Antikythera Fragment #3 - Ancient Tool Technology - Hand Cut Precision Files

2017 ж. 8 Шіл.
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Antikythera Fragment #3 - Ancient Tool Technology - Hand Cut Precision Files
There are quite a few very interesting tools still to come in this Fragment series, but I have to admit I've been super excited about these: A set of hand cut files suitable for constructing the #Antikythera Mechanism. Please enjoy :)
The other video where I case harden the files can be found here: • Antikythera Fragment #...
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Abbreviated Transcript:
00:40 The Greek civilisation was well into the Iron Age at the time of the devices creation. But the question of steel availability is not easily answered. Certainly there was a form of crucible steel known as Wootz, from the region we now call India. But there was also the technique known as case hardening, which essentially converts the surface of an iron object into steel.
01:23 The first step is to take this raw stock, and shape the basic file blanks. In recent history, this job was done on a massive grinding wheel. And although it would of course have been much slower and less convenient, similar hand powered abrasive tools are known to have existed in antiquity.
02:46 No matter how much I roll the file on top of the work, it rotates so that the file will still cut reasonably flat. Ok, so with the file surfaces stripped, the next step is to form the teeth. And I need to make a few more custom tools to get this part of the job done. I've made a simple file cutting workstation, based on the traditional approach, but scaled down to suit the size of my shop.
06:15 And that first tooth now becomes the reference for the next tooth. The chisel blade is slid up against it, and then the subsequent teeth are laid down one after another. Each time, using the previous cut to locate the next.
08:59 Well I'm not about to give up my commercially made files any time soon. But they do work quite well. They're probably equivalent to a modern #2 cut file, and although the cutting action is not quite as sweet as a new, modern file, its a reasonable balance between metal removal and surface finish. They're durable, easy to handle, and certainly perform well enough to have constructed the original mechanism.
10:31 But there's still quite a high degree of consistency of the root angles around each given wheel. That suggests to me that the teeth were in fact formed by simply plunging the file into the workpiece, like I've done here. And that the root angle variation observed across the gearing, was in fact generated by a small selection of files cut specifically to construct this mechanism. Ok, so to wrap this one up, Its still very early days for this reconstruction. And I've still got a lot more research to do into the tool technology behind this machine.
References:
The Nicholson Guide to Files & Filing: www.nicholsontool.com/MagentoS...
The late Ken Hawley on the Sheffield file cutting tradition: • Making Files by Hand
A modern French toolmaking company, producing magnificent hand cut files and rasps: • Inside Auriou Toolworks
Another beautiful video on rasp making: • The making of LIOGIER ...
A look at traditional filecutting. A blend of both the modern filecutting machine as well as traditional hand cut files (German, no English CC's): • Video
Antikythera Fragment #3 - Ancient Tool Technology - Hand Cut Precision Files

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  • This is great, almost every discussion of old tool technology I've ever seen stops at knapping flint and picks up at the middle ages, skipping millennia of slow, steady advancement. Thanks for doing your part Chris.

    @AlRoderick@AlRoderick6 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you mate, appreciate your support each release :)

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
  • I think it's absolutely amazing that you're not only trying to build the Antikythera Mechanism, but also spending a lot of time trying to understand how it was built using as close to possible the period accurate tools, that you're making yourself...amazing

    @FaithInAshes@FaithInAshes6 жыл бұрын
    • Great to have you watching mate :)

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
  • absolutely brilliant.

    @ThisOldTony@ThisOldTony6 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you good Sir :)

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
    • clockmakers making the machinists look like cavemen :)

      @jusb1066@jusb10666 жыл бұрын
    • @@jusb1066 ya jocks vs nerds a tail as old as sharp stick vs just hit it with a rock

      @kingoffoxez@kingoffoxez5 жыл бұрын
    • and people think making things out or files cool.

      @bnuttsgee@bnuttsgee5 жыл бұрын
    • Yes yes it is

      @kennethsee6262@kennethsee62625 жыл бұрын
  • Making tools to make tools to make your project. Dedication!

    @jaywest4102@jaywest41026 жыл бұрын
    • it will end up being a museum quality reconstruction that way

      @RamosLuis2550@RamosLuis25506 жыл бұрын
    • I'd have been more impressed if he dug up bog iron first, but this isn't tea bag.

      @1pcfred@1pcfred6 жыл бұрын
    • AvE?

      @xxMikePortnoyJrxx@xxMikePortnoyJrxx6 жыл бұрын
    • +Paul Frederick. Have you seen another Australian youtuber called "Primitive Technology"? He has experimented with recovering iron from iron bacteria using nothing but things made from rocks and trees. I'd love to see a collab video between "Primitive Technology" and "Clickspring"

      @lordchickenhawk@lordchickenhawk6 жыл бұрын
    • +lordchickenhawk Primitive technology probably wont do collaborations though

      @gettingrealsickofyourshitc4804@gettingrealsickofyourshitc48046 жыл бұрын
  • Am I the only one here who can't stop thinking about the paradox of needing a file to make a file?

    @PCanas@PCanas6 жыл бұрын
    • A flat piece of granite could have been used.

      @doubledarefan@doubledarefan6 жыл бұрын
    • *mind explodes*

      @tyttuut@tyttuut6 жыл бұрын
    • If you did not have a file, you would start by making a scraper to flatten your blanks. The scraper is essentially a toothless file blank with sharp polished corners. It can be made using just abrasive stones to flatten and polish the edges.

      @cmdrsocks@cmdrsocks6 жыл бұрын
    • I would assume you could get away without filing the blank the first time, then use those poorer quality files to improve the next set you make.

      @robmckennie4203@robmckennie42036 жыл бұрын
    • I guess it wouldn’t really matter if the first file wasn’t perfectly flat. It would still be enough to make the next file a bit flatter. Then you can make progressively better files

      @felixar90@felixar906 жыл бұрын
  • Interestingly, the lack of uniformity in hand made files, is shared in high quality machine made files, because if the tooth spacing is too uniform the file chatters, and fails to make a good cut, and instead squeals and digs in from vibrations generated at a high frequency. Nicklson (did I spell that right?) file corporation invented the first file cutting machine that was suitably Random to mimic hand struck files, and allowed for machine made files to take over. Betcha if ya used a nice hard modern tool steel, it would end up better then most store bought files! (That are made of straight high carbon steel still... some tools refuse to evolve) I like watching files get struck, there is some magic in the process, happy to see your channel. You earned a subscriber.

    @jimandaubz@jimandaubz5 жыл бұрын
    • Not sure what you mean by a modern tool steel, but there isn't much of anything that will make a better file than a mildly alloyed 1.2% carbon steel. Steel that's more highly alloyed has problems other than wear resistance, especially in fine edges (like tips of file teeth) under any pressure. The cobalt steels are about the only thing that gets a little harder than file steel (file steel can come out of the quench at 68), but cobalt steels are extremely low toughness and the teeth would break right off filing steel.

      @daw162@daw162 Жыл бұрын
  • As a person who wears out alot of files, I found this video to be very fascinating. Finding your channel is like opening a door to a higher level of craftsmanship. Much appreciation for your work! Thank you!

    @stephenhealey5528@stephenhealey55282 жыл бұрын
  • Chris' attention to detail and dedication to making this project as historically accurate as possible make these videos an absolute treat to watch. It is not often that one can get such an in-depth glimpse of ancient history, and these videos deserve way more views for doing just that. Keep up the awesome work!

    @jackdewey4298@jackdewey42986 жыл бұрын
    • Cheers Jack, appreciate your support mate!

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
  • I love your dedication and persistence. If only I had your patience too... As a Greek, you make me very proud!

    @ltheo2000@ltheo20006 жыл бұрын
    • Terrific to have you watching mate :)

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you very much! I really look forward to see it complete! Keep up the excellent work!

      @ltheo2000@ltheo20006 жыл бұрын
  • Ahh man. I forgot just how much blood, sweat, and tears you put into every project. Lovely to see your work again, Chris. Keep it up, mate.

    @DJignyte@DJignyte6 жыл бұрын
    • Cheers mate :)

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
    • @@Clickspring I appreciate your mind.

      @xmachine7003@xmachine70034 жыл бұрын
  • Well done ! It took a long time to make files back then, but then they were used for a long time to make everything metal.

    @gwheyduke@gwheyduke11 ай бұрын
  • These projects are more valuable to me as an adult whose been in the machining/fabricating industry my whole working life, than any other videos on KZhead. These videos even got my wife interested, who wasn’t into this stuff.. We will be patreon supporters very soon.. thank you!

    @mikebergman1817@mikebergman18175 жыл бұрын
    • Awesome to hear that Mike, so pleased you're enjoying them :)

      @Clickspring@Clickspring5 жыл бұрын
  • I crave these videos

    @BobbyDukeArts@BobbyDukeArts6 жыл бұрын
    • Bobby Duke Arts hey its you😁 hiiii

      @eljiedelacerna3316@eljiedelacerna33166 жыл бұрын
  • Chris, it's hard to explain how much I'm excited by techno-archeology, and how well you do it! I'm back to this video again after years. You, Sir, are an inspiration and a wealth of genuine insight.

    @user-pd5ot4zd4b@user-pd5ot4zd4b3 жыл бұрын
  • I have watched this entire series more than once or twice,. I love how Chris starts out by making the tools necessary to complete the project.to show how it was actually done ions ago..to reverse engineer everything after seeing the end result still has to be easier than designing and building it the first time,with nothing to compare it to. It is all just so amazing to me. Love this channel.

    @davidkohler7454@davidkohler74543 жыл бұрын
  • Clickspring...your channel is about one of the very few WORTHY of being perpetually maintained........Regards

    @stefos6431@stefos64314 жыл бұрын
  • Clickspring = Australia's national treasure

    @mike-lu8di@mike-lu8di6 жыл бұрын
  • I really admire that you don't take the easy way out, but instead use the techniques and methods of the original makers of the tools you're constructing. The fact that you do your work not completely for the end product, but mostly for the experience is also respectable. Your hard work is a huge inspiration!

    @nikolovell@nikolovell6 жыл бұрын
    • Cheers Niko!

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
  • Behind this video is a professional team. Not an individual. Otherwise you're a badass!

    @ctprjcstv3998@ctprjcstv39984 жыл бұрын
  • 11 pm, was going to sleep, but saw a new clickspring video

    @marcinzdunek2902@marcinzdunek29026 жыл бұрын
    • 3:30 at night and I'm still watching

      @superdau@superdau6 жыл бұрын
    • And now you can't sleep from the sheer beauty of it? Welcome to the club!

      @bertpeijmen6960@bertpeijmen69606 жыл бұрын
  • You're my hero, Chris. Truly a master of patience.

    @naota3k@naota3k6 жыл бұрын
  • I have never seen anyone make a handmade file before. This is really fascinating. Thanks for making this video.

    @makeminefreedom@makeminefreedom4 жыл бұрын
  • Making the files totally blew me away. Impressive crafting!!

    @BAK87@BAK876 жыл бұрын
  • The antikystera mechanism is the holy grail for the home shop enthusiast. Thank you for this video!

    @johndilsaver8409@johndilsaver84095 жыл бұрын
  • The History Channel can bite me, this is just amazing to watch. Absolutely mind boggling, not just the incredible craftsmanship and attention to detail, but the...almost reverse engineering of this project.

    @DanBowkley@DanBowkley6 жыл бұрын
  • As a knifemaker/hobby machinist who appreciates a good quality file, I absolutely love this video. I might have a go at it myself! Beautiful work.

    @michaelw.6957@michaelw.69575 жыл бұрын
  • This is great. Your attention to detail and patience are a joy to watch.

    @peetiegonzalez1845@peetiegonzalez18456 жыл бұрын
  • The patience of an angel and the perseverance of an ant. Chris, you must have hundreds of hours a day. Respect!

    @polygoon@polygoon6 жыл бұрын
  • I find it astonishing that anyone can put so much time, talent and effort into this, but the results are remarkable. I am staggered by the step change in technology that these relatively simple tools would facilitate. Its amazing to see them made from such humble beginnings. I'm hooked on the series now. No question!

    @Timf1964@Timf19645 жыл бұрын
  • Beautiful camera work, shots, lighting, craftsmanship... I'm not sure whether to start making videos or give up before I start based on how fantastic your work is, Chris. Outstanding stuff, mate.

    @daveh9134@daveh91346 жыл бұрын
  • Just fabulous. The whole serie is great.

    @nalinux@nalinux5 жыл бұрын
  • While looking at it, I can't stop to keep thinking about how it's made. Great job!

    @petervandenthillart8354@petervandenthillart83546 жыл бұрын
  • Wow, the last thing I expected to see - making your own files!!! Your commitment to authenticity blows my head off!!

    @donfinch862@donfinch8626 жыл бұрын
  • When I had this channel recommended I felt like I was let in on a well kept secret, that you are the creator that is the favorite of all of my favorite maker/artist youtubers. It’s wonderful

    @emo6577@emo65772 жыл бұрын
  • Wow... what a fascinating journey... thank you for taking us with you... amazing!

    @frankmuller5649@frankmuller56496 жыл бұрын
  • My metallurgy professor talked about the ancient files and how they were made. I couldn't imagine that it was done this way. I was clearly overthinking it. Thanks for the demonstration of the process using period tools and technology. Great series.

    @davidparker9676@davidparker96765 жыл бұрын
  • Outstanding !!! The question has never been COULD the ancients build such a device, but HOW could ancients build such a device. You leave no speculation as to HOW. Clickspring has rapidly become my favorite channel. I found you by watching This Old Tony. I found HIM by watching Alec Steele. You guys just keep leading me to better and better viewing content. ty so much

    @Baroque_Back_Mountain@Baroque_Back_Mountain5 жыл бұрын
  • Your attention to detail and patience are incredible and very inspirational. I know I don't know the half of what it takes for you to make your videos but I sure do appreciate them

    @thevillageinn@thevillageinn6 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you mate, I very much appreciate you watching :)

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
  • Loving it. The first file I bought was a #2, simply because I was clueless and there were three grades to choose from, so I thought I couldn't go too wrong with it, staying in the 'middle of the road'. When I showed that to my friend the apprentice metalworker, he was surprised and said usually nobody went with the #2 but all the shop workers used a set of #3 for rough shaping and #3 for finishing the filing job. Served me well all those years though. I can see the master craftsman in his rough chiton have apprentices hew files for the shop and carry out all sorts of endless repetitive tasks, weeding out the wheat from the chaff according to the quality of their workmanship afterwards.

    @Cancun771@Cancun7716 жыл бұрын
  • Your patience and attention to detail is astounding. The clock series was a pleasure to watch, looking forward to seeing this one unfold.

    @touchnova@touchnova6 жыл бұрын
  • My grandfather was a "tool and die maker". I don't know where he got his training, but he came over from Weimar Germany to the US (Chicago) in 1923-24. He worked for years for Western Electric. He made various things out of brass and steel. Don't know whether he made any tools at home, but we had some various tools that seemed hand worked. These videos about the Antikythera Mechanism (AM) are so amazing. Both because of the memories of his workshop and because of the incredible craft and skill the Greeks used and then subsequent people/cultures LOST until very much later. I wonder what the guy thought who was going to receive the mechanism at the arrival port, only to be told that the ship sank. Was the AM a one-off, or did he order another with the insurance money? ;)

    @BFDT-4@BFDT-46 жыл бұрын
    • A follow up question. How close are we to creating a restored workshop where the AM was made? And from that, what could be said about establishing the technology level of the maker and his/her guild mates? And then, how could we develop a tech manual that describes/preserves the ancient workshop/culture? I am in awe of what we had and what we lost.

      @BFDT-4@BFDT-46 жыл бұрын
  • That was brilliant. This channel is incredible.

    @ajeje1996@ajeje19966 жыл бұрын
  • absolutely stunning, Chris.

    @shookings@shookings6 жыл бұрын
  • your precision is art itself!

    @koko10900@koko109006 жыл бұрын
  • Your tool making Chris is amazing... so much patience and hand work. Your video material truly is right up there when it comes to KZhead creators. Everyone looks fwd to every new edition :) Making the file teeth was incredible - again - such patience... not to mention cutting gear teeth!

    @ChrisB257@ChrisB2576 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you mate!

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
  • Extremely informative. Now I understand why some cheap needle file sets look like they were made from mild steel 6" nails. They were.

    @jasonpos1537@jasonpos15373 жыл бұрын
  • Well done the time spent is appreciated by a lot of us. Keep up the great work.

    @Bidenrocks13@Bidenrocks134 жыл бұрын
  • time, good quality tools, knowledge, patience and most important is passion these are the factors what makes a great craftsman and you have it all chris and thank you for inspiring us.

    @cave-works@cave-works6 жыл бұрын
  • Sir, I just saw your channel for the first time, and was completely mesmerized! While building clocks was never a big interest of mine, I have worked with metal all of my career (42 yr.) as a Welder/Fabricator. Making tools is in fact a very big interest of mine. I was looking into "Checkering Files" for my knifemaking hobby, I believe that I may try my hand at making my own? You sir have inspired me. I think I may become a subscriber and quite possibly an avid watcher of your channel. Thank you so much for your contributions. This will be interesting!

    @bradymcphail9690@bradymcphail96906 жыл бұрын
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      @rogerthompson926@rogerthompson9265 жыл бұрын
  • I really enjoyed this clip, great work

    @BundyBearsShed@BundyBearsShed6 жыл бұрын
  • I have spent all day sharpening and shaping gravers Im glad this was a 12 min video it was perfect. This concept will come in handy for attempting to making unique lined gravers. TY

    @theresabrown203@theresabrown2034 жыл бұрын
  • Fascinating, and really informative. I'll never look at a box of rusty old tools in quite the same way again..

    @chuffpup@chuffpup6 жыл бұрын
  • You Sir are like Steven Spielberg of DIY project videos.

    @bashmahs@bashmahs6 жыл бұрын
    • Ha ha! Thank you mate :)

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
  • Oh, and P.S. Quick tip for cleaning your files when they are all full of left over material. Just take a piece of copper, about 3 inches or so long, and with a little bit of girth to hang on to. As well as a flat edge. Take and put it against the edge of the file, aiming to move it along from one side, to the other, going with the direction of the teeth groves. Press against the files surface firmly, and as you do, the teeth of the file will indent within the copper, filling all the voids of the file along with it. As you go along the grooves, it will remove any old material. Just repeat until you reach the end of the files face. This will make an old file as good as new and is great for cleaning and upkeeping files to keep them in good condition. It comes in handy.

    @TrueSighted@TrueSighted4 жыл бұрын
    • Just want to add, you can also add chalk to your file to keep it from loading up

      @carloshernandez2561@carloshernandez25614 жыл бұрын
    • @@carloshernandez2561 good addition. 😉 I rarely use it when working with precious metals, due to wanting to reclaim any scraps and filings without contamination; but no doubt it will work.

      @TrueSighted@TrueSighted4 жыл бұрын
    • @@carloshernandez2561 Now it makes sense! I bought a rather enormous flat file at an estate sale that looked like it was loaded up with plaster or something, it was probably chalk :)

      @moconnell663@moconnell6633 жыл бұрын
  • Beautiful work, editing and craftmanship

    @DKTAz00@DKTAz006 жыл бұрын
  • your work seeds peace in my mind

    @randomchip5696@randomchip56966 жыл бұрын
  • yet again Chris I have no words left to describe how awesome your videos are, the fact that you make the tools to make the thing you're making always blows me away and the process of making the tools is as fascinating as is the building of the Antikythera Device and the attention to detail is of the same high standard. Every video is satisfying to watch and I always look forward to it with the excitement of Christmas morning...lol

    @TheBearuk1@TheBearuk16 жыл бұрын
    • Cheers mate :)

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
  • "What did you do today? Oh nothing just made some files by hand, then used them to make a gear. You know the usual."

    @DarkDays4@DarkDays46 жыл бұрын
  • It goes without saying but I’ll say it anyway. Your presentation was accomplished without the glaring and telling need for recognition and significance typically found on KZhead. It is refreshing to witness what was possible and subsequently accomplished in ancient times by people who saw possibility and then invented the technology and tools needed to make it happen. Your presentation clearly demonstrates the human capacity for creativity and inventiveness. Thank you.

    @tcl379@tcl3793 жыл бұрын
  • Phenomenal patience. I always wondered how files were made.

    @nickdwaters@nickdwaters6 жыл бұрын
  • There are quite a few very interesting tools still to come in this Fragment series, but I have to admit I've been super excited about these: A set of hand cut files suitable for constructing the Antikythera Mechanism. Please enjoy :) The other video where I case harden the files can be found here: kzhead.info/sun/icOGoJWehax_h3A/bejne.html

    @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
    • Clickspring You are one of my favorite channels.

      @BobbyDukeArts@BobbyDukeArts6 жыл бұрын
    • thank you, i have always wondered if i could harden mild steel

      @martimvieira653@martimvieira6536 жыл бұрын
    • Clickspring Being excited is entirely justified. Making a chisel to hand-cut your own files so you can hand-file gears - I really admire that level of dedication. Never seen anyone cut their own files in a home workshop before.

      @schm4704@schm47046 жыл бұрын
    • clickspring how to say it... have seen people doing project entirely from scratvh, as you did, making specialized tool when needed, but such tool as a file ? the basic of the basics ? such dedication , that's... really great !

      @webertheo5448@webertheo54486 жыл бұрын
    • A youtube first Chris, shop made files!!...how excellent! Cheers~ Rich

      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin@MakinSumthinFromNuthin6 жыл бұрын
  • I want to know what was going through the minds of the 220 people who thumbs down this video! Very informative video. Thank you

    @steveoo410@steveoo4106 жыл бұрын
    • What makes you think that they even have a mind?

      @niklar55@niklar555 жыл бұрын
    • I like turtles

      @joystickricksherrell774@joystickricksherrell7744 жыл бұрын
    • They heard the expression "We have you on our files" and got confused.

      @PhilJonesIII@PhilJonesIII4 жыл бұрын
    • Elephantstripes lack of comprehension

      @glennirving5858@glennirving58584 жыл бұрын
    • Probably just tuning their recommendations, doesn't necessarily mean they think its "bad" just not what they want.

      @shpensive@shpensive3 жыл бұрын
  • Fascinating stuff. And you've put so much (educated and appropriate) thought into this project, not to mention the hours of work! Thank you for creating and sharing this playlist, and the mechanism one, with us.

    @Cellottia@Cellottia3 жыл бұрын
  • In this day and CNC age I sometimes get a little disillusioned doing the work I do but watching your videos reminds me why I got into it in the first place. Thank you for that 👍🏻

    @Mister_H.@Mister_H.4 жыл бұрын
  • This is one of your best videos yet and that says some. Keep it up Chris.

    @rimmersbryggeri@rimmersbryggeri6 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you mate :)

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
    • rimmersbryggeri I like the screw tapping holder series the most.

      @MaxMakerChannel@MaxMakerChannel6 жыл бұрын
    • That one is great too. I have just always wondered how files were made before modern tools. Tapping or even rolling threads was never a mystery to me since I grew up in a machine shop.

      @rimmersbryggeri@rimmersbryggeri6 жыл бұрын
    • Chiseling the teeth has been a known technique basically forever. Although I did not know about the previous step he did to level the blank.

      @1pcfred@1pcfred6 жыл бұрын
    • rimmers, I agree, but I love his bluing vids too! Still amazes me to see the finish and color quality he can achieve. If there's one thing that's incredible in each and ever video it's the production, excellent informative narration and spot on execution! Ok maybe at least three things.

      @Steve_Just_Steve@Steve_Just_Steve6 жыл бұрын
  • I was wandering about 30mins ago when a new video was coming. Needless to say, this is a pleasant surprise. 🙂

    @K8Nicole@K8Nicole6 жыл бұрын
    • K8Nicole I swear, every time I think it's been a while since the last video, a new one comes out later that day!

      @potatoepotato6562@potatoepotato65626 жыл бұрын
    • Potatoe Potato, please, can you do that on a daily basis?!

      @Marius-Cristian@Marius-Cristian6 жыл бұрын
    • K8, Follow him on Instagram and you'll get a peak of vids a lil bit and their subject matter before they come out!

      @Steve_Just_Steve@Steve_Just_Steve6 жыл бұрын
    • MC Hagianu hahah, if only we were that lucky!

      @potatoepotato6562@potatoepotato65626 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for sharing your hard work.

    @SRG-Learn@SRG-Learn6 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing video and amazing craftsmanship. But boy did it make me appreciate modern machinery.

    @Siverix@Siverix6 жыл бұрын
    • Me too! Thanks for watching :)

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
  • Beautiful

    @Granite@Granite6 жыл бұрын
  • I am so impressed to see this video. I can never find the type of files I would like to have. For example, files of regular shapes, triangular, flat, round, etc, but, smooth on one or more sides, with the filing surface only on the other, which would allow me to file, using the smooth surface(s) against a guide or the work piece itself, only filing stock on the filing side of the file. And, the coarseness of files, is just never right.

    @kurtrozario1@kurtrozario16 жыл бұрын
    • You could do what I have done, and make one or more edges SAFE edges, by sanding them smooth, to a mirror finish

      @the_eminent_Joshua_E_Hrouda@the_eminent_Joshua_E_Hrouda4 жыл бұрын
  • A huge tip of my hat to you sir from an old T&D maker.

    @raymondyee3313@raymondyee33132 ай бұрын
  • You certainly do your home work! Amazed as always! Nice move using the clay to trap your parts for carbonizing! Thanks for sharing!

    @ronpeck3226@ronpeck32266 жыл бұрын
  • Great and informative video, as usual Chris and as an old toolmaker and retired Gunsmith, I have gone through lots and lots of files in my time. Your work is superlative and always interesting to watch. A suggestion for the file making chisels, if you don't mind. Shape the struck face of the chisel, so that it comes to a blunt point and this will negate the sideways kicking of the chisel, if you strike it off centre with the hammer. I noticed this happen quite a few times during the process. You will also get better energy transfer. It was interesting to see yet another method of case hardening and I am going to give it a try, as it seemed like a very positive method. I have always told my trainees, that there are no real shortcuts and time spent in making good tools, is reflected in the quality of the work they produce. Cheers, Tony

    @Afro408@Afro4086 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Tony, appreciate the chisel tip :)

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
  • As always, classy work mate! Thank you for sharing the info. I stumbled across an article years ago about a European company wanting to automate the hand cut file making process. The first problem they faced was that the machines cut perfectly spaced teeth and the files would not cut properly. They needed to create some tiny variations in the tooth spacing across it's length to mimic hand cut inaccuracies. .... I'm off to measure some files now that I remembered that.

    @MacheteBushcraftAustralia@MacheteBushcraftAustralia6 жыл бұрын
    • Machete Bushcraft Australia I would love to read that article!

      @nilwon@nilwon6 жыл бұрын
    • Mate I went looking for it and could not find it.....As my Mrs would say I had a 'boy' look. I will have another go and post it up when I get the chance.

      @MacheteBushcraftAustralia@MacheteBushcraftAustralia6 жыл бұрын
    • OK, I did not find the original article but I found some others chattering about it. Google 'Hand Making Files Sheffied Practical Machinist'. It is on the Practical Machinist website and I think he meant Sheffield? Post 2 and 4 talk about the need for irregularities in tooth spacing. Nicholson solved the issue.

      @MacheteBushcraftAustralia@MacheteBushcraftAustralia6 жыл бұрын
  • It's amazing what you can create with enough patience.

    @dickJohnsonpeter@dickJohnsonpeter4 жыл бұрын
  • Wonderful stuff! I love the idea of case hardening mild steel. Thanks again for sharing.

    @rigoniironworks@rigoniironworks6 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome

    @ScrapwoodCity@ScrapwoodCity6 жыл бұрын
  • Напильник из подручных материалов. Круто.

    @MasterPeredelkin@MasterPeredelkin6 жыл бұрын
  • Chris you're the best. Period! I always love watching your videos.

    @markpaas@markpaas6 жыл бұрын
  • When I worked at Cartier New York in the jewelry work shop ( mid 1970s)one of the older jewelers who had worked during WWII told how during the war, hand files were in short supply, and when the old ones were dull, they would put them in the hot sulphuric acid pickle thus dissolving enough steel to "sharpen" them , that also killed the pickle for jewelry work. I enjoy your videos very much thanks!

    @moldering@moldering6 жыл бұрын
  • I was about to go get some sleep. Sleep can wait! :D

    @wheresmyskin@wheresmyskin6 жыл бұрын
  • WOW.. AMAZING WORKS!.. THX I ALREADY SUBSCRIBER IN YOUR CHANNEL.

    @YooProjects@YooProjects4 жыл бұрын
  • Meticulous workmanship and highly interesting.

    @josephpk4878@josephpk48783 ай бұрын
  • Your patience is amazing.

    @fanooch1@fanooch14 жыл бұрын
  • Garden party conversation : “so, what do you do in yr spare time?” “ Oh, you know, I make stuff.......”

    @Forexfox99@Forexfox993 жыл бұрын
  • I recently stumbled across this channel via ToT and frankly it blows my mind, everything you make is just beautiful mate. One quick question - why charcoal made from leather instead of the cheaper and more readily available wood variety for the case hardening? Informative content and superbly presented, keep up the amazing work!

    @vinh7251@vinh72514 жыл бұрын
    • That is a logical question for a subject like carburizing or case hardening. I can not provide an answer, but for another facet to pursue is “color case hardening”, which has been used on many “best grade” British shotguns and machinist tools like parallel clamps. It seems that each manufacturer had their own recipe for mixing bone and leather to produce the beautiful colors that were their own. Take care.

      @robertqueberg4612@robertqueberg46122 жыл бұрын
  • I could watch this all day looooooooong !

    @tinezz34@tinezz346 жыл бұрын
  • I always wondered.Now I have a new challenge.Build on to my needs.Thank you

    @jefflaw1764@jefflaw17646 ай бұрын
  • I clicked on this so fast

    @MoSeedat98@MoSeedat986 жыл бұрын
    • Mohammed Seedat same

      @LoudTechRyan@LoudTechRyan6 жыл бұрын
    • Same here. I love Clickspring's videos, and master craftsmanship.

      @robr3015@robr30156 жыл бұрын
    • You could say I sprung to click it.

      @Pan_Galactic_Gargle_Blaster@Pan_Galactic_Gargle_Blaster6 жыл бұрын
    • I let out a little WOOT! when I saw their was another clickspring vid

      @jimstamper7062@jimstamper70626 жыл бұрын
    • Noooooo shit! Such good wholesome material. I only wish I could donate.

      @PurpleHaze2k9@PurpleHaze2k96 жыл бұрын
  • What type of clay do you use for this method? Is it just over baking modeling clay from the store or is it a nicer kiln firing clay like stoneware clay? Great video, keep up the amazing work!

    @legotechniccreations6630@legotechniccreations66306 жыл бұрын
    • I used this clay: shop.walkerceramics.com.au/AA21/Feeneys-White-Stoneware-~10kg-NEW/pd.php

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
    • Clickspring thanks a lot!

      @legotechniccreations6630@legotechniccreations66306 жыл бұрын
    • Lego God drivewaysdreiestaa

      @kolbjrnsagli3039@kolbjrnsagli30396 жыл бұрын
  • I've got to say Chris this is amazing, I love how easy you make everything look. I may have to make a few custom files now that you've shown how easy it can be. There's a few things I do often as a knife maker that I wish I had something between a milling file and a needle file, like filing blade guard slots.

    @heruhcanedean@heruhcanedean6 жыл бұрын
  • Seeing a new Clickspring video in my feed has to be what winning the lottery feels like!

    @dm-zx7xb@dm-zx7xb6 жыл бұрын
    • Terrific to have you watching mate :)

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
    • And you replied to me!!! I'm starstruck!!! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

      @dm-zx7xb@dm-zx7xb6 жыл бұрын
  • Hi Chris. I noticed that you flattened the files using a file. What did the ancients use for this step?

    @kookyflukes9749@kookyflukes97496 жыл бұрын
    • Hello mate - An abrasive stone would have been effective enough to dress the blank begin with, and then once the filemaking tradition was more established, they would have used files as per the video. The standard and fineness of the file cut (and therefore the subsequent blank it could be used to prepare) would have rapidly improved with each successive iteration of the process. - Cheers :)

      @Clickspring@Clickspring6 жыл бұрын
    • Clickspring Agreed, abrasives were as common place then as they are today,.....kind of. Pumice stones have been used for thousands of years as a simple abrasive, simple rocks for refining the earliest of tools. Admittedly it would have taken a long time. But, they had plenty of it I suppose. The engineers in charge of this whole operation would have had 100s of minions to help he/she is the making of the instrumentation, of that you can have no doubt. This series Chris, is as fascinating as it spectacular. I enjoy watching someone who is so passionate about precision as I am in my shop. I'm afraid the modern expression "close enough" is just not in my vocabulary. But, I don't have the time to make up all the tools from scratch I am sorry to say. You are an inspiration Chris, I would love for this to be shown in schools around the world. Just to show, that quicker is not necessarily better. Best wishes to you from the UK. Pete

      @shonaoneill5151@shonaoneill51516 жыл бұрын
    • I read this in your voice lol so cool. But as someone who dabbles in blacksmithing i found this video INCREDIBLY informational and helpful. I may have to make my own.

      @Sjackson2369@Sjackson23696 жыл бұрын
    • Shona O'Neill Who uses pumice as an abrasive? Was there no flint in all of Greece?

      @maxscott3349@maxscott33496 жыл бұрын
    • its amazing what you can do with just basic materials and technology.

      @km5405@km54056 жыл бұрын
  • Next time he will make an angle grinder.

    @MaxMakerChannel@MaxMakerChannel6 жыл бұрын
    • with DRO

      @kennethgilbertdds7249@kennethgilbertdds72496 жыл бұрын
  • i cant get over this, this is simply AMAZING! SO inspirational

    @emomikey38@emomikey386 жыл бұрын
  • Fascinating, as usual. Thanks, Chris these are great!

    @greggardner1455@greggardner14556 жыл бұрын
  • Dude you are fucking brilliant.

    @sjb2202@sjb22026 жыл бұрын
  • Reminds me of the German TV-Series "Der Letzte seines Standes?" ("The last one if his kind?"). There was an Episode of a Feilenhauer (file cutter) who used the old technique to maintain worn files and build new ones that are superior to machined files. He intentionally makes the cut asymmetric to reduce visible markings on the work piece later. The series has 68 episodes and each one shows very old, rare or even extinct ways of tool making and machining. kzhead.info/sun/ntOTm698eJlpjas/bejne.html

    @1337fraggzb00N@1337fraggzb00N6 жыл бұрын
  • Nice... you’re definitely a more patient man than I could ever be.

    @SWhite-hp5xq@SWhite-hp5xq6 жыл бұрын
  • I have learned SO MUCH in just one video. Absolutely wonderful work, thank you!

    @pacmandrugs@pacmandrugs6 жыл бұрын
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