I built an experimental 3D printer that could be groundbreaking!

2024 ж. 27 Нау.
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In this video I show the process of building a different type of 3D printer that has 2 tools that move independent from each other. This is different from an IDEX-system for instance. Where an IDEX is only independent in one axis, the system I developed is independent in all axes. Therefore I'm calling it the TIME-system, which stands for True Independent Multiple Extrusion.
With this system it should be possible to print different parts in parallel, print a single part with multiple tools or combine totally different materials. I believe that this is the next step in 3D printing and we're going to discover the possibilities of this in future videos!
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  • Thanks a lot for the overwhelming positivity on this video! Especially after all this work and not posting videos, I couldn't have wished for more! I also saw while reading through the comments that the intention behind this TIME-system could've been explained better so I made this news article on my new website which explains a bit more: properprinting.pro/news/the-story-behind-the-time-system/ Edit: As several people mentioned 6-axis can be seen as deceptive. I find it very hard to come up with a clickable title that covers a subject as specific as this and I thought that I was technically correct. I've had several videos flop because of a bad title/thumbnail and that's a shame. Sorry to everyone who felt baited.

    @properprinting@properprintingАй бұрын
    • Dude, have you patented the technology? You could...

      @maksymriabov1356@maksymriabov1356Ай бұрын
    • @@maksymriabov1356patents mean diddly squat nowdays.. Honestly I dont forsee someone working anywhere near as hard as proper printing worked to create this. I really dont forsee him having to worry about his idea being stolen but crazier things have happened

      @Reds3DPrinting@Reds3DPrintingАй бұрын
    • Patents cost a lot of money, and are nearly impossible for private inventors to first declare, then defend. It only makes sense if you plan on capitalizing on the investment of the patent. He's got zero chance of impeding use of this from China. As a private inventor, your best bet would likely be to partner with a company, in this case say Prusa, and work with them to develop the tech with a written agreement in place. They can handle the patent (if inclined, but, it's Prusa). Otherwise, they might do the honorable thing and pay you for the use of the tech, or as a design contractor. However, a patent only works if you've not publicly declared the product, which a KZhead video most definitely does. At this point it's public domain. Jon's done some amazing work, and the recognition is there. And hopefully a notable amount of view revenue. ;)

      @ericmadsen8324@ericmadsen8324Ай бұрын
    • @@maksymriabov1356 given the prior art that exists of this it's very unlikely that a patent would ever be applicable.

      @agliacci@agliacci29 күн бұрын
    • Interesting article - I think the independent parallel printing is probably more of a benefit than you mention - especially if you could add more gantries. For a really large print - you could have the print heads coordinate with each other to half the print time - even for single material. Would of course require slicer enhancements of gcode post processing to separate the prints out into two parts, and to ensure that the heads don't bump into each other. Plus even when not doing a single print - It would be like having two printers - rather than an IDEX which can only really do one print at a time. I recently bought a 2nd identical printer as I was doing a lot of multi part prints - so thought I could double my throughput - at it has worked out surprisingly useful - as even when I am doing long prints on one of the printers I often find I end up using the other printer for something else at the same time.

      @dwuk99@dwuk9929 күн бұрын
  • This channel has the most "hold my beer" vibes in the 3d printing space.

    @micahsa15@micahsa15Ай бұрын
    • hahaha this is too funny... and I agree! Jón is extremely creative and smart! :D Greetings from Hungary, Budapest!

      @VagiPeti@VagiPetiАй бұрын
    • I also agree. Though I feel obligated to say that most "hold my beer" stores don't end well, but most of these projects take things to the next level. Highly motivating

      @eatxthatx2k9@eatxthatx2k929 күн бұрын
    • I'll hold it but it's unlikely you'll get it back.

      @juliemclean6743@juliemclean674328 күн бұрын
    • ..So true!.. ..And you just know it’s Not a -Bud Lite- 😉

      @0Logan05@0Logan0527 күн бұрын
    • Is say Emily the Engineer is more hold-my-beery. This is more, I'm gonna need another.

      @anothernate3302@anothernate330226 күн бұрын
  • The paint roller used as a spool holder is killing me

    @naypir44@naypir44Ай бұрын
    • Dito!

      @andreasthaler7068@andreasthaler7068Ай бұрын
    • Fuckin genius.

      @user-pe4bv7vm2y@user-pe4bv7vm2yАй бұрын
    • The best parts/tools are all free and not made for the purpose.

      @SlinkyD@SlinkyDАй бұрын
    • But it is an elegant solution! I will remember that option!

      @JohanFasth@JohanFasthАй бұрын
    • softly

      @hardwareful@hardwarefulАй бұрын
  • I'm not an engineer, I wish I was. But I can understand the genius it takes to make something so complex. KZhead needs to share more videos like yours.

    @J0n4th4n87@J0n4th4n87Ай бұрын
    • Thank you very much!

      @properprinting@properprintingАй бұрын
    • @@properprinting terrible first print? The overhangs aren't cooling fast enough Yet. Beyond that I don't think my Ender3 did any better on 1t's first shot but it was born with a dish-bed and my tramming was awful :D I do have some thoughts, if you'll indulge :) . 1. might it be more simple in G-code for one portal to Follow the other, at safe distance.. as they are likely to be affecting similar paths, by layer? 2. more flattery really. I've long wanted a long Y axis on my E3 - no idea why people want to print Up (through weak layers) when we all need Long items with polymer alignment so that long bed is a dream to see. Belts are far from simple, this gives a lot of that functionality without the encumbrances. Larp Swords here we come :D and.. cough.. um, 3D Printed accurate 20x20 20x40!, in long carbon? 3. I have always filled my prints with Salt. Less mechanically harmful than sand, easily done manually during the print. Very cheap, adds desiccant and weight etc... could the 2nd portal feed paste/grains/powder (Bi-carb?) - could moist Bi-carb be used as notional support layers. Trimmed to level by the hot head as it prints on them, then either washed out/off the print. Or encapsulated for strength, plus all above... . well, there. Thank you for your brilliant lonely work. Viva la Sith :D xx PD

      @pdjames1729@pdjames172926 күн бұрын
    • Engineer school taught me quite literally, no sarcasm, ZERO of the skills needed to build something like this. Something like this takes years of experience of building on your own so don’t fret, anyone can build stuff if you really want to, no fancy degree needed

      @Rcade365@Rcade36526 күн бұрын
    • @@pdjames1729 Just picking up on your point two, YES!! We seem to be beholden to people printing non-functional trinkets with the 'print areas should be cubes' thing, when the reality is 95% of all STLs are longer, wider, or both, than they are tall (and I'd make a solid argument that most of the other 5% are just badly rotated for printing). I have a 500x250x250 Voron 2.4 that has proven time and time again that it's invaluable. I've only twice wished I had a large format, but at least a hundred times I've abandoned the X1C to use the Voron for that long X axis. My only 'hindsight' here is that going for 250x500x250 might be better, but I can't confirm.

      @Phazaar@Phazaar24 күн бұрын
    • @@Phazaar they are both the same volume Phaz :D on my Ender id make a long Y, for easy engineering on the slinging rail. (285x500x250) Proper's wide bed with gantry(s) has a fixed Footprint (nice for the home).. the Y is still his long axis? I guess 1t doesn't matter :D . but yippie, glad more people have Used their 3dp to make actual stuff (not just busts) I really do think, 500mm (520 to bed edges) for domestic and at least 1000m for sensible component prints. Now we've all made a giant Benchy :D (400% fits on 45 degrees printed from the bow up - nose in the air ;o) . I want strong Rails, barrels, draw front filigree with no breaks, Bumper guards for the car and windguards for the front windows in ptfe. I want sports armour, more than just shin-guards. Replaceable soles for my size 18 trainers :D I want a LOoooong Booy :D and yes, TIME material co-processing :D

      @pdjames1729@pdjames172923 күн бұрын
  • The biggest challenge is changing the slicer to make use of all the innovations you made with this machine. Your work as an indie engineer is beyond appreciation. Those who tried to build some new machine know how much effort one has to put to design, iterate, test and build.

    @RamKumar-zn6vj@RamKumar-zn6vjАй бұрын
    • Think about the GCODE becoming more and more a bytecode-style code like used in Java. Sure, you can run it directly (stupid) command for command on your printer - but modern firmwares can already optimize it.

      @philipp9800@philipp980017 күн бұрын
  • My God, someone get this man a proper mill.

    @markwebcraft@markwebcraftАй бұрын
    • Please, this thing is shit😅

      @properprinting@properprintingАй бұрын
    • Did yall notice the CR30 is hella on sale right now??

      @KrazyKaiser@KrazyKaiserАй бұрын
    • I'd still take it if you have to get rid of it 😂 cause a crappy mill is better than no mill​@@properprinting

      @Pyrobanane@PyrobananeАй бұрын
    • @@Pyrobanane my thoughts exactly. Without this block of steel this project wouldn't even have been possible😅 I expected a lot of negative comments about this milling machine, but I'm honestly happy with it and it got the job done. People sometimes don't realize how happy someone can be with something that maybe isn't the best, but enables new things.

      @properprinting@properprintingАй бұрын
    • Makera carvera give this man your cnc he earned it!!

      @ronsone8373@ronsone8373Ай бұрын
  • Seeing those trusses instead of regular extrusion makes it look so much cooler

    @WowCreativeUsername@WowCreativeUsernameАй бұрын
    • very true

      @maazshahid8920@maazshahid8920Ай бұрын
  • as a welder/machinist/ tool and die maker with 40 years in, this build is awesome, well done .

    @chopperchuck@chopperchuck28 күн бұрын
  • As someone studying mechatronics engineering I can totally understand the blood, sweat and tears that go into the design and execution of a project like this. Looking forward to subsequent videos and tracking the rest of your journey.

    @wtis@wtisАй бұрын
  • Damn! Impressive work, really! Must be the most advanced grill around. Also props to not cutting this project into like 10 pieces and publishing them over a span of two years.

    @PYROWORKSTV@PYROWORKSTVАй бұрын
    • Thanks! Also thanks for giving me props for that. Initially, because of the size, I wanted to turn it into several videos. Less risk and keeps "the momentum" of the channel. I'm glad I didn't and now I can focus on the cool stuff we can do with it!

      @properprinting@properprintingАй бұрын
    • You can now, a bit more in depth build video series and behind the scenes. @@properprinting

      @Works_Garage@Works_GarageАй бұрын
    • @@Works_Garage True, he could provide us with a community version and a step by step tutorial with commonly available parts that require little tooling to get done.

      @xdevs23@xdevs2329 күн бұрын
  • there's nothing like a bearded dude in an old workshop, wearing a checkered flannel jacket, processing metal that sets the mood. and oh yeah, the music is so fitting

    @TobiasMH1992@TobiasMH1992Ай бұрын
  • holy cow Jon !!! this is awesome my friend ! and once again the video quality is top notch ! It was so fun to watch. We want more

    @Vez3D@Vez3DАй бұрын
  • The video production value of this is just epic. The music and length of the “montage” clips is perfect. Just all around great editing and awesome product design. 100% subscribing

    @Resyektt@ResyekttАй бұрын
  • The fact alone that you used a grill plate for the buildplate was enough to make me subscribe

    @S4EProductions@S4EProductionsАй бұрын
  • Calling this 6 axis is like saying 9 women can bear a child in 1 month :D

    @ah-64apache84@ah-64apache84Ай бұрын
    • thats fucking funny - if you know what its about! :)

      @simonschneider5913@simonschneider5913Ай бұрын
    • How would you propose he should call it?

      @garramiro@garramiroАй бұрын
    • Dual independant head or dih for short 😉

      @lerbyn@lerbynАй бұрын
    • @@lerbyn But you’d only need two women for dual independent head.

      @timha4102@timha4102Ай бұрын
    • @@timha4102 I would need dual extruders in that case

      @lerbyn@lerbynАй бұрын
  • Jon, this is incredible. The complex engineering thats gone into this is fantastic and the fact you executed in 3 months is seriously impressive! I cannot wait to see more of what you do with it!

    @prashmakes@prashmakesАй бұрын
  • Dit is echt zo gaaf om te zien! Respect! Heel benieuwd wat je er nog meer van kan maken! Hyped voor part 2!

    @captwhiskey7774@captwhiskey7774Сағат бұрын
  • OMG That paint roller is genius ! You build this amazingly complex impossible looking mechanical work of art then come up with the easiest solution for a spool holder. Man I wish I had talent like yours !

    @wickedjack1222@wickedjack1222Ай бұрын
  • Wow man. That's some engineering. You should consider releasing this thing.

    @franklydoodle350@franklydoodle350Ай бұрын
  • Fantastic Video, Jón! It's not just the printer itself but also the story telling which makes this so good. Keep up the great work.

    @JanTec3D@JanTec3DАй бұрын
  • I am in awe of what you build my man. And what I love most is the technical complexity combined with the usage of everyday products like the grillplate and the paintroller. Love it!!!

    @pieterspoelstra3391@pieterspoelstra33912 күн бұрын
  • Cool to see all of your previous projects come together in little ways in this, the tool changer, heated bed, folding gantry and more. Underated KZheadr right here.

    @swift1218@swift1218Ай бұрын
  • Congratulations! Seldom have I seen someone do such an ambitious project from scratch; you should be immensely proud!

    @RowanCorbett@RowanCorbettАй бұрын
  • Idea: Multiple 3d printers on top of a single conveyor belt. You can easily mass produce multi-material parts without changing materials, and with less unused print heads. This only really makes sense when a print has layers of one material then another and is most efficient when they take about the same time to print, but in principle, it could be useful.

    @haph2087@haph208729 күн бұрын
    • This channel and printer is incredible. I didn't understand the idea fully and saw limitations in the design for true multiplanar printing but decided to keep my comments to myself and read others comments. I'm glad I did because with you're comment @haph2087 it makes sense. It appears that the T.I.M.E. Machine concept can answer any question/challenge related to 3D printing. Ground Breaking? If not about as close as it comes to it

      @brianhutchinson7863@brianhutchinson786329 күн бұрын
    • This is an awesome idea, thanks!

      @properprinting@properprinting27 күн бұрын
  • Dude this is freaking nuts... just the sheer amount of effort you put into making it happen! Can't wait to see where this goes!

    @andy_warb@andy_warbАй бұрын
  • This is so incredibly, the editing, the lighting, the cinematography, the pure talent of your engineering, wow, I’m so excited to see this channel grow, definitely looking forward and staying alert for any future uploads, absolutely inspiring❤️

    @C.studio@C.studioАй бұрын
    • Thanks a lot for this awesome comment!

      @properprinting@properprintingАй бұрын
  • Well worth the wait, omg what a project ! SO many moving parts and it actually prints already. I'm looking forward to seeing you do your thing and perfect it, true Proper Printing style.

    @jana171@jana171Ай бұрын
  • Как я обожаю таких увлечённых людей. Идея принтера очень интересная. Реализация на высшем уровне. Аккуратность, педантичность.....класс одним словом.

    @alexandersinyakov@alexandersinyakov29 күн бұрын
  • Very cool, love the contrast at the end of the really high tech looking printer next to a paint roller as a filament spool holder.

    @3DPrintStuff@3DPrintStuffАй бұрын
  • Hi Jon, a daring leap, developing such a mega project like this. I'm happy for you that you made such progress. And you were able to capture all of it in a wonderful cinematic way, love your lighting and the way your shots are set up, inspiring! All the best to you!

    @JensMakerAdventures@JensMakerAdventuresАй бұрын
  • I love the mix in humility and complete lack of it: "could be" and "groundbreaking!" hahaha remarkable writing!

    @sirdeakia@sirdeakia14 күн бұрын
  • This is so cool. Nice to see the experiment working, looking forward to future videos!

    @brisance@brisanceАй бұрын
  • This is genius. So smart. I love it. ❤ Congratulations on this design.

    @BTom16@BTom16Ай бұрын
    • Why ? What problem does that solve exactly ?

      @sierraecho884@sierraecho884Ай бұрын
    • ​@sierraecho884 trolling I see. Does everyone have to explain their comments to you? I am a bit confused as to why you decided to ask ? Are you saying this design is bad? If so why. What have you designed and has it gone to market and made you a millionair? I think what he attempted to make is great. Even if it does not work at least he tried. Anyways.

      @AndyRC@AndyRCАй бұрын
    • @@AndyRC To be fair, this idea can only be groundbreaking if other people get behind it and it gains popularity. It's going to require significant changes to the ecosystem so will take a lot of work by a lot of people to mature. Still, the possibilities are real strong and I love the long Y proportions of it. I print tons of stuff that is suited to a long, narrow, bed. Getting two extruders with two axes of motion working on each layer seems like a dream come true. One of the extruders starts in the center and works it's way to it's end while the other extruder starts at it's end and works it's way to the middle. Fantastic. 👍 Or, how about a 0.8 nozzle and a 0.4 nozzle. Fast printing with all the detail of a fine nozzle for perimeters (IDEX could do this also). So many possibilities.

      @BTom16@BTom16Ай бұрын
  • Cant wait for all the new tech with 3d printing, the concrete infill idea and the other stuff you mentioned is awesome... Keep it up man ❤

    @3DWolfEngineering@3DWolfEngineeringАй бұрын
  • this video is literally perfect. youtube knows what i like. i have a feeling im gonna watch this over and over again :)

    @Welp2010@Welp2010Ай бұрын
  • What i really like about this video is how you honestly showed the challenges and your work-arounds. No matter what your vision of a final product is, when you run into problems, you have to adapt. This is a great video for beginning engineering students - they need to know that their first conceps may not always be perfect, but you can get there.

    @jimzielinski946@jimzielinski94627 күн бұрын
  • TIME-System.... incredible, man! Congratulations on your dedication and talent. You are one of a kind. ⭐

    @jmtissera@jmtisseraАй бұрын
  • Very interesting design. I always look forward to seeing what you will try next! Must say that I love the spool holder!

    @rods87175@rods87175Ай бұрын
  • I was like: Wow that ratchet looks so effortless and satisfying... Then I recognized the screwdriver. LTT should sponser you for that one.

    @redwaller1@redwaller129 күн бұрын
  • Awesome. Can't wait for progress and seeing the actual benefits of the TIME system. Mad props. Subbed!

    @fazzah777@fazzah777Ай бұрын
  • Looks like a really sweet printer. I hope you are able to get it dialed in. I love the gantry system it is a very elegent system. Your channel deserves to be a lot bigger than it currently is. You have really good editing and a great on screen personality and dry humor. Your projects are also a lot more interesting than most other 3d printing channels as you are actively trying to push the envelope and take risks. Keep up the good work!

    @dexterm2003@dexterm2003Ай бұрын
  • As someone who is barely dipping their toes (4 months of experience) into 3d printing, to watch you design and build that monster is absolutely mind-blowing. You sir, are a legend in the making.

    @Neoreaver@NeoreaverАй бұрын
  • You are an incredible mastermind. The video has absolutely blown me away! I really wish that would have only a small fraction of the knowledge you have. Looking forward to seeing more videos about this printer platform.

    @choschiba@choschibaАй бұрын
  • Man, I found your channel a few years ago, when you were modding the ender 3, and oh boy. I have always loved your ideas and imagination, but this is something else. I still don't really understand why, but oh is it beautiful, and an engineering art too !

    @Sttreg@Sttreg29 күн бұрын
    • Thanks! I made a pinned comment with link to an article I wrote with a better explanation. Hopefully that makes things a bit clearer!

      @properprinting@properprinting27 күн бұрын
  • Congratulations on such a huge functioning prototype! Not sure if I would have called "true independent" since the gantries can not pass through or past each other and create exclusionary zones for each gantry. Basically they depend on each other to get out of the way. Appreciate the core xz for the low weight gantry. Really awesome project, very innovative to try new methods like this. Huge amount of work putting it together. 6 axis? It's 4+4axis maybe? If you ignore all the manual configuration for certain axis? It seems like 3+3 axis atm.

    @Lyoishi@LyoishiАй бұрын
    • It’s definitely not what most would consider 6 axis, it is pretty much just two 3 axis printers that share a bed.

      @conorstewart2214@conorstewart221428 күн бұрын
  • You have a commercial product here !! Great job !

    @altamiradorable@altamiradorableАй бұрын
    • Lol

      @REDxFROG@REDxFROGАй бұрын
  • By far the best video I have sen this year, awesome editing and production with a super cool idea and flawless execution! WOW! Will be great to see where it ends up!

    @williambryce8527@williambryce852727 күн бұрын
  • Great work Jon, love to see your channel grow and videos getting more and more professional. The effort will eventually pay off💪

    @kherkert@kherkertАй бұрын
  • There is no better feeling when your printer project works. Massive well done!

    @notepadgamer@notepadgamerАй бұрын
  • This system looks pretty cool but it's still just two printers side by side. They "can" overlap and print on each others prints, but they have to wait for each other to complete the work before continuing and that's not "independent". IDEX knew this and did not bother with the second gantry because of exactly this problem. Also the bed made out of a grill adds +20 points for style.

    @vinny142@vinny142Ай бұрын
    • I agree with that honestly. It can be done but has other limits. I've thought of this for a while now and decided for 4 independent xyz axis to print and stich simultaneously. You would need 4 robot arms attached to a z gantry working at each corner. With each print head starting from the stich at offset synchronization it would be a continuous print which nothing running into itself

      @MrMojorisenLK@MrMojorisenLKАй бұрын
    • 4 robot arms would be likely a very expensive and highly demanding task for computing

      @MrMojorisenLK@MrMojorisenLKАй бұрын
    • But they are independent. He stated at the beginning of the video that when you're not using both extruders for the same part (dual color/material) that you can print different parts with different materials at the same time. You can't do that with IDEX, you can only duplicate the same part due to the axis constraints. That alone makes this printer way more versatile than IDEX.

      @smoothdog001@smoothdog001Ай бұрын
    • Don't have to wait for it to finish at all - as long as the g-code generation knows about the other gantry it can start printing on its side of this layer in the overlap as soon as the other gantry has moved on - In effect the print heads can chase each other around, with the only thing they need to know being how much do I slow this section of my print so the other print head maintains its lead. Complex to generate but this two printers at once with so much overlap does bring many potential benefits the IDEX can't do - for instance you may print a statue of woman on one side and of a man on the other both holding up the archway that eventually combines those prints without any slowdown caused by having to alternate the print head each layer, or simply print a bed full of massively different parts more footprint and probably energy efficiently than two separate printer.

      @foldionepapyrus3441@foldionepapyrus3441Ай бұрын
    • I was doing the same thing a few years ago, basically all you have to do is split each layer into 2N sections where N is the number of independent extruders. You’d make the sections wide enough to accommodate for the extruders width and make each extruder separated by 1 extruder width distance. So for 2 extruders you’d have 4 areas where ex1 works on 1st area and ex2 works on 3rd area, and when they’re both finished they work on the even areas, always separated by that minimum extruder width. You could get fancy and calculate the sections to be of roughly equal area as long as they are larger than the minimum extruder width to avoid any collisions. You could get even fancier, but you get the point, it could get really cool but sadly true IDEX is patented by Stratasys so that’s probably the real reason we don’t see it commercially. There was a 3D printing company that tried it and I contacted the owner years ago and he told me that’s why they stopped developing it

      @gcod3d161@gcod3d161Ай бұрын
  • You have some of the most brilliant, creative and well engineered projects I've ever seen. Absolutely incredible printer, I can't wait to see how it goes.

    @circleofowls@circleofowlsАй бұрын
  • oh what a cool easy to use multiple materials. I could even see a moving ever bed that travels back and forth to boot.

    @teddupee742@teddupee7426 минут бұрын
  • maybe having equal print level for all heads is enough, so only x-y freedom required per print head beam. makes things simpler and more compatible with current 3d print slicers.

    @gsestream@gsestreamАй бұрын
    • Make things simpler, what an odd combination of words😆

      @properprinting@properprintingАй бұрын
    • at least its fun.@@properprinting

      @gsestream@gsestreamАй бұрын
    • also more efficient in parts and material use compared to multiple separate printers. ie the long shared print bed.@@properprinting

      @gsestream@gsestreamАй бұрын
  • Looks pretty cool. Watching now

    @WesMakesStuff@WesMakesStuffАй бұрын
  • I am so glad to see you back in here. Your 3D printer projects and production quality are the best on this platform.

    @SKPhoto816@SKPhoto816Ай бұрын
  • The wait was well worth it, congrats on another awesome project Jón! A full build in a well edited video is super cool, all the way from CAD to literally printing! The firmware troubleshooting part would be super intimidating, I can imagine that pressure. I hope this video blows up for you! Cheers *Congrats on 100k!

    @TommyHoughton@TommyHoughtonАй бұрын
  • I couldn't understand the value difference with an IDEX. with an IDEX you can make multimaterial prints, and it both cases it needs to stop one extruder, move the other extruder in position and then lay the layer and repeat, except that an IDEX sounds a lot faster as does not have to move a whole additional gantry out of the work piece. this could work if the piece would also move in x-axis as a conveyor belt, but I'm not sure if you can make a conveyor belt faster than a modern y-axis movement in a IDEX machine. this looks like 2 totally independent printers. the only exception would be if you could machine the part in one gantry (as it would required another gantry designed with more rigidity in mind)

    @giuseppebonatici7169@giuseppebonatici7169Ай бұрын
    • I don't see a real usecase either. especially since IDEX is still a tried and tested option. however, the two portals could feature an IDEX each. or one IDEX and a totally different tool, for example to put inserts in special places during printing. depending on how the portals move, there could be more than 2 portals. but that might be feature creep.

      @robertheinrich2994@robertheinrich2994Ай бұрын
    • the great potential it the ability to prime one extruder while the other is printing, which doesnt work with idex, while one is prining, the other starts to ooze.

      @jksjrgfpsjgr@jksjrgfpsjgrАй бұрын
    • When the second head is working the first head can go to a different part of the bed and start a different part. Belt integration would not be replacing a axis' movement. But move the part from one side of the machine to the other (and ultimately auto eject) so the printer can keep printing new parts with the first gantry while the second is printing on top of the previous part. In theory you could make this meters long and have a whole complicated production line of printers working on very complicated multi material parts.

      @monev44@monev44Ай бұрын
    • @@jksjrgfpsjgr so, the great potential is beatable with a slightly longer y-axis with a place with a bronze brush to clean the nozzle. or retract the thing. or lower temperature through software. or a any combination of a trivial matter of adding a small and faster cycle through every layer. that is not "great potential" at all if comes at a cost of essentially another complete printer. I would call it an insanely overengineered process, expensive and replaceable with a "tooth brush" and duct tape, if that is all the potential that it has.

      @giuseppebonatici7169@giuseppebonatici7169Ай бұрын
    • @@giuseppebonatici7169 well no IDEX printer ever really worked, so its not as trivial as you think it is.

      @jksjrgfpsjgr@jksjrgfpsjgrАй бұрын
  • BRO I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT 1

    @bigblue1287@bigblue1287Ай бұрын
  • I admit, I've some doubts about the actual utility of this set-up - I'm not sure there's very many situations where this is more useful than a tool-changer like the XL. But I love the ingenuity behind it, I really hope to see this working out because creativity should always be rewarded, and just watching you work showed me some simple techniques I can use myself - things like chucking a rod or screw in a drill to clean up the end after you've cut it. I also really appreciate you including the dead-ends and redesigns. It can get very frustrating when that happens, and seeing it in videos like this helps me, at least, to remember that re-doing things is a normal part of the process. Finally, whoever actually edited this did an amazing job! Making a good video is a skill completely independent of whatever the video is about and a lot of "builder" videos suffer from inexperienced video editors. This video is really well put together, and that deserves recognition.

    @davydatwood3158@davydatwood3158Ай бұрын
  • I admire the innovation you bring together in this project! I can't wait to see what comes next with this project. Thanks for sharing the journey with us.

    @bear3Dtek@bear3DtekАй бұрын
  • this is absurd and i like it

    @gametec_live@gametec_liveАй бұрын
  • What chair do you have?

    @pchelka75@pchelka75Ай бұрын
  • Well done, I love the out of box thinking, vertical CoreXY + Bed Slinger + IDEX Mashup!

    @nexgen-3d-printing@nexgen-3d-printing17 күн бұрын
  • thanks for including all of the fails and iterations you went through during the build! Even in professional environments, no Research and Development / Design project works perfectly the first time. Many R&D teams expect failure and problems with early prototypes. Keep up the great work!

    @danpowell2018@danpowell201827 күн бұрын
  • I don't see an emergency end stop on one of those gantries to stop them from crashing into each other.

    @noanyobiseniss7462@noanyobiseniss7462Ай бұрын
  • So, how is this better than 2 separate printers?

    @mamatuja@mamatujaАй бұрын
    • just dont ask! you already know! :)

      @simonschneider5913@simonschneider5913Ай бұрын
    • Watch the first minute again and tell me how you're going to do that with 2 separate printers ;)

      @properprinting@properprintingАй бұрын
    • I fail to see this as well. Why not a printer with a tool changer? Also I miss the humor that is in his videos, this 1 was too much engineering for me. But looking forward to see what he will do with this printer.

      @evanuijtert@evanuijtertАй бұрын
  • Wow! I greatly appreciate every one of your videos and am always excited to watch as soon as a new one pops up! Keep innovating! You’re inspiring me and many others to think outside the box and try new things.

    @cannon5551@cannon5551Ай бұрын
  • I posted on reprap forums years ago about milling extrusion to exact dimensions on a VMC for people who might need perfectly square ends, precisely drilled holes. I imagined demand being higher than the zero interest I found. Good to see someone putting in more effort than a clean looking cut with saw.

    @ChrisHarmon1@ChrisHarmon1Ай бұрын
  • When you add two 3-axis cartesian workspaces together and call it a 6 axis 🤡

    @bobodyuknow@bobodyuknow29 күн бұрын
    • Ah you're so right, you should go build a real 6 axis printer and show him!

      @ittueaday@ittueaday18 күн бұрын
    • @@ittueaday your point is absurd. You believe that anyone who finds problems with something should just go do it better themselves, and that otherwise their complaints are invalid. If the world really worked like that, nobody would get anything done. All the channels you read would be too busy trying and failing to run their own governments. Your boss would be busy doing your job, and nobody would be entitled to any opinions

      @alexyu4549@alexyu45499 күн бұрын
    • @@alexyu4549 I promise you it's not that deep man

      @ittueaday@ittueaday9 күн бұрын
    • Lmao nice try waving it off. I'd be embarrassed to write that. @@ittueaday

      @alexyu4549@alexyu45498 күн бұрын
    • @@alexyu4549 if I cared about embarrassing myself my KZhead name wouldn't be "it tueaday" with a dog in a stroller wearing a backwards hat and sunglasses

      @ittueaday@ittueaday8 күн бұрын
  • This is really awesome! I look forward to seeing the future this project holds

    @Garfangel1@Garfangel19 күн бұрын
  • that is by far one of the coolest thing i have seen on 3D prining in years! amazing, can't wait to see more. good luck !

    @nothing.much.office@nothing.much.office11 күн бұрын
  • Dude!! That's the finest work building a 3D printer that I've ever seen. Mad skills my friend.

    @ivanmirandawastaken@ivanmirandawastakenАй бұрын
  • This is incredible. Looking forward to seeing more of this system.

    @Pcoakaloid@PcoakaloidАй бұрын
  • Eindelijk TV met Tim Hofman waar ik wél naar kan kijken. Goed werk Tim!

    @marijntopgear@marijntopgear17 күн бұрын
  • Let aside the double printer, I just LOVE the way you did the beams and the belts. I can imagine a full aluminium one with just one extruder.

    @NightVisionOfficial@NightVisionOfficial28 күн бұрын
  • Only just found your channel. Top quality workmanship!! Now, to see what else you've made! Also nice soundtrack!

    @AdrianC2006Uk@AdrianC2006Uk28 күн бұрын
  • Ah, the good old 80/20 rule. Keep on it, sir. You're doing great work!

    @tim.garrison@tim.garrison19 күн бұрын
  • I cried a little bit when you said "It worrrkkkkks". Great job!

    @keithschaub7863@keithschaub78639 күн бұрын
  • For F***S sake man, you're phenomenology talented. I don't expect you to remember me but, I was a Patreon premium supporter of yours for a good while. I took a step back while I wasn't 3D printing so much. Now I am back, and I found another video of yours that's fantastic. You really hit home with me around the 6 minute mark when you explain your process of reiterating a part. I often go through the same exact struggle. I know I've said this to you before, but your engineering prowess and cinematography skills are phenomenal. Thank you for doing what you do and well done good Sir!

    @MrDynamik1@MrDynamik1Ай бұрын
    • Thanks man!! Also for the support!

      @properprinting@properprinting27 күн бұрын
  • Amazing project and congrats on 100k subscribers!! I found you after buying my first 3d printer like 3 years ago and looking for tips on making my ender 3 pro dual axis. It's been a wild ride seeing you go from those types of videos to this.

    @joshbasho@joshbasho13 күн бұрын
    • Thank you very much!

      @properprinting@properprinting13 күн бұрын
  • I've built more than one 3D printer using my own design, and I know how much work it is! You did a great job. Four years ago I built a printer with similar kinematics, but with one portal for the production of molds. The best solution for the table in the end was a sheet of granite slab.

    @DigitalLee@DigitalLeeАй бұрын
  • Dude, this is incredible! I certainly appreciate the amount of thought that went into this concept and I think the hotplate bed idea is really smart. Keep up the good work and great editing!

    @degreeless_engineering@degreeless_engineeringАй бұрын
  • I am SO impressed and amazed. You motivate me so much! Keep up that amazing work!

    @xdevs23@xdevs2329 күн бұрын
  • Amazing job, keep going ! Very impatient to see what happens next !!

    @paulvis5983@paulvis59838 күн бұрын
  • You're an incredibly smart guy! I love watching what you come up with. Someof your extruders you've come up with are pieces of art! Thanks for sharing 👏👏👍👍

    @TheZombieSaints@TheZombieSaintsАй бұрын
    • Just got to the end, keep it up for sure! I'm really interested in what this printer can print once both portals are printing. You're a damn genius I reckon. Again, excellent work

      @TheZombieSaints@TheZombieSaintsАй бұрын
  • Somehow KZhead recommended this when I was working on something completely unrelated and I'm so happy that it did. I've never 3D printed a thing in my life but I stayed and enjoyed your journey and hard work building this machine. Super inspiring and incredibly motivating dude. Wish you all the best with your future projects! We can all learn a thing or two from watching your dedication!

    @SuperEpicJBJ@SuperEpicJBJ29 күн бұрын
  • It's awesome to see you've improved and are still using the frame system from way back. The whole TIME system looks awesome (even though I don't really like a bed that's not square for some reason ;) ). Good luck reaching your goals for this project.

    @tempeczek@tempeczek28 күн бұрын
  • You Sir, are an absolute GENIUS. When you get it printing correctly, you will have an amazing one off machine. The rest of us are just rubbing 2 sticks together trying to make fire. You are a very very special. person. Thank you

    @andrewhoughton581@andrewhoughton58123 күн бұрын
  • I don't comment on many videos... But I wanted to say thank you for taking me on this adventure. You are inspiring, and I really felt like I was a part of this project from beginning to end. So well done. Thank you.

    @woundedoutlaw3274@woundedoutlaw327424 күн бұрын
  • This is seriously awesome! Great work as always, I am pumped to see the cool projects that come out of this!

    @BenMyhillJones@BenMyhillJones29 күн бұрын
  • I think it's absolutely incredible what you can do at "home" nowadays if you just have the skills. Show this video to someone 10-15 years ago and nobody would have believed this to be possible. The maker community truly has come a long way.

    @FrozenDozer@FrozenDozer29 күн бұрын
  • You sir are an absolute G! I'm blown away by what you build. You are too modest. This is phenomenal!!!! 👏🏽👏🏽 9

    @ingeolayimika6187@ingeolayimika6187Ай бұрын
  • The excitement of your face when you watch what you created is amazing, beautiful job dude!!!!

    @Cody_Spaghetti@Cody_Spaghetti27 күн бұрын
    • Thanks!

      @properprinting@properprinting27 күн бұрын
  • Certainly the most innovative maker on KZhead. Well done. 🎉

    @rollotomasi1832@rollotomasi183229 күн бұрын
  • I can't really tell how much "oh my god, this detail is just genius" and "oh look at that, this is even greater" moments I have while watching almost your every video :D I am just fascinated by your ingenuity and I hope you never stop developing and innovating!

    @noaccoun@noaccounАй бұрын
  • You are making progress, one step at a time my man. Nothing is perfect from the beginning, and there is nothing silly about the plate. You do what you need to do to get it working, then upgrade the plate later. You're doing a great job and I can't wait to see more updates.

    @jeremy_wofford@jeremy_woffordАй бұрын
  • Jon, the only guy i know that doesnt just think out of the box, the pallet, the shelf, the row, the warehouse, industrial estate, region, district, country, planet😂. Epic respect to you and your genius ideas. The one dude on KZhead who will always bring out the big gns in surprises. 🤘

    @andyhelipilot3528@andyhelipilot3528Ай бұрын
  • Bravo! esthetically and mechanically a amazing project. Respect, it looks absolutely fantastic

    @nextjaeger9271@nextjaeger9271Ай бұрын
  • Sick build. You're a mad scientist. Love the post tensioning.

    @Malusifer@Malusifer29 күн бұрын
  • Having built my own printer from scratch with a duet board I can imagine the difficulty of getting this as good as it is. Nice work!

    @danielpas368@danielpas36826 күн бұрын
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