The 7 Photography Mistakes I See All Photographers do! (2)

2024 ж. 13 Мам.
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Here are another 7 mistakes I see most photographers do and I show how to solve them.
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4:32 - Too much tripod
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9:01 - Packed Camera Bag?
10:43 - Under editing your photos
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  • Sadly KZhead hasn't entirely succeeded in getting rid of bots and scammers! I will never ever contact you or ask you to contact me and I don't do give-aways. Any replies from me here on KZhead you can recognize by the grayed out name!

    @MadsPeterIversen@MadsPeterIversenАй бұрын
  • "If in doubt, zoom out." is the simplest and best piece of advice I have heard in a long time. Thanks for that!

    @katrinawalker5160@katrinawalker51602 ай бұрын
    • My father Always told me this, and still often I forget .... And regret!

      @mauriciogarfield7122@mauriciogarfield71222 ай бұрын
    • Others said, use your feet to close-up!

      @os6219@os62192 ай бұрын
    • If you're going to edit the photo and possibly correct some geometry, it's better to have extra room and crop out a few pixels. at 45 megapixels, I've got a few to spare

      @geniferteal4178@geniferteal4178Ай бұрын
  • Saved this one, noticed that I make several of the mistakes you talk about..Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

    @ingabett@ingabett2 ай бұрын
  • Execellent video that showcases your teaching skills. I especially liked your caution about under-editing.

    @billpanuska5775@billpanuska57752 ай бұрын
  • the one with the big clouds at the beach. Dude... it blows my mind. Keep up the good work, I love learning from you!

    @nadineschaffland937@nadineschaffland9372 ай бұрын
  • Excellent information and examples Mads.........thank you for your time and effort compiling this fabulous video 😎📷

    @davidrushworth658@davidrushworth6582 ай бұрын
  • Really enjoyed this one. Thank you. And GREAT examples of your concepts.

    @mattdelcomyn8012@mattdelcomyn801218 күн бұрын
  • Love your approach to editing 😊 I always smile when people comment my photos with "Wow, but you edited it!" When I explain that the "click" is just the beginning of the work, they have that puzzled look of incomprehension, and they go on shooting boring photos with their phones... 😅

    @pierregreutert@pierregreutert2 ай бұрын
    • Sadly, they're like people who write a few lines of prose and think they're poets because they made it rhyme. Meanwhile, Robert Frost, when asked his opinion about all those little technical details of language in poetry, said, "I revel in them."

      @TigerPaw193@TigerPaw1932 ай бұрын
  • brilliant vid, so much really good advice. Thanks Mads.

    @brianm.9062@brianm.90622 ай бұрын
  • I'm very much a fan of handheld, even with slow shutter speeds. Avoiding camera shake can be done with shutter speed, or bracing and learning to hold the camera still longer. I've gotten shots up to 2 seconds that weren't visibly shaken. Granted, it did take multiple tries, an image-stabilized lens, and fairly big aperture to make that happen when it did, but I also enjoy the challenge, and not carrying extra gear when walking around places or hiking. Bracing (leaning with a lot of your body weight) against solid objects like cars, trees or walls is very effective. Also, sitting tucked on the ground with your elbows pressed into your knees and both your hands pressing the camera into your face is a good stance, if seated height gives you the shot you're looking for.

    @AlexandarHullRichter@AlexandarHullRichterКүн бұрын
  • Lots of useful information here, thx for sharing your knowledge and expertise. Much appreciated 👍👍

    @adventurecoalition3690@adventurecoalition36902 ай бұрын
  • Excellent advice! Thanks!

    @randyschwager2515@randyschwager25152 ай бұрын
  • Great tips - thanks Mads!

    @SteveZodiac777@SteveZodiac7772 ай бұрын
  • Wonderful! Thanks for the great info

    @suew6307@suew63072 ай бұрын
  • The "shrug" at the 10:19 mark made my day!

    @Larsproductions@Larsproductions2 ай бұрын
  • great advice and examples as always 👌

    @martinsarre@martinsarre2 ай бұрын
  • I started as a landscape/cityscape photographer and then got into portraits, sports and sport portrait photography mainly because my kids swim and I can use the opportunity to shoot. Watching this video has re-sparked my interest in landscape photography. Now to find the time to sneak away from the family to get out and shoot.

    @boostedmaniac@boostedmaniac2 ай бұрын
  • Wow, just some very easy understandable composition advices … thank you so much

    @flympi1539@flympi15392 ай бұрын
  • Really helpful tips!

    @SebastianReick@SebastianReick2 ай бұрын
  • First Photography mistake: not being in a most photographic scenery

    @Phreakazoidd@Phreakazoidd2 ай бұрын
  • amazing editing!!

    @loewenberg11@loewenberg112 ай бұрын
  • The missing item in the camera bag is something I can relate to. I tend to leave specific items in my bag all the time like filters, memory cards, intervalometer and cloths. My camera, lenses and batteries all sit on a shelf beside where I work so just a case of quickly deciding what lenses to take and then I'm good to go and normally leave one of my tripods in the car as well. The first mistake you discussed is interesting Mads as certainly from a landscape perspective I would agree with leaving space around the subject , although from an architecture perspective having a part of the image close to the edge is contended to create 'tension' and to emphasise the subject in some instances. Hope your enjoy your time in South America and you have your land legs back after your Drake's passage experience 🙂

    @scotty4418@scotty44182 ай бұрын
  • Great video, sensible useful advice.

    @user-xp1cf6xk1r@user-xp1cf6xk1r2 ай бұрын
  • outstanding video ... very helpful

    @user-lx5ig5ec4p@user-lx5ig5ec4p12 күн бұрын
  • Have never seen better edited photo than yours! Excellent. Congratulation.

    @iphone4duc@iphone4ducАй бұрын
  • Great advice and photos 👌

    @stigfloberghagenphotography@stigfloberghagenphotography2 ай бұрын
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    @larsmichael7162@larsmichael71622 ай бұрын
  • Great advices !!!

    @davidsb9599@davidsb95992 ай бұрын
  • Great explained - good video 😎👍

    @BushcraftOst@BushcraftOst2 ай бұрын
  • I agree. Mistakes in landscape photography are normal, but to overcome them, I feel that I need experience and learning.

    @huulongphotography@huulongphotography2 ай бұрын
  • Excellent peter

    @rickredfern2647@rickredfern2647Ай бұрын
  • I wish I could spend more time of location when traveling. I think this highlights the idea of taking some trips specifically for photography, rather than for tourism, which nearly always imposes limits on how much time can be spent on location. (Also, I have to say I actually appreciated the ad/info about SAAL photo books - I actually needed that!)

    @uncle0eric@uncle0eric2 ай бұрын
    • It's not only the time, also when you are not alone and your companions don't have the required patience

      @mauriciogarfield7122@mauriciogarfield71222 ай бұрын
  • With the photo shown at 1:15, I definitely prefer the more cropped-in version. It makes the trees seem taller and gives a feeling of them towering above the viewer. A more zoomed out version just feels like "pretty fog with birds".

    @Senki207@Senki2072 ай бұрын
    • I agree

      @charlesfinnie@charlesfinnie17 күн бұрын
  • Congratulations! I love your channel and just subscribed. I found it very interesting and would love to have my portfolio someday. Regarding one of the lenses on your list, the Tamron 28-200 f/2.8-5.6, I know it must be a typical question, but can I ask if it works well on an APSC camera, the Sony Zv-e10? I have the Tamron 17-70 f2.8, but I need more zoom and still need to decide which lens to buy. Thanks

    @lucasviotti3583@lucasviotti3583Ай бұрын
  • Interesting video. Keeping the camera bag packed piqued my ears. I can't leave any lenses out here as we live in a very damp environment here in our part of the South West UK. I have lost thousands of pounds worth of L series Canon lenses and even telescopes (another hobby) to invasive lens mould. My lenses all now live in a lens dehumidifier cabinet, and I only take them out when I need them. So each trip out means packing a camera bag, then unpacking again afterwards to get them back into the lens dehumidifier cabinet.

    @combatwombat71@combatwombat712 ай бұрын
  • Great video, thank you for sharing! Where is the location of shot at 0:35?

    @dionisiosmelogiannidis5350@dionisiosmelogiannidis53502 ай бұрын
  • What type of backpack or camera bag do you use Mads? Love your work!

    @paulgraff6347@paulgraff63472 ай бұрын
  • Bravo! Great tips! You can bring a camera, but you better bring a photographer too.

    @mikeray4902@mikeray49022 ай бұрын
  • Hi, Great Video and beautiful places, Where !!

    @binomair9326@binomair93262 ай бұрын
  • Your comment about editing is spot on and i will go as far as saying regardless of the file format you shoot in raw or jpeg editing is a must to get the best out of your photo files. You can make many in camera settings to do away with processing but if you shoot a wide variety of subjects in different situations and lighting and you use jpeg files set your camera to the nuteral settings with as little sharpening as your camera will allow and make your final adjustments on your computer where you have a larger screen to view your photos and a greater range of adjustments can be made. I compare photography to baking a cake, post processing is the frosting and decorating of the cake, you can eat and cake when it comes out of the oven but it looks and tastes better frosted.

    @jamesmlodynia8757@jamesmlodynia87572 ай бұрын
  • 1:18 Beautiful shot!

    @carlstawicki1915@carlstawicki19152 ай бұрын
  • for that second shot with the ducks on the lake, i think the wider version was a BIT too wide, but just my preference. great tips overall.

    @StevenDavisPhoto@StevenDavisPhoto2 ай бұрын
  • No way! I was just about to print a Saal Digital book anyway so you just saved me somme money

    @the-secrettutorials@the-secrettutorials20 күн бұрын
    • Awesome! Glad to hear! Wait until tomorrow and I'll release a video on printing and give a 50% discount with Saal :)

      @MadsPeterIversen@MadsPeterIversen20 күн бұрын
    • @@MadsPeterIversen 😍 This day keeps getting better and better

      @the-secrettutorials@the-secrettutorials20 күн бұрын
  • I agree with Peter. Unless there are special reasons for research or measurement, most photos taken for ornamental, advertising, or entertainment purposes are edited. Seeking aesthetics in unedited photos is a free choice for each individual. However, it is absolutely wrong to request unedited photos from others or to claim that unedited photos are more legitimate than others. People who try to demonstrate the superiority and legitimacy of photography by not editing it are turning the means of taking photographs into an end. I feel that imposing such ideas on others should be condemned as a very selfish and arrogant act that deprives many people of the joy of taking photographs. People who demand that photos not be edited are the Gestapo of the photography world. I am Japanese. Meticulousness is one of the typical characteristics of Japanese people. I feel that there are many photographers in Japan who exhibit an abnormal obsession and belief in unedited photos and natural color tones, as this characteristic works in a negative direction. And I find this trend extremely distasteful. Even in the film era, there were many editing, processing, and expression methods used after shooting. But why are there so many people who hate processing on PCs in the digital age? I feel that such people simply have not adapted to the times and technology. This is because the image displayed on the digital camera screen has already been processed by the camera. I feel that the claim that RAW is legitimate is just nonsense from people who want to complicate the discussion. We humans can claim freedom as long as we do not infringe on the rights of others. And my photos are also freedom.

    @hotcoffee5555@hotcoffee5555Ай бұрын
  • Excellent ❤ As for using tripods it is a must for me due to a back injury. Camera house + lens + filter(s) becomes too heavy many times for me. I keep my package as light as possible as well, i e one lens only 😊. I do believe we overwork the "rule" of foreground, midground and background 😉

    @dennismwallentin296@dennismwallentin2962 ай бұрын
    • I would say that anytime you can use a tripod you should. Not only does it always make a better image especially if you are using film with a much lower ISO in most cases but it forces you to slow down and take more time composing the image.

      @damons6759@damons67592 ай бұрын
    • @@damons6759 Spot on!

      @dennismwallentin296@dennismwallentin2962 ай бұрын
  • I edit my photography,take the lines around the clouds ,when you take the photo without editing You cant see the lined edges of clouds ,Edited does make the line shapes stand out ,Cameras dont exactly see a image like our eyes ,but with the help of editing it really does make your photo more real

    @Newtredegarhistory@Newtredegarhistory14 күн бұрын
  • That second picture with the church and the Stone. I'd probably cut it somewhere in the middle of the water. And bring the Stone closer to the church, so the whole picture can be tighter without losing the stone. Should be pretty easy and seamless to blend the water. With all this in mind, I probably take 2 separate photos. One closer on the church and the second one with the rock to be added to the first one.

    @geniferteal4178@geniferteal4178Ай бұрын
  • Yes, If ever saw Ansel Adam's negatives and the final print you' be shocked! You gotta edit your "raw" images. Adams wrote pages (notebooks) on how to print his negatives.

    @MrJupton1@MrJupton12 ай бұрын
  • Great tips. Do you raise the exposure much for the Saal photobooks? I got my first done but didnt change them for the book and they were a little dark

    @BruceWayne-hf7zw@BruceWayne-hf7zw2 ай бұрын
    • Nope, don't change them at all, but I do make sure to edit my photos on a white background in Photoshop or CameraRaw. Or at least check them on a white background :)

      @MadsPeterIversen@MadsPeterIversen2 ай бұрын
  • Wow !!! Outstanding advice and tips. Especially " If in doubt, zoom out " Thanks so much.

    @paulseymour7485@paulseymour74852 ай бұрын
  • Very sad that SAAL doesn’t send to Portugal where I live.

    @davesvarte@davesvarte2 ай бұрын
  • I'm not sure about the rz67, but the rb67 doesn't have an internal light meter.

    @jthorn5782@jthorn578219 күн бұрын
  • With the tree in the snow, I like how empty the space is. I don't think the snowman mound in the foreground adds to the photo I would crop at A. Reasonable amount and leave it just baron snow and the tree.

    @geniferteal4178@geniferteal4178Ай бұрын
  • Yes ALL is a big word..maybe some..maybe most..

    @kilroy691able@kilroy691able2 күн бұрын
  • Peter, you are my favorite photographer. I really like your humility. Saying "bleh" to your own photos makes you the real and true professional in this field. God bless you!

    @TheXone7@TheXone72 ай бұрын
  • Funny thing is I prefer the beginner photo on your thumbnail 😅

    @stuartmarsden4142@stuartmarsden41422 ай бұрын
    • I thought I was the only one.

      @chrishughes3206@chrishughes32062 ай бұрын
  • Mads! I have a question for you: At 13:20 in the video, how did you work out where to stand so that your silhouette would be perfectly framed? The distance and position might be hard to judge from where the camera is.

    @cina9218@cina92182 ай бұрын
    • I did it several times and got lucky for this specific one :p

      @MadsPeterIversen@MadsPeterIversen2 ай бұрын
    • @MadsPeterIversen Aha! Thats the secret sauce. Thanks for the tip

      @cina9218@cina92182 ай бұрын
  • Each of these points are excellent advice, indeed. Well stated without being over-the-top (thanks). I have to laugh when I see the comments from the SOOC snobs (much like the pixel-peepers), for if that's what makes theeem happy, that's fine. If I wanted to do that, I'd simply shoot .jpegs and pray for the best, of course (why have my .raw files if the "rules" say I will be shunned if I touch them? lol). I love editing, though I HAVE destroyed a lot of beautiful light over the years in Photoshop, I must admit (I've brought a few back from time to time to run through post-processing a decade or so later just to see how I envision things differently with new knowledge and skills) but, generally, I always use it to enhance. As for weather, blue skies are just as boring as slate-gray in many ways and getting out to roll the dice on weather-filled days is often what results in the most dramatic lighting and conditions, even if the "spotlights" through the clouds sometimes never highlight the subject of a particular image (I just have to laugh it off and roll the dice another day lol). Thanks for sharing this, for it is a parallel to things I see when I look back at my earliest images and the trends I experienced. :)

    @johnniewelbornjr.8940@johnniewelbornjr.89402 ай бұрын
  • All good common sense advice. Yes I am that person who turns up at my chosen location and realises that my sd card is still in the computer. As to over-editing, I think maybe you went a bit far with your "selfie"image on the beach, {I know its subjective but I think you got a little greedy with the amount of colour}. I liked the subtle pastel colours that the raw file captured.

    @paullavin5449@paullavin54492 ай бұрын
  • Great advice! Are you Agadmator’s handsome younger brother? 😂

    @RikMaxSpeed@RikMaxSpeed2 ай бұрын
  • You use A7RIII, but you recommend A7IV.? Or something with more Megapixels? (A7R IV /A7R V)

    @specialized41@specialized412 ай бұрын
    • I use the a7R5 now, I've made a couple of videos on it where I share my thoughts :)

      @MadsPeterIversen@MadsPeterIversen2 ай бұрын
  • If the photographer likes the result, it is not a mistake.

    @Ericbjohnston5150@Ericbjohnston51502 ай бұрын
  • Nice pic

    @Interlincinternatural@Interlincinternatural2 ай бұрын
  • No Discount for EU?

    @hugoparente1908@hugoparente19082 ай бұрын
  • I love the comment that RAW images unedited are not 'more representative of reality' than edited photos. Hashtags and comments like 'unfiltered' or 'nofilter' get a big rolleyes from me.

    @danielosborne8228@danielosborne82282 ай бұрын
  • 14:50 taken in Ireland?

    @johnmacbikerie@johnmacbikerie2 ай бұрын
    • Indeed it is :)

      @MadsPeterIversen@MadsPeterIversen2 ай бұрын
  • What is the name and link of the photobook?

    @suleymanereninonu1922@suleymanereninonu19222 ай бұрын
    • The link is in the description and the name is the Professional Line Photo Book :)

      @MadsPeterIversen@MadsPeterIversen2 ай бұрын
  • Annoying clouds seem to follow me. ha!

    @johnbragg2014@johnbragg20142 ай бұрын
  • Peter, I went to the SAAL website and got very confused about what they offer and how it works. So I abandoned them.

    @Bob4golf1@Bob4golf12 ай бұрын
  • Hey! I absolutely like most of your videos! And this is no exception. Love your tips and seeing you on spots I visited last year brings a smile on my face :). However - there is one thing that completely annoys me in your videos - and thats the amount of advertising. I know, you make a living from your courses and stuff but damn, every few minutes there is (sometimes a long) ad for your sponsor or your courses. I know why this is a thing but seeing all the other phtotographers out there making great videos and making maybe only one block of ads is way more enjoyable to watch.

    @farbenluxus1972@farbenluxus19722 ай бұрын
  • hvor bor du lige?? har ik set sådan noget i danmark

    @WilladsAndreasen@WilladsAndreasen28 күн бұрын
  • whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat 9:41

    @pat_unit@pat_unit2 ай бұрын
  • Editing photos is like adding salt and pepper to a dish...some people put a dash..some people shake 2lbs of salt...

    @ceezfotography@ceezfotography2 ай бұрын
  • When the beginner is better than the pro? Thumbnail! The beginner understands the colors and the pro has a ND filter!

    @nrv8013@nrv80132 ай бұрын
  • The not editing is funny, I always try to get them to match as close to what I see in reality as possible.

    @geekshiketoo@geekshiketooАй бұрын
  • All?

    @davewilliamson7030@davewilliamson70302 ай бұрын
  • I am not sure that all photographers make these mistakes.

    @timothybarkley8609@timothybarkley860911 күн бұрын
    • ALL OF THEM! 😉

      @videotours2023@videotours20239 сағат бұрын
  • Number 1. Watching youtube hahahahaha

    @dons_trains@dons_trains2 ай бұрын
  • Just had to sit through 1 two minute add followed by two 1 min adds all without a skip. Are you aware that YT has done this?

    @tomhudd8149@tomhudd8149Ай бұрын
    • I know they keep changing their ad system and it's generally also why I don't put mid-roll ads. I have KZhead premium myself because I spend so much time on the platform it makes sense to me not having to spend time on ads.

      @MadsPeterIversen@MadsPeterIversenАй бұрын
  • A denmarkian accent.

    @RogerRennie@RogerRennie21 күн бұрын
  • I assume every pro landscape shooter or enthusiast edits. Who thinks raw is reality? LOL Why is reality your goal anyway? It should be beautiful images.

    @thekeywitness@thekeywitness2 ай бұрын
  • Mads, I have been watching your channel for some years now. Why are you always talking about mistakes? Just because these are your mistakes, does not mean that we, you audience, are making them or that we need your guidance to avoid them. BTW, photography is not a profession, it's a TRADE. Use a dictionary.

    @photobobo@photobobo2 ай бұрын
    • Are you mentally ill? This response is very unhinged. There is a better way of saying this, you sound bitter and lonely.

      @toddysurcharge771@toddysurcharge7712 ай бұрын
    • Your life has to be super boring.

      @ynkkruse@ynkkruse2 ай бұрын
    • Bobo /ˈbəʊbəʊ/ nounINFORMAL a person having both the values of the counterculture of the 1960s and the materialism of the 1980s; a bourgeois Bohemian. "Bobo culture"

      @Tbonyandsteak@Tbonyandsteak2 ай бұрын
    • If you make no mistakes, why did you select this video?

      @PrebenMunter@PrebenMunter2 ай бұрын
    • Stress are major reason for mistakes

      @Tbonyandsteak@Tbonyandsteak2 ай бұрын
  • めっちゃ為になる 日本の自称プロたちとの解説全然違う ありがとうございます

    @kusojinsei@kusojinseiАй бұрын
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