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2:13 Paul Gallen loving the Gould stamp of approval 😂
Its been over hyped because the poster boy of the comp is the one that got injured and out for a extended period.
Exactly
May was off his feet launching his head at Walsh
Its not netball brother@pauljcross2289
Which will have a direct adverse effect on the game
@@jamescrawford1492so illegal play is legal because it’s not a different sport?
I agree with the Gal and Phil
1:06 why is the responsibility always on the defender? Because the defender by the nature of the game is the one trying to make contact, the attacker is trying to avoid it. The one seeking contact is the one responsible for the nature of the contact.
its an avoidable accident. like getting in a car drunk and then saying its an accident when you hit someone. defenders jobs is to avoid contact with the head. All May had to do was drop his height to make shoulder contact with the chest and the "accident" never happens.
The shoulder contact was with the chest, the only thing to hit Reece Walsh's head was Taylan Mays head
@darrell3975 it was chest to chest contact which means your upright and the head can only hit one thing, the other person's head. Shoulder contact to the chest means the head is to the side of Walsh's body.
Gal is right, why isnt Laurie in trouble? He split the Cowboys players head, he has a duty of care not to make contact and split the defenders head. What if two players from the same team accidentally clash heads. Do you suspend both of them for being careless?
Taylan may jumped off the ground into Walsh head. It's clearly reckless. Watch it and take notice.
If Cleary had copped that instead of Walsh, Gus and the other clown would be squealing: "EIGHT WEEKS!!!", in righteous indignation....
Unfortunately cleary would tolorate it and probably cop it and move on cause accidents happens cleary would probably trust his right hand man luai to cover for him in his absence
Well said guys! Thanks Gallen & Gus
100% correct. Want the game faster, more accidents will happen
Paul gallen is spot on about the deffenders being held responsible for tackles made by them. The truth is Rugby is a contact sport so its horses for corses.
Here's a clue for these 2. It's poor technique. They are taught things that are dangerous. If you're raising up into contact, you're exponentially more likely to make contact with the head. That makes it, by definition DANGEROUS. It's careless and dangerous. If he did NOT raise up into the contact, there would have been no head clash. The onus is on the defender, because it's ON THEM TO ENSURE THEY DON'T TACKLE ABOVE THE SHOULDERS. THAT is why it's on the defenders. A ball carrier can't control whether the defender strays high and tackles them above the shoulder unless they're ducking into the contact putting themselves in danger. If the defender tackled with better technique, these collisions would be SIGNIFICANTLY reduced. It's that simple. End of story.
No need to lauch yourself into the air to tackle. Trevor Gilmister used to cut blokes in half. Players need to be educated on how to tackle safely, hard but safe.
That's a problem due to size of the players. The big guys have trouble getting low. Hardly any bootlace tackles.
Gilmeister was 4 foot 10. Of course he is going to tackle the opposition midriff
Phbrand: maybe you'd like all the players to wear inflatable rubber suits so they just bounce off each other
You have never played the game
Latrell Mitchell tackle (head clash) on Joey Manu wasn't or didn't appear to be well thought out.Latrell had no regard for how he tackled him and he was lucky but Joey wasn't.
the defender leaves the ground, doesnt wrap the arms... if this was literally anyone else hitting for example cleary, youd bet a charge would of been laid XD
if May continues to tackle and put his head in that position he is going to have a lot more head clashes , don't believe he did it on purpose .
All i want to say is... I hope Walshy/May gets better soon and a fast recovery. Duty of care is ensuring they receive all the support they need to overcome their injuries. Supporting them with rehabilitation is far more important. If you or i were to make a mistake, we would learn from it . Our elders are the ones we turn to for advice and support outside of NRL . The NRL needs to ensure that it is upheld on the inside. The emotional/physiological merry go round would be immense for any player at NRL level. I do believe that the Broncos would be the best team in the competition to uphold player's care, but some of the not so financially capable teams may need help in this area .
That's right......bring up soccer. Just look at the players from the 80's......they can hardly remember who they are due to head incidents and fights.
2:51 May leaves his feet, didn't have to do that.
Do we eventually reach the point where an attacking player drops the head in to get a send off?
I do agree with Gus, but would be keen to see how he reacts when this happens to a Bulldogs player and if he will have the same level energy against the "duty of care".
May was trying to avoid the head clash, it is why he only got Walsh's cheek with his chin.
He left the ground before impact, though. The defender obviously has a brief to rough the fullback up by 'pressuring' him. When he's careless and things go wrong you can't complain about the consequences. Once Reece Walsh left the field the game was over. Keep that same enegy if sides start targeting the golden boy out at Penrith every week.
Karen this comment doesn’t make much sense I think your mum needs to rethink your KZhead time allowance
I Couldnt agree more with gal on this one
Let’s be real here. No attempt of bending his knees or going low. He just ran up threw his whole body at Reece head and shoulders. Suspension should be laid
This games a joke, Gal is 100% right
just no
its becoming gay
The game is a joke, but not for what Gal is whining about. In fact, Gal and Gus miss the plot with this.
Duty of Care is totally BS, it was invented by Health and Safety to allow Companies to put the blame back onto the employee if an accident happened.
It was a accidental head clash. Get over it.
For once I agree with Gal, it was literally an accident, it’s a contact sport, and accidents happen
And not one of the players or the crowd reacted when it happened. Absolutely nothing in it
We played the game to get injured back when, look i understand that players are kept from injury because they are worth millions to play, i guess Gal you need to realise this isnt the game we all love, its a corporate game made for gambling now days. Worst thing for the game was allowing it to be bet on.
Totally agree, all the vegas rd was about was the betting dollar
Gus and Gal are spot on tbh. It was 100% accident. First view I thought it was careless high shot but subsequent views I can see it was an accidental head clash.
I agree with Gus and Gal. It was a total accident. May wasn't running into walsh to make a tackle. They both just bumped into each other 😂
If May isn’t running in to make a tackle, then he has absolutely no business being there at all.
The tackler screamed out of the line and just threw his body at Walsh with no apparent attempt to tackle him legally. If Walsh slipped half an inch then the Penrith player is probably getting sent off for a shoulder charge and likely missing several weeks: the same standard ought to have been applied in this incident.
Finally people with common sense. Graham Anneseley is a complete fool, what is this “jurisdiction of care” on the defender, this is contact sport mate, players don’t mean to hurt or injure the opposition player when making a tackle but things go wrong, people get hurt, it’s a physical game, it always has been for the past century, injuries and accidents are apart of this game and the athletes who play this game know that, they put their bodies on the line for there team week in week out. By that logic of the defender having care on the attacking player is like telling someone, here’s a gun, shoot this person in the head but don’t kill him, that’s how stupid it sounds. The only reason this blew up to extraordinary lengths is because it happened on NRL’s poster boy Walsh and he brings in tickets and merchandise sales, if it was on a B-list player no one would give a rats.
I do agree but in saying so the Penrith lad did jump off the ground which doesn't look good . Still it was accidental.
May saw him pass the ball. If may tackles him, it's a late tackle. So he just tried to bump chests with him. As May is taller his chin hit his head. Pure accident, move on
That is good old rugby league, PNG.
That’s footy accidents happen on the field
This is a body contact sport it was an accident. It has been a tough game since I was a toddler.
At this point the NRL may as well play touch
Say what you want, the defender probably shouldn't be allowed to jump into a tackle like that.
Hargraves got suspended
Reece Walsh hops around like a kangaroo and it is impossible to tackle him without risking head injury.
So all accidents are legal now? Thompson of the Knights got banned for an accidental collision on player in the air, couldve broke his neck...but it was an accident. So you can be as careless and wreckless as you want now.
Why is it Reeces left eye, then right eye, then left eye then right eye in the photos.
Perhaps if the NRL made the players walk instead of running there would be fewer injuries. 😉
he didn't try to tackle him.
Rugby Union has this figured out already. The defender needs to show mitigation when going into a tackle like that and if they don’t and there’s a bad clash like this then the defender is punished for being reckless. League die hards won’t agree much less want to align with Union but in my opinion Union has got this right. It’s on the defender to at least try and bend or go lower into the tackle because if they’re upright like May was there’s only one way that can end.
let's have no contact boxing
Tell it to the courts when the inevitable legal suits come.
Pauls got a point tho 👉
Spot on Gus and Gould
They’re the same bloke 😂
Gallen has had too many hits to his head.
The guy passing Walsh the ball was to blame he sold him a dump. He was always going to get hammered. They need to be wearing head gear. They should be wearing boxer headgear
Everyone needs to look at that properly May comes the line and his feet leave the ground so there is intent to take out Walsh If May doesn’t leave the ground there is no head contact whatsoever the defender is at fault and doesn’t get suspended Also everyone seems to forget Dale Finucane getting suspended for 4 weeks for a head clash with Stephen Crichton and panthers whined and complained that Finucane should be suspended for dangerous contact but when May does it they make out like it’s nothing. May should’ve got 4 weeks just like Finucane did
Both codes union and league need to stop apologising for being contact sports
Accidents happen, yeah, but it is careless/reckless to increase the likelihood of accidents happening in the game. That is why we have rules against foul play.
How was it careless? Also Gals point of protecting the attacking player only makes this whole case hypocritical, nobody wants to see reckless or careless tackles, but accidents happen, it’s Rugby League being played at the highest and most competitive level 🙄
@@detectivemarvel8036 He raced in flat chat and didn't care about what could go wrong with doing that, ergo careless. Then, guess what? Something went wrong.
@@detectivemarvel8036 how? bro he ran in as fast as he could an then jumped into the tackle... Oh I wonder he got hurt... Surely.
@@organicod2438 you have to have line speed to shut the play down or put pressure on the kicker, also most guys are standing upright to prepare themselves to pullout to avoid injuring the kicker anyway. If you don’t do these things then what’s the point, what’s the point in competing? I’m not saying purposely injure people but the full contact aspect is what makes you react and think in certain ways during the game. In my opinion this particular situation was an accident and not careless or reckless. Also if they’re going to sterilise the game like this then you might as well put responsibility on attacking players too, then we’re going to be watching a whole different game
@@jordanious7711 do you even play bro? 🙄
Duty of care is over used and selectively applied. Why are attackers only afforded a duty of care? What happens when two team mates have a head clash executing a tackle? Do we then charge them or the attacker of making them mis time their tackle? Its ridiculous
Might as well turn it into touch footy at this point😂😂
ACCIDENT. PENALTY AND 1 WEEK SUSPENSION.
I agree with Gal, first time ever & never will again. I was screaming exactly that it was a head clash & that's it & i hate both clubs
I'm cool with the tackle, as long as its CONSISTENT in future. If cleary or teddy gets split open, and we move on - all for it.
Gal - No one intentionally hits someone in the head, no one does that anymore! Tane Milne, JWH - hold our beers
Walsh has been a pain in the Ass for both Gal and Gus so May's off-defense tackle is an accident. Clearly, it was an intended hit to put Walsh out so that Panthers could easily win. Otherwise, If it was Teddy or Cleary, they would be jumping horses and complaining or crying like babies in thirst of Breastfeeding 😂😂
IN CASE OF A CAR ACCIDENT DO YOU TELL THE DRIVER ABOUT TO HIT YOU NOT TO HIT YOU IN THE HEAD IN A CAR COLLISION? LOL
If you shine in Rugby League you have a target on you. Think Lattrel and on Joey Manu. Nearly ended Joey Manu's career. Rugby League is brutal. Still love it though. Glad the Roosters smashed South Sydney.
It was totally accidental, things like this happen from time to time in rugby league, but for me the biggest woose of all was the Bronco's coaches comment after the game staring down the camera 'where's the duty of care NRL'? Go and change Reese's nappy & give him a nice warm bottle Walters! 😭🍼
True
This game we call Rugby League today is a game that I hardly recognise from when I started playing it, back in 1962 in 'J' Grade, they want to protect the players, fair enough, no scrum is played today, except what is now just a huddle, the Administration have changed the rules, to make the game so fast that the players are playing at top speed for 80 minutes, you dont want head injuries, make the players play in Boxing Head Gear, dont want shoulder injuries, make the players wear shoulder pads, dont want broken ribs put extra padding into the Jerseys.
Then u will have Gridiron.
@@mickblack3291 Yep, I know, its a contact sport, players suing clubs and League because of head injuries, it just might happen.
Most high tackles are accidents Gal you donut. They still get penalised and suspended for them.
What happens when two teammates clash heads. It's an accident move on. Surely both teammates have a duty of care to each other, both teammates should be suspended under your interpretation
@@diceman999 Two teammates aren't running out of the line trying to put a shot on each other now are they? Are you saying if it's an accident, move on, no penalty regardless of the situation?
@@BooCarKeys I don't think May was trying to put a shot on, yes May ran up quickly, but I think it was to try and pressure or to shut down the play. May wasn't trying to take Reeces head off. Reece passed Ball, May tried to pull out of tackle. Then chest on chest collision. May taller cut his chin, Reece shorter so cut his eye. Don't tell me it's a shoulder charge. You don't get a chin on eye collision with a shoulder charge. Yes it's unfortunate for Reece and Brisbane. It is a violent and quick sport, watch it at full speed not slow mo. All happens in an instant of a second. Accidents happen. If May came off second best in the collision, would you still think May should be penalized?? I am a Penrith fan, so maybe a bit biased, but I try and be objective
I'm a Bronco 💯. And the Walsh - may clash. Was a accident!! No one should be in trouble for it. Penalty at the worst case. Can't charge anyone for contact in a contact sport. Could have injured may himself. ACCIDENTS Happen!!!!!!!
can i Just say, THANK YOU! i finally found a bronco fan that did not post a bias opinion. THANK YOU!
The NRL is the only one who has duty of care. No let’s give it to the players so we can wipe our hands. The NRL do not want to be responsible for what’s coming.
Gal and Gus are right on this one👍
no
This is why Joey Manu left the NRL. The sport is still too soft on head contact. Start punishing players, like they do in union - even if it's an accident.
If you have a 15 year old son who loves rugby and you listen to this, you think maybe I'll push him to another sport. Union is trying to address this with penalising upright tackles. This conversation sounds like good old players talking about the good old days. Law suits are coming. Parents will have second thoughts. Head contact like this looks terrible for the game. Standing in front of running players making no attempt to tackle low will inevitably be penalised.... eventually.
I guarantee if it was Taylan May who went down it would have been crickets. This duty of care rubbish? Please! That'll do me!!
If I knew nothing of NRL and you lined up all commentators and asked me to pick two to determine player safety with regards to head knocks, Gal and Gus wouldn't get a look in based off what I'm seeing.
Pencil pushers making rules for men…. It’s a joke
Gal is right.
The game has gone bloody soft!!!
Perfect world with humans involved. Never. I played both league and union every weekend for twenty years. So did my four brothers. Worst injury over that time for any of us was a fractured cheekbone. A few broken noses but no broken bones. Playing in the top grades. That was in the 60's - 80's. Play hard or don't run out. What happened to Reece was an accident. No ill intent, not like Les Boyd's shot on Daryl Brohman. That was criminal. The dividing line is mala fides or ill intent. Duty of care is subjective and now in Union the refs have the new rules to protect all players with reviews looking at the bio-mechanics of the contact. League will have problems with this because that's every set of six tackles could need reviews. Impractical.
Annesly just needs to quit his incompetent
Gal and Gus blowing up because they are NSW supporters. If Walsh did that to one of their boys the conversation would be going the other way. It was a p1ss poor excuse of a tackle, let's be honest boys.
Mate, you didn't get what they are say..
@GimaiKaupa I get exactly what they are saying mate. I believe the game has been getting soft for years. I just think that was a pathetic tackle. I get that accidents happen, we see it all the time. Just think that one could have been avoided.
Look, it was an accident but it was careless. Rushing up like that and upright is going to get someone hurt, just like Gal said, but the tackler HAS to be the one to bend into the tackle. How could the ball-carrier be the one to do that? DWZ jammed in perfectly and made a great tackle because he bent his back. This panel is a bunch of morons. Rushing up like that is a risk and that is part of the game. May could have rushed up and bent to tackle. Oh, no, he's in trouble with his coach. Not some lad with a smashed face. Accidents happen, yeah, but it is careless/reckless to increase the likelihood of accidents happening in the game. That is why we have rules against foul play.
Only option is to start wearing a helmet like in NFL.
get the helmet you need to wear the full gear, to protect yourself from someone else's helmet lol
I have heard “bend at the waist” in reference to potential foul play before. During rugby union internationals, which I am guilty of watching. Don’t let the meddlers import the ridiculous conclusions of union to Rugby League, right when the NRL is getting floods of union to Rugby League converts worldwide.
I agree with gal,coz if you don't wanna play rugby go and play soccer.
That's why we 😂have first aid in mighty bloody sports 😂moaning makes sports weak
So they want this game to turn into the rubbish union has turned into
Gal is always wrong
It was walsh, who plays for the donkey's. Who cares
You do hence your comment
cool comment 🤦♂️
He left the ground, that shows he intended to hit him after the ball was passed.
They only saying it should have been suspended because it’s Walsh
It was a dangerous shoulder charge.
You are a fool
Yeah that's what everyone seems to have missed. The head clash was a direct result of a,shoulder charge. Look at his right shoulder
It was chest on chest, no shoulders involved. I agree May didn't wrap the arms, but he was trying to pull out of the tackle as Reece had passed the ball
This one's blown up because he got a serious visible injury compared to the others. How can't use figure out the difference? 🤦🏾♂️ duty of care is on the defender since they have more control over their actions while defending. There was already a precedent set last year about head collisions being careless and needing more duty of care while defending. Did last season just skip Gus and Gals memories.
He could've lowered his approach. That's what we teach the kids at grass roots. This argument is STUPID. common sense ain't that common.
100%
Time to wear helmets for all this soft cks
May launched himself (on purpose), his feet leave the ground. How is that an accident????
If you don’t love Gal , you’re a Queenslander. No one gives a poo about queenslanders opinion so…. Yeah
Because he jump into the tackle gal, Gus take off your Panthers jersey. From U/7's you learn to tackle around the hips, careless everyday of the week. NRL players take more dives than soccer players these days , just like that manly try.