Testing The Most Powerful Pepperball Gun Yet | The Grimburg Gavle
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499.00 dang
Ever done a video on Punch daggers or push knivrs?
How many grams was the projectile?
@@michaelsmith2055 doesnt he say in the video?
@@mannyfragoza9652 I went back and looked but all he says is “impact round”
"But I do what I want" being the refrain of this video was art at a high level
I'm pretty sure I was supposed to read a script or at least some talking points since it was sponsored... but it's Saturday so I've got a day or two head start on them.
Agreed 👍! …”But I do what I want.“ 🤣,👊!!
@@hard2hurt sponsor smonsher you do what you want lol
I'm totally using this one.
🎼I did it myYyYyY wAYyYyYy 🎶🎶🎶
"Oooh... shit, that's too loud for out here. We gotta go, yikes!" Kid in the background... "what was thaat!?" 🤣🤣🤣
Starting hauling ass 😂
It’s amazing how mike’s content feels so friendly and down to earth yet has really fucking good production quality. Clear he’s a pro
Thanks for telling me that... i try to make it feel personal, not like a tv show.
For more context. A compact .22 short pistol generates between 60 and 100 joules. A framing hammer swung over the distance of 1 meter generates between 25 and 35 joules. A 40 gram bean bag from a shotgun produces 80 to 90 joules, but spread out over a serface area of about 4 inches. Swinging a 3/4 inch diameter stick 24 inches long over the space of a meter produces between 30 and 50 joules. Falling onto the ground while running (provided you don't attempt to catch yourself) can generate between 40 and 80 joules. All of these things are potentially (and probably) lethal, esp. if it hits you in the head. Small bones generally start breaking around 40 joules and large bones generally start breaking around 80 joules, but the exact nature of the impact, angle, anatomy and leverage makes a huge difference in those numbers. Damage could potentially happen as much as 20 joules lower or higher than that. A weighted, semisolid projectile 7/16 inch diameter producing 39 joules of force is also absolutely a probabilistically lethal round. Definitely Don't Do This At Home!
Your calculations sound a bit off. I estimated a falling body. Lets say your weighing 100kg and you fall 1 meter (reasonable for a trip?), so you'd impact with 9,81 m/s that gives us 4811.81 Joule already.
@@i.c.wiener2750 you're not actually wrong, but often these things don't translate to the real world. I didn't actually calculate the body falling, but I've been into martial arts and physics my entire life. Realistically it's not 100kg falling 1 meter. It's more like 100kg distributed along a stick that's standing upright and tipping over. Not only does it work out to a lot less energy, but the impact is spread out over a pretty big area. Either way, if falling actually generated over 4 thousand joules humans would be dying off by the hundreds of thousands every day.
To impact at 9.81m/s you need to fall for a second, so 5m. Otherwise E=mgh, so 100 kg from 1m is 981J. But you take that over a large surface.
A 2 m long 100 kg stick falling over has the exact same kinetic energy as a 100 kg weight dropping 1 m. The impact happens at 45 degrees though.
@@marcelmuller8166 Damn, I knew something was off lol. Still, around 1000J sounds different than the 40J - 80J calculated by OP.
consider also that the intruder after getting shot , combining the loudness of this thing with the feel of impact,would probably think he got shot by real gun. Mike your the man.... respect from Greece
I think a lot of people would assume they were shot.
That's what I'm thinking
Your "Other people exist" speech was perfect... Not enough people say it or believe like that... I had never seen your videos before but it made me subscribe immediately...
I agree.
Although it is an important point, if you can you should definitely just go for a firearm. The issue is that your home is the last line if you're unprepared. That's the important distinction. A firearm is absolute every time (just so long as you aren't unreasonably inaccurate), even in the most dire of situations. If this is the best you can get than it isn't a question, but if it isn't then don't unless you live by yourself.
@@midgetman4206Just be prepared to spend 50K-75K and the next 6-9 months in court defending yourself and your reasoning for using deadly force to a liberal DA and Judge in the hopes that they don't find you guilty and sentence you to 5-10 years in prison.
@@Joreel Of course the tool should be used under the proper circumstances. Pulling a firearm on something that rarely needs it is stupid. At the same time, you shouldn't be afraid of using the more effective device for unknown/risky situations. Those would be break-ins and suspicious individuals. Using it on people you just don't like on the other hand is just selfish and cowardly. His example of a psychotic ex. I think that's more complicated. 1 time is a warning, so it shouldn't need a lethal reaction. Anything after that though, the person is too crazy to be safely kept around, and it's their actions that show that since no sane and respectable person would return after a warning unless they're willing to reach extreme measures. Luckily I live in a state that is more lenient on gun ownership and self-defense, but my statement is for those protecting others besides themselves. When the lives of loved ones are on the line, sacrificing one's own freedom and maybe even life is already a forethought (or at least should be).
@@Joreel That's why smart folks choose to live in red states. And if Kyle Rittenhouse and George Zimmerman can both be found NOT GUILTY, I'm not too worried because I have even better judgement than them.
As far as a "known threat at home" kind of scenario, this looks like a fantastic in-hand primary.... With a lethal backup
Not to be used indoors or up wind, could pepper yourself? 🤪😏
I like the added 'with lethal backup'. Somehow it seems as if people use lethal optionas their go to and, if they have a backup at all, it's poorly thought out. Having (a) the mental concept and distinction between known and unknown threats and (b) a less lethal tool with a lethal backup sounds waaaay more thoughtful to me
No way. You're telling me if your KNOW there's an intruder in your house and you have a lethal option, you're going to be foolish enough to go deal with the threat with a non lethal "primary"? When shit hits the fan you have less than 2 seconds to stop the threat. You're not going to be switching between weapon options mid catastrophy.
@@aydinsha it depends. If it's just some random stranger (UNKNOWN threat or threats) Who's already IN your home, maybe you should step it up. But if it's a KNOWN threat (aka you know the person, their capabilities and motives) Who is just outside being a dick, that leaves you with way more options. Also, as stated in the video, not everyone can have or want to have firearms. Here in Germany for example, we usually can't have guns for home or self defense. (We also can't have pepper ball dispensers with more than 7.5 Jules... So... Damn...) But still, some people just refuse to have a gun (absolutely within their rights, even if I personally disagree) And others might have reservations to take a life (most people btw, even the ones who are oh so tough... They are not.) Amd than also, if you KNOW the threat and its capability, you can make a pretty well informed decision. If the threat is NOT a threat to your life, maybe think twice about killing him... Even when it's technically legal... Or, even if you are that rare individual, who actually can take someone's life without remorse (unlikely but certainly possible) even when you know for a fact that the person can't or won't kill you (very possible with known threats) and even if you would escalate to lethal force whenever (technically) justified (which would be well within your rights) than that's still just you and your decision. Other people might decide to take the risk (which is kinda small anyways since we're still taking about a known threat) and take the non or less lethal option as a primary and the lethal option as a backup. It's what I would do and what probably most people should do. In the end it's a very personal and individual decision, based on a shitton of variables, most of them are kimda clear with known threats.
@@manuelschmoller2884 Unknown threat should always be lethal IF you are protecting others is what people should think. You aren't serious otherwise. Besides that I agree. Though to make people have the idea of its capability, I think it should be called deterrence. That way people won't fool themselves into situations that this could put them into. If a second person can take up the firearm then it can be excused as a first option since the other person would be there at the ready, but if it's only one acting then that is a different story since that's a whole lot for one to do and decide in such a potentially short time.
Mike: I realize I wasnt very articulate and you probably want to know what that felt like" Me: I believe it felt like "ah fuuuuck" Lol
Ahh you speak dude
Thank you for uploading, was wondering where you were, and you delivered@@hard2hurt
When a guy like Mike can't talk, it's hurting.
@@TimRHillard you've got that right, I've seen him take hits from all of the ones he's done on the channel and this was the only time I've ever seen him speechless.
My wife, Ashley, commentating during your "other people exist" was perfectly timed 😂
“But I do what I want” is crazy, I love it 😂
People send me these little emails full of "instructions" all the time... it's so stinkin cute.
@@hard2hurt ahh yes, I am man on the internet, surely I know more about this topic than the guy who does this as his job. Keep doing what you’re doing, love your content.
It’s good to see you again!
39J meant next to nothing to me, so I looked up some things to compare it to. A .22LR from a rifle is about 180J, a 9mm defensive load will be about 550J, or an arrow fired from a compound bow for hunting will typically be around 100J. The arrow is going to have less energy because the energy calculation square the velocity, so with an arrow's higher mass and lower velocity, it has less energy. The arrow overcomes this by the shape of the arrowhead and momentum. The takeaway I'm getting is that the pepper balls are going to be miserable to be hit with, and the hard ammo may actually be lethal, depending on where it hits. You definitely don't want one of these hitting you in the head or throat.
“You’ve got some broken ribs, your jaw is wired shut, and we had to remove both your gonads…. But it didn’t kill you!”
Airsoft guns are usually around 1j if that helps put it in context of something you might have been hit with.
49j is roughly the minimum for deadly energy so its close
@@hyperfluous whether or not its lethal depends entirely on the *size* of the projectile. Look up captive bolt research, 68 joules is listed as inneffective stun and 450 joules is often not enough to kill cattle. 100 joules to a human head is probably going to cause some brain damage but they will probably live.
I have one and a Byrna HD. Both excellent. The cool thing about these is you can stack your rounds. I stack 7 rounds as rubber/steel, OC gas, rubber/steel, OC gas/ the rest rubber/steel. You can put the rounds in which ever way you feel the need to. Suggestion: Buy the orange versions of these weapons. I think it’s good to know this is not a firearm in most situations.
You said most situations... I can only think of one situation and it is an extremely rare one. Can you describe this situationm
@@hard2hurt you pull it out on someone with a real firearm, or police see it. Orange makes it known that’s it’s 99% a less than lethal weapon.
I'd rather someone in my home thinks it's a real gun. Police are knocking my door down as I play by the rules. I would not carry this outside concealed, too bulky in my opinion for that. But for the home, especially where I live (basically in top of neighbors in any direction) I could see this being viable to prevent over penitration. If someone was to carry this in public I could also see orange being a good option, but I feel conceal n carry is best with a compact shorter barrel actual fire arm.
I wouldn't stack rounds in this unless your using the soft spring. The pepperball WILL explode in the barrel with the hard spring
@@squidsleapwhat about felons?
I ordered a Gavle last week, I hope I get it soon. Awesome video! Mike you are the man! Prayers 🙏 that you heal quickly.
It was a lot of fun... and very powerful.
@@hard2hurt I hope you are feeling better 🙏
@@hard2hurtfun?🤦 Oh my, your poor wife🤪.
@@hard2hurt Mike when you showed us your chest where the round impacted, I was very alarmed. I hope it healed and that you are well. I enjoy your channel very much.🙏
You'll enjoy your Grimburg Gavle. It's a great launcher. I have a Umarex HDX 50 Joules 16 shot Shottie I use for home defense. Eventually I'll have enough saved up to either get a Gavle or the Solstice when it comes out next year.
I hope Grimburg cut you a HUGE cheque after that! Not because you acted, but because that was an awesome product review. Love your content. Many thanks.
Real Cartman energy on this one. "Shut up! I do what I want!" Really well edited and paced vid, gj Mike.
If this hits your throat you are dead 100%. Good thing your friend had decent aim. Man I love you for this, the realest out here!
Thanks man!
Wouldn't want to test that theory out! That said, I watched a guy get shot through the throat with a 5.56 round out in Iraq. He did a somersault, grabbed his throat, got up and ran about a half mile away before disappearing into the distance.
Thats still a mortal wound or grievous injury and and definitely a deterrent😅 it really sounds they person shot is in a state of dying to me @waltimus
I'm very interested in this. I've really been thinking about how to handle a situation that doesn't justify lethal force, but requires some type of force
It's really powerful.
@@hard2hurtyeah we saw😅 lol good one man nice to see a good review where the person actually “tries “ the impact
@@Over-9kIt makes me wonder about the "less than lethal" part. I could see the thing penetrating the gut, or maybe killing on a head shot, certainly it could knock a person out.
If you are in a situation that requires force, it better be lethal. The other person is not going to share your optimism; they are a criminal after all. Using something like this only scares the little fishes away. You could probably scare the little fishes away by standing up straight and acting like you own it. So if this doesn't do lethal, and you can just act strong to scare off the little fishes, so what is it for? Yeah, just saying.
I prefer my tactical buckler but you do you lmao
Next time on Houston Jones. 😬 Very insightful video. This would be an excellent alternative in circumstances where maybe people have issues with mentally ill/addicted loved ones. Where the loved one is an active threat and escalating and you need a deterrent until law enforcement arrives. The impact zone is immediately noticeable through the chest hair, I though it had removed skin like a rock salt round would, still immediately noticeable after 4 days.
spicy airsoft
very spicy
airhard
@@aliberkozderya3112 spicehard?
@@oz_jones air propelled hard spice
The spice must flow!
You often hear stories of people being shot and not even realizing it aside from a warm sensation. Based on your reaction, this thing feels much less lethal and much more deterring.
Dude. That was legit scary when you went down. Taking one for the team just went to a whole new level!
I havent seen a lot of people take an impact round from the gavle to the chest. I think this will help a lot of people make an informed self defense choice. Thank you for risking your own health. I hope you heal well.
My wife bought me a hard2hurt t-shirt for my birthday. She's a keeper! Also, I'm stoked to see a new gear review.
Mike! We missed you!
Hey, i bought an pistol umarex tp50 11 joules. My brother and I tested it on each other and it really hurts, no joke, a training cartridge in the stomach brings you to your knees in pain. And you ate 38 joules... Big respect
BOOM! Thanks for doing this. I've owned one of these for several months, and I've been waiting for a live demonstration. Thank you
It might work well for law enforcement. They often have people refuse to get out of their vehicles. Penetrate a window that isn't occupied and fill the car with pepperballs.
I can see nothing going wrong with this.
The only downside is the whole "I can't breathe" aspect. Could be very difficult maintaining forcible restraint on a perp under the conditions some of these pepperballs/spray inflict onto a body and have it hold up in court. I really DO like the idea tho! Perhaps just a different chemical mix.
Ya great for the fragile ego power hungry men in costumes. That's all we need...
I just saw a badgecam earlier today where a subject without a shirt was hit with a beanbag round from a shotgun and it penetrated his chest cavity resulting in his death. Fabric layer(s) over soft tissue do spread out the force and tend to prevent/reduce over-penetration, which is likely why he wore a hoodie and t-shirt. Plus his chest hair probably helped, too. 😃I certainly wouldn't want to test this shirtless. As a teen in the early '80's I had a friend shoot me with my pellet rifle with ten pumps at 100', while wearing a t-shirt, flannel shirt and military jacket. While it did not penetrate the fabric, it did leave a blackened center with a 2" welt and I was jumping around like a wounded jackrabbit. other areas were protected with plywood.
I know people who were shot with pellets and the pellets got lodged in them and either got pulled out or are still there
Bro.. you got some freakin Balls!! I would have never done that..I have one of those Grimburg Gavle,and tested on a piece of 1/2” plywood from about 25 to 30 feet and it went right through it!! I had to stop testing it after the first shot because it’s freakin loud.. I didn’t want the neighbors to call the cops! 😂 Thank you 🙏 tho for taking one for the team! 👍 Great video keep up the good work 🤙🏾
I have learned so much from the channel and I appreciate how transparent he is.
Thank you for making these videos they brighten my life. also happy easter!
Great video as usual. Thanks for always sacrificing your body for us Mike.
My concern with these for defense outside of your home is coming from living in Texas where everyone carries. Even the screw loose people you wish didn't. This feels like "don't pull a gun on someone if you don't intend to shoot them." This is basically pulling what will seem like a real gun with a real enough gun sound in the moment, that you'll just give permission for everyone else to draw and theirs will be real. Inside your home, do what you want. All bets are off. But outside in a city environment, you're bringing a gun shaped knife to a gun fight.
These are for states like California where people cannot conceal carry a firearm.
I agree, I like the option of less lethal weapon as a logistical option, but it does seem like it would be more dangerous for you because it both looks and sounds like a gun, but without the capability of one. And even in California, what if someone with a concealed carry permit, a criminal who doesn’t care about the law, or an actual police officer, sees you with it, or sees you use it on someone, that probably won’t turn out well for you. So, it would be nice to see Mike, or someone else touch on this part of it. And if there is any solution to it, for example, you can treat it how police treat Tasers, by carrying it and an actual gun, or how police will yell “taser taser” so that everyone around knows that it’s not a gun
I think the best way is to carry it with a real gun. After shooting this gun, drop it and draw the real gun and be ready but don't shoot unless the other person makes a move?
@@veseysplays you'd be mag dumped before you got to step 2
@@albonthegoat been watching a lot of John wicke movies lately huh
Just found this channel and I have already watched multiple of your videos. Great content, keep it up!
Been waiting all day since you teased this on IG. Absolutely fantastic. Way to take one for the team! Thanks for all the great content Mike!
Im purchasing one soon.
That forest on your chest explains where all the hair on your head went ;) No but seriously this was a great video. Very educational
U took that hit like man. Ty for that. Its very insightful and looks very plausible for serious home defense.
Dude, the build up and the pay off was perfect. The review was spot on.
imagine what the metal round would do to the head, right over the heart, eyes and teeth 💀
It would be lethal
That was right over the heart
@@chrisboyne5791He crumbled to the floor.
@@chrisboyne5791 mike says he got hit in the right pec 12:20
How quickly can you ready it? Would you say it's equivalent to carrying a handgun with the chamber empty and having to rack it to ready it? More? Less?
It's almost exactly like that
Assuming you already loaded it, You just have to twist the cylinder to pressurize and you're in business. It literally takes as long as it would take you to close a bottle of water to get the Gavle in a ready state
Happy Easter man. Just when I was wondering when you'd put a new video out, it's here!
Excellent review! Totally committed! Much respect! Thank you!
next, review black powder antique revolvers for "less lethal" home defense.
I don't know anything about them... but I have thought about it.
@@hard2hurt sounds like a great learning opportunity! We just gotta get Pieta to sponsor a video...
Mike, in what situations do you recommend this over other non-lethal force options? I'm European and this things still seems overkill to me for 99.9% of situations. Also, can you discuss the effects of this looking like a gun? I think very often it would make people run away, or draw their own gun... Thanks for this great vid!
The ones I talked about in the video... does that help?
Also it looking like a gun is a non issue
I appreciate that you “do what you want” sir. It certainly provides a sense or reality for the things your testing
Thank you for this review. I am absolutely going to get one of these for myself.
Well. Defending your house yes, if that's what you want. My house nope. My bedside rifle is a .45/70 and my side arm is a .45. Old school works for me.
Exactly the kind of review I have been looking for on the Gavle. There is no comparison between this and the Byrna, but I think I still wanna hold out for the Grimburg Solstice. Great video review!
You are a fearless soul and real man, no question about it. I might have to obtain one of these.
So, for the house. Have you ever considered just using a paintball gun ? I worked for a mechanic, he had a back lot full of junkers. We'd constantly get people coming to steal scrap, we had a "security guard". And his weapon of choice was a Tippman 98 modded to shoot hard with a mix of pepper and rubber balls. He used it multiple times without getting reported, and every time the poor bastard scrambled out however they got in
Good job brother, thanks for the video. Love it! Hailing from Finland!
Great review. Incredibly informative and to the point.
Glad you are back posting again.
Your videos are by far the best. Very informative. To the point. Cordial. I like you, man. Well done.
Thank you for taking one for the cause
Love when you test these products. “I do what I want.” Your commentary is entertaining.
Wow! Thanks for taking one for the team! That was serious! Just subscribed 😉
*I used to play paintball and always had a backup hand paintball CO2 shooter tucked in the back of my hip, but for gosh stake it didn't make noises like that! It was mostly quiet like a normal rifle paintball gun is.* *And you can hit a quarter at football length easily with the rifle gun and yes it still hurt like hell.* *Get shot close up and you will have big fat black and blue swollen bruises, even through your protective gears.* *PSI in paintball tournaments are regulated for safety reason.* *If your PSI is set even 1 PSI over, you're DQ.*
Thanks for the review.
Talk about taking one for the team! Great review!
It is very cool and interesting to see your input on this topic while simultaneously entertaining to keep watching it fully, so keep up the amazing videos for this is my first time seeing your video.🙂
Your product reviews are amongst the best of your content. Love them ❤
Thanks for another video hard2hurt team.
Thanks for testing!
As a CBRN instructor in the Forces. That is the BEST description of CS gas lol 4:53 But Icy Mike Kudos
That was crazy seeing you drop like that. I can't even fathom what it'd be like to have someone panic-firing that thing at you. omg
This is by far the most impressive less lethal human demonstration on KZhead period bottomline. No one dared to get shot by the Grimburg TCP/FSC modified less lethal launcher. But this badass took a shot in the chest, he deserves more subscribers/views. Plus he does have an awesome real self defense life situations
8:35 umarex TR50 with power kit. Reloading clips available and can be stored with co2. When needed slam button to release co2 into weapon.
"This is going to come as a shock to you, YOU are not the only person on the planet". That delivery was gold. This is the first time I've watched this guy. I'm actually glad he did a live test with multiple layers of clothing. I've been eyeing a gavle for awhile now because I don't want to own a firearm (yes, I am one of those millions of people he spoke of) but want an effective home protection weapon. After watching this video I have 0 questions as to it's effectiveness and will be purchasing one in the near future.
Missed opportunity to call Huston Jones
Amazing video! Thank you!
Ya know, I've always felt like your reviews of stuff were very realistic and well thought out. So giving this such high praise is surprising to me. I think it's pretty cool and I'm glad it exists for the reasons you mentioned.
that “ i’m a little nervous “ should be the intro to all your videos
The speed at which I clicked on this 😂 I’ve been craving a new hard2hurt video
By the way, I love your intro saying how it is for many of us who prefer not to use lethal force. It's important that you included that. Thank you.
Hi, Mike! I love watching your videos on combat sports and self-defense because of how you test those theories/techniques and you make really good points about them. Your "no-nonsense" approach is amazing, and I really appreciate you making these videos. I have a question regarding items for self-defense. What do you think of combat boots or safety boots with a steel toe cap and kevlar midsole for self-defense? Would the added protection and weight make it a great self-defense aid? Assuming the person trains in combat sports like kickboxing or Muay Thai and would like to add a bit of oomph & safety to his kicks in street self-defense situations. Since combat boots are readily available to civilians and are perfectly legal even in countries where weapons are banned, would they be a viable self-defense option? Could you perhaps provide some insight on that? If possible, maybe you could even consider making this a topic in your upcoming videos.
I respect anyone that is willing to take a hit like this. That looked way too painful. I’m sold!
Mike I really appreciate it your honest and professional review. You brought value inout about this non lethal weapon as an alternative. This is a great example of Using the right tool for the right situation.
New to your content and loving it. You're so much fun to watch. Funny, informative and captivating. Keep it up! Ps, please review the Byrna Misson 4 Rifle
thank you for what you do!
This is the PERFECT option for someone like me who lives in Canada, where defending yourself with a firearm can land you in jail. Definitely ordering one of these ASAP!
i own two - great for hikes in northern CA - wild critters, dogs and coyotes....just the bang is nice.
Awesome video, I didn't know such a thing even existed. The "invaded by cartel ninja assassins..." part got me. No lies were told 😂😂
Wow! That's dedication
Thanks for the video! what are your thoughts on Byrna less lethal launcher?
Residing in New York, I see the appeal of using non-lethal projectiles, especially during the milder spring and summer months. However, come fall and winter, confronting intruders bundled up in heavy coats presents a potential challenge. In those situations, I would have to count on the reliability of the pepperball projectiles to maintain their effectiveness and deter any threats effectively.
Mike you're fucking awesome for taking one for the team!!!! I'm 100% confident this is effective because THAT SUCKED !!!
issue with co2 is u gotta have a new canister everytime.... and u gotta fumble with it to activate it..
the Umarex T4E HDP50 will give you the same effect with a power kit. Loved the video. That looks like a great product!
I have both and I upgraded the HDP50. It is nowhere near as poweful as the Gavle. I averaged about 15J with my HDP50 and 36.5 with my Gavle.
the impact round looks very legit, but honestly the idea of having a hand held tear-gas launcher sounds incredibly useful
The shooter is very skilled, from that distance, not hitting the belly, the heart area or head area, plus the pressure to not hit those areas lol.
Awesome, love these vids. Like the ones you made with Jay, where is he now btw?
Hey Mike any thoughts on this vs their FSC model? Loved this video thanks!
I'm definitely in the crowd of I'd love to not kill someone. I like to sleep at night, and it feels like it would change that.
Got Walther months ago. It's great, only around $104. Respect your sacrifice doing the shot test!
We appreciate what you go through for our entertainment.
I like your channel and great review. I am familiar with Grimburg. As a side issue, would it be possible to see a review of the Pepperball Blast?