Reviewing the new EPOS GSX1000 2nd edition. With this device packing so much, a bit to much, did epos go ocverbnoard with. the "gamer" fluff?
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The first time you use 7.1 and hear the footsteps behind you in Tarkov and turn around and shoot your enemy, you will realize how awesome the GSX 1000 actually is. 7.1 is not a gimmick IMHO, it is a game changer and that would be the real reason to use this over another AMP/DAC in its place.
is it good for dolby atmosphere movies ?
@rajendrabiswas you don't want to use dolby atmos while using the gsx, it fucks up the sound
To me, one of the big selling points is the option to toggle between outputs. I regularly switch between my headphones and active speakers, and being able to do that with a click of a button instead of messing about in my Windows taskbar is a big convenience improvement. I have tried to find other DAC's that provide this option, but doesn't seem like a common feature. So I have one of these coming and will be using it with my Drop PC38X and Ruark MR1 MK2 active speakers.
Sup dude, I’m thinking of the exact same set up. How is it?
@@andrewf.1706 Hey! It's working wonderfully. The unit is sleek and smooth to use and the built in sound profiles are excellent. I only use the Music on occasion, depending on what I am listening to. If I were to point at any downsides, it would be that it's not quite as subtle a unit on your desk compared to other DACs. Also the glossy finish on the touch areas will collect finger prints and the corner touch buttons can sometimes be activated by accident. But other than that, it is a great little unit and I am very pleased with it.
@DarthChrisDK I couldn't get the software to work. I felt like the 7.1 sounded trash, unless I was doing something wrong? The only good sound was standard 2.0 option
Love the way you talk about audio man, keep it up. Really enjoy your reviews and all the stuff you show us
I’ve actually enjoyed the 7.1 surround for music. Not always, but it’s cool to have. Presents your music in a different light. Not a better sound, but an alternative
Another amazing vid Techne! Love my Epos
I bought the epos h6pro closed a month ago from your recommendation and really enjoy them for gaming. Did not like the gsx300, using a soundblaster ae7 now and am quite happy. Very loud and can get many different eq's for any audio experience
Yo Techne, usually agree with you... but honestly I love tweaking and options, not like you have to use them! Audio software can also be super beneficial. Steelseries Sonar is honestly great, it works with any 3.5mm headphones and standalone condenser mics too. Totally kills background noise on my Røde mini and great EQ. They should release their gameDAC gen2 separately, probably a lot more value for money than the Epos.
I have the first version of the GSX 1000 from Sennheiser paired up with the Epos h6 pro open back, i run it on 7.1 with the E sport mode on and everything else off. To me its night and day! Without the GSX 1000 my headsets sound too quiet. I really like the Esport mode because it takes away most of the punchy bass so you can hear footsteps and everything else clearly and the 7.1 mode makes it sound way more immersive and open.
I have the first edition and i love being able to just switch quick from headphone to speakers. That and when my friends come over they always say, "Whoa, WHAT THE HELL IS THAT"?? The surround on good headphones is awesome, I love the thing and it looks great stacked on a separate amp.
I have the last generation. This has no changes just looks a little cleaner. The surround sound is pretty good compared to most. So if you have the older one wouldn’t upgrade, or if you want one get the older one. It’s probably cheaper.
Im hedre for this exact comment. I just bought the previous version for $150. Was wondering if I sholdve bought the newest version...
I'm pretty sure the newer version has a higher quality mic channel. Other than that they are the same.
Is the older one compatible with windows 11?
Got this as a freebie from Epos after many problems with my H3 Hybrids (which they replaced with H6 pros) - Im happy with it as a freebie and it will give me the extras that the H6 lacks. Looking forward to testing them out... Still need some wireless for certain situations... Maxwell's it is!
My main headset is the H6Pro Open back. I have had the 1st GSX1000 years but have not used it for a long time. I use the Fosi K5 Pro which has a mic input too. It sounds great and it only cost me 90euro (i'm in the EU so had to import from the US). Highly recommended.
Do you think the Fosi K5Pro sounds better than the GSX1000 overall?
If you use fps preset and turn on bass boost or super bass boost on in the game audio it's just absolute perfection. And if you put the sound in front of you what it actually does is boosts all the sound in front of you so you can differentiate between sounds in front and behind you
LETS GO!! And keep on going as we pass on this product 😂. I’m too excited for the Maxwells anyway to be looking at this.
Let’s go keep going 😂
@The Techne hey man I’ve got a quick question for you. I’m reading it here since this is your most recent video with the wired Arctis nova pro. The clearcast AI noise cancellation. Everything I’m reading says you need to be connected to the software but with the game deck you can connect dwyer both to the Xbox and your PC so can you use that feature on Xbox or literally only on PC? Again, sorry for posting here it’s just your most recent video.
I have the previous generation and honestly, I just set up in 7.1 mode and never touched it again (don't like to tweak too much with reverb, etc since it lowers the sound quality) One thing in my opinion worths mentioning: this gives you THE BEST surround sound you can get today, period.
he didn't even comment about the 7.1. did he even tried it at all?
So how does it stack up against the Creative Soundblaster X4? Because new its 50-70€ more than that and for 200€ it gets stacked up against the iFi ZEN DAC V2 which will pretty much wipe the floor with it. Its in a weird spot where its feature packed, but for a small audience that actually needs those.
Did you order/do a review for the audeze maxwell?
my SHP500s/Vmoda BoomPro are on the last leg! any recommendations on some new cans? Is wireless worth a look now?
I have the first one that was released under the Sennheiser brand. My biggest two issues with it were not allowing surround sound playback on anything past 48000 Hz DVD quality audio and the line out not being a line out at all, instead being just the headphone jack duplicated since it goes through the amp rather than outputting a flat line level audio, like a true line out should do. If these issues weren't fixed this device isn't worth your time because the only upgrade that was done was going from Micro-USB to USB-C. They also could of added a digital audio out but nope. If you really want this thing just buy the original GSX 1000 used or just buy the plenty of other dac/amps made by actually decent audio companies that have surround sound features or just use the plentiful amount of simulated surround sound software.
Which dac/amp do you recommend? I have a PC38X.
@the techne did you see the new Audeze Maxwell?
Can you use this with ss gamedac while on console?
I just picked this up from Amazon for $150. This is one of the few times where I think Techne gets it wrong. If this device holds up, it is one of the best desktop solutions for folks like me who want minimal clutter. I love having a hardware based device, the volume scroll wheel is perfectly in-step with my volume in Windows, setup is as easy as being able to plug in a USB-C cable, and the sound quality is excellent. I own the Schitt Hel 2e, the Hifiman EF400 and a JDS Atom Stack. For the time being, this will be my go-to because it only needs one cable - no need for a separate power supply. The power output is enough to power all my headphones including the Audio Technica ATH-R70X which can be a bit of a pain to drive. The only thing that annoys me about this device is why Sennheiser opted to put the headphone inputs on the back/top of the device as opposed to the bottom. I don't know what in the hell they were thinking when they did that. It makes my headphones bend awkwardly. But, I'll get over it.
His very poor on his abillitys with surround modes and what's good or bad reviewing endless headsets and only using stereo is hardly a pro review his ignorant about g6 7.1 sinnheiser 7.1 dolby access his so off the mark and behind the times 7.1 isn't the garbage his describing form 10 yrs ago his PLAIN WRONG
I love the extra features and that it is plug-and-play, no software needed. It has all the functionality I need with the exception of a customizable EQ curve. But honestly, I love this review. Very straightforward and speaks plainly to what is likely the typical gamer / consumer. The extras just aren't needed. The FPS mode is the most gimmicky IMO.
It’s pure sound profile it’s good and pretty good
I want as many features as I can get for 150$ but it also should work plug and play but if you want you "can" have tons of features and adjusts you can make
Thanks for telling me about the product. ill keep my GSX 300. its got the ONLY thing i want or need, a volume knob.
I've used the GSX1000 for a lonnnng time. Great mixamp, pretty disappointing they didn't really add anything new. I use a 3rd party MIC already, so the "mic" boost in quality doesn't really matter...and the 'new" design isn't enough. I'll be rocking the GEN 1 till it dies.
Make a review of the superlux hd-668 b headphones 🙂🙂🙂
I’ve owned the GSX 1200 Pro for 6 years now and it’s biggest claim to fame is its 7.1 surround sound which is a game changer for FPS and some open world games for directional audio and immersion (it’s kind of like a really really good Dolby Atmos effect) but other than that and outside of the cool chat features, other cheaper options will probably suffice.
Bought mine ages ago too (with the Sennheiser only branding). 7.1 is great in games like Battlefield, it just takes a while to get used to it. It's not a gimmick. Even Sony jumped on the binaural audio train with the PS5.
Can you control game chat audio with this or just master volume?
I have the 1000 amp and it's insane! You can hear people coming from a good distance!!!!! Especially with the 7.1. Super immersive sound and the best! I have it paired with the epos h6pro.. best combo! Trust me! Buy this amp
if it had dual USB-C input i would get it, sadly the only soundcard that does have that is the gamedac2 from steelseries, and im not about to buy the headset just for the dac
I'm sure they'll start offering the new DAC by itself in the near future
Is it great for gaming with IEMs? I have Truthear Zero and a DAC/AMP Ibasso DC03Pro is it worth it to spend money on this or I should be good?
No links for better stuff in description :(
Actually, the front and back is just a high gain and low gain settings. Edit: I own the previous version and my wheel dont have a rubbing feeling as well as a delay in switch between speaker and headphone. It seems to be a downgrade overall in terms of performance except for mic. 7.1 = crossfeed with additional features 7.1 + front is my favorite for watching movies. 2.0 = normal sterio with eq preset.
nice job
is this good for movies? like tv optical out?
what is your no. 1 keyboard ?
far as i can see its only a color changes from the Gen 1, which i have and its disappointing to see the Gen 2 about 4 years apart. only have slight improvement and same features
I believe in mr Technie here. I returned it, & now aiming for something else worth my $200. & that reverb thingy they say, it's worth experiencing but not worth the keep.
If this costs 10% of its price, I wouldn't mind putting one on my desk, but 200€ for it its a clear no-no.
Are they usually at that price?
I say 100$ would be fair
50€ and I'm being generous. Its just a fancy volume control but it adds nothing that is worth the price.
@@darkscoutergamer6168No never, usually the ones that have such a high price tag are the ones that whole an insane amount of ohms, this one’s very eh with a eh display so it should be around 80 to 90 dollars.
Your description has a typo, it says "to much," not "too much."
Please help me I’m confused on what these type of things do coming into the gamer would
The Techne with the truthbombs baby!
Where did youre Audeze Penrose go? Not your no.1 anymore? 😢
Probably waiting for the audeze maxwell to ship
They stay on my desk as a wireless option. But I have actually been using the nova pro wireless lately, just so dang cozy with the new WC
@@TheTechne Had Arctis Pro Wired and Wireless and based on your videos I bought EPOS H6 Pro, than Audeze Penrose with WC. Loved the sound on H6, but never had more situational awareness and sound clarity in fps than Penrose. Night and day, even Arctis Pro Wireless can't compete. But now with you having Nova Pro as main, I guess I have to try it finally as well.
Would this be better then SCHIIT Magni 2 amp/dac??
No
Perfect review, been critic and not everything is all flowers and happy like other reviewers, what i hate in one product is the gimmick features looks like all consumers are 4 years old kid that will believe in the "nice name feature" also i dont like when something expensive is just 10% better than none, for example to me the mic sounds better in the laptop than the device. Nice review, lets always be critic cause nowadays to get our money is hard than ever to give to companies that think we are dumb.
100%
Do any of the EPOS Gaming DACs offer custom EQ curves through their own software or hardware? Without the ability to save at least one custom curve, this type of hardware is useless.
So it can do the same things nova pro wireless can do, riiiiight
I think it's important to realize that things like gaming headsets and big brand keyboards exist because enthusiast products like customs and audiophile headphones are not entry level, and the average gamer isn't going to get an amp like this at this price point, so marketing it towards gamers is a mistake
What’s your go to dac?
Ifi zen
@@TheTechne do you stack the ifi zen dac with a ifi can?
@@berserker3530 yes i do
Pass for me as well.
The mic sounded much better . Without it it was more nasily.
no i dont agree 7.1 is a game changer, software 7.1 and hardware emulation difference is night and day, i have an astro a40 and the mix amp's surround sound was a game changer for me.
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$200 bucks.. .. wow you cut your goatee too lol
Hey I'm deciding between the h6 pro and the Beyerdynamic mmx 150, could you please give your opinion on which purely sounds better for music and gaming.
the beyerdynamics sound way better, i've had both.
@@Destinylover14 interesting thank you. Have you tried playing competitive games like valorant or csgo. And if you have which had better details for things like footsteps.
@@dragonpokemon842 the beyerdynamics have all around better sound, better imaging, soundstage, sound quality, bass, but it's less comfortable than the EPO, but I'd choose them over the EPO any day, tried them in competitive games, easy to locate players by footsteps, great for music and casual gaming too.
@@Destinylover14 That sounds fantastic thank you!
@Jon M it's personal preference when It comes to closed and open back, I do prefer open backs too
soooo, what is the extra latency i get on the gsx 1000 over onboard audio?? 10ms 20 ms or 40ms? id love to get external soundcard but i know they all add tons of latency which is really bad for competitive games.
That's my concern too. I'm a recording studio engineer and for realtime monitoring it's all about the latency. This thing is just an audio interface after all. I have one on the way so I'll see. I've played games with external recording studio audio interfaces before though and didn't notice latency really. Would be most noticeable on FPS and your own shots probably. Still can it be worse than the realtek or creative on your mobo?
I have the first version and I completely disagree with your opinions here. I don't want to waste my time trying to convince you otherwise. For gaming, it's damn good and that's its whole point.
The sound blaster X4 Is much better
Epos software: didnt work Game mode: horrible on the ears Price: rediculous The only thing i liked was the regular 2.0 mode and the ability to switch to speakers / headphones
What amp Do you recommend I picked up the Epos h6pro As recommended from your videos can’t decide please help haha
Well, no, at that price... $200 for a card is cool just not in terms of Epos haha, all correctly said, a bunch of things to replace this product. Whistle for 80$ from ali clearly better, well for example Fiio ka3
Owner of a GSX 1000 and 1200, It looks like just a minor refinement but still.... where's the software Sennheiser??? ._. it's a simple and weak DAC/Amp in general if only it didn't include Sennheiser's Spatial Audio technique, they just put in the 7.1 for surround sound label, bet you don't even know their signature spatial audio technique and as a sound designer, saying 7.1 a gimmick is really...... not nice, there were many trials and errors to mixing algorithms like Filtering/Convolution/Interpolation, Object Oriented Coding to create surround sound in video games or gaming oriented sound card, it's a real technology just a number became a label slap. Competitive edge its a gimmick not beyond a shadow of a doubt, immersion..... people spent thousands of hours and millions of dollars to this, it's called audio simulation btw made just for your enjoyment edit: Realized something, did you even try it in a game? the only time i see you using it is when you're playing around the hardware, how did EPOS just sent you one like this *facepalm*
I recommend watching gadgetryTech to get real info on this, he breaks down what its actually doing on the software side and talks about it in way more detail.. I don't mind watching this guy to get an idea about things, but he doesn't really do things justice sometimes..
A little more than two years ago I bought the OG one which was pre "EPOS" no "EPOS" branding on it at all. It was probably the biggest waste of money I have spent and I buy some dumb stuff. I saw another video talking about how good it is and the difference it makes. It never really made a difference in audio for me. The only somewhat useful aspect was switching between the computer speakers and my headset. However i could have just bought an audio switcher for that or used macro keys for that. One day recently i kicked the power cord by accident it bent the power chord input so badly it will not power on anymore. I then opened it up to see the micro usb input was torn off the board and bent the aux input of my Tyger 300R which has a built in non detachable cable. Please learn from me dont buy this and get headphones with detachable cables! Your wallet will thank you. Like mentioned in the video there are better options to serve this purpose.
Guys just get spatial from Razer for 19$ I think it works with any headset. I did a hack used 7.1 from Razer and I have the spatial from Hyper X Stinger it was 2 sounds in one headset. It helped me boost some sound I could hear some footsteps harder. However, I think you need to have more memory RAM in your PC.
I would recommend the Apple USB C dongle over this (US version).
possibly the only good gaming audio product ever made, and you give it a mid review. What a freaking joke.
someone talking about gimmick gamin product (headphone amp)whilts using "gaming headsets" praising them tells a lot.....you're talking bolocks mr.
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Don't like your review due to you just saying oh 7.1 surround sound is something I don't like. I like 7.1 surround sound but I am looking for a more spacious sound for all games... Terrible opinion on your part you are telling me what you want... I don't care what you want out of a product all I want out of you is to test the features and give an all around review... Awful... Don't listen to this guy there are plenty of other reviewers who do a much better job in reviewing this product fairly...
Its simple... dont review something which clearly isnt for you...
well that would be boring