
Same here!
Indeed very interesting, giving a more neuanced view into the culture where Islam could appear. (As opposed to what I believed before, that Muhammed got the inspiration more directly from the jewish faith in the midst of a religeous pantheon)
@@grimfpv292 it was part of this of course
@@LetsTalkReligion why dont you have a conversation or a podcast with some of the scolars here on YT. Might help you and us see different points of view. The one I do know is Muhammad Hijab
Arabia was very complex.. i just wonder how many secrets and remantnts of old religion and structures are in the sands of Arabia..
No, there are only some page robbed in old schools, the same of christians, hebrews and other fake religion, that don't study, don't understand becouse don't do homeworks! kzhead.info/sun/hsyah8mErXigqqM/bejne.html
@@intrue5021 all religions are 'fake' if you mean 'created by men'. you are worshipping myths and ghosts.
@@ericvulgate : You don't know any religion... men can't understand also they're stupidity... Don't try to talk about what you don't know, it's ignorance: kzhead.info/sun/dplmZKusj4OsdX0/bejne.html
@@ericvulgate excellent deducting Watson now what's your proof
@@ericvulgate Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool
I love that he put citations in the description box which I personally experienced to be so rare! It makes thing easier for people to refer which allow better discussion, since it’s backed up
I can't emphasize enough how much this video means to me. I am not a person who says this often, but my understanding about Islam changed significantly after watching this over and over. I'm not sure whether Philip would see this comment of mine or not, but I want to say THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart. Also, if you're seeing it, do a part two of this😅
Al-Lat is close to Athene/Minerva, not Aphrodite. She is actually somewhere represented as Minerva in syncretistic images. Thank you for the episode.
Al lat is the greek godess Hecate. The same manat, astarte, Lilith, ishtar, isis
@@angelaschone2847 who is allah then?
@@yurichtube1162 allah is Hubal. Hu-baal, baal. Baal means lord. There are many baals like baal Shem baal among. They say allah= god, Hu= god's name, akbar = bigger/greater. It means god Hu is greater than the god of Israel.
@Wasteman Grealis lol i told a christian this stuff and what? Read about that i didn't invent anything
@@angelaschone2847 lol it's a suffix, try looking up how Arabic grammar works before spouting inane conjecture.
The amount of quality work here is just refreshing. Thank God that I stumbled upon such a respectful, historical and a lot of helpful channel about religion in general. I really, really appreciate the way you talk, it is so hard to not pay attention to you talking. Also, I can't stress enough how much I appreciate that you are not one of those "I can't pronounce this" or "I will probably butcher this if I say it" type of lazy people. You actually took time to learn couple of words/sentences and continue to pronounce them with such confidence is again, very refreshing and appreciated. Subscribed and would recommend this channel to everyone. Thank you sir, my brain is thankful for you sharing your knowledge.
Everything he is saying is a lie.
I agree, a lot of anglophone content creators particularly have this lazy « I can’t speak foreign » attitude that I can’t stand.
@@dragonstar4770 Calls something that you don’t believe in despite of substantial evidence & research cuz personal belief. Refuses to elaborate. Leave.
I love it when content creators make the effort to learn to pronounce things correctly, it elevates them to a whole different level and I have so much more respect for them. There's another channel I watch, which is more of the "fun" side of history, called Tasting History with Max Miller, and even though it's much more lighthearted but he puts serious effort into each episode and he nails all the pronunciations.
I'm from Saudi Arabia and your description of the pre-Islamic religions was inaccurate. We believed in Allah the creator of everything, but we thought that he didn't care about humans ( he was not merciful) and we believed that he had daughters (The Angels) and fathers, (usually), will listen to their daughters, so the spirits of these angels (the daughters of God) will enter the stone statues, and if we give our sacrifices to these idols statues they, (the daughters of God), will intercede on our behalf to God.
I’m so glad I found this channel! I enjoy learning about religions in general, it has always fascinated me how people follow different paths and the various world views and beliefs different communities hold so its so refreshing to find it just from a knowledge point of view and not from a biased (either side of the spectrum) viewpoint.
I'm from Saudi Arabia and your description of the pre-Islamic religions was inaccurate. We believed in Allah the creator of everything, but we thought that he didn't care about humans ( he was not merciful) and we believed that he had daughters (The Angels) and fathers, (usually), will listen to their daughters, so the spirits of these angels (the daughters of God) will enter the stone statues, and if we give our sacrifices to these idols statues they, (the daughters of God), will intercede on our behalf to God.
Thanks for this beautiful video 😊 I like your chill presentation style and the obvious effort you’ve put into providing the facts. Also your choice of art is sooooo lovely! Keep up the good work!
I was just researching about this topic like 3 weeks ago, excited
The algorithm worked for you!
@@MrElvis1971 😂😂😂
omg thank you king, I've been waiting for this for so long!!
Thank you for posting this! as a layman doing research on this, it's still quite challenging to find good and balanced information on this. There are so many sources I'll dig into only to start getting a very disconcerting sense of an overtly hostile bias or agenda.
This is amazing, thank you so much for your work! I'm fascinated by religion and philosophy since I was a child, and I still love learning about it! To me personally it's so important to learn about other cultures and to understand them because this can be the only way to achieve peace. I was always fascinated by Islam and wondering what kind of religion people practiced before that, so I'm very grateful for this video! Liked and subscribed!!!🇮🇪👍😊
Islam is from the Devil. Muhammad was never a prophet of GOD.
What about the Banshee and ancient Gaelic deities .. what about the supreme kings of the Tara and the sacred trees
Ahmad Al-Jallad is one of the most interesting scholar of Islamic and Quranic studies right now, especially because his expertise on other Arabic languages/dialects and scripts, other than Qurayshi/Quranic dialect and the Nabataean-Syrian form of Arabic script. His works really are important, refreshing, and much-needed contribution to the field.
you are asolutely right
@خربــز wat
Anyone that claims Arabic is originally from Syria/ N. Arabia is considered stupid in my eyes. The Arabic language and it’s ancestor old Arabic were spoken in Arabia way before the existence of the Nabateans. The Nabateans are known to have migrated from the Hejaz. Arabic tribes and people are from Yemen. Masons trying to rewrite history won’t change a thing.
I'm from Saudi Arabia and your description of the pre-Islamic religions was inaccurate. We believed in Allah the creator of everything, but we thought that he didn't care about humans ( he was not merciful) and we believed that he had daughters (The Angels) and fathers, (usually), will listen to their daughters, so the spirits of these angels (the daughters of God) will enter the stone statues, and if we give our sacrifices to these idols statues they, (the daughters of God), will intercede on our behalf to God.
Just a correction my friend! Nabatean Arabic was actually the Ancient Jordanian dialect
You forgot to mention Hubul, the male deity along side Lat, Manat and Uzza. It was as significant as these three female deities.
Watch debate robert morey vs shabir ally
Very true
He mentioned Baal
It is believed that Hubal was an modification of "Ho-wa Ba'al" or "He is Ba'al" .. basically an aspect of Ba'al that was imported into Arabia from Syria.
@@nasiaking Hubal and Ba'al are not the same at all
Hi I lived in Saudi. There is a Nestorian Church in Jubail which many of us expats visited. Until around the 1950s there was an underground group of Christians in the Eastern Province. Tarut had its own bishop at one point before the Wahhabist whirklwind took over. I drove in the desert and saw rock art and stone circles near Riyadh, ancient Greek cities in the desert also.
Underground because Saudi Arabia doesn't welcome Christianity presumably, yes? Given the decline of Christianity in the developed world, by the time the Arab cultural sphere gets out of the morass it's been in since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, Christianity will probably be almost entirely a southern hemisphere religion! It's curious how, since 1800CE or so, the more wealthy and modernized a nation becomes, the more it secularizes. All the more reason to get economic development in the Islamic world to temper some of the dangerous fundamentalist tendencies there. I, for one, would love to visit Saudi Arabia and see some of these historic sites you mention.
I really appreciate you bringing these topics up for discussion. It is something i crave and I am so thankful.
i don't know if there is anyone else on KZhead whose work I have more respect for. Out comes a guy from Sweden who has helped me understand so much about the religion/culture I was born into. Thank you so much!
Listen to Bart Ehrman and potholer54. They are unbelievable.
Check out also Blogging Theology
His work has made me leave Islam. Alhamdullilah!
You were predestined to be different(Romans 8:29), he who has an ear to hear, let him hear(Mark 4:9). HALLELUYAH!(PRAISE YE YAH!)
@Andrew Whyte Why do you say so? Everything I have heard has been exceptional.
This channel is so addictive.
literally, this is one of the best and worthy KZhead channels that anyone can subscribe to. Thank you
I know a lot on this topic, being an Arab and having interest, this video covered all the information I know and added some. Good work well done.
Same
@@agadirand4four347 Hubal is comparable to Zeus, Zeus in Greek mythology does not rule supreme over all being. In any case, true Tawheed in Sufism is to know that Being is but one.
@@agadirand4four347 they say Allah is what you pray to when you are stranded on a boat in the middle of the ocean during a mighty storm.
@@agadirand4four347 when you are totally lost and alone in the vast empty desert with no food or water and no one knows where you are, whom do you pray to?
@@agadirand4four347 .
Been watching you for a while. This is probably your best episode.
I have always wondered about this topic. Thank you for all the work you put in to create these informative videos.
Thank you for making these videos. They're very informative and enjoyable. 👍🏻
Best debating as well as knowledgeable comments on KZhead 🙏
Highly appreciated , brilliant as usual.
I love learning about all religion from a historical perspective.
Me too.
Have a look at the holidays christians celebrate. Easter for example was originally a Norse thing, they used to paint eggs, the children used to wear rabbit skins and run around giving them out to people. All as a celebration for spring and fertility. Christians adapted this to gain the following of some by still letting them keep their celebrations, just made it mean something else. Days of the week are also Norse. Religions pretty much went around adopting customs to create new common ideologies that could be used to keep populations together and under a certain belief system
@@freshmilk1313 Easter is more anglosaxon than norse. You get me ? Ok.
me too! is there a word for this subject?
Magical thinking is interesting
Awesome video. Loved the part about the history of poets being held as conduits. Really gave me more context to Islam So interesting
I love your videos. They're always informative and nuanced. It's very refreshing. Keep up the good work!
U keep putting one video after other with great content without faltering even once. You have a high proficiency and command over your speech and you engage and inform peacefully and proficiently.
I don't feel like I deserve the high praise. But I appreciate it a lot!
He knows so much about islam yet still rejects it 😐
@@hasanal-hussein7079 It is not up to us to criticize. Be a better Muslim if you want to invoke a better rememberence of God in others.
@@kemalcalsr7591 So do you think he isn't a muslim because he doesn't like the way muslims behave? Do you really think a smart guy like him would commit such a fallacy
@@hasanal-hussein7079 I don't know anything about him other than this channel. I don't have an idea of what he thinks. What i know is, greatest form of dawah is to represent islamic life as best as we could, in the way Blessed Prophet(pbuh) did. This means not looking down on other people by making self righteous remarks, but showing the beauty of Iman by seeing the beauty of Ar Rahman in an his creation. A muslim who acts good, speaks good(useful), and writes good will serve the faith right. Whereas the one who criticize and look down upon them will only push people away from islam.
I was literally thinking about this on my way to work and now I see you’ve posted it. Perfect timing
Very informstive. Scholarly and entertaining at the same time. Toda!
I loved this video. I've always found history to be a fascinating topic. I'll certainly watch the whole series.
I was literally reading about this yesterday, great subject, great coverage of it.
What's very interesting is how things, even with religion removed, changed. For example the architecture, the clothes, the government systems, the customs and traditions. In the West and much of the media, Arabia or Islam are always presented as this fixed nonchanging exotic location with a single language, religion, way of clothing etc. where in reality it was as diverse and as ever changing as any other place. As Europe went from the classical ages (think ancient Greece), to Romans, and to the Medieval Age (knights), so did Arabia, and neither did it as a single step that you'd see in a Civ video game. This is something that "nationalists" ignore even on 'domestic' matters, always presenting the Vikings or Medieval Knights as this fixed idea that fits neatly into untouchable categories. In reality it's more like a web, and instead of solid color squares, it's more like an 'intermixing' rainbow... if you get what I mean. So now my mind has been intrigued and I want to learn more about this. Forget just Islam, give me the "secular/evidence based" history of Arabia - let's look at it from an Academic lens... that's often missing in these topics.
"Forget just Islam, give me the "secular/evidence based" history of Arabia - let's look at it from an Academic lens... " Oh yes, and DO mention the historical experience modern people have, because of Civ. I invaded more countries, conquered more lands and killed more adversaries than Ghengis Khan, Napoleon, Alexander the Great AND Julius Caesar, and these experiences matter. I changed the course of history, I upgraded all these cultures, I did all that. It felt quite real. So I read about history from my most experienced point of view. The say "winners write history books". I feel like I am one of them, the best of them actually.
It was not today
People who are ignorant of history thinks a transition of one era toward another only happens with violence or the wipe out of an entire culture and civilization. In reality people changes like trends. I dont say this only for one group of people but everyone who are ignorant toward history
Rothman, quoted earlier, said...''All that was known in Mesopotamia came from Armenia and that Armenia is the absent fragment in the entire mosaic of the ancient world's civilization's construction. what some historians say...H.V. Hilprecht(1859-1925) a Clark research professor of Assyriology and scientific director Babylonian expedition at the University of Penn. argue that the Hittite tongue is Armenian and the Hittites themselves were of Armenian stock...according to Ellis (1861) through language analysis we observe that under the names of Phrygians, Thracians,Pelasgians and Etruscans spread westward from Armenia to Italy and Elis claimed that the closest affinities of the Aryan element are the Armenians ..other historians that agree are..Hellenthal, Busgy, Brand, Wilson, Myers and Falush...let me quote Merrick (2012) All religions are descended from and ancient Vedic cosmology described in the Rib - Veda, originating in Armenia near Mt. Ararat at least 6800 ys ago and the basic concepts of a transcendental mountain extending into space and populated planet Star-gods were developed...he further says...This Astrotheology then migrated with Armenian Aryans to found the Sumerian Ethiopian/Egyptian and Indian civilizations and religions...from Language as a fingerprint Setyan..
I'm from Saudi Arabia and your description of the pre-Islamic religions was inaccurate. We believed in Allah the creator of everything, but we thought that he didn't care about humans ( he was not merciful) and we believed that he had daughters (The Angels) and fathers, (usually), will listen to their daughters, so the spirits of these angels (the daughters of God) will enter the stone statues, and if we give our sacrifices to these idols statues they, (the daughters of God), will intercede on our behalf to God.
you handled that intro beautifully and delicately! masterful video. so well done!
I have been watching ur videos lately And u are the most nuteral and non biased person on youtube talking about religion.....I do really like ur videos.Great work,Please keep doing it❤❤💖
Ive just met you with this video, and loved it. Your voice, accent and clear pronounciation makes the subject quite followable and interesting especially for non-native English audience, since most of the sources in English and sometimes its quite hard to understand the narrator even with subtitles. Thank you very much for your efforts. 🙏🏻
A legendary version of public speaking, for making the better enlightenment for all
Hello
You were predestined to be different(Romans 8:29), he who has an ear to hear, let him hear(Mark 4:9). HALLELUYAH!(PRAISE YE YAH!)
@@theexile1155 Religions are basically lies. Atheism is best
This is great. Something I have been longing to hear more about
Hey! I really appreciate how you take the effort to learn the proper pronunciation of every word.
I found your channel recently and I can't stop watching your videos. It is what I was looking for a long time. Your videos are so informative, the way you are explaining very complicated issues is really interesting, you are very objective, humble, smart and you have such a smooth voice. Please keep it up!
@Abhinandan Zambare sounds interesting
Just a few weeks ago around Ramadan, I was learning the arabic history and I assimilated all the data mentioned here. Since I myself researched all data from various sources, I can guarantee for the content of this Video ! Thanks for the efforts mate ❤️
This is very very interesting! I cannot rule out some degree of commonality between pre-Islamic belief systems and the Hindu belief systems considering the geographical closeness of Arabian peninsula to the Indian sub continent, mutual trade and migratory movement of people through Persia and Central Asia. I think this aspect too needs to be explored.
It's possible. But even before India the closest civilisations to them were zoarastrian, Greek cultures also. And as we studied in School the four ancient civilisations were Indus valley, Mesopotamia, the Egyptian and one in China. Both Egyptian and Mesopotamian could also have been influences. Pagan and polytheistic beliefs were I suppose common everywhere, even the Incas of the Americas. So could have indian influences but needn't
@@Neha-xs3xk I have a theory. All people who lived closer to the equator line had some unique and shared belief systems. From that perspective the American civilisational values have something’s common with the Indian civilisation. Having visited many countries in the South America and interacted a little with the indigenous people in North America I can say this. Perhaps there is need to make a comparative study of these civilisations!
@@Neha-xs3xk yes but when you go back that far, you have to appreciate what was the total global population? Very small. Then you have things like stoned ape theory? Like, how did advances explode at the most critical junctures of human evolution eg. Linguistically ... deux in french = do in hindi for example ... very basic concept ... similar word in 2 countries that are quite remote even by today's standards.
Because India was a source of great wealth & arabia was a barren desert ... they had to expand outwards for their own survival from the barren desert landscape that they hail from with ancient pagan beliefs & warlords?
I have a theory, the arabs needed india's wealth to fuel their expansion outwards from the desert & islam became their rallying cry - but at it's core it was just in their own self-interest to make arabia centre of the world/universe & establish themselves as rulers.
the way you pronounce Ghassanids... love it! very respectful to the original pronunciation
Great video as always. Well researched, respectful and very informative. Excellent work.
Super good video! It's great that we're learning more of the politheistic world in ancient Arabia through archeology and how it relates to the monotheistic world.
I like your VDOs very much. You carry out so much research before making each VDO. Thank you
Religion from a historical perspective is such a wonderful topic! Thank you for covering this so concisely.
@@gregoryt8792 yeah the Bible is fiction. But way to be that person on a video that isn’t even about Christianity.
sound , tone and very spoken words were clear -clean and beautiful..
This channel has seen exponential growth this year. 2021 has certainly been very fruitful for you. Wishing you the best of luck for your future endeavours!
Great content I'm new to this channel and certainly new as well to this type of respectful discussion between strangers over the Internet
higthly appreciate your efforts to made this video, i could see how you worked hard to find all information. thanks to your shraring links i am able to access more detailed information of Islam and Arabian history. may Allah bless your kindness.
Love your channel man just found it about a month ago keep up the great work! You have some serious story telling skills
Hello, I've recently learned your videos and watched most of it; you rock, man! And as an Turkish alevi, I'm looking forward to seeing video that explains alevism, with differences from nusayris and Shia. Cheers
Wonderfull! Thank you for your work and time!
Thank you for such a wonderfully informative and interesting video.
i love this. your style is great. i love how you chose a very specific topic and critically analysed it so well. new sub
Looking forward to this.
Thanks so much for this very enlightening presentation!
Thank you so much. I really enjoyed listening to this.
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Its so important to know these things....TY for your hard work! I wonder if there is a study like this on pre USA
Thank you for the short explanation. Excellent.
I just found this.. so interesting. I have studied comparative religion at university, but this context is so well researched and contains much that I have not encountered before. New subscriber here. Thanks again.
I love this channel. Thank you brother greetings from Asia Minor
Very interesting video! I greatly enjoy the study of history, and the religious aspect is often one that eludes me, coming from my agnostic perspective. I will definitely be watching some more of your videos to learn more about the world's many varieties of faith.
I'm from Saudi Arabia and your description of the pre-Islamic religions was inaccurate. We believed in Allah the creator of everything, but we thought that he didn't care about humans ( he was not merciful) and we believed that he had daughters (The Angels) and fathers, (usually), will listen to their daughters, so the spirits of these angels (the daughters of God) will enter the stone statues, and if we give our sacrifices to these idols statues they, (the daughters of God), will intercede on our behalf to God.
@@MrHoot-zp7udreally mate? You are not doing your religion any favours by reposting the same dogmatic message on every vaguely religious comment.
A GREAT TOPIC - Always relevant .
Good video, thank you very much for posting it, watched all of it
This is VERY important work for civilization as a whole. Thank you for your research; we ALL need to be broad in our understanding of each other. Understanding contributes dramatically to patience and MORE understanding of each other's differences. Knowledge of History is critical! Thank you again.
Agree with your point but it is unrealistic and will never be achieved. Few people have strong interest in continuous learning or expanding their knowledge and world view. So what to do when so many will definitely remain ignorant and remain brainwashed by whatever tripe the popular media run by globalist control freaks chooses to tell them.
@@redpillhope I agree, with OP, and then you as well. Sad truths.
@Rabid Dog how many times are you going to post this nonsense on this thread? If you knew history extreme violence is rampant with many nations and beliefs. Just hammering on Islam shows your agenda. Extreme violence unfortunately is part of human history. The point of the video is to offer some information to those who are interested, not to further troll agendas.
I'm from Saudi Arabia and your description of the pre-Islamic religions was inaccurate. We believed in Allah the creator of everything, but we thought that he didn't care about humans ( he was not merciful) and we believed that he had daughters (The Angels) and fathers, (usually), will listen to their daughters, so the spirits of these angels (the daughters of God) will enter the stone statues, and if we give our sacrifices to these idols statues they, (the daughters of God), will intercede on our behalf to God.
The Saudis do not have a civilization, rather they used to live in ignorance, they do not have a civilization. Rather, the inhabitants of deserts do not even have water. It was a barren desert, and their face was disgusting with a foul smell😊
It was so cute when you pronounced milieu as miljö ❤️ the pronunciation is close anyway. The Swedish vowel is further back and more open than in french/English.
I don't think the o umlaut and u umlaut sounds exist in English
@@pokerface7840 There is a similar sound. For example, the word 'girl' sounds a lot like "görl".
Very interesting and insightful! Thanks a lot!
great videos... thanks and please continue with the good job
Love this channel bro
Thank you, informatively brilliant!
very good and very knowledgeable piece of work
Hats off! Most accurate and reflects the deep knowledge the gentleman Al-Jallad possesses which I assume took at least years of hard work! Thanks a lot for the illuminating video & keep up with the good work!
Dear mr.majeed.do you belive that there was some religion earlier to Islam.which was the first religion
"Hi, I'm Sam the son of Ben the son of Bill the son of Bob." "Oh, hello, so-and-so."
Nice to meet you Sam Benson Williamson Robertson
What should i call you then😂
😂 is Bill realy your grandfather name?
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very nice narative skills, and a 10 for the pronouncement
Wonderful thorough academic all videos are excellent and never ever disappoint superb respectful contextual
Channelling some Robert sepehr black cube and the goddess clip. Nice job
This was amazing please can we have some more!
🥺🙏🏻 thank you for the suggested readings, and all the work that went into this video
Great presentation in both content and in the presentation itself...well done.
Very well done. Your research is on point. Good job.
In love with the content and the channel, thanks to you I’m in love with my culture again…I am super interested in al mutazilla, any chance you can dedicate a video for the movement, philosophies and governing ideas plz…
, you are amazing! Such a brilliant scholar, blows my mind. Every lecture video is fascinating and i learn. Thank you. You are the best of the best professors. Huge fan.
I've always heard the vague paganism description and hadn't thought much about it past that. Thank you for this very informative video. It was a complex melting pot of various religious backgrounds there. I'll likely end up listening to some of your other videos in the weeks ahead! God be with you out there everybody! ✝️ :)
This is one of the most fascinating topics
I know!!