#StarWars #Disney #SequelTrilogy
The Disney Sequel Trilogy feels... well, pretty different than the movies that came before it. But what, exactly, has changed?
00:00 Intro
00:58 The Force Awakens
09:17 The Last Jedi
16:44 Rise of Skywalker
23:06 Conclusion
J.J. Abrams tells how "The Force Awakens" will feel like original Star Wars trilogy
• J.J. Abrams tells how ...
George Lucas on Disney's Sequel Trilogy
• George Lucas on Disney...
The Incredible Invisible Practical Effects Miniatures Used to Create the Star Wars Prequels
www.slashfilm.com/532045/star...
The Mythology of Star Wars (with Bill Moyers):
• The Mythology of Star ...
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"A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." -George Lucas.
Precisely
"Again, it's like poetry.. it rhymes." -George Lucas
Y’all be right on money
Kinda ironic lol
It's funny how lucas said that and gave us prequels
In their struggle to put down the prequels, they managed to put them in a much better light.
"Ironic, they could save others from death. But not themselves"
@@katakesh8566 In the immortal words of Shakespeare: "I like thy wit well, i'faith."
The prequels were always good. If you only like the prequels because the sequels were bad than you’re a scumbag IMO
@@kayzeazaI always loved the prequels.. but I' m also a scumbag for other unrelated reasons :)
@@andrewchrsame Because it's a simple Anakin dies and Vader comes story
I still cannot believe that Luke, Han, and Leia never had a scene altogether in this entire trilogy
All by DIS design. Horribly written woke and feminazi films.
What a huge missed chance 😢
Not even as force ghosts
That's because the only reason they were there was to be gotten rid of for the new characters to leech legitimacy off of them. They were literal shells of their former characters and not just because the actors were 30+ years older.
This trilogy was the biggest ball drop in cinema history by a long shot. Just so embarrassing on Disney‘s part. Everyone and their grandma was seated in the theater for TFA. Fucking fumbled.
JJ : somehow palpatine has a huge fleet of manned warships buried beneath the ice because he just does. Lucas: Palpatine has a large fleet of warships and a grand army because he spent a decade setting up cloning , and creating an artificial conflict to get the senate to put the republic on a wartime footing to pump out weapons, and ships
Ironically the old Legends novels that were the original sequels put even more detail into Palpatine's return than there was in Palpatine's rise, so much so that I actually thought your comment was about that until I noticed that the second half was from George Lucas abd not the Legends novelists because his return heavily involved cloning and other similar details
i love that other creators have to use their own shows (mandalorian s3, the bad batch) have to take up their own time to show all the cloning bs in order to retroactively explain one singular awful decision in rots
@@bomes2084 *tros, not rots
"Somehow, Palpatine has returned" This sentence will be used as a bad example in writing classes for decades to come
Alongside “A good question - for another time” And then they don’t answer the question at any time.
@@Imlaor25 And to think somebody actually okayed all this!
It’s honestly unbelievable how bad this dialogue is.
Remember, the way audiences were first told Palpatine was back prior to the opening scrawl of Episode 9, was the Fortnite crossover event.
@@EFCkingTom Exactly. I wish we'd had George's real sequels.
The sequels did one thing right. They made the majority of star wars fans greatly appreciate the prequels!
the seuqls made it clear that kids who grew up with the prequels will now overpraise the prequels (the preuqls had some good elements but they were also not good). the sequels are also bad but for different reasons
The prequels are good but had some bad elements. Don’t get it mixed up boomer ;)
@@KLXz17 Exactly. This man knows what he's talking about.
@@KLXz17 i like all the star wars if im being real
@@KLXz17 the prequels are more like dumb fun than they are interesting as the og trilogy is don't get me wrong, both are good, but the prequels let you just watch the film and enjoy, you don't need to explain to the other guys in the room who these guys are or what their plan is. all you need to know is the guy with the beard and the guy with long hair are friends and you'll have just as much fun as the person who knows everything about star wars lore
Turns out that Lucas’ biggest mistake with the prequels was overestimating the audience
All three movies still made preatty good profit anyway, so I dont see how he overestimate the audience, while making the prequal triology movies.
I don't even remember people whining about the prequels until reddit letter media made those comedy criticism videos
Well, that and an overreliance on CGI
Actually the prequels used more practical effects than the OT, they were just digitally enhanced and modified later. @@Headless_Bill
@@jout738 more like the audience was way too harsh on him, I do feel like that particular portion of that audience were the ones that got what they deserved once the sequel trilogy became a thing. To me, maybe it is time to try to grow up.
It’s funny how everybody hated “how political the prequels were” but they forget that in literally the first scene of A New Hope leia lies to darth vader about telling him that she is an imperial senator in a diplomatic mission to alderan and doesn’t know about any plans and gets imprisoned. That is literally how we meet one of the main characters
It's funny how people don't understand the difference between the coolest looking bad guy in movie history talking to a beautiful space princess is different from a bunch of people you have no background on taking in a circle. Even the Empire scenes had literal space Nazis and easy to follow.
@@newironside Speak for yourself. PM had a very understandable political plotline, even for kids. I was about 11 when I watched it, and Padme's first Senate address and her vote of no confidence to Valorum are one of the scenes I remember most vividly from that first time watching. Adult characters explained everything to little Anakin and childlike Jar Jar, so it was easy to follow.
@@TheSoundonly12Ep 2 is so boring to kids I saw a screening gerting shut down as all the kids started to speak instead of watching the film
@@roberth4395 well, AoC is arguably the most complicated, byzantine and clever film of them all. Most of the adults don't get it :D But I enjoyed it immensely as a 12 year old. Still remember watching that 3D car chase for the 1st time, the battle, Anakin and Padme's battle flirting, Yoda vs Duku and many other things. Shmi's death haunted me. Boba Fett in the OT completely slipped my mind after watching it as a kid, but I'll always remember the moment when little Boba touches his dad's helmet to his forehead. And I remember my confusion at the end, "the good guys won, why do I feel like they lost?" It wasn't a lighthearted adventure (it was never meant to be), but I still had a lot of fun even that young. Only Lord of the Rings could compete as a cinema experience at the time, and I was a hardcore fan.
No where in that movie was a scene where they had a drawn out debate about differing a motion. The politics were background and there to add color to the story. In the prequels, the politics at up considerable screen time and were pretty dumb.
This video has more planning put into its plot than this trilogy had.
Me making a sandwich has more planning than that clusterfuck had.
@@singletona082 Hahahahahahaah well said.
what's you profile picture?
I can only imagine what this trilogy would have been if JJ Abrams never fucking touched it. Rian could have made a great trilogy, it would still have been very controversial but it would have been a real trilogy.
Man that's very true
- Palpatine was't killed -The Empire wasn't destroyed -Luke didn't bring back the jedi order -Han Solo left Leia and return to be a criminal - The New Republic was a failure that a group of neonazis ended in a week -Anakin didn't bring balance to the force. The sequel triology made pointless the original triology, the characters and universe didn't chance from episode IV to IX.
Exactly! Abrams and Johnson don’t understand the arch of Star Wars, that it was ANAKIN’S story of bringing balance to the force and making the galaxy peaceful again
There needs to be a love button because you hit the nail on the head.
Not to mention -Force Healing was a light-side power all along, making Anakin's fall to the dark an even worse failing than it already was
One thing was acheived: Luke brought Anakin back to the light side. But whatever, I don’t see the Sequels as canon. 1-6 is the Skywalker saga.
@@joshuaplumb9213 sorry but the most accurate way of thinking about it is, the skywalker family, bringing balance to the force.
Its crazy how much JJ thought he was the panacea of all things star wars. Straight up believed he knew star wars better than its own creator
The guy is a narcissist and tried to make Star Wars HIS. He undid everything the Lucas characters like Luke, Leia, Vader accomplished and handed it to his OC. Oh no its really REY who restores the jedi and killed Palpatine!
Which is why I refer to the sequels as terrible fanfics. Cause that's really what it is.@@ergob3907
@@ergob3907 MaRey SuUue is actually Darth Kennedy's self-insert OC, not Abrams'.
Sums up all the irrational prequel haters.
@@Aethuviel. Indeed.😂
Nobody ever mentions how 99% of the alien races featured in the sequels were new species created by Disney. They pretty much abandoned the rich & diverse cultures created by Lucas. Despite the familiar actors & props, it never really felt like the Star Wars to me because it was all so foreign. I get why Marcia Lucas cried after watching TFA.
Worse yet,those new aliens felt more like they existed to sell merch, It's like they saw that over the years nearly every background character from the 2 trilogies had been fleshed out and slapped on a toy box so they wanted hundreds of background characters to sell to the audiences while being half as interesting
@@technounionrepresentative4274 that cantina scene in Force Awakens is depressing as hell.
She cried after watching the phantom menace
Not helped by them all following the same type of designed they’re all earth toned squinty eyes creatures.
Honestly I'm still just stunned that Disney, the largest media conglomerate in history, decided to make a new trilogy of Star Wars, arguably the biggest film franchise in history, without having any overarching plan for what the story would be.
Mind blowing isn’t it? And insulting to Lucas and the fans too. They obviously just assumed they could just wave nostalgia in the faces of the audience, and make it up as they go along, and the films would be well received. The worst part of it is they only had one chance of doing this, and they completely bellyflopped. Now I’ll admit, whilst I loathe TROS, I enjoyed TFA and liked TLJ, but I don’t think these movies should be considered canon, since TROS ruined a lot of what the two films set up, as well as the entire Saga. So
It’s because they left it in the hands of someone who had no plan, only agendas
Honestly, I think they had a plan in TFA. But a dangerous Ryan Johnson appears...
@@persona83 TFA was too much of a story thread mess so I don't fault Rian too much for trashing it.
@@virgogaming6488 I agree TFA was a mess. However, it did lay down enough of a foundation and a plot to make the next movie great if left in the right hands. Then Rian came in and completely destroyed everything the first movie laid out and ignored much of what the first movie established. So i fault rian for such a horrible sequel.
It is more entertaining and mentally stimulating to watch criticism of the sequel trilogy than it is to watch the actual movies.
Boom
he made no valid critcisms though
I've lost count of how many times I've watched the prequels and Original Trilogy. I watch clips on YT of individual scenes all the time. I watched each sequel 1 time...in the theater and haven't watched them again since.
True ! C'est vrai !
Ture. I enjoy very much every videos that destroy these movies haha
19:34 the funniest thing about the scene with rey holding the dagger and saying horrible things were done with it and all the while shes holding the youngling slayer 3000, also that part with the snake making a hole for them felt like some 2005 video game trope where you finish the objective and through that you make the way free to continue 😂😂
in fairness the dagger was used to kill *her* parents, and she doesn’t have any connection to those younglings. I give the movie a pass on that.
@@connerclark3678seriously?? I don't remember that at all lmao
Youngling Slayer 3000 😂😂😂
The fact that people don’t like the concept of Politics in a franchise called Star WARS genuinely baffles me! War and Politics are very interconnected (and that’s putting it lightly).
Especially when you wonder how the Emperor's rise of power came about, when you watch it the second or thrid time through as an adult you're amazed at how this one man took control of an entire galaxy and abolish all its hope in just 2 decades. Really get to appreciate how terribly evil+powerful this mastermind of masterminds is.
It's not like the Original Trilogy wasn't political either. ANH = Leia's on a diplomatic mission to bring Obi-Wan back with her, The Imperial Senate is disbanded, freedom fighters are fighting an Empire, and a superweapon must be stopped. TESB = Lando has union and supply problems. ROTJ = Gangsters from a lawless part of the galaxy. Star Wars has always been political.
People like politics in Star Wars. Andor is proof of that. It just needed to be better than it was.
"War is merely the continuation of politics by other means." --_On War,_ by Prussian General Carl von Clauswitz c. 1820
@@BetaDude40, I also wanted to adduce this statement of his😅. The guy was a genious, he was colonel in russian army (in 1812-1813 and took part in a battle of Borodino, and Napoleon's downfall) & major general in prussian (the rest of his life). Not so many people have military orders from 4 states at once (From Prussia, from Russia, from Sweden & from Austria).
JJ Abrams - "It's not a nostalgia trip" Almost busted a gut laughing at the lack of self awareness of that statement.
You give Abrams too much credit; he was straight up lying.
He was anti-truth. Nostalgia is the ONLY thing this trilogy will be remembered for (I hope.) RIP Peter Mayhew, Carrie Fisher, Kenny Baker.
funny how the whole trilogy just trips over nostalgia haha
@@ShizaruBloodrayne and then literally killing it with each movie killing 1 of the original protagonists...
Everything J.J.or one of his minions touches will turn to crap.
It's ironic that in an attempt to make people forget about the Prequels, they made Star Wars fans appreciate them even more, because, at least they're not THIS.
Bad take. You should hate them all. Trash writing is trash writing. Its like saying you like logs of shit on your face because it is better than diaherra, it's all still shit.
@@EricHamm here's another
@@EricHamm I will always respect bad movies with a creative vision more than bad movies churned out by people who don't care. It makes a big difference.
People always appreciated them, they are the most Star Wars esq movies. They just get railed cuz of the poor acting and dialogue.
Also So Uncivilized's video on George Lucas: King of Wooden Dialogue does good for it.
The scene watching Luke just toss his lightsaber over his shoulder and off a Cliff is just absolute sacrilege to Star Wars as a whole. It absolutely kills me watching it.
I was SO PISSED when he did that.
i left the movie theatre right after that scene @@blisshyatt6350
What R. Johnson did with Luke’s character was a travesty!!
IIRC it's not even the one he built for himself - that thing he just tossed over his shoulder _was his father's lightsaber,_ a memento of when Anakin was still a good person. And he throws it away.
@@JRexRegis I mean, to be fair, it really meant nothing to him story wise. It was a memento to someone but he had no lingering attachment anymore. ..Nor should he have.
I am SO glad you touched on how BAD they absolutely disrespected the character of HAN SOLO. Man growing up that was the dude, they did nothing but race to kill him off.
he did kind of want to be killed off lol
Ep 1. Children's Fantasy Ep 2. Noir-ish Political Mystery Ep 3. Apocalyptic Opera Ep 4. Serial Adventure Ep 5. Dreamlike Tragedy Ep 6. Classical Morality Play Ep 7. Nostalgia Bait Ep 8. Middle Finger🖕 Ep 9. "Somehow Palpatine returned."
Somehow @thedoctot2871's Mom returned
unironically yes
It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, The Phantom Menace is probably the best movie for children. They are obviously gonna zone out during Sheev's schemes on Coruscant, so did I back in the days. 3 years later he was quickly becoming my favourite character and has remained so ever since. Anyway, TPM is a bit unbalanced like that, while you certainly grow out of certain aspects there are others who speak more to a mature audience. The Empire Strikes Back, on the other hand, is more like a horror movie when you are young. But it's the one that I have come to appreciate the most. I could go on for all of them but it would become a book, I feel like you hit the nail. Especially with Middle Finger, that's the only movie where I considered leaving the movie theater.
Imagine not only having access to George Lucas, but also throwing out his already written plans for Ep 7-9 because you think you can do it better than the actual creator. Actual clowns at Disney.
Perhaps they looked at the terrible scripts he had just turned into terrible prequels. Try to remember NO ONE liked those films when they were released, and Lucas was seen as a laughing stock who had ruined his own creation.
@@ZeroFilmClips Plenty of people liked the prequels. To say literally no one liked them is crazy. Regardless there's a difference between the original creator doing something fans don't like and a giant corporation like Disney buying it and ruining the IP.
@@Ncella91 That is simply not the case. Upon release, they were viewed as a disaster, not just by hard-core Star Wars fans, but by the general movie-going public. It was genuinely rare to find someone who claimed to like them. When The Force Awakens was released it was broadly liked, and Star Wars was seen as being 'saved' from Lucas, with lots "Star Wars is back!" type headlines. Although the following films have split the fans, I doubt casual movie-goers are even aware that the sequels are so hated by a section of the fans. The Last Jedi, clearly the most divisive film, has always had a great many passionate defenders in the way the prequels never had. Some may find it useful to forget how the prequels, and Lucas, were viewed. and to conveniently forget how much of a disaster the prequels were, but it won't wash. Lucas was seen as a liability who had ruined his creation with three awful films. Later, Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull only diminished his reputation even further. Remember, Lucas sold Lucasfilm for a reason. "Why should I continue? The fans are so mean!".
Imagine having access to the original core cast as well, and never getting them all in the same room again. I mean... For a company that definitely tried to cash in on this, boy, that was a seriously missed opportunity. Hell, they could have just assassinated all their characters simultaneously then. Saved themselves some time. Just throw the old cast on a mission together, fail it, then have the young ones come in as do it. Or better, do it while saving the old ones, with plenty of insults along the way. This is the Disney way.
@@ZeroFilmClips nobody viewed them as disasters. Where are you even getting that idiotic perspective. At the time, a few people groaned about the kiddish stuff in episode 1. That's about it.
Luke going into hiding. One of the main characters being a defected stormtrooper. The whole history and purpose of the Knights of Ren. JJ has a real talent for coming up with interesting ideas and then failing to follow through with them.
Finn being a defected stormtrooper could've straight up been the backbone of an entire trilogy, dealing with the fact that these faceless goons are real people too, people who may experience redemption as well.
easily my favorite aspect of the force awakens that never got elaborated on
@@milesbrown2261 It was pretty much the only original plot point they had, and then they went and did absolutely nothing with it.
Finn had so much potential and I hate how much he was squandered because people wanted Reylo
@@josephgrube Unironically, Finn should've been the Jedi one, while Rey remains the scrappy streetwise han solo type but without the ship or the omnipresent connections.
Honestly this is my favorite critique of the sequel trilogy. The calm and tranquility of critiquing and calling out the arrogant of Disney and the directors was cathartic to me and sums up what really bother me.
The part about the Last Jedi that disappoints me the most is the thesis about "anyone can be a Jedi, not just Skywalkers" as if that wasn't the literal point of Yoda in Empire Strikes Back. Luke is expecting a macho warrior Jedi master and finds out the wisest Jedi is a green muppet.
It gets worse, in the prequels we literally saw hundreds of Jedi that weren’t Skywalkers, and they were relevant too.
I wasn't a Skywalker and I was literally the first Jedi ever seen onscreen. Star Wars has never been about your bloodline defining your Force ability. The Skywalker bloodline did give them more power in general but that never meant they were the only being who could use the Force, most of the Jedi and Sith we see in the films are not Skywalker and the Last Jedi started out with an untrue assumption that who you are related to is the main point of Star Wars. It thinks it's being revolutionary by showing Rey or that Boom Kid use the Force when that thesis of anyone an be a Jedi has literally been in Star Wars since it's first movie over 40 years ago. Family is critical in Star Wars or course but that's because a key theme of the saga has always been family, but family never dictated who was a Jedi. The only reason the "Skywalkers" mattered is becasue the story was focused on a family exploring family relationships. And to once again drive home the point, I, Yoda, Darth Sidious, Count Dooku, Darth Maul, Mace Windu, etc were all extremely strong Force users but it was *never* the assumption that we had to be related the Skywalkers to be good Jedi or important to the story. The only people who though the Last Jedi was revolutionary were the people who weren't paying attention.
@BK Beatty if you were "ating" me, then sure!
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi This is because Disney stuff isn't based around the films, but how people remember the film's hence all the importance they put on Luke's lightsaber , it was just a prop in the original film's 'your father's lightsaber' was more an excuse as to why Obi-wan had a spare one lying around rather than any bestowing of a nobel lineage age, but in the sequels so much importance is placed on the saber just because it's what we recognise
arguably the strongest thing of value TLJ had and it was retconned in the next movie. i like tlj, but i understand why people didnt and tros only made it worse... they couldve done anything in the galaxy and they chose the laziest options that ruined the two movies it was trying to follow up on
Somehow… Palpatine returned. Somehow… Rey can defeat literally anyone, despite only discovering the Force literally three days earlier. Somehow… Rey repaired Anakin’s lightsaber, even though it had been torn in half and then completely blown up as the Supremacy was destroyed. Somehow… The Force Heal ability was never used by any Jedi, not even Anakin to save Padme or Obi-Wan to save Qui Gon, before Rey used it to save an enemy that had killed his own father before her eyes. Somehow… The Death Star wreckage is on a random ocean planet, mostly intact and left untouched by scavengers, even though it should’ve crashed on Endor and should’ve been completely destroyed by the explosion. Somehow... Hyperspace is a weapon of mass destruction, which had never been used as a weapon until Holdo came up with it, even literal eons after it’s creation. Somehow… No one has crashed into something, literally anything, whilst flying in Hyperspace before Holdo did. Somehow… Force Ghosts can interact with the physical world, yet they have never once tried to help the Jedi in battle. Somehow… People were paid to write this trilogy.
Somehow… anakin’s saber is there
Somehow... Rey and Kylo can teleport stuff
@@masterdeetectiv9520 it belongs in a museum
@@heintz256 and in this exhibit you can see Anakin Skywalker's lightsaber named "Youngling Slayer 9000"
Somehow... the Force can now revive people
All the kids who grew up with the prequels being their first exposure to Star Wars love them. It's the older generations who didn't like them. That's what a lot of people don't realize.
Fans: why did you not follow George Lucas’s sequel plan that he laid out for you??? Especially when it’s clearly a better story! Disney: A good question, for another time.
When I first saw The Force Awakens I was in Minsk and that line in Russian was «Эта долга история» or “It’s a long story” - which made sense given there’s a battle raging. I was like “Coo! We’ll circle back and get new info on Maz and even the Empire/Vader (which took over Cloud City). When I saw it in English, “A good question for another time” made my face scrunch up weird. It felt so forced (pun not intended), I stopped thinking about the story and felt JJ lecturing the audience, via Max to ignore a valid question and let the let the shiny object bait their nostalgia. While typing this, I realized that making the saber Luke’s had zero effect on the story. It could have been Coleman Trebor’s. Kylo Ren still wants to fight Finn and Rey in 7, Luke still doesn’t want to be a Jedi in 8, and Rey still teleports it to Ben in 9. And we’d still have no clue how Maz got it.
Because they didn't want to. They lied when they bought Lucasfilm. They laid their hands on this just to use it spreading their agenda.
It's worth noting that this was during the early to mid-2010s, when Lucas and PT bashing was at it's peak. I remember how many of the more vocal fans at the time lauded Disney and Abrams for discarding Lucas' sequel treatments, and some even relished the idea of them de-canonizing the prequels. Not that I ever felt that way myself.
This video isn’t anti-Star Wars, it’s anti-sequel trilogy and honestly that makes this video extremely pro-Star Wars.
So much yes!!
Stop calling it the “sequel” trilogy. They are NOT sequels! True sequels build on previous installments, instead of ruining them.
@@JH-wi2xr The Disney Trilogy.
@@JH-wi2xr That’s why I call it Disney’s Sequel trilogy or Disney’s Sequels. It’s separate from Lucas’s Saga in my mind.
@@megaman37456 There you go
The amount of Prequel slander said by JJ was frankly detestable.
It was okay to slander it bc majority people hated it until last Jedi a whole 180 happen . They was prob so scared to mention prequels cuz the fans lmao until they realized the ones that liked it grew up and animated series saved it as well
I mean, the sequels are terrible, but that doesn't make the prequels good. Phantom Menace is an awful movie that alternates between boring and irritating. Attack of the Clones is mediocre, with boring politicking and a cringe-worthy romance. Revenge of the Sith is the only film in the trilogy I consider to be decent, but I honestly skip all the scenes Padme is in. In all three movies, there's too much wooden dialogue and the characters have no personality. Compare with the original trilogy, where every single character had an interesting personality.
@@stevej71393I disagree and Padme is one of my favorite characters but you are entitled to you opinions and arguing over it is childlike
Its funny how JJ Ambrams slams prequal triology, when atleast the prequal triology had great plot in it, while George Lucas needed bit help with directing the actors he didnt get that much at all, but JJ Abrams movies lack any plot or movie story coclusion at all, so of course he is jealous and bash on movie, that is able to have plot, because Abrams is so bad himself in creating movie plot, when he only likes to make cool seens in his movies.
@@stevej71393 beautiful
I am truly unable to fathom that no higher-ups at Disney were able to look at the scripts for TLJ and TROS and notice that they do not possess stories.
You don't know the corporate world
@@jacquesmalan5950 I’m assuming that they’ve watched a movie before and at least know when they’re having fun.
@@ModuliOfRiemannSurfacesnarcissists don't know how to put fun back into the world
"The Last Jedi is constantly fighting things. It's not just anti-force awakens, it's anti-meat, it's anti-war, it's ANTI-POE!" I'm dying over here haha XD.
The text said "Anti-Men" for a second there. He knows what's up.
Fans: You are a trilogy, but we do not grant you the rank of canon. The Sequels: what? this is outrageous, it’s unfair. How can you be a trilogy, and not be canon? Fans: take a seat, Disney.
Young Disney
"Every Single Expanded Universe Article, including your friend, George Lucas, is now an ENEMY Of Star Wars!" -California, to Disney
Then Disney goes and murders some younglings
Disney bought Star Wars: the sequels are just as canon as the prequels are
@@reek4062 What sequels?
Rewatching the prequels made me realize the world-building it does for the original movies, such as “why the empire exist”, and “who really was Darth Vader?”, “How Darth Sidious became Emperor?” and expanded Jedi Lore. Civil Wars and Rebellions just don’t happen outta nowhere, there is politics involved that the prequels touches on it beautifully.
The Prequels basically explained the US political system or how it operates.
And the newer ones were like "well, they have a giant fleet because yes, fuck you."
It’s the Anti Hero’s Journey. Inverting the classic arc.
@@robertbruce7772 I would compare it to the fall of the Roman Republic and rise of the Roman Empire, and how Julius Caesar becomes emperor thru civil wars.
@@theLikou1 Bois lets hyperspace through the enemy fleet, so we can win the battle, because in hyperspace we go so fast, that we cant get any ship damage at all. Why you bois building new starkiller base, when just build multiple spaceships, that are able to hyperspace through planets to destroy it in there.
Star Wars: The Legionary Wars trilogy [Plot Outline] Episode I: _The Chosen One_ Over 1,000 years before The Phantom Menace.. As it begins there are no Jedi nor Sith, just force sensitives living in temples practicing midichlorianism. Subsequently. One of these 'force monks'; Alorod Sim the Wise of the temple on Koriban, creates a radicalized faction or 'force cult'. They build lazer swords to arm themselves (the first lightsabers) and proclaim themselves the 'Sith'. They then proceed in marauding bands of personalized star fighters/land speeders, commandeering starships and overtaking worlds', attempting to conquer the galaxy in the name of their beliefs and fulfill their Sith prophecy of supremacy over non-sensitives. 800 years have surpassed....[56 years prior. Sith Lords adopt the moniker 'Darth' to signify their rank.] The Sith have amassed a considerable territory. With thousands of outlying star systems now under their oppressive rule. Having recently overran the Doqhit system, after a tense battle with the Quitai army. The Sith led by Darth Sion dispatch a royal convoy headed for the Core worlds. They massacre its crews and take Princess Xenead hostage, demanding tribute from King Novis of Coruscant; leader of the Alliance of Sovereign Systems. Just returned from his final defeat of the Vong General Wibo. Novis incites his Spartan warriors to stand against Red Legion; an interplanetary confederacy allied with the Sith, led by the evil alien warlord Malik. The King gos to the Temple to consult Yaddle; the wisest of all force monks, about the fate of his daughter and his fortunes in battle. Yaddle then departs Coruscant on a peace mission to end a civil war between Wookie tribes and the Kashars on Kashyyyk. In the first major battle of the war. Malik's fleet is besieged by Alliance forces over Opelia, but the attack is thwarted by Red Legion. Malik vowing swift retaliation... In a pivotal event known as The Siege of Coruscant. The Sith storm the Temple, declaring its monks "Join us or die!". A troubled young orphan raised in the bowels of Coruscant (father killed in the Vong Wars) named Gandryth Malgus, defects and becomes a Sith acolyte. The Sith gain control of the Alliance capital. Forcing its dignitaries to take refuge on the mountainous world of Cedes; a heavily guarded military stronghold. On Cedes. The royal delegates convene in the Cedetian palace chambers. King Novis is declared Supreme Chancellor of the first Galactic Republic and pledges to reinforce its defenses after over a century of warfare with the Yuzhan Vong. Meanwhile, the surviving monks seek out the sacred Kyber crystals, build there own lightsabers, and begin training themselves in the art of swordsmanship under the guidance of the living force and mock battles with melee droids. Hence becoming the founders of the Jedi Order. Yaddle meets a force sensitive Alliance pilot named Talon Karade, who seeks to learn the ways of the force. Yaddle dubs him Padawan meaning 'student' in old Coru. [End ep1] [During the period between ep1 and ep2. Malgus kills Darth Krait to become the Sith Elect of Coruscant, and is dubbed Darth Nihilus. One of the most powerful Sith ever. Nihilus is said to have slain over 30,000 Republic and sum 62 Jedi.] Episode II: _Knights of the Old Republic_ 16 years on.. The once great King Novis has died and is entombed on Tarvel. The Jedi Knights find themselves in the midst of a Republic effort to re-take Coruscant in his honor. Overwhelmed during the fight, the Sith and Red Legion attempt a retreat. Yaddle gos to inspect the ruins of the Jedi Temple where he encounters Darth Nihilus and a duel ensues. Nihilus is wounded by a slash to the neck but narrowly escapes thanks to his starfighter's astromec droid T5-S. The tides now turned. The Jedi [Including Master's Rolin Vassis. Dia Jade. Lux Banter. Hodo'Na. Satile Mara & Eath Koth] set out behond the safety of Republic space, into the Sith dominated Outer Territories in pursuit of the Sithari (One Sith); who claims to be conceived by the midichlorians and is said to be immortal. Meanwhile, Yaddle would return to his home planet of Churwahi where he would be married to Tola; Queen of the Wahians. Now a competent force wielder. Talon Karade embarks on a solo mission to free the war prisoners of the Legionary slave ship _Vengeance_ . Using a confiscated Legion fighter, he gains access and frees the captives who take up arms against the remaining crew, before Karade encounters and defeats Legion Commander Thron . Exiting the ships hanger, Karade is intercepted by Darth Rage in his starfighter. After a brief dogfight, Karade is shot down on the nearby moon of Jantude 7. On its surface, Darth Rage is narrowly defeated by Karade in a clash of lightsabers. Stranded. Karade learns of the Sith world of Koriban and persuades a group of smugglers to take him there. Lightning breaks as Talon Karade and company rondevu at the gates of the Sith enclave in the Valley of the Dark Lords. Sensing a disturbance in the force. Darth Nihilus tells the Sithari to leave the planet before taking several acolytes to meet the Jedi. Nihilus himself is engaged by Jedi's Lux Banter & Satile Mara and who are both slain. This distraction allows Karade and Yaddle time to free Xenead and the rest of the Sithari's servants before making a dashing escape. Leaving the planets atmosphere, pursuing Sith fighters clash with the Republic's 88th Squadron as the legendary Battle of Koriban commences. Back on the surface, Darth Nihilus takes his L9 _Dagger_ battle speeder to assist Red Legion. The Jedi receive Medals of Valor from Xenead, who will succeed her father as Supreme Chancellor. Afterward, the Jedi knights gather to honor the passing of Satile Mara, Lux Banter, and others who's remains are ceremoniously burned in keeping with midichlorianist tradition. [ End ep 2] [During the period between Ep 2 and Ep 3. In revenge. Darth Nihilus would launch surprise attacks against Jedi Temples across the Galaxy (including Yavin 4). Massacring many Jedi, including renowned Jedi Masters Teo Vi Shan and Cin Drallig.] Episode III: _A Fallen Hero_ Republic forces led by General Leer are attempting to retake Vaknum; a metallic world overseen by the Sith Elect Darth Nemesis. In an event known as The Liberation of Vaknum. Republic infintry must locate and dismantle a self-detonation device before it melts the planet. During the fight, Yaddle manages to defeat both Acolytes trained under Nemesis, and finally Nemesis himself. On Vaknum, the Jedi discover Malik's design for a planet-sized superweapon and take them back to Coruscant. Meanwhile, Talon Karade and fellow Jedi Exar Koon are sent to the planet Saazish to investigate the assassination of a local Senator but the situation quickly escalates into an all out conflict. Known as the Saazite Rebellion. Amid the fighting, the Saazites release their God-beast Eneddra on the Republic, and its up to Karade and Koon to defeat him. Karade remarks "I have a bad feeling about this". During the Battle of Koriban, the Sith Temple was destroyed by Republic artillery. Forcing the Sith to relocate to Tyranus; one of the original 13 worlds of Red Legion. In response to the reliquishment of their Sith homeworld. An uprising occurs on Tyranus, but is ultimately put down by the Sithari and his loyalists. One of the leaders of this insurgency, Darth Bane, turns himself over to the Republic, promising the location of the Sithari in exchange for his pardon. A coalition of Jedi and Republic are sent to infiltrate the polar base on Tyranus but, anticipating an attack, are ambushed by Malik's fleet. An epic battle erupts. Its here that the Sithari would meet his end at the hands of Yaddle after an intense climactic lightsaber duel. Elsewhere, Talon Karade brazenly takes it apon himself to dismantle the shield generator onboard Malik's command ship _Assassin_ . Forseeing this, Darth Nihilus awaits him. Overpowered during the duel. Karade's arm is severed by Nihilus who, before finishing him foretells "A day will come when your Jedi Order will perish, and the Sithari his great name shall be redeemed" vvvmm!!"..Malik is destroyed along with his ship, and the last vestiges of Red Legion disappear into hyperspace. Later on. Darth Nihilus is seen returning to Tyranus to recover the Sithari's lightsaber. That which would become his most coveted possession. [End ep3] The Sithari slain and their prophecy broken, the Sith receed into exile for a millennia. A long lived Thridian, Darth Nihilus would encrypt the "Rule of Two" into the Sith holocron. 700 years later apon his death, Nihilus would apprentice a young Muun Jedi dubbed Darth Plagueis and pass on his knowledge of the Dark Side. (Palpatine would later assinate Plagueis in an attempt to claim the Sithari's lightsaber, after which the spirit of Darth Nihilus would take possession of him). The former unclaimed Sith territories (including Tatooine; a former orbital ship building hub of Red Legion) would be known for centuries as the Outer Rim. In the centuries that followed. The Jedi Knights would attempt to seek out the illusive Sith remnant to no avail. Yaddle profisizing the birth of a 'Chosen One' that would one day bring the force back into balance. Talon Karade for his heroic deeds is memorialized in the Jedi archives. Subsequently, Yaddle and his surviving confidants would found the first Jedi Council on Coruscant.100 years after the Battle of Tyranus, Tola would give birth to a son named Yoda. Genetic enhancement of soldiers would be outlawed, and the Republic would be without a proper military until the Clone Wars, relying heavily on the Jedi Order to maintain peace and justice in the Old Republic. *.8_,!9(;w/>5
Get some original names dude
Where did you FIND all this stuff?
I like the way they went into it shitting on the prequels, and ended up creating something so bad that people now revere the prequels.
The weirdness of George Lucas is what makes Star Wars what it is lol
Taking Lucas and his quirks and fixations out of Star Wars is like taking Gene Roddenberry and his quirks and fixations out of Star Trek, which also happened when Abrams got his childhood-ruining hands on it. Thank FUCK he wasn't brought on for Dune.
But DS9 is the best Star atrek show. And a show Roddenberry would have never approved if
@@TheSorrel Debatable. Plus while DS9 does deviate from the Roddenberry formula in many ways it still maintains certain quintessential Roddenberryisms, such as an intense focus on philosophical maters and literary references out the ass. It still has that running theme that the Final Frontier is just as much psychological as it is astronautical. Abrams abandoned all of the philosophical and psychological depth that made Star Trek Star Trek and turned it into The Avengers IN SPAAAAACE!
I'm not that into star trek but I always hear that Abrams ruined it somehow. What exactly happened there?
@@enlightenmentdoesntcomeeas5337 turned a thinky show with great dialogue (most of the time) into an action movie with screaming. The movies wouldnt waste 3 minutes on a courtroom, startrek would have an entire episode take place in one and have it be about what constitutes a sentient life form. Like yeah phaser battles happen, but it’s usually after diplomatic negotiations have fallen through. Not because adults are acting like emotional children. Personally im a TNG fan but trek is just fun as long as youre willing to not have a shootout every episode. Dont let me convince you its some intellectual powerhouse of a show, it just doesnt pretend its audience is full of drooling paste munching children.
Not having Luke, Leia and Han in the same shot again must be one of the dumbest choices ever made in cinema history.
It is on the same level as most of the decisions in Troll 2.
@@struttux5156 Yeah, or the Emoji movie…
You can thank Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy for that. Two absolutely useless people
They can't even do their fanservice right
I think you haven't met: J.J. -the franchise killer- Abrams. Because he's the GOAT on that.
I really appreciate how George Lucas made all his Star Wars films very different from each other. Thank you for pointing that out.
The best thing the sequel trilogy did was it made many fans of the trilogy go back and watch the original movies and realize then just how inferior the sequel trilogy truly is. Disney actually created more fans of the prequels and lead to more criticism of the sequels.
This makes me really happy - that they did the opposite of what they meant to do 😂😆
My biggest Problem with the sequels is that Anakins prophecy, which was builded up in the prequels thoroughly, was completely destroyed, because Palpatine returned and so his sacrifice was for nothing
Exactly. Both trilogies were ruined in one line. “ SomEhOw PalPatInE’s ReTuRed!”
I definitely hate that. But it's hard to say if it is the biggest problem, when there are so many others.
He won too. Rey is technically can be used by him as a force conduit
I actually find that Anakin's failure to kill Palpatine as thematically appropriate, he was meant to be the chosen one and he degenerated into a child-killing, planet destroying, authoritarian fascist. He was crippled, mangled and enslaved to the will of the Emperor. Vader was nothing but a high-powered mook in the end and I feel as though his failure to slay the emperor worked because he was a Sith and murdering the Emperor doesn't absolve him of murdering millions or possibly BILLIONS of people. However, I find that his sacrifice wasn't for nothing because he managed to save Luke, his beloved son and regain some measure of his humanity in the process. His part in the prophecy wasn't to kill the emperor, he saved his son who would go on to train the next generation of Jedi and they (Rey) would defeat the Emperor for good.
@@masterimaginariumdooblepop7592 I guess that makes some sense. It still doesn’t fix the fact that the prophecy explicitly stated that he would kill Palpatine though.
Finn: "Han Solo the rebellion general?" Rey: "No, the smuggler!" This sums up the sequel trilogy so well. They threw all of greatness in these characters out the window and filled in that free space in the plot with new characters who were written poorly.
In what universe would a smuggler's name be more known than a war hero's? That's some contrived BS.
@@szeltovivarsydroxan9944 I know right! Somehow she knew that Han solo was as a smuggler not as a war hero. Also that she didn't even know who Luke was!!
makes me wonder with lines like that if maybe one of the writers knew EXACTLY what was going on.
As a wise man once said if you are a famous smuggler you aren't doing it right
That dialogue is completely logical lol, don’t get the criticism. Finn was part of the first order AKA remnants of the empire. Of course he would know han solo as a rebellion general. rey lived in the ass end of the galaxy in the “i make tatooine look good” planet. probably smugglers are a necessity and part of general culture in that environment.
The sequels are exactly what everyone who hated the prequels SAID they wanted.
"To all those fans out there, who complained for years that someone other, than George Lucas should be running Star Wars galaxy - congratulations. You've got your wish. Enjoy!" (c) Nerdonymous To add to this great quote - it's exactly the type of films that they deserve.
I don't think anyone asked for horrible writing
I can't stop rewatching this video very time it pops back into my feed. You've done an absolutely stellar job getting to the core of the issues each film has. I'd never say that the originals and the prequels were flawless, but there was (and still is) a special magic about them, you can almost feel the passion and creativity bleeding through in each and every moment. Having grown up with knowing the mythology of star wars better than I knew my history or the Bible, it's really difficult to let something so dear to me go, that quote you play at the end by Lucas has honestly helped me move on, to leave what it has become behind while remembering why I loved it so much in the first place.
The Disney "trilogy" is what happens when a room full of executives are so eager to exploit their newly acquired golden goose, that they rush to market with no vision beyond dollar signs. These films were never about characters, history, themes, or laying a new foundation for the future. They were about marketing, profits, and putting as little creative thought into the process as possible.
As Ive been replying with a lot about this and with Disney that company is gonna be the last company to go under because they literally are a kids company and pretty more childish which is why the Star Wars sequel Trilogies are just made childish for the sake of money and if the people who help made this garbage weren't obsessed with greed or following an agenda or even trying to fit for something that turns into a monster they wouldn't wanted to make this shit. I know some might Argue Rogue One and Clone Wars Season 7 was all get but after that there was no point in continuing content after so long as the monopoly woke mouse (CEOs) is also responsible to damage of franchises they never created.
They have lost millions if not billions when they kept insulting and attacking a huge portion of the fan base by inserting identity politics. This was never just about making money.
@@Ricardo-cl3vs And after Firing Gina that should of been the straw for everybody Nerdrotic and Geeks and Gamers point out. For all I care I think anything on Mouse Company should just be watched pirated the company deserves to loose money the way they act, both online and on advertising.
@@mightyraptor01 Couldn't agree more.
@@Ricardo-cl3vs this is a company that refused to insert a gay romance even when the director and actors wanted it. they were hesitant to put a female lead and a black male lead in the same film, and JJ had to spend nine months convincing them. all of their decisions are about money and misguided market research.
For me, the saddest part about the sequels is that this was Disney’s one chance to effectively use all of the original actors. And now, with it being done and gone, that chance has gone. Fisher is dead (RIP), Hamill is disappointed and Ford is completely over Star Wars. It sucks that the one chance we got at continuing these characters stories does the opposite, and returns them to their original state or just completely sends their character in an opposite direction. It is also actually criminal that there was never one scene where those three actors were reunited together. Just such a shame.
What I really wanted to see were references to Padme and Anakin. The parents of the two legendary figures in the galaxy. Imagine Anakin being reunited with his family bringing the old and new together.
Sucks once you saw how excited the original and new actors were for the new Star Wars after filming Force Awakens, and then they seemed bored and done once Rise of Skywalker came out.
this is actually so true and its a shame that Disney failed like this
Read the Legends novels
@@e.l.b6435 where?
14:44 - 14:48 did Ryan Johnson not watch The Phantom Menace, because that's how Anakin defeats the Trade Federation.
The first time I saw Force Awakens I thought Luke was on Ahch-To to learn some ancient wisdom of the Force to help set things right. That’s all they had to do justify Luke’s absence
i thought the same thing
"Star wars was the tragedy of Darth Vader. The story is over now. Vader is dead" - George Lucas
I find it interesting that the tragedy of Darth Plaguis foreshadowed Anakin’s. His strength, ObiWan & Padme made Anakin powerful. The only thing he feared was losing his power. And he was usurped by the man he trusted most.
I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Lucas that the "Star Wars" saga ended when Darth Vader passed on.
@@allenjones3130 ... And yet, George Lucas had a vision for a nine-chapter story from very early on. I can't help but wonder where the story would have take us if he had been in charge of the sequels. I for one believe we would have gotten something new. For one thing, whatever else you might want to say about Lucas, he was a coherent story-teller. Unlike the hot mess the actual sequels turned out to be.
@@rudewalrus5636 I heard that the villain of the sequels, before star wars got sold to Disney of course, was going to be Darth Maul, which I think would have been so much better than what we have now
@@iamacatperson7226 I wish we would've gotten that trilogy instead, with Daisy and Adam as Kira and Sam.
Ok, for Rise of Skywalker, there's another note I gotta add. In Rise of Skywalker, they undid Anakin's fulfillment of the prophecy. Anakin was prophecized to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the force. In Episode VI, Anakin destroys Palpatine and restores balance to the force. Rise of Skywalker completely undoes that and makes it Rey's prophecy. Personally, I find that stupid
Lucas was gonna do the EXACT same thing, so your point doesn't' really matter much. Not being rude, just trying to frame your comment with some facts.
@@EdgeOfEntropy17 Hey, not offended at all, cool little thing to know actually
@@everglow1012 Yeah, Lucas had Leia being the Chosen One. I didn't like that idea at all, but they did the same thing with the sequel trilogy, so what are we to do, really? Like you said, it was stupid.
@@EdgeOfEntropy17 the whole idea of a chosen one was retarded to begin with. Did Vader have to be a space Jesus at all? There's a million reasons why the PT sucks donkey balls, but putting an unoriginal "you will bring balance" prophecy is probably the lamest thing they could've done
Exactly, They didn't even bother having Anakin talk to his son in TLJ about how he handled Ben Solo. They didn't even bother having Anakin redeeming Ben Solo in TROS which it would've made so much more narrative sense. I'm so bummed out that it didn't happened, such a waste.
Episode 7: Fuck the prequels Episode 8: Fuck nostalgia Episode 9:...Fuck
Ep9:fuck everything
This is the most concise and well-scripted breakdown of the trilogy’s overarching problems I’ve seen on KZhead… nice job
The "anti-trilogy" is a great title. Toss this monstrosity into the "legends" category, say it happened in another universe, and start over with a new episode 7.
@red racer Well, I'm not too big on the prequels, but I didn't hate them. I'd rather have them than not have them. I wish the Disney sequels had never been made, however. I read the Thrawn trilogy by Timothy Zahn, and although I didn't like everything about them, I vastly prefer them over Disney's trainwreck.
Or maybe, you know, don't make a new trilogy? The episode 6 already gave us a perfect conclusion. We don't need a new big story continuation. Smaller shows like the mandalorian are good enough.
I take it you hate the old expanded universe then if you want to bump the sequels in with them?
@@delta2372 What I said was I preferred the Zahn Trilogy over Disney's sequels. I was making a distinction between the two, not lumping them together.
@@trevordavis5053 The prequels bring about more emotion and tension compared to the original trilogy. I cry like I lost someone I love when I watch Revenge of the Sith, its that heart wrenching...
For all the shortcomings of George Lucas, he could never be accused of lacking creativity. The man has a million cool ideas and I have to respect the fact that all of his films feel different.
He’s basically the opposite of JJ Abrams
Yeah I mean... For as much as you could criticize the prequals for things. They bring us. Fluid and elaborate lightsaber action, pod racing, sonic charges shattering astroids. Mace freakin Windu with purple lighsabers. A high speed chase through the traffic lanes of Coruscant. ETC ETC ETC. Imagination was throught he roof in that. Sadly some detractors laugh and point at Jar Jar or wooden writing or acting here or there. And don't get me wrong. I do think the original trilogy are overall the best movies. BUT the older I get the more I like the political and economic intrigue of the prequels and the beautiful creations of Lucas imagination that are spread all through the prequel movies. I LOVE THEM even if they aren't the best movies. They help tell Anakin/Vader's story as well who is my FAVORITE Star Wars Character.
He just lacks perfect execution, and good dialogue writing.
@@benjaminroe311ifyThey also paved the way for both Clone Wars cartoons, the earlier Battlefront games, the KOTOR games, establishing more lore into the entire universe revolving around the Jedi, Sith, Mandalorians, Planets and especially the Force! I understand the aspect of a creator wanting to do a new direction, but JJ and Rian clearly didn't do that!
@@benjaminroe311ify I'll agree. The prequels were very strangely prescient to what's happening in the United States these days. Evil fascist creep has been insidious now for decades. And it did not end with Trump getting beaten in 2020. Whether he gets reelected or some other fascist right wing Ahole comes to power, the danger is real and palpable, and the resistance STILL doesn't seem to grasp the seriousness of the situation.
'It's the famous archer, Lando Calrissian' made me cough with laughter...
I heard the 7-9 summed up best like this: Star Wars was created viewed through the lens of Flash Gordon, Arthurian mythos, Saturday Morning Republic Serials and 50's car culture. 7-9 was Star Wars seen through the lens of Star Wars.
For me, it all comes down to this: The original trilogy was made because a film maker who loved the industry had a story he wanted to tell, and a world he wanted to bring to life. The prequels, despite their flaws, were made because he had more of that story to tell, and he wanted to expand on that world. The sequels were made because a new corporation had purchased a highly profitable franchise and wanted to make use of the brand. The story? Made up as it went along by different writers/directors. The world? Who cares about the wider mythos? As long it's recognisably Star Wars, people will watch it.
seriously, THIS^
lightsabers go swish swoosh so its a starwars movie lol
Despite George's claims today, the OT was pretty much winged the whole way. We saw this due to oddities like the Splinter of the Mind's Eye novel, and multiple times in interviews changing how many movies Star Wars is supposed to have. I imagine Disney looked at that creative process from a very surface level perspective and assumed they could make movies with zero planning and make tons of money just because of the Star Wars IP alone.
"Despite their flaws" pray do tell
@@davidhenson1316 Just to clarify before explaining what I mean: I love the prequels a lot. They're super over-hated and nitpicked beyond belief. That said, you can't pretend they're flawless or even as well put together as the original trilogy. For me, it comes down to three things: 1) I just find the dialogue and acting super wooden in places. Episode 2's love story for example produced some absolutely vomit-inducing stuff. 2) They lean a lot more into kid friendly stuff and dumb slapstick humor that tend to distract from story and tension, particularly in Episodes 1 and 2. Jar Jar through Episode 1, 3P0 and R2 in the Droid factory in 2, the shenanigans with the droids at the beginning of 3... I could personally do without that kind of stuff. 3) The pacing can be pretty messy. I find Ep. 1 to be enjoyable for it's high points, but it's a bit of a slog. Then you get to the Maul fight, one of the best fights in the saga, and it has to compete for screen time with young Anakin spouting lame, annoying dialogue as he flies an N-1 Starfighter, another example of the more kiddy stuff. That aside though, I love the prequels. The good they bring to the franchise far, far outweighs the flaws I described for me.
That nobody credits George Lucas for writing a compelling political thriller and only focuses on Jar Jar is unfortunate.
Yeah the average person didn't catch on to what Jar Jar's arc was going to be. He was actually a powerful sith lord.
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The reason nobody credits him writing a "compelling political thriller" is because he VERY evidently didn't.
@@ZeroFilmClips Agreed!!!
@@ZeroFilmClips They just seem to be man children who complained for having politics at all.
Force healing actually was a thing already but it was very limited. Used to heal minor injuries. When Obi Wan rescued Luke in Ep. 4 from the sand people. When Obi Wan has his hand on Luke's forehead he was healing his very minor injuries. Lukas already said as much as far as I knew. But their has to be limits. Rey was as usual overpowered in every way,
Suuuure bud, nice retcon
@@Neskess This was from George Lucas' mouth.. You can look it up to verify for yourself
You hit the nail on the head. I‘m in tears (not literal)cause everything you said is true about the SW by Disney. It‘s a disgrace! But the people involved are so full of themselves that they can‘t- don’t WANT see beyond their own shining mirror image.
The saddest part of all of this is that George Lucas had a sequel trilogy written, but Disney just threw it away. It was supposed to connect the prequels and originals, like Luke was supposed to go to Coruscant at some point.
Bob Iger's autobiography includes a really interesting line as to why they bought Lucas' story treatments so they can be discarded; a passage that tells everything about Disney's objective with the Sequel Trilogy as a whole.
@@legoferrari14 lol, so what did he say?
@@TrevHassy He said that he didn't want to do George's story treatments; instead he wanted to do something "Quintessentially Star Wars" Which sounds like PR-speak for "nostalgia-bait using the iconography of the OT."
I wonder if they are still in some google doc still
Hot take. The prequels are good
Thank you. In my opinion, bringing Palpatine back was the worst decision they could have possibly made. It made the original trilogy pointless.
No not necessarily IF they had made it so that Luke did not die for nothing. If Vadar had sacrificed himself so that his son could rebuild the order and Palpatine had come back that would have been fine. Instead Luke surviving ended up being worse for the galaxy the beeter.
The only good thing the sequel trilogy did was that they confirmed that a good chunk of the legend Sith Lords are canon. Such as Revan
maul starts crime organization but he is the biggest one he controls all even fetts tattowein leia is rebuilding republic and luke rebuilding Jedi and askoka is looking for Ezra with Sabine they find his lightsaber on a grave and they mourn then it cuts to the knights of ren with Ezra now called kylo ren trying to find holocrons same scene from the force awakens then it cuts to chewy and han getting chased by criminals and they land on Naboo after getting away talk to leia about the crime problem and then gets idea that they have to kill all the bosses not knowing maul is the big one then Han says how are we gonna kill all them once one dies the rest will go into hiding so Han says she may know a person who can help and tells mando to come to Naboo cuts to mando In his n-1 and shows the convo with leia and he says it’s on the house then cuts to Sabine and asoska going to Luke’s hidden temple only the people closet to Luke knows where it’s at Sabine shows the luke ezras lightsaber and says he’s gone then they all walk in the temple sees them all training with grogu and luke says to askoka the new order may need to have some new masters and she says she will consider showing them the temple and talking then cuts to kylo talking to hooded figure and he says I sense a plot to destroy what we have built contact the crime lords and let them know I sense a plot on there lives could be coming. Cuts to mando leia chewy and Han on Naboo talking about what they should do then mando says I might have a guy whose into this kinda work they all leave in the falcon with mando chewy Han and go to tattowein to talk to boba about how they need to take the bosses out and they convince him that he will be able to take there profits so boba sets a meeting up with all them in a unknown location and chewy Han mando sneak in but when they get to the room with all the bosses there just halograms laughing at them and boba says to them through halogram business is businesses and gas starts to come out the vents and knocks them out put into cells cuts to Luke askoka leia and Sabine all talking about there plan not knowing what happened then kylo ten meets the prisoners and try’s to find out where Luke’s temple is but luke hasn’t even told Han chewy or mando but learns from Hans brain that leia knows they want the holocrons from his temple so he leaves and says that’s all I need and Han yells leiaaaa!!! Then a rogue criminal try’s to break them out just like fin did they all escape but mando he gets captured again but tells them to leave him they go back to Naboo contacting leia telling them the criminals are on there way to Naboo to get leia luke askoka Sabine are all still in the call leia tells them all to go but luke says he has to stay at the temple with the Jedi so Sabine askoka and grogu knowing mando was captured they leave but before the leave Luke’s says may the force be with you. When they all get back the discus what they are gonna do then a bunch of ships are seen in the air then cuts to mando with no armor with a knight of ren taking him to the hooded figure good goood he says mando spits and says who are you he says I have seen empires rise and fall they are all the same my friend. You and your damned republic will be crushed my men are already on there way mando runs at the figure the knight lights his saber up as the figure force holds mando in place and says to the knight no let him the knight backs off as mando is unfrozen he runs to the figure throws punches then get choked still not seeing who it is and mando says why don’t you just kill me and the figure says I have other purposes for you then puts him to sleep back at Naboo the forces hit the ground and there is a bunch of criminals and kylo ren and 2 other knights they are fighting trying to get leia and capture her and the plant they are all fighting askoka is fighting knights and Sabine is fighting kylo grogu is fighting everyone else then cuts to Mando in the cell with the criminal guards lokking at his cell making jokes about him then he says hey can you grab my back I need my pure beskar gear and there like soo your mandolarin they go get his stuff they are messing with it one puts his helmet on then they touch his wrist guard and mando says I wouldn’t touch then he gets cut by the shock that came from his wrist armor they both get knocked out they drop the card for the cell and mando gets his stuff and escapes he’s on his way to Naboo but there’s no contact so he rushes to get there Sabine and kylo are fighting where the duel of the fates is And Sabine ask why are you doing this who are you and he say my friends left me for death and then she realizes it’s Ezra she pulls out his lightsaber from his past light and he touch’s it like kylo and Han in force awakens chewy herra are watches this from away then Kylo turns the saber on and kills her chewy And herra shoot but he gets away and try’s to fight leia askoka is pinned down about to get slain and then you here the mando music and it’s him he says I can bring you in warm or I can bring you in cold then he shoots his grabbing hook from his wrist and grabs the lightsaber from the knights hand duel wielding the dark saber and a red lightsaber then the knight grabs one of askokas and then askoka force pushes the knight they have a big battle and the knight ends up getting captured they see kylo and go after him And herra shoots kylo he’s injured and all the criminals troops are dead or captured kylo starts running to a cliff And everyone follows them from the other side a ship appears and it’s the other knight kylo gets on and leaves then the group is all together and askoka asks where is Sabine and herra tells her what happened they run to Sabine with c-3po and other Republic fighters trying to help her but then the group gets there and just like yoda when he died she’s cut off saying it was hhhmm her trying to say it was Ezra but was cut off then they mourn burn her body then the question the captured knight and Han asked is kylo your master the knight laughs you fools and then Han says okay what master do you service then cuts to kylo returning to his master telling him it was a failure then the hooded figure gets up and takes the robe off his head revealing it’s maul and says fine I’ll do it myself then movie ends
if i was put in charge of episode 9, i would give snoke a reappearance. just write if off as the man kylo killed being a double and leave it at that
@@Underworlder5 for me, I would probably go with the original script with episode nine. Where Kylo actually becomes a Sith Lord and learns the true ways of the dark side and even is considered to be stronger than Palpatine. He basically would’ve been Anakin if he never got burned. And throughout the movie we would’ve seen him slowly become a Sith Lord. He also would’ve learned Force drain. During the final battle, he would absolutely destroy Rey but Rey would use the dark and the light side to take him out. The ending would’ve been her starting a new Jedi code where you can use both dark and light side of the force so there is balance.
Necessary John Williams appreciation comment for continuing the beauty and magic of the music that is almost half of what star wars is
The prequels receiving praise for what it is they did right warms my heart. My childhood…OUR childhood movies are validated & deserve their seat at the table. Beautiful video
There's one thing this trilogy made right: it made me appreciate the prequels a gazillion times more.
As it copied the OT, the sequels made me appreciate the OT more.
The prequels are actually solid movies, and combined with Clone Wars they just feel like an integral and crucial part of the story, character arcs and the whole universe. That's the thing, episodes 7-9 are pointless noise compared to what came before them.
Long Live George Lucas.
@@bidzej86 The Prequels aren't even in line with things Obi-Wan told Luke about his father in ANH and ROTJ. That's not solid. It's like George Lucas doesn't know his own movies (the OT).
Bruh, same.
Some very good points. I feel like I'm enjoying these criticisms of the sequels more than I enjoyed the movies themselves.
ya think!?
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not doubt about it
Same goes for me and the prequels. Mr Plinkett's videos on them are 10 times more entertaining than the movies are themselves.
As many people accros the world.
The prequels fight scenes just look real and well done
This is the most mature and sincere video I’ve seen explaining the sequels, full stop. The outro line about moving on was especially poignant.
When Rey called herself,”Rey skywalker” I cringed. Because I either expected her to say,”Rey Palpatine” showing everyone that good can rise from evil. Or for her to make her own name. Showing that she is creating a new legacy for the Jedi. But no, she’s trying to continue a name she doesn’t even own.
I genuinely laughed out loud in the theatre when she said it... I still haven't rewatched that mess and star wars meant the fucking world to me growing up
Sort of what it's about. For this Woke crap to steal existing IP and to twist it
@@BLACULA-Skeewoah Same here. Now, tragically, it means nothing to me.
Sounds like fan fiction if you ask me
I mean, like it was said in the video, I liked the 7th, the 8th too... But damn, Rey Skywalker ? Really ?
One of the saddest realizations I have as I think about how hard the sequels failed is that Carrie Fisher is dead, Harrison Ford is almost done acting, and Mark Hamill was killed in the last movie so that demands a rejection of this trilogy (which I wouldn't mind) in order to move on and include him. The old assets are pretty much gone. They had one shot to appeal to fans while carrying on the torch and they failed and that great opportunity is gone now.
Indeed we should hope there will be no other set of films maken by those woke rapists of Disney at all!
They didn't want to appeal to old fans. They wanted to create new ones. Old fans are, well, old. Same thing happened to Star Trek. Went about as well.
If by some miracle the sequels get a reboot. Then it HAS to start with Leia getting assassinated the new republic on the brink of collapse. Have Han and Luke go on an adventure to find the person responsible and end the “First Order Insurgency” only to find out that it was Ben Solo who masterminded it (he had fallen to the dark side under the influence of Snoke). Have it end with Han sacrificing himself and Kylo finding redemption by betraying Snoke.
@@Kaiserboo1871 It doesn't have to have any of that. The original post-Jedi story involved an extragalactic threat invading the galaxy and Luke's new Jedi Order working to repel them. A reboot doesn't need to use the trite First Order stuff at all, and in fact it benefits them to *not* use it because then they will have even more toys and merchandise to sell. The less they use of what they have already created, the more new things they can sell to consumers. This is why, for instance, C3P0 has a red arm for no reason in the new trilogy. None of the characters they created were good anyway, they would need to be re-written into different, actually good characters. So why not give them new names and appearances at that point? And then have new figurines to sell. Write an actually good, actually strong female lead to be a real role model or whatever.
@@xoeleox2079 I mean with Fisher dead, they kinda have to kill off Leia. I don’t like the idea of having a dead person in a movie they didn’t live to take part in (Using CGI to make a few scenes is fine [Paul Walker], also using CGI to resurrect dead actors to fill in background characters is fine [Tarkin from Rouge One] but doing an entire movie with a dead actor as a main character is not a good idea).
This expresses everything I feel about the sequels. There was so much potential they wasted. The prequels were not perfect movies, but they FELT LIKE STAR WARS. I still love them, even if the dialogue can be corny sometimes
Classic case of trying so hard not to be predictable that you end up making no sense at all.
'And Chewbacca gets a medal...even though all his friends are dead' nails it completely. 😂😂
I really am amazed he made it out alive.
@@kimmccarthy7747 He was demoted to chuffure... in the ship that he and his best friend had.
That depressing and insulting was the whole give chewie a medal a big deal!? It worth shit now.
Man, that provided me some of the saddest laughter ever.
Not going to bring up how Wookies culture doesn't see medals as valuable because they use the EU as toilet paper or material for their "original ideas", she choose to get it post mortem ... to her (ex-)husband's and possibly her best friend for years. I wouldn't be surprised that after recieving the medal that he threw it like Jake did to his lightsaber in The Last Jedi.
What baffles me is they didn’t need to do any of this. They could have picked literally _any_ story from the expanded universe to adapt and run with that. We wanted to learn more about the new republic and new Jedi Council, but all we got was a rehash of the first three movies.
That is the biggest gripe people have, the erasing of Legends, I mean if I take the Jedi Knight games for example, we had new Jedi and such, Kyle Katarn, etc. Worst in my eyes story wise is also how they fucking used Fortnite of all things with a timed exclusive event to tell how Palpatine returned as well. Those Sequels are a fucking mess.
@@WaryObserverI don't have a huge problem with the canon reset. I convinced pretty much all of my friends that the reset was a good thing by pointing out all the stupid shit in legends that needed to be filtered out, like palpatine returning, and the Galaxy gun. Then the sequels somehow took the worst parts of legends and made them movies, while ignoring all of the amazing stuff legends had to offer. I was expecting a situation where the new clone wars overrode 2003 clone wars. My expectations were incorrect.
@@LakesideTrey In 2015 I was "Good! Clean timeline no more Dark Empire, Jedi Prince, Super weapons of the week and overpowered new jedi protagonists and writers trying to one-up each other!" Then literally everything I didn't like in Legends came back worse. At least in legends Luke, Han, and Leia actually had character development instead of Han regressing back to being a smuggler, Leia going back to being part of a small rebel cell, and Luke just giving up on family, redemption, and does an edgy version of Yoda's arc.
I know right? Timothy Zahn had some great ideas. Dark Empire comic series was awesome. So much fertile ground, but no vision for the greater story arc. JJ Abrams will die rich, but also poor.
@@WaryObserver the jedi knight games especially dark forces II would make absolutely incredible movies! but sadly as long as disney owns it I don't think I'd ever watch another star wars movie again :/
The audience's problem with the prequels was they thought it would be like the OT. They forgot that everything had a beginning. Funny how people shunned the CGI of the prequels but yet "modern" moviegoers prefer "big budget" films that contain a lot of CGI effects.
I love this video. When he said "But to keep a creative work alive you have to create things. And it's clear looking at this trilogy that *nothing was build here"* I got chills. Because it's true.
It should also be mentioned that around the time The Force Awakens came out, the generation of children who grew up with the prequels were just entering into adulthood and becoming far more vocal about their love for the films. The mindset around the prequels was already changing during that time, especially with the help of The Clone Wars animated series. So, in hindsight, being sort of anti-prequel was a pretty bad call and I think they’re just now registering that a lot of people really love that trilogy - especially the story of it - and that era of the Star Wars universe.
It’s why they had to scramble Episode 9 to reflect a lot of prequel era details. It’s also why the Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett have so much from the entire series, not just one set of trilogies.
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i am one of them... i absolutely love every single thing about the prequels and the clone wars and how in depth, though out and intertwined they are. the sequels shit all over that
I don’t know, I’m born in ‘92 and I still love original trilogy much more than prequels.
@@drazenbudis7881 For some fans, i deserve death for saying this but: i think the original movies are boring and uninteresting, not in a action sense, more in a story sense, the only one that i like is empire strikes back. But i absolutely love the prequels, the only prequel i dislike is the first one.
That last sentience. "For all these movies efforts to leave behind the legacy of George Lucas...he's the one that has moved on , and they're still standing right back where he started."
That was the perfect closing remark
Sentence*
@@housesg5981 a closing remark is a sentence, or can be at least
@@buddy3261 He's replying to the initial comment
@@axeenj oh
This was absolutely amazing, made my eyes water twice watching this. I love Star Wars, and I don’t think we’ve seen it since 2005 😢. Excellent video!! 🎉
Dude we need these written, your essays are pure joy to the mind.
"JJ Abrams had to assemble enough activity to take up 2 hours of every audience member's life". This is the most scathing critique of Rise of Skywalker without using the word "garbage" I've ever heard, and I love it.
i also love the for a split second in the last jedi critic he shows "anti-men" for a very brief second before it changes to anti-poe
I read this comment as he said it nice
A garbage film would probably be a better experience because that would leave a lasting impression.
I still can’t get over the Sith dagger stuff
I will never get tired of watching dissections over the Stars Wars sequels. They're just the most fascinating, perfect case study for everything NOT to do in a major movie franchise. The state of their sheer existence is baffling, and I'm so happy people can make videos about them even years after they ended. Truly the gifts that keep on giving.
Theyre so bad its actually funny. If I had said «Somehow Palpatine returned» when I was pretending to be a Jedi while holding a stick in middle school my friends would have laughed at me for saying something so stupid and they had the gall to actually put it in an actual Star Wars movie ahahaha
Hahaha, I was just about to make the EXACT same comment as you. Even call it the gift that keep on giving.
Honestly, if you stop seeing the sequel trilogies as Star Wars movies and instead see it as just JJ Abrams' and Rian Johnson's glorified pissing match pretending to use Star Wars props, it becomes hilarious. Then depressing upon remembering these were official and not parody.
@@joshuakim5240 100% agree. I consider the sequels as sort of fan fiction and not actually/officially part of the franchise.
@Monsieur Tarzan Agree.
One really has to wonder why Abrams either can’t understand how humanity thinks /feels or doesn’t like it.
This is the best, most concice, even handed and accurate take on the sequels on the internet. And as a onetime fan of star wars i have watched a LOT of essays like this. Impeccable work.
The “death” of Chewy and immediate reversal for me was the tipping point for RoS. I was genuinely excited after the transport explosion at the opportunity for Rey to explore and wrestle with her anger and the consequences of giving in to her emotions, only to immediately be jerked back and reminded that Abrams pulls every punch in this film.
well put.
She didn’t know chewy wasn’t dead. She did have to deal with that emotion
@@AklepEtan Yeah, but only for a couple of minutes. There was basically no exploration of her characters reaction to it in that time before it was revealed to her that Chewy was alive.
Abrams is a hack who can't tell a story to save his life without piggybacking on older stories.
When I was watching that scene in cinema I legitimately audibly went "YES!" because I felt like they were finally going to add some serious weight to the story but then it was immediately reversed :/
What Disney did to Star Wars is disgusting, unforgivable.
Absolutely detestable🤮
Thank you!!! F disney n disney plus
Disney saw the sequel trilogy they were going to make as nothing more than a cynical cash-grab. Fuck Disney and fuck every Disney bootlicker.
@@Rishi123456789 hooah!!!
This whole thread skipped Andor, clearly. Disney had made so many mistakes, and the one that got it right isn't being watched. SMH.
If Disney would stop existing right now, the World would be a better place.
I love the originals for their charm and innovative filmmaking. I love the prequels for the action sequences, the lore and worldbuilding. I love the sequels for introducing me to Adam Driver 😁
How the hell could the man that created everything that exists in the Star Wars universe get it “wrong”, yet JJ Abrams thinks so highly of himself he could “get it right”
Dude that is really what gets my goose here too, especially since JJ got it so abhorrently wrong
George Lucas also got ir wrong, the prequels suck, that's why nobody buys them or those crappy toys, that's why he had to sell the greatest franchise in the world for cheap change to Disney. May the force be with you spoiled zoomers...
@@BogusLion Ah yes, the Zoomers, the ones who accept and enjoy the prequels, are spoiled, unlike you, who bitches about every little thing, but it's because you "know better" and are more "refined."
@@BogusLion yeah, 4 fucking BILLIONS dollars is cheap changes. You can use some "cheap changes" yourself.
@@BogusLion Each prequel episode alone is better than all three "Disney trilogy" films together. Because it's authentic and it's made with love. Say what you want about EP I or II, But EPIII was great.
The arrogance and confidence of JJ Abrams around the force awakens will always make me mad. The audacity to think Lucas did wrong and you can just do right is shameful. I’m glad the movie actively set his career back cuz that’s what he deserved
It possibly made his career stagnate a bit, since it felt like he didn't bring anything new to a galaxy full of potential. It's more or less just Episode 4 all over again but executed more poorly. They way I understood it, It was Rise of Skywalker that set him back, not even fans of his earlier work could let that one slide. And they really shouldn't, it's really bad and coming back was the greatest mistake of his career. I think The Force Awakens is decent enough to make it to top 5. Just above the prequels. The only flaw I can think of is that Rey and Finn are too overpowered, even if it's some sort of foreshadowing. Then again, I never really cared that much about Han Solo. I have no problem with the way he was handled, it all made sort of sense to me. The weird thing for me would have been finding him still happily married to Leia after 30 years, especially if they had lost their son to the dark side of the Force. The comedy aspect has no place in Star Wars though. At least not the "Ohh look at me, I keep on mocking myself so that everybody can laugh at how ridiculous of a movie I am"-comedy that reminds me of MCU. To me, Poe's "So who talks first..." kind of sets the tone for the whole trilogy. Despite everything else we get to see in the scene, this makes it clear that we don't need to take things as seriously as we might have done with George's work. I think this is a mistake, one that escalated even more in The Last Jedi. Let's imagine Qui-Gon and Darth Maul starting their duel on Tatooine with "So who talks first...", it would have been even more out of place than Jar Jar. Or Leia saying it to Darth Vader aboard Tantive IV, for that matter.
JJ Abrams is actually a very decent director, probably one of the best currently alive. However Lucas is still leagues ahead.
@@Sandlund93 Force Awakens may not be bad by itself but it is the worst movie out of all simply because it undid everything in the past 6 movies just so Disney could copy the OT and have safe and high-return plot of empire vs rebels.
Wym Luke was only shown for 5 secs he didn’t write 0:38 last Jedi 😂 . Everyone set up for Ryan he said nah let me destroy it instead
@@raeesdean6908wat did it undo we don’t know anything 😂 until the later movies
Considering how many Directors Kathleen Kennedy Fired because of Creative Differences it's surprising to hear people say "The Directors she approved" made bad movies.
i agree with everything you said. This makes so much sense. And your editing skills are on another level. The transitions are so good!
"The promise of this trilogy, is that it would keep the Star Wars trilogy alive for another generation. But to keep a creative work alive... you have to create things, and It's clear, looking at this trilogy, that nothing was built here." Perfectly described.
Indeed. If anything, they demolished more than built.
“Running away from your own franchise creates more problems than it solves.” Loved your analysis on this.
I heard that & thought of Ubisofts Assassins Creed series 🙃
Or how the Sonic meta era ruined what made that franchise awesome and turned it into some childish lame story.
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I revisit this video every few months. Truly the best take on the trilogy as a whole I've seen. Keep making more content, if you have it in you! I'd love to see more.
JJ Abrams: I will make my movie my way. Rian Johnson: I will make my movie my way. Kathleen Kennedy: AWESOME! Anything is better than the prequels. Disney: Did we just make 2 fan films instead of a cohesive story? Audience: YES! JJ Abrams: I’ll throw some mashup scenes in Episode 9 to fix it. Disney: Well, money matters most.
The sequels did one thing right: they made us appreciate the prequels
The Sequels > the Prequels though, in my opinion.
@@jaywalker7636 ok i respect your opinion , but why ? like for real what makes you like it more ?
Hell no I can’t even pay attention to the prequels they’re soooo boring
@@SpeediRogue The fact that even with their sins and flaws, they still ARE star wars and feel like it.
@@SpeediRogue Better and more fun acting, better dialogue, better action, more entertaining, better visuals, more charismatic characters with more energy, characters that actually have chemistry with each other, better pacing, Adam Driver gives a better performance in the Sequels than anyone did in the Prequels, less stupid fart and burp gags and stepping in poop gags and slapstick comedy/humor even though the comedy/humor wasn't always good in the Sequels but it wasn't as bad as the comedy/humor in the Prequels, etc...the story may not be as cohesive as it should be but I still enjoyed it.
This is probably the most succinct and eloquent critique of the Sequels I've yet heard. AND the editing was brilliant. Honestly, bravo! 👏
I would say no, MauLer’s critique of the sequels are for more in depth.
Honestly some of the best Star Wars content on KZhead. So uncivilized finds the words and explanation for why Star Wars movies make me feel the way I do about them but could never find the way to articulate it.
@John Barlow Sadly, this video havent spanish subtitles
@John Barlow I’ve seen those videos, they were very eye opening.
Star Wars - A Critique Of The Sequels by DX is pretty good too.
The biggest acomplishment of the Disney Trilogy is, that it made me appreciate the prequells more. I never hated them anyways. Sure, they are no match to the original trilogy, but they are fun movies with a few flaws that feel like real Star Wars. They have a new style, but just enough connections to the old movies to feel Star Wars. The new films are trying to copy the old ones and put in just enough changes to not look like remakes. And that's the big mistake, just like Lucas sais.
Thank you! For far too many years I have been listening to Web personalities droning on about Star Wars. Why they hate it or love it. And repeating the same talking points ad naseum. But this... This is brilliantly incisive, saying what I already know AND providing insights I had never considered, but just..felt. Yours is a perfect dissertation.