Tony Furr says everyone was "cheating" back in the early days of racing, so you had to in order to win. From local short tracks with Dale Earnhardt to his time at Hendrick Motorsports in the NASCAR Cup Series, he tried to find ways to operate between the lines of the rulebook.
00:00 Intro
01:01 Nitrous Oxide
02:20 Fogging
06:06 Testing at Daytona
09:08 Getting the Car Low
10:20 What got Tony Caught
13:32 Racing Too Good
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"You didn't know what you was looking at, unless you knew what you was looking at" classic line lol
I love these "bending the rules" stories.
One of my favorite topics 🏁
Same
@@buddyshackleford961 if you aren't trying to bend rules, then are you really trying?
@@doomusrlc yes you're still trying
This is what made it racing back then you had to read not just look at a computer and run cars through static & dynamic cycles.
Listening to old NASCAR stories is 3x more interesting and entertaining then watching a modern cup race
Races today are better than most races in the 2000s and you're just mad its not folksy yeehaw anymore
Not just NASCAR....The world.
Yeah. With Dale Jr and his guests don't have take a yellow flag break after every story.
Man they were really pushing it.
Wish there was a cheat to allow me to like this comment about 47 times
I love the stories of bending the rulebook. Such a great part of the history of the sport.
True. For the slow drivers that is. The good ones never needed the unfair edge and raced like men, shame they'll never go down as well known as all the frauds and hotheads
I love the Ray Evernham stories but sometimes he's so open about it that it feels like he's mocking the organization. One of my favorites is when singer Marty Robbins admitted to cheating because he just wanted to see how it felt to win.
Did you watch the video? They said every single person was running a bottle in their car. Everybody.
@@PBRatLordcope much
Tony Furr should be a permanent voice on this podcast. I could listen to him talk racing stories and etc all day.
You're not kidding!!! Definitely something about his voice and the STORIES!! DAMN IT!!!
I love this stuff
The transmission that Tony was referring to was made by Rankin. When you shifted into high gear, it disconnected the counter shaft inside, so the only thing rotating was the main shaft. The horsepower it freed up was 3 tenths…NASCAR immediately outlawed the transmission. It was still legal in ARCA, some guys ran it for years.
Cool. That would only work for direct drive transmissions.
I had the privilege of my father working for Mark Martins neighbor and good friend. Back in the 90's, we would get all access pit passes, when that was still a thing. One Daytona 500, we're standing outside Marks hauler chatting. A crew member runs in, opens a cooler, and pulls out 4 shocks, we inquired why keep them on ice? The reply was, nascar tells us the required ride height, but not what temperature the shocks need to be. Always thought that was cool
"You didn't know whatcha lookin at unless you knew whatcha looking at" 😂
"Bad-ass fast!" love Tony Furr, lol.
Wait for the day Chad Knaus, can come on and tell stories. Tony Furr is true classic.
We need more innovators like this in racing today. Great stories!
there is just no one can talk about the stuff there doing 20 30 years from now we will hear about all the tricks of today
Just wait until Chad Knaus stories come out in the next 20 years.
might be a few years before hearing from Chad K.
I’ve heard a few of them, they’re mind blowing smart. One of the Ray Evernham/Jeff Gordon stories I’ve heard is so dadgum simple it’s hilarious!
And yet one of the greatest complaints people today have with the sport with any new drivers
Man I wish you could have guys like this in today's NASCAR. The racing would be so much better.
The Hendricks boys are.
If they started their own series I wonder if people would start watching again. The old races were great with the cars wiggling and sliding but staying on the track. Now they are so dialed in and precise that it snaps around and you got guys bitter with each other over a racing deal
Maybe you do but you don't know it.
i love the Dale Jr Download. I used to watch NASCAR all the time then I just stopped and haven't watched it in years, but listening to all these Dale Jr podcasts has got me back into it. Thanks Dale Forever #3
Same here bro. I grew up watching it with my dad and went to the race in New Hampshire every year. We haven't gone in years and I really wanna get back into it
NOS in NASCAR, The two have never crossed my mind. LoL
"You wouldn't know what you looking at unless you knew what you were looking at" Dale Earnhardt Jr 2023
In the mid 90s I helped a local guy race an ARCA car. At that time most of the cars had a vacuum gauge in it measuring cowl pressure. I know for a fact that a Sneaky Pete bottle was used in many qualifying laps. The driver would hide the bottle in his firesuit and when he got in he hooked the hose from it to the hose for the cowl gauge.
Nascar is missing guys like this!
oh no, they're there and they're the ones NASCAR "fans" complain about
Not really, it's full of them. And they're even smarter since it's way harder to hide it.
A damn shame Dale didn't get the chance to help Tony the next Tuesday. Much more than a shame but words won't come to describe it.
I asked Dale Sr in 90 if he hit the Nitrous at Talladega and Benne his PR man said no no no and Dale just grinned!!!!
Ain't nothing like an Earnhardt grin
That’s awesome
Would love to hear the story of winning the Pepsi 400 with Andretti That car was so crazy dominant
Yeah. What year was that, '98?
@@daviclar867 1997!
I love hearing how these teams pushed the limits. Everyone trying something and how they did it.
Tony has a wealth of knowledge and invention that nascar either loved or hated
I almost wish that they would let the guys put what ever they want on the car and let the best driver win
Great podcast! Back in 1999 - 2002 I worked as a CNC machinist, small mom & pop shop. We did mostly aerospace work, but a neighbor in our industrial park was a NASCAR racer. Long story short, on our night shifts, we would make parts for this guy, out of titanium, and T-6, T-7 aluminum, giving him a little extra 'edge' against his competition. It was always fun helping, and we never charged him anything, aside of a case or two of beer :)
I raced motocross and we had a small shop make parts for us also. I miss those days , talking thinking of new ideas how to make things better.
That's cool!
THAT was cool
By chance was it Rusty?
@@jaredgray7064 Sadly no. This was a NASCAR Super Stocker in Monroe, WA named John Bender. Great guy!
Man these stories about “innovation “ are great.
I love Tony Furr! He worked with us all through 2015 and I enjoyed my time with him more than anything, i mean he had SOOO MANY awesome stories! I could listen to him all day! Haven't seen him since though. Miss you bud!
Crazy to think they were all running nitrous. This might just be about the absolute best talk out there about cheating things up in NASCAR. Absolutely amazing all the stuff he came up with. The fuel light was really clever. I'm sure Jr was thrilled to learn all that new stuff. Very creative to just make the NOS bottle part of the cage/support bars.
Tony is a great storyteller.
Ol' Tony Furr, Hendrick's forgotten Genius. Thank you Junior, for having TF on your ultra popular podcast, because this Man was all but forgotten, but not now! 😉👍
I could listen to that guy all day long.
“I had a fuel cell inside of a fuel cell” -Tony Furr
I could listen to his stories all day long! He really paints a picture... Dang what professionalism Junebug to continue on with your timeline of the conversation of the parts and races after he mentions that lovely but difficult story on your Dad hopping in the car at Daytona - it's pretty amazing what your Dad was and then what you have become - two sides of a coin but both gems (he more on the racing side - you on the announcing + history side to be remembered by - both of you racers/ owners carrying on from what your Grandpops started back of your MeMaw's house shop ; ) 🏁 M in Miami
The more we can hear these "innovation" stories, the better! I just can't get enough!
That what racing is about. Knowing how to win. It's all about science
Cheating stories are the best they never get old
As he talks about his fuel cell, all I can think about is the Nascar Thunder 2003 scenario where you recreate Jerry Nadeau running out of fuel with the lead in Atlanta and you have to make the car reach the end and win.
You just opened up a memory I completely forgot I had!
Furr is a legend.F*cking genius.
bending and breaking the rules stories are the best. Tony has lots of good stories and a great voice for the podcast.
I love it!! I wish we could go back to this in NASCAR...so much more interesting!!
These Bending the Rules stories are always top tiered.
I could listen to this all day! Some narrated clips along with these stories would be awesome.🥃
Those times (70’-early 80’s) in NASCAR were so interesting !
I never realize how much of an innovator he was
When Nascar was a bunch of good ole boys!
From Metrolina to Daytona, these are great stories!
Cheat'n stories is one of my favorite things in racing
Putting the nitrous bottle inside the radiator tank is brilliant. You didn't have to worry about if your bottle was warm.😆
Idk how many guys are willing to come on and tell their stories like this but I’m here for it
I love these old stories. 😊
"It ain't cheatin, until they catch ya doing it."
if ya ain't cheatin ya ain't eatin
Love these stories!!
NASCAR will never have racers like these again. That was a special time.
These are the best stories. So interesting to hear all this behind the scenes talk
One of the best ones yet, he was GREAT
Priceless. Thank y'all!
That is one of the best episodes yet! I’d heard his name and it was always associated with cool teams but I had NO idea he was behind so much INNOVATION!
I'm thinking that there were plenty of other "innovators in the Nascar garages during Tony's career in Nascar cause like Darryl Waltrip has said , there has always been "creativity" in auto racing and probably always will b😊😅😮😂😊❤
These stories are awesome!! I love it! 👍🏻
I love hearing these stories
These stories are PRICELESS AND HISTORICAL because there wasn't too many people who had "INNOVATIONS " AND THE SMARTS AND TENACITY TO PULL OFF BENDING RULES AND STILL BE FOUND LEGAL AFTER THE RACE!!!!!LOL 😂😂😂😂😂Keep these awesome entertaining stories coming Dale,They're PRICELESS TREASURED BLESSINGS for fans from way back in the 50's, 60's and 70's. Those individuals were BRILLIANT 👍😁🏁🏆🏁 and irreplaceable!!!! These stories bring back so many HAPPY MEMORIES!!! THANKS DALE 💞 🤗 🙏
More of this PLEASE!
One of the best interviews
Those kinds of conversations are the best! Thanks for the video 😎👍
I’m going to have to watch this one five times.
This is one of my favorite episodes now. ❤️
Smokey Yunick said it best when he said "we didn't call it cheating, we called it gettin' competitive."
Hearing these old guys who are genius when it comes to getting around a rule just to get an edge is great listening
Why i love racing and pulling tractor/truck pulling. When you go explore the "Gray" areas of the rule book 😂
these are my favorite stories. Also, LOVE hearing about the innovation and the thoughts behind these ideas!
What great interview, Tony should be in the Hall of Fame. What a great history.
There’s no show as interesting as when you and Mike are together. Loved this content!
I was 12 when jr won his first race in texas sitting in turn 1 11 rows up. Greatest day of my racing life--finally 22 years later i get to hop in my own racecar. Listening to these old stories brings back some of the best memories of nascar in its best time
Love the stories!
Man it don’t get no better than them old dogs and there tricks i could listen to it all day love it
I love these "innovation" stories so much!
Love these episodes with Tony. Some great accounts of what really went on behind the scenes back in the day.
Thank you Jr for giving backing to nascar I am Jamie skinner the son of mike skinner my dad was a teammate with your dad at rcr we raced late model stocks together thank you for giving back to the sport with everything your doing I am a huge dale Jr fan now shoot me plug racecar solutions down in Florida
Love these stories one of the best ones when it comes to cheating!
The best stories are the innovative stories. It's what made nascar nascar.
I love the drama you create it really is engaging. Keep it up!!!
Love to hear him talk about when NASCAR was great!
Love watching these keep them coming
What a happy video! Cows are happily munching dandelions, Chicks happily exploring the grass, Pete's happy with his work and Hillary even had a smile for missing one of Pete's jokes! Great video! One and all!
These are my favorite stories. I could listen to all the old guys tell tales on how they were innovators. 😂
Great interview, love the stories about bending or gray area of the rules. The older guys had it going on.
This content is just great, the stories that go with year's past being told by the legends are truly grand.
Great story , love all these innovative professor's that spent tons of hours making new things work ...
This was one of the better episodes of late. Really enjoyed this
In it’s entirety (whole) the best conversation/interview EVER, regarding your Father/Crew/you/racing. RAW, COURAGES!!
If ya ain't cheatin, ya ain't trying.
Great stuff as usual!!
More stories like this please!
Great stories from Tony. I could only imagine the way the old boys would do the magic to win races back in the day. That's why I always watch Junior's Show . He and Mike always bring the goods !!!!!!👍
These are the best ones...
A fantastic piece
I love these old stories! They should create a category at Hall of Fame for these guy’s creative engineering
I nominate Smokey Yunick to be the entire first year's entry into the Hall in that category!
Fantastic "history lesson." Great interview Jr!
The nostalgia of that thumbnail. I miss that HMS 25 car. When Joe Nemechek was in the UAW Delphi Chevy, that's when I started getting into NASCAR
Thats nadeau not stealridesforachek
@@illiogicalphilosophy2481 I know that smart guy. I was saying that when Joe drove it, thats when I started getting into NASCAR. And Jerry was fired for underperforming anyway in 02.
I find these stories fascinating. Pulling the curtain back so we can hear how creative these guys really were and still are
Wow smart intelligent man love hearing those stories
Great show! I’ve been to a few fights where a race broke out!
That cool stuff learning about Dale Sr out side of racing! And what they did to win racing in the day! Pretty awesome! Theses are super hero of racing!
Great interview