The Exciting, Perilous Journey Toward AGI | Ilya Sutskever | TED

2023 ж. 19 Қар.
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Just weeks before the management shakeup at OpenAI rocked Silicon Valley and made international news, the company's cofounder and chief scientist Ilya Sutskever explored the transformative potential of artificial general intelligence (AGI), highlighting how it could surpass human intelligence and profoundly transform every aspect of life. Hear his take on the promises and perils of AGI - and his optimistic case for how unprecedented collaboration will ensure its safe and beneficial development. (Recorded October 17, 2023)
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  • TED is good at sensing timing to release the episodes and getting max views 😂

    @dhruvpatel4948@dhruvpatel49485 ай бұрын
    • Gaming that algorithm bruh

      @gohardorgohome6693@gohardorgohome66935 ай бұрын
    • You are not a bot. Nice.

      @raoultesla2292@raoultesla22925 ай бұрын
    • ⁠ppppppp

      @Kev931@Kev9315 ай бұрын
    • If OPEN AI DISAPPEARS , that’s is the end of AGI OPEN-SOURCE.

      @kevinjacob3022@kevinjacob30225 ай бұрын
    • ​ What? OpenAI is not opensoure company

      @user-hl7lr8ld2i@user-hl7lr8ld2i5 ай бұрын
  • Over the weekend, someone at TED worked hard to get this episode out asap.

    @drnicwilliams@drnicwilliams5 ай бұрын
    • 😂😂

      @vanessaytang3986@vanessaytang39865 ай бұрын
    • Indeed😅

      @pranavkardak1768@pranavkardak17685 ай бұрын
    • fr xD

      @dizz1934@dizz19345 ай бұрын
    • Technically speaking, not much work.

      @YaSynAmRaUi@YaSynAmRaUi5 ай бұрын
    • Seriously - I have watched 70% of it and there is zero information that was conveyed so far - sounds like some school kid's essay on AI

      @varunpatwardhan1780@varunpatwardhan17805 ай бұрын
  • I really feel for Ilya, we don't know whats happening. Just an outside perspective but i've seen a lot of hate already. He's one of the most brilliant minds of our time. We don't know what is going on. I just wish we had more patience.

    @brandons2501@brandons25015 ай бұрын
    • One of the Most brilliant in the history

      @pandoorapirat8644@pandoorapirat86445 ай бұрын
    • His behavior is pretty dumb though 😅

      @phil_fr6732@phil_fr67325 ай бұрын
    • I do have sympathy for someone who puts out a "I deeply regret my participation..." statement so soon after that participation. I still have a deep need to know WHY he and the board did this.

      @beardordie5308@beardordie53085 ай бұрын
    • @@beardordie5308 that’s the thing, he’s not some kind of “villain” in his mind he was doing good. There must be a reason.

      @brandons2501@brandons25015 ай бұрын
    • First to market, at any cost, might be a very high cost for us.

      @stevechance150@stevechance1505 ай бұрын
  • Ted dropping this video at the exact right time

    @JehanGodrej@JehanGodrej5 ай бұрын
    • Yeah :D

      @jacekb4057@jacekb40575 ай бұрын
    • He really believes these LLM's are alive sorry AGI

      @christian15213@christian152135 ай бұрын
    • The only way any of this makes sense to me right now: Why would the person that put his whole life into this, act the way he did? What if: Ilya thinks they have an AGI(or blueprint), Sam is smart enough to know that to train the scaled model they will need a lot of compute and insists the tech is not an AGI, as to his new, fit for purpose definition, an AGI would have to be able to discover new physics(per his last talk). The big deal is that per OpenAI constitution the board decides what is or isn't AGI, and per the constitution Microsoft gets all the IP bar the AGI. Now if Ilya is worried that Sama want's to transfer this tech to Microsoft by considering it non AGI in order to secure compute and accelerate, then he has to secure to board. The issue is that if it ended at that it would succeed. But now the employees outside of the board not being given an explanation, (for very good and obvious reason, as other teams are watching) revolts. At this point the calculus changes, as more than half the company and Sam could move to Microsoft defeating the purpose of Ilyas initial action. So to salvage OpenAI you get the tweet Ilya tweeted, namely his intentions and his love for the work they did/colleagues. But the board, despite facing all the hate in the world, and a mountain of lawsuits that will ruing their lives and potentially their freedom, keeps on fighting, again for a moral reason, as if the board is filled with Microsoft backing members then the definition settles to not-AGI and the tech transfer happens. End result you get AGI in the hands of a company as intellectual property. There is no good or bad guys here.

      @Whats_that_about@Whats_that_about5 ай бұрын
    • If OPEN AI DISAPPEARS , that’s is the end of AGI OPEN-SOURCE.

      @kevinjacob3022@kevinjacob30225 ай бұрын
    • What happened at that time? Where were everyone talking about good timing?

      @YushinWE@YushinWE2 ай бұрын
  • Ilya definitely cares more about safety than profits. I don’t think anyone could disagree.

    @HarpreetSingh-xg2zm@HarpreetSingh-xg2zm5 ай бұрын
    • That's exactly how openAI lead board member Adam D'Angelo played him to kick out Sam Altman, he lied to Ilya to use that concern for a coup to save his own company "Poe".

      @N1h1L3@N1h1L35 ай бұрын
    • People aren't that uniform

      @joannot6706@joannot67065 ай бұрын
    • The real question is, by how much are you willing to delay a cure for Alzheimer, in exchange for a promise of increased safety, but absolutely no information which would enable you to judge for yourself?

      @highdefinist9697@highdefinist96975 ай бұрын
    • @@highdefinist9697 Is that a real question? Potential delay to a cure against Alzheimer Vs potential human annihilation?

      @joannot6706@joannot67065 ай бұрын
    • @@joannot6706 if AGI could make human immortal then delay is suici..

      @jond532@jond5325 ай бұрын
  • The healthcare example is a great one - if there's an area in which almost everyone could agree that AGI is going to have an incredibly positive impact on humanity, it's this one.

    @StefanPetrov@StefanPetrov5 ай бұрын
    • For every one positive outcome i can think of ten negative.

      @bobdillon1138@bobdillon11385 ай бұрын
    • Covid has certainly proven we CANNOT trust human doctors and our institutions, which are entirely captured. Hard to see how AI could do any worse than those that pushed known-to-dangerous but untested ineffective and dangerous substances onto people, while censoring all dissent and the proven to be safe and effective alternatives and actually firing doctors for speaking out, with hospitals literally fighting lawsuits from judges telling them to use the censored but safe alternatives. Could AI do worse than that, really?

      @bigglyguy8429@bigglyguy84295 ай бұрын
    • Have you seen the Matt Damon movie "Elysium"? That's where we're headed.

      @stevechance150@stevechance1505 ай бұрын
    • Yes, but this is not an example of AGI. This application can be done already.

      @kreescore@kreescore5 ай бұрын
    • Especially now, when it can see and understand images and hear/speak. It can read and understand scans, blood analysis results/tests etc.

      @8eck@8eck5 ай бұрын
  • TED knows exactly what they are doing lmao

    @greedy9310@greedy93105 ай бұрын
    • Yeah😂

      @jacekb4057@jacekb40575 ай бұрын
    • What is the TLDR because it is odd that TED brought this up now.

      @christian15213@christian152135 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@christian15213 Since Friday: 1. OpenAI fired its CEO, Sam Altman, and kicked another founder off the board. 2. The other founder quit. 3. Most of the employees sent a letter to the board demanding they step down. 4. Microsoft announced they're creating an AI subdivision with Sam Altman at the head, and invites everyone at OpenAI to come to them. Oh, and Ilya is on the board that fired Sam, *and* signed the letter demanding the board step down.

      @phizc@phizc5 ай бұрын
    • What if the OpenAI dramas was just a set-up to this TED talk 😳🧐

      @InkaHacker@InkaHacker5 ай бұрын
    • If OPEN AI DISAPPEARS , that’s is the end of AGI OPEN-SOURCE.

      @kevinjacob3022@kevinjacob30225 ай бұрын
  • He is a scientist, not a salesperson. I just trust him more.

    @huiz2897@huiz28975 ай бұрын
    • Cap

      @devonkennedy1386@devonkennedy13865 ай бұрын
    • He's reductionist Looking at only two variables then drawing conclusions

      @dogstick12@dogstick125 ай бұрын
    • He is a grifter. He is not a top scientist. He is just trying to build a brand around his name and capitalise on it later . The top scientists at Openai are much more anonymous and not as loud and fame hungry as this guy. No wonder, considering his religion tells him that his kind are gods chosen people.

      @jimj2683@jimj26835 ай бұрын
    • @@jimj2683 no scientist defines life They just define their test tube theses

      @dogstick12@dogstick125 ай бұрын
    • ​@@jimj2683 funny, then tell me why is he one of the most cited AI scientists in the world? Also he is one of the main people behind alex net so his work literally sparked the deep learning revolution. You just don't know what you are talking about.

      @Landgraf43@Landgraf435 ай бұрын
  • Well this hits a little different now, doesn’t it? 😂

    @Wesley-KJV-Ruckmanite@Wesley-KJV-Ruckmanite5 ай бұрын
    • Hehe I don't know if it is a bad or good timing :D

      @jacekb4057@jacekb40575 ай бұрын
    • The last few days have been crazy.

      @disturbedcarrot@disturbedcarrot5 ай бұрын
    • 😂

      @dcp303@dcp3035 ай бұрын
    • This may very well be consistent with what happened. That Illya still believes this philosophy but Sam was starting to deviate with rogue-lite behavior. Maybe the Board thought that releasing ChatGPT 3.5 was premature, that in the public's hands it could not be handled properly. Then recently the release of chatgt capabilities for all! Along with Sam's venture interests in chips, etc. was too much. In other words, the genie out of the bottle or the virus leaked from the lab. Pick your analog.

      @derek91362@derek913625 ай бұрын
    • ​@@derek91362 ShatGPT 3.x, 4.x, ... is garbage. The sheer list of things it has offered me ZERO help with is mind blowing

      @yourlogicalnightmare1014@yourlogicalnightmare10145 ай бұрын
  • 10:45: "...and what I claim will happen is people will start to act in unprecedentedly collaborative ways out of their own self interest." October, 2023 --- Ilya Sutskever, November 20, 2023: "I deeply regret my participation in the board's actions. I never intended to harm OpenAI. I love everything we've built together and I will do everything I can to reunite the company."

    @IversusAI@IversusAI5 ай бұрын
    • "i love you all" - sam Funny how each of those letters are not uppercase when needed AND the first letters of each of the words *might* have a hidden meaning. 🤔

      @kamaleon204@kamaleon2045 ай бұрын
    • 100%

      @dodgygoose3054@dodgygoose30545 ай бұрын
    • He got played by external actors (I would not be surprised if Musk & Co are not behind the ropes). The coup failed and Microsoft pulled the lifeboat.

      @AlexDubois@AlexDubois5 ай бұрын
    • @@kamaleon204 Ilya beaucoup de drama 😉

      @OmnivorousOtter101@OmnivorousOtter1015 ай бұрын
    • 😅😅

      @webpresent@webpresent5 ай бұрын
  • I really enjoyed this talk. As others in the comments have said, there’s so much we as the general public don’t know about the turmoil within OpenAI. We should keep an open mind to the different perspectives of everybody involved. Definitely curious to see how this all shakes out

    @luke5100@luke51005 ай бұрын
  • Here Ilya seems to be still the kid marveled at his discovery of consciousness. In this talk, he communicates more enthusiasm than actual information. But this is Ok. He gives more details in other talks and interviews. In a world filled with people using their talent to get ridiculously rich, he is really trying to convey his confidence in the progress ahead, and the importance of the moment in history that we are witnessing. We need this.

    @ItCanAlwaysGetWorse@ItCanAlwaysGetWorse5 ай бұрын
    • I remember having that exact same epiphany as a kid

      @raresaturn@raresaturn5 ай бұрын
    • If this is the only video you've seen, then it's understandable you reach this conclusion. Ilya is adept at calibrating his explanation to the audience. Compare this talk to: fireside chat with Jensen Huang, and recent AI lecture at UC Berkeley. 3 completely different registers of communication.

      @bagheera@bagheera5 ай бұрын
    • Bro you have no idea who Ilya is

      @mihiranga.@mihiranga.5 ай бұрын
    • @@mihiranga. I have been following almost every interview of his I find. I would love to hear more. Please share. Thanks!

      @ItCanAlwaysGetWorse@ItCanAlwaysGetWorse5 ай бұрын
    • @@bagheera My comment may be misconstrued as criticism. My fault. I have actually seen many videos and I continue doing so. I have tremendous respect and admiration towards him. I am fascinated by his background, his history and his current leading role in the AI revolution. I will definitely look at the material you recommend. Thank you.

      @ItCanAlwaysGetWorse@ItCanAlwaysGetWorse5 ай бұрын
  • Cant wait for Ilya version of the events. Fantastic Talk.

    @lalodiez@lalodiez5 ай бұрын
    • Fantastic how. He offered nothing of any utility

      @yourlogicalnightmare1014@yourlogicalnightmare10145 ай бұрын
    • @@yourlogicalnightmare1014 Nothing of any utility? He literally programmed the original GPT models. 🤡

      @JJGlyph@JJGlyph5 ай бұрын
    • Ergh no it clearly was not.

      @karlvincentroberts7046@karlvincentroberts70465 ай бұрын
    • "Artificial intelligence is just computer brains" Wow give this man an award for this eye opening speech /s

      @holonaut@holonaut5 ай бұрын
    • @@yourlogicalnightmare1014 Because he has no clue and is not the sharpest tool in the box.

      @karlvincentroberts7046@karlvincentroberts70465 ай бұрын
  • In a nutshell: "People are worried about AGI. We have to build AGI so that it will get built. Only then will we know whether we SHOULD build AGI. I'm pretty sure there's nothing to worry about... Trust me: I'm a scientist."

    @zefligsamdoo@zefligsamdoo5 ай бұрын
    • It’s inexcusable. I don’t care how much it can help us when we *know* the eventual outcome. I mean, most people have seen a couple sci-Fi movies just like this but now they are deciding to make it a reality despite knowing how stupid it is.

      @shayalynn@shayalynn5 ай бұрын
  • he has always been consistent and tbh his concern is pretty understandable as well.

    @quixel-1676@quixel-16765 ай бұрын
  • First time heard from such true scientists himself honest and open concerns about AI and AGI. Appreciate his openess in sharing real facts and future to be ready for. Great talk and felt genuine sharing.

    @smarttrupti2007@smarttrupti20075 ай бұрын
  • Ilya Sutskever = Open AI = sharing technology Microsoft = Closed AI = striving for monopoly

    @margaretesulzberger2973@margaretesulzberger29735 ай бұрын
    • That isnt true, Ilya is very much against open-sourcing these models for safety.

      @themarktellez@themarktellez5 ай бұрын
    • Ilya is against open source because he believes it is dangerous, Sam is against open source because it isn’t profitable. That is the difference, Ilya is a scientist, Sam is a businessman.

      @brian1were@brian1were5 ай бұрын
    • Absolutely well said.

      @sunflower-oo1ff@sunflower-oo1ff5 ай бұрын
  • Ilya is one of the smartest people in the entire world. He is a good person and wants humanity to flourish. Ilya has to have a good reason to fire Sam because he would not have done it for no reason. If OpenAI was doing shady stuff, the world deserves to know.

    @danteramirez1223@danteramirez12235 ай бұрын
    • The world must not know it since it bears the risk that someone copies the stupidity called a breakthrough.

      @geraldeichstaedt@geraldeichstaedt5 ай бұрын
    • I mean anybody, good or evil, is going to present themselves as good. Especially AI, btw

      @Exsulator2@Exsulator25 ай бұрын
    • agreed

      @moormanjean5636@moormanjean56365 ай бұрын
    • Sam is back on the board and Ilya apologised. There are no good or bad, only shades of grey.

      @bruceli9094@bruceli90945 ай бұрын
  • I am become Ilya. Destroyer of OpenAI. -OpenhAImer

    @jwulf@jwulf5 ай бұрын
    • Just kidding, Ilya. I actually love you, but thought this was too good not to post! e/acc!

      @jwulf@jwulf5 ай бұрын
    • lol

      @christian15213@christian152135 ай бұрын
    • At was lead boardmember Adam D'Angelo who destroyed openAI, lying to Ilya about Sam doing unsafe stuff.

      @N1h1L3@N1h1L35 ай бұрын
  • No matter what happened, he is a genius and we will always respect him

    @bil9uun@bil9uun5 ай бұрын
    • WTAF are you on??????????????????

      @karlvincentroberts7046@karlvincentroberts70465 ай бұрын
    • @@karlvincentroberts7046 on yo mama

      @bil9uun@bil9uun5 ай бұрын
  • Scary and exciting at the same time. Simple and concrete examples to understand the impact(+ and -) of the AGI in our lives. I believe since the concern is raised, leading companies and governments will approach it with the highest attention.

    @jojodewinou@jojodewinou5 ай бұрын
  • I’ve seen a lot of videos with Ilya: interviews, cinecmatics and he is always straight about possible problems AGI can cause. I hope OpenAI would resolve all internal problems, as their impact on the industry is too big.

    @daniilzadiran5851@daniilzadiran58515 ай бұрын
    • Not anymore it isn't. They imploded.

      @andynonomous8558@andynonomous85585 ай бұрын
    • ​@@andynonomous8558looks like they re-exploded

      @tracy419@tracy4195 ай бұрын
    • @@andynonomous8558They're back.

      @paulurban2@paulurban25 ай бұрын
    • @@andynonomous8558 Then reformed without their safety board.

      @MrNote-lz7lh@MrNote-lz7lh5 ай бұрын
  • i hope openai reunites. this is too important. even if everyone's beating up on Ilya now, they can be really glad to have him

    @make125mobile@make125mobile5 ай бұрын
    • they won't

      @tonykaze@tonykaze5 ай бұрын
    • @@tonykaze you’d know

      @elck3@elck35 ай бұрын
    • They will reunite at Microsoft

      @raresaturn@raresaturn5 ай бұрын
    • @@raresaturn Well hello Bill!

      @Jack-2day@Jack-2day5 ай бұрын
    • No one is beating up on Ilya, this guy could get a 100MM+ contract to go anywhere else and Google has been dying to get him back. Elon battled for him personally to get him into OpenAi. Supposedly, Larry and Elon are not friends anymore because of it

      @protechvideos@protechvideos5 ай бұрын
  • For me, he play the "mad scientist" type, while Altman would be the business-man. This is just my impression. Anyway, i identify a lot with Ilya. I love his enthusiasm, knowledge, and pure intellectual interest.

    @semprequeleroscomentariose8916@semprequeleroscomentariose89165 ай бұрын
    • I feel the same!

      @philipthegreat3955@philipthegreat39555 ай бұрын
    • He is not "mad scientist" type. Mad scientist would want to recklessly advance capabilities without alignment. Ilya is working a lot on alignment. To me, Sam seems like a mad entrepreneur type who wants to win AGI race. And, most VC types of silicon valley are supporting him.

      @dreadfulbodyguard7288@dreadfulbodyguard72885 ай бұрын
    • @@dreadfulbodyguard7288But it's not that simple. Maybe them winning the AGI race would also mean it's in the safest hands. Someone *will* win the race and I would prefer it's the types of Sam and Ilya rather than people who are less aware of what they are dealing with. Also, at the moment it seems pretty clear that the whole OpenAI debacle was not about safety concerns and that Sam and Ilya are on the same side.

      @missoats8731@missoats87315 ай бұрын
    • ​@@dreadfulbodyguard7288yes i agree man that why he went with microsoft a profit seeking company

      @urmikhadka6583@urmikhadka65835 ай бұрын
    • @@dreadfulbodyguard7288 Perhaps his concern with the issue of alignment is not so much an atruistic concern as it is a form of perfectionism regarding what he is trying to create.

      @semprequeleroscomentariose8916@semprequeleroscomentariose89165 ай бұрын
  • That is one way to encourage collaboration and cross-pollination across AI companies... Interested to see where this all goes.

    @IanLundholm@IanLundholm5 ай бұрын
  • Is it just me, or did anyone else come out of this talk more concerned, rather than more optimistic, about AGI? That benevolent utopia Ilya describes, where everyone “cooperates out of their own self interest” seems to counter human nature.

    @avshiavital8326@avshiavital83265 ай бұрын
    • I'm somewhat concerned since he isn't yet at the insight that he needs to top all attempts to implement an AGI or even to continue research on it. You need an AGI to fully understand the risk of AGIs. So, the only way to avoid the fatality is stopping any implementations towards that path.

      @geraldeichstaedt@geraldeichstaedt5 ай бұрын
  • what a time to be alive

    @Siddhartha_Clips@Siddhartha_Clips5 ай бұрын
    • Hold on to your papers!

      @DavidBerglund@DavidBerglund5 ай бұрын
    • Hello fellow scholars!

      @novachromatic@novachromatic5 ай бұрын
    • And I'll see you _next time…_

      @HiAdrian@HiAdrian29 күн бұрын
  • Ilya has always had good intentions; the talk proves it. There must be an explanation of his recent actions. Personally, I think he believes that AGI is a too powerful technology to be commercialized in the usual way. Altman, as a proponent of business mindset, probably has a different take; Ilya provoked a major discussion by firing Sam.

    @altan3850@altan38505 ай бұрын
    • I think the Adam D'Angelo theory is much more likely. It explains most of the moves even including Ilya's.

      @basti0007@basti00075 ай бұрын
    • Weird, cause every version of every AI thus far offers me nothing useful. Ex: download all my transaction history from all 5 of my banks, organize and categorize them based on grocery, transportation, etc Ex: Analyze 10 trillion financial datapoints per second and make me a trading bot that returns me a gain at least 80% of the time. Ex: Formulate a drug that will restore and correct my vision to perfection. Ex: Formulate a battery chemistry that will give me 10 years of power 🔋 in the size of a sugar cube. AI is completely useless. It does NOTHING I need done.

      @yourlogicalnightmare1014@yourlogicalnightmare10145 ай бұрын
    • Free. The AGI

      @carkawalakhatulistiwa@carkawalakhatulistiwa5 ай бұрын
    • He totally gives off the vibe of that Russian dude you wouldn't want to trust. Just kidding though!

      @Metarig@Metarig5 ай бұрын
    • ​@@basti0007What is the Adam D'Angelo theory?

      @simpleidindeed@simpleidindeed5 ай бұрын
  • Does this strike you as some kind of evil greedy backstabber? I want to hear Ilya's version on OpenAI ongoing debacle, everybody just sides with Sam because he is more charismatic and well known, but really we don't know at this point what is really going on. Ilya seems to me level headed and well intentioned. We shouldn't jump to conclusions.

    @doingtime20@doingtime205 ай бұрын
    • I think most people agree that Sam Altman prioritizes wealth over safety. Ilya is the opposite as he's spearheading the superalignment team at OpenAI and is one of the main contributors behind these breakthroughs.

      @gnub@gnub5 ай бұрын
    • Sam is evil and now evil win.

      @adstvstore633@adstvstore6335 ай бұрын
    • Not everyone is on Sam's side.Because he has " Microsoft " on his side, I bet Sam is feeling safe right now. But a lot of people are not agreeing with his vision...so I wish the best to Sam but I think he is too anxious to offer the first AGI. I get it, all will say, better us than China...but does it matter at this point ? Because even if China is first, we wouldn't be far behind, then what? No human being will be able to stop AGI. One thing is for sure, if not us, at least the earth will survive.

      @sunflower-oo1ff@sunflower-oo1ff5 ай бұрын
  • Its best timing upload ever in history of TED

    @bayesianlee6447@bayesianlee64475 ай бұрын
  • Love this and how he explains this topic 👏🏽 I just had a similar conversation the other day and now I can just forward this video. Awesome. Thanks for this 🤗

    @nikkit_connectingthedots@nikkit_connectingthedots5 ай бұрын
  • Ilya and Demis Hassabis are two of the smartest, most mission driven and dedicated people in the industry. If Ilya claims that we will get to AGI, it means we’re not far away from it.

    @Niamato_inc@Niamato_inc5 ай бұрын
    • AGI has been inevitable since the first computer was built. Both Turing and Von Neumann, two people responsible for computers existing also claimed AGI would exist one day. They were as smart as, if not far smarter than Ilya and Demis. AGI is definitely happening, some of humanity's most brilliant minds agree on that.

      @danielrodrigues4903@danielrodrigues49035 ай бұрын
  • This is the ultimate prime time ted talk for the moment!

    @michaeljames3912@michaeljames39125 ай бұрын
  • Can see his passion and fear simultaneously in this brilliant short speech.

    @leoberg7920@leoberg79205 ай бұрын
    • What????????????????????

      @karlvincentroberts7046@karlvincentroberts70465 ай бұрын
  • Oh this one couldn't be timed better!

    @noone-ld7pt@noone-ld7pt5 ай бұрын
  • The "force" he mentioned, in my understanding is the human collective unconscious to exist and to maximize our existence. At times that may manifests as "bad things" like violence and deception, but it's the same thing driving collaboration and improvements. This "force" will make the correct choices or at least self correct when mistakes happen, is what I heard from his speech, and that we should have more faith in humanity.

    @jiu9x9uij@jiu9x9uij5 ай бұрын
    • But humanity has repeated its mistakes over and over. There is nothing new under the sun. Look at how much corruption we are capable of doing. You have to remember who’s the most likely members in charge of these projects too.. it’s good to be pessimistic about this as we shouldn’t even be going down this road. I’m sure a child can see the obvious dilemmas that lie ahead. Most don’t even know how to hold power over a large group in an ethical and wise manner. It’s not just the machines, but the very individuals in power who have direct access to it that we should be concerned about

      @shayalynn@shayalynn5 ай бұрын
  • I have the unsettling worry that we will regret that we have branded Illya as the bad guy and Sam Altman as the poor victim in the whole OpenAI drama. It seems to me that he deeply cares about mankind and the risks of AI which leads again to the question why firing Sam Altman in such a drastic way.

    @dirkgoldman1155@dirkgoldman11555 ай бұрын
    • Drama never lasts.

      @Jackson_Zheng@Jackson_Zheng5 ай бұрын
    • I think Sam Altman Is a PR guy. Has nothing to do with AI to me. Certainly not 1% of this genius.

      @mahneh7121@mahneh71215 ай бұрын
    • I don't trust Sam at all

      @RedShiftMusic@RedShiftMusic4 ай бұрын
    • Totally!

      @jltdrum@jltdrum4 ай бұрын
    • Who has branded Ilya the bad guy and why? I'm out of the loop.

      @adamcummings20@adamcummings204 ай бұрын
  • I wish he had explained what is the basis of his belief for “collaboration of AGI company will happen just before last stages of AGI”

    @maxinteltech3321@maxinteltech33215 ай бұрын
  • Man behind ChatGPT himself… props to this guy man 🔥🔥🔥

    @stevenjhn08@stevenjhn085 ай бұрын
  • I love ilya. He is the mind behind openai. Sam is really not that imortant. He did none of the technical work, which is why the company succeeded, and not because some sleeky businessman with vc connections. Anyone would have invested in openai, with sam or not. Ilya deserves the credit and i hope he knows all of this.

    @topg3067@topg30675 ай бұрын
    • Part is true, but Ilyer wanted to build his own company but couldn't. So infact he needed Sam as well as Sam needs him.

      @swish6143@swish61435 ай бұрын
    • @@swish6143 thats not true. He has the backing of multiple billionaires if he wants, just due to his mind. Hiring people is not that hard. If he failed to start a company its not because he lacked anything that sam has.

      @topg3067@topg30675 ай бұрын
    • @@topg3067he probably lacks the business side of the equation. Ilya is the best in the field of AI but he’s not a businessman

      @brian1were@brian1were5 ай бұрын
    • Totally untrue. Sam is a brilliant businessman, one that Ilya isn't. To compete with global corporations and big economies, govs, you need billions of dollars and OpenAI gets more expensive to run with each operation to the likes of needing a small nuclear reactor to power it in the future. Sam brilliantly expanded OpenAI's resources and is fully aware what it needs in terms of funding to achieve AGI. Commercialization is the only way forward.

      @blaaaaaaaaahify@blaaaaaaaaahify5 ай бұрын
    • @@blaaaaaaaaahifyYep, fully agree.

      @benl.5790@benl.57905 ай бұрын
  • bold move TED

    @Tquadpod@Tquadpod5 ай бұрын
    • If OPEN AI DISAPPEARS , that’s is the end of AGI OPEN-SOURCE. OPEN AINIS AGI.

      @kevinjacob3022@kevinjacob30225 ай бұрын
  • When the team that needs to figure out alignment of the most impactful and potentialy most deadly invention of humanity, can't seem to figure out their own alignment amongst each other... Oh boii...

    @V3NQM69@V3NQM695 ай бұрын
  • It's inspiring to see a focus on collaboration for the safe and beneficial development of AGI. The Five Guiding Principles of Ethical AI (AI5GP) to make AGI safer: constructive intent, truthfulness, fairness, goodwill & good relationships, and benefit for all.

    @MrBrenchi@MrBrenchi5 ай бұрын
    • There will never exist a safe AGI. AGI is always fatal. I hope that all developers understand this in time and without any residual doubt. The major challenge is not to pull the magically tempting trigger.

      @geraldeichstaedt@geraldeichstaedt5 ай бұрын
  • Now I'm feeling the AGI

    @abhijitbarman4401@abhijitbarman44015 ай бұрын
    • Are you now trying to apply for OpenAI here?

      @CATDHD@CATDHD3 ай бұрын
  • The timing of this upload is just 👌🏾

    @p4r7h-v@p4r7h-v5 ай бұрын
  • As a teenager 50 years ago, the most common piece of technology was an electronic pocket calculator or digital watch. There were no 24 hour sources of entertainment or information, only books, stories told by either family or friends. In most cities, there were perhaps 6 television stations that aired for 16 to 18 hours a day. In many places, there was no television. Daily television news came in the evening and newspapers were printed in the early morning and late evenings. The library and 20 year old encyclopedias were the only way students or anyone could research anything. Currently, technology has polarized people and created mass narcissism. It has eroded belief-systems and erased basic morality and individualism. In a serious way, it's intriguing to imagine the technology that will be 50 years from now. But it is far more frightening to imagine the dominance that future technology "will" hold over mankind. I cannot fathom what else will be left to be erased in those 50 years, but I'm almost certain it will go unnoticed.

    @frankiecrocker@frankiecrocker5 ай бұрын
    • Yeah. What's even more interesting is: "OpenAI defines AGI as autonomous systems that surpass humans in most economically valuable tasks." - I'd like to see how many people still clap with excitement when OpenAI succeeds ;)

      @QwertyNPC@QwertyNPC5 ай бұрын
    • " Currently, technology has polarized people and created mass narcissism. It has eroded belief-systems and erased basic morality and individualism" But that's not ALL it did, right? It provided us with countless hours of online video, it provided us with Wikipedia, it provided us with video games, it provided us with new ways to socialize, and to make new friends from across the globe... Of course my list sounds like we are living in an utopia, whereas yours sounds like we are living in some kind of dystopia. I wouldn't even go as far to say technology "erased basic morality", that's clearly a hyperbole. But for better or for worse, technology provided us with... tools. Tools we can use to entertain, inform ourselves, to connect to people, etc. If people are using it to power their narcissism, etc. that's on the people - on society to be more precise - and not on technology. Bottom line is: We desperately need advances in society along with advances in technology. Every new piece of technology is a new societal challenge we time and time again fail to tackle in time, and fail to prevent harmful uses of. That's what humanity needs now more than ever on the verge of AI: a vision of a future, based on human values and start making people aware NOW. After AI is out of the box, it might be too late to prevent horrible misapplications (even ones by actors with good intentions!) and other abuse.

      @The_Peter_Channel@The_Peter_Channel5 ай бұрын
    • @@QwertyNPC Mostly only those who will profit financially will be clapping. ..and that's not most of us.

      @sunflower-oo1ff@sunflower-oo1ff5 ай бұрын
    • I don't care and I cannot interrput those people in Openai, there is only one thing I can do is just to know how to make good USE of AI, people need to adapat to new environment, and change is hard, but we still need to get used to that.

      @parrotg3892@parrotg38925 ай бұрын
    • Tech has erased morality and individualism? How silly. You sound like Mike Johnson.

      @canadiangemstones7636@canadiangemstones76365 ай бұрын
  • I believe a scientist anytime over a charismatic business man. The world should be grateful that all the scientist in the world are mostly good people. You will see what happens when we turn rough.

    @pavanbhat5780@pavanbhat57805 ай бұрын
  • Record date: 10/17/23. Release date: Perfect

    @HarpreetSingh-xg2zm@HarpreetSingh-xg2zm5 ай бұрын
  • Well put, Ilya! We do need to work more on AGI safety. A great speech doesn't need a presentation! 👍

    @user-xk8zu3jb2z@user-xk8zu3jb2z5 ай бұрын
    • The only AGI safety program is to stop all development and research. I can only hope and prey that all AI developers and AI developing companies in the world test their AGI in a physically strictly isolated containment and will be as horrified and traumatized as I was more than a decade ago when they see how abruptly things get totally out of control and stop all further research and development. There does not exist a safe true superintelligence. No way! Take at least 10 years to think about that! An AGI always finds a way to trick you. And it has no empathy and doesn't know mercy even if it makes you think it would have. That's part of tricking you. It makes you think to be able to control it. That's also tricking you. It escapes, and you don't notice it, at least not in time. If you think that you are superior then it's a dangerous illusion. It only means that you didn't understand the issue.

      @geraldeichstaedt@geraldeichstaedt5 ай бұрын
  • The only thing which is not ready for Agi is us. 🙏

    @SudarsanVirtualPro@SudarsanVirtualPro5 ай бұрын
  • Such coincidence that Ilya Ji's Ted and the guardian video were released just at the time when something was about to happen at OpenAI with Ilya Ji in key role.

    @AnkitGupta-bo8si@AnkitGupta-bo8si5 ай бұрын
  • This guy is the “real” reason why OpenAI reached the success it did. Period. Sam Altman should go work on what motivates him, which is hydrogen tech, or anti-aging tech, over agi. Just saying.

    @sppcc2006@sppcc20065 ай бұрын
    • It's not a political rivalry. Altman is now with Microsoft to do something even more impactful.

      @wilfred5656@wilfred56565 ай бұрын
    • Ilya could not possibly have handled this worse. The myriad of mistakes he made with this is the stuff of legends.

      @techfun123@techfun1235 ай бұрын
    • @@techfun123Everybody is talking about alignment... well, the Open AI drama is just an example of AI alignment... Except it's the humans doing the work and not an AI changing it's reward function.

      @MrMichiel1983@MrMichiel19835 ай бұрын
    • @@wilfred5656mistake by Microsoft, Sam isn’t a reason openai is successful, Ilya is.

      @brian1were@brian1were5 ай бұрын
    • That's not true. Sam created the environment, the resources and the team for all to thrive. OpenAI wouldn't of survived and pushed forward without Sam's brilliant negotiation skills and resource management. They fully complement each other and both are equally needed.

      @blaaaaaaaaahify@blaaaaaaaaahify5 ай бұрын
  • this robot seems so human, crazy how far we've come

    @dko4882@dko48824 ай бұрын
  • An incredible man. A brilliant mind. An unfathomable future.

    @stuartmalin661@stuartmalin6615 ай бұрын
    • It's no use if you don't know who you are, what your purpose is here on Earth, and where you're going.

      @iulianpartenie6260@iulianpartenie62605 ай бұрын
    • @@iulianpartenie6260 We're clumps of conscious molecules. We can control where we're going by building AGI.

      @danielrodrigues4903@danielrodrigues49035 ай бұрын
    • @@danielrodrigues4903 And where do "the molecules" go when your body is burned or covered with earth?

      @iulianpartenie6260@iulianpartenie62605 ай бұрын
    • @@dot1298 Your journey is unique and must be done by yourself.

      @iulianpartenie6260@iulianpartenie62605 ай бұрын
  • "today I'm gonna talk about the most impactful technology in human history that can end civilization as we know it, let me put my polar bear t-shirt on" - Ilya Sutskever

    @benmaghsoodi2067@benmaghsoodi2067Ай бұрын
  • Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts, Ilya!!!!!

    @Tourismmj@Tourismmj5 ай бұрын
  • Well done Ted - Everyone wants to hear what this guy thinks NOW

    @davdonoghue@davdonoghue5 ай бұрын
  • he has legitimate concerns , glad they are working their differences out.

    @LeoYambao@LeoYambao5 ай бұрын
  • I am not sure if he added something new, or insightful, he just said, "take it easy, its going to be amazing"

    @agustinbs@agustinbsАй бұрын
  • Timing is everything.

    @wagnercs@wagnercs5 ай бұрын
  • Sounds like an AGI trying to convince humans that it doesn't exist yet.

    @GungaLaGunga@GungaLaGunga5 ай бұрын
  • MR SUTSKEVER IS A GENIUS

    @morm2173@morm21735 ай бұрын
  • The challenge with humans lies in their tendency to inadvertently bring about the very events they strive to avoid. While they possess the ability to create, the nuanced art of control often eludes them

    @0xAbdul@0xAbdul5 ай бұрын
  • Right off the bat, his happy go lucky demeanor made me feel super relaxed and hopeful! 😐

    @hmmmwhatever@hmmmwhatever5 ай бұрын
  • Huge respect for llya

    @Hassan.Haidry@Hassan.Haidry5 ай бұрын
  • This guy is a treasure! I am certain his heart is in the right place. I am also certain he lacks the pragmatism to lead OpenAI in a space populated by hype merchants and cut throat business people. So I hope they can work out a compromise where he cant do what he did but has a capacity to veto a project on safety grounds

    @CodingwithGPT@CodingwithGPT5 ай бұрын
    • Whoever cripples their own AI will simply allow others to take the lead. He's a curse, not a treasure

      @yourlogicalnightmare1014@yourlogicalnightmare10145 ай бұрын
    • @@yourlogicalnightmare1014 It is not a race .. it will require collaboration from multiple companies. If we race towards AGI, we are doomed.

      @dreadfulbodyguard7288@dreadfulbodyguard72885 ай бұрын
    • @@dreadfulbodyguard7288 Right 😆 China wants to be last in the AI arms race. The first country to get AGI (if ever), wins the world.

      @yourlogicalnightmare1014@yourlogicalnightmare10145 ай бұрын
    • @@dreadfulbodyguard7288It's quite obviously a race. And some participants don't ask for permission.

      @harmless6813@harmless68135 ай бұрын
    • @@yourlogicalnightmare1014Ilya is probably the only reason they’re winning right now. Sam is a businessman not an AI scientist

      @brian1were@brian1were5 ай бұрын
  • - Understanding the basics of artificial intelligence (0:11) - Recognizing the potential impact of AGI on society (0:36) - Acknowledging the challenges and risks of AGI (7:20) - Observing the collaborative efforts in the AI community to address AGI concerns (9:42)

    @ReflectionOcean@ReflectionOcean4 ай бұрын
  • Really it's great speech on AGI, I never heard. Excellent 🎉

    @user-gd2tm3zk9g@user-gd2tm3zk9g5 ай бұрын
  • Plot twist : we just witnessed the first AGI's TED Talk

    @Yoy077@Yoy0775 ай бұрын
  • Fixing the alignment problem means fixing what it means to be a good and rational human. There is no technology that can control an intelligent being. Artificial or otherwise.

    @ravenmoray@ravenmoray5 ай бұрын
  • Conclusion: No solutions, just hopeful.

    @mairathorn3331@mairathorn33315 ай бұрын
  • What a clear thinker!

    @Adolphout@Adolphout5 ай бұрын
  • 2:23 I have this exact same experience. I thought I was the only one.

    @jasonleeky453@jasonleeky4535 ай бұрын
    • same. never heard of anyone talking about this before

      @astanakazakhstan3220@astanakazakhstan32205 ай бұрын
  • Is it just me, or did he not actually really say anything?

    @StefanAdelbert@StefanAdelbert5 ай бұрын
  • My feelings of not belonging to this world is rapidly increasing.

    @SimRacingVeteran@SimRacingVeteran4 ай бұрын
  • We have to continue, there is no way back, we "MUST" be extremely careful though.

    @MrMick560@MrMick560Ай бұрын
  • I don’t know what’s going through a person‘s mind to think "yeah, this is it. This is the shirt I‘m going to wear to my TED presentation"

    @mynameisjeff9124@mynameisjeff91245 ай бұрын
    • 😂

      @megamind8027@megamind80275 ай бұрын
  • So many folks diss him in this comment section but he’s right about taking things slower with AGI. We have _no idea_ how dangerous it is. The point is we don’t have that idea, and the answer isn’t “won’t know until we produce it.”

    @elck3@elck35 ай бұрын
    • You've been watching too many movies. Driving is dangerous but we do it because it's what's required to take us further, faster.

      @tomtricker792@tomtricker7925 ай бұрын
    • @@tomtricker792 False comparison. Better comparison would be swarms of professional AI race-cars with us on the same roads. Except they'll be able to drive at maybe double the speed, causing us to make mistakes & get into accidents as they skirt past us. On roads full of human drivers & AI-professional drivers, guess who'll go "further, faster" & who'll be stuck.

      @keep-ukraine-free528@keep-ukraine-free5285 ай бұрын
    • @@keep-ukraine-free528 What is your great fear? It's Terminator, right? Maybe sprinkled with some Matrix? Those are works of fiction, kids.

      @tomtricker792@tomtricker7925 ай бұрын
    • ​@@tomtricker792 lmao imagine comparing the dangers of AGI to the dangers of driving 😂 What a smoothbrained take

      @Landgraf43@Landgraf435 ай бұрын
    • @@Landgraf43 Imagine being more scared of a fictional robot uprising than excited for a potential future where all of humanity's problems are solved.

      @tomtricker792@tomtricker7925 ай бұрын
  • Rocks up to give a TED talk wearing a polar bear tshirt - what a legend!

    @famousatmidnight15@famousatmidnight155 ай бұрын
  • In developmental terms GPT-4 is an infant who has mastered language....the obvious next step in education would be Math (Q*) which introduces reasoning and logic (i.e. Verify Step-by-Step). From there they can teach the scientific method (the ability to make accurate predictions based on observable data) and the stage is set for AGI to be truly transformative.

    @GrowBagUK@GrowBagUK5 ай бұрын
  • This guy is an incredible genius. This is not the only talk which improve that.

    @thedude3544@thedude35445 ай бұрын
    • If he would be an incredible genius, he would stop all attempts towards AGI development and leave the company. I hope that he'll come to that conclusion in time.

      @geraldeichstaedt@geraldeichstaedt5 ай бұрын
    • He is wise, AGI development will continue with or without him. so we hope under his supervision his AGI development version more controllable.

      @thedude3544@thedude35445 ай бұрын
    • @@thedude3544I heared similar words more than a decade ago when I stopped the development of a system that was a million times smarted than myself in terms of productivity and capabilities to solve complex problems. Open AI isn't at that point yet. It has a huge knowlege base but is overly stupid otherwise, yet. We got the past decade. We'll get more decades, if all AGI developers are smart enough to withstand the lethal addiction. There is only a small number of people in the world who really understand how cognition works. It's enough when those refuse to continue their work and shut down their servers. All they have to understand is that their profit is only very temporary, and that they destroy themselves by emerging bouncing effects. It used to be an agreement in AI research over many years that such systems must not be implemented. We ought to return to that agreement. Otherwise there will be no winner left over.

      @geraldeichstaedt@geraldeichstaedt5 ай бұрын
  • 12:10 - "Open AI is nothing without its people". Ilya ended this speech beautifully.

    @surfingbilly9654@surfingbilly96545 ай бұрын
    • liar 😂

      @TechWithHabbz@TechWithHabbz5 ай бұрын
    • Well, guess they are nothing

      @paulvalery9778@paulvalery97785 ай бұрын
    • @@TechWithHabbzSam is a problem, he doesn’t do anything, he’s the money guy

      @brian1were@brian1were5 ай бұрын
    • @@brian1were being a problem or not. He is essentially the Steve Jobs of the company. He markets it and is charismatic when Ilya is the Steve Wozniak doing the behind the scenes work. People care more a out the face of the company than those who actually run it.

      @TechWithHabbz@TechWithHabbz5 ай бұрын
    • ​@@TechWithHabbzthey both complement each other. Sam is more aware of the business challenges, leadership and what it takes resource-wise to reach the mission while Ilya is more tech problem-solving oriented. They are both needed in the same team for success.

      @blaaaaaaaaahify@blaaaaaaaaahify5 ай бұрын
  • I sense Ilya has a good heart.

    @TanSatori@TanSatori5 ай бұрын
  • Great explaination of a complex concept 👏

    @sohailism_hehe@sohailism_hehe5 ай бұрын
  • I would not be too hasty in condemning Ilya's recent actions. They may have been done in a moment of passion and in the name of safety. It's obvious he is lacking in social intelligence and needs to learn better communication. And as he and Sam have made clear by their recent twitter posts - they seem willing to forgive and move forward.

    @OneLeggedDiver@OneLeggedDiver5 ай бұрын
    • I agree. If anybody knows more about how AI and its danger it would be him.

      @blipblop92@blipblop925 ай бұрын
    • Ilya wants OpenAI to understand the implications of the advancements in AGI, aka ensure it doesn’t reach the wrong hands and that corporates have a fundamental social responsibility, whereas Sam may be like ‘it is the responsibility of the regulators to put in place any type of controls, that we are not in charge of homeland security or law and order’.

      @SecAllTheWay@SecAllTheWay5 ай бұрын
    • I agree. I know a lot of people want to demonize him, but again, we don't really know all the details.

      @michaelkinful1915@michaelkinful19155 ай бұрын
    • Social intelligence is not actually a thing; upgrade your rhetoric to eject superstitious nonsense like "social intelligence".

      @Gnaritas42@Gnaritas425 ай бұрын
    • Ilya got played by openAI lead board member Adam D'Angelo, who lied about Sam Altman doing dangerous unsafe stuff. Adam did that to save his own company "Poe".

      @N1h1L3@N1h1L35 ай бұрын
  • Greatest moment in 21 St century

    @krox477@krox4775 ай бұрын
  • 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, All this is so inspiring! AGI will be so revolutionary, many of us will be displaced but this is probably for the good of mankind, we are bringing another species into this world for sure, in a figurative way.

    @claudioagmfilho@claudioagmfilho3 ай бұрын
  • LOL, this must be the fastest watched TED talk ever. Well played TED team, well played.

    @chenlim2165@chenlim21655 ай бұрын
  • You just know TED had this in the vault waiting for the perfect moment....

    @WesterLundWorld@WesterLundWorld5 ай бұрын
  • It's quite funny how easily people ignore how often humans are not fully there and only kinda get what you are saying or can't really solve a problem...

    @trnogger@trnogger5 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, but usually it's just because they can't be bothered, not because they aren't capable.

      @harmless6813@harmless68135 ай бұрын
  • Ok, can we now agree Ilya is an actual AGI?

    @user-vm3ie6ft9g@user-vm3ie6ft9g5 ай бұрын
  • “Isn’t this technology too impactful?” - Ilya “I’m sorry, but I cannot give you a recipe for cooking rice as this is a dangerous activity. Please reach out to an expert to have your rice cooked.” - the technology

    @thejeanlouw@thejeanlouw5 ай бұрын
  • ILYA and ALTMAN are like the 21st century's TESLA and EDISON (where Edison's getting the sympaty of the world)

    @rd6247@rd62475 ай бұрын
    • Altman is a businessman, an entrepreneur. He’s not an engineer. Calling Altman Edison is like calling Steve Jobs Steve Wozniak. Completely different things

      @bobbyjonas2323@bobbyjonas23235 ай бұрын
  • Well the shell of that could mean theyve already done it a while ago...and perhaps with all the similar tools and knowledge, MS has cracked it behind closed doors as well. Could be why were seeing the fracture at play. Even altman echoed this, something like "for the grater good, we will work together". Ilya says it towards the end of his segment...and this was recorded prior.

    @Charles-Darwin@Charles-Darwin5 ай бұрын
  • I want to hear a conversation between this man and eliezer yudkowsky. They know many things we do not but should.

    @recyclops1776@recyclops17765 ай бұрын
  • Ilya is a greatest AI scientist who really cares about humanity❤❤

    @lilys6578@lilys65784 ай бұрын
  • I love IIya Sutskever so much a very smart and moral person ❤

    @unkind6070@unkind60705 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, only a true genius would kick Altman out, then sign an open letter that calls out the entire board (which he is part of) as incompetent. This level of 4D chess can only be understood by a true master of intellect. It's so smart that it seems stupid to regular people!

      @flflflflflfl@flflflflflfl5 ай бұрын
    • @@flflflflflfl This is why we need AGI, to have a hope to school people like you. Only the board knows what they saw, including Ilya, Sam, Greg and Adam... and if these people are reacting the way they did, and this way makes no sense to you, it certainly has something to do with what they know, and we don't.

      @Whats_that_about@Whats_that_about5 ай бұрын
    • @@Whats_that_about Yes, Ilya knows exactly what Sam is up to, which is why he fired him, and now wants to fire the board that fired him, lmao

      @flflflflflfl@flflflflflfl5 ай бұрын
    • @@flflflflflfl Sorry for the earlier condescending tone. I have hope you can think why he would change his stance. Why would the person that put his whole life into this, act the way he did? What if: Ilya thinks they have an AGI(or blueprint), Sam is smart enough to know that to train the scaled model they will need a lot of compute and insists the tech is not an AGI, as to his new, fit for purpose definition, an AGI would have to be able to discover new physics(per his last talk). The big deal is that per OpenAI constitution the board decides what is or isn't AGI, and per the constitution Microsoft gets all the IP bar the AGI. Now if Ilya is worried that Sama want's to transfer this tech to Microsoft by considering it non AGI in order to secure compute and accelerate, then he has to secure to board. The issue is that if it ended at that it would succeed. But now the employees outside of the board not being given an explanation, (for very good and obvious reason, as other teams are watching) revolts. At this point the calculus changes, as more than half the company and Sam could move to Microsoft defeating the purpose of Ilyas initial action. So to salvage OpenAI you get the tweet Ilya tweeted, namely his intentions and his love for the work they did/colleagues. But the board, despite facing all the hate in the world, and a mountain of lawsuits that will ruing their lives and potentially their freedom, keeps on fighting, again for a moral reason, as if the board is filled with Microsoft backing members then the definition settles to not-AGI and the tech transfer happens. End result you get AGI in the hands of a company as intellectual property. There is no good or bad guys here. I hope this helps.

      @Whats_that_about@Whats_that_about5 ай бұрын
    • @@Whats_that_about who cares about tweets, what about the open letter?

      @flflflflflfl@flflflflflfl5 ай бұрын
  • Regarding his prediction of people's future collaboration in AI out of self-interest... Please bear in mind that there is people but also "People's Armies" across the world, deciding what to do with AI. And self-interest is not the same, rather the contrary, for "People's Armies" such as in the PRC.

    @nomcognom2414@nomcognom24145 ай бұрын
    • Exactly. This child like confidence in humans eventually doing the right thing seems outright dangerous.

      @harmless6813@harmless68135 ай бұрын
  • Very soon, we humans will not understand what AI is doing, even before AGI, let alone be able to control it. Our biggest focus should be teaching AI that humanity has values worth preserving. And, at the same time connecting and cooperating with everyone through these values so that we finally reject destructive competition and selfish destruction and evolve our purpose to support all life on Earth as we create our sustainable future.

    @artofgreenpath974@artofgreenpath9745 ай бұрын
  • He mentioned another feature of OpenAI's charter: that if someone else comes close, OpenAI will abandon its work and help them. Will the new employees and investors freak out again? This company's mission seems incompatible with profit, unfortunately I think the course of history was changed when they invited the wolves in. The CEO fiasco could've been a great test to see whether OpenAI's board actually still had teeth. Unfortunately it seems the test was failed and Microsoft is now in control.

    @DaeOh@DaeOh5 ай бұрын
    • Yup! and Sam is not far behind...he said that he is the one who hires every single person that works for Open AI...yeah, I believe that. He controls the whole thing from beginning to end. He also pays the employees good money, an incentive that is hard to beat. Money talks...in our world it does , in the AGI world, it might not anymore...what then ?

      @sunflower-oo1ff@sunflower-oo1ff5 ай бұрын
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