Criminal Lawyer Reacts to Teen Killer Thinks He's Going Home After Murdering His Mother
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Criminal Lawyer Bruce Rivers Reacts to Teen Killer Thinks He's Going Home After Murdering His Mother by Mind Of A Criminal
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I'm so glad Bruce is still Beard Certified
Hope it stays for a couple months at least 😁
It fits him very well
Me too!!❤
My goodness, what a beautiful beard!
Right?!! Lol
He just went from 25 years to life to life with no parole in 5 words. "I remember sharpening the axe."
Yes your right here l agree with you on this
The way he said it is even more creepy. He said that that like if he was going to cut some wood
Right. He could have argued heat of passion, a fight, maybe got 20 years but he admitted it all. Wow.
Right? I laughed so hard I almost fell out. 😂😂
So crazy. I've never sharpened an axe. Who has?
I used to tell my children not to choose a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Specificallly speaking of suicide, but it applies here, too.
Wise advice Jeb👍
That’s an awesome bit of wise advice! 💙
Yea, having your child ax murder you would be a real bummer
That doesn't apply to everybody some people have permanent depression
I give my daughter this advice all the time! 💜She’s about to be 14 and kids are just so mean these days.
I spat my drink when I saw how deep that axe was, that must've required an unimaginable amount of force, just everything you can muster. To imagine that the guy speaking normally enough in the interview would be able to do such a thing, wow
Could you imagine walking in there, sitting down, and having a long conversation, while acting like there's nothing wrong!?
I so enjoy the way you bring humour and yet some sense to serious situations. Btw…I was seventy when I found out that I was adopted and the man who reared me on his own was not my biological father. I’ve never resorted to violence, although I’ve come very close a few times at the football (Rugby League) 😁 Australian police would not take as long to arrest and transport people to the station 🙄
@@maggiealcock5628I don't mean to pry but I'm always interested in adopted tales. If you don't mind me asking, how did it make you feel when you found out? Did it change anything for you?
Holy shit, you weren't kidding.
Seriously wtf. That takes some serious determination. Imagine the sound it made.
For your son to hear you publicly gush about how much you love him and how much you value your relationship has got to make him feel on top of the world.
For real, I wish my pops was like that
He's dad of the century potential
@@veronicabanales5255I suspect your father forgot to tell you a few important things, so I do my dad interpretation right here and now for everyone who needs a teaspoon of fatherly love: You are fantastic. You do very well, you are so pretty, sweet, kind and funny. You are the apple of your father's eye. We love you so much. I'm so very happy that you are my child!
It’s great you can do projects together. Good vibes to you and family!
I’m not being snarky, but Michael and Bruce had a long, hard stretch and they have had serious ups and downs. But to both their credit, they came out the other side, Michael got straight and into law school and obviously loves the media field. When Bruce is praising him I often think how much more you appreciate something you almost lost. I think there was a long stretch when they couldn’t imagine working together. Extremely happy for them.
I was adopted. When I turned 13, there were a bunch of stories in the Enquirer about adoptees killing their parents. My adopted Mom was not that smart. She took me to a psychiatrist, saying she was worried that I was going to kill her. The Dr talked to me for 5 minutes, said I was fine, and told her he wanted to see her twice a week. She died 35 years later of natural causes.
You should be a writer if youre not one
>She died 35 years later of natural causes. A likely story!! Just kidding, that was a good read. I hope the regular visits helped her to live a good life with you :) I'd love to adopt or foster at some point in the future when my son's a bit older, I know I couldn't handle it right now on top of everything else though.
So that’s what they are calling it now a days? “Natural causes” hmmm
“Natural causes”
I think she did a smart thing it's best to be safe than sorry
Im a 66yr old male , l had a very bad childhood, my father knifed my mother twice , threatened one of my sisters with a rife, hit me at the back of my head with a lump of wood ,l need 20 stitches and mum pleading for not to call the police. When l turned 17 and a ha,f l joined the Navy to get away. I had many thoughts of killing my father but never did. What this evil boy did with a axe and the force he did it with is just mind blowing. That evil little lowlife.
Wow...I'm so sorry to read all that you suffered...❤
I am so sorry about your childhood. I hope that you are doing okay now.
@@janetdobie9722 Thank you 😊 lm living on 5 acres in the middle of the beautiful Australian bush with lots of animals, finding peace. I'm a local fireman now. Xxxx
@elizabethmchenry3102 Thank you 😊 🙏 lm living on 5 acres now with lots of wild animals. Also a local fireman now. Xxxx
I was adopted from Athens, Greece by a military family stationed in Ankara, Turkey. My parents are in heaven now and I miss them very much. Not all adopted kids are evil!
Hmm... I don't know. You did say they were in heaven now...
Of course not!! How you were nurtured from the beginning of your life tends to be the indicator of how stable an adult you become. Of course that's not everything but without that kind beginning being a well rounded and empathetic person is difficult.
@@xeltanni8999hahaha! Good one. Not funny they've passed but...
I’m sure most aren’t.
@@xeltanni8999 sometimes if we don't laugh, we cry. 😊😢
You know what this case reminds me of? The foster kid my parents took in when I was 7. Dad was so desperate for a son & mom so greedy for $ that they knowingly took in a 15 yr old boy who had set 2 of previous foster homes on fire. Sure enough, 2 weeks into him living with us he set our house on fire while we slept. Lit the curtains & bed on fire in his room & lit the curtains & sofa on fire then walked out. He just stood there in the yard watching our house burn. We didn't have smoke detectors either. Luckily, what we did have was a collie that wouldn't stop barking until we got up.
Holy motherfuckin shiiiiit
What a horrible situation. I hope your parents didn't keep the kid. I'm glad you survived.
Thank God for Lassie 🐕
What happened after that?
yeah what happened after that
The woman we bought our house from was single and had a teenage son. Right after they sold us the house they moved to another state and we learned that her son stabbed her to death while she slept on their sofa because she wouldn’t let him go to a basketball game that night. Just frightening.
That's chilling.
Very spooky too !
These stories are so baffling to me. Like, how was that kid not ballsy enough to just walk out… just go to the basketball game… what’s the worst she could do, yell a little? Ground you? Oh the horror! It’s too horrible too imagine! No no, I’ll just murder her instead. Surely the consequences of that will be much less severe. Like 😂 what the fff
Femicide rates are rising across the globe. It’s very worrying. That poor mother 😢.
Kids......
I love how Bruce talks about his son. It’s just so touching. Thank you Michael and Bruce for your efforts in providing quality content.
Me too.👍 Thanks guys , wonderful show.
I love how Michael figured out a way to make money off his father's success ❤💯
Why publicly? That's a personal relationship that should be kept personal. Any outward gloating of ANYONE usually sound disingenuous.
@@kendallevans4079Depends on the circumstance. I think it sounds very genuine here.
@@Anangelfromabove Could be, but why tell the world? Family is just that..Family
My husband was adopted, he’s the middle child with an older & younger sibling who weren’t adopted. He is very non-aggressive but doesn’t naturally show much affection, uncomfortable hugging etc but I’m thankful for his steady calmness
I watch the show because I love this guy's laugh and for his genuine reactions like Fucking-A.
As a child of a doctor and nurse, I can appreciate the gallows humor. It helps to get through the serious stuff with your sanity.
me too, these kind of stuffs stresses me alot but i just have to know and learn for awareness
Yeah I don't laugh like Bruce does tho...
I have worked out in the Community and have seen alot of awfully messed up situations ..... yes you HAVE to have a dry sense of humor as it gets you through extremely stressful situations👍 You are extremely well balanced to understand that of your Parents🤗😯
@@alejandrososa3168you also take weird selfies and are the 3168th person with that name so... who cares what a nerd like you thinks XD
Lol love the humour 😂
"What was in that pie?" That literally killed me 😂
Apparently not enough of Village Inn's "good feelings"!
It's so cringey hearing these weird0s overuse (incorrectly) the word "literally."
Working as a mental health counselor, I had a teen client that I was very confident was a psychopath. He also was adopted and had good parents. I always thought they got so screwed by the random chance of which baby they adopted.
I guess this is true for when you conceive too.... any set of parents could have bad luck and pop out an evil kid ):
Adoption trauma is real, especially in newborns. It’s a messed up industry. They basically bought a baby from a poor mother and then likely hardly speak to her if at all. If I had to guess. Makes you wonder if he would have turned out the same had he been raised by his birth mom.
@@XxSuicidalNinjaxX but he was FOUR when Denise adopted so a lot of damage had already been done, it's not as though he was ripped from the arms of a woman who had the love and resources and security to raise him with ease.
@@SusanaXpeace2uI don’t even know what your point is. You’re saying he has no adoption trauma because he was even further attached to the adults than a newborn and also bc the new family had more money?
i have a friend who adopted a set of twins when they were two years old (removed from their birth mom due to neglect, malnourishment) . They have both struggled in school but were very nice young children.?when they hit 17 all hell broke loose with delinquency, stealing, every behavior problem you can imagine. now diagnoses of schizophrena are made and she is completely devastated. no good turn goes unpunished.
This case has MUCH MUCH MUCH more than what we hear in this interrogation! I just listened to EWU Crime Storytime on this. There’s SO much to this story. I mean, yikes. And there’s even a little brother who was also later adopted from Guatemala and was either problematic himself or was abused by Denise to lead to problems. There was mention of neighbors having pets chopped in half. Just a bad bad situation all the way around, with some points of okayness sprinkled in.
# Ewu crew
Yikes!
There was no hint to abuse in this case. Lease note that this son was already 4 years old when adopted. We don’t even know what happened during his crucial time of his formative years.
I was adopted at birth (3 days old). My parents (the people who adopted me) raised me as absolutely best as they could and told me that I was adopted as soon as I could begin to understand it. Despite my parents holding me as a baby and doing the best they could I inadvertently developed attachment syndrome which was manifested as being rather emotionless. Not mean or cruel, just overall flatly affected. As a side note our family has a friend who adopted a girl from an orphanage in Siberia. It was reported that the baby girl had never been held and grew up in a crib for the first 4 years of her life. As she grew up in her new American home she would push brother down the stairs and hit sister. Thankfully though the family was able to get her on tract and she is now getting her master's degree from Miami of Ohio!
Infant adoption is a horrible thing for a human to go through.
@@yosemite735 Yes but it was better than being raised in a drug house by addicted parents. (Although interesting enough I also had addiction issues despite my adoptive parents never doing drugs a day in their life)
@@yosemite735it is way better than abortion!!! I know these orphanages are full of children and not enough workers but they have to find a way to make sure these kids get counseling so they don’t turn out that way.
@@yosemite735What do you suggest as an alternative?
@@yosemite735Pardon me?
Bruce I’m a forensic psych student and have been binging your videos like crazy lately!! You have such a great disposition and sense of humor. Shoutout!!
Bruce is the BEST
You might find my criminal case interesting. I was evaluated but two forensic psychologist.
Right?! He infuses intelligent conversation with humor and an appropriately placed f-bomb. Bruce is a treasure.
I know he's young but i can't help but call him UNGRATEFUL!! She gave him a life he would never have had. Those pics are heartbreaking.
Bruce is killing me laughing. He has this wonderful mixture of sympathy towards victims and harshness towards bullies. Yet at the same time wants to defend people. As he always says it has be proven beyond reasonable doubt. I was sexually assaulted and worried myself sick for a year, the old creeps excuse was ‘ I was looking for a lighter.’ The defence was speechless. I was asleep on my couch fully clothed with a blanket on top of me. They found his DNA and if I had not woken up it could have been much worse. Found out later he preyed on people. I find Bruce easier to understand than the people supporting me. They were so harsh, it was awful. Anyway he lost, 5 years in a UK prison, means he served half. However I get why Bruce does it I wonder though how tough it is knowing a rapist or chmo might be back on the streets. ❤❤❤❤
As a teenager I didn’t have the luxury to not think about the consequences of my actions on even things in my far future, like possible future work. Not saying that I didn’t do anything stupid, but whatever I did was far from killing anyone. While regular teens do stupid stuff all the time, I don’t believe that they’re not mature enough to know that killing someone has consequences… this kid clearly has other issues.
I don’t think anyone is insinuating, the issue with this kid, is “Age-Related.” There is clearly something very wrong with a kid who kills his mom, like this, and then the interview that follows, where he has zero emotion. This isn’t natural behaviour, period.
Wasn’t this dude adopted
I literally just said the same thing with his emphasis on "boys brains." It always seems as if boys are excused more, as if there's no difference btwn right from wrong as a "teen." Cmon. Like you said kids do dumb things but killing, that's not an "immature" mistake, from any sex imo
Facts, my daughter's 4 and I'm pretty sure she knows killing people is not acceptable. Ants are a different story, we wont talk about it lol.
no offense but most tik tok users are teenagers so I agree with Bruce, they do not think of their future self in no shape or form
The more I watch Bruce the more I realize, he's born showman. Very natural on screen, good for him. Love your stuff Bruce!
Wow, this one really touched me. Your explanation of adoptive children (although many are successfully adopted), your humor and empathy combined in such a way. Very emotional, very moving. Thank you for the great content.
Every time I think you have outdone yourself with your sense of humor, you go and kick it up another notch in your next video. Sir, you are freaking hilarious. Thank you so much for putting a smile on my face. I suffer from depression, and watching your videos helps a ton.
Thank you for speaking briefly on Reactive Attachment Disorder. I adopted my daughter at age 6. She has severe Reactice Attachment Disorder and she has attempted to murder me several times, along with a slew of other violent behaviors. We have participated in extensive therapy, seminars, in-patient hospitalizations, spiritual support and so on. It’s a disorder that defies logic and leaves the entire family traumatized.
That’s awful, I’m so sorry. May I ask how old she is?
That's crazy I mean I'm one to never give up on someone I care about unless they do something beyond Bad...something EVIL..and trying to kill me meets that criteria though if it's a mental disorder and we know for a fact he or she can't control ..man that's a tough one but I think I'd most likely stand by them and keep trying to somehow resolve these issues but I couldn't fault anyone who couldn't handle it
its why single mothers stay single
Thank you for continuing to try to be her mother despite her violent behavior, many would have put her back in foster care
God bless you fir trying to help
His disconnect is actually painful and shows how messed up he is. Sad.The lawyer sees the irony but the fact that this kid doesn't is just so disturbing.
“I don’t think the system is racist I just think the system hates people.” -Tom McDonald
When my mom passed away on a blood clot that gave her a heart attack, and I found out, I couldn’t cry, we had not talked for three years and then I’m about two or three months I believe it was right before she passed away we kind of started talking again And then I had to fly from Virginia to Colorado and I didn’t make it before she did pass away. I think I cried for like a minute or two and then I didn’t cry at the wake for the get together we had after work and I didn’t speak to anybody for three years, unless it was an emergency, or I had no other choice but to open my mouth to someone, my mother was very abusive to me. I love my mother because she was my mother, but I hated her with every ounce of empathy and me there was a man absolutely nothing I wish there was, but there was none. Now my grandmother Was my father‘s mother when she passed away that about killed me because I believe my mother was schizophrenic or just plain psychotic and so my grandmother raised me she was my mother my mom is my mom, so I can very well see why he had no empathy for what he did It’s horrible that he couldn’t feel anything when he did what he did not even enough to shed one tear however, all we see you on the phrase is it just what is shown in the interrogation room and what’s been told about the murder and what does Lawyer have to say about the situation, we truly do not know what has happened to that kid except for the fact that she adopted him and we all have to assume that she loved him because we have to take the situation at face value but unless it is specifically said, we absolutely don’t know if that woman beat the hell out of him each and every day and unfortunately unless you’re in that situation or whatever situation he lived with her and you were specifically there throughout his life then the only thing you were going to see in here is what he did to his mother, which sucks because I would’ve liked to of known the overall situation just besides the fact that she and then he killed her
Maybe she adopted him to add another possession to her collection and fulfill her messianic fantasies.
I hope the mother rest in peace
Why would a child comprehend the irony of their behavior? Complex thoughts are usually a trait developed after the prefrontal cortex is developed, which doesn’t happen until after adolescence
You and your son are the best! Love ALL THE CRAZY stuff you guys cover! I always learn so much from you!
Back in 2015, she was arrested for child abuse against the sibling, and this kid, Carlos, supported her. The allegations stated she would lock him (angel) up in a room and starve him. Charges were later dropped due to lack of evidence. She still lost her job as a teacher though. If the allegations were true, I can understand why he would've done it. Especially if it was just them two living together, its still not a good excuse for murder. I believe her sister also claimed she was abusive towards them, but I'm not too sure about the last part.
There was never a shred of evidence supporting that allegation and even the dumbest kid today knows what to say to justify just any action (abuse). Also Installing security cameras points to the opposite of abuse. It not only would have cemented evidence against the mother-who clearly never would have wanted that if the allegations were true- but it also showsthe level of fear the mother had. An abuser doesn’t fear the victim. And he wouldn’t have come back after staying somewhere else for several months if there had been abuse. His mother was reluctant to take him in again. He lied, that’s all.
@@Celisar1 I'm not saying anything either way in this case, I don't know the true, full details; so I can't say. I just want to point out that abuse manifests in various ways. I've seen plenty of cases of abuse where the abusers set up cameras or other monitoring devices around, for all sorts of reasons. And abuse victims go back to their abuser all the time? It's often because they feel like they have to, whether (perceived, or sometimes trained to believe in) obligations, or (at least thinking) they have no other options, etc.
It will never cease to amaze me how many of these people actually think they committed the perfect crime. You’ll always get caught: don’t do the big bad thing.
Not everyone gets caught. Actually most are never solved u just don’t see them on KZhead because it’s not as entertaining
Lol You need to look into how many cases never get solved. “You’ll always get caught” is just blatantly false
@@cherrelleg8276I wouldn't say most, but Many are unsolved.
@@cherrelleg8276 No, not most. Some.
Idiots get caught, people who love cellphones get caught.
I saw this need for his brain to mature happen with my own nephew. He finally grew up around 27 years old but had two felony strikes by then. He’s not been in trouble (legal trouble) in the 20 years since then. He grew up without coping skills that he didn’t develop for a long time. Our young men need more help than they get, really.
It's backed up by extensive research using MRIs. The area responsible for understanding consequences is fully developed at roughly 24.5 years.
Yeah man a lot of who we are in our early years is purely socioeconomic conditions pressing down on us. A lot of people who others define as criminals are very regretful and did not fully understand the weight of their actions. This is why most criminals are so young.
For all the talk from conservative powerful people, who believe that raising children is so important, in a society that claims to love and protect children, we really fall short on the care of these children. In addition. , some of these rich folks could do more to help. And we also need to Overhaul pur child protection services ( Department of Children and family services, or wjatever they are called.
People under 25 hate when you talk about this because they think that it means you are belittling them. I was already married, bought my home, and had decent jobs by then. But you know what? I still wasn't the same mature that I am now in my late 30s. Sure at 23 for example I was way more mature and understood things better than I did at 18 but I wasn't 100% there yet. The way I've told people it felt was that at about 25 I woke up one day and a lot of stuff made sense. And then at about 30 I knew how to use that stuff that made sense in my life because I had time to actually practice using my brain to think completely. But then about 35 I really understood more and gave up (this is partially a joke, mostly covid related)
It's because they don't have positive male role models in their lives. They can do their best, but a woman can't raise a man. I know most think that's not true, and I know there are plenty of examples, but that's part of the problem. If the words "wait until your father hears about this" doesn't strike fear in a boy's head, the father is to blame.
As usual very good insight from Counselor Rivers. Thanks for always pointing out what's missing in certain individuals and reaffirming the humanity in the rest of us.
Bruce, I do think that children can understand consequences. Every action a child does has either a positive reaction or a negative reaction. It basically comes down to parenting children. It doesn’t matter you’re social economic status, or the marital status of a parent. It basically begins at an early stage with a toddler; using the word “no!” is a good beginning. Thanks to you and your son for providing this clip. Stay safe and happy everyone.
I agree with you 100% as far as children understand consequences, and with every action there is a reaction, but to what extent? Children are selfish individuals by nature, it's part of growing; experiences and gaining empathy. I think where they fall short is seeing how their actions affect others. They know they will have consequences, but not necessarily the harm they are doing to everyone else around them.
He didn’t say they don’t understand consequences. He said they don’t understand future consequences. Like my dog understands the immediate consequences of stealing all the food from the kibble bag (I get mad). She doesn’t understand potential future consequences (no food for tomorrow because it’s ordered online). Same with teenagers and drunk driving. Current consequences of being caught are deemed acceptable(parents get mad/cops get called) vs potential future outcome (losing license/manslaughter charges/severe disability) are not considered or dismissed immediately as a possibility.
Or some kids know about future consequences, they just don't care enough at times
I have a friend who had adopted many foster children along with her regular family. Total 11. Husband owned an engineering company so wasn't about money. She adopted another child (adopted) from a couple from their church....Oh my goodness. This young girl had DETACHMENT DISORDER. Within a year (despite counseling, private bedroom (for safety etc), and a lot of intervention, this little girl became more and more dangerous behavior hiding knives, coffee pot, and tools in her bedroom. There was more that wasn't shared with me. But the family didnt feel safe. The parents petitioned the courts to cancel the adoption and the child was surrendered back to the state. She has been institutionalized since.😢 That ax picture was horrid. PS Sorry if this triggered people. There are many varibles. Im certain that foster personalities like these: drug abuse and pre-existing mental health issues in the parents as well as environmental sutuations, the parent's histories/the legacy that gets passed down for generations.
They let people know she was institutionalized?
It was about money. They had money, so they could afford to do this.
*Reactive Attachment Disorder.
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@@Chic_Ken You are embarrassing yourself.
I think we can all quite easily agree with the detective's assessment/diagnosis. Kid didn't show a single iota of emotion until the detective put forth a subtle accusation... to which he very suddenly seemed 10 times more bothered by being labeled a sociopath than the fact that his mother was found with her head damn near cleaved in two by an axe.
It's called dissociation and is a survival tactic employed by abused children. A true sociopath trying to get away with this would be bawling their eyes out for the purpose of performing the role of Victim
The truth hurts.
@@elizabethstafford5773 Truth is neither good nor bad, it just is. Our belief persistence in the presence of evidence to the contrary is what hurts us. Then again, we have no control over the circumstances that leads to the degree of our belief persistence
Also someone with ASPD would be unlikely to get visibly angry in this scenario, that would more likely of narcissism. Callousness / reduced affect are symptoms of multiple disorders
@@TheKrispyfortYep. But if you're lucky enough or self educate, you can learn to view yourself and your own biases objectively and make changes over time. Just have to strengthen critical thinking skills and objective reasoning and recognize feelings are real but don't often comport with reality. Might hate a thing but that thing might be objectively harmless so even if you feel a way, if you understand it's a bias you can change your behaviors and over time your feelings can catch up. But we need more people to have easy access to such knowledge in the first place. Too few seem to understand such basic things.
I love your message to the teens and all of us! If everyone would live after that rule the world would be a great place!
You are hilarious. I laughed so hard - and then felt horrible for laughing at the cost of such a heinous crime - but then laughed again 🥴 at how dumb this guy was - albeit with minimal guilt.. 😏 Good for you for being able to psychologically distance yourself from some pretty horrible crimes so that you can be effective (and remain sane) - it takes a lot of work to do that.
So did we! His gallows humor is magnificent and it's great to know someone else appreciates it. Our lawyer almost fell out of his chair when he read "sharpening the axe" and we almost fell out of ours. Whew!
I grew up the daughter of an attorney. There was no getting anything by him. I would be interrogated until I admitted fault. The only advantage of this was a knowledge at a very young age, that I really couldn’t get away with being an idiot. It is idiotic to believe you can get away with murder ever. This seems obvious, but I guess not to everyone.
Well let’s see how Ynw melly goes next month.
Kilary and Obama seemed to get away with a lot
Adam 32 the real criminal, trump, will be going to prison.
@@Adam32777 Yeah, but Trump is so narcissistic and stupid he thinks he can get away with anything...even stealing top secret intelligence reports to sell to the leaders of North Korea and Russia, his autocratic buddies. Thank goodness Barron's intelligence will come from his mother's X chromosome.
51percent of murders go unsolved.....
I was born in Lima Peru and was given an adoption by my Mom when I was a baby. I definitely did and am still working through my attachment & identity issues/disorder as a grown woman. It’s definitely crippling and hurts every fiber of your being but with the right supports and self love you can believe that YOU on your own is lovable and belong! May his mother RIP, all she wanted was to love her baby and bring him here for a better life
I was never adopted but I was in Foster Care and a Group Home from January 97 to August 2001 and it was pretty damn tough for me too as 2 of the homes I was in Mistreated me but still I never even thought of killing them so this idiot has no excuse for what he did...I know all about Mental Issues as I'm still going thru them and probably always will but I hope u are some day soon able to escape the shadows that envelop U..also you're a cutie
If you let something happen to you as a child affect you this much as an adult you’re just a weak person who cares who your mother is a who you came from you get to decide who you are now if you’re wining about it it’s just a crutch
If you let something happen to you as a child affect you this much as an adult you’re just a weak person who cares who your mother is a who you came from you get to decide who you are now if you’re wining about it it’s just a crutch
Wow, check out your judgmental attitude, you know nothing about this person's life and what they've been through. @@Utriedit215
@@Utriedit215 - Wow…who is the sociopath now! Geez…🙄😳😒
So glad I stumbled upon this channel again, binge watching everything you have out
As an adult who displays very little emotion even, or especially during highly emotional times, even I was struck by this teen’s ability to catalog what he saw without visible reactions.
Are you possible on the autism spectrum? I'm starting to think I may be. I have ADD also. I don't react when I should in the same way you stated. Neuro diverse for sure for me.
I love that Bruce is so unapologetically himself, and his personality is the type that I get along with pretty easily so this channel is always so refreshing and entertaining to watch.
I’d love to see him in action in a court of law…he has absolutely no filter, raw all the way to the bone-absolutely human, the best! It would be reaaallly hard to reel that back in, on a “professional” level, so to speak (only cuz they have to for the courts and all 😏)…but somehow I’m sure he manages, would not be easy though! 😂he’s just so GD free and raw, unfiltered to the Nth degree…the way every human being should be, people would feel so much better about things…just telling the truth!
I agree 💯
agreed. He makes me want to be a lawyer. I wonder if he's ever been held in contempt or warned by a judge, possibly for even laughing?@@LiLHarOak
The scariest part of this was when I realized what the picture was. I originally thought it was a skull with a portion blurred out so we couldn’t see the damage. I can’t tell you how long I stared before realizing it’s an X-ray and the big “blurred” portion is actually the axe. Truly terrifying! I don’t want to imagine what she looked like physically.
I thought the same thing.
I thought that too!
I stared at it too, now I’m going to watch it again.. thanks!!
I just watched it again and thanks to you,I saw it right away. Wow and wow. smh.
Extremely bloody scene !🧠🧠🩸🩸
Welll.. Now I guess now I'm binge watching episodes.. Just in that kind of mood..all great stuff.. Thanks Bruce and Michael!! ❤ Love From Canada 🇨🇦
Thank you Michael for all your hard work and of course Bruce! Great video guys!!
A friends daughter adopted 2 boys ages 8 and 6.She had a lengthy introduction time with them. After adoption the older one became difficult to handle. She found out later his birth parents had abused him. As a teen among many other problems he threatened to kill her. He was in and out of trouble in juvenile court. She tried finally to relinquish rights of him but was told she couldn't. The adoption agency lied to them by with holding information that may have changed their mind about the adoption. The younger one had learning disabilities and was beginning to take up the older child's bad behaviors ( lying, petty theft, bad attitude ).It was such a sad mess.
I know it's been a few months, but got any updates?
Damn a really similar thing happened to my family when I was younger. Had two foster siblings and the sheet with all the older boy’s diagnoses was “accidentally left out” of the information my parents received about him.
I mean to not want to adopt a kid because he was abused is kind of sh*tty. Doesn't seem like the behavior of a loving parent, so maybe all of the blame shouldn't be on the former parents.
@@QnzColdest it’s an all around sh*tty situation absolutely. And it’s absolutely to blame on the former parents. It’s not the kids fault but that doesn’t mean you should put your life at risk. They need professional help, if you are not equipped to help them then they need someone who can. A bio child with dangerous behavior would also need to be placed in a residential treatment facility. It’s horrible all around for everyone involved
@@humansizedbirdnest9435it's one reason why a lot of parents want to adopt newborns, so that they are not yet missed up. I've also been reading when agencies do try to place an older kid (don't know OPs friend situation) they try to put them with the same race of the adopted parents, and if a single woman or single man tries to adapt they try to place a same sex teen/child. That way they could connect better. A good agency or adaption judge will also grant a trial period, to see if both adult and child connect. If this kid had a trial period with an adult male of color, some one he could throw a football with, there is a lot better chance he would have felt appreciated in love.
Beard certified criminal defense lawyer. Happy 1 million man, I’ll be waiting for that subscriber party in Vegas now that you guys have a million. Well deserved. We appreciate you
Really enjoy these video And this criminal defense lawyer has an amazing personality, open minded and understanding. Thank you for these videos!!
“Everything they see [on social media] is a measure against themself.” Brutal truth.
I'm a happily married woman in my late-40s, and I gotta say - I'm loving the hell out of the beard. Not every guy can pull it off, but Bruce's got that whole silver fox thing going on, and I'm here for it. 🤘😎
I’m a 60 year old happily married woman and completely agree with you! 👍🏽😎🧔🏻♂️
I am older than both of you, and I'm in!😊😊 (Have a good evening)!
Very handsome!!
I'm a happily married woman in my early 30s and I agree!
I’m in my 20s and as the youngest here; I am also loving the silver fox look 🤩
I am always impressed when Attorney Rivers turns to the cameras and directs younger people to be aware of life changing decisions. Possibly Producer Rivers should make an old school reel with Bruce Rivers top five “Don’t fuck up your life - teenager edition”! Of course, a “No Self Snitching” Prolog!
I love that Infound you. Love the way you process the interviews
Bruce i really respect how much you fully support your son... my father worked his ass off to support our family an i will always be extremely grateful for rasing me to respect my elders he just wasn't the kind of father that gave compliments an never told me he loved me...i know he loves be but it would have been nice to hear your son is a lucky man to have you as a father
The beauty of a narcissist is that they can't stop talking.
"Teens don't understand consequences" That depends on how they were raised. My dad drilled the concept of consequences into my head starting when I was like 8 or 9. I had a solid grasp on consequences when I was a teenager. That kept me out of so much trouble that my friends got into.
I'm 62 and my dad did the same.He was a really good man.He let all of 4 kids know that all your actions have consequences. And he always said unaliving is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Did you dad beat you and your mom then leave you without important life lessons? Did he die right after he got out of prison?
@@sqredreaperwhy would you ask these questions? If you are asking because this happened to you I’m very sorry that happened. I believe that most adults need some sort of counseling. There is nothing wrong with looking to someone for help or direction in our lives.
You walked to school uphill 10 miles both ways in snow too huh? 😂
@@sqredreaper 1: Me yes(when I was older, started at around 15), my mom no 2: Nope didn't leave or go to prison.
I adopted my daughter at 5 months. She is 25 now, plagued with mental disorders starting at 5 yo. Yes, she hasn’t shown any murderous tendencies but I wouldn’t be surprised….. Fortunately, she doesn’t live with us and has a boyfriend to keep her in line. When the brain is messed up, it is hard to overcome. Very sad life!
Do you think real parent-child emotional connection is biological?
@@alexanderchenf1it’s not studies showed you can get those without the blood
Always enjoy your content!
Wow! This story is just heartbreaking. She literally adopted her murderer.
Yes so painful to see l feel sad for her
A good example of why the United States needs to stop allowing these illegals into the country. She should have adopted an American baby.
Yah and some people also gave birth to their own killer, and some even get married to their own killer. what's your point ?
@@Jean-jw4hwthe point was it’s sad. Triggered much?
Not even just that, some people are their own ender. We are very flawed. Life is not easy.
"Fuck! I should never have adopted that kid." - Bruce Rivers CLR... I love it.
She spent 13 very unlucky years with this monster
Boy you sure hit the nail on the head about the impact of social media on our society today.
I’m glad I found this channel. It’s rare in this day and age to find a person that just tells it like it is, regardless of how it sounds. It’s so refreshing to hear honest takes.
No one in the history of ever , who was even remotely normal ,would come upon a murder victim killed by another and say to themselves:"Oh no! A dead person! ! I'd better chop them up/throw away their stuff/ set fire to their house so no one thinks I had anything to do with it!". And yet, "I panicked, and...." is a classic. It's so much more fun to watch this interrogation a second time with your commentary! It's terrible, but I laughed all through this thing. I am a bad, bad person.
People panic
@JDogggg69 people dont normally panic to the point of chopping up a random dead body they came across & had nothing to do with originally and burning the house down in order to ensure they arent assumed a suspect, lol
As an adopted child myself... I don't think we attach like other people do, no matter how good the family is. Not necessarily to the point of psychopathy, but I notice we can withstand really difficult situations without reacting emotionally as well as tending to cut off relationships that aren't working for us. Not generally with an axe, though.
Your last sentence made me laugh. Please take my like.
bet you hold your parents race against them.
@@scrotuspotus6632this sounds like self hating projection.
I'm adopted and can tell you that my adopted parents are my real parents. End of story.
@@VeredBen-Avraham-nh9eu that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.
OMG! Your laughter brightens😅 and "humor" my day!! Love it, love you! Love the relationship between you and your Michael 💖. You are both so blessed! Thank you for all you both do and bringing so much joy😂 to so many. Much love
I adopted a baby boy at 6 months, but when you adopt an older kid, it’s taking a chance, kids have had horrific backgrounds,
I met a John Howard Society worker. She said men either get it together by 20 yrs old or they are in their late 30s or never. Big gap in-between. It's so sad that fathers are portrayed so disrespectfully in media. We desperately need good fathers!!
Bruce, you crack me up big time! “Sorry we offended you, please, be on your way. Here’s your axe.”
Watching you save in my bed here in Christchurch new Zealand,you are my favourite channel now, love the witty comments from you and the videos are great watching ..keep up the great work 😊😊
I’ve seen a KZhead video about this. He’s calm and articulate as hell!!! They have a gut feeling Bruce.
My husband has had a beard on and off for decades. When our youngest was a toddler, he shaved it off after having it for about a year. Youngest walked up to him, placed her hands on his face, and said, “I’m so happy, Daddy! Now I can see your cheeks!” We still say that now every time he shaves off the beard, and that was like sixteen years ago now. ❤
Towards the beginning of the pandemic, my dad shaved his beard because he’s an infectious disease specialist and it was recommended he shave to better fit his mask over his face. I found this change a bit unnerving because he’s had a beard all my life
KEEP THE BEARD BRUCE! I DON’T LIKE FACIAL HAIR BUT YOU LOOK HOT!
@@starspangledsquirrelM Right? That's one manly beard!
@@resplndnt The sad thing is, he's shaved and re-grown it so many times now that I barely notice! Lol, I'm just so used to seeing him both with and without it (and these days he goes back and forth pretty quickly, though as the weather starts cooling he'll probably grow and keep it until spring), it usually isn't until he kisses me that I realize there's no more beard but there was one that morning! Which, now that I think of it, is rather unnerving for me, too. It makes me feel bad that I didn't notice immediately. (In my defense, the beard is silvery these days, he keeps it pretty short, and he's fairly pale. Also in my defense, we've been married over 23 years and are very happy; it's just that I look into his eyes, not at his jaw!)
@@dqverify6797 wow! 23 years is amazing! You guys obviously are a great team! I just started a business and would love to send Bruce a business related gift, how would I go about doing that? I’ll put something in for you too!
Asking the child to Leave isn’t just for the safety of the adult, but to protect the child from his own impulsivity and to try to get him help before he ends up in justice system. It’s also a realistic consequence and boundary setting
Love your content Sir, thank you
Could listen to you all day.. I found you a few days ago. Love your humor and personality.
Attachment disorder is a terrible thing to witness. My husband and I were in the foster system to adopt because we were not able to have our own kids. One of the babies we had in our care was 2 1/2 and we were her 8 time she had been bounced around and she had attachment disorder terribly. Is was awful to see the impact it had on her. She was in a world of her own and there was no getting through to her. Unfortunately the system would not give us the help we needed to deal with her issues and we could not handle her. It was so very heartbreaking all the way around 😢
As sad as this is! I’m glad you didn’t put yourself in a situation you couldn’t handle! We need help in the system!
I feel like I didn't become a real person until 30. Like I'd fast-forwarded through my 20s cuz there wasn't much to see, and there really wasn't. Aging does some people wonders. It did for me.
That's a huge disassociative disorder. Similar things are seen in kids born and raised in refugee camps
This is why the anti-abortion nut job stance sucks so much. None of the anti-abortion nuts give two shits about the kids after they are born.
@@vibratinggoddess1111exactly ❤
The fact that this dummy thought he’d get away with putting an axe in the back of his own mothers head, after he broke her arm and created absolute chaos in her home, is just beyond. New sub here! Gonna go binge now :)
Oh my gosh you're in for a treat! All kinds of different cases you'll see, and Bruce is SO damn likeable. He's got a great sense of humor and has tons of professional experience and life experience. I learn sounding everytime I watch and I laugh everytime I watch. Have fun binging!! 💯
His adoptive mom…don’t forget
@@dapplegray6577 touché 😭
I'M your newest biggest fan! Your reactions are spot on! Love your content! I Will be binge watching all weekend now! 😊
I had friend in high school, 1965, who told me that he wished his patents "cared enough" about him to set boundaries. He understood what setting limits really means.
This was a really sad case. Imagine from her perspective in the years leading up to her death… she must have been noticing strange antisocial behavior from him and getting progressively more scared of him and desperate in her situation. To fear your child, whom you undoubtedly also love, just horrible. And if somehow Bruce reads this, I appreciate your sense of humor and how you balance it with empathy in your videos. You have such a fresh perspective compared to a lot of other true crime content (which I also enjoy), and it’s interesting to hear about cases from your view.
Rest in peace to the poor mom 💔
Wonder if it was the antidepressants?? Some people can have a bad reaction to them.
Yea, Bruce is very rational and smart. Like he said, "if he broke my arm? Oh you're going to a fucking home. A juvenile facility. See ya later." Id have pressed charges for breaking my arm and had him committed until he was 18 or sent to one of those highly abusive work camps they sent paris hilton to. 😂 out of love, of course.
@@Janellabelle Right.. acting like the child is a dog that he can just return to the shelter he came from. Then they wonder why these kids end up with such anger towards the people who raised them.
Bruce: "there's no problem that can be solved with an axe that can't be solved with words" me: *standing outside having a serious conversation with my logs that refuse to split themselves*
I heard about this before but glad we got to review this case with you ! The beard looks good its like a distinguished experienced look . 👍👍
Literally makes my day when I see you posted a video! You and Michael(content genius of course), are doing a great job! Keep doing what you’re doing💯
Yes..too bad these cases are so very sad or sick. Or both.
@@catmansmathey can be sick and sad, but it's reality....unfortunately. IMO be specific to which ones you view. Just saying
My mom was verbally abusive and there was no having a conversation with her to work things out, but i never ever contemplated putting an ax thru her head. Not even a fantasy of it. This kid is sick. Thanks for making me laugh thru thus horrible thing, Bruce and Content Genius. Love you guys!
Yeah, this kid definitely had an axe to grind in his mother
Me too. I was in a very abusive foster home for years. It never occurred to me that murder could be an option.
Lot of people are sick and barely holding on. Have you tried to get mental help without insurance?
It is different with kids who were actually physically abused. Verbal abuse is bad, but it crosses a whole different line if your mom actually put hands on you. If what he alleged was true(with the physical abuse and stuff) I could understand him. I mean, I had a pal who was raped multiple times by his grandfather as a kid and the family stood behind the pedophile and accused him of making stuff up. He then made plans to kill his entire family which was found and he got institutionalized for a while. He doesn't feel as homicidal nowadays but I don't blame him for wanting to kill his family. One thing you people forget when you call someone the devil is that sometimes their life is just hell. Hell that you could never imagine without having been there.
Same here. Mine was so overwhelmed by anxiety that everything was a catastrophe and she could go from zero to a hundred in no time flat. Talking was not going to happen; nothing was ever truly solved. I never thought of killing her either. If I was going to kill anyone, it was going to be myself. This was 50 years ago, but I still remember how I felt at the time.
Bruce, great video reaction and advice. You’re so right about cops needing higher education standards or have enough health professionals on the force to intervene when ppl come in with hellacious injuries. You’re a lovely human being ❤❤
I love the beard!! I just found your channel recently and I love it!! I'm so hooked!!
Nina, calm down over there. We can see your drooling. 😂😂😂
Very sad this whole situation. My mother abused me, raped me, beat me. I still wouldn't have had it in me at that age to put an axe in her head. I couldn't do it now at 40. I wonder what was so bad between them that this youngster threw her and his life away. Just very sad.
I’m so sorry you’ve been through all that. I wish you all the peace and happiness.
I'm grown now with two nieces and newphews that I love very much. :) Life is good. But thank you. @@noble_experiment
I would've done something if I were you
Love can only work if both people involved can actually feel the emotion.
42:43 I constantly fall asleep watching KZhead and I have to go where it rolls over to the next video. Although my phone is still it looks like I’m watching videos over and over and over again over 7 hours 🤣
You’re a great father! I have a special relationship with my two boys(10 & 13) where they are able to speak to me like pals, though they understand that when it’s time to work especially on their schoolwork, dad becomes serious. Your relationship with Michael encourages me to keep going because I’d like that at 26 like him, they should be able to spend time with me and not feel like we can’t relate at any level! I had a strict vertical relationship with my father, and when he turned 60(I was 30 at the time), we had very little in common, we never argued or anything because I was still scared of him, but I never knew what to say to him. He got really hurt on many occasions because he had to hear a lot about me from my mother, eg that I bought myself a car, that I met someone etc etc, but it was hard for me because I was not used to discussing stuff with him like that. We did make progress but it was tough. I’m learning from you BR and MR!!!
Most parents, even in tough times, have nothing but unconditional love for their kids. And they will always be those same old kids, regardless of age. Situations like this are horrible. Poor woman must have felt extreme grief as this relationship got worse and worse.
Bruce's sense of humor is vicious!😂 I laughed and felt guilty about it...😢
I always thought it was of the upmost importance to somehow teach my children empathy. With my son , he shot a lizard with his BB gun and I sat down with him and asked him if he thought maybe it’s parents or brother or sister were waiting for it to come home and play. And it would never get to go home and play. He began to try to awaken it and felt bad. With my daughter she loved to catch frogs. And I told her make sure not to hurt them and put them back so they could go back home and play. They both learned empathy. Whether it is just part of their character or taught to them I can only guess. But I get the feeling this boy was never denied until the time he broke her arm. But who knows. I did read an article a few years back that questioned if psychopaths and sociopaths were born that way or made that way. I tend to think it’s somewhat both. This young man was probably doted on and bragged on a lot as a child.
this was sad but also great vid. thanks homies
The way to can "spin humor " in grim moments is quite masterful.Thank you for lessons of the law and the smiles on my face.Very much appreciated.
the second he starts getting mad you can tell the rage and aggression is in him. its only held back because theyre cops, but even then its barely below the surface. frightening the impact neglect and abuse has on people.
And grown men where he was used to beating his mom .
Just found this channel, and Bruce is funnier than hell!! Subbed immediately!
It is pretty much impossible to describe the intensity of a parent’s love for their child to someone who hasn’t felt it but you, Bruce, do a good job of it.
My wife's first husband thinks exactly like these teens. He's 45 and has been doing drugs since his teens. He always has these crazy 'dreams' that he'll get clean, become a success at whatever he's thinking of that week, etc, etc. Only good thing is he hasn't thought of murder to get there.
The ax was almost completely through her head! Many don't ever stop to think about what all those involved in the justice system have to see along with healthcare professionals and those that have the horrific task of cleaning up afterwards. I don't know how anyone deals with that and would think if you didn't find a way to have a sense of humor about it you might eventually not be able to deal with it anymore. Which is exactly what happens to our combat veterans.
@@tradez5799but how does this affect your world view? Like your town? And other people you meet? I’ve been curious on this, so please a thoughtful answer.
@@TheAntonioclewisI'm curious about this as well
@@TheAntonioclewis You stop pearl-clutching over every dead moron you hear about.
@TheAntonioclewis "but how does this affect your world view? Like your town? And other people you meet?" ... ...view on what exactly? Seems like a pretty vague question.
Hello Mr. Rivers ~ Enjoy watching your channel and your breakdowns on each case. I did have a question though, in your years of working, have you ever had a client that did something so reprehensible, that you just couldn't defend? Just wondering...
What a shame bc you at least know she raised him well enough to be an eloquent speaker. If she did that, she probably cared about other aspects of his future & prob wanted the best for him. She was trying to rescue a kid & give him a bright future. Edit: After watching EWU Crime Storytime on this, I now don’t know what to think of Denise as a parent.
I love how Bruce sums it all up when he sees that the kid was sharpening the ax! 😂 Working with the public is very hard..I truly appreciate Bruce’s sense of humor!