Disappointing: Samsung Stumbles Again - Odyssey Neo G8 Review
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00:00 - Intro, Specs, Design
04:16 - Samsung Quality Control Issues?
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11:01 - Response Time Performance Comparisons
13:42 - Backlight Strobing Performance
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Disappointing - Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 Review
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With every review I tend to see another issue with Samsung's absent QC process.
Rip
I have a Samsung (not this model) and I am not buying one again. The ghosting with VRR enabled makes it almost unusable. I made sure to get an MSI as my second screen and the Samsung is now only used when I work and need 2 screens. For gaming I only use the MSI.
This is typical of Samsung, with everything they do.
Seems like a gamble but if you get a good monitor it will be the best 16:9 display on the market.
Three years later my first gen Samsung 1440p curved monitor has a big red line down the middle of it. Super annoying
Thank you Tim and Hardware Unboxed for giving us in depth technical monitor reviews. This is what we need, not a sponsored "techtuber" praising the advertised specs without doing ANY real tests of their own.
LTT, Samsung's trying to market this POS.
LTT...
Finally, an unbiased review that isn't sponsored
LTT has awesome and great content but they are a business after all and as all business they only look up to profit and not public service
@@viduani well i mean ltt didn’t do a review on it, just showcased it and gave their honest FIRST impression
@@viduani thats kinda the issue with the Short circuits, they are not reviews, as in an actual investigation into the product specs and how they actually match up but is just general impressions on a product so the testing is limited and I feel that a lot of people can mistaken it for a full review and doesn't seem to be the best option for general consumers.
@@emreken7315 but it can be mistaken for a review by a casual
@@viduani HUB is also a business....
Thanks so very much for doing both the new Neo monitor reviews! It helps me so much as I was about to buy the Neo G8 but glad I waited to see a review from you.
I bought one, two actually but here is my experience. Awesome monitor, but first unit came with three dead pixels right in the middle of the screen, the core lighting was dim and the monitor would not save my personalized brightness, black equalizer or core lighting color. Every time the monitor turned off, it would reset back to factory default settings. So I returned it to Amazon and ordered another one while it was on sale for 1200. Second unit was much better, one dead pixel in the upper right area of the monitor where the X is for your close windows button but otherwise no defects and the core lighting is bright like it should be. The monitor saves the settings after power down and I have had no other issues. Scan lines are a thing with both units but I don't find it noticeable from my viewing, seating position. Bottom line. QC as mentioned in this video is total garbage. If you buy this monitor from any vendor, amazon, best buy, frys etc you WILL be rolling the dice. That said, for 4k and 32in, there is no better display. This VA panel is MUCH better than the 27in 4k Ultragear IPS it replaced. The colors and image quality are the best on the market right now. You just need to be willing to roll the dice and accept you might need to return one or two. Cheers gents.
I've bought my G7 and G8 directly from Samsung. The G7 ended up having a couple of dead pixels like a month after warranty ended but they were nice enough to just replace it anyway. Let's see what happens with the G8 lol
It’s nice that you mentioned its better than the IPS it replaced. I’m also going to replace my LG Ultrafine 32” 4k monitor with this one and my main worry was that if colour accuracy and image quality being worse than IPS, especially when it’s hooked to my MacBook. I’m normally extremely happy with my LG display, but looking for one monitor solution to my Mac + PC+ PS5 combination. Looking forward to test it myself. Thanks mate
@@Playboyer670 and?
@@El_Deen G8 so far so good no dead pixels. Love the 32" in 4k absolutely amazing cos of it's pixel density of 138 PPI compared to the G7 32" 1440p with 92 PPI. I'm running a RTX 4090 so is running my game pretty well at maxed out settings even with DLSS off.
Why would Best Buy be rolling the dice. They take anything back so long as it’s in the return window. Plus they sell extended warranties that cover things like dead pixels etc.
Just wanted to thank you guys for your reviews. More than a year ago I bought my first 144hz monitor based on your video and it serves me perfectly with no issues to this day. I'll definitely use your reviews before upgrading to a 1440p 240hz display in years to come (:
When I had a dead pixel on my G7 (non-neo) back in 2020, I had an absolute nightmare with Samsung support where the representative said that the warranty does not cover screen issues. Yeah... I couldn't believe it either that a monitor warranty doesn't cover the screen. About 3 days of fighting on the phone got me an RMA that took 2 weeks though.
Thank you so much for this amazing detailed review. Scanlines is due to the 1000 curve I think as they have done a lot of firmware updates to the previous g7 and it did not disappear as many confirms, this issue is really troublesome more qc would have made this new product perfect, but it is impossible to combine a VA 240 monitor with a 1000r curve and to be honest nothing is wrong in making a Flat g8 neo
Best review on utube. You go for the jugular with this monitor and dont hold back which I appreciate. I was waiting for this video because i know you keep it real
I could never drop a serious amount of cash on any Samsung monitor. There is ALWAYS issues no matter what model it is it seems, which is a shame because the specs "should" blow any IPS monitor out of the water.
Honestly, replace "Samsung Monitor" with "Any monitor". The monitor market just needs to change and QD OLED can't come soon enough [Edit: or MicroLED for that matter]
What? Lmao this destroys all ips monitors out there if you had it.
Just get an oled tv
All tech has issues, I love my non neo G7.. it’s issues are insignificant in light of its overall performance.
@@Zenheizer Yeah true, there's no perfect monitor, and a lot of people will fine every monitor model to have some annoying issue to put you off. We just have to deal with some shit right now. I have an M27Q currently and it annoys me that it had a couple dead pixels, I bought a shitty $200 monitor back in 2015 and it had none, but my pricey $750 Acer and mid-range $450 Gigabyte monitors have dead pixels
I must've really lucked out with my unit. I'm extremely confident that I see no scanlines whatsoever and am definitely free from any discoloration or dead pixels. I made my purchase at my local microcenter where their warranty/return policy is fantastic so I was ready to return it if I encountered one of these issues. I'd recommend the monitor if anyone else has that kind of luxury for local return/rma, avoid buying it online. It really is a fantastic monitor if you get lucky.
The whole scanline issue is overrated anyway. There is a reason most scanline shots are taken up close (or zoomed in). And even if it was terrible, the monitor @120hz is still better than any 4k non oled in that pricerange and you get the option to use 240hz with scanlines if you desire.
Did you look closely on your monitor @ 240Hz? The scan lines is only visible to me on my G8 if I get really close to the screen... like 4-8 inches or so. Not visible at all @120Hz. Mine has 2 defects though--a pixel size dirt on the top right corner of the screen and a 2 inches scratch at the bottom left side of the bezel. Don't feel like RMA'ng just 'coz of these. Overall the screen looks fantastic! 🥺
Hi Guys how is playing games overall on this? something like warzone. And what about content consumption? I have a 27inch(asus vg27aql1a) 2k 170hz and 27inch 4k 144hz(acer xb273k). I am thinking of buying a 4090 and replacing both these with just the g8.
@@aditya7955 I had a good time with the G8, but I just exchanged it for Asus 1440p 360hz and have to say it is the better option at a better price as well.
@@353darkesthour I find 1440p to be slighlty pixelated hence 4k. how is the g8 for non gaming tasks? Like reading or where a lot of text is involved. saw some amazon review saying the display is blurry and all due to the coating
I got this monitor for 1299 and it kicks ass! Have not noticed any issues with my panel. Looks absolutely gorgeous! Future proofed and ready upgrade my GPU.
It probably has issues, but they are pretty minor to the average gamer, and easily ignored. No one else offers then benefits of these Samsung displays currently.. they are the worst “best gaming screen ever” which these reviews don’t really highlight.
Mine is perfect!
I'm thinking of getting this since I could possibly get it for 1000€ per monitor tho I would be buying 2 of them for my dual monitor setup. Also Thinking in same line as to this monitor being really good for many years to come since my current MSI Optix monitors are starting to show their age and honestly don't know how long until there will be some major issues.
1300 for this shit monitor ahahahahah
@@jckkss4715 can you afford it ?
Looking at how closely the Neo G7 and Neo G8 perform, perhaps they are essentially the same monitor, just binned for the higher refresh rate? Hence, the variance in other performance factors might just be down to whether you get lucky with the unit you get.
So complete bullshit not worth the hike in price
The G8 looks to be missing backlight strobing, making the high refresh look like dog shit.
@@Ryuuken24 I don't know anybody who actually has backlight strobing/back frame insertion enabled, so to me that's one of the top gimmick features. I've tried it multiple times with different monitors, and frame crosstalk is inevitable when the best LCD monitors have 4ms+ response times. 1 frame @ 240 Hz is ~4.2 ms, you'd need half of that *in all transitions* to avoid frame crosstalk whatsoever - this is not the case in any LCD. Only OLED displays can do proper BFI that actually improves picture quality under all circumstances. Saying that high refresh looks like shit just because it doesn't support BFI is, to say the least, absurd.
@@iagobkstar It's not something any simpleton would get with a simple explanation. You have to see it side by side to a shitty high Hz display to get why BFI with high Hz is a better solution. Most people can't afford these displays, which is why the feature isn't a gimmick, you can't afford it. I recommend the MAG274QRF-QD.
@@Ryuuken24 before insulting somebody you don't know, you need to assume they know more than you. Learn some humility. In any case, I have a 170Hz display with BFI, and I've also seen the MSI monitor you talk about in person with BFI on. BFI looks like arse and after a while with it on, it gives me a headache. PS: Have a good day.
1800R is the curve they should be using if they want a curved display. Its subtle and makes a difference and doesn't cause distortion. Otherwise, for this size monitor, flat is the other option. When you mentioned in the video the FALD backlight array was "46 x 26 grid", that would be a great ROW to have in your table @18:16 for the TV specs so viewers don't have to scan through the video to see if you mentioned it.
Really nailed this review. I especially appreciated the testing around that 2000 nits claim. 🔥
I noticed you've compared it to the larger oled lg but how about the 32GQ950 would it fair better to that, putting the curved aside if you purely want 4k and not ultrawide?
I hope we see more monitors with good local dimming. Or OLEDs. Main reason HDR is not mainstream yet is that the screens to use it are either TVs and/or stupid expensive.
I don't understand why Samsung is producing trash, 2 years in. I had the original G9, amazing monitor but the scanline issue made me return it after 1 year, going to 120Hz from 240Hz also didn't fix it.
It also defeats the purpose of buying a 240Hz monitor :(
They let you return it a year later? Lmao
@@sonnieslim5973 It has a 3 year warranty, most monitors do...
@@sonnieslim5973 It's called consumer rights, not my problem if Samsung is shipping known defective products
@@owlmostdead9492 wish this applied to my purchase of their S20 FE. No return allowed after just over a month for known defective touch layer issue.
I was thinking about buying this or NEO G7. Ended up buying MSI - Optix MPG321UR-QD and have no regrets. I need it for productivity as well as gaming, and it was the best choice. It feels to me that Mini LED and QD OLED are still a couple of years away from having truly great monitors (by which time we'll have Micro LED tech in the wild, making the choice even tougher...).
Good review as always, very thorough. I have a new Samsung G8 ( for about a week now, got it when it went on sale for $1299, I'm in USA). After, your review went and checked again to make sure I wasn't crazy but I do not have any banding. I think Samsung quality control is all over the place. I have an older 32inch 1440p G7 with no issues as well, but that was after two FW updates. I do love this Samsung G8, I would just advise people to get it from somewhere they can exchange easily if they don't like it.
Happy G7 owner, mine does have banding. It’s annoying, it’s also still the best gaming monitor I’ve ever owned and I’m happy with it. The banding only shows up under specific color Scenarios. I see it once or twice a week, I know it’s a defect and not broken or going out, it’s easy to ignore
great video, can you keep doing more ultrawide/hdr/large 4k monitor reviews since that technology is becoming cheaper and better
Wow, I honestly haven't been here for awhile and I was blown away by this outstanding review! It's so good to see Tim really hitting his stride with these monitor reviews, simply the best there is on all of YT! How this channel isn't above 1 million viewers is criminal IMHO.
Honestly. I looked for reviews on this and all of them I could find were literally just repeating the spec sheet and saying how pretty the display was. How anyone can unironically quote the '1 millisecond response time' in a review without doing any real testing is ridiculous.
Wth do you fools want
@@mj-7444 LOL for reals. LOL
Is there a best settings video for this monitor anywhere? Currently I’ve used the ICC profile from Rtings and adjusted some settings, but would like some opinions to compare settings.
A great review again and this stopped me in my tracks in buying this monitor especially at this price. Keep up the great and thorough work!
16:55 Wasn't the original theory behind Samsung's 240hz a compromise of contrast ratio in favor of better pixel response times? If the theory is true, then Samsung doesn't need to drive the 165hz Neo G7 pixels as fast and as a result get a higher contrast ratio. While the Neo g8 needs to compromise on contrast to achieve fast 240hz performance.
You guys are the only ones crazy enough to make a 30 min monitor review.
i actually love it.
It's not even crazy, it's necessary to go into the proper detail.
I personally don't care about gamma or rec2020 values but for some people it's important. I'd like to know though how the monitor performs regarding overshoot in different refresh rates. I highly appreciate this content for it's thorough scrutiny.
And not a second of it was filler (sponsor spot not withstanding)!
Not really, there is one other site that does even longer monitor reviews…
I went with the Neo G7 partly because this is only designed in white but I guess that worked out for more reasons than one, great review
Thanks for the review and the comparison to the Neo G7. I know you are not so into curved monitors but I am running a 27" monitor and I do have the feeling going up in size I would prefer a curved monitor. Maybe not an R1000 but something like R1500 of the Gigabyte M32UC. Maybe you can do a review of this monitor as well? 🙂 Or maybe you can just give me your opinion on the Gigabyte M32UC compared to the Samsung Odyssey Neo G7.
once again I thank your team for the work. please never stop. In many other sponsored reviews, such as that of Linus Tech, as always, the problems are not addressed and that cannot be surpassed in terms of dubiousness. Thank you for everything.
Yeah they can't really use the fact it's a short circuit video as an excuse either, especially when they're starting a whole new sector of their business to actually test and verify manufacturer claims.
They ain’t perfect, none are. Still excellent and bespoke in what is offered.
I love that they don't do sponsored ''reviews''.
It's killing me (well not really my 1440p 32" is perfectly functional still) waiting for a decent 32" oled monitor. 42 is just way too big for my desk and I can't wall mount because no walls (my "office" is in an unfinished basement). I just don't want to spend near $1000 to get anything less than a huge upgrade. Especially since it'll require a stronger GPU (although that's definitely coming in sept/oct).
No sense buying this kind of Monitors, even a fking C2 55 inch OLED model it's cheaper !
that already exists lol, the Alienware AW3422DW is the best OLED gaming monitor (the C2 is a TV that can be used as a monitor)
@@xXDc14Xx , TV's are not ideal as monitors. They are getting closer but they have their own issues related to this. And getting 55" would require you to sit quite a ways away which is rarely practical. Probably no closer than four feet. Besides, most people don't have space for a 55" monitor wherever their PC setup is.
Completely agree, i am waiting for a 32 Oled monitor that is NOT curved, and has a high color trueness ratio. Something like 100+%
@@joshuareveles Its "the first" offering but isnt without some weaknesses that could be ironed out by other Manufacturers. The competition is just begining.
New Information you might be interested in: On AMD cards the custom resolution option is NOT LOCKED in CRU. You might be able to set a custom resolution at around 180-200Hz to get rid/reduce scanlines.
Please reply.. I'm looking for a 27" 2k or 32" 4k for only work and Movie 🍿 purposes with best colours, brightness n Contrast. Pls suggest in budget category. Thx.
More OLED monitors please
I'm hoping you look at LG new monitors that came out recently. Like the LG GQ950 the GQ850 and the new 48inch oled. That would be great.
I would like to take the neo g7 but it has freesync and i have an nvidia grap card so will i get synchronisation ?
on reddit, 2 users are saying by switching to srgb mode, the scanlines issue is almost gone. can you verify that? also is there going to be some limitation by using the srgb mode?
The idea behind the curve is it lets you sit closer to the monitor than normal while keeping the sides within your field of view, to really appreciate the pixel density.
LOL SO NOT TRUE
You guys are my go to for any monitor review, would love for you to test something a bit cheaper like the viewsonic xg2431
Yeah I really love how honest they are in reviewing everything and not giving a pass on any problem. Expensive equipment should be hold to the highest standard and way too many channels are just shilling the shit out of the latest release.
Great review, thanks Steve! But now the real question, LG OLED 42" C2 when?
I just purchased a Odyssey Neo G8 at 240hz and I don't see any scan lines, it is perfect.
Can you tell us your monitor settings ? Maybe your settings are perfect , i'd want to give it a try
@@NoName-ve6gw At the beginning it was fine, now I can see scanlines.
@@Frank-hh4cg this just made me sway towards neo g7!!!
Why isn't this video on monitors unboxed?
I will definitely watch that LG C2 42'' review as on paper it looks like best large screen monitor option right now (despite the panel is the same as last year's C1's according to Vincent from HDTV test). Basically I'm waiting for the prices to drop a bit in my country. I was planing to buy G9 last summer, but just in time I watched real review by HUB and avoided colossal mistake.
I just can't imagine OLED not burning in when using as a PC screen. How do you plan to mitigate that? Or are you just planning to buy a new one in a couple of years?
I'd wait for QDOLED to make it's way into smaller screens before going with OLED. The Sony approach (quantum dots, moderate brightness, and a huge heatsink) seems to have basically cured short term image retention, so with any luck should also fix long term burn in as well.
I got the c2 42 and I find it to be the perfect purchase specially after watching this video. I was worried about sustained brightness but it’s not a problem even in my setup where I ha a big window right next to the panel
@@joanhernandezciriza3797 great to hear that, my room is also quite bright.
@@madcrowmaxwell QDOLED right now have some issues with monitor use because sub-pixels are spaced as a triangle so text clarity is bad. That is for all companies because Samsung is the only QDOLED panel manufacturer.
Thanks for the review. Please review next, the Acer Nitro XV342CK (XV2 Series, new model 2021)
Great video and super informative! If possible, I'd like to see an in-depth test of the ViewSonic Elite XG321UG. From all the videos I've seen, it seems to be an incredible monitor, but I'm not sure if it lives up to all the praise…
how can they still have shitty QC? they ruin their good monitors with it... they really could have changed the monitor market with their last few top end monitors and they could have be the first to introduce a new gen of monitors... wel they did but everyone hates them. besides the specs on paper the monitors are bad which surprises me cuz samsung makes the best mobile displays and they are strong in the TV market as well. when they don't change their QC issues for their next monitors i think they'll die before they could really come into the market which is a shame...
I would be fine with 200Hz to get rid off the scanlines but why is this a stupid curved monitor? Samsung, please stop producing only stupid curved monitors! We want flat versions! I hate curved and think curved is extremly stupid on a 16:9 monitor. For a good curved experience you need 21:9 or higher with 1800R. 1000R is way to aggressiv even on an ultrawide. And where are the premium feature like a KVM switch? I mean, this thing costs 1500$/€ and don't have a KVM switch? I can't believe how Samsung can make a monitor, in this pricerange, without an KVM switch.
I agree with this take. Such a shame.
nah its fine
Flat VA 32" looks bad, they had to do curve or you'll get colour shifts towards the edges. I know some people went from a flat VA 32" to an IPS 27" / 32" because of that.
@@paul2609 it's not a problem from normal viewing distance if it was you couldn't shift your head by a few cm without it being total crap and the curve would amplify that
I don't think the KVM is a large issue, I've rarely seen it used and if you spend so much money, you probably have more than one screen and enough money for an external KVM switch
Any chance of a recommended settings video to make the monitor more closely follow the recommended PQ EOTF better (using non-standard window sizes like 18% of course to get better accuracy in real content, so blacks aren't crushed and everything else not getting over-brightened for the higher range, how to straighten that S curve)? 🙂 Like should you reduce gamma to reduce the high range and up the black level to increase the shadow detail? Would be helpful.
Sorry for my lack of knowledge but can scan lines be fixed with an update or is it a RMA or deal with it?
Neo G8 is currently cheaper than the Neo G7 at $999 usd at most places right now. Can't pass the deal up and got one to pair with my 4090
Enjoy the scanlines
@@DrakonR gonna be honest I got the monitor 2 days ago. In 240hz mode scan lines on blue and orange areas is unbearable. And yes it’s noticeable in games. Idk how Samsung have the audacity to sell a defective product. It’s not even a qc issue the panel design is fucked and working as intended
Also curve is unusable and makes me sick
Purchased one of these from Micro Center a couple of days ago and it has multiple areas of dead pixels and a similar "burn mark" in another area in the top right. Hate the curve and the scan lines issue as well. Taking it straight back for a refund. First and last time I attempt to buy a Samsung monitor.
I got mine from microcenter as well and after 4 units I think I've finally have one without dead pixels and a burn mark, which is the fald zone burntout in that area, all 4 have the scanlines on certain colors though and that super disappointing. The manager did help me out the 4th go around and allowed me to check the monitor in store to make sure it was good to save me another trip back and knocked the price down to 1199 for me, so I guess that's a little win 😆
do you guys plan on testing the lg 48GQ900, 32GQ850 or 32GQ950? im in the market but I only buy if you guys recommend!
What would be the ideal brightness to calibrate this monitor to? I'm not sure whether the HDR Calibration tool you can download is 100% accurate as I've heard it's not. Using the tool properly, I got 0 nits for black up to 1030 nits peak brightness. Should I leave the peak brightness on 1030 or put it at like 1200 or 2000 or what?
That 1000R is a huge issue for many of us. I currently use a 16:9, 34" flat screen. My eye distance from the screen is just over 30". I have no problem with it at all. I would be open to purchasing a curved screen of similar dimensions but only if the Radius is opened up significantly to something like 1800R or 2300R or something in between. Just a mild curve is all it would take to get the improvement. Well Done Tim. Thank You for your efforts.
The AW3423DW would probably work for you then.
If they had a non-curved version of the Neo G7, would get it in a heart beat
Yeah, though I would also be okay with a 1800R panel curve as well, as that is so little that it will not interfere with my everyday office work but also give a slight immersion boost, when gaming firstperson viewed games.
They probably have to make it an IPS or OLED monitor at that point. Flat VA at 32" looks pretty bad because of colour-shift towards the edges, it's not a good panel type for anything above 27" or even 24".
@@paul2609 Not always the case, some VA actually have a decent enough viewing angle that you will not notice any colour shift unless viewing it off angle (Q90A TV is one of those examples)
@@danieljrgensen133 same way of thinking. I don't really mind flat or Curved Monitor, as long as the eyes are comfortable to see.
@@paul2609 You do have a point, I forgot to mention in my firmer reply. Since VA panels do have a more narrow contrast angle, you probably would sacrifice some image quality with a totally flat panel. So a little curve is beneficial in all cases...when we talk va panels for monitor use. And the issue gets more noticeable the larger the panel is. So again, Samsung please give us 1800R va panels!!
Do you have plans to test the Dell G3223D? I’m torn between this and the m27Q-X
Hi! LG C1 but 55" model is the same quick?
If only we could get a well tuned mini-LED VA monitor with this kind of performance, but no major issues to speak of...
Get oled. Fuck lcd.
Hahahaha
@@helloguy8934 still waiting on a 4K OLED monitor...
@@Skylancer727 No need. Buy the 48 inch tv.
@@helloguy8934 yeah I'm not buying a 48 inch TV for my desk that's only 50 inches. I want 2 screens thank you.
Considering your panel has a burn mark (and thus could be considered at least partially defective), I would be really interested to see if the color reproduction/accuracy improves on a panel without defects.
Late reply, I purchased one of these panels and had the same result unfortunately.... dropping from 240hz to 120hz solved the scan line issues but then whats the point? Returned my panel that same day for a refund.
Any update with scan lines & RMAing the monitor? Did they fix a lot of these issues? Edit: I returned it. I HATE the film(matte display/anti-reflective coating). I hate any film cause I like the sharpness and picture quality. That’s why I would go with TVs instead cause they don’t use those
Same issue. Burn mark in the center. Left it on overnight doing a burn in test and it didn’t fade. Sent it back and got the 42 LG instead.
I might have been lucky, but I've not encountered the scan lines on 2 units I've come across (Amazon brand new and open box best buy). First was firmware 1003.00 and the second was 1002.1 What firmware version was your unit running? I feel like I won the lottery with 2 good units
it seems on the G7, if you are on firmware 1003, the flickering issues are non existent. no sure abotu scan lines.
Highly excellent review, as usual.
Can you review the Acer Predator 4k Xb283k monitor? They are comparable to the Asus m28u
alot of the new monitors everyone complains of defects most happen during shipping and handling, any brand now they are all JUST OEM from 2 panel makers in taiwan, no matter what brand you buy the pannels only come from 2 places. then each brand just adds thier own frame and OSD software to them
Your reviews of the Neo G7/8 convinced me to go and order the C2 42” which comes on Tuesday. This is why I always come here before making a big purchase. Thank you.
enjoy dead pixels and burn in, just watch some youtube videos of guys with c2 42 6 months after purchase
@@26DeislerFCB The C2 was released in mid to late March 2022. So it has not even been out for 6 months. And if they getting burn in on those then they are doing something wrong. And name a single monitor that does not have dead pixels? As that is just the luck of the draw with every monitor.
I get it, Oled has some flaws but in my honest opinion, Burn-In isn't one of them. You just gotta use your brain how to prevent it, and because 99% of people who use an Oled TV as a desktop are on Windows anyway, it's really easy to tweak the OS to prevent Burn-In to a great extent. 1. Use a cycling background, which changes every 5-10min or so, and with atleast 4 different wallpapers. 2. Use the Autohide mousecursor, which fades out your cursor when not in use after 5-120 seconds, and instantly shows it again when you use your mouse. 3. Autohide your taskbar in the windows options after a few seconds. 4. Tweak the taskbar so it hides completly without some pixels showing 5. Set the montior to go to sleep after 30min or so of inactivity. Now you don't have any burnin. At least I don't on my LG C1 which I use alot since like 3 years
@@BMXaster Thanks for this^^^
@@BMXaster If is not often you get useful information in a KZhead comment post but that one is going to be really handy. Thank you.
Have a old medel from G7-27 240Hz and have used it for a year and can say its worth every cent I wasted on it, still waiting for 4k +200hz screen for under 1200$
You mean spent, wasted implies it wasn’t worth it lol
Given how many 4k 144Hz monitors are coming out right now, it'll be a few years yet. Enjoy your current monitor!
@@fran2911 well I was on one of first generations of 4k 144Hz screen out there and it was so old so I got mad and brake it with one punch and then next day I buy g7 xD
@@benjaminoechsli1941 I have ben ón 4k 144hz and I feel I prefer higher hz over res and most of games I play are over 200fps so I prefer somthing like high refresh rate
Hi, Tim! I have a single 4k60 monitor primarily for work (connected to a laptop), and I have been thinking about building a dedicated gaming pc, and I'd be looking at buying another monitor. I was wondering, if there are any 4k120 monitors that support daisy chaining for a single cable experience? Or is the bandwidth of HDMI 2.1/DP 1.4a not enough for that?
You can hit 4k120hz 10bit 4.4.4 on hdmi 2.1. But not 4k120 12bit 4.4.4 on hdmi 2.1
Thanks for your review. After seeing your review of the G7 I was really looking forward to this.
Thanks
Thanks for the super thanks mate, much appreciated
Scamsung at it again
I’m deciding between the lg 32q950 1,000 hdr, or the Sony m9 inzone. What’s your opinion?
What about review for INNOCN 40C1R or WR40-PRO(40" WQHD 3440 x 1440p 144hz)?
After having a KVM switch.. I wouldn't buy another monitor without one. I find it an actual feature I use a lot.
Whats that?
I don't think gamers want to increase the cost of a feature they won't use...
I use the one on my second monitor a ton as well, and even when im not using it regularly having the option when you need it suddenly is such a relief.
@@branchprediction9923 It's a switch on the back of a monitor that you can use to easily swap it to another computer's input. So you can have two HDMI's going into the same monitor from two different sources (lets say a laptop and a desktop) and you can easily switch between them. It's a god send if you work remotely and dont have the space for two set ups, or need to briefly use a monitor for something else like a friends laptop or something like that. Stand alone KVM switches are expensive for what they are but monitors that have them, atleast my gigabyte one, are only a 20-30 dollar premium.
@@watariovids1645 They only work with a single monitor though, because they don't have a display pass through and if you buy for > 1000€, you probably have more than one monitor
At this point just wait out another one to two years for a true 4k 240hz on display port 2.0, with either qd-oled or quick va/ips panel with more than 2k-2.5k zones.
That’s what most of us are waiting for, but I’m already planning on a $2,500+ price tag.
It'll be less than a year. The panel technology already exists (See the review your watching.) As soon as RDNA3 and the RTX 4000 series launch, you'll see display port 2.0 monitors.
@@stephenmartin9751 lol of course it exists, these petty mini led monitors that came out are just cash grabs, honestly don't even feel sorry for those that bought the pg32uqx, neo's or the qd-oled. Patience will pay off, and at the same time you could be laying money aside every paycheck to stack up for a really high end one to last you you a good couple of years.
i have this monitor and the one i have dont have the problems you have on yours trying to check on lines on the menu, sound and etc no lines
will you guys be reviewing the ASUS XG27AQM 240hz monitor? isit better than the xb273u GX?
I blocked Kyle when I saw his review sponsored by Samsung. All I can trust is HUB and GN
I LOVE how this is in stark contrast from Kyle's comparison of this VA to an IPS monitor, saying how much better the Samsung is because if better black level. Dude spent half a video talking about how you can see enemies in dark games/scenes on the VA panel, because of how good its dark levels are... Edit: My god, how has every single person in the replies missed the point of the comment... I'm not talking about the contrast of the monitor, at all. I'm commenting on how biased and bad of a review Kyle from BitWit did, honing on how incredible the G8 is because of its great contrast. Of course a VA is going to have better dark levels when compared to an IPS. But that is no reason to pay 1.500€ or dollars for a VA monitor...
that is correct, it is night and day for viewing anything dark. contrast is king.
Aren't HU saying in this review the blacks are good ?
Well, Kyle is one of those Techtubers that do not really review monitors, but simply do impressions on them and go through a bunch of talking points - typical influencer stuff. I still like his videos, but you gotta take them for what they are. HBU on the other hand is a serious review outlet you can actually rely on for technical information.
No, he meant there is no black crush, you're not suppose to lose detail in dark scenes in HDR. In SDR you can get black crush if you don't adjust black level equalizer. Kyle still stand correct.
Did you watch either of the videos?
Hi can you please review 42" inch TVs for monitor use such as LG C2, Sony A90K, Samsung QN90B?
I love my g7... I don't think I will change anytime soon... I might upgrade next gen gpus but will keep my g7 for second monitor 😀
Another crappy curved monitor. Because it just works. Good job Samsung. Excellent work HWU!
Someone has unrealistically high expectations of Samsung QC It just works after 3 replacement units might be more accurate Edit: QC, not QA
HUB*
hello. Very nice material. However reviewers should avoid their "presonal feelings". You should focus on facts rather than your subiective personal thoughts, which can be missleading for many. How name indicate- its very PERSOANAL and subiective. Some ppl can feel very different.
Can you put your settings for this monitor somewhere like Imgur? so anyone has this monitor can use the best gaming settings
I need to buy a new monitor, and am looking at the MSI Optix MAG274QRF, due mostly to it's very good response time and overshoot at all refresh rates (60 hertz is important to me because my 1060 has a hard time driving some games faster than that, very high refresh rates is not because I don't ever play competitive shooters) Is there another monitor in the same 500dollars or less price range you'd recommend that provides the same single overdrive experience? That isn't a Samsung. (Both my current and my previous monitor were Samsungs, both needed replacing due to dying rather than natural replacement.) Things like a good SRBG mode and overall good colors are also important. 2 more things that monitor does very well according to your reviews. Edit: Note that the 500-ish dollar price that monitor is listed for in Norway is after tax, so if it's listed as a lot less than that in the US that's why. Edit the second: The LG 27GP850-B, which I think is exactly the same as the non-B variant, is a 100 dollars cheaper in Norway. I think that's just straight up the better buy then? They perform very similarly.
Still waiting for proper flat monitor 32" 4k true HDR and with G-sync if possible
Add 165Hz> and proper sRGB clamp and no restrictions in sRGB mode. Samsung already gets close but it's missing DP 2.0 and has to rely on old 1.4 with DSC and has constant QC issues. As for G-.Sync - no thank you. Not the same old hardware module that needs active cooling and has only HDMI 2.0 ports.
@@Raivo_K dreams)
I was gutted after seeing this review after I had just pre-ordered this monitor. I literally had been waiting for two years for a monitor which ticked my boxes (A high refresh rate 4K monitor which had decent HDR, a good amount of dimming zones etc). I decided to stick with it anyway, and I honestly couldn't be happier. I've tried hard to find any faults and spot scanlines or panel defects, but I may have been one of the lucky ones cause my panel seems to have no issues, and overall, this monitor is ridiculously good when it comes to gaming. Nevertheless thank you Hardware Unboxed for the stellar review and keeping us all informed as always!
How do u even have a PC that maxes the potential of the monitor
@@thethiccdonut5257... Wait a couple more years for the next gen cpu and gpu options 😉
@@lazyreuvin I plan on upgrading from my 4K 144 to 240 once the hardware can support it haha.
@@thethiccdonut5257 I didn't want to buy a monitor now and then upgrade again in a few years so I bit the bullet and went all in now. Only problem is my 3080 just died right in time for Christmas 😂.
Great detailed review, not just PR puff based on spec sheet
I was about to click on check out 1499 CAD for this monitor! I guess I am going to hold off! What is my other option in term of 4K, 240hz and if possible 32 inches or around? Cheers!
I wish samsung would quit curving all their damn displays. A lot of their shit is good but I can't use a curved monitor.
None of their shit is good. It's just good on paper bbut in real world usage it's all trash. I fell for it and never again from samsung.
I like curved monitors :)
Flat 32 inch VA is a horror show.
@@blondegirl7240 me too :) own one and wouldnt go back to flat :D
@@bomjism Then use IPS. Problem solved.
Kyle and Linus almost came when they “reviewed” this monitor but I was waiting for this one. Had G7 for 2 days but scanlines were just awful. Returned the monitor and bought gigabyte m32q. Best monitor ever
ShortCircuit doesn't do reviews, they did a sponsored showcase, so take that for what it's worth. I mean it's correct that it looks great on the first look.
Cancelled my pre order for the G8 and went for the G7. Should still be great with 40 series GPUs and hopefully wont have any QC issues.
Any chance you guys could look at and review the Viewsonic XG271QG ? (:
I’m fine with curved at that size, but why 1000R? So much
Cause its good
Because they actually don't want many people to buy them. It's just a technology showcase for better things to come.
@@edfort5704 na 1000r is elite....plus same curve as eye
@@I.AMWallzy The human eye being curved means all objects you look at have to be curved or on a curvature is among the dumbest arguments I've ever heard. They eye can perceive flat images as well as curved images as they are. Curved displays with aggressive curves are terrible. They distort the images pure and simple. Worst offenders are 16:9 with 1000R that Samsung uses. There are displays with mild curves like the 21:9 ones with 1800R curves. Those are fine. Any curves more aggresive than 1800R are progressively worse.
@@edfort5704 ive had flat, 1800r, 1500r and 1000r. I game on a 1000r everyday now and its awesome...ive had multiple people try it and love it instantly even tho they were sure they wouldn't before using it
Another crappy curved monitor, expensive and shit, thanks info
After this review I decide to get G7 model, just i am not sure yet to get 27 inch or 32 .. I already have 27 inch monitor and i never saw in reality 32.. so idk if is upgrade or downgrade
Any chance of you lads doing doing on the AOC G4309VX? Literally can't find any user reviews haha maybe that's a bad thing...
a 1000R curve is a 1000R curve, it doesn't matter how big or wide the monitor is. it literally has the same effect in terms of distoring the view, which it actually does less so than a flat panel as long as you are within the radius of the curve.
Sure, but it's very difficult to stay in that "sweet spot" and when you aren't it's quite annoying.
A 1000R curve on a 27" is different from a 1000R curve on a 49" display. It's basic math. R means radius.
Why can’t just quit building courved displays?
They don't have to stop, just provide us with a flat alternative as well. Then everybody can choose the display according to their taste/requirements.
It's great that guys like you exist in the benchmark community. Lots of reviews don't focus that much on the defects/drawbacks and while this may not be as important on average screens, here we are speaking of a 1500$ monitor. It's supposed to be a flagship, it creates expectations and some benchmarks become misleading if they don't show the defects. It's not necessarily about being a bad product, but again you make plans around that promised performance.
I just got mine, not only do I have the scanline issue, but also I have screen flicker/tearing AND a dead pixel that I wouldnt have found if I wasnt in microsoft paint diagnosing the scanline issue.... I will be sending it back because of the dead pixel, but is there anything else in 4k 240Hz thats comparable?? Should I just live with the scanline issue? Anything coming out soon from anyone that ISNT Samsung?